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Hour 1: Columbus Day · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Well, glory, hallelujah, I need to give a shout out
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  Speaker 1: to Dr. Gil Lederman.
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  Speaker 2: Larry, Natalie, I had no voice on Saturday and Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: so there was peace in the Sliwa household. Nancy loved
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  Speaker 2: it that way, and the cats loved it. But I
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  Speaker 2: had to get that voice back to be here, same time,
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  Speaker 2: same place as we are every Monday through Friday. You
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  Speaker 2: wake up with Curtis and Larry, till it's time to
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  Speaker 2: hand off the microphone to Mark Simone and I.
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  Speaker 1: So I had to get my special medication.
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  Speaker 3: Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Lederman came through. So props, great synergy. Try doing that
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  Speaker 2: on a Sunday. And we're going to try to get
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  Speaker 2: him on.
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  Speaker 4: Is he coming up?
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  Speaker 3: Natalie?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to try to get him coming up
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  Speaker 2: because the Pope, they've determined he has a nodule on
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  Speaker 2: his lung, the American Pope. And he's going to be
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  Speaker 2: going under the knife. And nobody knows more about those
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  Speaker 2: kind of situations than Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Gil Lederman. Yeah, we're going to have him on at 6.50,
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  Speaker 1: so not far away.
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  Speaker 2: So he came to my aid, and he'll give us
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  Speaker 2: all the information we need to know. But today is
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  Speaker 2: the big Columbus Day Parade up Fifth Avenue. Now, there
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  Speaker 2: are the many, many parades in the tri-state area that
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  Speaker 2: took place over this weekend. Almost everywhere where there's an
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  Speaker 2: Italian-American community, they had a Christopher Columbus Parade. But the
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  Speaker 2: mayor decided he wasn't going to attend any of the parades.
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  Speaker 2: The one that took place in the neighborhood he lived
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  Speaker 2: in for a while, Astoria.
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  Speaker 1: Small parade.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a statue there right before you hit the...
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  Speaker 2: Triborough Bridge off the Grand Central Parkway. Back in 2020,
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  Speaker 2: he took a photo in front of when he was
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  Speaker 2: living there with his finger. He was giving the finger
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  Speaker 2: to Christopher Columbus. I saw it, and he wanted to
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  Speaker 2: get rid of that day. So he's not a real
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  Speaker 2: fan of Christopher Columbus, and apparently he's not a fan
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  Speaker 2: of the Italian-American community in New York. No, they didn't
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  Speaker 2: vote for him. You know how he wagers things. You
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  Speaker 2: voted for me, or there's some support for me, I
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  Speaker 2: go to your parade. You didn't vote for me, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to your parade.
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  Speaker 1: But this one.
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  Speaker 2: in particular is he was in favor of pulling that
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  Speaker 2: statue down. Remember the summer of George Floyd, they were
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  Speaker 2: pulling Christopher Columbus statues down everywhere. They beheaded the one
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  Speaker 2: in Camden. They took down the one in Trent. They
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  Speaker 2: put it in a box. Remember in South Philadelphia, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they headed it like a box where you couldn't even
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  Speaker 2: get into it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's back.
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  Speaker 1: Good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And there were other statues that were being taken down
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  Speaker 2: and put into storage, but New York city, In addition
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  Speaker 2: to the big one in Columbus, Serco has one in
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  Speaker 2: Brooklyn outside the state Supreme Court building, the one in Astoria. Imagine,
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  Speaker 2: Staten Italy, right? The most Italian of worlds. They don't
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  Speaker 2: even have a statue that Christopher Columbus never had.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't he get rid of Little Italy, too? I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he really has something against Italian-Americans. Yeah, he said, oh,
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  Speaker 4: we forgot to put it on our ethnic map. Little Italy.
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  Speaker 1: Look, he just.
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  Speaker 2: He don't get along with Italians, and Italians don't get
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  Speaker 2: along with him.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't he promise he was going to be the mayor
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  Speaker 4: for all people at his big speech? He was going
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  Speaker 4: to be the mayor for everybody. It didn't matter if
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  Speaker 4: you voted for me or not. It doesn't seem like
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  Speaker 4: he's been ruling that way.
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  Speaker 2: No, but if you remember that first debate, the NBC
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  Speaker 2: debate with Cuomo, me, and Mondami towards the end, Me
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  Speaker 2: and Mondami got into it because I said all parades matter.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, that's the lead column in today's New York
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  Speaker 2: Times describing how he's not going to any of the parades,
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  Speaker 2: nor festivities, is that all parades matter. When you're the mayor,
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  Speaker 2: you go even if you're going to get booed. Perfect example,
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  Speaker 2: Bill de Blasio, who could not hide in a parade.
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  Speaker 2: He was Big Bird. Guy was too tall. When he
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  Speaker 2: first went to the Italian-American parades in his first four years,
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  Speaker 2: they loved him. He spoke Italian, his mother. He visited Italy.
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  Speaker 2: Second four years, he got booed unmercifully in Right Felicia.
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  Speaker 1: So all he would do is speedwalk.
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  Speaker 2: He'd speedwalk right through the parade and wave as if,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they were cheering instead of booing.
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  Speaker 1: This is what you do.
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  Speaker 2: As a mayor.
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  Speaker 4: That's a lot of mayors across the country. A lot
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  Speaker 4: of mayors do exactly that, but they don't not go.
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  Speaker 4: What a little wuss.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, he doesn't want to go.
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  Speaker 2: Instead, he did a video praising Fiorello LaGuardia, Vito Marcantonio.
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  Speaker 2: He was a socialist congressman from East Harlem for many years.
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  Speaker 2: But that doesn't fit the bill. You should go to
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  Speaker 2: every parade. You should go to every festival you can
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  Speaker 2: because that's what New York City is all about. Whether
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  Speaker 2: the people like you or they don't like you, you're
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  Speaker 2: the mayor.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely. Frank Rizzo, by the way, in Philadelphia was
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  Speaker 4: loved at the Columbus Day Parade, as you can imagine.
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  Speaker 4: But he was loved at all the parades because the
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  Speaker 4: same people that went to Columbus Day Parade showed up
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  Speaker 4: at the other parades to make sure that everybody was
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  Speaker 4: cheering him. They were in the crowd actually putting the
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  Speaker 4: arm on people that would dare to boo the mayor.
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  Speaker 2: The only time the mayor did not march in the
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  Speaker 2: parade is he wanted some members of the Sopranos with him, especially,
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  Speaker 2: what was that, Melfi? You know, the female shrink.
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  Speaker 3: Dr. Melfi.
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  Speaker 1: He was hot to trot on her. You know, this guy.
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  Speaker 1: He was always perving on women, Bloomberg, even though he
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  Speaker 1: had a girlfriend, right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he insisted that he march with members of
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  Speaker 2: the Sopranos. The Italian-American coalition that sponsors Bray said, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: because they represent organized crime. So I think he decided
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  Speaker 2: to take a powder, but he was prepared to march.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't march with them because he thought they were
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  Speaker 4: an organized crime? That was the whole reason?
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  Speaker 1: No, no.
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  Speaker 2: The committee didn't want members of the Sopranos. He wanted
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  Speaker 2: to be holding Melfi. He was so hot to trot,
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  Speaker 2: as a lot of our listeners were when they would
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  Speaker 2: watch the Sopranos. Remember the female shrink to Tony? That's
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  Speaker 2: the only time I think that happened. Did every other
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  Speaker 2: mayor march? I believe so, unless there was something that
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  Speaker 2: they were out of town or out of the country.
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  Speaker 2: I will give credit to a person I never give
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  Speaker 2: credit to. Hold on to your hat. Andrew Ivelisse Cuomo.
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  Speaker 2: He not only preserved the parades, he preserved the statues.
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  Speaker 2: Remember the summer of 2020, George Floyd. If they weren't
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  Speaker 2: attacking and desecrating the statues, they were taking the statues
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  Speaker 2: down and putting them into storage. He protected all the
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  Speaker 2: statues with state troopers. He said, look, this is to
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  Speaker 2: preserve Italian-American traditions. And when his fellow Supreme Cuisine, de Blasio,
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't allow a statue to be put up to Mother
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  Speaker 2: Cabrini because she was pro-life, he took it over for
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  Speaker 2: the state, put up the Mother Cabrini statue. It's right
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  Speaker 2: down there, the Holocaust Museum, which is in the lower
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  Speaker 2: end of Manhattan before you catch the Staten Island Ferry.
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  Speaker 1: So I give props to Cuomo.
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  Speaker 2: Because he said that statue represents the work of the
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  Speaker 2: Italian-American peoples. And he did not vacillate. He did not hesitate.
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  Speaker 2: He did not blink. He did not buck. He did
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  Speaker 2: not bow.
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  Speaker 1: He defended the tradition of the parade and, most importantly,
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  Speaker 1: the many statues.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole thing about going back in history and
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  Speaker 4: rating people or deciding on the character of people by
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  Speaker 4: today's standards is ridiculous. is absolutely ridiculous. There's nobody that's pure.
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  Speaker 4: When you go back just a couple hundred years, there's
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  Speaker 4: nobody that's pure. None of our founding fathers are pure.
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  Speaker 4: Not one of them is pure. And certainly the people
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  Speaker 4: that came from Europe back in the 1600s, not one
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  Speaker 4: of them is pure either. So you just can't do it.
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  Speaker 4: If you want to, if you want to really besmirch somebody,
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  Speaker 4: then go ahead and hold them to our standards, because
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  Speaker 4: our standards are completely new, and some of them are
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  Speaker 4: kind of outlandish. But That's what's happening, and it's silly.
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  Speaker 4: You just can't do it. You cannot do it.
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  Speaker 2: Larry, I will not besmirch Columbus. I will tell you
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  Speaker 2: some of the things that I've said that has gotten
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  Speaker 2: me into tremendous controversy with not only our listeners but
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  Speaker 2: people in general. I said there were four ships, the Nina,
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  Speaker 2: the Pinta, the Santa, and the Maria. The Maria was
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  Speaker 2: sort of like when you have a train, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you have a caboose at the end, and people have said,
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  Speaker 2: you don't know what you're talking about. The other thing
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  Speaker 2: that I've discussed is how there is this theory that
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  Speaker 2: this young man, Columbus, when he was born in Genoa,
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  Speaker 2: before he went sailing up to England and Ireland, because
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  Speaker 2: a lot of young men started to sail at an
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  Speaker 2: early age, was actually born Jewish. Oh my, oh, that
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  Speaker 2: starts such a controversy. But the biggest controversy is people
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  Speaker 2: don't know how the day came about. You know, if
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  Speaker 2: you just say to them, How did the Columbus Day
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  Speaker 2: event come about? What in history precipitated that? It was
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  Speaker 2: a very dark day for Italians. In fact, those who
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  Speaker 2: are knowledgeable talk about the largest mass lynching in the
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  Speaker 2: history of America. Now, obviously, more African-Americans were lynched than
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  Speaker 2: all others combined. But on this one day, 11 Italians
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  Speaker 2: were taken out of jail after most had been acquitted.
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  Speaker 2: They were accused of crime. killing the police chief in
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  Speaker 2: New Orleans. And the crowd, which was made of some
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  Speaker 2: very esteemed people, dragged them out, shot them, and then
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  Speaker 2: hung them right in the square where the cathedral is
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  Speaker 2: now before you hit the levee. It was a horrid day.
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  Speaker 2: And yet a lot of people justified it. To give
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  Speaker 2: you an idea, at that time, Teddy Roosevelt was representing
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  Speaker 2: the United States with foreign consulates. He was having dinner
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  Speaker 2: with the Italian consulate. They said, hey, what is America
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  Speaker 2: going to do about this? And Teddy Roosevelt said, the
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  Speaker 2: only problem I have with this gentleman, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: be very direct with you, is they didn't hang more.
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  Speaker 2: And then Italy wanted to go to war. People don't
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  Speaker 2: realize that. They pulled their ambassadors. They closed their consulates
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  Speaker 2: over that. They were threatening war. And it was President
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  Speaker 2: Benjamin Harrison who decided to cast a day for Christopher
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  Speaker 2: Columbus to try to assuage everybody and say it is
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  Speaker 2: to honor the work of the Italian-American people. But these
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  Speaker 2: were the headlines when the 11 Italians, most were Sicilian,
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  Speaker 2: were hung. The Dagos did it. Teach these people a
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  Speaker 2: lesson they will not forget. We need to get rid
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  Speaker 2: of all these Italians.
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  Speaker 1: They're vicious. They're idle, worthless, filthy. They spread disease.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you an idea that Italians were not welcome
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  Speaker 2: in a lot of parts of the United States. I
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  Speaker 2: say they were the equivalent Southern Italians and Sicilians of
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  Speaker 2: the way Mexicans are now. They'll do any work. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of them had, they couldn't read, they couldn't write
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  Speaker 2: like my grandfather, Fidelio Bianchino. But you give them a shovel,
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  Speaker 2: ditch digger. Like I said, today is the anniversary of
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  Speaker 2: when the Holland Tunnel was first being dug, it took
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  Speaker 2: them about 10 years, a lot of people died. Most
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  Speaker 2: of the workers were Italian-Americans like in a lot of
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  Speaker 2: those construction sites. And even Joe DiMaggio, to give you
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  Speaker 2: an idea, Joe DiMaggio, 1942, you couldn't get more popular
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  Speaker 2: than Joe DiMaggio. His dad, who had been here 40 years,
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  Speaker 2: was considered an enemy alien.
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  Speaker 1: They took his fishing.
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  Speaker 2: Boat away from him in San Francisco and he had
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  Speaker 2: to report Because remember, we were at war with Benito
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  Speaker 2: Mussolini in addition to Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime.
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  Speaker 4: What holiday should we have? What are we missing? And
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  Speaker 4: don't forget, the best talk back of the week takes
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  Speaker 4: home a C-Crane radio. Well, one of the most volatile
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  Speaker 4: and popular figures of NFL football in the past several
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  Speaker 4: decades has passed away. We'll talk about Mike Ditka from
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  Speaker 4: the Chicago Bears. The Bears... when we come back. Plus,
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  Speaker 4: a chance to see Journey at 825. Well, the NFL
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  Speaker 4: has lost a true legend, an incredible player, incredible tight end,
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  Speaker 4: Super Bowl winning coach, and a great commentator, Mike Ditka,
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  Speaker 4: who was coach of the Chicago Bears, took them to
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  Speaker 4: the World Series, won the World Series. in 1985, but
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  Speaker 4: more than anything else, he was known for his personality.
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  Speaker 4: And the way he dealt with the press was incredible.
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  Speaker 4: He was so dismissive of them, and they loved him.
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  Speaker 3: There's three quarterbacks on this football team. Whichever one starts, starts.
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  Speaker 3: Whichever ones don't will back him up. Period. Cut and dry.
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  Speaker 3: It's nobody's concern but ours. Nobody's. Next. injuries from the game.
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  Speaker 3: Talk to the trainer. Next. Mike, why are you in
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  Speaker 3: such a bad mood? What do you care?
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: If you were 2-7, you'd be in a bad mood too.
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  Speaker 4: He was legendary. He was so good at that. And
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  Speaker 4: the funny thing is, the people that he was making
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  Speaker 4: fun of just ate it up. People forget what a
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  Speaker 4: great player he was too. He was the first tight end.
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  Speaker 4: He was picked fourth in the NFL draft. And in 1961.
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  Speaker 4: And he was the first rookie of the year. And
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  Speaker 4: he also became the first tight end to surpass 1,000
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  Speaker 4: receiving yards. Remaining the only person ever to play in
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  Speaker 4: Chicago that did that. So he was just, he was
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  Speaker 4: a great player. He was a great commentator. He was
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  Speaker 4: a great guy. And he always brought something.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, and they loved him in Chicago. Part Polish, part Ukrainian.
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  Speaker 2: came out of the greater Pittsburgh area, Aliquippa, Aliquippa High School.
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  Speaker 1: You know who his coach was? Pete Maravich's father.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: And then he had a choice, go to Notre Dame. No,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to University of Pitt. He was loyal to Pittsburgh,
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  Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh loved him. They just wished that they would
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  Speaker 2: have had him playing with the Steelers instead of the
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  Speaker 2: way he was playing with the Chicago Bears and then coaching.
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  Speaker 2: And then he had the problem of Ryan, his defensive coach.
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  Speaker 1: You remember?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, they fought all the time.
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  Speaker 3: All the time.
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  Speaker 4: Buddy Ryan, they fought constantly. They're the same person. That's why.
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  Speaker 4: You never should be around somebody that's exactly like you are.
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  Speaker 4: Buddy Ryan went on to coach the Eagles. He had
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  Speaker 4: fights with a couple of his assistant coaches that were legendary.
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  Speaker 4: I think a lot of people really got to know
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  Speaker 4: him from Saturday Night Live. Because you remember Da Bears,
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  Speaker 4: they all dressed like him. They all wore the same mustache.
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  Speaker 4: So Da Bears, you know, of all the characters that
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  Speaker 4: have played now in the NFL or have coached in
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  Speaker 4: the NFL, I don't know anybody that is such a character,
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  Speaker 4: had such a personality, and was able to handle the media,
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  Speaker 4: as you heard him a second ago, better than Mike Ditka.
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  Speaker 4: I was at BBM when they did the Mike Ditka show.
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  Speaker 4: They used to bring him in every weekend. I was
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  Speaker 4: scared to talk to him. I never even said hi.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to get shut down?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's like this. Hey, coach, who are you?
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  Speaker 1: Why are you talking to me?
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  Speaker 4: But, yeah, he used to come in every week. By
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  Speaker 4: the way, when I was there, too, Michael Jordan came
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  Speaker 4: in every week. Completely different thing.
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  Speaker 3: He's Mr. Personnel.
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  Speaker 1: Totally different.
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  Speaker 4: So nice to everybody. Just talk to everybody. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it was a great time in Chicago. But Ditka, man,
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  Speaker 4: they love him. He had a bar for a long
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  Speaker 4: time that was extremely popular called Ditka's. And so, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the NFL is going to miss him. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: there's any– is there anybody like him now? The new
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  Speaker 4: coaches are not like– Oh, my God. The coaches had
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  Speaker 4: a horrible weekend. Your Philly coach.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 2: The coach for the Washington Commanders. They should have beaten
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  Speaker 2: the Giants.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that with Warner at 738.
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  Speaker 2: And then a number of other coaches who just made
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  Speaker 2: decisions that cost their teams games.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they were the two big ones. You mentioned the
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  Speaker 4: two most ridiculous ones. Coach Sirianni got up. It was
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  Speaker 4: the first time I've ever heard a coach do this, really, ever.
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  Speaker 4: And he looked like he was going to cry. And
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  Speaker 4: he said, well, that was my fault. I just apologized
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  Speaker 4: to the team. And I want to apologize to Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 4: You know what that means to me? He's gone.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: That's going to be the end of him. Now let's
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  Speaker 4: get to Daria Albinger with the 630 News. Good morning, Daria.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, guys.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Mike Ditka's wife was my high school secretary
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: because he was an assistant in Dallas at the time.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: You had a secretary in high school?
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: Not my personal secretary.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: She knew your homework?
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I could have used one, though.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: Definitely in the math and science. She was our high
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: school secretary. Just a little trivia for you. Do you
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: remember the Chunky Soup commercial where Ditka and his wife
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: were arguing over the soup?
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: Yes!
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: That wasn't her.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: That wasn't his wife.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: His wife, Sherry Ditka, was the most beautiful, nicest, sweetest
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: woman you'll ever meet.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: A little trivia for you there.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: All right, showers ending, becoming mostly sunny later today in
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: a high of 71 degrees. It is Columbus Day, and
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: it's Indigenous Peoples Day. The big parade steps off along
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: Fifth Avenue this morning. Mayor Mom Donnie will not attend.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: Governor Hochul will take part, and we understand Curtis will
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: take part as well. Indigenous Peoples Day celebrations, meanwhile, continuing
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: on Randall's Island. The kids are off from school. The
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: banks are closed. There's no mail delivery today. Most financial
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: markets are open, but the bond markets are closed. President
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: Trump says a deal that he's made with Russian President
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: Putin will ease a global fuel shortage.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: The U.S.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: Will buy diesel from Russia to help lower rising fuel
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: costs as the war with Iran continues. But some say
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: this is a bad move.
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: This announcement from President Trump really blindsided both Ukraine and
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: European allies. This immediately became highly controversial among congressional figures
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: because President Trump has said throughout this war as well
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: is that he's accused, rightly, European allies of continuing to
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: buy Russian oil and funding the Russian war machine. And now,
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: of course, the U.S. is potentially poised to do exactly
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: the same thing.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: That's ABC's Patrick Riewoldt. A search continues for suspects connected
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: to a home invasion in Queens.
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: Police were called to a home in Flushing around 2.32 a.m.
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: on Sunday morning. A 45-year-old man reported that several people
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: forced their way into his home, held him at gunpoint
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: and struck him with a crowbar. The suspects also made
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: off with a Rolex and chain worth about $ 65, 000 before
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: fleeing the scene on foot. No arrests have been made
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: as authorities say they are looking for three male suspects
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: who were dressed in all black. I'm Lizzie Radabali, WOR News.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: The CDC says there have been more than 4,000 cases
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: of measles so far this year across 47 states and
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: the District of Columbia. The Jets and the Rangers win,
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: and the Giants game with Washington ends in a tie.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: Next news, 7 o'clock bulletins at once. I'm Daria Albinger
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: on 710 WOR.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Up next, we're going to discuss President Donald Trump announced
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: a detente. Putin would not attack energy sites in the Ukraine.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Ukraine would not attack, especially those areas that were making
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: the raw oil into diesel.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Guess what?
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Zelensky said, I had no idea, but hey, if he
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: can get the Russians to stop attacking our energy grid,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I'm into it.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: We'll deal with that up next.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Well, it sounds like we might have at least a
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine. At least that's what Donald
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Trump says. Donald Trump says that they're going to have
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: this ceasefire. He had talked a little bit about it
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: yesterday during one of his rallies. And then all of
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: a sudden, surprise, surprise, surprise, he makes an announcement. The
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: problem is it was an announcement to– it was a
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: surprise to everyone, including Volodymyr Zelensky. Now, he likes the idea.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: He said that would be fine. But he's not really
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: sure it's in existence because he didn't get a phone
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: call directly from the president. The president apparently went to
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: the press first. So this is in this long back
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: and forth yesterday about– about oil, about getting buying oil
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: from Russia, and then saying Zelensky's got to stop attacking
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: the refineries in Russia so we can get this oil, which,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: by the way, is all about the midterms to bring
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: prices down before the midterms. So let me give you
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: a little bit about what he said yesterday.
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: He'd like to see a settlement. President Putin would like
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: to see a settlement strongly. And look, he's freeing up
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: a lot of oil for the world, okay?
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: That's a good thing.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: And by the way, at a very low price.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, again, he'd like to see a settlement. That's what
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: he said during the speech. Shortly after the speech, he said,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: there is a settlement. There is an agreement. There is
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: a ceasefire. And then Zelensky said, We are open for this.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Don't attack us.
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: Don't kill our children. We will stop attack your diesel.
• 21:28
  Speaker 9: And I think it's fair, fair deal.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: So if Donald Trump is correct, if Putin has said
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: he would like a ceasefire, if Donald Trump says there's
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: a ceasefire, and if Zelensky says, that's fine, I'll do it,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: then I guess there's going to be a ceasefire. But Curtis,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: the big problem here is no details at all have
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: been ironed out. Like, they both have their wish lists
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: of what they don't want to be attacked. But right now,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: there is no reality to that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Zelensky said, I had no idea that this
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: was taking place. So clearly, as you said, it was
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: for the midterm. But even that diesel fuel, if it
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: were to get to market, wouldn't affect anyone's price until November, December.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: So it sounds good. But then again, we've been telling
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: our allies, don't you dare buy a drop of Russian
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: petroleum products. In fact, we went after countries who were
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: trying to buy it in the black market. So it's
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: another contradiction. It's four years of war. The Russians, they
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: attack the grid going into winter. Obviously, that impacts the
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Ukrainians a lot because it takes away from their ability
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: to stay warm, the electricity. And the very successful program
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: that Zelensky has had with the drones attacking, as you
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: had mentioned, the refineries that produce the diesel. Russians themselves
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: don't have enough diesel now because of the success of
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: those attacks.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: So let's see how it plays out. But this just.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Seems like, at this rate, it's going to be an
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: endless war until both sides just get tired and they
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: decide to sit down and negotiate a peace.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: If it is true, though, let's play this out over
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: the next couple of days and go positive with it.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: If it is true that whatever Donald Trump did when
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: he talked to Putin... And then Zelensky responded and said,
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: I'm open to that if this were to happen. And
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: now there's a 60-day ceasefire in the war between Russia
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: and Ukraine, which nobody's been able to ever accomplish. If
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: that were to happen, and then the prices come down,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: the gas prices come down, and we get diesel fuel
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: coming in from Russia... that's a win-win-win for America.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, I'll nominate him for a Nobel
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Peace Prize because in Syracuse he was saying he should.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Have gotten eight of them.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: That's right. He's done a pretty good job. He's done
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: a great job forgetting, you know, just forget for a
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: second making fun of him because of what he said.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: He's actually been able to negotiate peace around the world
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: pretty darn well. It is funny that he turned around
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: completely later in the day because for a while there,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: because Zelensky wasn't budging on anything, he wanted him out.
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: I suggest they get a new leader who can make
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: a deal, because he could have made many deals, and
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: for some reason he never does.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, Ukraine has not had a national election
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: since the war started four years ago, and they are clamoring.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: And Zelensky is saying, well, it's wartime. We can't have
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: an election. We had an election with Abraham Lincoln during
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the Civil War. That's ridiculous. Now, Putin had an election. Obviously,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: it was in the back.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: But there should be an election in the Ukraine. There
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: are other people who think this could be handled differently.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: They have had elections in the past, but Zelensky is
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: hiding something.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Behind the fact that you can't do it during war.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: But the big thing with Zelensky is he's not a
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: saint in this whole thing. He was dictatorial. He fired
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: people he didn't like. He got rid of people he
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: didn't like. He took over state media. I mean, it
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: sounds like a communist country. And then he suspended all elections.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: But now he's saying, listen, Donald Trump has no say
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: on this. If we're going to have elections, it's going
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: to be up to the people of Ukraine, which, by
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: the way, it has never been up to. It's only
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: been up to him.
• 25:25
  Speaker 9: With all respect to President Trump, it's up to our society,
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: up to our people to choose one or another leader.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I wish they would choose one who's not corrupt. Whenever
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: you look at the Ukraine, you look at corruption, one
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: of the most corrupt countries in the world. Not to
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: suggest that the Russians aren't corrupt, but I think every
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: time we send a dollar over there or the European
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Union sends money over there, Everybody's getting their cut of
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: the action before it actually goes for the defense of
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: the country.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but how disingenuous was that? It's up to the people. No,
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: the people had no say in any of this. No
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: say in any of it. Why don't you go ahead
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: and announce there's going to be elections? Then give the
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: people their say. That was the worst thing in the world.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: I know you really wanted to get to the rally
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: in Syracuse, so I think we have a couple of
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: minutes left so we can play the one thing you
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: were talking about when you came in today.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's amazing.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: When you stand up here, it's just like the love.
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: I could say the stupidest things and you'd clap, you know,
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: I love you so.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: I'm sure.
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: But we don't say the stupidest things. We say things
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: of common sense.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was cute.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: That was funny. But naturally, his critics immediately took the
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: first part of that statement. All is fair in politics
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: and war, correct?
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: That's absolutely true. Pope Leo will undergo surgery to remove
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: a nodule from his lung. We're going to talk with
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: the great Dr. Gil Lederman about what that means coming
• 27:03
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• 27:09
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• 28:21
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• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Ah, the news. The Pope is going to go under
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: the knife for surgery.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: He's got a nodule, I guess, on his lung, but.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: To discuss that, it's Dr.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Gil Lederman, host of Radio Surgery New York on WOR
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: at midnight and on the weekends, and who wrote me
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: a prescription on Sunday that got my voice back or
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be here this morning.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you, Doc.
• 28:46
  Speaker 10: Thank you so much.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: All right, so what do.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: You know about the Pope's condition that has caused him
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: to go under the knife?
• 28:54
  Speaker 10: Okay, so I know what you know, what you denounce,
• 28:56
  Speaker 10: but I'm trying to get behind the headlines and say
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: why the heck Are they saying this and why the
• 29:02
  Speaker 10: heck would they put a man, the Pope or anybody
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: through surgery for a nodule in the lung? There are
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: certainly options and many, many people, hundreds of thousands of
• 29:12
  Speaker 10: people have lung cancers and lung nodules. And in this
• 29:16
  Speaker 10: day and age, people that come to me generally don't
• 29:18
  Speaker 10: want to go through surgery. They don't want to have
• 29:20
  Speaker 10: their lung opened up. They don't want to have part
• 29:22
  Speaker 10: of their lung removed. And that's what they're talking about
• 29:25
  Speaker 10: for Pope Leo. So there are options for someone who's
• 29:29
  Speaker 10: got lung cancer or lung nodule. They didn't talk about that,
• 29:33
  Speaker 10: and obviously it's beyond the scope of their announcement, but
• 29:36
  Speaker 10: usually when a person comes here with a lung nodule,
• 29:39
  Speaker 10: planning to have surgery. the first thing a surgeon wants
• 29:41
  Speaker 10: to do most commonly, not always, but most commonly is
• 29:44
  Speaker 10: to go in and cut out part of the lung
• 29:47
  Speaker 10: and put it in a box and check it pathologically.
• 29:51
  Speaker 10: But there's ways to see if it's cancer, first of all,
• 29:54
  Speaker 10: with a little needle. So most people I see would
• 29:56
  Speaker 10: rather have a little needle put in their lung and
• 29:59
  Speaker 10: know whether it's cancer or not before they have surgery.
• 30:03
  Speaker 10: We don't know if he had that. So he may
• 30:05
  Speaker 10: have already had a biopsy.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Who knows?
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: There's two ways to get a biopsy. One is put
• 30:09
  Speaker 10: the needle through the skin. Another way is bronchoscopy through
• 30:13
  Speaker 10: the airway. There's another way for people who don't want
• 30:16
  Speaker 10: to even do biopsies. And there's many, many people who
• 30:18
  Speaker 10: don't want to do biopsies. Because if you do a biopsy,
• 30:21
  Speaker 10: like for the Pope to do surgery, he's going to
• 30:23
  Speaker 10: end up in the ICU for a week. His lung
• 30:25
  Speaker 10: will be totally collapsed. He'll have a chest tube. It
• 30:28
  Speaker 10: will be painful. And he has to reinflate the lung
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: and get the lung back and then see what this
• 30:34
  Speaker 10: is unless there's been a biopsy, unless he already knows.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: So there are options.
• 30:39
  Speaker 10: For him, and we certainly hope that he would have
• 30:42
  Speaker 10: chosen surgery and not known about other things like radiosurgery
• 30:47
  Speaker 10: where you don't need cutting, you don't need bleeding, you
• 30:50
  Speaker 10: don't need hospitals, you don't need anesthesia. And you'd think
• 30:52
  Speaker 10: that someone like him would want to have an equally
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: effective treatment that's non-invasive, that doesn't remove part of his lung.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really fascinating. That's great information. While you were talking,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: I looked it up, too, and they said that over
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: half of all adults who get a chest CT scan
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: or x-ray, they find nodules in but most of them
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: don't need any operations. So from what you just said
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: a moment ago and that fact there, do you believe
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: there must be something else going on for them to
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: go in?
• 31:29
  Speaker 10: Well, look, you never know. I see so many patients,
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: and if a surgeon gets their hands on a patient,
• 31:34
  Speaker 10: and surgeons would probably love to have a high-profile patient
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: like the Pope on their resume, So it can elevate them.
• 31:42
  Speaker 10: On the other hand, it can go bad. He can
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: end up with a complication or shortness of breath or
• 31:48
  Speaker 10: not be able to breathe well for the rest of
• 31:49
  Speaker 10: his life or even worse. So sometimes cowboys are surgeons
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: and surgeons are cowboys and they want to get a
• 31:57
  Speaker 10: high-profile case. If the Pope Leo or anybody, a listener,
• 32:01
  Speaker 10: came here, we would get tested. We'd get cancer marker,
• 32:04
  Speaker 10: blood test. We'd get a PET scan. A PET scan
• 32:07
  Speaker 10: is a non-invasive way to see if a nodule is
• 32:09
  Speaker 10: suspicious for cancer. So in this day and age, there's many,
• 32:12
  Speaker 10: many non-invasive testing that can be done to evaluate whether
• 32:16
  Speaker 10: it's a cancer or not. And you're right, there's many
• 32:19
  Speaker 10: nodules in the lung, but most of them are not cancers.
• 32:22
  Speaker 10: He may have had a CT scan, let's say, six
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: months ago or a year ago, and it wasn't there.
• 32:27
  Speaker 10: So if it's a new nodule, that's different than if
• 32:29
  Speaker 10: it's a nodule that's been there for a long period
• 32:31
  Speaker 10: of time.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Dr.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Lederman, if any of our listeners are interested in coming
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: to see you for a consultation, How can they get
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: in touch with you? Because obviously they can hear your
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: radio surgery program at nights here at WOR 710 at
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: midnight and on the weekends. But if they'd like to
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: come in, how do they reach out to you?
• 32:53
  Speaker 10: Well, number one, they can do what you did, which
• 32:55
  Speaker 10: is send me an email. You can send me an
• 32:56
  Speaker 10: email at gil, G-I-L, at rsny.org. You did it yesterday.
• 33:01
  Speaker 10: As you said, I wouldn't have said anything, but you
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: kind of preempted me. So, Patients and listeners can do
• 33:06
  Speaker 10: the same thing Curtis Lewa does, gil at rsny.org. If
• 33:12
  Speaker 10: they don't want to do that, they can call us
• 33:13
  Speaker 10: at 212-CHOICES, 212-CHOICES.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: All right, Dr. Lederman, host of the Radio Surgery New
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: York at midnight and on the weekends and the best
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: in the country at it. Thank you so much, Dr. Lederman.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Good to talk to you.
• 33:30
  Speaker 10: Thank you. We wish the Pope a speedy recovery and
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: all your listeners much good health.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: That's wonderful. When we come back, well, the Cornell University
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: case seems to change by the hour. And every time
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: it looks like, oh, maybe she's not telling the truth or, oh,
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: they did it. Every single day it changes. We'll give
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: you the latest right after the 7 o'clock news.