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Furness Show 7-28: Mollywhop Tuesday, Joe Sheehan, John Lund · The Ian Furness Show

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Speaker 2: Let you can go ahead Anders if you like and
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Speaker 3: I said? This sounds good and I'll choose chill.
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, got it scared me for a second. I
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Speaker 2: thought we dropped off. Not that we're not sitting on
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Speaker 2: pins and needles for that every day. Here, all right,
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Speaker 2: here we go. Mariers lose yesterday. I'm not sure people
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Speaker 2: are keeping track seven to three the final. They lose
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Speaker 2: three of four of the Texas Rangers. Tonight they take
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Speaker 2: on the Dodgers of Los Angeles. They're not very good
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Speaker 2: at baseball, so things should go swimming ly tonight. We
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Speaker 2: will Mollywop coming up at twelve twenty today a Molliwop Tuesday,
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Speaker 2: normally on a Monday, but we'll do it today on
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Speaker 2: a Tuesday. Hey, I got a couple of things. Starms
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Speaker 2: tonight play host to WNBA's most hated player. It's not
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Speaker 2: Sophy Cunningham, but she'll be here. It's Caitlin Clark. Everyone
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Speaker 2: hates here except for some people. We're gonna geto the
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Speaker 2: dumbest thing you've heard all day. Probably we're gonna do
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Speaker 2: do with Kailand Clark, Kate mcclark, Sophia Cunningham, Fever taking
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Speaker 2: on the storm tonight, Climate played Aerreina. Of course that
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Speaker 2: comes just a couple of days after the tragedy during
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Speaker 2: the bite of Seattle. So I'm gonna say this, man,
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Speaker 2: I hope we have a great showing tonight. We probably
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Speaker 2: will because it's the fever out, it's climate plag Arena.
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Speaker 2: More we find out about what happened on Sunday, we
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Speaker 2: know now that it's probably safe to be out there,
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Speaker 2: at least it is today. It certainly wasn't on Sunday,
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Speaker 2: But I thought still go out to all those involved
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Speaker 2: in the shooting. We got a lot of broadcast news
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Speaker 2: for him and the old Check is not returning as
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Speaker 2: a member of the Krack and Hockey Network as part
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Speaker 2: of the Booth with John Foresland, J T. Brown sometimes
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Speaker 2: Ever sometimes Ian. It is his decision to step away
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Speaker 2: his travel schedule was just incredible. When I mean incredible,
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Speaker 2: I couldn't fathom doing it. And that's why he's stepping away.
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Speaker 2: He's got four grand children. His decision. We're gonna have
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Speaker 2: ed Zoe on the show tomorrow, So put your plumbs
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Speaker 2: on the table tomorrow. It's I's gonna join us Anders
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Speaker 2: and thrilled for her. Can't wait to listen to her
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Speaker 2: on the call here on KJR this fall. She said
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Speaker 2: to me today, I guess now you're a little bit
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Speaker 2: of a Husky fan. The answer is not in the least,
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Speaker 2: All right, here we go on a Tuesday edition of
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Speaker 2: the radio show. How's my level? Andrews sound great?
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Speaker 3: He's sound great?
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Speaker 2: Did did I get the level back down to where
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Speaker 2: it needs to me? Yes? You do?
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Speaker 4: I mean you sound fine, but we just don't want
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Speaker 4: to hear a ton of background music with the music.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's it is crazy loud today. Yeah, like
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Speaker 2: I mean, it is crazy. I guess it's. I didn't.
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Speaker 2: I can't keep track. I'll be honest with you of
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Speaker 2: who who is here and who's not here? It's sound.
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Speaker 2: I guess it's season ticket holders are here today, That's
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Speaker 2: what I'm hearing. So Season ticket Holder Day today out
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Speaker 2: here at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center. So we got
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Speaker 2: fans back here today. We didn't have anybody here yesterday,
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Speaker 2: it was very quiet in the background. They still play music,
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Speaker 2: they don't quite play the same level of music. They
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Speaker 2: being Mike McDonald's staff that Pete Carroll did, but it
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Speaker 2: was today was a little it's a little louder, got
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Speaker 2: people cranked up, Fans are filing in, getting ready for practice.
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Speaker 2: Kind of partly cloudy skies, a little breeze blowing in again,
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Speaker 2: so it's not bad out here today. We're expecting to
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Speaker 2: hear from Anthony and actually I'm getting text as we speak,
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Speaker 2: so just bear with me for just a moment. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: the Anthony bell should be out here in a few minutes,
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Speaker 2: but we're we're working on some timing, so stand by
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Speaker 2: for that. Andrews. Let's let's get to the news of
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Speaker 2: the day. We'll start with the baseball team. They start
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Speaker 2: a series in LA against the Dodgers, so let's go
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Speaker 2: down that road for a second. Dodgers are good, we
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Speaker 2: all know that. All joking aside. They're very good marriage
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Speaker 2: coming off losing three of four of the Rangers. Let's
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Speaker 2: set that up a little bit, Bud.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Dodgers themselves have actually, you know,
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Speaker 4: not been super hot as of late. They still are
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Speaker 4: a good team, obviously, but they're dealing with some injuries
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Speaker 4: right now, so maybe this is one of those situations
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Speaker 4: where it's a good time to get them. Obviously, they're
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Speaker 4: still probably the best team in baseball, so even an
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Speaker 4: injured and not super hot Dodgers team is still going
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Speaker 4: to be a very tough challenge for the Mariners, especially
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Speaker 4: in LA in the next three days. But the Mariners,
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Speaker 4: I think I've said this multiple times to me, it's
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Speaker 4: not about the opponent, it's about themselves. If you're playing
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Speaker 4: the baseball that we know that the Mariners can play
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Speaker 4: and have at some points during this year, I don't
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Speaker 4: think it really matters who you're playing against, and that's
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Speaker 4: gonna be the biggest thing for me moving forward. It's
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Speaker 4: an internal struggle with the Mariners. It's not about who
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Speaker 4: you can line up on the schedule and try and
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Speaker 4: make it easy, because we've seen this Mariners team struggle
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Speaker 4: against some bad teams as well. It's about how you're
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Speaker 4: playing and trusting you know your own guys to kind
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Speaker 4: of figure it out.
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Speaker 3: At this point of the year.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. I think there's and here's the thing.
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Speaker 2: This is a team that we're waiting on the Anthony
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Speaker 2: bell So this this team is Oh look I got,
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Speaker 2: hang on, I got, I got. You're not the Anthony.
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Speaker 3: Bell Ian's getting distracted, guys, that trade.
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Speaker 2: I always gotta get my eyes, gotta get the annual.
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Speaker 2: Here we go, look at this. I'll send it to you.
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Speaker 2: Let's see. Hang on, I'm not a good photographer. Thats
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Speaker 2: good enough. There you go. My man Blitz is here. Hey,
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Speaker 2: there you go, I say, my man, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Is he she?
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Speaker 5: What it?
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Speaker 2: I don't know? Anyway, Yeah, Blitz is here. Okay, yeah,
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Speaker 2: no that I think six days from the trade deadline.
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Speaker 2: You know, here's the interesting thing. Detroit's here after that, right, yeah, Detroit.
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Speaker 2: You look at and go, God, they're kind of at it.
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Speaker 2: There are only four games out of a wildcard spot.
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Speaker 2: You know what they are. They're only two games behind
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Speaker 2: Seattle for a wildcard spot. This week is so critical,
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Speaker 2: not just because of that, not just because of the
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Speaker 2: trade deadline coming up, but also because, to be honest
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Speaker 2: with you, it's it's that time of the year. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: one third of the season to go after tonight. How
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Speaker 2: many games is that? Anders? Uh?
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Speaker 3: You like about sixty? Just a little bit less than that. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's fifty four. Yeah, oh yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 4: That joke was made earlier today and I totally forgot
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Speaker 4: about it.
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Speaker 2: Ah fifty four baby, Oh god, Well we'll see. I
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Speaker 2: I don't want to count this team out. I'm not
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Speaker 2: going to count this baseball team out. Everyone's frustrated. I
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Speaker 2: get that. I I totally get that. The problem that
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Speaker 2: we have with the baseball team right now today as
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Speaker 2: we speak, is that too many of their stars are
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Speaker 2: not playing well. And that's we talked about it a
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Speaker 2: little bit yesterday in crosstalk. Softy and I had a
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Speaker 2: great conversation shockingly, I know, yeah, but we had a
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Speaker 2: great conversation in regards to that. They are if Darnold's
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Speaker 2: not good, if JSN isn't good, if Charles Cross isn't good,
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Speaker 2: if A. J. Barner isn't good, and the running game
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Speaker 2: isn't there, they're not gonna be a good football team
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Speaker 2: because their offense isn't gonna be good.
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Speaker 3: Even if you get a career year out of Tory.
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Speaker 2: Horton, or well even if yeah, which is dom Kanzon
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Speaker 2: exactly exactly, Tory Horton is Dom Kanzone. Yes, yes, I'll
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Speaker 2: give you another one. I'll throw another one at you.
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Speaker 2: The pitching staff is the Seahawks defense, absolutely yeah, But
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Speaker 2: on the days they're not great, and you're gonna have
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Speaker 2: those Hell, they had one last year against Tampa Bay.
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Speaker 2: Then is your offense good enough to carry you? Yeah? Well,
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Speaker 2: this team's offense, baseball wise, hasn't been good enough because
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Speaker 2: your star players haven't been good enough. And that's unfortunate.
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Speaker 2: This team has to find a way, has to find
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Speaker 2: a way to flip a switch. And it's unfortunate because
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Speaker 2: it's not one guy. It's probably multiple players offensively have
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Speaker 2: to flip that switch. And I just the cal Raley thing.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if we'll get into it during the
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Speaker 2: muliwapp or not. I feel as if, maybe me more
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Speaker 2: than others, I'm kind of hard on him, But there's
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Speaker 2: a reason for that. He has to be at least decent.
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Speaker 2: They decided that the catching position, the way they built
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Speaker 2: this team, is arguably one of the most important offensive players.
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Speaker 2: That doesn't happen with a lot of teams. A lot
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Speaker 2: of good teams don't have great offensive catchers. In fact,
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Speaker 2: there's not a lot of great offensive catchers in the game.
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Speaker 2: They don't even need him to be great, And honestly, Andrews,
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Speaker 2: they need him to be good. Yeah, and he's not
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Speaker 2: good right now.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the big not good Like you can you know,
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Speaker 4: make the argument, yes, he's still bringing value defensively. But
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Speaker 4: the Mariners went into this year quote unquote planning on
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Speaker 4: him being one of their best offensive players. Right, Yeah,
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Speaker 4: he was supposed to be a guy and no one
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Speaker 4: expected him to hit sixty home runs. Again, no one
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Speaker 4: expected him to be the same player that he was
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Speaker 4: last year.
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Speaker 3: Right, but you.
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Speaker 4: Still are relying on him to be one of your
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Speaker 4: bigger offensive threats in the lineup. And the fact that
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Speaker 4: he's hitting sixth right now and probably doesn't deserve to
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Speaker 4: be hitting sixth tells you exactly kind of where things
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Speaker 4: are with him. It's it's been just a shocking development.
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Speaker 4: Whether it was you know, some off the field stuff
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Speaker 4: going on in the offseason, whether it was the World
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Speaker 4: Baseball Classic that's made it go down, whether it's been
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Speaker 4: the injuries throughout this year. And maybe he still is
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Speaker 4: playing with one at this point, who knows. I don't know, Man,
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Speaker 4: that's gonna That's the biggest reason. And and the Stars
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Speaker 4: in general, but specifically, cal Rawley is the biggest reason
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Speaker 4: why the Mariners are where they're at right now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's no doubt. And you know, I mean
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Speaker 2: the Naylor contract, we knew it with in age. Well,
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Speaker 2: it hasn't aged well, but it has an age well
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Speaker 2: in year one would be the worse. Yeah, trade deadline
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Speaker 2: coming up all things. This is a softy term, but
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Speaker 2: I think it's good almost. I'm not going to say everything,
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Speaker 2: but almost everything should be on the table. If we're
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Speaker 2: being honest, almost everything should be.
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Speaker 4: On including selling, by the way, which I mean we
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Speaker 4: they shouldn't be. Let's be honest. They won't sell. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: I don't think they will either.
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Speaker 2: But I mean I'm I go ahead and clip this.
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Speaker 2: They will not be sellers, all right, They will not
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Speaker 2: be sellers next Monday, I I they If that's the case,
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Speaker 2: we'll all bring that up on that. We'll bring that
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Speaker 2: up with the Mullywoper. Yeah, because if this team is selling,
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Speaker 2: then your issues are far bigger than you thought. Yes,
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Speaker 2: I don't think they're selling, and and to their credit,
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Speaker 2: they've been aggressive of the trade deadline the last couple
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Speaker 2: of years. All Right, we'll take a break we'll come back.
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Speaker 2: We're going to Molliwop on a Tuesday. Let's do that
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Speaker 2: next nine three point three KTERFM.
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Speaker 1: It's Monday, then that means one thing. It's time to
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Speaker 2: All right, here we go Molliwop Tuesday on a Tuesday,
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Speaker 2: usually a Monday, but god, this is so good. Yesterday
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Speaker 2: we're at Seahawks headquarters by the way here at the
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Speaker 2: Virginia Mason Athletics Center. Practice coming up a little bit
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Speaker 2: later on. We'll get a little baseball in because why
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Speaker 2: wouldn't we. An amazing phenomena took place yesterday. Andrews can
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Speaker 2: relate to this, or he can he can tell you
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Speaker 2: about this. We get to the text line at two thirty,
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Speaker 2: about thirty minutes after the or the Mariner game ended,
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Speaker 2: at your checkout, we get to the I go, I
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Speaker 2: opened the text on. I hadn't looked at the text
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Speaker 2: all day, sitting out here in the sunshine. I look
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Speaker 2: down there and after what happened. The deal was sealed
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Speaker 2: thirty minutes prior losing three or four of the Rangers Andrews,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna there's a handful a number of texts. Where
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Speaker 2: were the molliwop guys today? Where Nathan and Chris. People
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Speaker 2: were pissed. They want they needed, They needed someone to vent.
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Speaker 2: They didn't need the flagship broadcast to tell them how
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Speaker 2: many hard hit balls there were yesterday that meant nothing
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Speaker 2: because they landed in a glove or foul. They needed
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Speaker 2: some reality checks. And as we said, well, it doesn't
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Speaker 2: make sense to have a Molliwap Monday on a Monday
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Speaker 2: at the exact time the baseball team is playing. Although
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Speaker 2: as it turned out, by the time one o'clock rolled around,
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Speaker 2: we have done a molliwap Monday two. Yeah it could
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Speaker 2: have been perfect. Yeah it could because by then it was,
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Speaker 2: but even Andrews it was seven to one o'clock.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're talking when the game
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Speaker 4: was really over.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, By the time our normal time rolled around,
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Speaker 2: it was already a five run deficit, and outside of
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Speaker 2: the Richie sex and Josh Naylor double later yep, to
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Speaker 2: score one meaningless run in the in the proud tradition
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Speaker 2: of Richie sexon, Yep, uh, it was over.
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Speaker 3: George Kirby was already throwing VP at that point, right, yeah,
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Speaker 3: that was.
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Speaker 2: But I'm sitting out here, guys, you'll love this, Nathan
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Speaker 2: and Chris. I'm sitting out here, and Andered I go,
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Speaker 2: how's the game going? He goes, just what he said,
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Speaker 2: he goes, well, George Kirby throwing VP. Oh, okay, good,
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Speaker 2: I guess that's not well. We'll just move on to football.
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Speaker 2: Nathan actually has the Seattle Seahawks old school Chuck Knox
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Speaker 2: hat on, which is a courtesy of Simply Seattle. You
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Speaker 2: can get those on the website. Right now, All right, boys,
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Speaker 2: we've got a lot to discuss. Enough of me, let's
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Speaker 2: get to you. After a one week absence, and there
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Speaker 2: was a lot of talk about should that absence be extended, right, Chris,
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Speaker 2: We discussed that. We discussed it, ladies and gentlemen. He's back,
14:35
Speaker 2: Nathan Bischup after last week what you saw fire away.
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Speaker 6: You know, guys, I'm increasingly less angry and more sad
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Speaker 6: as I watched this season play out thus far. I'm
14:49
Speaker 6: not really sad for myself because I'm kind of dead inside.
14:52
Speaker 6: I've talked at length about that on this show, that
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Speaker 6: this team doesn't really make me feel anything, and they
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Speaker 6: haven't really, with the exception of the playoff runt last year,
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Speaker 6: at any time this decade, because of just the way
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Speaker 6: they are and the way they conduct their business. But
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Speaker 6: there's so many people who really invest themselves into this
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Speaker 6: season and who came into these this season so excited.
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Speaker 6: I mean, there was so much expectation and hype, and
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Speaker 6: even though I didn't love the Mariners offseason, I didn't
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Speaker 6: hate it either, Unlike the last time they made the
15:19
Speaker 6: playoffs in twenty twenty two, coming into twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 6: and then you looked at the way that the division
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Speaker 6: looked to line up, and we've talked about it all
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Speaker 6: ad nausey that like this team would have to really
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Speaker 6: bomb to put themselves in threat of not making the playoffs,
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Speaker 6: and now here we are. We're one game away from
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Speaker 6: the two third mark of the season, and they've done
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Speaker 6: exactly that. That's what they've done for the first time.
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Speaker 2: I know.
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Speaker 6: I wasn't here last week, so you guys couldn't. I
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Speaker 6: couldn't really talk about it last week, but that was
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Speaker 6: probably good. I'm actually worried about them missing the playoffs
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Speaker 6: right now talking to you guys for the first time
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Speaker 6: all season, it feels like it's in play. I don't
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Speaker 6: think that I would necessarily wager money on it if
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Speaker 6: I were a betting man, But the way that this
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Speaker 6: this team has played, the way this team acts, the
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Speaker 6: way that it Chris talked about it so well on
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Speaker 6: Mile Y a couple nights ago, just they don't look
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Speaker 6: like they want to be there at any point in time.
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Speaker 6: And I know they do. I know they care. I
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Speaker 6: know they do, but it doesn't look like it when
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Speaker 6: you watch them sleepwalk through game after game after game,
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Speaker 6: and when you see I love this rotation, and the
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Speaker 6: rotation is why this team still has a chance to
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Speaker 6: make the playoffs. But when they come into the biggest
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Speaker 6: series of the season and give up runs in the
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Speaker 6: first inning. I think every single game to a mediocre
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Speaker 6: Rangers team. It's so frustrating to watch, and I'm just
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Speaker 6: stuck feeling sad. I'm sad for people like Chris who
16:43
Speaker 6: had demands to make the World Series. I'm sad for Grandma.
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Speaker 6: I'm sad for all of the people. I've been kind
16:48
Speaker 6: of interacting on social media a little bit more than
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Speaker 6: the last week, just to try to get a feel
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Speaker 6: for how people feel about this, and I have people
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Speaker 6: reaching out to me saying things like, Hey, I was
16:55
Speaker 6: born in sixty nine. I've followed this team my entire life.
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Speaker 6: I don't know if they're gonna make World Series while
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Speaker 6: I'm still alive. Like man, that makes me sad. That
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Speaker 6: really really bums me out to here. And so now
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Speaker 6: we're just we're in it in a way with this
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Speaker 6: team for the next thirty two games. We will know
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Speaker 6: by the or after the Boston Series. The next thirty
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Speaker 6: two days, thirty two games. Excuse me going into early
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Speaker 6: September whether this season has a shot, because if they
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Speaker 6: play it all the way that they've played for the
17:23
Speaker 6: last month or two over the next thirty two games,
17:26
Speaker 6: it won't be a problem. You won't have to worry
17:28
Speaker 6: about it because they'll be get ten games under five
17:30
Speaker 6: hundred and it won't matter what the September schedule is like.
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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna share, I'm gonna let Chris talk, and
17:36
Speaker 6: but I just want to share one thing really quick,
17:37
Speaker 6: because the thing that I've talked about over and over
17:39
Speaker 6: as we've been doing the show is this group of
17:42
Speaker 6: players has responded really well when they get their backup
17:44
Speaker 6: against a wall and believe it or not, looking at
17:47
Speaker 6: the stats this decade, they've never been more than five
17:50
Speaker 6: games better than they are right now through one hundred
17:52
Speaker 6: and seven games, which is where they're at right now.
17:54
Speaker 6: Four of the five seasons twenty twenty one, twenty twenty three,
17:58
Speaker 6: two thousand, excuse me, two twenty through twenty twenty three,
18:01
Speaker 6: and twenty twenty five, they finished thirty three and twenty
18:04
Speaker 6: two four times out of the last five years when
18:07
Speaker 6: they desperately needed it. After sleepwalking their way through one
18:10
Speaker 6: hundred and seven games, it is a huge ask for
18:13
Speaker 6: them to do that again. The schedule is harder. I
18:15
Speaker 6: think the team is worse than it's been any of
18:17
Speaker 6: those seasons, but they deserve a chance to see if
18:21
Speaker 6: they can do it one more time. I really hope
18:23
Speaker 6: they do. For all of the people that deserve to
18:25
Speaker 6: see a winning team here, well.
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Speaker 2: I should put out where we do this on zoom.
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Speaker 2: That's where I'm seeing the name, so people are like, well, yes,
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Speaker 2: and someday we're gonna have the technology to see this
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Speaker 2: on zoom and people will really get a good chuckle.
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Speaker 2: Although some of the names you'll have to be careful with, sir.
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Speaker 7: And then I'd have to wear a hat because I
19:05
Speaker 7: look like a seventy five year old man right now.
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Speaker 2: So, but can I use I want to use one line, Chris,
19:10
Speaker 2: to set you up if I could, because you use
19:12
Speaker 2: this on mile Y on Friday. I think it was,
19:15
Speaker 2: and we all watched that episode and thought the same thing.
19:19
Speaker 2: I'll say the same thing Nathan said, one of your
19:21
Speaker 2: better ones. It was coold you. You used a line
19:25
Speaker 2: throughout a theme. Show me it matters, Show me it matters.
19:30
Speaker 2: I'll let you go from there real quick. It's totally
19:34
Speaker 2: okay that we weren't on yesterday. I know you needed
19:36
Speaker 2: Corbin to try to make Jake Bobo a thing for
19:38
Speaker 2: the six straight years, so you know I understand that. Totally.
19:43
Speaker 2: Do not pick on my friend Corbyn. Please.
19:45
Speaker 7: I love Corbin and I love Jake Bobo, the blocking
19:48
Speaker 7: wide receiver who everybody wants to be more.
19:50
Speaker 2: Of a thing because of other reasons.
19:56
Speaker 7: It's just it's so weird because everything Nathan just said
20:00
Speaker 7: I totally agree with. And the fact here's the main
20:04
Speaker 7: takeaway I want from this. I think it would be
20:07
Speaker 7: really easy to give up on the Seattle Mariners, but
20:09
Speaker 7: for the reasons Nathan brought up, and also for the
20:12
Speaker 7: reasons of what the Seattle Mariners have been through as
20:16
Speaker 7: a franchise, don't give up, guys, don't give up on
20:20
Speaker 7: the Seattle Mariners. The Seattle Mariners may have not played
20:23
Speaker 7: well enough to earn our respect and trust, and guys,
20:27
Speaker 7: tomorrow's the two third point. Tonight, excuse me, is the
20:31
Speaker 7: two third point. We will have fifty four. I know
20:34
Speaker 7: everyone loves that number games left in the season after tonight,
20:37
Speaker 7: that is exactly one third of a season. Ian right
20:42
Speaker 7: now is just relaxing to that beautiful four fifty four,
20:48
Speaker 7: fifty four games.
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Speaker 2: It's one third of a season. You can't make that up.
20:52
Speaker 7: You can't and you can't make up how crappy this
20:56
Speaker 7: baseball team has been for the overwhelming majority of the season.
20:59
Speaker 7: It's carried by an eight game winning streak. I mean,
21:02
Speaker 7: carried by an eight game winning streak. But don't give
21:06
Speaker 7: up because it's just no fun. It's no fun, and
21:11
Speaker 7: they may not have earned the right for us to
21:14
Speaker 7: have our attention and respect. But I've just been through
21:18
Speaker 7: it too much. I've been through too much in my
21:20
Speaker 7: life to say, Eh, it's just one of those years. Eh,
21:24
Speaker 7: they should sell Eh, They're just not gonna get to
21:27
Speaker 7: where they need to get to. I can't do that.
21:29
Speaker 7: I can't do that, and I won't do that, probably
21:31
Speaker 7: will never do that again. If the Mariners were eleven
21:35
Speaker 7: and ninety seven at this point, I would still say,
21:38
Speaker 7: maybe you got to go pick up some relievers to
21:39
Speaker 7: make this thing better. Like I can't give up. And
21:42
Speaker 7: I'm just asking fans, despite the fact that they don't
21:47
Speaker 7: seem to care as much as they should, to care
21:50
Speaker 7: about this, because it's just no fun when you don't.
21:55
Speaker 2: I it's not agreativing, he said, I because I goes
21:58
Speaker 2: back to what Nate sid a minute ago. It's this
22:02
Speaker 2: team has shown under the with the core group of
22:06
Speaker 2: guys they have. I don't want to say under the
22:08
Speaker 2: leadership they have. I would just say that with the
22:09
Speaker 2: core group of guys that they have, they have shown
22:13
Speaker 2: the ability to at this time of the year, hit
22:16
Speaker 2: a switch. And in the second segment today we'll talk
22:19
Speaker 2: about trade deadline. We'll get to that in a second.
22:22
Speaker 2: Let's get to something else though, because I'm trying to
22:26
Speaker 2: figure out we all, in the heart of our hearts,
22:28
Speaker 2: are hoping they do turn it around. God, what would
22:32
Speaker 2: a series one of the Dodgers do for you? Now?
22:35
Speaker 2: I would think a lot. But we've had two instances
22:39
Speaker 2: lately in terms of possible momentum shifts, and it's meant nothing.
22:46
Speaker 2: Cal Rawley's Grand Slam and since that time he is
22:50
Speaker 2: I believe it's four for forty one dom Can Zone.
22:55
Speaker 2: You want to talk about a boutting practice pitch. That's
22:58
Speaker 2: what he saw the other night, and good for Dom.
23:01
Speaker 2: Where would this team be without dom Can Zone right now?
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Speaker 6: Like, where would they be?
23:08
Speaker 2: I I know that was that was for you specifically, sir,
23:12
Speaker 2: But honestly, we've had those two opportunities and both times
23:14
Speaker 2: they come out and you know, laid eggs afterwards. So
23:17
Speaker 2: let's talk about a couple of guys, specifically Chris. I'll
23:19
Speaker 2: start with you. We brought this up yesterday. Uh, the
23:24
Speaker 2: esteemed baseball analyst Dave Maler Uh brought this up. We
23:29
Speaker 2: were talking in cross talk and I but it's and
23:31
Speaker 2: we've brought this up before too. As I say here
23:34
Speaker 2: at Seahawk training camp at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center,
23:37
Speaker 2: the if the Seahawks offense had this season, if Sam
23:43
Speaker 2: Donald throws twenty interceptions, JSN has full five hundred yards
23:49
Speaker 2: receiving and your lead running or oh listen, and Charles
23:54
Speaker 2: Cross gives up at least a sack every game, are
23:58
Speaker 2: you going to be any good? The answers, No, You're
24:01
Speaker 2: gonna be awful in the case of the Mariners, cal
24:05
Speaker 2: awful Julio. Isn't Julio's ops outside of the top fifty
24:11
Speaker 2: in baseball? It is, I believe, like, is he really
24:15
Speaker 2: not a top fifty offensive player? And I mean, Randy's
24:20
Speaker 2: been okay, but Naylor has not. He's the king of
24:24
Speaker 2: meaningless hits. So, guys, let me start with you, Chris.
24:27
Speaker 2: How can it turn around with those guys two thirds
24:29
Speaker 2: of the way through the season all having those types
24:31
Speaker 2: of years? It can't.
24:34
Speaker 7: It just flat out can't. As good as Dom Canzone
24:37
Speaker 7: has been. And by the way, well I'll talk about
24:39
Speaker 7: a little bit of the Canzone thing later. They as
24:44
Speaker 7: good as Knzone has been, as good as Cole Young
24:46
Speaker 7: as looked. I thought Colt Emerson actually had his best
24:49
Speaker 7: series in a long time. That was really encouraging to see.
24:54
Speaker 7: You need your big boppers to bob if they have
24:56
Speaker 7: no shot. Just the same thing for the starting pitching,
25:00
Speaker 7: Like if you're starting pitching gives up runs in the
25:02
Speaker 7: early innings that often you're putting yourself in such a
25:06
Speaker 7: detriment there. It's the same thing for these big hitters.
25:08
Speaker 7: You have to have these guys hit. It's the most
25:11
Speaker 7: obvious point is obvious thing. And you know, it's the
25:14
Speaker 7: one thing that you got to give Dan Wilson a
25:16
Speaker 7: little bit of a break on, is that, Hey, it's
25:19
Speaker 7: not Dan Wilson's fault that Josh Naylor grounds into a
25:21
Speaker 7: double play like every single time there seems to be
25:24
Speaker 7: a big moment. It's not his fault that Julio Rodriguez
25:28
Speaker 7: has now pretty much established himself as a bad first
25:31
Speaker 7: half player. Now bad is too strong a word, but
25:34
Speaker 7: disappointing first half player. It's not his fault that Cal
25:37
Speaker 7: Rawly has gone from being the deserving MVP to one
25:42
Speaker 7: of the worst hitters in baseball. Like, that's not on Dan.
25:46
Speaker 7: There's other things. There are other things, for sure, But
25:50
Speaker 7: these guys have to get going. And it's you know,
25:54
Speaker 7: what's the phrase, the Billies and Joe's and x'es and o's.
25:56
Speaker 7: Billy and Joe got to start hitting the baseball over
25:59
Speaker 7: the fence. And if they don't do that, they have
26:02
Speaker 7: no shot. Forget about doing something that they've never done before.
26:06
Speaker 7: They're gonna do something that they do an awful lot,
26:08
Speaker 7: which is watch October baseball from home. If those guys
26:11
Speaker 7: don't get going really really quick.
26:15
Speaker 6: Nathan I think we can talk about this, we can
26:20
Speaker 6: go down the line and go player by a player
26:22
Speaker 6: here and talk about how much we think that it's
26:25
Speaker 6: unrealistic that to for see what they've done this year coming.
26:29
Speaker 6: I think the big one is cal I mean, the
26:31
Speaker 6: drop off was going to come coming into this season.
26:33
Speaker 6: There's no way he was going to be what he
26:35
Speaker 6: was last year. To Chris's point, seeing him become one
26:38
Speaker 6: of the worst offensive players in baseball is just not
26:41
Speaker 6: something that you would ever think is going to happen.
26:43
Speaker 6: It's just completely unrealistic. The other guys, I mean, Julio
26:46
Speaker 6: honestly is like, this is just kind of who he
26:48
Speaker 6: is until the last two months of the season, and
26:50
Speaker 6: then he goes super cyan and his hair catch is
26:53
Speaker 6: on fire and he's like one of the best players
26:55
Speaker 6: in baseball for the last two months. Whether that happens
26:57
Speaker 6: this year or not is to we don't know yet.
26:59
Speaker 6: But this is in line with the way that he
27:01
Speaker 6: has been over the course of his career, other than
27:03
Speaker 6: his rookiear and Josh Taylor. I mean, here's the thing, guys,
27:06
Speaker 6: here's what I keep coming back to. I don't disagree
27:08
Speaker 6: with what you're talking about, but Here's what I was
27:10
Speaker 6: thinking about coming into the season, that there is absolutely
27:13
Speaker 6: no way that this group of position players as a
27:17
Speaker 6: whole is going to be as good in twenty twenty
27:20
Speaker 6: six as they were in twenty twenty five. Julio was fantastic,
27:23
Speaker 6: cal was the MVP. Josh Naylor played out of his
27:26
Speaker 6: you know what in mind while he was in Seattle
27:29
Speaker 6: down the stretch last year. There was no way in
27:32
Speaker 6: the world they were ever going to be that good,
27:34
Speaker 6: and the Mariners absolutely knew it, and they still didn't
27:38
Speaker 6: actively go out and get the guys that they need.
27:40
Speaker 6: Does that excuse the poor performance? No, it does not.
27:44
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that the front office is at
27:46
Speaker 6: fault for these guys not performing this year, but it
27:49
Speaker 6: is frustrating that I a just a very mediocre white
27:53
Speaker 6: guy sitting on a couch yelling into a microphone once
27:56
Speaker 6: every Monday, can see that kind of thing coming, which
27:59
Speaker 6: means the team and see it coming, and they're still
28:01
Speaker 6: not taking the steps to try to build in the
28:04
Speaker 6: kind of you know, support group, a kind of a
28:08
Speaker 6: lineup that can withstand some of these things at least,
28:11
Speaker 6: like you can't have these guys all underperforming and still
28:14
Speaker 6: be a great offense, but you could have these guys
28:17
Speaker 6: underperforming and get by, which is all you need this
28:19
Speaker 6: offense to do, given that the rotation has been exceptionally
28:23
Speaker 6: healthy this year, and it's just really frustrating. I'm not
28:26
Speaker 6: excusing the players. I'm definitely not excusing Dan, although I
28:29
Speaker 6: don't think it's his fault that these guys are underperforming.
28:32
Speaker 6: Those guys specifically, but it's just frustrating to feel like
28:35
Speaker 6: you can see that kind of stuff coming to a
28:36
Speaker 6: certain extent and not see any steps towards trying to
28:39
Speaker 6: hedge against it. It's really really hard to watch.
28:42
Speaker 2: Chris. Before I wrap up this segment, you want to
28:43
Speaker 2: touch in on doom Kenzone a little bit more.
28:46
Speaker 7: Just the sigh of relief was something that was actually
28:50
Speaker 7: more disappointing to me than inspiring, to be honest with you, Like,
28:54
Speaker 7: this team looks like it is just not having any
28:57
Speaker 7: fun whatsoever. And I understand there are fun police out
29:00
Speaker 7: there who don't want to see the Mariners have fun.
29:02
Speaker 7: They want baseball was played a certain way. They want
29:04
Speaker 7: the great and the enthusiasm. That's not what this team
29:07
Speaker 7: is supposed to be. I watched this team look like
29:10
Speaker 7: one of the most fun units in baseball for a
29:13
Speaker 7: very long time. Now, some of that's a Joheneo Suarez,
29:16
Speaker 7: but Josh Naylor was having a ton of fun. Cal
29:18
Speaker 7: was having fun. Julio is always having fun, is the
29:21
Speaker 7: one exception for this. But it was disappointing to me
29:24
Speaker 7: to see that it was a sigh of relief instead
29:28
Speaker 7: of a moment of celebration. And that's kind of what
29:30
Speaker 7: I knew they might be screwed, because if that's the
29:33
Speaker 7: feeling that they have right now, is that they are
29:35
Speaker 7: playing not to lose, that's a bad way to play baseball.
29:39
Speaker 7: That's a bad way to play sports. That's a bad
29:41
Speaker 7: way to live life, is to play not to lose.
29:44
Speaker 7: They look more relieved to not lose than happy to win,
29:48
Speaker 7: and that's extremely disappointing to me.
29:51
Speaker 2: We wrap up the same with this, I'm gonna throw
29:53
Speaker 2: a softy at both of you guys. You can only
29:55
Speaker 2: have one. Who are you more concerned about? Josh Naylor
29:59
Speaker 2: cal Raley risk.
30:01
Speaker 7: Josh Naylor because at least I'm getting some defensive value
30:04
Speaker 7: from cal Ralely like, at least he's still a really
30:07
Speaker 7: good defensive player. And here's the other thing, it can't
30:10
Speaker 7: get worse, I promise you guys, and if it does,
30:14
Speaker 7: my goodness gracious. But Josh Naylor doesn't provide any defensive value.
30:18
Speaker 7: He doesn't provide any hitting value. And these cute little
30:20
Speaker 7: stolen bases just don't help all that much, Like they
30:23
Speaker 7: just don't give you the same type of value of
30:26
Speaker 7: being a first baseman who has an OPS below seven hundred.
30:30
Speaker 7: I've seen teams win with catchers with bad offensive numbers
30:34
Speaker 7: who play good defense. It's really hard to win when
30:36
Speaker 7: your first baseman is a well below average hitter.
30:40
Speaker 6: I completely agree. And I've been talking to people for
30:42
Speaker 6: the last since I got back from vacation who are
30:46
Speaker 6: talking about how there was this universally praise signing to
30:49
Speaker 6: sign Josh Naylor. And to an extent, that's true. Because
30:52
Speaker 6: the Marin has had no other option at first base,
30:53
Speaker 6: it basically had to resign him. But I just want
30:56
Speaker 6: to recall this guy being the guy that they gave
30:59
Speaker 6: a five contract to after all of the free agents
31:02
Speaker 6: that they've avoided like the Plague for the rest of
31:04
Speaker 6: this decade, and this is the guy that they locked into.
31:07
Speaker 6: And that's not disparaging Josh Naylor, but You're talking about
31:10
Speaker 6: a guy who's at best a tenth best first basement
31:14
Speaker 6: or so in Major League Baseball, and you're signing him
31:17
Speaker 6: for his thirties with a body type that's probably not
31:19
Speaker 6: gonna age. Well, it's just it's really concerning, man like,
31:22
Speaker 6: it's it's if this is year one and this is
31:24
Speaker 6: the start of the decline, Oh boy, it's gonna get bad.
31:27
Speaker 6: They need a bounce back from him so badly because
31:30
Speaker 6: if he's not hitting twenty five plus home runs in
31:32
Speaker 6: wrc plusing one twenty five, it is, it's such a
31:35
Speaker 6: black hole.
31:36
Speaker 2: It's really bad. All right, let's do this. We'll take
31:39
Speaker 2: a break, we'll come back and trade deadline. By the
31:42
Speaker 2: time we recommence and reconvene, we'll be looking at the
31:46
Speaker 2: trade deadline a week from yesterday next Monday. Correct, am
31:49
Speaker 2: I right on that as my calendar correct in that regard.
31:52
Speaker 2: Let's do we will do that coming up next Moy
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Speaker 2: All right, Holly want Monday continues Ian Nathan Chris Andrews
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Speaker 2: is here as well. We are six days away from
32:19
Speaker 2: the trade deadline. They may make a move with a picture.
32:25
Speaker 2: A lot of names been mentioned, Castillo, Hancock, maybe even Kirby.
32:29
Speaker 2: Who knows. If you could trade half a pitcher, you
32:32
Speaker 2: would trade Roade Brian Wu because Roade Brian Wu is awful,
32:38
Speaker 2: so you would do that as well. But we're not
32:41
Speaker 2: doing that. Let's let's go through it, Chris, trade deadline. Well,
32:46
Speaker 2: if are we still thinking that it kind of depends
32:49
Speaker 2: on the next six games.
32:54
Speaker 8: I don't think so.
32:55
Speaker 7: I mean kind of. You know, if you just completely
32:59
Speaker 7: st and like get swept by the Dodgers and then
33:03
Speaker 7: have a bad series after that, then maybe you're considering
33:07
Speaker 7: like not going after something.
33:09
Speaker 2: Now.
33:09
Speaker 7: If you somehow take five of six out of here,
33:11
Speaker 7: maybe it also changes your perspective a little bit. But
33:14
Speaker 7: I think you're still in the position where it's like,
33:18
Speaker 7: you know what your weaknesses are, and there's plenty of
33:21
Speaker 7: them that you have to get a reliever, you have
33:23
Speaker 7: to get a right handed bat, and you're probably looking
33:28
Speaker 7: at some depth pieces as well, because this bench has
33:32
Speaker 7: just not been very good, But I don't think so,
33:35
Speaker 7: because you're gonna be It's almost impossible to fall out
33:37
Speaker 7: of this thing. And that's not a compliment to the Mariners.
33:40
Speaker 7: It is an indictment of the American League, Like it
33:42
Speaker 7: is just such a crappy, crappy league that you're going
33:47
Speaker 7: to be in this even if things continue to unravel here,
33:52
Speaker 7: you're still gonna have enough string that you feel like
33:54
Speaker 7: you can tie it together over those final two months.
33:57
Speaker 7: But yeah, I think that they're going to be. Here's
34:00
Speaker 7: the one thing I will give credit to the Mariners
34:02
Speaker 7: form we can no longer say they don't go get
34:05
Speaker 7: the guy at the deadline like we have seen over
34:07
Speaker 7: the last couple of years, that they will go get
34:09
Speaker 7: that guy. What they do in the off season I
34:13
Speaker 7: think is very much worth criticizing. But what they have
34:16
Speaker 7: done over these last couple of deadlines, they've earned a
34:19
Speaker 7: little bit of the benefit of the doubt. Having said that,
34:21
Speaker 7: if they don't do something, I will still hoot and holler.
34:24
Speaker 7: I will still scream about not making this team better
34:28
Speaker 7: because it's just not acceptable. They still have everything in
34:31
Speaker 7: front of them in spite of how they played. But Yeah,
34:35
Speaker 7: I think that those six days are important because of
34:39
Speaker 7: how close everything is. But I don't think even if
34:42
Speaker 7: things go poorly. In fact, if things go poorly, it
34:44
Speaker 7: should motivate them more to make this team better.
34:47
Speaker 2: We'll see if that's what actually happens.
34:49
Speaker 6: Nathan, Yeah, you can't sell. There's just no way. There's
34:53
Speaker 6: absolutely no way that a front office that has been
34:56
Speaker 6: this established in here for this long, where this roster
34:59
Speaker 6: is supposed to be at in their contention window, with
35:02
Speaker 6: where they're lining up. There's like five team it's a
35:05
Speaker 6: mild exaggeration, there's like five teams that actually want to
35:08
Speaker 6: sell that are actually out of the playoffs at this
35:10
Speaker 6: point in this year. Even if the Marins were to
35:12
Speaker 6: lose all six, I can make a good case that
35:13
Speaker 6: they're not going to be added to that list. To
35:15
Speaker 6: Chris's point, they have to go make this team better,
35:17
Speaker 6: and that's the only thing that I care about. Go
35:19
Speaker 6: make the team better. And to Chris's point, they do
35:21
Speaker 6: deserve credit. They've gone out and done that the last
35:23
Speaker 6: couple of years with Radio Rosarina, Josh Naylor and a
35:26
Speaker 6: Johana Suarez. Those are good pickups and they've really helped
35:29
Speaker 6: the team. But my gosh, if they try to hedge,
35:33
Speaker 6: or if they try to do some cutesy little buying
35:35
Speaker 6: wall selling nonsense, which they've tried in the past to do,
35:38
Speaker 6: and then they tell us I will never forget the
35:40
Speaker 6: Abraham Toro trade, and everybody getting all upset, and Jerry
35:43
Speaker 6: to Poto telling us all to wait to see the
35:45
Speaker 6: fullness of their moves as they were gonna come out,
35:46
Speaker 6: and they traded for like Cameron Mayben and Zach Duke
35:48
Speaker 6: and that was it. I'm not putting up with that
35:51
Speaker 6: crap this year. We are out of time, We're out
35:53
Speaker 6: of patience. It's the eleventh year for this front office here,
35:59
Speaker 6: and I don't if they're gonna if they even think
36:02
Speaker 6: about selling. This is the group that this group should
36:04
Speaker 6: not be allowed to sell. The people that are in
36:06
Speaker 6: charge should not be allowed to oversee a sale, because
36:08
Speaker 6: if it's time to sell, it's time for them to go.
36:11
Speaker 6: So they better be buying, and they better be buying
36:13
Speaker 6: as much as they possibly can. And if that means
36:15
Speaker 6: trading from the major league roster, which is something that
36:17
Speaker 6: they are loath to do for obvious reasons, they better
36:19
Speaker 6: do it to get a really damn good player. I
36:21
Speaker 6: don't want a role player. I don't want somebody who's
36:23
Speaker 6: like part of an eight art platoon or some crap
36:26
Speaker 6: like that, or a bench player. If they want to
36:28
Speaker 6: get a reliever, a better be friakin' Mason Miller. I
36:30
Speaker 6: want real additions to help this team go fricking win
36:34
Speaker 6: the World Series for the first time in franchise history.
36:37
Speaker 6: I don't have any My expectations have not changed just
36:39
Speaker 6: because they've played like crap for two thirds of the season.
36:42
Speaker 2: I might be the minority here, listen, And I don't
36:45
Speaker 2: think there's a player in baseball that I like more
36:48
Speaker 2: than Mason Miller, and mostly because of his ties that
36:51
Speaker 2: to my family, like the type one diabetes, what he overcame.
36:54
Speaker 2: The story is really similar to what we went through
36:56
Speaker 2: as a family, And I say we mostly my son.
36:59
Speaker 2: I love the guy, and he's he's the best, period,
37:02
Speaker 2: But it's unless you're trading moon yo's. I don't want
37:06
Speaker 2: to do that, Like you've already got that guy that
37:08
Speaker 2: you can't use half the time. Hell, he goes six
37:10
Speaker 2: days without pitching, you know, you get like it just
37:13
Speaker 2: makes no sense, Like I get it, he's great, but
37:16
Speaker 2: you need help elsewhere especially I don't know. Let me
37:19
Speaker 2: go back to segment one of Ali WoT Monday on
37:20
Speaker 2: a Tuesday offense. Uh so, let's do this, Chris, who
37:25
Speaker 2: are the guys on the current roster or even in
37:28
Speaker 2: the minors that they should think about moving?
37:33
Speaker 7: So the only guys that I am not trading are
37:37
Speaker 7: Kada Anderson. You couldn't trade cal Ralei even if you
37:41
Speaker 7: wanted to, and you shouldn't want to. And Julia Rodriguez
37:44
Speaker 7: as somebody that you're not moving. Everything else I think
37:47
Speaker 7: is within play here, like this is one of the
37:49
Speaker 7: things about their roster. And by the way, Josh Naylor
37:51
Speaker 7: is an incredibly untradable contract at this point as well.
37:55
Speaker 7: But and maybe cool Young like that's that's maybe one
37:59
Speaker 7: other guy that I'm like, hey, I'm hanging on to
38:01
Speaker 7: because I think he's shown flashes of brilliance and has
38:03
Speaker 7: a chance to be a four win player for a
38:05
Speaker 7: really long time. Everything else I think is in play here.
38:08
Speaker 7: And the opportunity that the Mariners present is you can
38:12
Speaker 7: upgrade pretty much anywhere. Third base is realistic, shortstop is realistic,
38:18
Speaker 7: second base probably not realistic other than up the middle
38:21
Speaker 7: because Colt Emerson, and I would want to upgrade at shortstop.
38:25
Speaker 7: Anders and I had a long conversation about it. But
38:28
Speaker 7: everything else should be in play here. Luke Rayley should
38:30
Speaker 7: absolutely be a trade target for them, like a guy
38:33
Speaker 7: that you should be looking to move to a team
38:36
Speaker 7: that can better utilize a platoon bat and a guy
38:40
Speaker 7: who has an on base percentage as low as Luke
38:42
Speaker 7: Rayley does. Like, everything should be in play here. And
38:46
Speaker 7: that's the cool thing is that they could like literally
38:49
Speaker 7: make a move and upgrade almost everywhere to make this
38:52
Speaker 7: team better in a realistic fashion. So everything should be
38:56
Speaker 7: on the table, honestly.
38:57
Speaker 2: But Kate Anderson, they.
39:01
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Chris is obviously the minor league expert,
39:04
Speaker 6: and he's the guy that understands the positional value better
39:06
Speaker 6: than I do. But I'm just struck by there's there's
39:11
Speaker 6: a couple guys in the rotation i'd really not want
39:13
Speaker 6: to get rid of. I really don't want to get
39:14
Speaker 6: rid of Bryce Miller or Brian wo or Emerson Hancock
39:18
Speaker 6: makes tons of sense for me to trade.
39:19
Speaker 2: And you're probably do you want to keep Logan?
39:21
Speaker 9: Right?
39:21
Speaker 6: I mean Logan's yeah, Yeah, I love, I love and
39:24
Speaker 6: I don't think he has a ton of value given
39:25
Speaker 6: that he's he's gonna be a free agent pretty soon.
39:27
Speaker 6: Relative to some of the other guys in the rotation,
39:30
Speaker 6: George Kirby is probably the guy that has the most
39:32
Speaker 6: value in the rotation. And I love George. I'd be
39:34
Speaker 6: sad to see him go. But given the unique circumstance,
39:37
Speaker 6: I understand why the team doesn't want to trade from
39:39
Speaker 6: their rotation, given that Kate Anderson might be their third
39:42
Speaker 6: best starting pitcher right now in the organization. I just
39:45
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, man, Like I get why you have this,
39:47
Speaker 6: but like that cannot be a hard and fast rule
39:50
Speaker 6: that you're not willing to make an exception for in
39:52
Speaker 6: this case, because you can get real talent for George,
39:55
Speaker 6: and George is probably not going to resign here from
39:57
Speaker 6: my understanding, and so there you might as well do it.
40:00
Speaker 6: You're not going to make the team significantly worse more
40:02
Speaker 6: than likely, and that's my big thing. If you're going
40:05
Speaker 6: to trade from the major league roster, as long as
40:06
Speaker 6: there's a plan to backfill so that you're not losing
40:08
Speaker 6: a lot, that's totally fine. But you need to get
40:11
Speaker 6: offense almost anywhere. To Chris's point, and I know, it
40:15
Speaker 6: really made it mad when I did it two weeks ago.
40:18
Speaker 6: Maybe get some defense while you're at it. That wouldn't
40:20
Speaker 6: hurt to have a couple couple competent defenders out there
40:23
Speaker 6: with the gloves. So there's just so many ways to
40:26
Speaker 6: improve this positional group in my mind, and there's as
40:28
Speaker 6: long as there's a plan for fill in the hole
40:31
Speaker 6: that you create. If you're trading from the rotation, I
40:33
Speaker 6: have no issue with it. It's really they're not going
40:36
Speaker 6: to trade kan Anderson, They're not going to trade Ryan Sloan.
40:38
Speaker 2: Other than that, whatever, All right, let's do this I
40:41
Speaker 2: I do. But real quick, Nathan, you mentioned the numbers
40:46
Speaker 2: they put up last year in the final third of
40:47
Speaker 2: the season. Didn't that come in large part because they
40:51
Speaker 2: made the trade for Naylor and Genal? Yeah?
40:54
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And I would say I'm they deserve full credit
40:58
Speaker 6: for those activations, for that any other trade, and and
41:00
Speaker 6: for the Swirest trade.
41:01
Speaker 2: Yeah.
41:01
Speaker 6: I will also point out that last year's team at
41:03
Speaker 6: the trade deadline had two glaring needs that were very obvious,
41:07
Speaker 6: which were first base and third base. And there was
41:09
Speaker 6: one team that has been proven to be a very
41:12
Speaker 6: willing trade partner with the Seattle Marinders that fell out
41:15
Speaker 6: of contention at exactly the right time, that just so
41:18
Speaker 6: happened to have a good first basement and third baseman
41:20
Speaker 6: who just so happened to be on expiring deals. That
41:24
Speaker 6: set of circumstances that lined all of that up for
41:27
Speaker 6: them to acquire those guys, which again they deserve full
41:29
Speaker 6: credit for doing, it is probably not gonna happen again. Man,
41:33
Speaker 6: It's probably not going to perfectly line up for them.
41:35
Speaker 6: They're gonna have to do something they don't want to do.
41:38
Speaker 2: It's gonna have to be uncomfortable. It's gonna be uncomfortable.
41:39
Speaker 2: But if if they're gonna Chris would just just yes.
41:42
Speaker 2: If if they're gonna make a trade that impacts this
41:44
Speaker 2: roster makes them better, it's gonna have to be something
41:46
Speaker 2: that's uncomfortable in terms of moving players that are gonna
41:49
Speaker 2: be like, uh, I don't really want to move Pitcher
41:52
Speaker 2: A B or C or prosibly, but it's gonna have to.
41:55
Speaker 2: It's gonna take something like that.
41:57
Speaker 7: Absolutely, it's going to take them making doing something uncomfortable,
42:00
Speaker 7: moving something that alters their plan considerably. And the Mariners
42:04
Speaker 7: don't love doing that, I think more than any franchise
42:07
Speaker 7: in baseball. They do not love to alter that plan.
42:10
Speaker 7: But if they're going to improve this team beyond the margins,
42:12
Speaker 7: they're going to have to do something that you give
42:15
Speaker 7: up some really good players for Andrews.
42:17
Speaker 2: Make a note of this. These guys are on hold
42:19
Speaker 2: for the rest of the week, waiting for something to happen.
42:22
Speaker 2: There's I just I feel that we may not talk again. Well,
42:25
Speaker 2: we have a text thread that's maybe the most entertaining
42:28
Speaker 2: part of my daily life. Oh, we do need to
42:32
Speaker 2: discuss something real quick. I think we need to take
42:34
Speaker 2: Benton office. He's a Dodger fan, yes, and the next
42:38
Speaker 2: three days can be insufferable. Yes, somebody make the call
42:41
Speaker 2: there please, I concur.
42:45
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's fine with me.
42:46
Speaker 7: He's a shocking back for the week, and like just
42:50
Speaker 7: just make a little switch a route.
42:54
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm fully on board.
42:56
Speaker 2: Uh okay, I just it's good Benton masquerading is a
42:59
Speaker 2: Mariner fan, down his Dodger blue bleeding through his veins,
43:02
Speaker 2: can't wait for the next three games. He's gonna be insufferable.
43:05
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's gentlemen. I just I thought you guys
43:09
Speaker 2: put up a good fight. I'm sorry, I thought the
43:11
Speaker 2: manners put up a good fight, right, Oh god, Mikey
43:16
Speaker 2: all right, Chris myle why I'm looking forward to it tonight.
43:19
Speaker 2: One way or the other. It's gonna be really good
43:21
Speaker 2: or really bad in terms of the outcome, so I
43:22
Speaker 2: can't wait.
43:24
Speaker 7: I appreciate everyone who's tuned into my fireside chats because
43:27
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43:29
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Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. Great job. Nathan keeps selling houses, the
43:40
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43:43
Speaker 2: Away you go, gentlemen, stand by. We could have an
43:46
Speaker 2: eventful week. And if we don't have an eventful week,
43:48
Speaker 2: and we don't have an eventful next Monday, then it
43:50
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43:53
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Speaker 2: Day four for the Hawks, Day two for US, Day
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44:35
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna get healthy in time, so they moved on
44:37
Speaker 2: from Kenny McIntosh. We wish him the best, good dude
44:40
Speaker 2: man had him on the show a couple three times
44:42
Speaker 2: over the years. Yeah, hopefully he gets healthy and gets better.
44:45
Speaker 2: Jayalen Carter, two time Pro Bowl selection, signed a four year,
44:49
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty two million dollar extensions words up
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Speaker 2: Carter or Witherspoon right India Draft. I really don't think
45:01
Speaker 2: you can go wrong either way.
45:02
Speaker 3: Both been pretty good.
45:03
Speaker 2: Witherspoon, I'll still I'll favor Witherspoon. He's on the field
45:07
Speaker 2: for every snap, but Parter gets a big deal again,
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Speaker 2: the biggest contract for dtackle in team history. Hawks getting
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45:29
Speaker 2: gonna hear today. Coming up at one forty five. Mariners
45:33
Speaker 2: lose yesterday seven to three. Next up Dodgers tonight. You
45:37
Speaker 2: just heard of that. Us discuss that with them Ali Whoppers.
45:40
Speaker 2: Joe Shean's gonna join us here in about fifteen minutes time.
45:43
Speaker 2: Talk about Brian Wu on the road. News from the
45:47
Speaker 2: broadcast world. Do you want the good or the bad first, Anders,
45:50
Speaker 2: Let's start with the bad. Well, the bad is ed
45:53
Speaker 2: Zoe's out and I may I don't want to make
45:55
Speaker 2: it sound like that. That a bad way to phrase it. Yeah,
45:57
Speaker 2: Eddie old Check has made the decision not to return
45:59
Speaker 2: to the Crack and Broadcast and Track and Hockey Network
46:01
Speaker 2: this season. Edzo, the legend that is ed Zo he's
46:04
Speaker 2: scaling back. He's got four grand kids. We all know
46:08
Speaker 2: his battle health wives over the years, beat cancer, his
46:11
Speaker 2: travel schedules insane, He's doing more games for TNT and
46:13
Speaker 2: he just he's scaling back.
46:15
Speaker 4: This is not a Kevin Collaboro Tom Dundon situation.
46:18
Speaker 2: Guys, I'm glad you said that. Yes, let me get
46:20
Speaker 2: because it's you saying that, not even yeah right right.
46:23
Speaker 2: It is one hundred percent of his decision. He let
46:26
Speaker 2: a lot of us know last week. They announced it today,
46:28
Speaker 2: he's going to join our show tomorrow. We will have
46:31
Speaker 2: many a laugh tomorrow with him, all right, and uh,
46:34
Speaker 2: we'll put our plums on the table, as they say,
46:36
Speaker 2: and have some fun with Edzo tomorrow. And then you
46:39
Speaker 2: know what he also did say. He did tell me.
46:42
Speaker 2: He said he's going to join us a lot this year.
46:43
Speaker 2: So with your plums on the table mentality, Thanks Edze.
46:48
Speaker 2: The good news is my former co host man. I'll
46:52
Speaker 2: tell you what. I'm a starmaker. I am an absolute stark.
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Speaker 3: Just like fifteen years later or something like that.
46:57
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'll go through the list, eh in.
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Speaker 2: I'll take credit for Russini or work with her at
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Speaker 2: brook Oles and dam Let mean that's through the list, yeah,
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Speaker 2: All right, we are here the Virginia Mason Athletics Center.
47:50
Speaker 2: It is day four for the team, Day two for
47:53
Speaker 2: our coverage on the station. I was here Saturday, so
47:55
Speaker 2: my third day. They get a day off tomorrow to
47:58
Speaker 2: the Seahawks. You know they're looking forward to that. Getna
48:01
Speaker 2: sit back and have a little bit of a breather
48:04
Speaker 2: after four days of football. And there's Mike McDonald said
48:06
Speaker 2: yesterday post practice, telling us that on Thursday when they
48:10
Speaker 2: come back, they're gonna be in the paths and a
48:12
Speaker 2: way they go. So yeah, real football starting on Thursday,
48:15
Speaker 2: at least sort of real football. I mean it's I
48:18
Speaker 2: guess USA football with those junior coaches. When you're training,
48:20
Speaker 2: they call it thud, you know, So they'll hit, they
48:23
Speaker 2: won't take guys to the ground, but there will be
48:24
Speaker 2: some contact. We'll get the one on one path rush drills,
48:27
Speaker 2: which are always a ton of fun to watch, very competitive.
48:30
Speaker 2: So that's coming up on Thursday. Today's looks like a
48:34
Speaker 2: normal they're just kind of in shells type of thing.
48:36
Speaker 2: Not no paths, no shoulder pads or anything. So we'll
48:39
Speaker 2: keep an eye on what's going on out there. The
48:41
Speaker 2: practice is just it's like a little later than normal.
48:45
Speaker 2: I can't keep track of the time. If I was
48:47
Speaker 2: twelve to fifty five, it looks like it's closer to
48:48
Speaker 2: one to fifteen. It'll start today, maybe even a little
48:51
Speaker 2: bit later than that. So there's offensive coordinator Brian Flurry
48:54
Speaker 2: walking on to the field. He's just a spot tall,
48:57
Speaker 2: thin dude, beard, no hair, looks like a looks like
49:02
Speaker 2: a tight ends coach. Now he's an offensive coordinator. He's
49:04
Speaker 2: walking out there with Mike McDonald as they get ready
49:06
Speaker 2: for this practice. Mike McDonald diffusive and his praise, by
49:08
Speaker 2: the way, yesterday for Florrie talking about he's learned things
49:11
Speaker 2: from him already, which I thought was kind of an interesting,
49:14
Speaker 2: cool thing. McDonald's such a sponge and it's just such
49:17
Speaker 2: a savant, you know, like a lot of times you
49:19
Speaker 2: bring in a new oc in and it's going to be,
49:21
Speaker 2: you know, here's how we're doing things one thousand percent.
49:25
Speaker 2: And Mike McDonald talked about it yesterday. He just said, hey,
49:27
Speaker 2: I'm this guy's coming in with fresh ideas. What I'm
49:31
Speaker 2: learning from him is fantastic, and vice versa. And they
49:36
Speaker 2: really like some of the things he does, and he said,
49:38
Speaker 2: I like the little things that he coaches, the little things.
49:41
Speaker 2: And we'll see what that means during the course of
49:43
Speaker 2: the season. And at some point we'll probably get Q
49:45
Speaker 2: mailed on the show probably maybe I don't know, if
49:47
Speaker 2: we can find him tomorrow. Maybe we'll find you on
49:49
Speaker 2: the show tomorrow or later on this week. We'll see
49:51
Speaker 2: what those little things mean. But yeah, kind of cool. Three.
49:54
Speaker 2: I would just thinking to you and when he was
49:56
Speaker 2: talking about it yesterday. Three offensive coordinators in three years,
49:59
Speaker 2: but the first one was not. I don't. They can
50:03
Speaker 2: deny it all they want. Remember the the little acroponious
50:06
Speaker 2: exchange with some of the reporters, including Greg Bell and others,
50:10
Speaker 2: with Schneider and McDonald after the first year when they
50:12
Speaker 2: let Ryan Grubb go and and you know they said, well,
50:15
Speaker 2: you know it was a year higher. McDonald says, I
50:17
Speaker 2: was a hundred percent my heart, No, it wasn't. Ryan
50:19
Speaker 2: Grubb is one hundred percent. John Schnyder's higher. McDonald was
50:22
Speaker 2: hired late. It just it didn't work out. That happens.
50:24
Speaker 2: And you know what, Pete Carroll's first offensive coordinator got
50:27
Speaker 2: fired too. Although Pete went through offensive coordinators kind of
50:30
Speaker 2: like the marriers go through hitting coaches. It's it's like,
50:34
Speaker 2: but Jeremy Bates was the first guy, and he was gone,
50:37
Speaker 2: like thanks for coming. Yeah, so uh, you know they
50:40
Speaker 2: but but yeah, I think in the case of Kubiak,
50:43
Speaker 2: the fact you got a head coaching job, that's pretty cool.
50:46
Speaker 2: That's that's pretty cool.
50:47
Speaker 4: I tells you that, Like it was successful, right, So
50:49
Speaker 4: hopefully it's a seller path for Brian the success.
50:52
Speaker 2: Was in the numbers in terms of having the best
50:55
Speaker 2: scoring offense that the team had ever had, and then
50:58
Speaker 2: the other success was the fact that another team decided
51:00
Speaker 2: this guy was ready to be a head coach. Right,
51:02
Speaker 2: that's a successful hire. So Brian Fleury walking out right now,
51:06
Speaker 2: most of the players slowly making the way out of
51:09
Speaker 2: the field.
51:09
Speaker 4: So is that the biggest question mark you think for
51:11
Speaker 4: this team because there's not really a lot of them
51:13
Speaker 4: going into this year. Obviously the running back position, But
51:16
Speaker 4: for me, I think I go to offensive coordinator because
51:18
Speaker 4: we did see how big of a difference a good
51:21
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator versus someone who doesn't have success at this
51:25
Speaker 4: level would look.
51:25
Speaker 2: Like God, I think. So I hadn't thought of it
51:28
Speaker 2: in those terms, Andrews. Yeah. And you know why I
51:31
Speaker 2: hadn't thought of it in those terms is because outside
51:34
Speaker 2: of that coaching staff, largely intact YEP roster, at least
51:39
Speaker 2: the core is intact. Now, you lose a couple guys,
51:42
Speaker 2: but really what they lost, I mean lose Kobe Bryant, Yeah,
51:46
Speaker 2: kind of a starter, kind of not and they've got
51:49
Speaker 2: so much depth that position that's replaceable, Reek Wollen. They're
51:53
Speaker 2: fine at that position. They just they made a choice. Yeah,
51:55
Speaker 2: they made a choice to go with job jail and
51:58
Speaker 2: throw him in there. So yeah, I maybe the offensive
52:02
Speaker 2: a new offensive coordinator, but it's the same system.
52:05
Speaker 8: Yeah.
52:06
Speaker 2: So but yeah, I mean he hasn't been a play call, right,
52:11
Speaker 2: that's probably the biggest thing. Right, That's that's like you're
52:14
Speaker 2: you're in a new world in that regard because before
52:18
Speaker 2: it was Yeah, Kubiak had experience in that regard. So yeah,
52:23
Speaker 2: I think that's probably it. Yeah.
52:24
Speaker 4: And then like I'm not saying it will be a
52:26
Speaker 4: failure or anything like that hiring process, but you gotta
52:29
Speaker 4: admit it's a question mark because you just don't know.
52:31
Speaker 2: Every well, every team has it right, every team, every
52:33
Speaker 2: team has Every team has a question mark. Every team
52:36
Speaker 2: has something they're they're wondering about. Yeah, that's probably it.
52:39
Speaker 2: That's probably it. All right, we got by the way, well,
52:43
Speaker 2: we're gonna have the dumb We're not gonna do daily
52:45
Speaker 2: power play it X. We're gonna wait tomorrow. We told
52:47
Speaker 2: you ed will behind tomorrow and know.
52:50
Speaker 3: You're looking for I can't wait. I can't wait.
52:53
Speaker 2: I'm sad, man, I'll be honest, Yeah, I'm sad. That's
52:56
Speaker 2: got I loved working with the guy.
52:58
Speaker 3: Maybe we should get him on a little weekly Let's we'll.
53:01
Speaker 2: See what we can do. Yeah, we'll see what we
53:02
Speaker 2: can do. Yeah, we'll see what we can do. We'll
53:04
Speaker 2: see see how freely he speaks. Yes, exactly. Actually, you
53:07
Speaker 2: know what, I don't think it mattered before.
53:09
Speaker 3: No, it didn't.
53:10
Speaker 2: It didn't matter at all. Right, that guy said whatever
53:12
Speaker 2: the hell was on his mind, and that's what we'd
53:14
Speaker 2: loved him.
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Speaker 8: Uh.
53:15
Speaker 2: And good for Lease Woodward man. I'm very happy for
53:17
Speaker 2: my for former co host, and she's been doing the
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Speaker 2: Portland fire games. She did a Husky football game a
53:21
Speaker 2: couple of years ago when when Tony was outer. Yes,
53:24
Speaker 2: strengthen happened, So good for her. Good good for Washington
53:27
Speaker 2: taking that, uh, taking that step and giving her that opportunity. Okay,
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Speaker 2: and Hello. I say hello from the training camp Virginia
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Speaker 2: Mason Athletics Center of the Shores of Lake Washington for
54:35
Speaker 2: the defending Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks, taking a break
54:39
Speaker 2: from football to talk to you, my friend. How are
54:41
Speaker 2: you h I'm good.
54:43
Speaker 9: I guess the city of Seattle's got to be pretty
54:45
Speaker 9: happy to have this distraction right now. Uh.
54:48
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, it was not a good weekend, Joe. It was.
54:51
Speaker 2: It was just not a good weekend and we got
54:54
Speaker 2: trade deadline coming up in six days. We had losing
54:58
Speaker 2: three of four to the Ranger, falling even in behind
55:01
Speaker 2: in the wild card race. And oh, by the way,
55:04
Speaker 2: you might have heard of the team there. They started
55:06
Speaker 2: a three game series with tonight. They reside in Los Angeles.
55:10
Speaker 2: Chavaz Regime Ravine, I think is the place called. You
55:13
Speaker 2: might have heard of it. That should be easy, right,
55:17
Speaker 2: you know, But.
55:17
Speaker 9: The Dodgers, you never know what they're gonna get. Yeah,
55:20
Speaker 9: obviously the talent's there and they're the best team at baseball.
55:23
Speaker 9: But right before the break they lost the like four
55:27
Speaker 9: or six it was to the Rockies and Diamondbacks. And
55:30
Speaker 9: you can always tell this time of the year where
55:32
Speaker 9: it's just like they know the regular season doesn't mean anything. Yeah,
55:35
Speaker 9: some years the will be the one seed, some years
55:37
Speaker 9: will be the two. Last year they were the three.
55:38
Speaker 9: They just need to show up on October first and
55:41
Speaker 9: play whoever they play, So you never know. Dave Roberts
55:44
Speaker 9: tends to manage his bullpen even now in late July
55:47
Speaker 9: with an I towards October. So I know the uniform,
55:51
Speaker 9: I know the stats, I know the record, But the
55:54
Speaker 9: Dodgers can sometimes not be as tough as you think
55:56
Speaker 9: they'll be.
55:58
Speaker 2: Well see there, Anders, you wanted some there you got it. Huh.
56:01
Speaker 2: That make you feel better. Feel a little better about that.
56:03
Speaker 2: I think so okay, good and we got a little
56:05
Speaker 2: bit of good news. Uh, you went inside a box score.
56:08
Speaker 2: I do believe. Was that Saturday with the Mariners and
56:10
Speaker 2: the Rangers? Is that right? Yes? It was Saturday or Monday?
56:14
Speaker 9: No? No?
56:15
Speaker 2: When was that the twenty?
56:16
Speaker 9: It was Saturday. I just I watched that game pretty closely.
56:20
Speaker 2: Bryce Miller. I want to go talk about that for
56:22
Speaker 2: a second because I thought this, this line caught my attention.
56:25
Speaker 2: Inability to put hitters away was costly, and finishing guys off.
56:30
Speaker 2: Bryce Miller has been really good for sales. And because
56:32
Speaker 2: coming back to the Angelists, we'll get to your friend
56:34
Speaker 2: Brian Will before me. Trust me, Joe, I know you're
56:35
Speaker 2: waiting for that. We'll get to that in a second.
56:37
Speaker 2: But but with that game, and you talked about, you
56:41
Speaker 2: know what he was able not to do with his fastball.
56:43
Speaker 2: What'd you see from Bryce Miller in that game?
56:45
Speaker 9: Yeah, he just he had a bunch of o two
56:47
Speaker 9: counts and he wasn't putting guys away, and that was,
56:49
Speaker 9: you know, pretty critical to the Hall process. You go
56:52
Speaker 9: back to the fourth of Jake Berger at bat, He's
56:55
Speaker 9: go too on Jake Berger, and look, Jake Berger is
56:57
Speaker 9: not a bad player, but when you've got Berger right
56:59
Speaker 9: on right two, you gotta be able to put him away,
57:02
Speaker 9: throw him fastball up and it was just a really
57:04
Speaker 9: really bad pitch and Berger took it out. And that
57:07
Speaker 9: was really the key play in the game. You go
57:08
Speaker 9: back to go to the sixth that the rally, the
57:11
Speaker 9: end up being the difference in the game. It was
57:12
Speaker 9: O two on Nemo who gave up a single one
57:15
Speaker 9: two two on Evan Carter, which Evan Carter I loved
57:19
Speaker 9: him coming through obviously had the great postseason in twenty three,
57:22
Speaker 9: but he's also somebody got to be able to put
57:24
Speaker 9: away on two and those three played appearances were the key. Now,
57:28
Speaker 9: last Miller was the first time in Miller's career that
57:32
Speaker 9: he had actually had to start with their strikeouts, and
57:34
Speaker 9: a lot of it was because he was getting these
57:35
Speaker 9: two strikeouts and couldn't put Pays away. I didn't see
57:37
Speaker 9: anything that maybe go, oh my god, we've got a
57:39
Speaker 9: real problem here. It was just one of those nights
57:41
Speaker 9: and it happened. But that's something he has to work on.
57:45
Speaker 9: That can't be the case in the future. Starts and
57:47
Speaker 9: I don't think it will be. I think Millard will
57:49
Speaker 9: be fine going forward, but in a big series, in
57:52
Speaker 9: a big game last Friday, they the Rangers just beat
57:55
Speaker 9: him in those two strike counts.
57:57
Speaker 2: One of the things and join Joshian newsletter the let
58:01
Speaker 2: me look at them before we get back to our
58:02
Speaker 2: baseball team and some and then trade deadlines looming. And
58:04
Speaker 2: I loved your thing on the rentals. We'll get to
58:06
Speaker 2: that here in a second, Joe. We were wondering going
58:10
Speaker 2: into this into this series, who and what the Rangers were.
58:14
Speaker 2: And I one of the show before me, Greg bell
58:16
Speaker 2: Hoost it from the Becoming News Tribune, and he had
58:19
Speaker 2: the beat right around from the Dallas Morning News. Name
58:21
Speaker 2: escapes me, but he had him on and he talked
58:23
Speaker 2: about the fact that, hey, the Rangers aren't really fully
58:27
Speaker 2: committed to doing this this year. They're not really sure
58:30
Speaker 2: who they are. They they're not they're not kind of
58:32
Speaker 2: like the Mariners are by all accounts, we kind of
58:34
Speaker 2: feel like they're all in. And he said, well, you know,
58:36
Speaker 2: the Rangers, if they lose, if they split the series
58:39
Speaker 2: or or lose three of four, they may just kind
58:42
Speaker 2: of start looking at selling and doing some things. The
58:44
Speaker 2: opposite happened. They win three of four. Who are the Rangers?
58:49
Speaker 2: And I get I'm gonna throw this at you, to
58:51
Speaker 2: me the Rangers. Jock Peterson might be the wasn't he
58:54
Speaker 2: like the worst hitter in baseball last year? And all
58:56
Speaker 2: of a sudden, this guy's killing Seattle? Like, what the
58:58
Speaker 2: hell's going on with Texas Rangers.
59:01
Speaker 9: This is the thing about, you know, baseball. The guys
59:03
Speaker 9: can't have really bad years and then bounce back. And
59:05
Speaker 9: that's something that Maradith band is gonna want to keep
59:07
Speaker 9: in mind when.
59:07
Speaker 2: It comes to Calorrall.
59:09
Speaker 9: Josh Dalen too, as a matter of fact. But yeah, Peterson,
59:12
Speaker 9: this is what he's done. This is why they signed
59:14
Speaker 9: him to that two year deal a couple of years ago.
59:15
Speaker 9: And he was terrible last year, and you know, he's
59:17
Speaker 9: a limited player, has to play against righties, really can't
59:20
Speaker 9: play in the field. They actually had to play him
59:22
Speaker 9: in a great field at at the Yankee Stadium a
59:25
Speaker 9: couple of months back, and it was ugly as heck.
59:27
Speaker 9: He's just not out. He's just the d ah at
59:28
Speaker 9: this point. He's the kind of player who you don't
59:31
Speaker 9: see a lot like guys who are just platoon dhs.
59:34
Speaker 9: It's hard to fit them on rosters now because you're
59:36
Speaker 9: only carrying four bench players. One of them values has
59:39
Speaker 9: to be a catcher when he has to be able
59:40
Speaker 9: to play short up. You don't see guys like this
59:42
Speaker 9: on the roster very often, but he's had a huge
59:44
Speaker 9: year for them. He's been their best hitter, which kind
59:46
Speaker 9: of blews my mind when you think about, you know
59:48
Speaker 9: why at Langford and Corey Segert some of the other
59:50
Speaker 9: guys they have. I want to respectfully disagree with the
59:53
Speaker 9: person you were referring to earlier, Cory Seger's thirty two,
59:57
Speaker 9: Jacob de Groun's thirty eight and if any evolved these
59:59
Speaker 9: thirty six MS thirty three. I don't think there was
1:00:02
Speaker 9: ever any chance the Rangers weren't playing for this year.
1:00:05
Speaker 9: You know, they didn't spend a ton of money over
1:00:07
Speaker 9: the winter, but you look at the contracts they have
1:00:09
Speaker 9: on hand. They shuffled some money in the SETI and
1:00:11
Speaker 9: Memo deal. I think unless they were completely out of it, yeah,
1:00:16
Speaker 9: I don't think they were gonna sell, and I think
1:00:18
Speaker 9: there were probably a thesent chances they were gonna buy.
1:00:19
Speaker 9: And obviously now three out of four later they're clue.
1:00:22
Speaker 9: I mean, they're leading the division. It's really not a
1:00:24
Speaker 9: selling position. There are a lot of teams trapped by
1:00:27
Speaker 9: the standings.
1:00:28
Speaker 10: Right now, but the Rangers at them.
1:00:29
Speaker 9: The Rangers are going to, I think, try to pick
1:00:31
Speaker 9: up a power arm from the right side. Uh maybe
1:00:34
Speaker 9: a bat or two al though it's not entirely clear
1:00:36
Speaker 9: where they fit one in, especially after Secer comes back.
1:00:38
Speaker 9: But I think the last series was more about the
1:00:43
Speaker 9: Rangers than the the Marritors.
1:00:44
Speaker 10: The Rangers are a.
1:00:45
Speaker 9: Good run prevention team and they score just enough to
1:00:48
Speaker 9: beat you. Remember they've been outscored on the season if
1:00:50
Speaker 9: you don't look at third order record things like that.
1:00:52
Speaker 9: The Mariners are clearly the better team. But again, we
1:00:56
Speaker 9: get to a point in the season where I can
1:00:57
Speaker 9: give you all the predictive metrics I want, and you
1:01:00
Speaker 9: get the point at the standards and say, shut up.
1:01:03
Speaker 2: Well, it is interesting looking at because we've talked about
1:01:06
Speaker 2: it before, run differential and you know, kind of take
1:01:08
Speaker 2: a peek and see where teams are at. And you know,
1:01:10
Speaker 2: when you look at the American League right now, the
1:01:12
Speaker 2: division leaders two of the three or plus forty two,
1:01:14
Speaker 2: the Rays and the White Sox. The Yankees are a
1:01:17
Speaker 2: plus eighty eight and the Red Sox plus forty eight.
1:01:19
Speaker 2: Those are the top two wildcard teams and then everyone
1:01:21
Speaker 2: else except for the Tigers at plus twenty five, which
1:01:24
Speaker 2: is an outlider, and they're fifty to fifty seven and
1:01:26
Speaker 2: the Mirrors at plus eight have a negative run differential
1:01:29
Speaker 2: in the league. The Mirrors, though, Joe, I should point
1:01:31
Speaker 2: out Andrews helped me out here. Weren't they like a
1:01:33
Speaker 2: plus thirty one not too long ago?
1:01:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they definitely had a much better like Pythagorean
1:01:40
Speaker 4: you know, you know, run.
1:01:42
Speaker 2: That's a huge ass word. I have no idea what
1:01:44
Speaker 2: that means. All right, big words, though, Joe. Let's look
1:01:47
Speaker 2: at that that race though, because we're gonna get into
1:01:50
Speaker 2: we'll get in the trade deadline and everything else. If
1:01:53
Speaker 2: your are the Tigers still in it in a wildcard
1:01:55
Speaker 2: four games out, they are right again.
1:01:58
Speaker 9: I'm going to point to the under line record, which
1:02:00
Speaker 9: indicates that they were like the best team in the
1:02:02
Speaker 9: American League. I've got a point to having school. They've
1:02:05
Speaker 9: had bullpen issues that blew up a lot of games
1:02:07
Speaker 9: for them early on. Kry Carpenter is gonna be out
1:02:09
Speaker 9: for a band thing. I'm trying to replace him, but
1:02:11
Speaker 9: the teams in front of them are just not good.
1:02:13
Speaker 9: I know the White Sox are a great story, but
1:02:15
Speaker 9: they've been outscored. The Guardians have been outscored. I just
1:02:18
Speaker 9: don't remember last year the Guardians were fifteen back in
1:02:21
Speaker 9: this division. So you can't tell me that six back
1:02:24
Speaker 9: with fifty six to play is too much to make
1:02:27
Speaker 9: up on two teams that you're better than. I did
1:02:29
Speaker 9: a whole thing yesterday about how they should keep Schooble,
1:02:31
Speaker 9: in part because I don't think they're going to get
1:02:33
Speaker 9: a whole lot for room. And I stand by that
1:02:35
Speaker 9: it would be nice if they would win a game
1:02:36
Speaker 9: this week. I mean, help me out, your guys, but
1:02:39
Speaker 9: I don't think this is a team that should be selling.
1:02:42
Speaker 9: I still say that there they would be a chance
1:02:45
Speaker 9: to win the division, and certainly well, I mean everybody
1:02:47
Speaker 9: short of you know, James Madison and the Colonial has
1:02:50
Speaker 9: a chance.
1:02:50
Speaker 2: To win the Wild Cimeale Joe she Ed joining us
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Speaker 2: Roger by Northwest Handling Systems, John and I have a
1:02:57
Speaker 2: little I'm gonna do this exercise just for giggles. For second,
1:03:01
Speaker 2: if if if you were doing a show for somebody
1:03:04
Speaker 2: in maybe it's Detroit, maybe it's Cleveland, Chicago with the
1:03:09
Speaker 2: White Sox, what have you? And they said, Jill, we're
1:03:11
Speaker 2: trying to figure out last year's team in the Alcs
1:03:14
Speaker 2: not named Toronto who. Obviously we know what's what's going
1:03:17
Speaker 2: on with them having all kinds of issues, a lot
1:03:18
Speaker 2: of injuries, everything else. But what about the minors, Joe
1:03:21
Speaker 2: she and who and what are the Mariners with a
1:03:23
Speaker 2: third of the season left their team?
1:03:25
Speaker 9: Whose core has really let them down this year? And
1:03:27
Speaker 9: that's really the biggest thing. I mean, they've gotten such
1:03:30
Speaker 9: good performances that would be next tier down when you
1:03:32
Speaker 9: look at Raley and Canzoe and Cole Young is a
1:03:34
Speaker 9: hell of a player. We have ad hitter and a
1:03:36
Speaker 9: plus plus defender. But col Rally obviously one of the
1:03:40
Speaker 9: big stories of the season. Josh Naylor slightly below average
1:03:43
Speaker 9: hitter and frankly, if he's not giving you the bag,
1:03:44
Speaker 9: he's not helping you much at all. Juleiro Reguez I
1:03:48
Speaker 9: keep projecting for m VPS and he keeps coming in
1:03:50
Speaker 9: as a good player. Hulirorigaez is going to up leading
1:03:53
Speaker 9: this team in the war World might be rid, but
1:03:56
Speaker 9: you expect him to be the six wing guy and
1:03:58
Speaker 9: he's gonna up being a four wing guy. So that
1:04:00
Speaker 9: deficit rally Naylor Rodriguez, those guys not playing well is
1:04:05
Speaker 9: the difference between this team being in first place and
1:04:07
Speaker 9: this team chasing. That's the biggest story for the Maritors
1:04:10
Speaker 9: this year and their hitters. And yeah, I think that
1:04:12
Speaker 9: the rotation statistically is really good. I guess you're gonna
1:04:16
Speaker 9: pick on me about Brian Wuda hasn't worked out, but
1:04:18
Speaker 9: look past the eras and look at the fips, and
1:04:20
Speaker 9: there's not a starter in this rotation with a fifth
1:04:23
Speaker 9: above four point three seven if five of them are
1:04:25
Speaker 9: in the threes. And frankly, I didn't see Mson Hancock,
1:04:28
Speaker 9: so you can't pick on this rotation. I do think
1:04:31
Speaker 9: the loss of Matt Brash because they had the bullpen lineup.
1:04:35
Speaker 9: Certainly they trade it for Frere from the left side,
1:04:38
Speaker 9: but now you drop off to Bizardo from Munios, and
1:04:40
Speaker 9: then the drop off after Bizarto is to like, did
1:04:43
Speaker 9: I see Bobby I Allen will up in the bullpen
1:04:45
Speaker 9: the other day?
1:04:46
Speaker 2: Oh my god, stop it, stop it, Joe, Joe, listen,
1:04:50
Speaker 2: I've been nice to you. I haven't brought up. I
1:04:52
Speaker 2: have not brought up roade Brian. Will you brought it
1:04:54
Speaker 2: up yourself? You bring up Bobby I al of the
1:04:57
Speaker 2: gloves or officer. If you start doing that in this town,
1:05:00
Speaker 2: my god, Joe like, it's like take a trade for
1:05:04
Speaker 2: he spoke. Oh God, make it stop, make it stop.
1:05:14
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean the Jason Veritech trade was one
1:05:16
Speaker 2: of the great ones of all time. Okay, uh it
1:05:18
Speaker 2: is Jo and Jochi and News are joining us. Do
1:05:22
Speaker 2: you want to talk about Brian Wu's road record real quick?
1:05:24
Speaker 2: Should we do that? What the hell? Because didn't you
1:05:25
Speaker 2: text Andrews at one point and sale? Oh I think
1:05:28
Speaker 2: you did. I think there wasn't. I think there was
1:05:30
Speaker 2: an an exchange between you two behind my back? Is
1:05:32
Speaker 2: that true?
1:05:34
Speaker 9: Good night? We had talked and we had talked about
1:05:36
Speaker 9: Lou going into a start in my headed and he
1:05:38
Speaker 9: didn't pitch well like I said Anders, I'm like, uh, yeah,
1:05:40
Speaker 9: I guess I never hear about this.
1:05:46
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then the Texas Series.
1:05:49
Speaker 9: I can't say it enough times. Single season home run
1:05:53
Speaker 9: actually home road splits are just noise. I know it
1:05:55
Speaker 9: looks ugly and some of who's exacerbated. Matter of fact
1:05:58
Speaker 9: that the homestats are going to be better in a
1:06:00
Speaker 9: very good picture, Spark, but you're just not gonna let
1:06:03
Speaker 9: me it. Eleven starts down on the road. I just
1:06:06
Speaker 9: everything I know as a stat head is gonna is
1:06:08
Speaker 9: gonna tell me. Eleven starts his stories Andrews.
1:06:11
Speaker 2: Does he have a start against the Dodgers? He started
1:06:13
Speaker 2: when on Saturday?
1:06:15
Speaker 3: Right, I don't doubt it does because the six man rotations, No.
1:06:18
Speaker 2: Six man, yeah, six man. Ain't nobody happy about six
1:06:21
Speaker 2: man rotation than Rod Brian wu Right now, I'll tell
1:06:23
Speaker 2: you that he gets to come home and see the
1:06:25
Speaker 2: Tigers on Friday. It looks like, okay, Joe rentals, trade
1:06:28
Speaker 2: deadline all that. Let's talk about rentals for a second,
1:06:31
Speaker 2: because I think that's an interesting one. We always you know.
1:06:33
Speaker 2: As it turns out, Gino Suarez was a rental last year,
1:06:36
Speaker 2: Josh Naylor. I don't know if he was truly a rental,
1:06:39
Speaker 2: but they had to resign him. But Joe they bring
1:06:41
Speaker 2: him back as well. What are the what are the
1:06:43
Speaker 2: dilemmas that teams are facing here six days away from
1:06:46
Speaker 2: the trade deadline?
1:06:48
Speaker 9: Well, I mean, you have twenty four teams within five
1:06:51
Speaker 9: games of the playoff spot. So there are a whole
1:06:54
Speaker 9: lot of teams in the middle of this that are contender.
1:06:57
Speaker 9: They're trucked by the standings and the phrase I've been
1:06:59
Speaker 9: using where look at the standings and there are two
1:07:01
Speaker 9: games out of a playoff spot, which is an impossible
1:07:03
Speaker 9: position to sell for them. You can't really, you can't
1:07:05
Speaker 9: make that case. But when you look, you say, well,
1:07:07
Speaker 9: this is the team is under five hundred, and they
1:07:09
Speaker 9: look even worse if you look under the hood. But
1:07:11
Speaker 9: you can't sell when you're two games out of a
1:07:13
Speaker 9: like what is why do we have twelve playoff teams?
1:07:16
Speaker 9: The teams are gonna sell if they're they're two games out,
1:07:18
Speaker 9: so you only have six clear sellers right now, and
1:07:21
Speaker 9: I think the Blue Jay spill and it's the Reds whale.
1:07:23
Speaker 9: But when I say, I think we talked about teams
1:07:25
Speaker 9: that if they were to win three in a row.
1:07:27
Speaker 9: Now they're three back or two back, and now could
1:07:30
Speaker 9: they really sell? Things are really congested that medal right now,
1:07:33
Speaker 9: and there's no guarantee they get less congested by Friday
1:07:36
Speaker 9: Saturday Sunday trade deadline is six thirty excuse me a
1:07:38
Speaker 9: six pm Eastern on on Monday and I'm exaiturday. Do
1:07:41
Speaker 9: all my radio on Tuesday, so I get to come
1:07:44
Speaker 9: and talk to everybody the day after the treadline. Trade
1:07:46
Speaker 9: Deadline's gonna be awesome. I just don't know that we
1:07:48
Speaker 9: have a market. We can't define enough sellers right now. Yeah,
1:07:51
Speaker 9: and that's the mental trades're Freddy par Alta. But Freddy
1:07:54
Speaker 9: par Alta is the reason that they're forty and sixty
1:07:56
Speaker 9: whatever it is. The Giants will trade you, guys, but again,
1:07:58
Speaker 9: the Giants aren't a very good team. There are teams
1:08:01
Speaker 9: like the Rockies that just don't really have a whole
1:08:02
Speaker 9: lot to give up. The Nationals don't have a whole
1:08:04
Speaker 9: lot to give up. So I don't It's very hard
1:08:07
Speaker 9: for me to see a market being made right now
1:08:10
Speaker 9: without some more teams defining as sellers. And I'll tell
1:08:12
Speaker 9: you right now, then there are gms this week. They'll
1:08:14
Speaker 9: never admit it. You can't tell me there are gms
1:08:17
Speaker 9: out there thinking let's just lose four in a row,
1:08:19
Speaker 9: just make the decision easier for me.
1:08:22
Speaker 2: That's what we're wondering here, honestly, in Seattle. I just
1:08:26
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, worst case scenario six games, and
1:08:30
Speaker 2: there's what's the worst case scenario they go two and four.
1:08:34
Speaker 4: I mean you can, you could, you could put a
1:08:35
Speaker 4: one in five in this week and really make it. Honestly,
1:08:40
Speaker 4: it makes their job harder because of because then you're different,
1:08:43
Speaker 4: and they wouldn't be that far out. Still, they'd probably
1:08:45
Speaker 4: be at most four games out, so I don't.
1:08:47
Speaker 2: Know, fifty Yeah, they'd be fifty three and sixty and
1:08:49
Speaker 2: probably four games out of a wild card spot, maybe
1:08:52
Speaker 2: four or five out of out of the division. So
1:08:54
Speaker 2: what do you do if you're Jerry to Poto Joe,
1:08:56
Speaker 2: I mean you got I mean, it's.
1:08:59
Speaker 9: Let's talk hit ourselves. Worst these scenario is oWoD six.
1:09:02
Speaker 9: I mean that can happen. We just saw the Marlins
1:09:04
Speaker 9: lose twelve in a row. The Cubs lost tendant earlier
1:09:07
Speaker 9: in this year. I mean, there's definitely some downside risk
1:09:10
Speaker 9: here which you want to avoid, hopefully, is going three
1:09:12
Speaker 9: and three and where you're kind of okay, we're still
1:09:14
Speaker 9: two out in the wildcard and we're still three out
1:09:16
Speaker 9: in the West. And what do we do. I don't
1:09:19
Speaker 9: I think short of one in five, two and six,
1:09:22
Speaker 9: I see the OO six where other things happen as
1:09:24
Speaker 9: well to push you back. It's gonna be very hard.
1:09:26
Speaker 9: You've put so much into this wallster like I would
1:09:30
Speaker 9: have a very hard time giving up on a year
1:09:32
Speaker 9: when this is when you're supposed to be competing with Rally,
1:09:35
Speaker 9: with Naylor, with Rodriguez, and I don't know the trades
1:09:39
Speaker 9: that are being proposed for the Marritors. Take one of
1:09:41
Speaker 9: those starters, take two of those starters, try to get
1:09:43
Speaker 9: some offense. Like I'm seeing things like Matt Shaw. A
1:09:46
Speaker 9: lot of people talking about ever, say Hancock bat Shawn
1:09:48
Speaker 9: matching up. I don't think the Vernor's need a Mat Shawn.
1:09:50
Speaker 9: That Shaw is a very good defensive third basement's like
1:09:53
Speaker 9: a one ten, one five, one ten ops guy. Ohps,
1:09:56
Speaker 9: plus I was a one ten ops guy. What you
1:09:59
Speaker 9: need is some big Harry monster in the middle of
1:10:02
Speaker 9: the lineup. You needed the Astros to trade Jordan Alvarez,
1:10:05
Speaker 9: which isn't happening now, and I'm not sure that guy
1:10:07
Speaker 9: is out there. It's just it's a very hard light
1:10:11
Speaker 9: up to crack like you look, Okay, Donovan's gonna come
1:10:13
Speaker 9: back at some point. It's probably got to play fair
1:10:15
Speaker 9: base even though it was terrible over there. Maybe Colt
1:10:18
Speaker 9: Emerson goes down. At that point, I thought we were
1:10:19
Speaker 9: gonna talk about Emerson today and a whole bunch of
1:10:21
Speaker 9: Emerson research.
1:10:24
Speaker 2: Well, well, no, no, stop right there, stop we got
1:10:26
Speaker 2: we got to commence. Let's just let's go down that
1:10:29
Speaker 2: road for seconds. We've had that conversation here. When Donovan
1:10:31
Speaker 2: does come back, what do you do with Donovan? And
1:10:33
Speaker 2: what do you do with I mean, you're not moving
1:10:34
Speaker 2: Cole Young and JP seems to be sitting there at
1:10:37
Speaker 2: third base, So what do you do with uh, what
1:10:39
Speaker 2: do you do with cold Emerson?
1:10:41
Speaker 9: I mean, both of them are problems at this point. Yeah,
1:10:44
Speaker 9: JP Crawford hitting two fifteen and you know, not really
1:10:47
Speaker 9: a droid. Jordon walks, which was pretty much at what
1:10:49
Speaker 9: he does. But if you look at Colt Emerson, you
1:10:51
Speaker 9: had a really good first thirteen games, came up to
1:10:53
Speaker 9: mid May through the end of the month, really good numbers,
1:10:56
Speaker 9: and since then fifty one to nine strike out to
1:10:59
Speaker 9: walk ratio strikeout rates and have just gotten out of control.
1:11:01
Speaker 9: And when you dig in under the hood, you find
1:11:03
Speaker 9: that he has one of the highest chase rates in
1:11:06
Speaker 9: the game. So he's not showing that play discipline that
1:11:09
Speaker 9: he did in those first two weeks. He also swings
1:11:12
Speaker 9: through more strikes than most hitters, so there's a lot
1:11:16
Speaker 9: of ways in which he's just not getting the back
1:11:17
Speaker 9: to the ball in productive ways. And you know, we
1:11:20
Speaker 9: got to take a step back. We're used to now
1:11:22
Speaker 9: rookie's coming up and nominated and even Emerson in those
1:11:25
Speaker 9: first couple of weeks, but he's twenty years old and
1:11:27
Speaker 9: right now he looks like a twenty year old doesn't
1:11:29
Speaker 9: have a ton of experience above a ball kind of
1:11:31
Speaker 9: getting worked. I don't. I would not have a problem.
1:11:35
Speaker 9: I love the guy I love as a player, and
1:11:37
Speaker 9: I would not have a problem with him being the
1:11:38
Speaker 9: guy who loses his job when Donovan comes back. Just
1:11:42
Speaker 9: because you're squeezed, you don't really know why you put guys,
1:11:45
Speaker 9: and Emerson really is hurting this team. Talk about the offense,
1:11:48
Speaker 9: I mean the bottom five offense over the last thirty days,
1:11:51
Speaker 9: and that's all the guys that we've talked about so far.
1:11:53
Speaker 9: It's just a whole bunch of guys not hitting. And
1:11:56
Speaker 9: it's not fair entirely to Emerson, but I think he's
1:11:59
Speaker 9: gonna have probably have to get the odd man out.
1:12:01
Speaker 2: Can Donovan play a corner outfield? Spot three or four
1:12:05
Speaker 2: times a week.
1:12:07
Speaker 9: Well, I mean I thought he could play third bass
1:12:09
Speaker 9: three or four times a week, and that didn't work out.
1:12:10
Speaker 9: But he did play more. That's the thing about when
1:12:13
Speaker 9: the third primn the third base, but he hadn't really
1:12:15
Speaker 9: played third base in the last three years. So I
1:12:17
Speaker 9: am a little terribly surprised the safe didn't work out. But yeah,
1:12:19
Speaker 9: you could stick him in a corner. I guess the
1:12:22
Speaker 9: problem is he didn't like. Okay, so you're benching Luc Raley,
1:12:27
Speaker 9: You're benching doll like. This isn't saying about the fifth
1:12:30
Speaker 9: You're not gonna sit a Rozarena. You're not gonna sit Robrigaez.
1:12:32
Speaker 9: So now you've got kids own Donovan and rarely for
1:12:35
Speaker 9: right field.
1:12:35
Speaker 2: DH roster just doesn't it doesn't. I think fit is
1:12:41
Speaker 2: the word you use it. I think it does.
1:12:43
Speaker 9: No, it fits fine if Cal Rowley's a one twenty
1:12:47
Speaker 9: ops plus guy and Josh Sayler is a one twenty
1:12:51
Speaker 9: ops plus guy, and Coulio Rodriguez is a one twenty
1:12:54
Speaker 9: ops plus guy. But now you can't take any of
1:12:56
Speaker 9: those guys out of the lineup. So now you're kind
1:12:58
Speaker 9: of okay, Well, where do we put another bad. I
1:13:02
Speaker 9: think it's an incredibly complicated puzzle for h for Jerry
1:13:05
Speaker 9: to figure out it. He's had a history Castillo, Grazerina Naylor,
1:13:11
Speaker 9: He's got a history of going on and making the
1:13:12
Speaker 9: move and the trade deadline. I just don't know what
1:13:14
Speaker 9: the move is with this team right now.
1:13:17
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1:15:05
Speaker 2: All right, I'm just gonna state the obvious here. It
1:15:10
Speaker 2: was not a very good week last week for ESPN.
1:15:14
Speaker 2: I think that's safe to say it. Really, Yeah, It's
1:15:17
Speaker 2: not a great week for them in any way, shape
1:15:19
Speaker 2: or form. So this was the latest little thing from
1:15:24
Speaker 2: ESPN that was quite sensational. All Star weekend for the
1:15:28
Speaker 2: WNBA ables last weekend, and for whatever reason, this league
1:15:34
Speaker 2: just I want to say, not only can they not
1:15:36
Speaker 2: get out of their own way, this league likes to
1:15:39
Speaker 2: eat its own like nothing I've ever seen. And at
1:15:42
Speaker 2: the top of the list is the Caitlin Clark hate.
1:15:44
Speaker 2: Now we know it comes from a lot of the players.
1:15:48
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty simple. There's I'll use one word
1:15:51
Speaker 2: to be jealousy. There's other things involved here, but we're
1:15:53
Speaker 2: not going to get into that here on this sports radio.
1:15:54
Speaker 3: I guess the overwhelming emotion is jealousy, yes, hie.
1:15:57
Speaker 2: Jealousy yeah, and then looking for other reasons not to
1:16:00
Speaker 2: not like her as opposed to other things. But post
1:16:04
Speaker 2: All Star weekend, ESPN analyst Monica McNutt, who also remember
1:16:10
Speaker 2: came under fire in the NBA Finals for saying some
1:16:12
Speaker 2: stupid stuff she was on with Malika Andrews, and she
1:16:18
Speaker 2: talked about Caitlin Clark and what her responsibility is and
1:16:23
Speaker 2: all the criticism.
1:16:24
Speaker 11: But in totality Monica, we don't often get to hear
1:16:26
Speaker 11: Caitlin Clark's perspective in quite this level of honesty.
1:16:29
Speaker 7: And this is an important conversation to continue to have
1:16:32
Speaker 7: with empathy for everybody involved.
1:16:33
Speaker 3: So listening to that, well, what was your reaction?
1:16:36
Speaker 11: I thought the choice the word of being fearful of
1:16:38
Speaker 11: the conversation after a game that she alluded to was
1:16:41
Speaker 11: interesting because oftentimes it seems, at least in the larger discourse,
1:16:45
Speaker 11: and not that it is not an emotional experience for
1:16:47
Speaker 11: Kayln Clarke, because I believe that it is. But it's
1:16:48
Speaker 11: the folks that are accused of doing something outside of
1:16:51
Speaker 11: the parameters of competition that are actually the ones that
1:16:53
Speaker 11: are fearful when you look at their social medias. This
1:16:54
Speaker 11: is what I will say. Kaylyn Clark is twenty four.
1:16:57
Speaker 11: She is a shining star in the galaxy of the WNBA.
1:17:00
Speaker 11: But I do think as she continues to matriculate through
1:17:02
Speaker 11: this league, there's room for a little bit more accountability
1:17:04
Speaker 11: and self awareness in terms of her role in the
1:17:07
Speaker 11: larger sisterhood if she sees it that way in the WNBA.
1:17:10
Speaker 11: But meleag I agree with her one hundred percent. It
1:17:12
Speaker 11: is certainly exhausting for all of us who really want
1:17:14
Speaker 11: to celebrate where this league is and the beautiful basketball
1:17:16
Speaker 11: that is being played. This larger discourse that can be
1:17:18
Speaker 11: very disappointing.
1:17:19
Speaker 2: So she is responsible for the choice of her words. Listen, like,
1:17:30
Speaker 2: even in a backhanded compliment, this woman criticizes, if we're
1:17:36
Speaker 2: being honest, the cash cow of the.
1:17:37
Speaker 3: League, yes, the superstars the league.
1:17:39
Speaker 2: Yes, And by no means is Caitlin Clark the only
1:17:45
Speaker 2: superstar or the only big name. But she's the biggest name,
1:17:50
Speaker 2: She's the biggest straw. It's really no. Asia Wilson is
1:17:55
Speaker 2: arguably over the last what three or four years, the
1:17:57
Speaker 2: best play in the league. What others have done, Brianna
1:18:03
Speaker 2: Stewart in her career phenomenal, you go back in time,
1:18:07
Speaker 2: the older generation, Ta Rossi and Bird and others certainly
1:18:11
Speaker 2: have their moments. Nobody, nobody has sold tickets, has drawn
1:18:19
Speaker 2: TV ratings like Caitlin Clark. Why is that? Well, we
1:18:24
Speaker 2: can point to certain things. Well, she's a white, heterosexual
1:18:27
Speaker 2: woman in a league that doesn't you know that has
1:18:30
Speaker 2: not a majority, but the majority of the players are black,
1:18:32
Speaker 2: and a lot of them are lesbians, and people maybe
1:18:36
Speaker 2: are turned off by that. If that's the case, then
1:18:38
Speaker 2: that's probably you probably you probably need to look in
1:18:40
Speaker 2: the mirror. But that's the reality. I look at it
1:18:44
Speaker 2: like this, Why is she such a draw? Well, I'm
1:18:46
Speaker 2: gonna go back to the days in college. This young
1:18:50
Speaker 2: lady from Iowa was knocking down three pointers from the
1:18:54
Speaker 2: flipp and logo man like she's doing Steph Curry things.
1:18:59
Speaker 2: Her ability to pass is massively underrated. Her finishing at
1:19:02
Speaker 2: the rim for someone her size is probably the best
1:19:05
Speaker 2: of the league. Angel Race can't finish anywhere, and yet
1:19:09
Speaker 2: is jealous of this lady like nobody's business. But I
1:19:12
Speaker 2: take I digress. Why is Caitlin Cark the draw that
1:19:15
Speaker 2: she is is because of how she played the game
1:19:17
Speaker 2: in Iowa and then she brought it to the WNBA.
1:19:20
Speaker 2: Stop blaming her. God is wrong with this league?
1:19:23
Speaker 3: Yeah?
1:19:24
Speaker 2: Like stop it? And and I just disagree so much
1:19:27
Speaker 2: with Dick Famous all any publicity. He's a good publicity.
1:19:29
Speaker 2: No it's not. It's a turn off right now. It's
1:19:31
Speaker 2: a turnoff. You're just turning people off and away from
1:19:35
Speaker 2: the league. And frankly, it's petty, it's juvenile, it's embarrassing,
1:19:41
Speaker 2: it's in some ways racist, it's a lot of things
1:19:46
Speaker 2: that none of them are positive. The way she plays
1:19:49
Speaker 2: the game is incredible, It's absolutely incredible. And there is
1:19:53
Speaker 2: no way in hell that this league right now is
1:19:57
Speaker 2: flying on a charter plane and having the salaries that
1:19:59
Speaker 2: they have as this year with a new collective argument
1:20:01
Speaker 2: if Caitlin Clark never existed. It's just there's just no way,
1:20:05
Speaker 2: right and and like they should be. It's the old
1:20:10
Speaker 2: it's Jack Nicholson and a few good men. You should
1:20:13
Speaker 2: be thanking me, Yeah, you should be thanking.
1:20:16
Speaker 3: I'd rather you just say thank you and.
1:20:18
Speaker 2: You just exactly I'm on the wall. You're yeah, yes,
1:20:23
Speaker 2: that's what it is. I'm just I cannot understand it.
1:20:27
Speaker 2: I don't get it. And except for I kind of do,
1:20:31
Speaker 2: I think we can all look and see the deeper issues.
1:20:32
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think a lot of the the pushback
1:20:36
Speaker 4: on the Caitlin Clark stardom comes from everyone ever usually
1:20:41
Speaker 4: said like they're one way of kind of countering that
1:20:44
Speaker 4: is saying, oh, but there's other bad there's other really
1:20:46
Speaker 4: good players and the Age Wilson point that you just
1:20:48
Speaker 4: put No one's saying that Caitlyn Clark's the best player
1:20:50
Speaker 4: in the league, but she's the most popular player in
1:20:52
Speaker 4: this league, biggest draw exactly.
1:20:54
Speaker 2: So raw that stop.
1:20:55
Speaker 4: Making that a conversation because it's that that doesn't matter.
1:20:58
Speaker 4: It's about embracing what makes your sport popular and making
1:21:01
Speaker 4: it better. And I think there can be some room
1:21:04
Speaker 4: for I don't want to say a villain story, but
1:21:06
Speaker 4: rooting against it's the Lebron James effect. Either you love
1:21:09
Speaker 4: Lebron James or you root against Lebron James. But there's
1:21:12
Speaker 4: no question that the NBA embraces Lebron James as one
1:21:15
Speaker 4: of its biggest stars uh and puts it in the
1:21:18
Speaker 4: biggest moments, and for it sometimes protects him with the
1:21:22
Speaker 4: whistle with refereeing, and that just happens. That's the superstar whistle.
1:21:26
Speaker 4: We've seen it all the time. But the way that
1:21:29
Speaker 4: the entire league has just shut down anything that has
1:21:33
Speaker 4: to do with Caitlin Clark is just it's mind boggling
1:21:35
Speaker 4: to me.
1:21:36
Speaker 2: Why do you think And I'll just say this, I'll
1:21:37
Speaker 2: wrap it up climate Pleasurie is gonna be full tonight.
1:21:40
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:21:41
Speaker 2: The team that the team that's the home team is
1:21:44
Speaker 2: the worst team in the NBAWNBA. Ain't nobody going to
1:21:46
Speaker 2: watch them? Right? And no one's going to watch them.
1:21:51
Speaker 2: That's not what they're doing. They're going they're not watching them,
1:21:53
Speaker 2: They're going to watch her. Yeah, and probably to a
1:21:55
Speaker 2: certain extent. Sophie. Yeah, right, I agree, Softie says Venu
1:21:59
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1:22:01
Speaker 2: We'll take a break, come back. John Lunn joins us,
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1:22:06
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Speaker 2: All right back here at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center.
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Speaker 2: Is day four for training camp. It is the final
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Speaker 2: day before they get a day off. We'll get a
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Speaker 2: day off tomorrow, Mike mcgott. I'll telling us yesterday that
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Speaker 2: tomorrow's day off will then be the day before they
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Speaker 2: put the pads on, which is coming up on Thursday,
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Speaker 2: first day of pats for the Seahawks. They'll be out here.
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Speaker 2: in just a second as well, So as soon as
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Speaker 2: who's coming out of the Bay Area in the division? Really,
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Speaker 2: I guess as well, Andrews would be the fact that
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Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan gotten that nasty car accident a week and
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Speaker 2: Ian all right. John Lond joined us right here on
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Speaker 2: the Beacon Plumbing Hotline as weekly visit all things NFC
1:24:44
Speaker 2: West and all things sports. Hello, sir, how are.
1:24:46
Speaker 10: You now that it is it is officially football season?
1:24:52
Speaker 10: I hope we are booming loud on speakers at the vMac.
1:24:55
Speaker 10: I officially hate you again, Seattle Seahawks fan.
1:24:58
Speaker 5: Your Super Bowl season is over.
1:25:00
Speaker 10: I hope you have many devastating injuries and losses. The
1:25:03
Speaker 10: twelve thing was stolen.
1:25:05
Speaker 5: From Texas A and M.
1:25:06
Speaker 10: And it's corny after all. Much rain to you what you.
1:25:12
Speaker 2: Did that? All that for nothing? We're not in speakers.
1:25:17
Speaker 3: Also, you're a closet Seahawks fan. We all know this.
1:25:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the other part of the equation here, felt.
1:25:22
Speaker 2: And by the way, you do you think Mike McDonald
1:25:27
Speaker 2: or any other coach would allow us to have speakers
1:25:30
Speaker 2: with sports radio blaring during a the NFL training camp,
1:25:35
Speaker 2: especially as the non flagship station like.
1:25:38
Speaker 5: True they do.
1:25:39
Speaker 10: That's pretty nice. I will say that is pretty nice
1:25:41
Speaker 10: because the Raiders had let us down on the field
1:25:43
Speaker 10: back in the day.
1:25:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Niners.
1:25:46
Speaker 10: Harbaugh, I told you this, Harbaugh sticks us back and
1:25:48
Speaker 10: then they just kept doing it. I was I was
1:25:51
Speaker 10: doing Erano in Phoenix, and they have.
1:25:53
Speaker 8: This great set up.
1:25:54
Speaker 10: Their team stinks, but they have this beautiful setup. I've
1:25:56
Speaker 10: been to their camp already because they start right early,
1:25:58
Speaker 10: because they start August sixth against Carolina and and all
1:26:02
Speaker 10: this kind of stuff. And they put you in a
1:26:03
Speaker 10: nice spot and that is the flag ship, but you're
1:26:05
Speaker 10: right as a non flagship. As the flagship, we got
1:26:07
Speaker 10: put in the kids where the kids go for the
1:26:10
Speaker 10: day of the game. They'd have to bring guys down there.
1:26:13
Speaker 10: It was like this romper room with like changing stage
1:26:15
Speaker 10: that's were the flagship of the Niners.
1:26:17
Speaker 5: And they're picking and basically like there's.
1:26:19
Speaker 10: Changing stations and and toys and toy boxes.
1:26:23
Speaker 2: And no TVs.
1:26:24
Speaker 8: I'm like, what is it with this?
1:26:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, professional, Our setup is sensational. Actually, we're at the
1:26:30
Speaker 2: We're in the I guess what would be the northeast
1:26:32
Speaker 2: corner right next right along the side of the building,
1:26:36
Speaker 2: and there's fans to our right, fans who are left
1:26:38
Speaker 2: up on the berm. The field is about the end
1:26:42
Speaker 2: of the end zone for one of the three fields
1:26:43
Speaker 2: is maybe fifteen twenty yards from them sitting right now,
1:26:48
Speaker 2: So not that is nice.
1:26:50
Speaker 8: They do it nice. Do they do a good very nice.
1:26:53
Speaker 2: We usually get a player on every day, we're gonna
1:26:55
Speaker 2: we didn't get that today, We're gonna get that coming
1:26:57
Speaker 2: up on Thursday, maybe even tomorrow as well, on the
1:26:59
Speaker 2: day off. We should be getting something a little bit later.
1:27:01
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a it's a very very good setup
1:27:03
Speaker 2: and uh not bad, not bad. You know what worst
1:27:06
Speaker 2: places to be one then on the and Lake Washington is.
1:27:10
Speaker 2: Lake Washington's about a seven iron from where I sit,
1:27:13
Speaker 2: a little breeze seven aron.
1:27:15
Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good.
1:27:17
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's it's like one hundred and thirty.
1:27:19
Speaker 2: I need to hit a seven iron that far. So
1:27:20
Speaker 2: you know, it's like I'm not let the guy. Those
1:27:23
Speaker 2: days are over. So all right, buddy, let's get let's
1:27:26
Speaker 2: get into it. What what the hell is going on
1:27:29
Speaker 2: with Kyle Shanahan.
1:27:32
Speaker 10: Well, from what I understand, uh, somebody told me this.
1:27:35
Speaker 10: Uh and Kyle did go public today with this, but
1:27:37
Speaker 10: I didn't know about this a little while back and.
1:27:39
Speaker 8: They're just like, no, it was.
1:27:40
Speaker 10: It's the weirdest thing ever because people knew people knew
1:27:44
Speaker 10: about it, but they weren't supposed to talk about it.
1:27:47
Speaker 10: And then so now that Kyle has kind of come
1:27:49
Speaker 10: out and said what the deal is. So apparently he
1:27:52
Speaker 10: was reaching for his phone and dropped his phone. He
1:27:56
Speaker 10: was reaching for his phone and and and he looked
1:27:59
Speaker 10: up and he was across the median and he hit
1:28:02
Speaker 10: a woman. And it was one hundred He came out
1:28:05
Speaker 10: today and said it was one hundred percent his fault.
1:28:07
Speaker 10: But you know, I can't remember a time he can.
1:28:09
Speaker 10: You can help me with this. I can't remember a
1:28:11
Speaker 10: time in which a coach. I mean, we're talking about
1:28:13
Speaker 10: forty stitches in the face. I've seen some pictures forty
1:28:15
Speaker 10: stitches in the pit in the face, a broken hand,
1:28:19
Speaker 10: three book, broken ribs. We all know if you've broken
1:28:21
Speaker 10: the ribs before. Man, it is brutal to have broken ribs.
1:28:23
Speaker 10: But he's got three broken ribs, a major concussion. He
1:28:27
Speaker 10: is out at camp, but he's in a he's way,
1:28:29
Speaker 10: way far away.
1:28:30
Speaker 8: From the action.
1:28:31
Speaker 10: So yeah, it's he's likely to be alive.
1:28:33
Speaker 5: Be honest with you, man, I mean everybody always says
1:28:36
Speaker 5: that you.
1:28:36
Speaker 10: Know, an inch this way and inch that way, But
1:28:38
Speaker 10: I mean he crossed the meeting and went head on,
1:28:40
Speaker 10: you know.
1:28:41
Speaker 2: I mean, let me let me just go with the
1:28:43
Speaker 2: story itself, because it's an interesting dynamic in today's NFL,
1:28:48
Speaker 2: where I mean, you can't do anything if you're yees like,
1:28:53
Speaker 2: you can't do anything in today's NFL without it being known.
1:28:57
Speaker 2: And it didn't come out until what about eight nine
1:29:00
Speaker 2: days after it happened? Like how does that? How does
1:29:04
Speaker 2: that occur?
1:29:05
Speaker 5: Like?
1:29:05
Speaker 2: How do they keep that thing covered happen? I mean,
1:29:07
Speaker 2: I understand the local guys, and I'll just say this
1:29:09
Speaker 2: with the local guys because you know, I know we're
1:29:11
Speaker 2: in it every day. When you're a local guy, there's
1:29:14
Speaker 2: sometimes there's sometimes things you see and you know that
1:29:18
Speaker 2: you're not a not allowed to talk about. Now car
1:29:20
Speaker 2: accident is something different, but you're just not allowed. It's
1:29:23
Speaker 2: just this, you know it. And there's a professional courtesy
1:29:25
Speaker 2: and kind of a give and take. Hey, I want
1:29:27
Speaker 2: to get a couple of good interviews. Are gonna help
1:29:28
Speaker 2: me out? You scratch my back, all scratch yours? The
1:29:31
Speaker 2: national guys, shefter rap you know those guys Garifolo, they
1:29:35
Speaker 2: don't have that type of how does nobody know about it?
1:29:38
Speaker 2: Report it?
1:29:39
Speaker 10: My my theory on it, and I don't know how
1:29:42
Speaker 10: how tight.
1:29:42
Speaker 5: It is with my theory on it, and you just
1:29:44
Speaker 5: hit it right.
1:29:44
Speaker 2: On the head.
1:29:45
Speaker 10: I know that people knew about it, and it doesn't
1:29:47
Speaker 10: make them bad reporters.
1:29:48
Speaker 8: They're not Shawan's, they're not schefter.
1:29:50
Speaker 10: They're yeah, they're paid to break football news.
1:29:53
Speaker 8: But there's a fine line. And you and I have
1:29:54
Speaker 8: both been there.
1:29:55
Speaker 10: I've seen things done, things been on team planes that
1:29:58
Speaker 10: I'm not saying anything about that, and you know, because
1:30:01
Speaker 10: it doesn't serve you any purpose. So you know, we've
1:30:04
Speaker 10: all done it as reporters over the years, but this
1:30:06
Speaker 10: is a major story. You would think that someone would
1:30:08
Speaker 10: break it. But the only theory I have is if
1:30:11
Speaker 10: they had been playing and you and I joke about
1:30:13
Speaker 10: this all the time, if they had been playing in
1:30:15
Speaker 10: San Francisco versus in Santa Clara.
1:30:18
Speaker 5: Santa Clara is a smaller.
1:30:19
Speaker 10: City, as you well know, and smaller police force, and
1:30:22
Speaker 10: you know, there may have been some things that get
1:30:24
Speaker 10: done there that.
1:30:25
Speaker 5: Like, hey, by the way, you know this happened, and
1:30:26
Speaker 5: maybe they.
1:30:27
Speaker 8: Don't get reported or something like that.
1:30:29
Speaker 10: And that's the only thing I can think of because
1:30:30
Speaker 10: this is all as you know, this is all public records.
1:30:33
Speaker 10: Anybody could have looked it up but nobody did. And
1:30:37
Speaker 10: there are so many people involved in this, from police
1:30:40
Speaker 10: to hospital people to like all these different people and
1:30:44
Speaker 10: reporters and all these things and reports.
1:30:47
Speaker 8: That are readily available.
1:30:48
Speaker 10: Publicly, and not one thing got out. Like it's one
1:30:52
Speaker 10: thing to keep it within an organization. There are certain
1:30:55
Speaker 10: organizations that are good and bad at that. The Niners
1:30:57
Speaker 10: happened to be really good at keeping it in.
1:30:59
Speaker 6: But this wasn't just.
1:31:00
Speaker 8: Forty nine ers.
1:31:00
Speaker 10: This was like a whole thing. But I don't think
1:31:03
Speaker 10: it could have happened if it was up in San Francisco.
1:31:05
Speaker 5: If you catch it, I'm laying down it's it was.
1:31:07
Speaker 8: It's Santa Clara.
1:31:08
Speaker 10: It's just a much smaller place and so it's a
1:31:10
Speaker 10: little bit tighter and you could maybe do that like
1:31:12
Speaker 10: you know, a Green Bay versus.
1:31:13
Speaker 8: An La or something.
1:31:13
Speaker 10: Santa Clara's not San Francisco, and it happened in Santa Clara,
1:31:17
Speaker 10: So I guess. But again having said that, like if
1:31:20
Speaker 10: this been had been a player and it had been
1:31:21
Speaker 10: domestic violence, I think it gets out right.
1:31:23
Speaker 8: You know, it's just it's weird.
1:31:24
Speaker 2: The whole thing is yeah, well, and you know, I
1:31:27
Speaker 2: mean it's just streams, are they covering something up. I
1:31:29
Speaker 2: think they said no, that he wasn't inebriate or anything
1:31:31
Speaker 2: like that. That's what they said, or the top psychology,
1:31:33
Speaker 2: what have you. So it's just a case of lesson learned,
1:31:37
Speaker 2: almost a tragic one at that that you know, we
1:31:39
Speaker 2: all done it. We've all reached for something or what
1:31:41
Speaker 2: have you and stuff, and it's what I guess in
1:31:44
Speaker 2: some ways it's the definition of wait for it, an accident, right,
1:31:47
Speaker 2: that's kind of what happened. It was an accident. But
1:31:50
Speaker 2: the football reality of it, John, is this. I mean,
1:31:52
Speaker 2: I'm sitting out here watching and I mean, you know
1:31:55
Speaker 2: as well as anybody, the grind of training camp is
1:31:58
Speaker 2: is something else, right, Like it's a it's the grind
1:32:02
Speaker 2: is severe. And when you're grinding, those coaches are grinding
1:32:07
Speaker 2: more than the players are. Like players are long gone,
1:32:09
Speaker 2: coaches are still here. And you know, especially as coach,
1:32:12
Speaker 2: that's a you know, I know, just watching how McDonald
1:32:14
Speaker 2: interacts and what he's doing. I mean, his days are
1:32:16
Speaker 2: you know, sixteen seventeen, eighteen hours. This time of the year,
1:32:20
Speaker 2: you're prepping for a season. You're evaluating, like a head coach,
1:32:24
Speaker 2: or evaluating tape of every position group every day along
1:32:27
Speaker 2: with the eleven on elevens and seven on sevens all
1:32:29
Speaker 2: that stuff. I'm not in Listen, I do not want
1:32:32
Speaker 2: to diminish the incident, and I'm not making light of
1:32:34
Speaker 2: it either. With the rivalry that does. This does not
1:32:37
Speaker 2: help the forty nine ers in terms of competitiveness this year.
1:32:40
Speaker 2: This is this is a setback for them.
1:32:42
Speaker 10: No, you're one hundred percent right in the way that
1:32:44
Speaker 10: Kyle coaches is the way that McVay coaches.
1:32:46
Speaker 5: McDonald coaches.
1:32:47
Speaker 8: They coach hard.
1:32:48
Speaker 10: Not that all coaches don't, but when you see Kyle
1:32:51
Speaker 10: out there, he's not just standing around walking around, you know,
1:32:54
Speaker 10: like that. He's He's in every aspect, especially offensively of
1:32:58
Speaker 10: this team.
1:32:59
Speaker 8: So yeah, it's it's a huge setback.
1:33:00
Speaker 10: I mean, he is, he is really hard, and I'm
1:33:03
Speaker 10: sure Mike McDonald's the same way. I've never seen Mike coach,
1:33:05
Speaker 10: but I've seen a lot of coaches in camps. Kyle
1:33:08
Speaker 10: is intense, and especially on the offensive side, where he's
1:33:11
Speaker 10: you know, he'll stop plays right in the middle. They'll
1:33:14
Speaker 10: have to run the same play four or five times
1:33:16
Speaker 10: to get to his satisfaction. He as you could imagine,
1:33:19
Speaker 10: demands a lot out of his players, out of his coaches,
1:33:22
Speaker 10: out of every single rep.
1:33:23
Speaker 8: Do it again, do it again, do it again.
1:33:25
Speaker 10: Like you said, he's a caught sleeping kind of a
1:33:27
Speaker 10: guy that basically, and he's told us this and it's
1:33:29
Speaker 10: in his DNA. I mean, we all he has dad
1:33:31
Speaker 10: and Mike all that it's his whole life, football his
1:33:33
Speaker 10: whole life. And he tells his wife and he famously
1:33:35
Speaker 10: has said this until is his wife that you know,
1:33:38
Speaker 10: once camp starts, he tells him goodbye, Like you know,
1:33:41
Speaker 10: it's like sorry, he's that guy, you know. And like
1:33:44
Speaker 10: I said, I'm not downgrading any coach that it isn't
1:33:46
Speaker 10: but he's about as intense as a get so for him,
1:33:49
Speaker 10: like you said, to be missing this and it's it's
1:33:51
Speaker 10: really mandated by the medical staff. They don't want him
1:33:54
Speaker 10: out there right now because it's like you said, it's
1:33:57
Speaker 10: not a joke, man, and you know it's he said.
1:33:59
Speaker 5: He didn't lose consess or anything like that.
1:34:01
Speaker 10: But I've got a concussion. I'm sure you have. I
1:34:03
Speaker 10: mean a lot of people out there listening plus cracked
1:34:06
Speaker 10: ribs where you can't laugh, you.
1:34:07
Speaker 8: Can't sneeze, you can't I mean the hell if you sneeze.
1:34:09
Speaker 8: I mean, it's just oh so.
1:34:11
Speaker 5: I mean he's in some you know, I mean, dude,
1:34:13
Speaker 5: because I'm an idiot.
1:34:14
Speaker 10: I cracked ribs skiing and it's like, if you're gonna
1:34:17
Speaker 10: sneeze cough laugh, it's like it's bad. And so he's
1:34:20
Speaker 10: in some major pain. But the major part is the concussion.
1:34:23
Speaker 10: And as you know, you know, it's you know, it's
1:34:26
Speaker 10: hot out there. They're out there a long time. But
1:34:27
Speaker 10: it's also the grind of once you get inside and
1:34:30
Speaker 10: you're you know, you're talking about things and you're evaluating players.
1:34:32
Speaker 8: I mean, this is this is the most intense time.
1:34:36
Speaker 10: Of the year training camp, and for him to be
1:34:38
Speaker 10: missing it, you're right on You're right on point there.
1:34:40
Speaker 2: Man.
1:34:40
Speaker 10: This is valuable time that he's missing, and it does
1:34:42
Speaker 10: not help John.
1:34:43
Speaker 2: Lon joining us. All right, Migue, I'm gonna stay with
1:34:45
Speaker 2: the NFL for one more thing. I want to get
1:34:46
Speaker 2: to a little bit of NBA question forty in a second.
1:34:48
Speaker 2: Let's let's just stay in the NFL for a heartbeat
1:34:50
Speaker 2: for a moment. What do you this is the Aaron
1:34:54
Speaker 2: Donald's stuff. What are we doing here?
1:34:56
Speaker 5: Like?
1:34:56
Speaker 2: What are we doing?
1:34:57
Speaker 12: Bay?
1:34:58
Speaker 5: I just saw it. Did you see that press conversation today?
1:35:00
Speaker 10: Yes, God, it's like Lebron all over again.
1:35:03
Speaker 8: Like dude, just like God, just such the cameras and
1:35:06
Speaker 8: the hole nine.
1:35:07
Speaker 5: You know, it's just like God, is he isn't he?
1:35:10
Speaker 10: Like at this point, I mean, I'm just I'm not
1:35:13
Speaker 10: a McVay guy. And it's not because they win, you know,
1:35:16
Speaker 10: most people are jealous of winning or whatever at whatever
1:35:18
Speaker 10: the Rams win, they lose whatever they do. But it's
1:35:20
Speaker 10: just like, man, he loves be in center of the universe.
1:35:23
Speaker 10: And so they asked him just point blank like is
1:35:25
Speaker 10: he you know, is he doing this?
1:35:27
Speaker 8: He's doing that? And again go back to coaches.
1:35:29
Speaker 10: McDonald is extremely I'm sure detailed in what he does
1:35:33
Speaker 10: all the all the successful coaches are.
1:35:35
Speaker 8: So McVeigh was asked the question.
1:35:36
Speaker 10: Point blank, is Aaron Donald working out at the facility?
1:35:40
Speaker 10: And he says, well, I'm not at the facility.
1:35:41
Speaker 5: I don't know, And the guy goes.
1:35:44
Speaker 2: They don't have their training camp there, right, they don't
1:35:46
Speaker 2: have their training camp there.
1:35:47
Speaker 10: But it doesn't you don't think Sean mcmay knows if
1:35:50
Speaker 10: Aaron Donald's in the damn building like where Aaron He's
1:35:53
Speaker 10: probably got a tracker on his car. He probably went
1:35:55
Speaker 10: over to his house and put in surgically put a
1:35:57
Speaker 10: tracker on h while the guy slept.
1:35:59
Speaker 5: I mean, it's like mcda is detail oriented and.
1:36:02
Speaker 10: It's just man, we're just trying to do our job,
1:36:04
Speaker 10: Like you have to really give us, give us the
1:36:06
Speaker 10: lebron run around here.
1:36:07
Speaker 2: You know, well they know, like they know, like like
1:36:12
Speaker 2: less Need and Sean McVay know, they know if it's
1:36:15
Speaker 2: a yes or like, and.
1:36:17
Speaker 8: They know they have to know. They have to tell
1:36:19
Speaker 8: it right.
1:36:20
Speaker 10: They have to tell Aaron Donald, look, are you coming.
1:36:22
Speaker 3: Back or not?
1:36:22
Speaker 5: Because we got to make a different kind of.
1:36:24
Speaker 10: A plan if you're not. You know, he's one of
1:36:26
Speaker 10: the He's as far as me being alive. And that's
1:36:29
Speaker 10: why I don't like all these debates about who's the
1:36:30
Speaker 10: greatest this or that. I just know, for the guys
1:36:33
Speaker 10: I saw since I've been alive, Lawrence Taylor's won.
1:36:36
Speaker 8: And Aaron Donald's two. I mean, there's a lot of
1:36:38
Speaker 8: other good.
1:36:38
Speaker 10: Ones, and I don't do Mount Rushmore's and lists. I
1:36:40
Speaker 10: don't care, but it just me being alive. Aaron Donald's
1:36:44
Speaker 10: in the top two. I mean, so you're telling me
1:36:48
Speaker 10: that I don't care that he's been out two years
1:36:50
Speaker 10: that you're not you don't know if one of the
1:36:52
Speaker 10: top best defensive players of all time is coming back.
1:36:56
Speaker 10: I'm not buying that for a second. But he loves
1:36:58
Speaker 10: milking the attention.
1:37:00
Speaker 2: Oh there's no doubt. I mean, because he can just
1:37:02
Speaker 2: shut it down one way or the other. I I
1:37:05
Speaker 2: And here's the thing, even if he's not coming back,
1:37:07
Speaker 2: they're not gonna shut it down. They're gonna play mind
1:37:09
Speaker 2: games with everybody else, right, that's what they're gonna do.
1:37:11
Speaker 10: Right.
1:37:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, he may like he may have said, listen, I
1:37:17
Speaker 2: thought about it. Just it's not happening. He's never gonna
1:37:19
Speaker 2: say that, like not not not initially. You're gonna let
1:37:22
Speaker 2: everybody mess around for a while and go down that road.
1:37:25
Speaker 2: I think one of the things I wonder is I
1:37:28
Speaker 2: wonder if they work him out, like like quietly in
1:37:31
Speaker 2: the facility, because it's one thing to be in la
1:37:34
Speaker 2: fitness shape. And I know that everyone talks about how
1:37:36
Speaker 2: great he is and what he's doing and all these things,
1:37:38
Speaker 2: and you know he's he's but his football shape is different.
1:37:41
Speaker 2: Like every player out here. We talked to every player
1:37:44
Speaker 2: out here that we talked to will tell you that
1:37:45
Speaker 2: it's it's a different deal now. Quote if anybody could
1:37:48
Speaker 2: do it to be Aaron Donald. Of course he's also
1:37:49
Speaker 2: thirty five. Like he's also thirty five. And yeah, I
1:37:55
Speaker 2: don't know. I I think I'm I'll be honest with you,
1:37:58
Speaker 2: I'm less concerned about Aaron Donald, you know out here
1:38:00
Speaker 2: in Seattle that I am about Miles Garrett, like if
1:38:04
Speaker 2: about far like right, like like that's just whatever. If
1:38:07
Speaker 2: he's back, he's back, it's fine, do your thing. He's
1:38:10
Speaker 2: gonna play, you know, twenty snaps a game and Seattle
1:38:12
Speaker 2: doesn't see him ntil November or December. I guess I
1:38:14
Speaker 2: think it's December. It's like the final like two of
1:38:16
Speaker 2: the final three games or something. Yeah, so it's like
1:38:18
Speaker 2: hell by then, who knows, right, who knows what's going on?
1:38:22
Speaker 2: You mentioned Lebron. I got to ask you, Uh, with
1:38:25
Speaker 2: the Warriors, did Stephen Draymond Raymond just sign a one
1:38:29
Speaker 2: year deal? I guess did they think that Lebron might
1:38:31
Speaker 2: have got was maybe gonna go there.
1:38:34
Speaker 10: No. I mean they know him well enough that I
1:38:37
Speaker 10: think they knew long before we did that he wasn't
1:38:39
Speaker 10: gonna go there. Yeah, so you know, but that thank god,
1:38:45
Speaker 10: Seattle's not in the NBA yet. I mean, it's just
1:38:48
Speaker 10: this whole thing with Lebron was so nauseating, just so nauseating,
1:38:52
Speaker 10: and I don't know how much people kept on it
1:38:54
Speaker 10: because it's not an NBA city will be shortly but
1:38:57
Speaker 10: it's not.
1:38:58
Speaker 8: But it's like the guy got.
1:39:00
Speaker 10: Mad at the commissioner for publicly saying in New York
1:39:02
Speaker 10: last week that hey man, we just need an answer
1:39:04
Speaker 10: because you're holding up the schedule. And then he got
1:39:06
Speaker 10: upset because the commissioner said that, and so.
1:39:08
Speaker 8: He delayed it another week.
1:39:10
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:39:10
Speaker 5: I mean, this is the kind of garbage that we're
1:39:12
Speaker 5: dealing with.
1:39:13
Speaker 10: And there's no other sport that's like that right now,
1:39:16
Speaker 10: and I don't know why.
1:39:18
Speaker 5: And look, I'll give.
1:39:19
Speaker 10: Lebron a ton of credit because he's been in the
1:39:21
Speaker 10: spotlight since he's been seventeen and maybe the worst thing
1:39:24
Speaker 10: he ever did was I'm taking my talents too, when
1:39:26
Speaker 10: he did that with Jim Gray. That's his major transgression.
1:39:29
Speaker 10: I mean, he's annoying. For the crown on his head and.
1:39:31
Speaker 5: Taco to and all these other things that he does
1:39:32
Speaker 5: are annoying.
1:39:33
Speaker 10: They're not illegal, and he hasn't done anything wrong, but
1:39:36
Speaker 10: there's just something about him, you know, there's just something
1:39:39
Speaker 10: that it's just I came and put my finger, but
1:39:41
Speaker 10: it's just and it's just this generation of players and
1:39:46
Speaker 10: it just seems like every other sport has it under control.
1:39:50
Speaker 10: And it's like these guys in the NBA and especially
1:39:52
Speaker 10: Lebron leading the way. It's like, I just don't feel
1:39:55
Speaker 10: about him that I do about all the other eras
1:39:59
Speaker 10: of players who were great players. He just does so
1:40:01
Speaker 10: many things that are just one, two, three meters. And
1:40:04
Speaker 10: I get it, we're all a brand now.
1:40:05
Speaker 5: I understand all those things.
1:40:07
Speaker 10: But it's just like, come on, man, and I give
1:40:10
Speaker 10: it up to Barkley. It's like, you're going to Philly, Dude.
1:40:12
Speaker 5: You're like one of the best players of all time.
1:40:14
Speaker 10: You know he can do what he wants you do you,
1:40:16
Speaker 10: But man, that's just like, I mean, is that just
1:40:18
Speaker 10: the ultimate? Like and he's gonna by the way, he's
1:40:21
Speaker 10: gonna live in New York in helicopter to Philadelphia.
1:40:24
Speaker 2: Yes, wow, Yeah.
1:40:26
Speaker 5: That's gonna work well in Philly.
1:40:27
Speaker 10: When they go through like a three game losing streak,
1:40:29
Speaker 10: that's gonna work well.
1:40:30
Speaker 2: Well. It's actually that works out. Well. Here we have
1:40:34
Speaker 2: a police chief that lives in Chicago, you know, in Seattle,
1:40:38
Speaker 2: Like our police chief lives in Seattle in Chicago and
1:40:42
Speaker 2: is gone almost all the time. And then we had
1:40:43
Speaker 2: a mass shooting and he's mad at reporters for asking
1:40:46
Speaker 2: about why he lives in Chicago. So I'm sure Philly
1:40:48
Speaker 2: will handle it well. Like you said, when they go
1:40:49
Speaker 2: to a three game losing streak, I mean, hey, imagine this,
1:40:54
Speaker 2: because she's in town tonight. They the Indiana fever in
1:40:57
Speaker 2: town tonight. Can you imagine if Caitlin clar Ever hit
1:41:00
Speaker 2: free agency. I don't know how that works in the league,
1:41:02
Speaker 2: but like see, let's say Kaitlyn, it's a free agency
1:41:05
Speaker 2: and she says, yeah, I'm not sure what I'm doing.
1:41:08
Speaker 2: I know, I know we're a month into free agency.
1:41:09
Speaker 2: I may go back to Indiana. I may go to
1:41:11
Speaker 2: the New York Liberty. I may go to the Seattle
1:41:13
Speaker 2: Storm or the Golden State, whatever the hell they're called.
1:41:16
Speaker 2: I may do that, but I don't know I'm gonna.
1:41:19
Speaker 2: I'm gonna because here's a funny thing. She's the one
1:41:22
Speaker 2: that could hold a league hostage, Like like I know
1:41:26
Speaker 2: that I know Angel and company don't like, don't want
1:41:28
Speaker 2: to hear this. But the reality is Caitlin Clark, the
1:41:34
Speaker 2: networks would wait untill the until she saw it, Like
1:41:36
Speaker 2: they would be like, yeah, man, just you take your time, Caitlin.
1:41:38
Speaker 2: I know everybody else hates you, but you just take
1:41:40
Speaker 2: your time. Because she does move to needle. I don't.
1:41:43
Speaker 2: I don't know how much Lebron moves the needle anymore, John,
1:41:45
Speaker 2: I really don't.
1:41:46
Speaker 10: Well, that's the whole thing is you're getting the name
1:41:48
Speaker 10: of Lebron James or if you're Philadelphia, but you're not getting
1:41:50
Speaker 10: the player.
1:41:51
Speaker 8: And that's where everybody gets confused.
1:41:52
Speaker 2: In the media is.
1:41:53
Speaker 10: Oh my god, and they think it's what We've had
1:41:55
Speaker 10: this conversation. You know how many times it's the great
1:41:57
Speaker 10: Bob wits it and thought it was fantasy basketball and
1:41:59
Speaker 10: he got all these players together and he thought, oh,
1:42:01
Speaker 10: that's right.
1:42:02
Speaker 6: It's not.
1:42:03
Speaker 10: There's chemistry involved, and there's fall you know, who's gonna
1:42:05
Speaker 10: handle le ball. He's gonna all these things. He's he's
1:42:08
Speaker 10: Lebron James in name, he's not Lebron jameson player.
1:42:10
Speaker 5: And again, I respect the hell out of the guy.
1:42:12
Speaker 8: He's one of the best.
1:42:13
Speaker 10: Players ever played the game, there is no doubt and
1:42:15
Speaker 10: in the era that social media is so difficult to
1:42:18
Speaker 10: deal with.
1:42:18
Speaker 5: And we were just talking about Kyle Shannan getting that.
1:42:20
Speaker 10: Accident, like it's it's really hard to stay out on
1:42:22
Speaker 10: the spotlight. He's done a really nice job of it,
1:42:24
Speaker 10: and he's won.
1:42:25
Speaker 8: Multiple championships, but it's just this type of stuff where
1:42:28
Speaker 8: he's like he's holding.
1:42:29
Speaker 10: The league hostage. Just make a damn decision. But he
1:42:34
Speaker 10: loves it. He just loves all of this. He loved
1:42:36
Speaker 10: New York that they had the fanatics thing, and he
1:42:38
Speaker 10: could go place to place to place, and he was
1:42:40
Speaker 10: the center of attention to where he was going to go,
1:42:43
Speaker 10: and he knew weeks ago where he was going to go.
1:42:45
Speaker 10: But you know, he just it just has to be
1:42:47
Speaker 10: drawn out and it has to be his ego on
1:42:48
Speaker 10: his time, and you know, and he's the king, and
1:42:51
Speaker 10: it's like there's no other Honestly, there's no other athlete
1:42:53
Speaker 10: I can think of in history that would have done that.
1:42:56
Speaker 10: By the way, it's just annoying to everybody.
1:42:59
Speaker 2: I got to read it tech to you. You like this.
1:43:01
Speaker 2: Uh you were talking about McVeigh being the center of attention. Uh,
1:43:05
Speaker 2: four two five. Ian McVeigh didn't want to be the
1:43:07
Speaker 2: center of attention during the Sina room. Diana Rossini rumors.
1:43:18
Speaker 10: Yeah, they all turned into Sammy.
1:43:22
Speaker 2: That is so good. That is so good, Like that
1:43:25
Speaker 2: is so good, like yeah, you're right, you're right, like
1:43:30
Speaker 2: she did not want that. No, No, I got one
1:43:32
Speaker 2: more for you. I'm not I'm not usually reading the text,
1:43:34
Speaker 2: but people like you for some reason, they send them
1:43:36
Speaker 2: in here. I remember that I mentioned so my old
1:43:42
Speaker 2: co host when I first got here, at least would work.
1:43:44
Speaker 2: Just got named the new voice of a Husky.
1:43:46
Speaker 5: I heard you earlier. I was getting into your show,
1:43:50
Speaker 5: got stuck.
1:43:50
Speaker 8: I wasn't trying to listen to your show.
1:43:52
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure I heard that.
1:43:53
Speaker 2: I'm sure that was the case. I mentioned that I'm
1:43:56
Speaker 2: a star maker because I can go through the list
1:43:57
Speaker 2: of people Chris haynes I started to help start his
1:44:00
Speaker 2: career NBA Insider. Let's see Diana Russini. We worked with
1:44:04
Speaker 2: her before she went to ESPN. Uh was a long list.
1:44:08
Speaker 2: There's a long list. And I said, I'm just I'm
1:44:11
Speaker 2: a star maker. And two o six is Ian. If
1:44:13
Speaker 2: you're such the star maker for your colleagues. What happened
1:44:15
Speaker 2: with one? That's a good question question.
1:44:18
Speaker 5: I actually went the other way.
1:44:21
Speaker 10: I went the other way. Yeah, believe me, there's nobody
1:44:27
Speaker 10: who can help me, you know.
1:44:29
Speaker 2: And I heard I heard and there, I heard you
1:44:33
Speaker 2: chirp in there. You're fine, but you're a lot better.
1:44:38
Speaker 2: He was the voice of one hundred stations across the
1:44:40
Speaker 2: country for soccer from FIFA on on the one hundred stations?
1:44:45
Speaker 2: Was it one hundred? Okay, So feel fear to apologize
1:44:49
Speaker 2: to Ian for that one. Feel free apologize.
1:44:52
Speaker 10: Not every tree is perfect. I mean Belichick's tree is
1:44:55
Speaker 10: not perfect.
1:44:55
Speaker 8: Josh McDaniel never worked out.
1:44:56
Speaker 5: I mean you get exceptions, and you know, is not a.
1:45:02
Speaker 8: Good head coach.
1:45:03
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:45:03
Speaker 10: Hey, by the way, speaking of the soccer guy, I
1:45:06
Speaker 10: mean everybody up there knows this, but you know, John
1:45:09
Speaker 10: Strong worked in Portland and.
1:45:10
Speaker 5: I worked with Strong for just a period of time.
1:45:12
Speaker 8: And I'm not saying anything. We hated each other. I
1:45:15
Speaker 8: oh really John Strong.
1:45:17
Speaker 10: Oh he was this arrogance, you know, ah Hall soccer
1:45:20
Speaker 10: And I was like, get out of here, man, you're moron.
1:45:23
Speaker 8: And now you know, now I'm like.
1:45:25
Speaker 5: Oh, this guy, we work together. He's the greatest.
1:45:27
Speaker 3: That's what I.
1:45:29
Speaker 10: Oh, George, when we were playing highlights on west Woodwater Oh,
1:45:32
Speaker 10: John Strong, him and I are closed.
1:45:34
Speaker 8: I launched his career, I'll tell you.
1:45:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, he hated me.
1:45:38
Speaker 8: I was way too low brow for him, way.
1:45:41
Speaker 2: Too Now the guy's making a million yere. He was
1:45:43
Speaker 2: Canzano's producer for a while.
1:45:46
Speaker 10: I was doing drive time up there and he was
1:45:51
Speaker 10: doing Middays and he was Gonzano's producer, and I would
1:45:54
Speaker 10: just I would say, you know, crappy stuff about their
1:45:57
Speaker 10: show all the time, and me and Canzana were good.
1:45:59
Speaker 8: But I was joking and he just you know, he
1:46:01
Speaker 8: thought you. I mean, he's right.
1:46:02
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I'm the low brow type.
1:46:04
Speaker 8: You know, I'm chopped livery. He's you know, he's private.
1:46:08
Speaker 3: As soccer people sometimes it's alright, no.
1:46:10
Speaker 8: He I gotta admit it.
1:46:12
Speaker 5: He's really good.
1:46:12
Speaker 8: I mean he was just the Timbers guy.
1:46:14
Speaker 10: I'm like, he was this punk, he's not gonna do anything.
1:46:17
Speaker 2: Hey, somebody from the Timbers, right, Andrews had to have
1:46:19
Speaker 2: some successful.
1:46:21
Speaker 4: You know, I learned anything from that. It's once you
1:46:24
Speaker 4: leave Portland is when you have success. So that's true.
1:46:26
Speaker 1: Act, that's yeah.
1:46:30
Speaker 10: He's part of my tree, that guy.
1:46:32
Speaker 2: But hey, are you by the way you're keeping track
1:46:34
Speaker 2: of are you?
1:46:36
Speaker 10: Wow?
1:46:36
Speaker 2: Look at this guy bringing me some food? How about
1:46:38
Speaker 2: how nice are you? My man? People bringing me food here? Lined?
1:46:41
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable of these guys that never happens. It's cy
1:46:45
Speaker 2: nice the h are you? I gotta go, I gotta
1:46:50
Speaker 2: get a break here. But the funny thing is sure
1:46:52
Speaker 2: there was just an interception in the pick sick sort
1:46:54
Speaker 2: of you know, in it's seven on seven drill piece
1:46:56
Speaker 2: of places going nuts. Yeah, I'm just thinking of all
1:46:59
Speaker 2: the beat guys right now that are like keeping track
1:47:01
Speaker 2: of the numbers.
1:47:02
Speaker 10: Oh you know what I did? That's Oh well, what's
1:47:10
Speaker 10: so great about doing radio down here in Arizona is
1:47:12
Speaker 10: nobody's heard my bits.
1:47:13
Speaker 8: And I've done this for years.
1:47:14
Speaker 10: And I know you and I both have nothing matters
1:47:18
Speaker 10: that training camp access or injury. So I did that
1:47:20
Speaker 10: rant yesterday and I ranted about about UH camp numbers.
1:47:25
Speaker 5: And it's funny.
1:47:25
Speaker 10: One of my favorite people whose name is Nick Wagner.
1:47:27
Speaker 10: He does ESPN, he does not your ESPN, and he
1:47:30
Speaker 10: had camp numbers today and I emailed him like and
1:47:33
Speaker 10: I couldn't read this on your show, Like you moron,
1:47:35
Speaker 10: why don't you take a stand, take a stand for
1:47:37
Speaker 10: no camp numbers?
1:47:39
Speaker 5: You know, be that guy. Maybe you can make it
1:47:41
Speaker 5: go the other way.
1:47:41
Speaker 8: And he just laughed about the whole day.
1:47:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, camp numbers are.
1:47:43
Speaker 8: The dumbest thing. I think.
1:47:44
Speaker 10: Brock Perty went seven for eleven today. But he did
1:47:47
Speaker 10: throw he did throw a pick six at him trying
1:47:49
Speaker 10: to think who it was.
1:47:49
Speaker 5: But I was just like, oh.
1:47:50
Speaker 4: My god, isn't every pause.
1:47:54
Speaker 8: Catch camp.
1:47:56
Speaker 2: Every pick falls down?
1:47:58
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's funny because yeah, and the thing that's so
1:48:03
Speaker 10: funny is that, like people who don't go to camp,
1:48:05
Speaker 10: it's like the offense is supposed to keep it together.
1:48:07
Speaker 10: The defensive coordinator just goes bonkers. And so every time
1:48:11
Speaker 10: the defense does something, the defensive coordinators out on the field,
1:48:13
Speaker 10: he's jumping up and down.
1:48:14
Speaker 8: The players are freaking. That's why there's camp fights.
1:48:17
Speaker 10: The defense gets have fun and the offense, you know,
1:48:20
Speaker 10: gets screamed at all the time.
1:48:22
Speaker 2: All right, buddy, I gotta go. My producer is really
1:48:25
Speaker 2: good on like John Strong. He tell me I gotta
1:48:26
Speaker 2: break and I'm late, so I gotta do that. So
1:48:29
Speaker 2: I'll I'll talk to you next week. My friends, see
1:48:32
Speaker 2: you see you guys. That's that's John Line. We'll take
1:48:35
Speaker 2: a break. We'll just come back and check your text next.
1:48:40
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1:48:57
Speaker 13: Hey Dan Wilson here, you know, tough game the other day,
1:49:00
Speaker 13: you know, fought hard and you.
1:49:02
Speaker 12: Know, just some tough breaks for the guys. You know,
1:49:04
Speaker 12: fought hard though, you know, and.
1:49:06
Speaker 13: Good news Kali didn't strike out, although he didn't play.
1:49:08
Speaker 13: Analytics told me that, you know, but he fought hard.
1:49:11
Speaker 13: He fought hard on the bench, you know. More Analytics
1:49:13
Speaker 13: told me that as well, how hard he fought.
1:49:14
Speaker 2: You know.
1:49:15
Speaker 12: He's our leader, you know, and we'll just keep you knowing.
1:49:17
Speaker 2: We'll keep fighting.
1:49:18
Speaker 8: We'll keep fighting, We'll keep you.
1:49:19
Speaker 12: Knowing, you know, and that's just what we're gonna do.
1:49:22
Speaker 12: You know. I'm fully confident in this team and we'll
1:49:24
Speaker 12: get back after it.
1:49:26
Speaker 2: Oh God, that's good. By the way, somebody got to him.
1:49:30
Speaker 2: And yeah, because he's he he has tried to avoid
1:49:34
Speaker 2: saying tough ones. Yeah, it's it's because it becomes such
1:49:39
Speaker 2: a kind of a running joke, and he hasn't said
1:49:42
Speaker 2: the last couple of longs.
1:49:43
Speaker 4: Someone has mentioned that because it was a thing for
1:49:45
Speaker 4: a while on social media.
1:49:46
Speaker 2: It was a very big thing, and he's he've been
1:49:48
Speaker 2: very careful about avoiding that long way. All right, next one,
1:49:51
Speaker 2: what he got?
1:49:52
Speaker 14: Hey, Ian Seattle Sports guy. I want to talk about
1:49:55
Speaker 14: the launch of our new podcast with our first guest,
1:49:58
Speaker 14: Sarah Spain and my A mcnuts. We're gonna talk about
1:50:02
Speaker 14: their hate for Caitlyn Clark, anything negative that comes to mind,
1:50:05
Speaker 14: and anything that they dislike about men at all.
1:50:09
Speaker 12: Tune in right away.
1:50:10
Speaker 9: Also, tune in tomorrow.
1:50:11
Speaker 14: Where our guests will be JP Crawford and we'll talk
1:50:14
Speaker 14: about why he's allowed to wear a glove and field anything,
1:50:17
Speaker 14: why he continuously is put in the lineup, and why
1:50:20
Speaker 14: he's the untouchable Mariner.
1:50:25
Speaker 2: I like that one.
1:50:28
Speaker 3: I thought you would so much hate. I know this world.
1:50:31
Speaker 2: I'm curious, God, I think that I'm curious tonight the game,
1:50:37
Speaker 2: the like, what the crowd's like. I think store fans
1:50:40
Speaker 2: are really good. Yeah, hard because I do believe that
1:50:43
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark plays like I remember, I'll never forget this.
1:50:46
Speaker 2: Britney broker Staff said this years and years ago. This
1:50:48
Speaker 2: is how old Ama was getting a sound bite with
1:50:50
Speaker 2: him after a game for Clomo TV when Michael Jordan
1:50:53
Speaker 2: was fairly early in his career, and he says, man,
1:50:55
Speaker 2: it's hard, this guy never plays a road game talking
1:50:57
Speaker 2: about Mike. Yeah, and I Caitlin's probably like that in
1:51:02
Speaker 2: some ways too. Yeah, I think so, too, right, But
1:51:04
Speaker 2: I think Storm fans as will die hard. There's enough
1:51:06
Speaker 2: banners hanging up there there for sure. Tradition to this rot,
1:51:08
Speaker 2: the tradition of this franchise is different than a lot and.
1:51:11
Speaker 4: Not playing into the maybe not into the Caitlin Clark hate,
1:51:14
Speaker 4: but the fact that you can root against her pretty easily, right.
1:51:16
Speaker 2: A lot of people like Sophie too, Sophie all right.
1:51:19
Speaker 15: Next on great point anders on Mike McDonald's OC Pete
1:51:25
Speaker 15: Carroll in all his years never ever had an offensive
1:51:29
Speaker 15: coordinator go to head coach. Shot He's now a head coach.
1:51:33
Speaker 15: But Pete Carroll had nothing to do with Shotty become
1:51:36
Speaker 15: the head coach. Shotty did on.
1:51:37
Speaker 10: All on his own.
1:51:38
Speaker 15: Good for him, but yeah, Mike McDonald is gonna be great.
1:51:43
Speaker 15: I can see him churning out I don't know, five
1:51:46
Speaker 15: or six head coaches at offensive coordinators and depends the
1:51:49
Speaker 15: coordinators in the next ten years.
1:51:53
Speaker 2: I hope that's let's hope. Yeah. I mean it'd be
1:51:56
Speaker 2: good and bad. It'd be good because I mean, you
1:51:59
Speaker 2: have grat six right right. It's bad because you have
1:52:02
Speaker 2: no continuity.
1:52:03
Speaker 16: Right uh?
1:52:03
Speaker 3: Ian, I do have some breaking news.
1:52:05
Speaker 2: What do you got?
1:52:07
Speaker 3: Sources?
1:52:08
Speaker 4: This is according to Adam Schefter, Browns and five time
1:52:12
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl corner cornerback Denzel Ward have a greach to
1:52:14
Speaker 4: agreement on a two year, sixty two point two million.
1:52:17
Speaker 2: Dollar deal two for sixty two.
1:52:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that makes him thirty one point one million
1:52:22
Speaker 4: dollars a year. I think Devin Witherspoon's price just went up.
1:52:26
Speaker 2: God, that's like Schneider's. I think he's on the field,
1:52:30
Speaker 2: Like I just saw him the field here a minute ago. Yeah,
1:52:33
Speaker 2: he's like.
1:52:33
Speaker 3: All hang on the side, Branton. That's only a two
1:52:36
Speaker 3: year deal for Denzel Ward.
1:52:38
Speaker 4: So maybe it might change things a little bit because
1:52:40
Speaker 4: you usually with these players that like they can negotiate
1:52:43
Speaker 4: a higher AAV but less contract length. But still, I
1:52:48
Speaker 4: think if you're Devin Witherspoon. You can't be anything but
1:52:50
Speaker 4: happy about that news.
1:52:52
Speaker 2: No, No, Schneider's probably like, damn, you need to get
1:52:56
Speaker 2: this done two days ago.
1:52:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, all right, you got one more talk, one
1:52:59
Speaker 3: more talk back there.
1:53:00
Speaker 17: We go, Trader Jerry here speaking to you from the
1:53:03
Speaker 17: Poto's wacky wavey pitching arment Porium. We are overstocked on
1:53:07
Speaker 17: starting pitchers not guaranteed to go five innings, and we
1:53:09
Speaker 17: want to pass that savings onto you. We're slashing prices
1:53:12
Speaker 17: on lat pavior contracts, offering two prospects for any hitters
1:53:16
Speaker 17: that can make contact with a baseball.
1:53:18
Speaker 6: Those can be left handed.
1:53:19
Speaker 1: Hitters, right handed hitters.
1:53:21
Speaker 17: We're ambi destrict hitters. Come down to the Poto's Wacky
1:53:25
Speaker 17: wave You pitch an armor porium today.
1:53:29
Speaker 2: Amb what was the word he used, ambidestry Like it
1:53:32
Speaker 2: wasn't even the right word.
1:53:34
Speaker 4: That makes it even better. Yeah, it does, it honestly does.
1:53:37
Speaker 4: That makes a lot of music in the background.
1:53:39
Speaker 3: Well done. The production value, huh.
1:53:41
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man, these guys, you guys get better
1:53:43
Speaker 2: every day. True uh. People are telling me on the
1:53:46
Speaker 2: text line Kitling Clark may not play tonight decision. It
1:53:49
Speaker 2: sucks you match. I spent all this money on match yea,
1:53:52
Speaker 2: oh god, oh god? How mad would you be?
1:53:56
Speaker 5: Yeah?
1:53:56
Speaker 4: Almost as mad as people who wanted to go watch
1:53:58
Speaker 4: US men's national team in the around sixteen game and
1:54:01
Speaker 4: the table.
1:54:01
Speaker 2: Oh that was so bad. We get a couple of
1:54:03
Speaker 2: text in four nine, four to five on I like
1:54:05
Speaker 2: this from two oh six. I can't tell if Mollie
1:54:06
Speaker 2: Watt makes me feel better, angrier or crazier, or if
1:54:10
Speaker 2: it's even healthy for me at this point regards good
1:54:16
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so good. It's so good. I
1:54:19
Speaker 2: don't know, man, I regardless, it's therapeutic. Side go Marris's
1:54:23
Speaker 2: from Ship. Yeah, we all have different reactions to it.
1:54:27
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, a lot. I don't know,
1:54:32
Speaker 2: boys and girls, there's a lot. I let me just
1:54:36
Speaker 2: let me just point out again. Let me just point
1:54:39
Speaker 2: out again. I see all your texts, most of them
1:54:42
Speaker 2: regarding the baseball team. I'm unable to read on the air. Yes,
1:54:46
Speaker 2: there's an FCC thing out there, and I mean, I'm
1:54:48
Speaker 2: not good. Softy does his little what is it shiggles
1:54:53
Speaker 2: and gets gets. Yeah, I'm not good at that. I'm
1:54:56
Speaker 2: always worried I'm gonna screw that one up, so I'm
1:54:58
Speaker 2: very careful. All right, we'll be good for now. Yes,
1:55:01
Speaker 2: speaking of him, Uh yeah, he he just sat down.
1:55:05
Speaker 2: He sat on talking to me. He's talking to Norm Johnson.
1:55:07
Speaker 2: Seahawk Legend is here, so he's you know, walking around.
1:55:10
Speaker 2: So all right, we'll take a break. Come back, see it.
1:55:21
Speaker 2: Put them on. Got that headset?
1:55:23
Speaker 16: You want to jump on the air, just grab the headset.
1:55:25
Speaker 2: Come on here, legends.
1:55:26
Speaker 16: We're going on the air right now.
1:55:27
Speaker 18: So whatever conversation we were gonna have off the air
1:55:29
Speaker 18: with this guys, we'll have it on the air, right
1:55:31
Speaker 18: So throw those things on.
1:55:32
Speaker 2: I think he's the all time leaguing score sto. Here
1:55:34
Speaker 2: you go. Are you still score? No?
1:55:37
Speaker 18: Yeah, Jason, Well it was Houska for him. And then
1:55:41
Speaker 18: Jason put the headset on. Listen, are you sure you
1:55:44
Speaker 18: throw those headphones off?
1:55:45
Speaker 2: The headset? Are they working?
1:55:46
Speaker 16: They should be working?
1:55:47
Speaker 2: Are working? Yeah? It's Norm Johnson's here. Seahawk Legend gived
1:55:50
Speaker 2: me a one two three one two three one Yeah.
1:55:53
Speaker 2: Norm Johnson's here. What's going on?
1:55:55
Speaker 18: Okay, now wait a minute, hang on a second before
1:55:57
Speaker 18: we start. You're telling me that Howshkin never passed you?
1:55:59
Speaker 8: Correct?
1:56:00
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna look that up. Yeah, look that up. Fuck,
1:56:01
Speaker 2: give me an all time listit talk the list? Nor Johnson?
1:56:05
Speaker 2: What's going on, buddy? How are you people? Seeking fans?
1:56:07
Speaker 2: Remember you back in the day? Things are going pretty well? Yeah,
1:56:10
Speaker 2: pretty well? It's fun down here, is it?
1:56:13
Speaker 18: Uh?
1:56:13
Speaker 2: Would you rather be here at Cheenie right now? This
1:56:17
Speaker 2: is a much better day, I think than we never
1:56:19
Speaker 2: have a cheating I missed.
1:56:20
Speaker 16: Changing Chaney was fun.
1:56:22
Speaker 9: Man.
1:56:22
Speaker 18: What was the name of that little hotel, the wagon
1:56:24
Speaker 18: wheel whatever? It was, the hotel and the main drag
1:56:26
Speaker 18: there you get jet ski out hit the lake whatever.
1:56:29
Speaker 19: I have no idea. We were in We were in
1:56:31
Speaker 19: the dorms and we never went to the hotel.
1:56:33
Speaker 2: Were you? Were you all Chuck or did you have
1:56:35
Speaker 2: Flores too? Who are your coaches?
1:56:37
Speaker 19: Okay? So Patio was number one? Oh god, that's what
1:56:42
Speaker 19: gave me my job. But he only lasted three games
1:56:44
Speaker 19: that year. Okay, that was eighty two. He went to
1:56:46
Speaker 19: the strike and then McCormick took over, and McCormick took over,
1:56:50
Speaker 19: and then Chuck came in the next.
1:56:51
Speaker 2: Check okay, and then it was all.
1:56:53
Speaker 18: Chuck, by the way, you are correct, just making sure
1:56:56
Speaker 18: I know, I know. I mean, look, I'm fifty three soft,
1:56:59
Speaker 18: here's sixty six. Sometimes we need a little bit of
1:57:02
Speaker 18: a refresher on these things.
1:57:04
Speaker 19: But how many how many times did you make mistakes
1:57:06
Speaker 19: live on air?
1:57:07
Speaker 2: Never? I don't do that at all. Yeah, how many
1:57:10
Speaker 2: times I'm perfect? Show starts, the show starts at ten minutes?
1:57:13
Speaker 18: Technically, well, technically, how many mistakes have I made before
1:57:16
Speaker 18: my show even starts?
1:57:17
Speaker 16: And it's one? Because I thought I thought Houska got you.
1:57:19
Speaker 16: I was wrong.
1:57:20
Speaker 18: Yeah, you've got him by uh, fifty one point spot.
1:57:24
Speaker 18: So norms number two, number two behind Jason Myers. So
1:57:28
Speaker 18: when when Jason passed you, I mean a lot of
1:57:30
Speaker 18: guys say records are meant to be broken. I'm happy
1:57:33
Speaker 18: for the guy. If I were you, I'd be like,
1:57:35
Speaker 18: screw that guy. He took my record. I'm pissed.
1:57:38
Speaker 16: How'd you feel about Jason Myers passing you for points?
1:57:40
Speaker 8: Score?
1:57:41
Speaker 2: Uh, I'll tell you.
1:57:43
Speaker 19: I enjoyed being number one for as long as I was,
1:57:46
Speaker 19: that's right. I think it was like thirty eight years
1:57:49
Speaker 19: or something, So it'll be a while. Yeah, I don't
1:57:51
Speaker 19: know if Jason's going to be able to hold out
1:57:53
Speaker 19: that long.
1:57:53
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a long time, long time. So when
1:57:57
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to the Paridas and CHENI was
1:58:00
Speaker 2: it true? No water nothing? Yeah, you guys, yeah, no water.
1:58:05
Speaker 19: I'd never seen what we'd see. Guys take those little
1:58:08
Speaker 19: hand towels, because back in the day we had these,
1:58:10
Speaker 19: they didn't have long ones like out here. You get
1:58:12
Speaker 19: a little washcloth type of a towel, and they'd have
1:58:15
Speaker 19: crushed ice, crushed ice in the locker room and they
1:58:18
Speaker 19: would make little hard balls. They'd wrap it up in
1:58:21
Speaker 19: the towel and then they tie that towel to their
1:58:23
Speaker 19: to their belt, and so then they would.
1:58:26
Speaker 3: Suck on that every one and tie back on their butt.
1:58:30
Speaker 2: There was no yeah, there's no water.
1:58:31
Speaker 16: That was the way to get around it.
1:58:33
Speaker 19: Well, oh god, but can you imagine going trying to
1:58:35
Speaker 19: go through practice with just a little bolo ice on
1:58:37
Speaker 19: your No, not at all.
1:58:39
Speaker 2: You do that.
1:58:39
Speaker 18: Now you tell players no water, you get sued for
1:58:41
Speaker 18: trying out. I mean, these guys, these says have no idea.
1:58:44
Speaker 18: I was talking to Millon about that Humillion, you know,
1:58:46
Speaker 18: you normOn, about how these guys today have no clue,
1:58:49
Speaker 18: no clue. When you guys went through with two days
1:58:51
Speaker 18: and Shaney one hundred and five degrees, Dusty, it's like
1:58:54
Speaker 18: a five star hotel.
1:58:55
Speaker 2: Doing nine on seven all the time.
1:58:57
Speaker 19: Not that it mattered to me, but I used to
1:58:59
Speaker 19: like watching that.
1:59:03
Speaker 2: The men were men back in the day. I love it. Well,
1:59:06
Speaker 2: that's it. Now the GPS is out there, and if
1:59:08
Speaker 2: it says if the GPS clicks on, oh, they're going
1:59:10
Speaker 2: too hard or this and that, they kind of shut
1:59:12
Speaker 2: things down. And it's the sports science is a little bit. Yeah.
1:59:15
Speaker 2: Can you imagine telling Jack Butterir about sports science. Hey,
1:59:18
Speaker 2: sports science says you got to do this, Jack PTERI
1:59:20
Speaker 2: would say, all right, boys, he'd say, pre hydrate, they
1:59:26
Speaker 2: go ahead, and the drink before you go out. And
1:59:28
Speaker 2: that is it.
1:59:29
Speaker 16: That's right. You play with a lot of greats.
1:59:31
Speaker 18: Obviously we were talking about that eighty four Pro Bowl
1:59:34
Speaker 18: team that said ad seven or eight guys on it.
1:59:37
Speaker 18: And you know, you play with Largent, you play with
1:59:39
Speaker 18: Kenny Easiley, you play with Dave Brown. You know most
1:59:41
Speaker 18: of the guys in that Ring of honor you play
1:59:43
Speaker 18: with and who was the who was the greatest player
1:59:45
Speaker 18: that you ever called a teammate you think you did.
1:59:47
Speaker 18: You want to include Atlanta, Pittsburgh, That's fine, go ahead, now,
1:59:50
Speaker 18: the greatest player that you ever called a teammate.
1:59:52
Speaker 19: So I'd probably put the top two. I'll go with
1:59:57
Speaker 19: the greatest athletes I've ever seen. Mm and Uh I
2:00:01
Speaker 19: played with Dion Sanders.
2:00:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he he was, he was up there.
2:00:06
Speaker 19: But Kenny easily was the absolute most incredible athlete I've
2:00:10
Speaker 19: ever seen. Pretty much what separated him, you know, he
2:00:14
Speaker 19: had he was smooth, he was graceful, he was he
2:00:18
Speaker 19: could do it all. He could jump, he could run,
2:00:20
Speaker 19: he you know, had moves. They said when he was
2:00:23
Speaker 19: at so I played with him at U c l
2:00:25
Speaker 19: A too, Yeah he was.
2:00:26
Speaker 2: He was ahead of me though.
2:00:28
Speaker 19: And he used to go play with the the bruined
2:00:32
Speaker 19: the basketball team and they said he could be easily
2:00:34
Speaker 19: a six man on their on their roster back when
2:00:38
Speaker 19: yeah the day did he and then he was like
2:00:40
Speaker 19: a scat scratch golfer at some point, you know, and
2:00:43
Speaker 19: he just could jump.
2:00:44
Speaker 2: He was just so graceful. He scared the daylights out
2:00:47
Speaker 2: of people, didn't he He just scared the hell out
2:00:49
Speaker 2: of people.
2:00:50
Speaker 19: Absolutely, And Uh, one of the hardest hits though I've
2:00:54
Speaker 19: ever seen.
2:00:55
Speaker 2: Was against Kenny easily. He was.
2:00:58
Speaker 19: It was in It was actually in a at U
2:01:00
Speaker 19: c l A. I remember him.
2:01:05
Speaker 2: What was the play? It was A I think it
2:01:11
Speaker 2: was A. I don't even remember.
2:01:13
Speaker 19: But he got he got blindsided. Trying to think who
2:01:16
Speaker 19: what what actually happened to the play. But I saw
2:01:19
Speaker 19: it coming. I was sitting on the sidelines and I
2:01:21
Speaker 19: saw Candy running sideways like this, not seeing this other guy.
2:01:24
Speaker 19: And I think it was like a running back coming
2:01:26
Speaker 19: and he clocked him hard.
2:01:28
Speaker 2: Wow, back back in the back when you could get
2:01:30
Speaker 2: hit you. They hit right.
2:01:32
Speaker 16: I thought, you're gonna mention the Mike Harden. Uh Steve Largin.
2:01:36
Speaker 2: Oh that was.
2:01:36
Speaker 19: Huge May when when Largent hit him because I was
2:01:40
Speaker 19: at the cheap shot the first one right, Oh, when
2:01:43
Speaker 19: they clocked Steve, that was terrible. And to see that
2:01:47
Speaker 19: coming and the next one and he you know, hits
2:01:50
Speaker 19: him and fumbles and everything.
2:01:52
Speaker 2: Yep. I was tearing up. I was so happy for you.
2:01:55
Speaker 10: Man.
2:01:55
Speaker 16: Well, God, I love that you're sixty six years young.
2:01:58
Speaker 18: Norm Before you go there playing the Oscars music in
2:02:01
Speaker 18: the background there, if I told you go out there
2:02:03
Speaker 18: and uh, give me, give me one from forty Could
2:02:06
Speaker 18: you make it?
2:02:07
Speaker 19: You know, I could visualize it. That's about as far
2:02:13
Speaker 19: as it would get.
2:02:13
Speaker 16: I love it.
2:02:14
Speaker 2: Good for you? Thirty thirty five? Extra point? Thirty three? Yeah,
2:02:18
Speaker 2: thirty three? Can any the extra point?
2:02:19
Speaker 16: How about how about from the ten twenty yards?
2:02:21
Speaker 2: Maybe with a couple of weeks of practice.
2:02:24
Speaker 10: And.
2:02:26
Speaker 18: Well, you're still the best in our eyes, man, But
2:02:28
Speaker 18: we're old, so ask the kids.
2:02:30
Speaker 2: They think the best. Thanks, guys. Johnson's second all time
2:02:33
Speaker 2: league score was the ultim time for thirty plus years.
2:02:36
Speaker 2: He was right, He was right. What are you got
2:02:38
Speaker 2: coming up to.
2:02:38
Speaker 16: The Florio's on today? At least? The new voice of
2:02:40
Speaker 16: the Dogs football team? How about that? Will join us?
2:02:43
Speaker 7: Uh?
2:02:43
Speaker 18: Sam Donald is gonna come over? Sam Donald? What time
2:02:47
Speaker 18: is gonna pop on the forty one yard? Sam Donald?
2:02:49
Speaker 18: Will join us here? I'm probably on four o'clock or show,
2:02:51
Speaker 18: all right? And then Wilder at five and then Brian Schmetzer.
2:02:54
Speaker 18: The boys have lost five in a row. He needs
2:02:56
Speaker 18: a little therapy. I think from us we'll give it
2:02:58
Speaker 18: to him a five forty five tonight. Because Jackson not helping,
2:03:00
Speaker 18: that's for he will. He will for the mild mannered
2:03:04
Speaker 18: and marginally objectionable Inverness this paddle day, saying so long everyone,