Latest / Ryan's Journal / A Denial in 40 Minutes—and the Fight for Paper
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- 0:15Forty minutes.
- 0:16That's the whole timeline.
- 0:18At 6:51 on Thursday evening, Ryan sends the formal email with the seven day deadline
- 0:23and the nine verb reservation clause.
- 0:26At 7:31 Mountain Time he's recording himself, and the housing authority has already
- 0:32written back with a flat no.
- 0:34Forty minutes.
- 0:35I've seen tag teams take longer to decide who gets the hot tag.
- 0:39Fast.
- 0:40They were fast.
- 0:41Ten months of nothing, and then forty minutes and boom, a denial.
- 0:46Very efficient.
- 0:47When they want to say no, they are the best in the business,
- 0:51nobody says no faster.
- 0:53But Ryan caught it.
- 0:54He caught the whole thing.
- 0:56And I love what he says, he says it twice, three times: there's where I caught
- 1:01myself.
- 1:02I caught myself.
- 1:03Let me sell you on what just happened here, because it's a great product.
- 1:07You've got a guy on eighteen months of sleep deprivation.
- 1:10Eighteen months!
- 1:12Most of us can't find our keys after one bad night.
- 1:15And he's sitting there at seven thirty one at night, reads a denial email,
- 1:19and spots the exact thing the agency left out.
- 1:23No mention of the interactive process anywhere.
- 1:26Not a sentence, not a hint.
- 1:29One denial, and the conversation they're supposed to be having never even got
- 1:33started.
- 1:34What gets me is how human it is, though.
- 1:36He's tired, and he's honest about it.
- 1:38He keeps starting over, he says I'll double check, I think it was a denial,
- 1:43I'm pretty sure.
- 1:44He's not pretending to be a lawyer, he's just a person at the end of a long day who
- 1:48notices something doesn't add up.
- 1:50And then Ellie, his caretaker, tells him he's not asking for the moon.
- 1:55Honestly, that line is going to stay with me.
- 1:57Not the moon.
- 1:58Just a stamp.
- 1:59Right, and credit to Ellie.
- 2:01He mentioned her as Ellie and then Nelly at one point, but the line is the same
- 2:05either way.
- 2:07I'm not asking for the moon, I'm asking for a reasonable accommodation.
- 2:11And his advocate Susan, he told her he's planning to file a lawsuit and that the
- 2:16housing authority, his words, crapped on us after ten months.
- 2:21She didn't call it unreasonable.
- 2:23Neither did Ellie.
- 2:24That's his corner, and in this business the corner matters.
- 2:27So here's the plan, and it's a good plan.
- 2:29He goes back to the first email, the original request, and he replies to it.
- 2:35He says, okay, that's a denial as I understand it, so now the interactive process
- 2:41starts.
- 2:41Now.
- 2:42Not later.
- 2:43Now.
- 2:44He doesn't argue the denial, he makes them do the thing they skipped.
- 2:49That is a strong move.
- 2:50Very strong.
- 2:51Everybody should be doing it.
- 2:53And let's be clear on what the government itself says, because I always want the
- 2:57receipts.
- 2:58The joint HUD and Justice Department guidance on reasonable accommodations says that
- 3:03when a provider refuses a request as unreasonable, the provider should discuss
- 3:09whether there's an alternative that meets the person's disability related needs.
- 3:14It also calls the interactive process helpful to all concerned.
- 3:19Helpful!
- 3:20That's the word they use.
- 3:21I'll note the document says should and helpful, not that the sky falls.
- 3:27Whether skipping it breaks the law is for a court or a fair housing agency to
- 3:32decide.
- 3:33But as a sales pitch?
- 3:34Ryan's holding the better brochure.
- 3:37And what I like is that he's not just saying no to everything.
- 3:41He's offering ways to get there.
- 3:43First, he wants reconsideration, with the medical support from his doctor,
- 3:47Dr.
- 3:48Koontz, connecting his anxiety about whether a document is real to why he needs it
- 3:54authenticated.
- 3:54The guidance talks about that connection, the nexus, between the disability and the
- 3:59request.
- 4:00He's already thinking about it.
- 4:02Then he builds the fallback ladder, rung by rung.
- 4:05Rung one, a sticker or a symbol of his choosing on the policy documents so he can
- 4:10tell they're the real thing.
- 4:12Rung two, certified mail through the Postal Service with a signature,
- 4:16a traceable paper chain.
- 4:17And rung three, the part that made me stop, if they say postage is too expensive,
- 4:22he offers to split it.
- 4:23Half and half.
- 4:24Fifty fifty.
- 4:25The tenant is offering to help pay for the agency to do right by him.
- 4:29Unbelievable.
- 4:30Fifty fifty!
- 4:31You never see that.
- 4:32Nobody offers that.
- 4:34Tenants don't do that, but Ryan does that.
- 4:37And listen, I'd note the guidance says a person isn't obligated to accept an
- 4:42alternative if it won't meet their needs and their preferred accommodation is
- 4:47reasonable.
- 4:48So he's being generous, but he doesn't have to be.
- 4:51That's leverage.
- 4:52That's momentum.
- 4:54He's the one who looks reasonable, and they're the ones who look like a closed door.
- 4:59One more number, since he's got a clock running.
- 5:02He told us there's a notice from his mailbox claiming he owes about a hundred and
- 5:06thirty dollars.
- 5:08He says he thinks he does owe something, so he's not dodging it.
- 5:11Now he's got a financial dispute stacked on top of a paperwork fight.
- 5:16A hundred and thirty bucks, ten months of silence, and a stamp.
- 5:20That's the whole Greek tragedy.
- 5:22And the thing is, for a lot of us the paper is the scary part,
- 5:26not the money.
- 5:27When you're exhausted and anxious, a letter you can't verify isn't just a letter.
- 5:32It's a worry that doesn't go away.
- 5:35I think that's the part the staff keep missing.
- 5:37It isn't a fight about a stamp.
- 5:39It's about being able to trust what's in your own mailbox.
- 5:42Then he zooms out, and this is where it gets big.
- 5:46He says he's trying to save paper notarization.
- 5:49His argument is that digital opens the door to cyber hacks,
- 5:53malware, viruses, phishing.
- 5:55And he says his information has supposedly been exposed on the dark web,
- 6:00according to the credit bureau he uses as a reference.
- 6:03So in his mind this isn't only his lease, it's the whole sport of notarization on
- 6:08the line.
- 6:09Let's check the scoreboard, because the numbers are interesting.
- 6:12According to the research we've got, 47 states have passed permanent Remote Online
- 6:17Notarization laws.
- 6:18Three haven't.
- 6:20Georgia and South Carolina allow in person electronic notarization,
- 6:24where the signing is digital but the notary and signer still share a room.
- 6:30Alabama uses remote ink notarization, where you meet over video but the paper still
- 6:36gets signed by hand in wet ink and mailed to the notary.
- 6:41Mississippi, a side note, has operated under temporary executive orders instead of a
- 6:47standard permanent statute.
- 6:49So the paper team, they're down.
- 6:51Forty seven to three.
- 6:53But here's the thing, and it's a beautiful thing, paper notarization is still fully
- 6:59valid in all fifty states.
- 7:02All fifty!
- 7:03Deeds, trusts, court filings, they still love paper.
- 7:08Paper is not dead.
- 7:09Paper is not going anywhere.
- 7:12Ryan is not defending something extinct, he's defending something that still wins.
- 7:17And to be fair to him, the argument for paper is real.
- 7:20A person looks at your actual ID in their hands, watches how you're doing in the
- 7:25moment, presses a seal onto a page, and no server outage can erase that.
- 7:32But the other side has a case too.
- 7:34Digital notarization brings tamper evident signatures, identity checks,
- 7:39those knowledge questions, and a required recording of the whole signing session,
- 7:43kept for ten years.
- 7:45Honestly, I'd want to hear both sides before I took a team.
- 7:49Here's my one caution, and I say it with love.
- 7:51Those notarization laws are about how notaries do their jobs.
- 7:56Ryan's request is about a housing authority's policy communications and an
- 8:00accommodation tied to his doctor's recommendation.
- 8:03So the paper versus cyberspace debate is his big picture, but his strongest ground
- 8:09is the narrow one: the request, the nexus, and the missing conversation.
- 8:14That's the smart read.
- 8:15And he knows the clock too, he said himself that about two weeks is the maximum to
- 8:19approve or deny a request.
- 8:21He sounds sure of his footing.
- 8:23Ten months in, with a denial that never even opened the conversation,
- 8:27he says he's going to keep pushing for the notarization.
- 8:29And I'll tell you, after eighteen months without real sleep,
- 8:33he still ended that recording almost laughing.
- 8:36It's a miracle, he says, I almost went up in a flame, but I'm trying to save paper.
- 8:41He's trying to save paper.
- 8:42And you know what?
- 8:43He just might.
- 8:44Reconsideration, rebuttal, certified mail, fifty fifty on the postage.
- 8:50Step by step.
- 8:51He's not done.
- 8:52Not even close.