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- Tanya: I keep hearing about this Medicare Part B late enrollment penalty—how does it actually work in North Carolina, and how can I avoid it? If you’re planning when to sign up, you’ll want to know the rules before you get stuck with extra costs. Tanya: Welcome to Smart Coverage. Real Advice., the insurance podcast from The Jordan Insurance Agency. I'm Tanya, your host, and I'm here with Billy Jordan, a licensed insurance agent and the president of The Jordan Insurance Agency. Billy: Glad to be here, Tanya. A quick disclaimer: we're not affiliated with or endorsed by Medicare or any government agency, and this is general education, not advice for your situation. Now, let’s get into how the Medicare Part B late enrollment penalty works for folks in North Carolina. Tanya: So, Billy, let’s start with the basics—what is this late enrollment penalty, and when does it hit you? Billy: If you don’t sign up for Medicare Part B when you’re first eligible and you don’t have qualifying group health coverage, Medicare adds a ten percent surcharge to your monthly Part B base premium for every full twelve-month period you go without coverage. That penalty usually sticks with you for as long as you have Part B, unless you qualify for a Special Enrollment Period or a Medicare Savings Program. Tanya: So, if you wait, you’re paying extra every month, not just once? Billy: Exactly. And it’s not a one-time fee—it’s a monthly surcharge that can last for life. Let’s say you delayed enrolling for twenty-four months after you were first eligible, and you didn’t have creditable employer coverage. Medicare would tack on a twenty percent penalty to your standard Part B premium. For twenty-three months, it’s only a ten percent penalty, because they only count full twelve-month periods. Tanya: Oh, so partial years don’t count toward the penalty? Billy: Right, only full twelve-month blocks. That’s a common source of confusion. People worry about every month, but unless you hit another full year, your penalty doesn’t jump again. But even a delay of a few months can leave you without any coverage for doctor visits or outpatient care until your Medicare starts. Tanya: How do they actually calculate the dollar amount? Does it ever go up? Billy: Yes, it does. The penalty is recalculated every year based on the standard Part B base premium. As that base premium goes up, so does your penalty in dollars. The percentage stays the same, but the actual dollar amount increases as the base premium rises. If the base premium rises next year, your penalty amount rises too. Tanya: So, you’re locked into that percentage, but the actual dollar amount can keep growing? Billy: That’s right. The percentage doesn’t change, but the penalty dollar amount goes up each time the base premium increases. A lot of people think the penalty is a flat fee, but it tracks with national Medicare rates. Tanya: What counts as “qualifying coverage” that lets you delay enrolling in Part B without getting hit by the penalty? Billy: Medicare considers group health insurance from current, active employment as qualifying coverage—either your own or your spouse’s, and in some disability cases, a family member’s. But here’s where it gets tricky: the size of your employer matters for payment, not for the penalty. If your employer has fewer than twenty workers, Medicare is usually the primary payer at age sixty-five. That means if you delay Part B, your group plan might not pay certain claims, and you could be left with big bills. Tanya: So, just because you’re still working and have insurance doesn’t automatically mean you’re safe to delay? Billy: Exactly. It’s a common mistake—people assume any work coverage protects them from penalties, but if the plan doesn’t coordinate with Medicare the right way, you could end up both uncovered and penalized. Always check with your HR or benefits administrator before deciding to wait. Tanya: What about COBRA or retiree coverage—do those count? Billy: No, neither COBRA nor retiree coverage counts as creditable for delaying Part B. The Special Enrollment Period tied to current employment ends eight months after you or your spouse stop working or lose group health coverage, whichever comes first. COBRA doesn’t extend that deadline. If you wait until COBRA ends, you’re likely to face the penalty and a gap in coverage. Tanya: What’s the process to avoid the penalty if you’re working past sixty-five? Billy: To avoid the penalty, keep your employer group coverage active and document it carefully. When you’re ready to switch to Medicare, you’ll need to submit a Part B enrollment application and get written proof from your employer showing your coverage dates. Social Security needs those documents to approve your penalty-free enrollment. Contact your HR and Social Security ahead of time to make sure all the paperwork lines up. Tanya: What happens if someone misses all those deadlines and has to use the General Enrollment Period? Billy: If you miss your Initial Enrollment Period and don’t qualify for a Special Enrollment Period, you have to wait for the General Enrollment Period—January first through March thirty-first each year. Your Part B coverage then starts the month after you sign up, so you could have a gap with no outpatient coverage. Plus, every uncovered month counts toward the penalty calculation. Tanya: That could really add up if you’re not careful. Where can people in North Carolina go for help with all this? Billy: There are a few great options. The North Carolina Seniors’ Health Insurance Information Program, or SHIIP, offers free, unbiased counseling statewide. You can also work with an independent broker—like The Jordan Insurance Agency—to review your group plan details and coordinate your Medicare start date. And, of course, the Social Security Administration is the official source for enrollment paperwork and questions. Tanya: Does enrolling on time affect anything else besides avoiding the penalty? Billy: Yes—it also protects your six-month Medigap Open Enrollment Period. That window starts the first month you have Part B and are age sixty-five or older. Enrolling on time gives you your best shot at buying any Medicare Supplement policy available in North Carolina with no health questions. If you delay, you might miss that one-time guaranteed-issue window. Tanya: Can you give an example of someone who made a mistake with timing? Billy: Sure. I once worked with someone in Charlotte who thought COBRA would let him delay Part B. He waited until COBRA ended at age sixty-six, then tried to sign up. He not only faced a twenty percent penalty, but also had several months with no outpatient coverage because he missed the Special Enrollment Period tied to his actual employment. It was a tough lesson on why documentation and timing matter. Tanya: Three things to remember. One, delaying Medicare Part B without qualifying group coverage adds a ten percent penalty for each full year you wait, and that penalty grows as premiums rise. Two, only current employment-based group health insurance counts as creditable coverage for delaying Part B—COBRA and retiree plans do not qualify. Three, missing enrollment windows can leave you both uncovered and penalized, so always confirm your timeline and paperwork with your HR and Social Security. Tanya: For a personalized look at your situation, book a free thirty-minute chat with Billy and his team at thejordaninsuranceagency.com/podcast. Billy: I'm Billy Jordan with The Jordan Insurance Agency. Until next time, take care. Tanya: Thanks for listening to Smart Coverage. Real Advice. from The Jordan Insurance Agency.