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Special Forces: Life-Changing Advice You NEED to Hear – Motivational Insights by Jay Morton · Motivation Mindset Podcast

• 0:28
  Speaker 1: All right, So my name is Jay Morton.
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  Speaker 2: I am ex Ex Special Forces XSAS, and I come
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: from Preston. Do you know what I always thought that
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: I always thought that I wasn't set out for the
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: normal life. Do you know we have this vision of
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: a normal life where you get up in the morning,
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: you kiss your wife goodbye and wave goodbye to your
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: kids and set off on your nine to five job
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: on the trainer in the car and you work for
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: those eight or nine hours during the day and then
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: finish and then come home and you know, the teas
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: on the table, and you know you you do whatever,
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: go and play tennis, a golf or go to the
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: gym and then go to bed and then repeat that.
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like I always I always kind of
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: knew deep down that like that life would just not.
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: Entertain me from the start.
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: I you know, looking back now, like I've always been
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: into fitness or pushing myself, like even as a kid,
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: like I was the one that was going out running
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  Speaker 2: when I was at school.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know I remember like my parents or I
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  Speaker 1: remember a.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, for Christmas, I wanted like the weights
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  Speaker 2: bench out of Argos, right, and the set of weights
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  Speaker 2: and I was like thirteen years old, just trying to
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: get massive, just doing everything completely wrong. So like from
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  Speaker 2: an early age, I kind of found comfort in pushing myself,
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: do you know, and all your all your other mates
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  Speaker 2: are you know, still drinking and trying to school with girls,
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  Speaker 2: and I was just trying to throw weights around.
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  Speaker 1: From an early age and just just run.
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  Speaker 2: Even now, I think, you know, that good feeling or
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: that good instinct is generally how I navigate through life.
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: And you know, I think the more you do it,
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  Speaker 2: the more you actually follow that good feeling and listen
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  Speaker 2: to it, the more in tune you get to it.
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  Speaker 2: But back then, you know, sixteen seventeen years old, it
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  Speaker 2: was I don't know, like I I've always had it
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  Speaker 2: in that like I'm competitive, right, I've always wanted to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, secretly or or whatever, just be better than
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: the people around me, and not in a not in
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: like a bad way as in still now, I like
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  Speaker 2: to feel like if we all just went for a run,
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  Speaker 2: that I'd be able to hold my own or just
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: be at the front, because I never I guess I
• 2:53
  Speaker 2: never had that growing up. I think human beings are
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: just pre programmed to just take the easy option and
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: the world we live in right now just you know,
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  Speaker 2: give so many options to just live in those easy options.
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  Speaker 2: Like we live in a house, right, we don't have
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: to feel the weather outside of the elements. You know,
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  Speaker 2: there's no rain. Like we've all got a warm bed
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: to sleep in. We've all got cash in the bank,
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: whether we work or not. You walk down to the
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: shops or getting your transport vehicle, your car. It's like
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  Speaker 2: everything's easy, right, Like life is set up to be easy.
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  Speaker 2: So it's more about just you know, it's by no
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  Speaker 2: one's fault that everyone just ends up living the easiest
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: life that they possibly can and just and you know
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  Speaker 2: that that monotonous kind of life that everyone just seems
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  Speaker 2: to fit into.
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  Speaker 1: Right, leave school, get.
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: Grades, go to college, get a levels, study, got a university,
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  Speaker 2: and then get that nine to five job, like, earn
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  Speaker 2: a load of cash, save up for your retirement, retire
• 3:57
  Speaker 2: have that mortgage in that car, and I don't know,
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: it's like you've got to be able to pull away
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  Speaker 2: from that and try and understand why everyone's doing that.
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  Speaker 2: And everyone's doing it just because everyone else is doing it,
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  Speaker 2: and that's not a reason to be doing stuff. So
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  Speaker 2: you've got to like say, well, what do I want
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  Speaker 2: in life? What do I want to do? And you know,
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  Speaker 2: for me, the military gave me a lot of those
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  Speaker 2: answers because it was something completely different. I think even
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: just going to war or going to battle or being
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  Speaker 2: involved in combat, you know, you grow up in a
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  Speaker 2: different way and you get to see the world in
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  Speaker 2: a different way. Do you know, Like earlier on in
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  Speaker 2: my career, do you know, like I was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I joined the Powers, I was nineteen years old, deployed
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  Speaker 2: to Iraq, I was twenty deployed to Afghanistan in two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and six, I was twenty one, and yeah, like
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  Speaker 2: we got involved in like heavy fighting pretty early on,
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  Speaker 2: like twenty one years old. Like all your mates are
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: still doing the same thing that they're doing back at home,
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  Speaker 2: and you grow up very quick.
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  Speaker 1: It's a different kind of education.
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  Speaker 2: And then I think kind of, you know, like you're
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  Speaker 2: full of testosterone when you're twenty one years old, aren't you,
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  Speaker 2: And you know you almost I don't know, you kind
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  Speaker 2: of want to be in battle, but at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: you don't want the bad, you don't want the negative
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  Speaker 2: aspects of it, Like you don't want to see your
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: mates die or anyone die for that reason on your side.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the older you get, like the more
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: wiser you get, and the more you're able to like
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  Speaker 2: listen to your body and mind more and just like
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  Speaker 2: understand more about I guess what you want and where
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  Speaker 2: you fit into.
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  Speaker 1: Into combat and and.
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  Speaker 2: I guess like the the further on in my career
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  Speaker 2: was more of just like seeing what you human beings
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  Speaker 2: are just capable of doing to each other. And again,
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  Speaker 2: you can look at that in like a really negative way,
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  Speaker 2: but I kind of I looked at it as a positive.
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  Speaker 1: And just.
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  Speaker 2: Because you know, life short, and life's even shorter when
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  Speaker 2: you're shooting bullets at each other. So it's like to
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  Speaker 2: know there's there's kids or whatever or young people or
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  Speaker 2: all these people dying and it's like they're all living
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  Speaker 2: in this.
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  Speaker 1: Like hell whole kind of thing. And it was.
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  Speaker 2: For me, it was more about, you know, it taught me.
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  Speaker 2: It taught me more about just how I want to
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  Speaker 2: live my life outside of that area and understanding that
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: life short and you do what you do what you
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: do to make you happy, and you follow those things
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  Speaker 2: instead of you know what we say about like following
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  Speaker 2: that normal life dream. You know, the things that you're
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  Speaker 2: exposed to. I've always seen as a positive to be honest,
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: because I don't know, it depends what kind of frame,
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  Speaker 2: it depends what kind of character you are, Right, some
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  Speaker 2: people are exposed to battle and death and seeing dead
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  Speaker 2: bodies and teammates dying, and they go one way, right,
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  Speaker 2: they go down.
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  Speaker 1: It's that PTSD route.
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  Speaker 2: And then I think for a lot of people, they
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  Speaker 2: see that stuff and you know, I've heard the saying
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  Speaker 2: a lot of times, but I don't think lads are
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  Speaker 2: that aware of it. Is PTSG, so post traumatic growth,
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  Speaker 2: And I guess that's what I felt was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was seeing all this stuff. I was being exposed
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  Speaker 2: to all this stuff, but like I felt, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: give meet Like like I said, I grew up right,
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  Speaker 2: it gave me a different view on the world. And
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  Speaker 2: they're positives to take from that, Like, you know, nothing,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have anything.
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  Speaker 1: That haunts me.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have any snags or problems now, it's just
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  Speaker 2: do you know, like if you think of it, like
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: humans have been at war for so long, like it's
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  Speaker 2: so it's so natural, it's so natural war. But at
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  Speaker 2: the same time so unnatural because we live in such
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  Speaker 2: a safe environment. So yeah, you just you're just partaking
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  Speaker 2: in history. Like I was nineteen years old turning up
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: at basic training. I remember turning up at the train
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  Speaker 2: station and you meet.
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  Speaker 1: Like you end up. You all meet in the same location, and.
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  Speaker 2: Like the screws of the corporals come and take up
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  Speaker 2: to you up to the camp, and I remember looking
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  Speaker 2: around at the other lads and just thinking there's some big,
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  Speaker 2: big lads or but like but everyone looks stronger and
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  Speaker 2: fitter than you, or like more confident or you know,
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  Speaker 2: you just have this perception of them, and they're probably
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: you know, looking back now, they're doing exactly the same.
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  Speaker 2: They're looking at you going like fuck, like these guys
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  Speaker 2: are stronger, fitter than me. I think it's just something
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  Speaker 2: that he humans have got ingrained into it. And then yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you jump in the in the minibuses and drive and
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  Speaker 2: get thrown like a set of like Ron Hills and
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  Speaker 2: a Maroon jumper and ask you you like get your
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  Speaker 2: head shaved, and you're initiated into the into the transformation
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  Speaker 2: camp from civilian to soldier.
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  Speaker 1: And it is literally that right.
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  Speaker 2: You turn up as a civilian you know, wide eyed, eager,
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  Speaker 2: and you leave as as a soldier and it takes
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  Speaker 2: six months, and.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, do you know what I was?
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  Speaker 2: I kind of shocked myself getting through that because I
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  Speaker 2: was never I was never the fittest, like, I was
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  Speaker 2: never the strongest. I was never at the front, like,
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  Speaker 2: and we used to do these exercises where.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you you'd be it'd.
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  Speaker 2: Be warm up before we went on a tab and
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  Speaker 2: the PTI s would you know, point to a tree
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  Speaker 2: and just say right, everyone to that tree and back.
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  Speaker 2: Last last ten, go again. And I'd always been that
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  Speaker 2: last ten and then it'd be right, go again, last five,
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  Speaker 2: go again, and I'd always been.
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  Speaker 1: That last five.
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  Speaker 2: But I kind of like I had a bit of
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  Speaker 2: a theory around that, and I guess because I was
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  Speaker 2: never the fittest, never the strongest, but I've always completed
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  Speaker 2: stuff and always hung on. So I've always been used
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  Speaker 2: to being, you know, in that fatigue state, like that's
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  Speaker 2: quite normal for me, which, as we all know, that
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  Speaker 2: builds resilience and that builds a stronger mind and body.
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  Speaker 2: Whereas the front runners they were just used to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: running at their normal pace and just being okay with that.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, when you deployed to places like the
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  Speaker 2: jungle or some of these harsher environments like where everyone
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  Speaker 2: is on that level of fatigue, Like for me, it
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  Speaker 2: was just normal, and you'd see some of the fittest
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  Speaker 2: people just fall over and you know, collapse with heat
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  Speaker 2: stroke or you know, just not be able to carry
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  Speaker 2: on just because of the conditions. I've just always been
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: someone who can put one foot in front of the other.
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  Speaker 2: And I think if you break down any mental or
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  Speaker 2: physical challenge, it's just a case of progression. And as
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: long as you can keep that momentum and keep that
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  Speaker 2: progression going forward, you'll get to where you need to go.
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  Speaker 2: Like going back to again, like I'm in my comfort
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  Speaker 2: zone when I when I'm fatigued, So you know that
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  Speaker 2: I just know that I can just keep you break
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  Speaker 2: it down, right, and it's just one step, and then
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: the next step is just one step and just you know,
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  Speaker 2: forget about where it is that you need to go
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  Speaker 2: and just concentrate on that next step, and like the
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  Speaker 2: rest is just time, and time moves right, time ticks down,
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  Speaker 2: and then eventually you just find yourself in that position.
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  Speaker 2: So we on that two thousand and six tour of Afghanistan.
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  Speaker 2: So the first time that I came under contact, we
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: deployed out. So it's supposed to be a peacekeeping operation,
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  Speaker 2: and we didn't know how to go as noisy as
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: what it did. But we deployed to a place called
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: Nao Zad and there was we had a patrols platoon
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  Speaker 2: that were already stationed there doing some reki stuff and
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  Speaker 2: we literally landed on these landed in these H forty
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  Speaker 2: seven helicopters and I remember running off the back of
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  Speaker 2: the helicopter and you know, that was the first time
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: that I had the crack and thump of a round
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  Speaker 2: flying over your head. And we'd just run into this
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: massive scrap that the patrols lads were in. So there's
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: kind of RPGs flying over our head, machine gun fire,
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  Speaker 2: and you know what, I think soldiers are very good
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: at hiding fear with humor. And we just looked at
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: each other and just burst out in laughter, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I remember just running to this wall and just getting
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: down behind this wall and we all just looked at each.
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  Speaker 1: Other and just went, well, this is it, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Like this has started?
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  Speaker 2: And that was a long day, like you know, I
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: think we're in contact for say six to eight hours,
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  Speaker 2: and personally, I you know, I think once you get
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: over the like once you get over the first reaction
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  Speaker 2: of the first round that's been fired and the first
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  Speaker 2: round that you've heard, the rest of it just all
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  Speaker 2: sounds sounds the same, like you're in that moment then,
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  Speaker 2: and the rest is just about thinking logically about how
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: you combat that situation and how you get out of
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  Speaker 2: that situation. Like those kind of contacts, you've got a
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: lot of time to stop and think because generally, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you could be shooting at each other from one hundred
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  Speaker 2: meters away, you know, nine times out of ten or yeah,
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  Speaker 2: nine times out of ten, those rounds aren't very accurate,
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  Speaker 2: So you can generally get behind some sort of cover
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  Speaker 2: and take time to plan and think about your next move.
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  Speaker 2: You know, as your career progresses and you end up,
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  Speaker 2: you know, fighting closer to people, so in buildings or
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: in closed spaces, the time it takes to make the
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: action or make the decision gets reduced. So that's more
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: about your instincts and more about just training that you've
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: done previous. You know, guys in the Special Forces are
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: like we're still human beings.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're the same as everyone else. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's no.
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  Speaker 2: Difference there, Like you still feel, think and do everything
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  Speaker 2: that every normal person does. It's just you've got a
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  Speaker 2: different you know, you picked a different job career, and
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: you've got a different level of training. Selection is like
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: a race of attrition, and you generally start with around
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty to one hundred and seventy.
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  Speaker 1: In the first three weeks you're probably.
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  Speaker 2: Down to around fifty, and then you go out on
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: the next phase and you know you could come back
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  Speaker 2: with say twenty twenty five people, which is probably a
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: good a good course, and then the rest.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Of it's just training to get you ready to join
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: joining the squadron.
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  Speaker 2: I think for me, like I enjoyed selection, Like there
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: wasn't one day when I woke up and just went
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: that I didn't want to be here. It was more
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: just about, you know, just proving to myself that I
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: could get through each day. And I kind of found
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: enjoyment in seeing people fall off. I think a lot
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: of people do, as in not in a bad way, right,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't rub it anyone's.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Face in it, But when you're doing things that are.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Difficult, and you've got an easy option to get out.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: You can just walk off and package it and go.
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  Speaker 2: You'll be in a warm shower and bath and you know,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: whatever food you want, So it's easy to quit, which
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: makes it you know, the majority of people do quit.
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  Speaker 2: I think when that happens, like you see their weakness
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: and it pumps you. It puts you up a level, right,
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  Speaker 2: And I think as as the less able members or
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: the less able soldiers start to drop off, you end
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: up with a tight knit bunch of guys that have
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: all been through the same shit and you form bonds
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: through those through those dark times, you can't react it
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: with a bit of humor. At the end, you're left
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: with a good group of ads. Yeah, do you know, Like,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: resilience is probably one of the biggest things for soldiers
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  Speaker 2: to have, and being a soldier will teach you about
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  Speaker 2: resilience and all resilience is just an ability to be
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: able to do difficult things. Because at the end of
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: the day, if you're in the Special Forces, you're working
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: with a group, a group or a team, and you're
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: all going out and doing taking actions under high stress
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: environments and then you've got to be able to read those.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Environments well.
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  Speaker 2: And then obviously a base level of decent fitness that
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: you can work on. But you know, like every Special
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Forces soldier just wants to get better at what he's doing.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a high you know, it's a high.
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  Speaker 2: Testosterone, high alpha male environment where everyone's just trying to
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: outdo each other secretly, and you know, everyone wants to
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  Speaker 2: be better at it. Everyone wants to be better better
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  Speaker 2: than everyone else's shooting or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good environment to be in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it could be quite intimidating when you first start,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: because especially me, like I was twenty four when I.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Passed selection, and like the rest of the guys in my.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Troop role, you know, late thirties, early forties, they're all men,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: and yeah, so it's it's quite intimidating. And you know
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: the stats, they've already got high standards, right, they've been
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: using all the kit and equipment and doing runouts way
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: before I've turned up. So it's you know, I've I've
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: now like I've done a six month course, right, which
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: is selection, And that doesn't mean that I'm a Special
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Forces soldier Like that comes after, like when you start
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: training with the teams, when you start learning different crafts.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: You know, I went away and became a medic, you know,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: became a highly a highlituded parachutist.
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  Speaker 1: Like all these different skills.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: And experiences that you that you learn that you can
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: then bring to the team. So yeah, it's you know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: you want to prove yourself and you want I want
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: to feel accepted. Like fear generally only happens for like
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: a short period of time because there's usually a logical
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: explanation that you can put to why you're feeling that fear,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's around that's just cracked over your head or
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: something that's just exploded, or you know, maybe there's some
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: rock fall on a mountain, Like that's a moment to
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: be scared, right, But there's a logical explanation for it,
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  Speaker 2: and there's usually an action that you can take which
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: is going to get you out of that fear feeling
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  Speaker 2: get you to some sort of safety.
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  Speaker 1: So you've got to break it down that way.
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  Speaker 2: I think kind of the things that scare me more
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  Speaker 2: than than those dangerous kind of things are just like
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: living a stagnant life or living a boring life, like boredom,
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  Speaker 2: a mediocrity fit like scare me way more than than
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: climbing everest.
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  Speaker 1: Or being shot at. And I think, like I'd hate
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  Speaker 1: to just get to.
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  Speaker 2: The age of like eighty or ninety years old or
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: one hundred and just turn back and just think that
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I've wasted time. Just start small, and you've got to
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: like be honest with yourself, right, it's your choice, Like
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: it's your life, like no one else is going to
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: change it, So you've got to make that decision.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: And then it's.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you're not happy with your life and
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: you want to change it, then then do it right.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: And I don't know what.
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  Speaker 2: That is, what anyone else is feeling, but you know,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: if you start small and whether it's you know, you
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: want to get in shape, like start walking, start trying
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: to create habits that are healthy for your body and
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: for your mind, you know, start walking during a gym,
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  Speaker 2: during classes. Put yourself in these situations and this is
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: where you grow, right, because you're putting yourself in an
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: uncomfortable situation. And my uncomfortable situation is completely different to
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: someone else's uncomfortable situation.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: And you know, you could say that.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: A million times over, and career is like a big one, right,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Like that's the that's the that's the comfiest thing that
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: people have, is a career and money coming in, because
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: that's you know, without money, like the chances of being
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: homeless and not being able to pay for food for
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: your kids and your family, Like that's that's the biggest fear,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: right And I can't tell anyone to change that. You know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: You've just got to ask yourself whether that's something that
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: you want to change.
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  Speaker 1: Mhm hm