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Patriots Unfiltered 6/17: Minicamp Leftovers, Team/League Buzz, Offseason Topics · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 3: That's how I saw it. I mean, he has like
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  Speaker 3: incredibly soft hands.
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  Speaker 4: James Pettigrew wants to know for his zone, Paul might
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  Speaker 4: be watching the.
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  Speaker 2: World Cup of the background.
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  Speaker 5: That's hilarious because he's been pooping on the world for weeks,
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  Speaker 5: so now now he's watching it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it just shows you that I'm a monkey. To
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  Speaker 3: forty two into the World Cup. Well, the first fake
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  Speaker 3: injury credit. I just want to speak on behalf of
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  Speaker 3: Evan and I. We want to welcome Mike the Talent
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  Speaker 3: to the talent portion of the show.
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  Speaker 4: Well, what sports market could you live in that you
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  Speaker 4: would actually like?
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  Speaker 2: The hometown of Boston but you don't. I do hate
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  Speaker 2: them all.
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  Speaker 3: I get frustrated with my teams because I'm a good fan.
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  Speaker 3: I could go live in Polukaville and just say, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: two thousand and four was one of the greatest sports
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  Speaker 3: almost in my life.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's back when you still had some innocence.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 4: It is Wednesday here at Jillette Stadium, a special Wednesday
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  Speaker 4: edition just for FIFA.
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  Speaker 2: We did this just for the World Cup.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, we are doing a Wednesday show because yesterday, of
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  Speaker 4: course it was Norway against Iraq here at Boston Stadium.
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  Speaker 2: Let me get it all right.
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  Speaker 4: And this Holland guy, that guy, Yeah, well this Holland.
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  Speaker 3: They can't see them.
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  Speaker 2: No, it really is incredible.
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  Speaker 4: Like I knew he was a good goal scorer, but
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  Speaker 4: when this guy is coming at you because one of
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  Speaker 4: the goals they had the angle of him coming toward
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  Speaker 4: the goal, he's intimidating like like, and he gets from
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  Speaker 4: zero to sixty like that. It's an he's a he's
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  Speaker 4: a locomotive, that this guy. Anyway, So we are truly
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  Speaker 4: into the down days of the NFL. The all the
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  Speaker 4: team is gone. Rookies are here but just for this week,
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  Speaker 4: but you know coaches will be gone.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, and so this is.
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  Speaker 4: Really whatever you want to talk about Wednesday show. We
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  Speaker 4: can talk about World Cup, we can talk about the Celtics,
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  Speaker 4: maybe copying the Patriots and making a big trade. You know,
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  Speaker 4: we they got pressured by the Patriots, like.
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  Speaker 5: We got a Jon now he plays basket. Nope, it's
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  Speaker 5: like a soft jack.
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  Speaker 4: We can talk about Patriots if you want. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know what right now there is to talk about, but
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  Speaker 4: we can. We can get into that. First public practice
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  Speaker 4: will be July twenty fifth. It's a saturdayday, and so
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  Speaker 4: we're looking forward to that. Not really, I'm not really
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  Speaker 4: looking forward to that. I'm looking forward to it, but
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  Speaker 4: I don't want it to come fast, you know. I
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  Speaker 4: want to savor the days before the summer is essentially
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  Speaker 4: over for us.
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  Speaker 6: Michael Scott, you know, Yeah, it's been good there now.
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  Speaker 6: It's been great weather the last couple of days. So
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  Speaker 6: that's why I'm like, yeah, let's you know, a little dryer,
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  Speaker 6: a little but not quite as muggy and hot as
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  Speaker 6: it was last week. So yeah, I enjoy this time
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  Speaker 6: before training camp. But we started recording some training camp
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  Speaker 6: positional preview things, so it's kind of a nice way
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  Speaker 6: to just put kind of a period on the off
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  Speaker 6: season and reassess kind of where everything stands right now.
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  Speaker 6: And I think this the two biggest pieces are just
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  Speaker 6: the Gonzales contract situation and the overall health status at
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  Speaker 6: the edge position. We're two big areas that, you know,
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  Speaker 6: probably most interested once we get to camp. What's that
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  Speaker 6: PP list look like, Harol Landry Akis, what's their availability?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. The accus thing, it seems like uncertain is
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  Speaker 5: the word. I guess, like, I don't really know if
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  Speaker 5: anybody fully knows what's going on. He's posting videos on
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  Speaker 5: his social media of him doing workouts away from the
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  Speaker 5: facility over the weekend, and he had a he did
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  Speaker 5: have a sleeve on his right or left leg and
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  Speaker 5: I can't remember one of the two. Yeah, I'm trying
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  Speaker 5: to think, but he had a sleeve on his on
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  Speaker 5: his knee, but looked like he was moving pretty well
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  Speaker 5: to me. But you know, he's going through cones and
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  Speaker 5: stuff like, it's not like it's football football. But he
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  Speaker 5: did post that, and you know, Mike Ree said some
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  Speaker 5: reporting on it where it was like to some teams
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  Speaker 5: it was this, but to some teams it was that.
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  Speaker 5: So who knows, Like who knows?
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  Speaker 3: So I'm going to use that as sort of a
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  Speaker 3: jumping off point of why I'm a little concerned about this.
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  Speaker 3: Whole situation is now it's been over a week. It
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  Speaker 3: was last Tuesday. I believe that Mike had that his
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  Speaker 3: first press conference in mini camp right last Tuesday. Yep,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, correct, And he sort of talked about quote,
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  Speaker 3: the procedure that he wasn't there, lack on tract, all
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  Speaker 3: that stuff. So that's a that's a good amount of
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  Speaker 3: time for the Beat writers to sort of figure out
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  Speaker 3: what the situation is, and no one has really been
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  Speaker 3: able to do it yet, you know, and Mike was
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  Speaker 3: the only one that really had any information. But even
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  Speaker 3: that as like Greece, yes, as Evan just said, he
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  Speaker 3: had sort of some some vagaries. This is kind of
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  Speaker 3: part of the reason why I'm concerned about this. I
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  Speaker 3: told you I didn't really love the wave Rabel sounded
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  Speaker 3: and appeared. I thought he sounded like he was frustrated
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  Speaker 3: with it when he was telling us about it. The
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  Speaker 3: fact that no one's been able to call Mike or
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  Speaker 3: call somebody and find out specifically what it is tells
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  Speaker 3: me there's some uncertainty as to what they want to say,
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  Speaker 3: which tells me that this isn't just the run of
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  Speaker 3: the mill, like this is. He wasn't not on the
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  Speaker 3: practice field at mini camp because he didn't have a
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  Speaker 3: practice agreement in place even though he wasn't signed. So
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  Speaker 3: the I it's one thing to say like, well, he's
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  Speaker 3: not signed, so he's not at mini camp. I think
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  Speaker 3: he's I think it's the other way around. Why I
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  Speaker 3: think that's why he's not signed is because I think
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  Speaker 3: there's some confusion as to what the situation is. And
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  Speaker 3: otherwise I think we'd know more after a whole more
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  Speaker 3: than a week, eight days, I.
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  Speaker 1: Think we'd know more than we know. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: that's why I'm a little now.
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  Speaker 6: We're all just kind of crossing our fingers and see
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  Speaker 6: what happens when you get to that handful of days
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  Speaker 6: before camp opens and that's when the pewp list comes
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  Speaker 6: out and all that kind of stuff. Or as we
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  Speaker 6: said last week, maybe there's suddenly announcement that he got
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  Speaker 6: signed to a contract and that would be a good
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  Speaker 6: indicator that things are had.
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  Speaker 3: Let's let's hope that that that's what happens. Is you know,
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  Speaker 3: they can, they can you know, maybe his health is
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  Speaker 3: a little bit better. As Evan said, he's posting some
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  Speaker 3: videos of himself working out. Maybe he's on the mend.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he doesn't need to start training camp on any
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  Speaker 3: kind of a list, and they can get his contract signed.
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  Speaker 3: That would be the best. Obviously, the best case.
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  Speaker 5: Sleeve on the left leg looked at left.
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  Speaker 4: So also another thing that came across my time, when
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  Speaker 4: did you hear and I don't know if it's true
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  Speaker 4: that Gonzalez is looking to buy a house in the
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  Speaker 4: area like he was my favorite.
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  Speaker 5: This guy's selling his house, this guy's buying a house.
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  Speaker 3: I did see that a lot of people yesterday were
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  Speaker 3: saying he bought a house in Walpole. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if that's true. I don't know. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to say I don't care because I'm not can
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  Speaker 3: I just those kinds of things don't really move the
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  Speaker 3: needle for me on.
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  Speaker 4: Well, if he actually did buy a house in Walpole
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  Speaker 4: just recently, that's a good sign.
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  Speaker 3: Right if you say so, I would don't know. I've
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  Speaker 3: seen I've seen a million. I've seen a million of
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  Speaker 3: these buy a house, guy's gone the next year, like
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  Speaker 3: I've seen that happen a million times. And I think
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  Speaker 3: he's going to play this year. I don't think he's
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  Speaker 3: gonna like hold out and not play. He's under contract.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's going to play this year.
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  Speaker 4: No, but doesn't doesn't it kind of tell you that
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  Speaker 4: maybe he is expecting to get some money soon.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I me.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen this go a million different ways.
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  Speaker 3: Like I think he's going to resign, So I think
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  Speaker 3: it's going to be a moot point.
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  Speaker 6: But I would have waited for the new money that
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  Speaker 6: I might have been able to splurt into one of
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  Speaker 6: the now will be able.
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  Speaker 5: To just assume the money is coming in his case,
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  Speaker 5: I think.
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  Speaker 3: And now he'll be able to sign.
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  Speaker 5: I think there's also the discussion with the Gonzales thing
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  Speaker 5: about you know, the fact that Drake May is coming
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  Speaker 5: up to and you know there have a lot of
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  Speaker 5: expenses on this team, and uh, you know, I just
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  Speaker 5: I feel like I think the big talking point that
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  Speaker 5: was circling I think might have been one of our
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  Speaker 5: friends Giardi or Andrew Callahan was saying, well, they'd have
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  Speaker 5: three players if you include a J. Brown making top
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  Speaker 5: of the market kind of money. You know, Drake May
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  Speaker 5: eventually Gonzalez and Brown, and that would be a departure
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  Speaker 5: from what you know they've seen. And I would just
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  Speaker 5: say you know, ideally, like you stagger those contracts so
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  Speaker 5: that you're not really paying Gonzales and Drake May the
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  Speaker 5: full boat until twenty twenty eight at the same time.
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  Speaker 5: And at twenty twenty eight, at that point, are we
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  Speaker 5: one hundred percent sure that AJ Brown is going to
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  Speaker 5: be a Patriot three years from now?
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  Speaker 3: You know, like, you know, I.
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  Speaker 5: Think that that's they're in this window right now where
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  Speaker 5: they can afford to do this. Once they both get
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  Speaker 5: expensive at the same time, then I think that that
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  Speaker 5: changes things. But at least for the next two years,
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  Speaker 5: they have this flexibility to to play with some money,
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  Speaker 5: to trade for AJ Brown and make some of these
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  Speaker 5: splashes that they've made. We'll find out in two years,
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  Speaker 5: you know, in twenty twenty eight, if it changes the
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  Speaker 5: way that they do business once those guys are both making,
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  Speaker 5: you know, big time money. If I thought that was
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  Speaker 5: interesting that, you know, just the the whole planning of it,
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  Speaker 5: and Elliott Wolf saying it too, that you know, we
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  Speaker 5: got we got a little bit of a of a
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  Speaker 5: window here. But then the window is going to close
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  Speaker 5: and Drake May is going to be making sixty five million,
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  Speaker 5: and Gonzo's given me making thirty five million, and it's
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  Speaker 5: gonna be a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: Then what do you do?
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  Speaker 3: And to your point, Fred, when you open the show,
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  Speaker 3: just kind of like the downtime now, you know, as
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  Speaker 3: we're waiting, you know, training camps coming and this is
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  Speaker 3: the time. You know a lot of a lot of
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  Speaker 3: these kinds of things get done between the end of
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  Speaker 3: mini camp and the start of training camp. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I I think that's what the direction that we're going.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised to hear soon about some kind
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  Speaker 3: of a an agreement with Gonzales. You know, we'll see
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  Speaker 3: if it's the you know, the full bore, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the full extension and you know, highest paid corner and
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  Speaker 3: all that stuff. But I'd be surprised if nothing happens
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  Speaker 3: between now in training camp.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah not oh really, I mean you don't think maybe
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  Speaker 6: get back into training camp and then I'd be surprised
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  Speaker 6: happens that would start to drag into it a little.
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  Speaker 3: If it drags into training camp, it's not good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's not good. Hopefully it doesn't and hopefully if it
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  Speaker 3: does drag into camp training camp. To your point, Mike,
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  Speaker 3: it's immediate, you know, first couple of days we get
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  Speaker 3: it done. We're just you know, crossing the t's and
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  Speaker 3: dot in the eyes and stuff like that. But I
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  Speaker 3: think once they start lingering into actual time when you're
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be playing, it's not good. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think that, you know, maybe it's rose colored glasses
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  Speaker 5: a little bit. But the fact that he was at
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  Speaker 5: mini camp and even lightly participated in in mini camp,
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  Speaker 5: to me, that was maybe a little bit of an
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  Speaker 5: olive branch of like we're not worlds apart here, Like
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  Speaker 5: if they were truly worlds apart, then you know, you
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  Speaker 5: do the whole thing, right, Like even if you're holding in.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we've seen guys hold in and you know,
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  Speaker 5: Matthew Judahon's sitting on the on the sideline like you know,
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  Speaker 5: or Stefan Gilmour is like off on the hill like
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  Speaker 5: doing conditioning completely away from the team. He's here, but
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  Speaker 5: he's not doing anything. Gonzales even doing individual drills and
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  Speaker 5: the walk through periods tells me that he is at
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  Speaker 5: least the relationship is in the negotiation is at least
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  Speaker 5: going somewhere. I think if it was go nowhere, he
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  Speaker 5: he would have been sitting out completely.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, do you think I had a retort to that.
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  Speaker 4: No, I just thought, are you disappointed that you think
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  Speaker 4: it's going to get done?
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  Speaker 3: Well, why do you do that? Like, why do you
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  Speaker 3: do that? I don't gut you know me, I'm very consistent.
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  Speaker 3: I'm what for a pessimist, No, I'm for the player
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  Speaker 3: right in this league with such little guaranteed money and
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  Speaker 3: just the willingness, you know, like everyone was talking about
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  Speaker 3: A J. Brown. I don't know if I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if A J. Brown is going to be here in
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  Speaker 3: twenty seven, let alone twenty eight. They have no power
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  Speaker 3: the players in that league, the vast majority of them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm not I'm you know, I'm for the player
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  Speaker 3: almost all the time in these situation.
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  Speaker 4: Player from you know, it's a business, so for them too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, all right, So those are some things. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if there's anything else that you want to
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  Speaker 4: throw out there.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, No, this is the time to kind of
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  Speaker 6: focus on what they need and you know, with tight
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  Speaker 6: end positions, you know, maybe somewhere we see a signing
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  Speaker 6: a saw, you know, Taylor cous throwing Farrell Brown out
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  Speaker 6: there for you know, good reason, that's he's been here
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  Speaker 6: and he can block and all that, But I think
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  Speaker 6: this team's pretty well set as we get through the previews.
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  Speaker 6: It's just you're always, I felt, especially on the defensive
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  Speaker 6: side of the ball, you're saying the top of the
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  Speaker 6: depth chart looks pretty good, you know. I mean, could
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  Speaker 6: they be better in a couple of spots maybe, but overall.
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  Speaker 2: I think the state of the team is in good shape.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're in you know, in good shape.
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  Speaker 6: They definitely have some questions, but you know, in regards
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  Speaker 6: to all the contract talk, I would just, you know,
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  Speaker 6: i'd wonder if guys don't develop, you know, if if
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  Speaker 6: everybody kind of develops, and you know, you don't have
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  Speaker 6: a lot of holes. Really, I mean, obviously it's whack
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  Speaker 6: a mole with some of these positions, but uh, you know,
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  Speaker 6: if you don't have to go back and look for
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  Speaker 6: another left tackle, if Acis develops and you don't have to,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I could see a world where next year
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  Speaker 6: you're saying, they got to go find some juice off
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  Speaker 6: the edge.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I could see that being something that you know,
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  Speaker 1: Landry's kind of fallen off.
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  Speaker 6: Acus didn't quite bring the pass rush like we wanted.
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  Speaker 6: Whatever it might be, But you know, but if he
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  Speaker 6: does develop, you can focus the funds on the guys
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  Speaker 6: like Drake May and you know.
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  Speaker 1: And that it just goes back to the lull that
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  Speaker 1: they hit.
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  Speaker 6: Where they were missing on their draft picks. And you know,
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  Speaker 6: we'll see how this class kind of plays out. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: it's not a lot of optimism that people pass the
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  Speaker 6: fourth round are going to come in and be able
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  Speaker 6: to really carve out significant roles. But it'll be an
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  Speaker 6: ongoing kind of thing trying to fill that depth out.
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  Speaker 6: But if they if they the people that they've drafted
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  Speaker 6: and earn those positions develop, I don't think that they're
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  Speaker 6: going to be stretched so thin because of a Gonzales
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  Speaker 6: in May contract. If now, if aj Brown flames out
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  Speaker 6: and they have to go back and find somebody like that,
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  Speaker 6: if you know, if the pass rusher.
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  Speaker 1: Them, then those are premium positions they're going to.
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  Speaker 6: Have to pay for and go look for maybe in
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  Speaker 6: free agency, and that might complicate things.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just look at like, you know, we always
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  Speaker 5: bring up Kansas City, like Kansas City is paying the
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  Speaker 5: quarterback now, and what have they done? They traded Tyreek,
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  Speaker 5: They traded Trent McDuffie. You know, they they're getting out
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  Speaker 5: of these other really big contracts, you know, so, and
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  Speaker 5: what happened they their roster talent has depreciated because when
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  Speaker 5: you're picking thirtieth and then you're jettison guys that because
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  Speaker 5: they're big money players, you know, it's harder to get
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  Speaker 5: that premium talent. You know, at some point like that
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  Speaker 5: that it becomes, you know, a difficult thing to maneuver.
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  Speaker 5: And I just I think we're getting ahead of ourselves
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  Speaker 5: worrying about all that to an extent. But at the
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  Speaker 5: same time, you know, you mentioned tight end, like, is
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  Speaker 5: Eli Riden ready to be a snap right guy as
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  Speaker 5: a rookie right out of the gate, or you know,
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  Speaker 5: are they going to go out and sign a veteran
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  Speaker 5: tight end to bring into camp, because I think that's
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  Speaker 5: asking a lot. I think that's asking a lot of
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: a guy that.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: That's a good question. So obviously they probably need to
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: go out signed someone anyway. But could you see them
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: playing the vast majority of the year with just Hunter Henry?
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: You know, no, I can't.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: I can't see Hunter Henry playing the majority if it's
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: all going to be him.
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: Like your depth chart at tight end is going to
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: be Henry Arden and then like Tanner Arkin or c. J.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Dupree or no, even if you're you know, but if
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: you're throwing Farrell Brown, to me, it doesn't really change
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: the no, yeah, you know, like it's it's still whether
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: or not you think Ridan is ready to be a
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: forty five or fifty percent guy. So to me, when
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: you have a tight end on the on the field,
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: it's going to be Henry and I just wonder if
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: they go in a different direction, you know, you know,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: it's going to be you know, a lot of three
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: receiver sets with just one tight end, the full bat
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: you know, yeah, the full back helps, the full back helps.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: But you know, last year Austin Hooper was a forty
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: five forty eight percent snap guy.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: I don't, but that's that's my point.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: I kind of agree with where you're going. I'm not
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: sure that they look at Raredent now. Maybe by the
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: end of the year he can be something like that,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: but I don't think you're going to get a full
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: year of Austin Hooper like LOWD for Eli Raredan and
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: I don't expect that out of him, like as a as.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: A third round pick, late third round pick. I don't
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: expect him to to be an impact player out of
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: the shoot, especially at that position. But you know, is
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: it a guy like Pharaoh Brown, who I think is
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: more you know, just adding bodies to that room and
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: adding you know, some depth, or is it you know,
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Johnny Smith is still a free agent. You know, Will
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: Disley is still a free agent. Is it a trade
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: you know for somebody that you know a lot of
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: people bring up like Cole Comet, you know, from the Bears,
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: because they have like seventeen tight ends, Like you know,
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: do you.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: That would change the equation in my in my or.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: Do you count on Reggie Gilliam just being sort of
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: a Swiss army knife and a major part of it
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: that you know, kind of mitigates the need for like
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: a true backup tight end.
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: Just puts so much on Hunter Henry and I think
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: he's such an important part that was reinforced me watching
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: OTAs of you know, how comfortable Drake is throwing to him.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Clearly, you know, we'll see.
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: He didn't have a great end to last season, felt
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: like he was kind of tapering off. Maybe he was
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: a little banged up, but that's why, like John new
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: Smith I know it's John hu Smith and we kicked
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: him around plenty when he was here, But Faraol Brown
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: isn't going to really what they had like the one
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: trick play.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I remember they ran to him when he was here. Yeah,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: right right, that was like there only.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: But at least, like I can talk myself into if
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: Hunter Henry went down that John Smith could maybe contribute
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: a little something in the offense.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I you know, I don't know what.
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: It will look like with I mean Josh was here
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: with him, right, so, I mean he knows him a
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: little bit. But it's just such a drop off between
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: Hunter Henry reliable veteran that you know, Drake trust to
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: you know, now if Farrell Brown is your number one
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: because Veritance not ready, Like that's that's a big, you know,
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: big black hole there at the time.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Said they're gonna get another Yeah, what direction do you go?
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: Like is it a body they are they adding a
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: camp body or are they going out and making an addition.
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: That's why I'm like, if you're gonna get Peryl Brown
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: just the block, It's like, well, was that really the
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: best use of resin of what Julian Hill did?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Was saying for he wasn't going to do much more
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: than that, Yeah, but I think probably better.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: Than yeah, right, and like more dynamic, like Farah Brown
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: is gonna put his hand in the dirt and block,
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: you know, as an inline tight end they're hoping. I
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: think that Julian Hill was going to bring sort of
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: a unique flavor to that. I I just look at
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: that spot in the edge spot as the two spots
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: where they had a plan, and now it seems like
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: the plan is maybe there's some cracks in the plan that.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: That happens every year somewhere, right, And.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Obviously Hill's injury, but at least with Hill and with
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: tight end, like somebody got hurt. It's like you know,
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: you knew, you know, going into training camp that that
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: spot is missing a guy you were planning on having.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: Whereas that edge, like you don't you don't necessarily one
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: hundred percent know if Landry and Akis are going to
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: be the guys you want them to be, but you
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: can you can find an answer for the fact that
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: Pharaoh or that Julian Hill got hurt. Yeah, you know,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: like you see that like it's just the.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Fear of Hunter Henry getting hurt.
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: I feel like, is you know what I mean, Like,
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: if Hunter Henry doesn't get hurt, they'll be fine.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: They can figure they're gonna.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: Go four wide, deuce y Maat, Collin's gonna play tight
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: end right problems.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Like you know, they got enough.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: Lomu can play a little if they need to make
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: him the you know, the third tackle, that kind of
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: thing with Gillian.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: They have some options.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: Westover has been in the mix, but it's just there's
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: a lot on Hunter Henry I feel like. And that
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: speaks to the overall team of going back to the
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: point of if they stay as healthy as they stayed
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: last year, they'll be great. But I don't think it's realistic.
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: I think that they're gonna stay that already aren't and
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: they're gonna be really tested in some of their death
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: and in some ways I'm wondering because I remember last
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: year the conversation was they didn't really have much depth.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I kind of feel the same way.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: I mean, maybe an offensive line, you know, with with
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: the tackles, you're building a little depth there, but.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Like running back, not a lot of depth.
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: You know, on the defensive side, linebacker, cornerback, not a
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: lot of proven depth behind the top two safeties if
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: one of those two guys gets hurt, you know, And
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: so I just they got to be better in the
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: draft in these coming years and rounding out that depth.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I give them a lot of credit
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: for doing it as quickly as they have. So now
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: we're sort of getting greedy because I agree with everything.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: You don't have a number three tight end, Yeah, I
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: mean I agree with everything you said. Like I think
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: the offensive line to me is a house of cards.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, you have a guy who's played half of
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: the games that he's been eligible for, and you are
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: completely relying on him to solidify that area in Vera
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Tucker Vera Tucka. You know that that's supposed you know,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: that's also supposing Jared Wilson's better at center, you know,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: so it can easily pull a thread and unravel on you. Yes,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: you are much more equipped with a rookie first round
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: pick to serve as your your third guy there somewhere.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: And I think you could play guard too. I mean
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: we've seeing him trying to cross train him a little
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: bit during mini camp, so maybe he can fill in
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: at left guard just as well as as Ben Brown.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: You know, but you can see where you know, not
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: a lot has to happen for you to feel differently
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: about the state of your team.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I mean and maybe maybe to not defend them,
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: but you know, just the other side of the corner
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: being a little optimistic about it is that you know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: they did lose Mill Williams last year, they did lose
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: Roberts Splain for a little bit and it wasn't as good,
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: but they still found a way to piece it together
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: and you know, guys stepped up like a Jack Gibbons
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: or you know this. So that gives me some encouragement
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: because last year they got some solid performances from death
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: guys that you know, you weren't really expecting, defensive.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Line Gibbons being one, you know, uh, Chucky Trees.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: You know, like they did get some contributions from some
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: death guys. I just want to see how those guys
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: develop and what kind of noise they make in training
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: camp to say, is there you know, is there anything
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: in any of these guys that they've you know, the
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: cornerbacks that they've drafted in the late day three, anybody,
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: is anybody going to emerge and you.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Know, show us something that that's surprising and exciting.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: But that part of the like because I do feel
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: like we're being a little bit pessimistic, like that part
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: of the roster is like this is conversations of whether
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: or not they're gonna win the super Bowl, Like this
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: isn't like conversations you're not gonna win ten games Like
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: this is like you know, if they don't have a
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: good second tight end, then like you know, maybe a
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: matchup in the playoffs is going to be right back
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: to like yeah, you know because they come because O'Brien
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: would make fun of me and Andy Hart at the combine.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how you guys do it, but they.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: Like a little bit like I'm sure Ellie Wolf is
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: sitting in his office right now looking up at the
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: depth chart on his board, thinking the exact same things
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: that we're talking about, wondering.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: How can we get better at this position? What kind
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: of player do we need? Do we have enough?
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: You know?
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: And that's you know, you're always thinking in that way
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: of how do they get better?
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Where are the holes? Where is the depth?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Always building?
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Always?
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: I mean me and do stay up and I thinking
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: about these things. Guy probably never sleeps.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty depth charts out. You know, I don't sleep.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: It's just not because of that.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: All right, So there's some football talk for you. Any
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: summer movies that.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: You're looking forward to, A nice little segue.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Going to any anything who goes still goes to the movies.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I went to well, I went, we saw Star Wars,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: went to that. I see that one.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: You don't go.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: Fine, there's like a couple of ones just not a
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: big movie goer person, but there's a couple.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Of movie going like, yeah, she doesn't really like.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm interested. I I love Christopher Nolane, love all
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: his stuff. I'm a little bit I don't know. I'm
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: a little scared that this is that this is gonna
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: not really But you like Christopher.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Nolan, Yeah, yeah, no, it should be Goodopher Nolan doesn't no,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: I know, right, I mean I find as an Iliad
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: and yeah, yeah, yeah, no interest.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: But his movies.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: You don't like the historical recreations even in their mythology.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: No, I just don't have much interest in that one.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: That was long, Matt Damon long stuff.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: I think it is going to be long.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: It's supposed to be like three plus hours, really three.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: Plus hours you can, you know, versions it's we're not
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: doing it day by day, you know, maybe it's home
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: or I have to like I have to save, like
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: you know, our movie theater experiences for something that's really
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: important about disclosure. Yeah, I've heard good things about that.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: I don't I'll probably watch that sometime and streaming. I'm
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: interested disclosure.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Is this front was Disclosure Day?
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Spiel Day?
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I heard of that one. No, I
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: don't apply.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gathering.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: I guess it's the day that they disclosed to the
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: public that yes, we're not alone.
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I probably wait on that one. I am
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: excited to see this new theater though, that they're putting
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: in next door to us. They get a lot of matinees,
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: they got a lot of recliners and all that, you know,
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: drinks and everything.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: It's the news. Go to the movies.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I do once in a while.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: There's a little place down the street called Heritage Theaters,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: which I called the Alex from the Seinfeld episode. You know,
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: when Kramer was involved with that little theater that they
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: were storing the Alex Theater, I remember, and I had
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: a museum on the second floor.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: You don't remember.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I don't remember that one.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: And Kramer ate the hot dog and got sick. They'd
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: been sitting there for like decades. You don't remember that
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: one Helene lost her button and she had her thing open.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Oh I do remember that. Yeah, I remember that that.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think the last movie. I don't even
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: gone to the movies very often, probably like Top Gun Maverick.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: It was the last time I went.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: To Well that was the first movie everyone went to
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: after COVID.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was the last time I was actually
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: at the movie theater.
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: I think, if it's visually exciting, like I saw Star
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: Wars and three D went to see you know, Top
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: Gun Maverick, Like you know what I mean, if there's
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: a reason I feel like I need to see it
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: on a big screen and have that kind of experience,
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: then I'll do.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I still like going to the theater.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I do enjoy the experience. I just
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: don't do it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: I feel like that, you know, I didn't go to
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: the theater to see Oppenheimer and I watched it on
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: my iPad on the plane and like it definitely the same.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, like I probably this is probably
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: a mistake, Like I was a.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Too dramatically, Like I'm sure if you were home on
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: a sixty inch screen, maybe I don't know, you got it,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: like that's its cave. It will be fine, but you
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: watch it.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: Most of my on the plane, Yeah, most of my
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: movie watching happens on just not a big movie person,
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: So most of my movie watching things happen on the plane.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: You got to watch silly movies on planes that you
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: don't have to necessarily hear every single line of dialogue
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: to understand what's going on.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Well, that's a big problem. Is really more like the
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: new Like you can't watch a movie that like that's
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: really you know, shows too much, so I gotta be
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: careful of which ones I pick.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: You know, you see the earth Winded Fire doc yet
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I did?
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Did you like it? It was okay? Just okay, it
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: was okay. I thought our colleague a show a little
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: bit higher on the overall. I love earth winding Fires,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: you know, and I enjoyed the documentary. I think he
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: was a little higher on the dock than I was.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: But I was a little disappointed just to see how
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: how much of a jerk Maurice White it was. Rest
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: in Peace, Yeah, like.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Is what's his name, the guy that used to call
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: all the time. Was he involved with Maurice White or
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: was that Murice Starr.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Murray Starr, Mury Starr, Yeah, okay, yeah, baby love ye Yeah, yeah,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: it was. It was good. I mean, if like it's
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: that's right in my wheelhouse. I was very interested. I'm
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I'm always when I watched those kinds of documentaries of
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: like like Billy Joel the Eagles, like this a handful
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: of Beg's was a really good one. I'm always interested
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: in sort of the chronology of the creativity, you know,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: what leads to what and how it all comes about.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Like Let's Groove is I've Said to You a Million
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Times is my favorite song of all time. It was
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: kind of an accident, like they got it from the
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: husband of one of the women that were in the
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: emotions and the emotions you know best of my love
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Oh I know the song. Yeah. So like one of
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: those guys they wrote, he gave them like four songs
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: and Let's Group was one of them, and it kind
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: of bridged the gap for them from like the seventies
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: like funk disco kind of you know into the eighties
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: with a lot it was you know, more like drum machine,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: you know, you know that kind of stuff.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Do you like hearing song coming together?
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Is that they had that kind of footage?
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: No, And that's why I was got a little disappointed
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: with the documentary in general. This was more of a
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: just kind of a character piece on Maurice White than
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: it was about like the actual making of the music.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I love that stuff.
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: That's what I loved about that Beatles Dock was when
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: you see them sitting around like trying to figure out
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: the song.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: You're like, that's not it, Paul, come on, like you
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: know that, you.
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: Know, coming up with the lyrics and pitching different things,
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: and it's like songs you already know, but.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: That that you'd really like. Mike, did you ever watch
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: the yacht Rock documentary? Yeah, so some of the stories
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: with Kenny Loggins and Michael McDonald Christopher Cross are just
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: mind blowing, Like how they came up with some of
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: those You.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Can hear it doesn't sound quite right yet, you know,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I love it. I love that stuff, but.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the creative process. All right, thanks for bringing that up. Fred,
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: You like I did enjoy that? Uh? It was? It
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: was good, I would say good, not great.
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• 30:32
  Speaker 4: It's whatever you want to talk about today because the
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: team is off, but we keep working so we have
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: to keep bringing it always. But we need your help.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: So let's go to the forest brought. Let's go to
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: the phones. We'll see what Sam in North Carolina, what's
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: on your mind?
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Sam?
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: What's going on?
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Hey?
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: Hey Evan, I know, I know you've been keeping up
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: with it. I prefer Isaiah Evans selfishly. How to do
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying? The dude the flamethrower. I
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: think it'd be great in the system that ju miszooa
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: left the room. I don't know how long jum mazoo
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: is going to be in Boston, But who who, who
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: do you want out of the draft?
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Would have suit it?
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: And I appreciate it.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: All right, thanks Sam.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Celtics pick late. They're trying to trade up in the draft,
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: I think, but they picked like twenty seventh or something
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: like this, So it's pretty hard to say without knowing
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: who's gonna go.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Well, aren't they if they get Giannis. Aren't they going
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: to lose that pick.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: Probably if they trade the pick? Yeah, yeah, yeah so
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: but they right now they I think as it goes
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: by a regular season record for some reason.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: It's somebody upstairs who's really tuned into the NBA that
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: says he thinks it's it's gonna happen.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: I know who you're talking about, and I really tuned
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: into the NBA as a stretch.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Wow wow wow wow.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, all right, yeah, I should have witnessed seven. Talking
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: to Browley today, was you know, Bradley.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Bradley Bradley is our resident Nick fan.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: I gave I said congratulations to him. That was big
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: of me.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: That was congratulated him on the title, and then spent
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: the next ten minutes telling them why that that was meaningless.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: I just thought it was great, it was vintage.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: They waited fifty three years, and then like, it's not
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: even the most important sporting event that's going on right now.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Wow, you really are?
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: So they just like, yeah, they just got totally upstaged.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: It was like, Oh, everybody's celebrating the Knicks, but there's
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: also just all these like meanwhile, Bill's.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: Still celebrating the easy path championship that the Celtics had.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: I haven't heard that one before, I know, but like
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: you know, that's what happens when you is what it is.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thank you Sam. Let's go to d
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: C herms there. What's up, herm?
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: What's going on?
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: Then?
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: How you doing?
• 32:51
  Speaker 10: Hi?
• 32:52
  Speaker 11: I'm doing well.
• 32:53
  Speaker 12: I'm enjoying the weather.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: So two quick questions. My first question is about gave
• 33:01
  Speaker 9: Agis and given the position he plays, but obviously it's
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: not ideal for any young guy to miss any type
• 33:09
  Speaker 9: of time, right, especially not when it comes to manetar
• 33:12
  Speaker 9: mini camp. So if he happens to miss a little
• 33:16
  Speaker 9: bit of training, camp is maybe less punitive for him
• 33:19
  Speaker 9: given a positioned place, right, Because I think Mike alluded
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: to the next last time, I think last week, because
• 33:27
  Speaker 9: ultimately he's probably told listen, stand right here, beat your
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: man and get to the quarterback, right. So maybe I'm
• 33:35
  Speaker 9: thinking about it too simplicit, but I guess my first
• 33:39
  Speaker 9: question is is it best punitive for an edge Russia
• 33:43
  Speaker 9: to miss time compared to like, obviously any other position.
• 33:46
  Speaker 9: And my second question is, in the spirit of the
• 33:50
  Speaker 9: World Cup, if you guys were to be tasked to
• 33:55
  Speaker 9: fix soccer in America? Right, how would you go about it?
• 34:00
  Speaker 13: Because I think overall there's more like a pay to.
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: Play system in place that sort of eliminates really people
• 34:10
  Speaker 9: who can't really for the sport, but not necessarily the best.
• 34:14
  Speaker 9: The best athlete, right obviously play a sport. So those
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: are the two questions that have taken off the air.
• 34:21
  Speaker 9: Go black Stars.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, So what exactly was the question with soccer?
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: How do you fix?
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: How to fix it?
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: So very qualified to be so if we're saying it's broken,
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: it's it's because they're not getting enough people watching.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Is that why it's broken?
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: He's talking about developing? Why is the United States what
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: we borderline Top twenty instead of like among the powers
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: in the world developing?
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: You because I think that our kids play more sports,
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: and it's the talent is split up more. I think
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: in other countries there's like maybe three major sports that
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: if you're in athlete, you play one of those three sports.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: The vast majority of the world, it's soccer, soccer, soccer, soccer, soccer,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: maybe basketball, Like that's how it goes virtually everywhere in Europe,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: well virtually everywhere in Latin America.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: It depends in the country. Like if you're in India,
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: it's cricket, you know. If you're in Switzerland it's skiing,
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: you know. So each country has their other sport. But
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: in soccer, yeah you know what I mean.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: But soccer is one.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, World Soccer's won and then there are another.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Best it's four. But I also don't know, probably lower.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: I don't know if we.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Have no I know, I'm saying at best it's it's
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: more popular than hockey. Yeah, I don't know.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: Have the knowledge from a coaching and development standpoint, uh,
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: to properly develop the kids that do want to play
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: soccer in this country that do want to focus on
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: that sport, whereas these other countries they're like kind of
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: saying the same thing, but like they're they're born into
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: it where they like they know how, Like we know
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: how to coach baseball, we know how to coach basketball,
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: we know how to coach hockey players, we know how
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: to coach football players. I don't think that we have
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: yet the youth and like sort of coaching chops to
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: properly do that.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: That's why they are overseas. I think that's part of it. Yeah,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I think it's chicken or the.
• 36:21
  Speaker 14: Like the countries, it's very necessary. Like the only way
• 36:23
  Speaker 14: you're getting out of the country is to be a
• 36:24
  Speaker 14: pro athlete.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: So you but like if you're if you even if
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: you said that, Like I understand what you guys are
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: saying that we break up our athletes even more, but
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: even if our if we had like a really athletic
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: I don't. I guess what I'm getting at is, I
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: don't think our issue in the United States and the
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: top level is that we don't have good enough athletes.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: We don't have good enough soccer players. Right, those are
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: two different things. Yeah, Like I don't think.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Think if like Tyreek Hill was one of those better players,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: I don't like, if you had that caliber of an athlete,
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think.
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: I just don't think it's part of.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Author he'd be great.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you would. That's but that's
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: not because we don't coach it. We don't teach it.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Well, Okay, I see what you're saying. He wouldn't get
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: the competition in the coaching.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: I don't think that the issue for the current uns
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: US men's national team is that the guys aren't athletic enough.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: They're not fast enough, they're not strong enough, they're not
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: big enough. That's not the issue. The issue is they're
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: not talented enough.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Well, he's not going to have enough.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Thing.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: But here's what's changing a little bit.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: Manchester, United has an academy here in the United States.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Real Madrid has an academy in the United States right now.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: Right But I think, you know a lot of that
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: is maybe US bringing in foreign people to run those things.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter who's running, And my point is it does.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe the next generation of kids are going to
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: get that.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: I hope so. But I just think that that's the difference.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: Like I don't think that like you know, Chris Richard
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: or Christian Polisic or Weston McKinney or any of these
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: guys are less physically gifted in terms of athletic raw
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: athleticism then the other players in the world. They just
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: don't have the touch, they don't have the accuracy, they
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: don't have the skill, the precision, Right, So how do
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: you kind of go out and develop that? Now, this
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: US men's national team is probably the most skilled team
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: I've ever seen in my lifetime, but even still, like
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: we make the quarterfinals, we're going to be happy. So
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: like we're still and that's just the top team, that's
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: not the you know, everybody underneath it too. So I
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: think it's a little bit of a chicken or the
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: egg thing. But like the way we develop talent, like
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: we're we're really really good at developing basketball players, Like
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: we know how to shot mechanics, passing, seeing the floor, dribbling,
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: all the skills that go into playing basketball. Do we
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: know how to do that in soccer the way the
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Europeans do or the South Americans do.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Probably.
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: I just think there needs to be a want, and
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: it's there's no want from the majority of the population
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: in the United States to you know, in the town
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: in Europe where you're going to go and everyone's playing
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: soccer and it's the most competitive sport and everyone is
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: trying to be better than everyone else. Here, there's a
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: lot of different options. It's just not a part of
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: our fabric. And I don't think there's an answer to
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: this question. How do you make soccer part of the
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: fabric of America.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: It's just too many other things.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's my point.
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: You know, hockey is part of the fabric of Canada.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: And you look at you know, our our you know,
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: other countries across the pond looking and saying, well, how
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: do we get to be like Canada?
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: How do we make get good at hockey? You can't.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: This is part of who their country is.
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: Everyone wants to play hockey, kids out on the farm
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: in Saskatoon, to you know, people in Toronto and Montreal.
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: Everybody wants to play hockey and that makes everybody better
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: and it feeds everything.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: Everything saying the same thing though, because like the fabric,
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: and part of that is knowing how to coach it
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: and knowing how to develop it and knowing how to fight.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: But look at baseball, why are these small countries in
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: South America? Why, you know, relatively speaking, the percentage of
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: people coming out of there is much greater than in
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: America because they all play.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: It's what they do.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: The kids play baseball all day long on dirt, but
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: they get good.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of kids around in the United
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: States do play soccer. In fact, probably too much, like
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: a lot of these like the U Soccer now, like they're.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Playing, but they're not getting coaching.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: And then that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's that, but I do. I think
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: they they had an academy in the nineties, Like did
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: they talk about Like Mike just brought up hockey with
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: the like the US development you know, national development team,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: which I think is kind of coincidental that we won
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: the gold medal. Like, I don't think it's because of that,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: but you know, if you could convince me otherwise, maybe
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: you're right. I think they've tried these things. I think
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: unless you get I think Mike hit it like the fabric.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about strict athleticism. I'm talking about the
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: caliber of player you are. And I'm sorry. We don't
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: send our best. We send the best that want to
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: play soccer. And in this country, that's a very like
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: you're well down the list of of your athletes, whatever
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: they're in, you're well down the list of soccer players,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: and around the rest of the world, the vast majority
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: of the world, you're sending your very best. So that's
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: bridging the gap in terms of the population differences in
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: some of these countries, because that's all they want to do.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: But but even then, I think if that's all we
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: wanted to do. Give us ten years and we would
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: be we'd be a.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Top five team, the Tyreek Hills of the world.
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: Playing throughout his youth and playing against people who are
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: just as fast as him.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Maybe you know, and now he becomes.
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: And for me, it all starts with the desire of
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: the people who want to play at the ball desire.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: I think it's a great world, and.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: There are there are handfuls and pockets.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: I think that's all.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I think that's all true.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: But I think saying that Tyreek Killers would just automatically be better.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: That's using him.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: That was just a one off example. No, I'm not
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: saying him individually. I just hear that a lot.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Like as for example, Kobe Bryant was thought to be
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: one of the greatest youth soccer players when he was
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: growing up with his day in Italy. Imagine if he
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: played soccer, if he was that good, if he and
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: if he kept playing soccer, yeah, I mean he might
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: be talking about one of the all timers, like the
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: way we talk about MESSI and.
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: I mean we we knew, we would know. There's no
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: way to prove you wrong or right. So like I
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: can't argue with That's why I said, Mike, I just
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: think't feel like we get I hear that a lot
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: from people around here that like, well, if like we
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: took every athlete from that was you know, because soccer
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: is not really typically a sport where the taller is
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: not a tall people sport.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: Like basketball, except yeah, tell that to Holland.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: But but like Holland and slots on and those guys
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: are all tall.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: We have three hundred and fifty million people in our
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: country and we're not as good as countries who have
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: a tenth of what we have. Yeah, there's a reason why,
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: because the best athletes play soccer.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: And it's that's not the case.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: That's like everybody, it's like everything else. I think that's
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: part of it. I think what Evan's talking about is
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: part of it. What Mike's talking about. It's it's there's
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: never one thing, no, never one thing.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Point is in those countries, Soccer is it.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: It's soccer is life.
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: But if you look at it, but you look and
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: it's not here and I know it's only one game,
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: but if you look at the way that they played
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: on Friday night against Paraguay, you know, poach their coaches
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: is really really good. And he gave them organization, he
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: gave them structure, he gave them a way to play,
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: like a system to play in. And that's the best
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: game the US men's national team has ever played at
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: the World Cup. And all it took was one really
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: really good coach putting together a team that actually made
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: sense on paper, in a system that actually made sense
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: for their skill set, and they played one of the
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: best games they've ever played in a hundred years. So like,
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: if you'd done that, you know, he's just one guy.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: He can't go and coach every single kid in America.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: Like he's only coaching the national team. But like, I
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: think that we have enough talent that if it was
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: you developed and used correctly, we would be competed and.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: To to kind of play your side of the street.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: You know, you have a you have kids.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: I had a kid, You have kids, And you see
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: as they grew up, they gravitated to the things that
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: they had the most success with, the things that they
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: found their own aptitude, and those are the things that
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: they they were willing to practice because they were seeing success,
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: whether it's a musical instrument or sports or whatever. And
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: so you can make the argument that the best soccer
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: players in America are playing soccer because at an early
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: age they were exposed to different sports and they decided,
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: I'm best at soccer. I'm going to keep playing it. Yeah,
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep playing I'm gonna.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: Choose so and more like this team that they put
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: together for this World Cup is supposed to be the
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: best that we've ever had.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: Well, but to finish my point, so you can make
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: the argument we are we do have the best soccer
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: players playing soccer, but they're not as good as across
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: the sea's because they're not getting the right coaching and
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: they don't get the type a competition that these other
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: kids get when they play.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: And we know that competition makes you better, rising makes
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: you better.
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think a lot of it's you know,
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: it's the same lines is just like they just know
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: how to play the sport. It's in the it's it's
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: ingrained in them, the natural instinct.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Of how to play this sport.
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: Yes, and you know to the fabric thing, I don't
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: think that that the IQ.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I think we'd be better, Like you only
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: need to score a goal.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: Right, It's not We're not great, but we are getting better.
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: From you know, from my perspective being you know, an
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: official with USA Hockey and having done that now for
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: almost you know, ten years, you get training every year
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: and you see the direction that USA Hockey is going. Now,
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: it's not the complete same decision thing because hockey is
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: more popular here and there is, especially in the Northeastern
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: and you know, Minnesota, Michigan, there's a large percentage of
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: kids who that want to play hockey. And it does exist,
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: like I said, where everybody's playing hockey. They're playing all
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: these leagues there making each other better. But it's been
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: interesting to see how USA Hockey from that perspective, is
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: trying over the last few years to change their style
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: and to you know, to get rid of the dump
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: it back in and you know, tag up off side
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: so that teams have to regroup and they have to
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: move the puck more and you know, playing more into
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: the skill and trying to foster that. I agree with
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: Paul's point of yeah, just because America one doesn't necessarily
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: mean like these are all the policies starting.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: To pay off.
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: But it's a little bit of a higher level conversation
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: where You're not like America where you're like in the
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: bottom trying to get up. You're you know, you're a
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: good team already, but you're trying to really get to
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: that elite.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: My point was like, basically, when when you were saying,
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: like Canada they grew up and that's all everybody, you know,
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: there's no way you could be that just because the
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: US beat Canada doesn't mean that you're now better than them. No,
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Like it's you know, no, and it's and it's.
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: Been even hockey is like a niche sport.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, I'd be willing to say that there's there's
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: a lot of people that probably think soccer is higher
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: rank to than hockey. That's why I said it could be.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: It could be for no, I'm talking about the US. Yeah,
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: like it's you know, it's certainly football, basketball, baseball, one, two, three. Sure,
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: I would say in popularity with with you know, the
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: athletes and the kids and whatnot. But there's probably an
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: argument that you could say soccer is even more popular.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: So let me ask you this question, because I was
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: having this conversation with somebody about soccer. NFL is playing
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: more games internationally overseas. What would happen if the Premier
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: League decided to do the same thing and said and said,
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: we're gonna start playing not just friendlies, We're gonna play
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: our regular season games in the United States.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: Because we because we they they play friendlies here. Yeah,
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: I know frequently, But it's the games that count.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: The games that count, real games, I suppose for I.
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: Just the thing that's like getting to me is we're
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: now in year whatever since the MLS started, and people
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: are still talking about grassroots and trying to get people
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: get it into the fabric of the society.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: At one point you say.
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: It's just something, it's a leap you can't make right now,
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: it's you know, I don't know.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know what.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that Premier League would kill MLS if
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: they did that.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: It's what I'm saying.
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: What are you saying, though, that getting a chance to
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: watch watch Premier League will get kids?
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: In other words, the hope that the NFL has by
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: doing what they're doing overseas the Premier League does here.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Do they care though? Does the Premier League Premier League
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: care about Maybe I don't.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: They pay NBC on Peacock to have Saturday Mornings Like
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: I said, Manchester United has an academy over here.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: They literally have an office in New York City.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: So that's it's a thing for FIFA, as it is
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: for the NFL to get in.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: For these brands, these teams to do to get our audience.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: Of course it is. We're the richest economy in the world.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: Why wouldn't they want to penetrate.
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: I think the biggest problem is that there's all every
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: four years, there's always a lot of excitement about the
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: World Cup here and international soccer in the US, but
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: there's no club like equivalent. So this was right now,
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: the Boston has got FIFA fever, man. I mean it is.
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: You go downtown right now and between the dudes in
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: kilts and the Norway fans now and the US fans,
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: and it's it's crazy. It's it's really fun. But it's
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: gonna go away. Yeah, And there's none events, there's nothing
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: to fill the spectacle, right and and so once the
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: World Cup is over, it's not like we're all going
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: to at no offense, going to be starting to go
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: to MLS games and like all of a sudden be
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: super into it. No, it just this is lightning in
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: a bottle, like, this is a very unique situation where
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: a lot of things are happening, where a host city,
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: the US team is competitive, Like, it's a lot of
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: things that are happening at the same time that are
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: allowing this to kind of take off.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: That very last thing that Evan just said too, I
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: think is really important for how it's It's kind of
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: like World Cup fever right now. Don't discount the fact
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: that they played that game Friday night and it was
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: all my snark aside. It was a very atypical soccer game.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: They come out and score three goals in the first half,
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: and they look like the They looked like a bunch
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: of peleys out there. It's like the greatest spectacle ever.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: But that doesn't usually you get games like the game
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: that Spain had the draw with Cape verd And you know,
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Spain is one of the greatest teams in the world.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: They completely and totally dominated the game and they tie
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: zero zero. Sorry, nil nil.
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: It was one of the best zero zero.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: But I'm saying, if that's what happened to the US,
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: if they got killed and couldn't generate any offense and
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: couldn't you know, they didn't I mean, Cape Verd didn't
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: even have possession of the ball the vast majority of
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: the game, let alone get any chances to score, and
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: it ends in a nil nil tie. You're not getting
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: this like everybody saw that. Everybody saw the US play
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: remarkably well, and they're like, wow, we can win this.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Now you get like the portnoise on board, like you know,
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: we're going to be the next World Cup champ and
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: this that. You know, they're all getting excited because they
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: saw that the impact it can have when you play
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: like that. A lot of people were watching. I think
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: it had like twenty seven million viewers. Perfect time. It
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: was nine o'clock on a Friday night. You know, it's
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: really good time slot. I think a lot of confluence
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: of events in a positive direction for US soccer happened,
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: Over the the question is is like what do you
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: how do you continue the momentum once the World Cup
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: goes away? Right, because it's really hard, Like I am
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: not invested in any other team like I am with
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: the US men's team, but the US men's team only
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: plays every couple of years like they so like, you know,
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: I don't know how you feel that void domestically in
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: terms of club team level to like give people the
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: same sort of feeling that they have right now. I mean,
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: you know that that game was like as somebody that
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: has followed it for a while now, like that was
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: like that was euphoric, Like I've never seen a US
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: team play that well before ever, and like they it
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: was incredible, Like it was incredible that to see them
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: do that at the World Cup and to do it here,
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: like to have it to do it on home.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: So I think this is the first year that they
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: had forty eight teams.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: It's helped, but it's also worked.
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: It's helped, it's helped in hurt, and it's hurt in
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: the fact that I think draws the.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: Groups are some of them, but the group seven of
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: them Germany one seven to one Germany. Yeah, Germany big
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: teams are dominating Spain.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: The groups are watered down a little bit, which I
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: don't like because it's it's it should be semi hard
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: to get out of the group, like not as like
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: a power, but like as a team like the US
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: usually has to scrap to get out of the group.
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: Now like they you know, they probably are going to
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: get out of the group pretty easily, so that it's
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: hurt that. But I think that we also are unique
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: in United States. It's a melting pot of different cultures
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: and different backgrounds and ethnicities, and allowing forty eight teams
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: in has allowed all of those people.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not saying, you know.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: From that point, but I'm just saying from a strictly
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: results basis, you're seeing you know, the Argentinas and even
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: the US dominating because there's a lot of lower end
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: competition in this tournament right now that I.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: Think there shouldn't be three first timers. Yeah, I think
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: there were three nations that are qualified for the first time.
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: And a bunch of one like you know, like Scotland
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: hadn't been in it since ninety eight. I don't think,
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: you know, Norway similar, So there's some of that going
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: on for sure. But uh, you know, they Paraguay I
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: think would have qualified probably anyway because they played really
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: well in the qualifiers. They actually beat Brazil and Argentina
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: in the qualifiers. Uh so out of South America. But
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: you know, I know, is Iraq in the World Cup
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: if there's not forty eight teams?
• 53:40
  Speaker 15: Like?
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: No?
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Right, no, All, right, back to the phones, let's see
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: who is Oh this he's been hanging on the longest,
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: So I guess I have to go to Christian in La.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: What's up Christian?
• 53:52
  Speaker 7: And you guys and you guys and you got three
• 53:55
  Speaker 7: quick things. But my second point I really want to
• 53:58
  Speaker 7: dial dial in on. Firstly, soccer. The way to fix
• 54:01
  Speaker 7: soccer is understanding this country and this culture. America is
• 54:04
  Speaker 7: an image based society, culture based society. So unlesson until
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: you create soccer heroes in this country that kids want
• 54:12
  Speaker 7: to be like and grow up to play like, you're
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: not going to have any significant investment or interest in
• 54:16
  Speaker 7: growing the game of soccer in this country, just because
• 54:19
  Speaker 7: we're all about image and you know, in this country,
• 54:22
  Speaker 7: it would help if we had a hero.
• 54:23
  Speaker 12: Yep, It's definitely the key to development, right.
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: We are a hero worshiping society in this country, especially
• 54:28
  Speaker 7: off sports heroes. Secondly, and this one, I want to
• 54:32
  Speaker 7: really dial on it because I've been thinking about this
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: for several days, but I didn't just want to come
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: out and stop something. But this is this is the
• 54:38
  Speaker 7: hard truth. Mike Rabel's job and Elliott Well's primary job
• 54:43
  Speaker 7: is to make this team better year by year. Mike
• 54:47
  Speaker 7: Rabel's job, especially with the draft. Even though you have
• 54:50
  Speaker 7: Elliott Wolf putting together things and making decisions, the buck
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: stops with Mike Brabel, and his job is to make
• 54:55
  Speaker 7: sure that the draft produces players that are going to
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: make this team better upcoming season. Mike Rabel blew this
• 55:03
  Speaker 7: draft because of his lack of focused distractions and his
• 55:07
  Speaker 7: bad decision and bad character for what he did. He
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: was not downs in on the draft. We wound up
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: in the draft getting a player with our number one
• 55:14
  Speaker 7: choice who primarily and possibly won't even play this year.
• 55:18
  Speaker 7: Our second round player is hurt and probably and primarily
• 55:22
  Speaker 7: won't play this year. Now, there is no way stand
• 55:25
  Speaker 7: up there and tell me that he did not blow
• 55:28
  Speaker 7: this draft.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Bau Rage.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Those guys turn out to be really good players, but
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: they just don't do it this year.
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: Looking from the outside end, and that's not the job
• 55:38
  Speaker 7: of the coach or the general managers. Their job is
• 55:41
  Speaker 7: to make the.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: Team better this year with the That's not the job
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: of the draft. The job of the draft is draft
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: good player.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: Everybody says you can't judge a draft until three years later.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, so was Tom Brady bad draft pick because
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: he didn't do anything his rookie year, Tom.
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: Brady was not needed to make the team better.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: But you're saying that these guys are not good draft
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: picks because they're not projected to play well this year.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: I would push back on that. If they're good now,
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: you might be right. They might have blown the draft. Christian,
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know. You could be absolutely right, But I
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: don't think that Caleb Lovo is a bad pick because
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: he's not scheduled to start this year. Now, if he
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: never starts or he never becomes a really good player,
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: then they blew the pick like it is what it is.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: But I don't think there's anything wrong with picking a
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: guy in the first round that you think is going
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: to be a starter, maybe in year two when your
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: veteran right tackle in Morgan Moses is probably going to retire.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything wrong with that mindset, especially
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: at twenty eight. Yeah, I mean, I think I think
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: the Patriots have done that in the past with guys
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: like Nate Solder, and I don't think there's anything wrong
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: with that. I don't think that means that they blew
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: the draft.
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: The problem Tom Bradley was not a first round picks
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: out us.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Why I use k Lomo. He was the first round plick,
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: So if does well, I don't think that's a bad pick.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: If he ends up being a good player, just because
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: he doesn't play in his rookie year doesn't mean they
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: blew the draft.
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: From the outside end, looking at on a draft, everybody's
• 57:14
  Speaker 7: primary focus of the draft is to try and get
• 57:16
  Speaker 7: better in the season coming. I know that there's continued season.
• 57:19
  Speaker 7: Maybe this guy's going to retire next year, and they
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: possibly won't be another lineman next year in the draft
• 57:24
  Speaker 7: that could possibly replace the right tackle.
• 57:27
  Speaker 13: I don't know.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: It sounds a little bit, I know, but you know,
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: everybody hopes that every draft pick contributes like they did
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: last year.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that's the goal that rarely happened.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: That it rarely happens.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: And like they needed they needed to tackle and they
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: were picking thirty one, you know, so like they also needed.
• 57:46
  Speaker 7: An edge player, they also needed a linebacker. They also
• 57:49
  Speaker 7: needed someone that could have contributed this year. Your second
• 57:52
  Speaker 7: round draft.
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: Piction, you can't player.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, all right, I love you. You have
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: one more point.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: You said you had three points yet Soccer and Mike
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: Rabel what's your third point?
• 58:06
  Speaker 7: Point is that last point is that everybody was talking
• 58:10
  Speaker 7: about how the Spurs blew that twenty nine point lead,
• 58:12
  Speaker 7: and they were comparing it to the Patriots twenty eight
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: to six, and a lot of people came out and said,
• 58:16
  Speaker 7: there's no comparison, there was nothing in life. I think
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: what they were thinking was this, when the Spurs came
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: out with a twenty nine point league and for the
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: second half just continued to chuck up three point shots,
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: that was akin to the Falcons coming out with a
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: huge lead in the second half and deciding to keep
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: passing the ball instead. Is heavily committed to the run.
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: That's what people are talking about when they see the
• 58:36
  Speaker 7: comparison of twenty eight to three.
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: And also, well, I think you're right in the anytime
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: you have a huge comeback like that, both teams have
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: to contribute, right, Like you know, one team has to
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: start playing out of their heads and the other team
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: has to make some mistakes to help them. And I
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: think in both games, you're right that the Spurs did
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: things to contribute to that.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Loss, no doubt.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: I don't have Aaron Fox.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Thanks Christian.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: When Benyama missing two free toes in the last minute
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: of the game. Like, the Falcons didn't do anything that
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: approached that level of choke that when Benyama did in
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: that game.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: They had a couple of bad decisions the Falcons which
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: were catastrophic.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: They made some bad choice catastropholi and the Spurs made
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: bad choices throughout the second half, taking quick threes and whatnot.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: But the absolutely like at the end of the game,
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: the execution at the end of the game, the Spurs
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: were way worse than the Felons.
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: And I would say, but if you're talking about the achievement,
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: I think the Patriots achievement to do what they did
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: was a tougher achievement than what the Knicks did.
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean the Patriots was a one game situation,
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: Like the Knicks could have lost that game and still
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: won the series.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: I'm just talking about that one game.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: That's what I think people have said. It's not the same.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: It wasn't a winner take all situation. Right in terms
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: of the game itself, there was a million similarities, and
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: I think they were equally impressive. I don't know, I'm
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: back from twenty down that late Ah in basketball, you
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: know that guy. No, it doesn't happen. It never happened before.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: They were twenty nine in the first half.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: In the second half, yeah, they were up by like
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: twenty going in the fourth.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: The fourth quarter, they're still up by twenty. But it's
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: the biggest comeback in the history of the NBA playoffs
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: and the play It's never happened.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: But I've seen teams come from much further down in
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: regular season.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: I've seen teams come from more than twenty eight to
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: three in the regular season in the NFL.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: It's rare.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Yes, it is rare.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: It's very rare. It is very rare.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: But that's the only time it's ever happened in the
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: playoffs in the NFL, and it's the only time that
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: ever happened in the NBA playoffs.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Patriots are a bigger tougher thing
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: to do tough. I don't know that could that could
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: be you know, achievement forget about. But in terms of
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: how tough is it, I.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: Think the Patriots had to do more things than the
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: Knicks had to do. I think the Spurs game, I
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  Speaker 3: think the Spurs gave them more help.
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  Speaker 2: Yeaheah, Yeah, absolutely, I think.
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  Speaker 3: The Patriots did more to earn it than than the
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  Speaker 3: Knicks did.
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  Speaker 6: The narrow path they had, everything had, everything had to
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  Speaker 6: go right, right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there's so many If you don't make this play,
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  Speaker 4: it's over. And they kept making those mills.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just thinking there's a million points, the
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  Speaker 3: plays that you don't even remember in the game, like
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  Speaker 3: third and ten from like their own ten yard line,
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  Speaker 3: Like Brady throws an out to Hogan. That's just like ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: You're always pumping up Chris Hogan branch out.
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  Speaker 3: No, that was that was pumping up Brady because it
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: was one of the sickest throws.
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  Speaker 4: In the corner, was trapping it to and he just
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: even the last Super Bowl that they had to run,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: beating Kansas City in Kansas City for the AFC Championship,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: so many things had to go the Patriots way in
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: order to win those down that category, you know, guys
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: being off side for Kansas City. But but but plays
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  Speaker 4: that Brady made on third down, you know, you know
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  Speaker 4: that was like you miss one of those and it's done,
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  Speaker 4: it's over.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I just, uh, I can't believe that Christian
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  Speaker 5: is We're still doing the thing about Rabel, Like it's
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: like three months, dude.
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  Speaker 3: But like he his he's obviously got he's really mad
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  Speaker 3: at Raabel for what he did, and that's he's like
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: that dude on Twitter. I just don't think that that's
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  Speaker 3: the goal of every team in the NFL draft every year.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: We need to get better right now, right and if
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: we don't get better right now, we blew the draft. Now.
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  Speaker 2: That isn't the draft about the future.
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  Speaker 5: I think I think that teams that do it that
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: way are the teams that get themselves into trouble because
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: they're constantly drafting for immediate need and immediate impact, and
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: they often reach on players because you know, we really
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: need the uh wide receiver, we really need to tackle,
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  Speaker 5: and you know, even though there's better players we're gonna
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: draft that.
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  Speaker 3: Wouldn't it stand the reason that you needed so much
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: help last year, so you drafted all those guys that
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: played right away and played well. Wouldn't it just be
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: natural to think I'm not going to need that many
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: guys to to do that the next year. That means
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  Speaker 3: that means we blew it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the dream, right, That's the dream, and the
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: dream is that you know we're drafting.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: Because The Patriots blew a lot of drafts in the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: Belichick era before he started really actually blowing.
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  Speaker 4: In the height of the dynasty, there was a period where,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: you know, the Patriots were drafting or bringing a gun
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: and it was tough to make the team. You know,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: it was hard for a draft pick to contribute right
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: away because it was a loaded roster. Yeah, and we're
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: not quite there yet, but we're getting closer to that,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: you know. So like last year, there were a lot
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: of opportunities for guys to contribute right away and a
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: need for them to do so. It's getting hopefully as
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: you get along here in this regime, that becomes less
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: and less.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: Yes, Now to the depth, if like Gabe Actors turns
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: out to be a bust, that's a bad pick. Yeah,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: but not because like he's not ready to be like
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: a fifteen sack guy in his rookie year and make
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: a huge impact. But if he's not a very good player,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: If Caleb Lomu is never a starting caliber tackle in
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: the NFL, there's a bad pick. You've blown the draft. Yeah,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Fish and will be right.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Aaron's in Louisiana. What's up, Aaron? Aaron And Louisiana going gone.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: How about uh, Sully in Connecticut? What's up, Sully?
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  Speaker 13: Hey guys, what's going on? I listen for a long time,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 13: I've never called in.
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 13: So I will say this that I you know, I
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 13: was going to ask as a different question.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: I will.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 13: But on the soccer front, my wife and I both
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 13: coach soccer. We've been doing it for ten years. The
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 13: difference is that in the United States we have just
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 13: a different mentality of how that's all done. We are volunteers.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 13: So if parents and you know, coaches being the volunteers
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 13: of their kids, we're Internationally, it's really structured where those
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 13: guys have multi year certifications and programs. So when you
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 13: look at the skill level and how these kids are
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 13: brought up, that's really the philosophical change between what we
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 13: see overseeing Sully.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: Can I ask you, and this is asking because I
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: don't know my kids didn't play, you know, any of
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: the tra you know, like that kind of level of soccer.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: But club, yes, that was the word I was looking with.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Club soccer programs are not like real coaches,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: but people pay to be in a club and they're
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: not coached by actual coaches. They're just like volunteers.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 13: Want to play in a club sport, that's you know,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 13: club soccer, You're going to be spending a lot of money.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 13: You have to try out for specific programs, and by
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 13: the time that that actually happens, you are already established
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 13: as a good soccer player within your community programs. It's
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 13: not something that you just push your kids into automatically, right.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: But I think you're talking about youth soccer in the
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: United States. They're just volunteers and parents and whatnot, as
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: opposed to what they do overseas, and I don't think
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: that's apples to apples. I think those are different programs.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: Like youth soccer anybody of.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 13: The United States model is really heavily relyingt on volunteer
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 13: parent coaches.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, but I don't think that that's true. But well,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: I think I think. I think there's a lot of programs.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: You know, again, I'm not familiar with them, but there's
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: a lot of programs up in our area that some
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: of my son's friends have been part of. I can't
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: imagine that they were coached by volunteers.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: No. I think what he's saying though, is the little
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: town teams.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: Aren't you have a talent teams but I think don't
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: exist a lot in the rest of the world.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: You have to pay a lot of money to play
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: on those teams, whereas like a lot of these academies
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: in Europe, they actually recruit talent and a young age
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: at a young.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: Age of yourself, jeez. They there's a lot of recruiting
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: that goes right.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: But but they're recruiting them all to develop them into
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: Premier league players or to develop them.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: That's that's different. I'm just saying. I there's a lot
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: of travel basketball, there's a lot of club basketball, hockey
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: that Mike knows a lot about. But there's a lot
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: of plays. But there's a lot of recruiting that goes on.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: And if you're there, but we don't have your playing.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: But we don't have we don't have the build like
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: we like. So like you know, you see kids like
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: overseas that at like ten twelve years old are signing
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: contracts with Arsenal or Manchester United or man City and
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: they developed them from twelve years old in hopes that
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: they are going to eventually play for Arsenal.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: We're arguing with two different things. You're arguing why the
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: US isn't as good as they should be. I'm saying
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: that there's no way that those teams that are recruiting
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: the players those programs, and I wish I knew all
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: the names of them. I don't, but like I can
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: tell you in baseball, there's a million programs and they're
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: not coached by someone's father some volunteer. They're coaches that
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: actually work for these programs and they get paid by
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: the programs. Oh yeah, Like it's not the way it works.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: No, I understand what you're saying.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: Now you can argue that they're not enough to what end. Yeah, right, Like.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: We're developing our baseball players and our hockey players to
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: get into college, to go to D one, which they
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: could get you into the MLB or the NHL. Like here,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: we're developing these soccer kids to go to college and
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: play D one college in the United States. That stinks.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: It's not like, relatively speaking, compared to what the leagues
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: the kids are playing in Europe is not very good.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: You're like, it's crazy, Like they taking these kids that
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: like they bring them to boarding school basically at like
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: ten twelve years old. And they live there and they
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: just like play soccer every like year round and they
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: train them.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: And that's like what the hockey model is too with
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: the National Development Team. Same thing, Like they're taking kids
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: now that are going to live there and plan that
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 6: program and now that they're going to a cat they're
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: they're going out of these academies now academies.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: Where it's actually accredited so they can go to school
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: there as well, which you know, go to school, but
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: they're there to play sports.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, they're building out the hockey version of
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 6: this right now where it's not just going to be
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: the National Development Team. There's going to be a whole
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 6: league now that offers an opportunity. So I mean, I
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: just it's a great comp because I see with hockey,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: hockey's closer to it in America, and you see how
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: top to bottom, you know, and not to get into
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: the coaching debate, but every coach from Mites on up,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: you're going to a coaching seminar. You're you know, every
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 6: year you're getting resources to improve as a coach. I mean,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: the Bruins do a thing, so you know, it's it's
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 6: the way hockey's doing it. You can see that's how
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: you get to the top. But it's just that's it's hard.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 6: Cody's and Fresno.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: What's up, Cody, Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 12: So great offseason show so far. I'd love to get
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 12: on all these points. A couple of things I want
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 12: to talk on, and then a point I can bring up.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 12: I have a young boy. We started off with soccer.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 12: I feel like the barrier to entry is low. You
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 12: just get a ball and kick it around. But that
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 12: quickly got overshadowed by football, baseball, basketball, you know, the
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 12: great US sports here.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 16: So I mean, I didn't even play baseball growing up,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 16: but my son is. We got him a bat and
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 16: a glove and we took him out to the diamond
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 16: just this weekend and he had a great time, and
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 16: his interest is going there. But soccer's kind of left
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 16: by the wayside.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 15: He sees his sports athletes, and he sees the culture
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 15: and everything that's on TV, and he wants.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 7: To do what he sees.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 12: So I think it's as simple as that.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: That's right, Yep.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 12: The other thing I wanted to say is movies sant
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 12: to have young kids. I don't really see many.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 16: Movies that aren't kids movies probably go to the Toy
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 16: Story five this weekend, which should be good.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 12: Hope don't cryin yeah, I'll try not to.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 13: Uh.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 12: And the other thing I wanted to point to point
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 12: out or bring up, how do you guys feel about
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 12: names when it comes to sports players. Do you think
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 12: the greatest players their names are elevated obviously because of
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 12: what they've accomplished, or do you feel like people with
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 12: the great names, if you will go on to achieve
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 12: great things.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: What comes first the name or the player? I think yeah,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: I think I think the player earns their names.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: So, like, who's the greatest Michael player?
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: Well time, Yeah, Michael Jordan was Michael Jordans in Carolina,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: but he became Jordan in Chicago.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: But I'm just saying that that's as like playing of
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: a name as you can get. He's the greatest player
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: we've ever played. Now, Like I think he's talking about
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: like first Lebron James, Like Lebron James. Is it like
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: he was probably destined for greatness with that name? You
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: know what Michael Jordan's I mean, come on, if you're
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: the average jove An, you can get I mean, if
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: you want to be with Carolina name your kids Jack.
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  Speaker 15: Right, Yeah, if you look at all the greats, like
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 15: let's say Tom Brady, you know, obviously a simple name
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 15: if you will, but.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 12: It's not a bad name.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: He turned his last name.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 15: You think of Tom Brady, you know, he elevated that
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 15: name to gren Yes, Lebron James and Muhammad Ali's. And
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 15: then if you think about some great names on our
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 15: team currently, I think Drake Ma it's a solid name.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 12: I think it's catchy.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 15: I think it's rolls off the tongue, and I think
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 15: you could definitely see that, you know, elevating.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 12: It's one of the great the greats.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think there's some great names of kids,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: never good athletes too. I think it's you know, it's
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: just coincidence for the most part.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: I would agree that Polstone is a good name. I
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 12: But about our current draft class, any good names. Let's
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 12: stick out is a great name for Rugged his situation. Yeah,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 12: I think his name is great. Probably you know, might
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 12: be hearing that more soon.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: All right, thanks, Cody, appreciate it. All Right, We're going
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: to take a break. A lot of emails coming in.
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  Speaker 4: People you know, have different opinions, on these subjects, so
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  Speaker 19: is that he knows what he's doing. And to to
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  Speaker 19: be that young and to understand the defense and to
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 19: understand every little check that the hots, the bliss and
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 19: all those things so young and so fast, it's it's
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  Speaker 19: very impressive. And so I really admire that he knows
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 19: what he's talking about. He demands everybody else to uh,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 19: to know as well. You know, and he's a true leader.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 19: It's a true leader of men. And it's and it's
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 19: crazy to see at a young age. You know, he's
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 19: he's a true leader of men.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 11: So question about motivation, We'll ask him what's my motivation?
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 19: My motivation just come out here and just be the
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 19: best I can every single day, as simple as that.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 11: How do you feel like the early connection is between
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 11: you and drink? And what are you find most effective
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 11: when it comes.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: To further development?
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 19: Now, it's just spending more and more time getting get
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 19: getting getting more reps. You know, we're still growing, you know,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 19: I think things are off to a great start.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 11: Do you feel at home?
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 11: Do I feel at home? Yeah?
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 19: I'm surrounded by a lot of Tennessee coaches and a
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 19: couple of Tennessee players, So yeah, you know, walking in
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 19: the building feels feels pretty good.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 11: Yeah, kind of looks like you got a smile on
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 11: your Why not right? Yeah? To do this means everything.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 19: Man, I get to do this, I'm I'm extremely blessed,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 19: you know, and coming in the building each and every day,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 19: you know, coming to to to try to be better
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 19: each and every day.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 11: That's the only thing that's my only focus.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 19: But you know, to playing for my favorite team, to
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 19: you know, being here around coach Brave and around other
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 19: teammates that I know, you know, it feels great.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: So you know, the.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 19: Man, the talent is stacked. The talent is stacked, and
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 19: that's what you want. You want guys to push each other,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 19: you know. Uh, we we talk about all the time
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 19: raising that standard, pushing each other, you know, and holding
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 19: each and everybody accountable.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 11: The change that you.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 19: They kept on, They just kept on, kept on asking
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 19: Pop just like come on, come on, And I'm like,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 19: all right, man.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 11: So I just walk in j.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 20: From Philly about something that you signed on the wall. Yeah,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 20: what the message was there? I'm not gonna getting into that.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 20: You know, I appreciated my time in Philly. You know,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 20: I'm where my feet are, so uh, that's the only
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 20: thing that matters, the most important.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 9: To get squirted away, moving over, maybe even over these
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 9: next forty games.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 19: Just continue to stop in that playbook more and more,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 19: you know, getting comfortable moving around all different spots, you know,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 19: so I could be available familiarity cross before you know,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 19: being the league, you know, eight years now, some some
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 19: words and some rap concepts are you know, are the
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 19: general rape concepts. But you know, it's a lot of
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 19: unlearning things because some some words are the same. And
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 19: so I'm just trying to unlearned rules and relearn the
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 19: new rules. So you know, I think I think that's
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 19: the biggest housle, you know, and just being building that
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 19: uh those mental real teaching every day.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 11: What are your room off the field?
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 19: Off the field, Yeah, it's it's it's hot and cold
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 19: in that room. You know, it's a lot of different personalities.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 19: We have a great room, great chemistry already, you know,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 19: and the guys just kind of feeding off each other
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 19: and joining each other and pushing each other, you know,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 19: and most importantly, you know, we holding each and everybody accountable.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 11: So that's all you really could care about.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: Honestly.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 19: Uh, you can say that you know, it's still time,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 19: still time for me to do so you know, Uh,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 19: I'm just trying to be the best version of myself
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 19: each and every day.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 11: You know, if I grow into that leadership role and
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 11: so be it. But I'm just trying to be myself.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 11: And that's all.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: But you get together, break and all uh.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 10: Things.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 19: So passing, Yeah, that's the plan to try to find
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 19: some time to to try to build more and more.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 19: Obviously we're gonna talk and uh do all those things,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 19: but you know, most importantly, we gotta.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 11: Continue to try to perfect that craft.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 19: So here, Yeah, so I think Drake started on the
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 19: right side, but you know, he came back to me
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 19: a little late, and uh, he threw the balls the
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 19: back shoulders, a great, great ball, back shoulder, and I
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 19: just kind of turned my head, you know, obviously the
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 19: dB doesn't know where the ball is. So and my background,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 19: you know, playing baseball and center field, you know, turned
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 19: over shoulder, looking over the shoulder. That's and it's a
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 19: tough catching. I'm just glad I got my feet down. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 19: uh huh No, it's not easy, but it's something that
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 19: we try to We try to drill, you know, at
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 19: least I try to drill as much as I can,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 19: you know.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 16: Uh.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 11: And like I said, I'm just glad I got my
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 11: feet down, you know, so shoulder since skateboard. What it
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 11: building that connection so important? What's important.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 19: It's just building that time, having that time together, building
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 19: those reps, you know, thinking how you're thinking, playing, seeing
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 19: different looks, you know, most importantly, and just how you're
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 19: throwing the ball and where I need to be.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 11: And I'm just trying to be where he wants me
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 11: to be. That's all schedule practice. Yeah, I don't know
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 11: if you can see the break in the background. Oh no, no,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 11: he whoa, No, that's not okay. Nobody. Nobody should be
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 11: on the ground and practice. That's my rule.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 19: If anybody is on the ground, that's a bad practice.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 19: It doesn't matter who it is. Nobody should be on
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 19: the ground. But he delivered a great past. So that's
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 19: how I was excited. So I'm glad he's okay.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 20: After having worked with him for three days or at
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 20: minimp because he you know what you what you bought
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 20: before you got here.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 19: Yeah, he's most definitely man like. I was just bragging
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 19: on and talking, you know, talking to them up. I say, hey, man,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 19: you like that. You know you can make any throat,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 19: you know. I just want him to be confident, you know.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 19: I was kind of pushing him today, you know. I
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 19: told him, I want you to be perfect today. He
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 19: was like, let's be perfect. I said, don't don't worry
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 19: about anybody else, just focus on yourself.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 11: You'd be perfect.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 19: You're gonna raise that stundard and everybody else will follow.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 19: So just trying to just poke at them a little
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 19: bit and see how far you go, you know.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 11: But uh, he's a great player, you know, and I'm
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 11: excited for the season. How'd you feel the offensive today?
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 11: If you're chasing perfection today, Uh, it was some good
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 11: and bad.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 19: There's always some improvement, always, there always room for improvement,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 19: you know, and that's what you want. You don't want
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 19: to come out here and just completely dominating and then
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 19: you have to worry about the defense.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 11: So so hass off to them for making players as well.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of talking out there.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 19: That's what you want, Yeah, that's what you want, because
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 19: then you know, the real dogs come out. Yeah, real
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 19: dogs come out of play. But all the talking is
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 19: just talking. You gotta play at the end of the day.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 11: So if you can back it up, I don't care, Bart,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 11: do what you gotta do, you know.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 19: Always, always I'm gonna get the last live against Christian Guns.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 19: Oh yeah, yeah, Guns o, man a great player. You know,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 19: hopefully everything works out. You know, I'm excited to get
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 19: some work between him and c D and the other guys,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 19: but Guns most definitely.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 11: Man, I'm ready to go.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 19: Against them so we can push each other, you know,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 19: get in the live together, because obviously that's that's good
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 19: on good, you know, and it's very small for very
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 19: little room for a mistake, So you know, I love
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 19: going against I was like that, you know, because those
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 19: are my matchups.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 11: Those are my matchups, and I'll shut away from those.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 11: So get the practice against him and CD. That's what
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 11: you want, you know.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: And now, great moments in.
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  Speaker 1: History, but that's my point. They didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I think Levy was cut the wave there. He had
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: a great team, great person you know, great players. They were.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: Who sorry who unnecessary one forever that came out of nowhere.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: They were, they were loaded.
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  Speaker 2: We get that on post on post.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.
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• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: the email address. Lots of calls, lots of emails. Uh
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: Nicks in Boston. Sorry to say, Paul's very wrong about soccer.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: Having our best athletes play the sport is not why
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: we aren't great.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: Evan is right.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: We need kids to be developed and coached better the
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: best soccer players of all time, as Messi, who was
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: five to seven and needed medications when he grew up
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: to even get to five seven. Having the ball at
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: your feet from a young age, street soccer every day
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: after school, et cetera, is the difference.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the people might be right.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not going to tell soccer experts their
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: their business could be right.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: You cannot you coach Messi's first touch though, man like
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: that ball gets to his feet and.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: I look at that guy and I see an exceptional athlete.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: That might be I might be crazy when I say that,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: but I don't really care how tall he is. I
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: see an exceptional athlete.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 11: But you have to like that.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: You have to admit, with the number of kids in
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  Speaker 4: this country, if soccer was our number one sport, we
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: would dominate with the number of people, just people.
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  Speaker 2: In this country.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: Why do we say things like no, if our culture.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: What I'm saying is if our because because of just
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: the numbers game. If our was the same as as
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: Europe in terms of our attitude towards soccer and the
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: coaching that they got, because we have more people, we
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: would be better.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: Maybe. I don't know.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: I hate when people what you're you're the analytics guy, right,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: it's the odds are But like there's such a like
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 4: we would be the best we want to.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just because of numbers, not because we're better humans.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: It's going to be you're going to find out just
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: because of.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: Number we have three hundred and fifty million people.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: I agree, I understand that, but I think that other
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: countries hear us say stuff like that and they want
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: to punch us squarely in the jaw.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: They want anyway we start making more babies. I mean
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: they know they Yeah. Now the counter argument the best
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: at everything.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: Now, the counter argument is China should then be that
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: was my thing is why you know, the Asian country,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: but they got a lot of other things going against
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: them over there.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: I do think that, like slowly but sure, because you
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: know part we had to call her call in and say,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 5: like the athletes that you know you watch on TV,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: that's what and that's one hundred percent true. I think slowly,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 5: like social media has shrunk the world a little bit,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: so it's easier for kids to see Arling Harlan play
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: for Manchester City because they're seeing him on TikTok and
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: stuff like that. Like he's like his uh social media
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 5: presence is gigantic. He's super famous on the apps, you know,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: and like literally like that you know I have or
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 5: like man City are like Killiammbape, like like you heard
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 5: him like these guys that like now they're everywhere, like,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: so you know, that could help because you're not gonna
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: maybe like people will look up to like Christian polistic
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 5: maybe but like they're not going to look up to.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: Him, you know other people.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: But and the other thing Christian said, which you know,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: like growing up, what's the payoff to be a great
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: soccer player in this country? There's a big payoff to
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: be football, basketball, all hockey, baseball.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: But there's That's why I side with Mike's points. Yeah
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: about the fabric, Yeah, I mean the fabric here. If
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: you want to be a star, you want to be rich,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: like people play soccer here with the goal of probably
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: getting some money to go to college. Right, I can
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: get a scholarship if I'm really good the Southern Connecticut Yeah,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know, I mean scholarship, like real scholarship.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: You know, people, I mean this this good college soccer
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: and the sound, but pales in comparison to academies around
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: the world.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 6: What they're playing in to my my cousin's husband, Miles Joseph,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 6: he's the one who coaches for the Charlotte Football Club
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 6: and the MLS. He played in the MLS. He has
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 6: been a lifelong MLS coach. Both his kids went on
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 6: to play at Rutgers in Indiana college soccer.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 6: So it's like to me, it's a small example of
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 6: like in a contained setting where soccer is really important
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 6: to this family and the dad played and everything, like
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 6: the kids went on to play college soccer, and you know,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 6: so it's no different than really any other sport when
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 6: you know, when people are.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: Invested in right, you know, and love it and their life,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: you know and love.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 6: I just think the biggest element to me is you've
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: got to be surrounded by people who do that. And
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: you know, I feel like growing up playing hockey in
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 6: Massachusetts or people who aw up playing hockey in Minnesota.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 6: You're surrounded by people who are awesome and talking about
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 6: NHL and it makes you want to be better and
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 6: you want to play the summer leagues against those good
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 6: players so you can be you know. So it's just
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 6: I think it's a it's like one of those snowball
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 6: things where once you get going, everybody that's chick totally.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 5: Like the fabric thing to me is a really good
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: point like that. I feel like for our kid kids,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 5: you know, in America, like things like throwing a football,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: shooting a basketball, like those are just like instinctive natural
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 5: things that were taught at such a young age. I
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: don't know if like soccer, yeah, like I don't know
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: if that that's the same for that sport you know,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: you know, shooting a puck you know at a net,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 5: and for hockey plays like that stuff that you're doing
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: at like as like a todd.
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  Speaker 4: What's what's the first sport that you play, not organizationally,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: but like even with your friends.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: What's the do you remember what the free.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: Hockey you play?
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: Backyard baseball? I mean I learned to play baseball in
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: the backyard. That was in street hockey. I like, I
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: said a tip tooth from it.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 6: But that was one thing I said to Paul was
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 6: seeing my kids play youth baseball, and I'm like, does
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: anyone know how to catch a freaking pop fly? Like
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 6: all these things, like these little rules that we learned
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 6: just playing in.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: The backyard together. I feel like my kids, least some.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: Kids and this and this is why, like I think
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: the email is right to like call me out because
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: I'm using a very simplistic reason. Now I believe in it,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: and I'm not just making it up. I'm not trying
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: to be controversial. I believe in my reason, but it's
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: a very simplistic answer. It's way more complicated from the
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: stuff that Evan's talking about with the grassroots and the
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: training and the coaching and the level of competition to
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: the fabric. But like you just hit on a fundamental
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: thing that Fred and I talk about all the time.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: Kids do not play sports anymore unless it's an organized sport.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: Like I can't tell you how many times, like I would,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: I've like little league baseball practice. When was the last
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: time you played, well, Saturday, Well, I was that last game?
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: Like you haven't played since then?
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: I played everything instantly every day. Whatever we were playing,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: we played it every day. I'm not telling you I
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: played baseball every day, because some days we played basketball
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: or street hockey or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: They just in the backyard, like learn how to run
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: the bases playing pickles.
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  Speaker 3: Do not play. They don't play, they don't practice, they
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: don't play. And it's not because we did that. But
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: it's not because we were better. I'm not This is
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: not a like oh, but there's a lot of different
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: sociological factors that come into play as to why that
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: doesn't happen anymore. Like Fred and I grew up in
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: an era where you went out at eight o'clock in
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: the morning and your parents were lucky if they saw
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: you by six or seven o'clock that night, and it
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: was okay because the world was a lot different then.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: You can't do I wouldn't let my kids do that
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: when they were eight, nine, ten years old. I literally
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: left the house on a Saturday, and I would get
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: in trouble all the time because I didn't hear it
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: from you all day. Where were you. I was playing baseball.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: I'm the stadium.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 11: Good for you.
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  Speaker 6: I think I remember the exact moment I quit soccer, though,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 6: is I because I played a lot of soccer growing up,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 6: youth hockey. Youth soccer in Holliston's huge. They always have
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 6: a huge tournament there when I would meet people. But
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 6: I remember I had a hockey game in the morning
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 6: and it was like late spring, and you know, played
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 6: a hockey game.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: Was like when I was really good at hockey in
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: youth hockey.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: And then we got to.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 6: Soccer and it was outside and it's hot, and I'm
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 6: running around and I'm just like this.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: Hot this sock. He's always been preoccupied with the weather.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 6: Well, you go from the rink, you know, and you're like,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 6: because I always love how you're in a cold rink
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 6: but you're sweating, you know, so like you have a
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 6: quick you.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 6: Like you're always in a good opportunity your area, and
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 6: you know it's like a kid thing where you're playing
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 6: multiple games in the day and I just remember being
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 6: on the soccer field being like, I think I'm done
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 6: with this, Like I'm all set with running.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 5: I stopped from soccer because I had no like hand
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 5: eye coordination, decent.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: With the foot not I never played ilayed.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: I played a lot my sisters played through high school.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: They were both like on you know the state team
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: that you know, all that stuff, But you know, it.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: Wasn't you know, it wasn't a big youth sport when
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: I I don't even know if we had youth when
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: I was in New Jersey.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: I was in the first team when they started the
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: league in our town and by the time wasn't because
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: Pele well he was years later. I played an all
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: Star game at Randall's Island where Pale was so but anyway,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 4: By the time I left New Jersey and after seventh grade,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: soccer was booming. But I was literally in second grade.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: That was the first year that they had a league
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 4: or teams in the whole area, not just our town.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in my town too. I mean, it's probably just
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: more of a suburbs thing, but it was, Yeah, it was.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: It was a huge deal growing up.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: Justin a deuce is probably the best answer out of
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: all the arguments. Americans are tuned into the four major sports,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: and that's been part of our fabric for generations. If
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: you want to build a widespread American interest in soccer,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: then you're going to need to build up that interest
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: in the culture for generations, and that's not going to
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: be easy.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: So I think it could happen.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: I think it's happening, and slowly.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: Oh I don't think. I think Fred and I have
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: been talking about Fred and I have been if we
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: could tell you the same thing that you just said,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: we had the conversation in nineteen seventy three. It's happening.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: It's happening. On board, it's happening. But what I would
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: say is, if the ground swell continues to get rid
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: of the contact sports, if they succeed. If football goes
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: away and hockey goes away because of the concussions and
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: all everything else that goes Yeah, I'm telling you you're
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: going to start to see a change because they're going
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: to be They're going to look for other sports.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I don't think that it's coming in the sense
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: of like popularity. I think this is the most talent
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 5: that we've had at the national level on the US side,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: and I think that's a pretty overwhelming consensus that that's
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 5: that this team.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: I couldn't possibly argue with you.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 5: I know that they are fielding this cycle is the
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 5: most talented from top to bottom that we've ever had.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, I hear what you're saying, because, like to
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: Fred's point, we're a big enough country that even if
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 6: it's not part of the fabric that there should still
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 6: be enough athletes that you're able.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: To grow if you have the right system in place
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: and coaching.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 6: And that's you know, the point I'm making about USA
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 6: hockey is that there's a you know, there's a full
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 6: vision from the top down of how do we get
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: our team to win Olympic gold medals and World Cups
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: and all that stuff. I don't know if soccer has that,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: and from the color, it doesn't sound like it's certainly
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 6: not to like the basic town youth soccer, which I
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 6: don't know if all that needs to be under an
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 6: umbrella where we're trying like desperately to develop every because
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 6: there should be there should be fun sports.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: There should be fun you perfect fun school.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 5: I think that that's a like in other countries soccer
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 5: is the fun sport because they just play it in
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: the streets.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: They don't they don't, but I don't play. I think
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: what ever, I mean, what Mike's talking about is like
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: you shouldn't just have it be like, if you want
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: to play soccer, you got to be serious about it.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: You gotta sign up. There should be youth soccer where
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: people just want to play. Like I think one of
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: the best basketball leagues that my kids played in it
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: was just like the local youth pbody basketball league. It
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: was the PBA they used to call it, and they
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: had You know, my older son was a pretty good
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: basketball player and he played in all kinds of travel teams,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: all kinds of AAU teams, and he played in high school.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: He liked it, yeah, but he loved playing in the PBA.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: It's just a different and there should always be those
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: avenues for anybody who wants to play.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 6: And that's where I go back to not liking that
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 6: part of what hockey's at right now. There's it's impossible.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 6: You know, my son when he was like eight nine
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 6: years old and we moved back here and he hadn't
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 6: had that youth hockey, It's like you're already behind. There
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 6: isn't just a league where it's okay to stink, It's
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 6: okay to go out there if you don't know how
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 6: to skate backwards. We're just going to pick up hockey
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 6: and play. And that's you know, goes back to your
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 6: point of house. But you know, we used to meet
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 6: on half days after school and go play hockey on
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 6: the lake, you know where we'd play street hockey and
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 6: we had a we made our own Stanley Cup and
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: we you know, so it's just I think there needs
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 6: to be a balance between having kids sports leagues that
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 6: are just for fun and to learn and be part
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 6: of a team and learn how to lose versus all right,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 6: this is part of the system, and now you're going
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 6: to be on a trajectory that you better be going
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 6: to the Olympics.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 5: I think that's probably like what the caller I think
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 5: called in and mentioned like that. That's a lot of
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 5: the criticism of US soccer is that is that the
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: only way to.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: Play it to you're all in.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: You're all in. It's year round.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: It's thousands of dollars and like entry fees and stuff
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 5: like that for club teams, and it's like your life
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: and that's it's either that or it's nothing. So and
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: there's no there's no.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: Get the money, because that's a huge thing. Yeah, but
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: isn't it like that around the world, Like, if you're
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: going to be in that, don't you have to be
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: immersed in it. I don't think around.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 5: Because I think that around the world there's a lot
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: like they just play in the streets in the field.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 5: They just have one person has a ball and they
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 5: show they all show up to the field and they
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 5: play soccer all day long like that.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: But the elite that's how they put they all that.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 5: But that's eventually those kids get noticed and then those
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 5: kids get pulled out and they get put into these
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: academy and.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: They don't have to pay for that.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 10: No.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: No, that's why I said take the money out of
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: him because I obviously, you know, I understand like a
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: lot of the travel stuff, a lot of the club
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: stuff here it's pay you know, And I'm sure it's
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: not like that worldwide, right.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: And those elite kids, they it's all paid for them.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But then it becomes it's corrupt.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 6: I mean there's things like in hockey where you know,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 6: I'm reffing a showcase and you're like, I don't know
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 6: who you're showcasing. Any of these crappy players too. You
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 6: know they're all paying, but like five hundred bucks a game.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: You know, Lebron James didn't pay to play for the
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: AAU team, So you know, when you're elite, like so
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: I think that we're like sort of confusing, like see
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: with Mike orso.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 4: You know, well, but all these people that were seeing
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: on these teams, they were the elite.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: They were the elite, right.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: And those guys don't have to pay, no, no.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: But like here in the US, like you know, Lebron
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 5: James played for Saint Vincent Saint Mary High School in Cleveland,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 5: and he was the number one pick in the NBA
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 5: Draft and that was good enough that that his high
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 5: school was good enough to get him directly to the NBA,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 5: Whereas like in soccer, we don't have that, Like our
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 5: high school is not good.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: Like our high school, we don't have level. We don't
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: have that level of soccer.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 5: And once you're in college, it's too late, you're too old.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 5: Like you know, Messi's in his sixth World Cup because
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 5: he played in his first one as a teenager. So
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 5: like you know, once you are in your twenties in college,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 5: you're too.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: Old, right, you know. It's whatever happened to Freddy Ado?
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah he flamed out.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he was supposed to be the next big
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 4: thing for the MRS at fourteen.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's they do a lot of That's how they
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: do it over there, Like could guys make their debuts sixteen, seventeen,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 5: eighteen years old? Sometimes younger?
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 4: Like, yep, crazy, let's see back to basketball. Anthony says,
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: I'm a diehard Patriots and Knicks fan. Wow, and Evan
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 4: is crazy, except thanks for chiming in, Brad.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: Evan is crazy.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 4: To say the Knicks win wasn't even as important as
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 4: the World Cup is outrageous. The entire kidding, the entire
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 4: state of New York is in jubilation and unified in
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 4: a way I've never seen it. You can hate the Knicks,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 4: it's understandable, but you should be objective about the win.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 4: It's the most, if not the most dominant runs in
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 4: NBA playoff is.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, it's a very dominant ru It was a dominant
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: sixteen ths in.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 5: The history of the NBA. We name a better one,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 5: the Lakers and the like two thousand. I think when
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 5: sixteen and O did they Okay, no one ever did,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 5: like sixteen and one or something like that.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, so two more wins and it was closed.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, But like they also, like, we have to compare
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 5: competition level competition, sixteen and three is sixteen.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: And they had a great run.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: And what more do you want me to say?
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: I was obviously say that.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 5: I was kidding about the world, all right, I'm so sensitive.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: Jeff and Canada has a hodge Podge of sports thoughts,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 4: three of them.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 21: One.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 4: I don't follow soccer all the time, but the World
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 4: Cup is pretty dawn entertaining, okay, two wall defending twenty
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: eight three is way harder than what the Knicks did.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 4: From what I've seen. That is the popular opinion of
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 4: sports fans three. Brady and Messi are very similar in careers,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 4: both of established goats who seem never dropped off their
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 4: entire career. Yeah, okay, who's a bigger goat? Messi or Brady?
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 4: I'd say Messy.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 5: It's because worldwide, it is a more international sport.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: So you're talking about popularity popularity. Who's the biggest Messie?
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: I mean I would say Brady's a bigger goat? Why
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: because football?
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: Because it's football contact. But considering that didn't even get
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: it out.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 4: But considering soccer has been played for as long as
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 4: it's been played, and it's played all over the world,
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 4: isn't it harder to be the goat in soccer than.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: It is in football? Yeah?
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 3: You could probably make that argument. I mean, but I
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: mean if you could just score like, say, twenty goals
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 3: like you're there, I.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: Mean, i'diculous.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 6: The first time I saw Messi play though, and now
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 6: you guys make fun of me for my limited soccers.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: But it was like, oh my god, this guy, can
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: you with a ball like you have never seen before?
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: Like even someone like me like I am such a
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 3: like neo fight when it comes to watching the game
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: when you watch and you're just look and you're like, oh, okay,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: that's him. You can tell he just said whoever it
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: is like messy, you know, like we're watching Portugal play
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: right now, and obviously what did you say. I don't
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: want to I don't want to repeat.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 5: Washed Okay, he was ready to stay it on air,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 5: but they like Messi's thing though. I mean he was,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 5: but he's fast now, but he was even faster in
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 5: his peak. But like the way that it's like the
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 5: ball has a magnet.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: It almost like almost like he's an elite athlete. It's
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: absolutely unbelievable.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 5: How like it's not it is not supposed to be
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 5: that easy to keep the ball on your foot like that.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: It's amazing what he can do.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And like one of the goals I think it
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 5: was might have been the ones that got called back,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 5: like the guy like drilled the pass into his feet
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 5: and it just stuck, like it just stopped and you
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 5: know us player that would have been like ten ft
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: away from yeah.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: Right, and it's like I don't have skills like you
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: see the guys with soft hands and hockey with tape
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: to tape.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, bo, same thing, and that comes from thousands, tens
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 4: of thousands of repetitions and just the feel for the ball.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 5: But I think that's why he aged the street is
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 5: because like he had, like because of how skillt he is,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 5: whereas like Ronaldo is always the raw athletic player of
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 5: the two, but like now that he's gotten older, he's
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 5: lost a step and so he hasn't aged as gracefully.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 5: Like Ronaldo is a couple of years older, but not
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 5: not like world not a ton years, you know. I
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 5: think Messi's like thirty eight, thirty nine, Ronaldo's forty, but
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 5: like Rinaldo's aged a little bit worse because he's he's
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 5: not the best athlete on the field anymore, whereas Messi
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 5: is just you don't you don't lose that skill like
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 5: that doesn't know.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, That's what I've liked about watching some of the
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 6: some of the World Cup is to finally see somebody
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 6: like I don't wake up and watch the Premier League,
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 6: but to finally see some of these players that you
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 6: guys talk about that are you know, when we talk.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: About the MLS, it's like, yeah, they don't really have
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: the stars.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 6: But then to see you know, like Norway last night,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 6: and be like, so this is what these really elite players,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 6: you know, especially in their prime, somebody in their mid twenties.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, six'.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: Five my, God so was that guy really that? Good oh,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: yeah he's probably was it because they were playing a Rock.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 5: Now he's probably a top five.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 4: Player he's got he's got fifty seven goals in fifty one.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: GAME i was more than one goal a game just by.
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  Speaker 3: HIM i Was, oscar just By oscar BECAUSE i HONESTLY
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  Speaker 3: i never heard that name until Last.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 4: But they think about think about that. Stat you know
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 4: how hard it is to score in? Soccer, yeah fifty
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 4: seven goals in fifty one game?
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: Goals, now what are the? Games his?
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 5: Pro Premier?
• 1:43:15
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• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: The premier.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 5: Leagu, yeah he's pretty. Good, yesterday if you're a soccer
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 5: fan and bop let it off And Erling harlan played
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 5: and Then messi, played.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: It was, like this is, Unbelievable like it was a
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 3: good night of. SONG i did not realize that that
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 3: guy From norway was in that.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: Class, yeah, no that that's the REALIZATION i am to
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: last Night.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: Messi, obviously some people.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: Are calling the greatest goal scorer of all.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: TIME i, mean he looks the.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: PART i didn't even.
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  Speaker 6: NEED i he's the bossy of soccer because we had
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 6: an email that came out and was, like you, know
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 6: saying that there you, Know norway was going to be
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 6: in the building and you, know be careful around players
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 6: because you know all this kind Of i'm, like who's
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 6: this big player they're talking, about.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: You, Know AND i literally flipped THE tv on and,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: there you, know they were already up like four to.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 4: ONE i didn't know the, name and then, oh it's
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 4: the big blonde.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: Guy knew who that. Was he's got like the pony.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 5: LAUGHING i was, like these people don't know Who Earling harland.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 5: Is you got to tell everybody what his name.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: Is there's some tall blond guy out.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: THERE i don't, know.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: But he's. Impressive you can just.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 6: TELL i, mean he's like one of those, guys like
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 6: some of these guys like H. A brown kind of
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 6: just has that swag to. Him you, know you could
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 6: tell just walking that he's probably.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: Good same.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: Way the thing About holland.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 4: Is it's it's when he starts running that you're, like
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: oh my. GOD i kind of like bent over a
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 4: little bit of his, size like it's just the.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: Speed it's.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: Incredible he has a great motor like he.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 6: Does he's like going about one goal where they made
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 6: a lazy pass and, yeah and he started bearing down
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 6: on that goal.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: And the goal pooped his.
• 1:44:52
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• 1:44:58
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• 1:45:03
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• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: Attack the fact the catch point you can't pass back.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 5: To the goalie and then that's not gonna.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 4: Work, Karen, christian you all are incredibly. Patient christian From
• 1:45:16
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• 1:45:39
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• 1:45:43
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• 1:46:29
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• 1:46:48
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• 1:47:03
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• 1:47:06
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• 1:47:11
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• 1:47:14
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• 1:47:17
  Speaker 4: like he. Did what are the odds OF irf or?
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 4: Pup what are costs If patriots signed him and he's
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 4: too hurt to?
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 5: Play? WELL i would just say that just because, like
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 5: it doesn't necessarily mean that they missed. IT i know
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 5: That rabel's like demeanor probably came off some, frustration but
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 5: they might have known that he had it and need
• 1:47:39
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• 1:47:41
  Speaker 5: that and they might have known. That it doesn't necessarily
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 5: guarantee that they.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: Missed, no there's no guarantees because we don't know what
• 1:47:48
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• 1:47:51
  Speaker 3: a lot of people that have put a lot of
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 3: different things out, there and one of them is, Right
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  Speaker 3: if that makes. Sense, YEAH i think a lot of
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  Speaker 3: the stuff in that email there's probably some.
• 1:48:00
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• 1:48:02
  Speaker 6: WEEK i feel like with the contract, situation and you,
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 6: know they want to protect themselves and so THERE'S i
• 1:48:07
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• 1:48:08
  Speaker 3: Know we don't.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: Know the first thing to fall will hopefully be sometime
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: in the next.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 5: The guaranteed money will be the big, question you, know
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 5: like that the emailers question how much depends on how
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 5: much the money they?
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 4: Get AND i Know Mike reese's report didn't really shed
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 4: any real light on what the situation, is but it
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 4: kind of gave me a little. Hope, yeah like if
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 4: he had indications that this IS i think it would
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 4: the report would have been a little bit slanted to the.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: Negative right about, Me, yeah BECAUSE i went to the opposite,
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 3: way went the opposite.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 4: Way so, YEAH i, THOUGHT i, thought, yeah this is
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 4: all kind of weird right, now but it's all going
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 4: to play out and he's going to be here for.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: Trail BUT i looked at it as like a sort
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  Speaker 3: of a validation that there's something going.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 4: On, Yeah, oh there's definitely something going. On BUT i
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 4: got the sense from his thing that it's going to be. Fine,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 4: YEAH i mean that's that's the SENSE i got.
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  Speaker 4: Optimist steven in passives on the hot. Line what's, Up Stephen.
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• 1:49:05
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• 1:49:18
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  Speaker 21: THAT i wasn't looking forward to coming.
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  Speaker 2: Home oh really it was really.
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  Speaker 3: Good that's a good.
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  Speaker 2: Trip, yeah that's a good.
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  Speaker 3: Trip yeah.
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• 1:49:43
  Speaker 21: other than, that everything was great and the food was.
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• 1:49:50
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• 1:49:53
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• 1:49:55
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• 1:50:19
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• 1:50:21
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• 1:50:23
  Speaker 21: they said it'll be too, dangerous so they wouldn't let me.
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• 1:50:36
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• 1:50:43
  Speaker 21: step you played.
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• 1:50:48
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• 1:50:53
  Speaker 21: league but he kind of got the Drugs but the
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 21: point is, nowadays the kids they can't get off the.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 21: Computer we used to always go outside because we were.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 12: Bored was nothing to do in the.
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  Speaker 21: House you had three, channels.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 9: So you left and you went and you did.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 21: Things you didn't come home till. Dark, NOW i, mean you,
• 1:51:08
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• 1:51:10
  Speaker 21: on the. Computer i'm, like go and go, outside do,
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  Speaker 21: Something go hit the, ball do you? Know and, uh
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  Speaker 21: it's just. DIFFERENT i. Think, well the way we had,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 21: IT i think is better because you get the personal
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 21: interaction and you get exercise and. Fitness but you, know
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 21: that's how it. Is and BUT i just wanted to
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 21: comment about. That and, okay you, know AND i played
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 21: three sports in high. School so, anyway, guys thanks of.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 4: All, YEAH i mean the kids are Spending when you
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 4: think about back in my, day there were no, computers
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 4: so there was zero percent of my time spent on a.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: Computer.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 3: ZERO i didn't spend any time on a, computer, obviously
• 1:51:46
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• 1:51:50
  Speaker 3: i don't even do. THAT i still had time to
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: go out and play.
• 1:51:53
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• 1:51:56
  Speaker 6: i can maybe make it a half an hour.
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  Speaker 1: Before oh, no we.
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• 1:52:02
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• 1:52:04
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• 1:52:07
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• 1:52:09
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• 1:52:12
  Speaker 3: had full leagues of Like atari in, television whatever the,
• 1:52:16
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• 1:52:19
  Speaker 5: Constantly i'm too, old but like my, cousins like, THEY
• 1:52:23
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• 1:52:25
  Speaker 5: phones or their computers too. Much it's that everything's organized.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 3: Like every like they don't just think that's the way they.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: Like they their whole day schedule is scheduled from like
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: eight to. Six their whole day is. Scheduled And i'm,
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 3: like don't you guys ever just like play for.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 4: FUN i just remember being on the phone and recruiting,
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 4: kids let's go, play you, know and like begging kids
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 4: to come outside and.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 3: Play the more you, had the more like you you,
• 1:52:50
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• 1:52:52
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• 1:52:54
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• 1:52:54
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• 1:52:55
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• 1:53:01
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• 1:53:02
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• 1:53:03
  Speaker 6: Dominating my youngest son loves fishing and that's all he.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 6: Does he goes around town like he's one of these throwback.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 6: Kids and this woman called the cops on him a
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 6: couple of weeks, ago him and his friend because they were,
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 6: like they try to fish every pond there, is and
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 6: so the cop comedy's, like to be, Honest i'm.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: Just kind of happy you guys are outside doing stuff
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: instead of Being.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 6: Why would someone call a cop and the kid, fishing i, know. Trespassing,
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 6: yeah she didn't want she didn't want. To she actually
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 6: the same person called the cops On Aaron stalkin as. Well,
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 6: ACTUALLY i don't know if you called the. Cops she
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 6: came out Because AARON i Told aaron about the. Spot i'm,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 6: like they're pulling fish out of this place left and.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 6: Right So aaron went with his, kid AND i guess
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 6: the lady came out and doesn't want anyone in the,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 6: properties you, know, fishing so well it's her, property.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 22: But oh it's her property and property, Okay so they
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 22: went On cato like another house and now they're, like you,
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 22: know they trudged through the woods and that house is
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 22: fine with, it so they fish down there.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: Now BUT i just thought it was. Funny the cops
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: are just like the coat watched.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: THAT i just asked him to.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: Leave they're like thirteen year old.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: Kids, Yeah tyler And. Ludlow the subject line see the future.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: Game if you.
• 1:54:04
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• 1:54:07
  Speaker 4: future which player do you think it is most likely
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 4: to be? About all events are about The patriots unless otherwise.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 4: Specified Disclaimer this is just a game and Not paul
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 4: officially making a, statement just about making sure he doesn't
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 4: get in.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: Trouble with his. Shows so who is this i' who
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: is this player?
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 3: About what is this?
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 4: ABOUT A patriot not Named drake may Wins Offensive player
• 1:54:33
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• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: J brown, right.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 4: Could Be Remond, okay someone considered a borderline roster lock
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 4: not Named booty is traded just before the season.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: Starts Christian. Gonzales that's a huge.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: One that's.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 4: Borderline not someone considered a borderline Roster Locke.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 5: Morgan, yeah maybe Camp, yeah, okay a good.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: One douglas?
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 4: UH a player new to the team this, year makes
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 4: a big memorable play that will be praised by the
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 4: ball knowers but not the standard, fan similar to The
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 4: douglas block On henry's touchdown last. Year That's, Reggie yeah
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  Speaker 4: that could be. All that's a good. One, yeah pants
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  Speaker 4: are going to Be that's A Craig woodson like help,
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• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: And help.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 3: Was. Right he was right to make fun of me
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 3: before the email BECAUSE i would just patently push back
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 3: on the whole premise because there's nothing that Any boston
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: athlete has ever done that was. UNDERAPPRECIATED a.
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  Speaker 4: Rookie not Named lemoux gets more playing time this year
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