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ITB Special: Intel On Eagles Trade For Raiders CB Jakorian Bennett · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to a special edition of Inside the Birds.
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  It's Jeff Mosher and Adam Kaplan and surprised the Eagles
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  in the middle of the night, late at night on
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  Monday night, they.
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  Speaker 2: Execute a trade with the Raiders.
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  Speaker 1: They send Thomas Booker, the fourth defensive tackle, over to
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  the Raiders for a cornerback, Jacoryan Bennett.
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  Speaker 2: So a very rare early camp trade that we see.
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  Speaker 1: But Adam, we both have looked into this and we
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  have some really good intel that we want to share
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  with our readers. So why don't we get started with
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  some of the obvious stuff. First, the Jaquorian Bennett is
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  a corner it's his third year. He was a fourth
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  round pick in twenty twenty three out of Maryland. And
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  of course Booker is a guy who made the team
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  last year for the Eagles, had a really impressive camp.
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  I thought he was doing well in camp, but the
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  Eagles definitely had more young DT's on the rise, and
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  so it was gonna be harder for him to make it.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll talk about some of the developments there.
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  Speaker 1: But as you look at this trade, this is one
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  of those trades where you know the Eagles are looking
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  at corner. The Raiders are clearly looking at DT and
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  they're able to make something work out here, and the
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  feats and the futures of these players is unknown. This
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  is not like a starter for starter trade, but opportunity
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  for each a new spot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, Booker probably would have made the team, I mean,
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  not lock, but because you remember he was essentially the
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  backup nose tackle, and that's something we'll stay on the
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  Eagles first and we'll get to the Raiders. So it's
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  it says a lot about ty Robinson though. Ty Robinson's
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  the guy that they want to play a lot. You know,
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  he's not a nose tackle. Yes, he puts a weight
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  on his frame, but that's not the scouting report. The
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  scouting report on ty Robinson was he was a tweener.
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  He's not a forty three n He's not.
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  Speaker 2: He's not.
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  Speaker 3: He's more of a like a three or five technique
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  and you can move them around a little bit, but
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  he's really not knows unless unless you use them a
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  certain way. So that's something they're gonna have to look at.
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  I mean, we know we've talked about Gabe Hall. We
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  talked about himfore training camp started in a decent offseason.
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  He's got great length, but he's different. He's longer than
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  Ty Robinson and Barron Young has this minor injury. But
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  Byron Young is a guy that for a Raider ironically,
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  who they're taking a look at. And then they signed
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  and I don't I don't know if this had anything
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  to do with it. But last week they signed two
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  street free agent young players, Jacob Sykes and Joe Evans,
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  who we saw a training camp. Maybe they knew that
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  they were, maybe they knew the Raiders. Maybe they were
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  talking to John Spytech before this for the trade. How
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  he was They know each other, used to work with
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  each other. Maybe this was on how he's mine to
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  bring some developmental players in here. But from an eagle standpoint,
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  it's Ty Robinson number ninety five. I was very explosive
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  by the way that that's his deal. He it's he's
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  right now to me, he's got to be the first
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  guy off a badge.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see.
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  Speaker 4: Because Vic said he's swimming a little bit, I think
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  you're right that, I mean, you are right, Yeah, well
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  not at all. I mean, as I would say.
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  Speaker 1: Gabe's not swimming. He knows the defense having played in
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  a year. You're right in that this is good for
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  Ty Robinson. They do plan to play him. He is
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  a rookie, has a lot, but from a roster spot
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  and making the team standpoint, it's better for Gabe Hall.
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  Speaker 2: And it's really shows from what I understand.
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  Speaker 1: Uh and you had talked about this even coming out
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  of OTAs, that Gabe was really starting to get it
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  in the defense.
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  Speaker 2: We knew he was a very good athlete.
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  Speaker 1: We knew he needed a year of people getting on him,
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  coaching him and coaching him into what he needed to be.
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  And they started to see that in OTAs and they're
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  seeing it continue in training camp, which is why I
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  thought Booker, Yes, I agree. If Booker had made it,
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  it would have been I believe both of them.
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  Speaker 2: They just would have went deeper at d T.
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  Speaker 1: But now you look and you've got Jayalen Carter, you
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  have Jordan Davis, you have Moro Jomo, you have your
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  rookie Ty Robinson and Gabe Hall.
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  Speaker 2: That that's should be enough. We've talked about how they've.
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  Speaker 1: Gone heavier at times when they had like young developmental
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  tackles and maybe young come on doesn't mean they can't
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  keep more. But I think that is your your steady
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  five at the moment right now at DT, and that's
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  pretty good. They continue to be young at this position
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  and developmental well.
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  Speaker 3: Halden played last year and I know Vic talked about
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  the injury and that's fine come out of Baylor. But
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  the reason why he wasn't drafted it was because there's
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  their knocks on competitiveness, bring on energy to every practice
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  because he's got like elite length yep playing to play
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  the thirty four. You know, he he's got that, but
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  it's it's going to amply himself. No, so far, so good.
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  He's got he's got to show up. It's not a
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  lock he makes a team. He's got to show up.
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  He's got to continue to show up. He's a developmental
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  player who's done nothing in the NFL yet, but he's
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  got what you can't teach, that's elite length. And they
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  gave him a good coin last year, a practice guad guarantee.
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  So this guy's just got to bring it. And what's funny,
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  by the way, before we move on here, we got
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  a little bit more to We'll talk about Bennett. We
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  got a lot on him. What's funny is Bennett and
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  Booker making the same exact cash, like literally dollar for
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  dollars one point oh three million. It's and none of
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  us guaranteed, by the way, Bennetts and year three right,
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  and a Booker's on year two of his two year
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  deal that he recently he signed with Eagles in twenty four.
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  So it's just kind of funny how that works out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it almost feels like an NBA trade where you
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  had to make the salaries match too, along with.
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  Speaker 2: The tap of a matter.
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  Speaker 3: That's not why they did it, but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Here I know interestingly, you know, Booker only played sixteen
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  percent of the defensive snaps last year, so I mean
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  we could look good though he But my point is,
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  you know, we don't make too much of it because
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  whether it's Gabe Hall, whether it's whether it's tyrou who know.
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  I mean, the main three guys in the rotation will
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  start the year, will be Jordan Davis, will be Jalen Carter,
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  and we'll be Moro Jomo, and then everyone else will
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  be kind of mixed in based on how they're practicing
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  and how.
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  Speaker 2: They're playing on that.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, the rest of the preseason games, the
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  wrest of training camp will determine whether they add a
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  veteran because you know last year they didn't have a veteran
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  a d tackle, which is they were the only NFL
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  team to do that, right Howe Hall, Robinson, those two
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  in particular, and Barron Young. Barron Young will see now
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  he was obviously a third round pick and when he
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  was drafted they thought pretty highly of him a couple
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  of years ago. But he's now an Eagle, So I
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  think d tackle in these in preseason game is something
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  to watch. I don't know that Byron Young plays because
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  he's a minor entry, but Gabe Hall has got to
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  show up.
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  Speaker 1: And for the Raiders, you know, they went through that
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  whole ordeal, really weird old deal with Christian Wilkins and
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  injury in the contract. So people may not remember this,
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  but even though Booker is only about three one hundred
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  and three h five ish, he's he was the backup
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  nose tackle for the Eagles. They just felt like he
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  had the right technique and fundamentals to be able to
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  do that if in the case of Jordan Davis getting
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  hurt or not being available, so perhaps he can.
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  Speaker 2: Go over to the Raiders and be versatile for them
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  and help make up for the loss of Christian Wilkins.
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  They clearly needed a dtackle.
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  Speaker 3: But uh, but man, without Wilkins, it's Adam Butler, who's
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  who knows the system. Patrick Graham is still there. But
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  to be honest with you, when you when you look
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  at when you look at the situation for them, they're
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  incredibly light at d tackle. Tyree Wilson, the first round
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  for two years ago, is gonna play. They're gonna line
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  him up everywhere. He'll play inside'll play outside. They got
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  a bunch of street free agents bus plus JJ Peggeez
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  who was at draftee this year. So they're super light
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  at d tackle, right, So yeah, they needed to add
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  somebody in Booker Wabert Chansky. Not only do they have
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  a good chance to make it, he can get in
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  the rotation pretty quickly there, Oh, I.
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  Speaker 2: Would think so definitely, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, he was also having another good camp,
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  all right, So let's flip it now the Raiders.
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  Speaker 2: This is different. It's not like the Raiders are blessed
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  with great cornerback talent.
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  Speaker 1: But you and I both know when you have a
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  new coach who has a template of the type of
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  player that he likes, whether it's offense or defense.
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  Speaker 2: That means some guys just may not fit the mold.
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  Speaker 1: Remember when we joked about Eric Rowe getting traded because
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  he wasn't Jim Schwartz's you know, favorite guy out a
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  year or two.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't quote unquote fit the mold. But you know,
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  we know Caroll likes the tall, longer corners.
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  Speaker 1: You saw what he did with the Legion boom in
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  Seattle and Ja Cory and Bennett has some really good athleticism,
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  but he is a short court.
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  Speaker 2: He's about five to eleven on a good day.
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  Speaker 3: Five ten and a half at the combine. And I
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  think you had this note last year like Fangio, and
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  I know Jonathan Gannon was the same way Fangio. If
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  I remember what you said that didn't have a size requirement, Yes, yeah,
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  I do remember.
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  Speaker 1: Actually it was Gannon, but Fanjo I thought it was
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  a couple of years ago where Gannon told the staff
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  that he just wanted good players and didn't really have
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  the same Okay, okay, yeah, but I think I think
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  if you look through Fangio's or two, he likes a
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  certain kind of safety, but his corners have always varied.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he's got he's had twelve physical ones, he's
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  had shorter ones.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, and again this is not necessarily a guy
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  who's going to come in and start, So I think
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  you're just looking for talent at that position.
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  Speaker 3: Right, So here's the book on Jacareine Bennett. High Ris
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  score relative athletic score. We've talked about that nine five nine,
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  that's a really high number that you know, the Eagles
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  are big on that. Now he's five ten and five
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  as at the combine, So arms are arms weren't terribly short,
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  by the way, they were around thirty one, a little
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  bit over thirty one. That's not bad terrible for a
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  corner combine though. Speed forty four to three forty point five,
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  broad jump eleven point one, ten yards split really good
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  at one four nine. So the left leg numbers are tremendous. Now,
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  he did admit to the media back in June that
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  he had lab laboram surgery.
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  Speaker 2: But he's fine.
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  Speaker 3: He was in training camp healthy, he was running with
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  the twos. He was definitely not gonna start. It's gonna
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  be Eric Stokes and Darian Porter, speaking of tall corners
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  of Ohiowa State. Now last year's numbers he was playing.
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  I guess he said his shoulders were not great and
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  they just isn't his best interest to have surgery before
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  he got shut down. For the rest of the season,
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  he was targeted forty four times, only completed against him
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  twenty three times, so that's not bad. He started seven
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  other ten games he was healthy for, so there's very
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  good talent here. He's shorter than you'd like. The scout
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  that I talked to who did his area said long term,
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  probably would be a nickel. You would see him as
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  a nickel, but man, he's super smart, coachable, tough, very
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  aggressive and twitchy.
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  Speaker 2: So that's funny because I know you spoke. You got
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  a scouting report.
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  Speaker 1: I got a scouting report too, and I love it
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  when we both get talk to different people, but it
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  matches up because the way this person described Jagorians to
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  me was sort of like a shorter version of Ringo,
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  which is he said he's a good athlete, but he
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  can be aggressive, he can be a little handsy, and
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  for being such a great athlete, he's a little bit
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  tight hip, which we've.
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  Speaker 2: Talked about with Quillia.
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  Speaker 1: Ringo not not the most fluid mover at that position, because.
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  Speaker 2: You can imagine Adam if he tested that way and was.
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  Speaker 1: A fluid remove mover and wasn't aggressive, he probably would
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  have been a first round pick with.
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  Speaker 2: That kind of athletic testing.
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  Speaker 1: But he's got some deficiencies to his game. He'll come in,
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  he'll be able to compete. And the good thing for
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  it to Kurian is Adam. I mean, clearly Vic Fangio
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  and Howie Roseman and the powers that be want to
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  They're clearly not sold yet on what they have opposite of,
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  opposite of Quinia Mitchell. So throw another body in the
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  mix and see if something works out.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, the free agent listed corners really
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  been picked picked on over the last couple of weeks. Yeah,
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  the Santi Samuel Junior, who would be a starter wherever
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  he goes. He would compete, He would The belief is
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  he would be signed to be a starter wherever he goes.
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  He's got to get cleared of Medicley.
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  Speaker 2: And Kennel Fuller. He still could play. He played for Vic.
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  Speaker 3: The Dolphins caught him, but he played for vict two
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  years ago in Miami, so he would know the system.
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  Then Rasul Douglas is on the next wrong, that's pretty
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  much it now because he goes have thirteen draft picks
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  for next year. Look, if they're not happy now, now
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  the timing is interesting. They did this instead of waiting
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  until the end of the month, for the first week September.
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  How he did a smart thing. If you're gonna do this,
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  do it now, don't wait.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: And he brought him in now. And Bennett's got a
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  chance to compete for a pretty good job here. It's
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  it's it's kind of open here. Who's going to start.
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  I mean, we'll see what happens with Bennett. And he
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  says he's healthy, and he asked. He wasn't on He
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  didn't start on the list for training camp. So we'll
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  see what happens. But they don't forget folks, if they're
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  not happy. Now he's not happy. Vic's not happy. You
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  got a lot of draft picks for next year to
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  trade for him?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this isn't the move.
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  Speaker 1: If they're not happy, This is a move to just
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  give you some death of competition. This is a guy
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  who's got to play in the preseason games. They got
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  to evaluate him, They got to see how it goes
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  so looking forward to seeing that.
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  Speaker 2: But I agree with your point.
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  Speaker 1: If you're going to compare, if you're going to make
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  an acquisition just to get somebody in to compete, as
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  opposed to a guy who's played in the league, and
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  maybe on the downside, like a Russell Douglas who's getting
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  up there a little bit, or a guy who may
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  have some upside in your coaching, you know, has the
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  athleticism and maybe with some coaching in your coaching staff,
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  you see the upside, then it makes more sense to
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  go that route.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's pretty much where we're at with at
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  It's that they'll evaluate over the next three and a
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  half weeks and they'll have to make a decision. And
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  the hope here is that from an ego standpoint, he
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  looks so good, now is he in the mix to start?
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  They don't feel like they have to add another corner, right.
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  That's that's the upside of this thing. Now if he's
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  if he doesn't look good, don't stay healthy, or he
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  just you know, he's got to learn the system very quickly.
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  This is that we give Gardner Johnson credit like he
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  did one of the all time great jobs. And now
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  with safety, who, by the way, was one of the
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  best Nickels in the national FOLLO bully with the Saints.
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  He was phenomenal there. This is a this is a
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  different deal here, that he's going to be a corner here,
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  and as Vic says, no, he's not Nickel Nichols dB
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  Nichols Nickel Corner's corner. So we'll see what Bennett does here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: One thing to be concerned about Adam with this guy,
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  according is that he for for if he's gonna make
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  this team and not be a starter. Uh, he has
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  not played a ton of special teams very little career,
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  just none last year and as a rookie that really
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  especially at that position, because we know Ringo is a
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  good special teams player. So at very least Ringo's got
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  that if he doesn't win out the starting job.
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  Speaker 2: That's just something to keep in mind. If we get
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  closer to the fifty three.
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  Speaker 3: They need him play corner man. They have desperate times
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  called for desperate measures. But again they didn't wait. They
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  didn't wait till the end of the month, which to
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  me would have been a mistake. Right, how could it
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  the way that Vic wants to If you don't know
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  the defense you're coming in right at the start of
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  the season. It's really hard.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, it's really hard. Definitely. All right,
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  great stuff.
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  Speaker 1: That is the intel that we have for you on
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  this trade. That's gonna do it for Adam Kaplan. I'm
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  Jeff Mosher.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for watching a special edition of Inside the Birds.