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Thursday Night CrossFit Talk on Sunday - 2 Workouts are Submitted! Where Does Everyone Stand? · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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What is going on, everybody?
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Welcome to Thursday Night
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CrossFit Talk on a Sunday morning,
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live from Jamie Latimer's dining room.
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Good morning.
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So strange time for us,
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but it's been a fun weekend.
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We want to recap a little
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bit about what's been going
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on here in Lansing, Michigan.
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Um,
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and also what's been going on around
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the world in CrossFit quarterfinals.
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Um,
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so I remember the TV talk I wanted to
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tell you.
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Oh, May 2nd.
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Reacher.
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Welcome to Wrexham.
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Oh, nice.
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Season three.
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I haven't been following.
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Are they doing good?
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I'm trying not to follow.
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I've heard hints,
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but I want to be surprised
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when the season comes out
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and watch it through.
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All right.
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Yeah, it was supposed to premiere earlier.
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They pushed it back a couple weeks,
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and now it's premiering, I think,
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May 2nd or May 3rd,
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one of those two days.
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That's exciting.
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But that means we'd actually
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only get to watch like one
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or two episodes a week and
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then have to wait for the next week.
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Yeah, true.
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Can't binge it anymore.
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so that's just for kenneth
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you know he gets upset if
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we don't do at least a
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little bit of uh talk tv
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talk back at the hotel
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julie and I've been
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watching old movies um we
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watched the hangover
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yesterday we watched um the
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princess diaries okay yeah
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good stuff on on tnt or tbs
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or one of those that's been
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while I've been editing videos
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That's been on the TV.
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So you are all done with all the workouts.
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We're only going to talk
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about the first two though.
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Okay.
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Because scores have not been
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submitted for events three and four.
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You didn't necessarily do them in one, two,
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three, four order.
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No.
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But we're going to talk
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about them in that order.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So one is the interval workout.
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You did that one on Friday.
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Thursday.
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Thursday.
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Yeah.
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I caught Haley, but I missed you.
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So you have reported on
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social media that that was
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the worst workout of the four.
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Yeah.
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I think that one hurt the worst.
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It was it because your goal
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was to push every,
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every round of that and every segment.
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Yeah.
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Um, I mean, yeah,
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like those high power
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output workouts for me always hurt.
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I like a 17 minute burpee
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wall ball is just consistent movement.
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And that doesn't hurt me.
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I mean,
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Like I felt like that was just,
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just get through it.
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And that one was fine.
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The intervals you've got to
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like ramp up that row and
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then grind through it.
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And I love step ups.
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They just weren't going well
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for me on Thursday.
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I,
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I probably should have not done it
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Thursday, but it is what it is.
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I agree, but for selfish reasons.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You had a goal and you stuck
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to your goal pretty well.
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You showed me your board at
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the gym and that it was
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just on the last set of step-ups in row,
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right?
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Or just last set?
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The last two rounds of step-ups.
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Last two rounds of step-ups.
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You fell off pace just a little bit.
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Yep.
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Just fatigue?
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Yep.
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Yeah, like I said,
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because I did the clean and
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jerks beforehand and stood
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around and judged and
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didn't recover my legs.
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So into round two, I was like, oh,
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probably shouldn't have done this.
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Like my legs just aren't
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powering through like they
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normally would.
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And you ended up with 196 reps?
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195.
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195.
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So almost 200.
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Yeah.
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Not 300, like some people predicted.
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I got that one right on heat one.
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So the one thing that I
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observed watching your
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community do this is you
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had someone that was like 6'4", 6'5",
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do this workout.
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And it was obvious that
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snatches were his weakness.
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Oh, yeah.
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Because he's got some mobility issues,
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too.
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And we actually talked while he was going,
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like, should he even do the snatch?
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Because his first round of
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row was 28 calories.
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Yeah.
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And it's fair to say he's
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not in the elite status of quarterfinals,
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right?
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And then his first set of
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step-ups were like in the mid... Yeah,
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I think like 23 or 24.
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They fell off after round one.
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But round one was like way up there.
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And, um,
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and what was cool about him is
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when he stepped up,
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like it was immediately at hip extension.
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Like he doesn't,
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he doesn't have to like pop at the end.
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It was just boom up.
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He went.
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And I was like,
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should he even be doing the snatches?
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Because it, his mobility was making it.
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So there was,
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there had to be more effort
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in that than the other
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stuff and maybe save that energy to,
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to keep hammering the other two.
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Now, in retrospect,
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what advice would you give him?
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He likes to go out super hot
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and get the reps when he can get them.
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There's not going to be much
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I can say to get him to do
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other than that.
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But I probably would have him...
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back off the row a hair
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because his step ups back way down.
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And I feel like those,
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he should have been able to
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hold onto those a little bit longer.
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Yeah.
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Cause he went like 28, 24,
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something on the row.
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And then the row,
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the step ups went like 24 to 20.
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And then he was struggling to get to 20.
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Yeah.
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I don't even think he got 16.
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Yeah.
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it fell off but yeah um but
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it was fun to watch like
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different like there's no
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like you would never tell
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haley not to snatch right
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right you would almost tell
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her to back off the road to
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get more snatch because her
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cycle rate was so fast um
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and so that's what I loved
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observing it is all the
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different types of athletes
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you have in the gym like I
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would give them all different advice yeah
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It would definitely, yeah,
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there's a lot of
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gamesmanship to that workout.
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And it,
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it is interesting to watch people's
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choices of which movement they pushed.
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Yeah.
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And then you had,
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I think Jim step ups are not his.
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No, no, even to the 20.
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I mean, the 20 okay for him.
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He actually did great on the step-ups,
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I'll say.
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I think he was extremely
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consistent at like 16 reps every round.
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Nice.
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And his mindset is pretty good.
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He will just push through.
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Yeah,
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and I'm probably confusing box jumps.
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Oh, yeah.
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24-inch box jumps are not great for Jim.
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Yeah.
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It's all melding together.
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So let's move into that one.
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You know,
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everybody was fearing workout too.
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You look great.
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Yeah, it felt smooth.
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It didn't look like you ever lost pace.
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Yeah, pretty steady.
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And it even felt like at the
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end you hit the gas and
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were able to give
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everything you had to finish.
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Did it feel that way to you?
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Yeah.
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I felt like I had some in
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the tank still to push at the end.
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And I feel like that'd be one looking back,
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like it would've been nice
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to have somebody like push
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me harder on that one.
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But then do you redline
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earlier and pull a Taylor self?
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I don't know.
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Cause I felt super comfortable,
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like that whole workout too,
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like too comfortable.
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I don't know.
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Well,
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I don't think you could have added
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any speed to the wall balls.
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They just are what they are.
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I think I could have maybe done two sets.
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The wall balls weren't bothering me.
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Your rests were so short.
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Yeah.
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From an observer's point of view.
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You definitely showed at the
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end you could have went
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faster on the burpees, but at what cost?
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Yes.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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That's the unknown.
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Yeah.
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That's exactly right.
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Again, watching other people in the gym,
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that workout was brutal for some.
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Yeah,
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most people said that was the worst one.
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And again,
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I just think it's because most
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people don't want to work
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for 20 minutes straight and
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don't like burpees.
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I like burpees.
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And
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I also don't think people
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will necessarily push
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themselves to this extreme
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intensity in the interval
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workout to make it hurt.
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I agree.
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I would say that...
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Uh, it was funny.
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I was yelling at you.
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Like, this is where you,
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this is where you win this workout.
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And that was last 50 burpees.
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Yeah.
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And you could tell, like,
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you knew you had the
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confidence to finish strong.
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It was just, it was just fun to watch.
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I didn't know the time Aaron
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never gave me.
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And I,
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my back was to the clock the entire
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time burpees and wall balls.
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So I had no idea where I was at.
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No idea.
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You,
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you always have like a pacing written
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out.
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Yeah.
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Did you hit it or no?
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I was ahead.
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Cause I think I wanted to be
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at six minutes, like 12 ish and 18,
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like 18 ish was my plan.
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Yeah.
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So yes, I was ahead.
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Veronica jumps in and says she loved it,
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but would rather face the box.
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No, it was definitely faster with that.
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Yeah,
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it didn't seem like the lateral was
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slowing you down at all.
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It was faster.
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Yeah,
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and like watching Fi and all those people,
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it didn't seem to slow them down either.
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Right.
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I thought it looked more fluid laterally,
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even though you were
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allowed to do it however you wanted.
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I feel like that's a mental
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thing you're telling yourself.
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I honestly don't think I
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changed anything about my
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jump and step down.
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I just didn't turn my body
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as much to do the burpee.
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Yeah.
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You're less dizzy.
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Yeah.
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So I feel like, I don't know.
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I feel like people were
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thinking they were jumping
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sideways and they didn't like it,
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but I think they just needed to be like,
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Bring that bring that
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outside foot up high and
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you're almost facing the
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box and you just don't turn
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as much when you step off.
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Trying to live 32 says
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faster for high level people, not for me.
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It shouldn't be slower,
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I can tell you that much.
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There's literally nothing different.
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Well, I I'll tell you for me,
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like box jumps are always a mental game.
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Like I have,
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I have ripped off my shin skin
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so many times, like I have a scar,
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no matter what,
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no matter which way you orient me,
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I'm going to,
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I'm going to have a mental issue with it.
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So it's going to be slow regardless,
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lateral facing,
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because the minute I don't
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concentrate is when I go down.
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Yep.
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And trying to live follows
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up with just a rhythm issue for me.
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I think, sort of think that's what it is,
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is a mental, it's a rhythm thing.
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Like people aren't thinking
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what to change.
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You just needed to do like
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two sets of 12 before you
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started and get in the
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mindset of this is how I'm
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doing my burpees.
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So that's all done.
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You have three and four in the books.
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There is some minor debate
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as to maybe redoing three.
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Yeah, I'm not happy with my score,
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but it's a shoulder issue and it's,
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is it worth pushing that
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right now in this stage of the game?
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And probably not.
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It's a pride thing for
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placing in the North America East for me,
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which is stupid.
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So I need to just tell
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myself to move on and get
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through the stage for age group and.
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know that if my shoulder was
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normal I would I would
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probably be where I expect
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to be yeah I mean without
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giving away your score
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through the rope climbs and
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the wall facing strategic
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you were on fire yeah it
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was just fit the finish got
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you and it wasn't it was not a
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It was not a capacity issue.
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It was from the first muscle up.
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You could tell it was a shoulder issue.
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Yes.
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So it was, there was no,
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it wasn't about fatigue.
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Um, it was strictly about, I will say,
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I think it's a little bit
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of pulling fatigue and
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that's how I do ring muscle ups.
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So rely relying on that and
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not having full pull
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strength because of rope
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climbs and total bar.
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Probably affected it a little.
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Didn't help the shoulder position.
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But yeah.
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Yeah.
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So you are currently sitting
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in fourth in your age group.
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80th-ish in North America East.
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56th.
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56th.
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Better than I thought.
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Wow.
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That's really good.
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Our other co-host,
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which I believe is doing a workout today.
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So I invited her on,
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but I know that she was
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busy today a little bit.
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She is sitting in seventh.
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Yeah.
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North America East.
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So she's in a really good
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spot going into semis.
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Just has to hold on for the
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last two workouts,
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which should not be a problem for her.
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Agreed.
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It'll be good workouts for her.
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So everything's going well there.
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Let's talk about universally
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Yonekoski killing it as he
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has been doing all season
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and leading quarterfinals.
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Is he the winner worldwide right now?
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Yeah.
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Nice.
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That's crazy.
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I could see that with these
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first two tests.
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wins the Open, you know,
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his best finish ever at the
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Games last year, wins the Open,
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winning quarters going in
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after the first two events.
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Yeah, pretty awesome.
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And on the women's side, surprise,
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surprise.
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Tia Toomey.
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Tia Toomey.
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She's back.
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I think her toughest test, though,
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is workout three.
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with the wrist.
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We'll see how that goes.
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Um, but the first two, not a surprise.
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I know,
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I know we talked a little bit about
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the burpee pushup.
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Yeah.
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Um,
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but the true test I think is going to
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be these muscle ups and the
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turnover with the handstand pushups.
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Yeah.
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Handstand pushups.
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And what she said,
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front rack is what bothered her.
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Peter Benoit says,
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do you think the volume of
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the four workouts would
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affect a redo or not?
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Thinking about handstand
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pushups specifically.
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Her handstand pushups never
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faltered at all.
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Yeah.
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The handstand pushup, the volume of hands,
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it's not a handstand pushup workout.
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For Jamie.
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Right.
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For people of handstand pushups,
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it's not a,
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if you have good handstand pushups,
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strict,
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it's not a handstand pushup
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workout at all.
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So no, I would not say that volume.
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Honestly,
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I think doing clean and jerks
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first for me,
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I'm so tight in my traps
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that I think that's pulling
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my shoulder out of place.
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I think that maybe it was a bad decision.
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Okay.
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And it's too late.
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I've already done them.
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Learning.
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You got to learn through the
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whole process and make sure
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you don't repeat the same mistake.
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Right.
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So, yeah.
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So those are your overall leaders.
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Looking at the leaderboards,
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no big surprises.
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In the individual side,
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we checked on a couple
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people we were interested in,
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like Tudor Magda.
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uh 17th I believe in the
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west yeah um pretty good
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for not really his
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strengths in his first two
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workouts um as kenneth the
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lap always says justice for
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tudor um just trying to see
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how he's doing uh we looked
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at jack farlow uh he's
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doing well and he the clean
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and jerk workout would will
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be a piece of cake for him yeah um
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So, yeah,
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everything looks pretty much as
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you would expect across the board.
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A couple people sitting
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outside the top 40.
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Danny Spiegel.
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Rebecca Vitteson,
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as reported by Barbell Spin.
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Sydney Wells.
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Maybe too far to come back.
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I don't know.
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I haven't looked at the
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other people ahead of her
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and who could possibly come out, but that,
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that range is pretty far.
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Sydney, little nervous for her.
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I don't know how great the
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ring muscle-up workout will
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be for her to try to climb those spots.
19:28
Yeah, she's in 80?
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55th.
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55th.
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Okay.
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Everybody's in 80th place in
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my head for some reason.
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I don't know.
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55th place with a muscle-up
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workout still to come.
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I'm worried for Sydney.
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Yeah.
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But her sister Brooke,
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who we were worried about, is an 11th.
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So she's doing okay.
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Who else?
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Rebecca of Edison,
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that European region is
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just... It's a tough region.
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It's a tough region.
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I just don't know if there's a way.
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Did we look up Yella?
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No.
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Sorry.
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European men.
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Offers way up there.
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Oh, yellow's a ninth.
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That's good.
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He won the interval workout.
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As he should.
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Yeah.
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I think the first two
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workouts are right in his park.
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So he might be safe.
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Might have enough of a cushion.
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Kenneth,
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I don't know about Louis Oscar Moya.
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Did not check on him.
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I think they talked about
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him a little bit on the recap show.
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Because that's who, isn't that who?
21:00
Oh, no,
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that's not who Taylor was having
21:04
the beef with.
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I guess I don't know about
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Louis Oscar Moya.
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Me neither.
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So I did look at some masters.
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All the names you expect to
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be there are there.
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Jason Grubbs down.
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Yeah.
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11th, 12th.
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But again,
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maybe he's thinking not right
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now is not the time.
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Yeah.
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Rudy's winning.
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Kelly Friel's winning.
21:36
Sam Dancer's winning.
21:40
So they're all in good shape.
21:41
Do you think Sam will stick with 35-39?
21:45
I mean,
21:48
he's not even close to contention
21:51
in the West, right?
21:53
I didn't look.
21:55
Because I know that was his goal.
22:03
Oh, he's 11th in the West.
22:05
So maybe that's still his goal.
22:09
He can do both, right?
22:13
Technically.
22:14
Yes.
22:18
So, yeah,
22:20
11th is going to be fine for him.
22:22
Yeah,
22:25
I think he will definitely take the
22:27
semifinal spot and go live
22:30
and see if he can make it.
22:34
We know there were some
22:35
Masters athletes that were
22:37
going to try to do team and
22:39
Masters in the same year.
22:41
Would it be really wild if
22:42
Sam actually did individual and Masters?
22:46
I doubt.
22:47
If he makes it to the game in individual,
22:49
I just think that's what he'll do.
22:50
I don't think he'll go to age group.
22:54
Yeah.
22:55
It's a month difference.
22:58
Yeah.
23:00
I think once you're done with the game.
23:01
games you just want your offseason.
23:03
But I think he'll definitely
23:04
go to semifinals and try to get the spot.
23:08
Yeah.
23:10
Still a cool concept.
23:11
Yeah.
23:14
So there's that.
23:21
There's really not a whole
23:22
lot to talk about because
23:23
you're still waiting on two scores.
23:27
You got your withdrawals.
23:30
Katrin.
23:30
Yeah.
23:32
Katrin's out.
23:33
And I'm sure everybody
23:36
watched the Taylor
23:37
implosion on workout too.
23:41
It's so funny because in my
23:46
CrossFit career,
23:48
I've gone dark a couple times,
23:50
but I don't know if I've
23:50
ever thought to myself,
23:53
you're going to hurt yourself.
23:56
Push through.
23:56
Yeah.
23:58
Yeah.
23:59
Like I've probably done that in my earlier,
24:02
more competitive career,
24:05
like with swimming and football.
24:08
But when you have the one
24:12
person on your shoulder saying,
24:13
if you don't stop,
24:14
you're going to do some damage.
24:17
And the other side of you going,
24:18
don't wuss out and keep going.
24:23
And you decide to go keep going.
24:27
And your body just shuts down.
24:29
That is crazy.
24:34
Does Jamie have any advice
24:36
for how to approach workout four?
24:39
Do you know me as an athlete
24:41
trained to live?
24:41
I don't mean that's the clean and jerks.
24:46
So like, unless you,
24:49
unless you're a weaker athlete like me,
24:51
I don't know.
24:51
I think I'm the good one to
24:53
ask about that workout.
24:56
That's like 80% of my one rep max.
25:01
From an observation
25:02
standpoint and watching the
25:03
people on TV and watching people do it,
25:07
I think it's all about
25:09
whatever your pace is to
25:11
get through the first three
25:13
rounds without a lot of damage.
25:16
Yeah.
25:18
So if the fourth bar is like
25:20
your one rep max or...
25:23
very, very close, then I think you,
25:28
I think you almost need to
25:29
go pretty fast on the first
25:31
two barbells and then
25:34
properly pace the third to
25:35
give yourself some time to hit,
25:38
to hit one or two reps at the final.
25:41
Otherwise it's, you know,
25:43
you should be able to
25:44
manage the first three and you're,
25:46
you're going to take 10,
25:47
15 seconds per rep on the fourth barbell
25:51
Until the last minute and then turn it up.
25:52
Like you don't want to be,
25:54
you don't want to go so
25:55
fast that you're standing around for 30,
25:57
40 seconds near the end.
26:00
Cause that's where I noticed
26:00
a lot of people that have
26:01
the capability are able to ramp up five,
26:05
six extra reps.
26:07
And you don't want to be
26:07
standing there only getting
26:08
one or two reps in the last
26:09
minute because you went too
26:10
hard a little too early.
26:15
Kenneth says, uh,
26:16
the series was called
26:17
Taylor versus the world.
26:18
He had a lot of pressure.
26:19
I'm sure.
26:21
So we talked about this last
26:22
night a little bit.
26:24
And I'm going to be... I
26:29
want to start by saying, like,
26:30
I have nothing but the
26:33
utmost respect for Taylor's self.
26:36
Right?
26:36
Same.
26:37
But I view him as,
26:39
at this stage of his career,
26:41
as a Rudy character.
26:42
Okay.
26:44
Right?
26:45
Yeah.
26:46
His natural skill set
26:49
compared to the three
26:51
people he went against is
26:54
probably deficient in a way.
26:56
but his work ethic and his
27:00
stick-to-itiveness and his
27:02
heart and his frankly his
27:05
balls are bigger than
27:06
everybody else in the room
27:09
and jamie and I were
27:10
talking about it last night
27:11
at dinner that for him to
27:12
compete with this guy these
27:14
guys he had to give every
27:16
ounce of everything he had
27:18
in every workout to stay
27:20
with these guys to beat them
27:24
And it's different in the
27:25
open when you do it once
27:28
and rest a whole week and do it again.
27:29
Right.
27:30
As opposed to three days
27:31
back to back to back.
27:32
Two in one day.
27:33
Four workouts.
27:34
Yeah.
27:36
And so.
27:39
And it's not a dig on him
27:40
because he's got he has
27:41
gotten every bit of juice
27:44
out of what he has every
27:46
every little bit.
27:49
But his body just was done.
27:50
Yeah.
27:52
Like there was nothing left
27:53
to give at the end of that workout.
27:59
And so I found it,
28:00
it's actually fascinating
28:04
what happened with this.
28:05
Yeah, I agree, Peter.
28:06
It is a little,
28:07
it is probably a little bit
28:08
like everyone's first
28:10
experience at the games.
28:12
Just a ton of, like a lot of volume,
28:14
a lot of intensity,
28:16
doing more damage to your
28:17
body than you've really
28:18
ever experienced all in one weekend.
28:22
I mean, I guess I don't really know,
28:23
but from three, four, three,
28:26
four day comps that I've done.
28:28
Yeah.
28:28
Well, you know,
28:29
we're good friends with Corey Leonard,
28:30
right?
28:31
Masters Fitness Collective.
28:32
He had never done a
28:34
three-day full weekend competition.
28:37
He came out on fire Friday and Saturday,
28:40
did way above his expectations,
28:43
won an event.
28:44
Like that's one of the
28:45
coolest things of covering
28:47
the sport that I've ever watched.
28:49
And Sunday came and he just
28:51
looked at me and went, boss, I'm tired.
28:55
Yeah.
28:56
And there's just nothing left, like,
28:58
because you don't know what that's about.
29:00
Right.
29:05
So Kenneth asks,
29:07
what does it say about the
29:08
programming that each
29:08
workout was won by a different athlete?
29:11
Non-crossfitter, so don't honestly know.
29:16
I think it's good.
29:16
Yeah.
29:18
I think we've said from the
29:20
get-go that this was great programming.
29:21
Yeah.
29:24
I will say the biggest
29:25
surprise to me that came
29:26
out of this was Hopper.
29:28
You know,
29:28
what did I say after the games last year?
29:30
I'm giving up on this guy.
29:32
I am not writing his name
29:33
down for anything because
29:36
all he does is break my heart.
29:40
He's changed who he is.
29:41
Yeah.
29:44
So I thought that was really
29:46
cool to watch.
29:50
But I think if you put that
29:55
workout two on its own,
29:57
I think Taylor competes for the win.
30:02
Man, I would love to see him fresh.
30:03
He just had nothing left
30:05
after three other workouts.
30:08
Yeah.
30:11
I personally believe he
30:12
would have won that workout
30:13
had they not done the other
30:15
three ahead of it.
30:16
But that's why they do that
30:18
many in one weekend because
30:20
it's about overall fitness,
30:21
not just about the fitness on one event.
30:25
We did talk about...
30:28
CrossFit mandating the order.
30:31
And I do think that could
30:32
have affected how this played out.
30:35
Cause he obviously would
30:36
have been fresher.
30:37
Cause it would have been
30:38
required to be either one or two.
30:39
Like,
30:40
I guess you can't really mandate that
30:42
so much,
30:43
but definitely could have
30:44
mandated one and two get
30:45
done before three and four.
30:46
If you gave the athletes
30:47
passwords and that would have affected,
30:49
I think it would have affected it.
30:51
So,
30:52
so here's my question to you about that
30:55
concept, because I,
30:58
It's very rare that you go
30:59
into a competition,
31:00
you get to pick how you do it.
31:01
Exactly.
31:02
Right.
31:03
And there's already strategy
31:04
within each workout of how
31:06
you're going to attack that workout.
31:09
Are we testing strategy or
31:12
are we testing fitness?
31:14
I feel like we're testing
31:15
strategy and scheduling and
31:18
availability and, you know.
31:20
What should we be testing?
31:23
Fitness.
31:23
Yeah, 100%.
31:24
Yeah.
31:24
I think.
31:28
I think allowing people to
31:30
choose the order takes away
31:32
an element of fitness.
31:33
Yep.
31:35
And then it's just the
31:36
people who have the best
31:37
corner men who can analyze
31:40
it and tell them what way to go,
31:43
how to game it.
31:44
We've talked about that.
31:45
And we're going to have a
31:47
longer show about that.
31:48
Yeah.
31:49
About everybody figuring out
31:51
how to game the workout to
31:53
make it easier on themselves.
31:56
I think if CrossFit wants to grow,
31:58
they need to take that out of the sport.
32:00
Yeah.
32:02
There has to be a universal
32:04
rule book for the season.
32:07
If you are going to do
32:09
burpee box jump overs,
32:11
this is how the standard
32:13
that it has to be.
32:14
If you're going to do step ups,
32:16
this is the standard it has
32:17
to adhere to for the whole
32:18
season and not change it
32:22
every time there's a new
32:23
level of competition.
32:24
Right.
32:30
Um, so I,
32:32
we are going to talk about that in depth,
32:34
probably at a later show.
32:35
Okay.
32:36
Um,
32:37
cause I don't want to do it in the
32:38
middle of quarterfinals and
32:39
be the group that's just bitching about,
32:42
about stuff.
32:43
I want to do it, um, from, uh,
32:46
an analytical standpoint
32:48
and kind of looking at,
32:49
at the workouts a little bit closely.
32:51
Okay.
32:53
But just from the standpoint of order,
32:54
I think that makes all the
32:56
difference in the world.
32:58
Like you said,
32:59
if you would have been
33:01
forced to do the clean and jerk one last,
33:03
you actually may have done better.
33:05
Yeah.
33:07
Because your shoulder isn't
33:08
fatigued from the clean and
33:09
jerks going into workout three.
33:14
So, yeah.
33:16
It's going to be interesting.
33:17
So, anyway.
33:21
There's that.
33:24
Did you take anything?
33:25
Fi, what the hell, man?
33:27
She looked so incredible.
33:29
And always the smile.
33:31
Yeah.
33:32
Always happy.
33:34
That's what I love about that girl.
33:35
And I've said it a long time ago.
33:38
When I first got access
33:40
underneath the Coliseum,
33:44
I felt like I had imposter syndrome.
33:47
And she was on the demo team.
33:48
And she came running over
33:49
and gave me a hug.
33:50
And I was like, okay,
33:51
I do belong down here.
33:53
And because of that,
33:54
like she'll always have
33:55
that place in my heart and
33:57
she's just freaking awesome.
33:59
And I'm glad she got to get
34:00
some exposure for the great
34:02
person that she is.
34:04
Yeah, I think this was great for her.
34:05
I got her a lot of fans and
34:08
she deserves them.
34:09
Yeah.
34:11
And the fact they did
34:12
donations yesterday to up
34:14
the purse for the women and
34:16
for Lindsay to get some pay
34:19
as well was really cool as well.
34:21
So love that the community did that.
34:25
Any takeaways from either
34:28
the guys or the girls in that?
34:34
No, I do.
34:35
I think it,
34:36
I personally think it helped the guys.
34:38
You can see they're,
34:41
Most of them are sitting up top.
34:43
I think having that little push.
34:47
And I'm curious to see Dalen
34:49
and Colton's redo on number three.
34:55
I'm anxious to see if Taylor
34:58
accepts the invite.
35:00
You think he'll still make it?
35:01
I mean, he's 81st right now.
35:03
Yes, he'll make it.
35:05
That's a big jump.
35:06
He's going to have one of
35:06
the best times in the world
35:08
on the muscle-up workout.
35:09
The number three is going to
35:10
jump him way up there.
35:11
And he held his own on the clean and jerk.
35:14
He did.
35:14
I mean, better than Hopper.
35:17
So I think he's in.
35:20
It'd be a shame if he didn't accept it.
35:23
I think he has so many fans right now.
35:26
I know.
35:28
And the grit he showed
35:29
through this whole thing,
35:30
people want to see it play out.
35:35
it's good.
35:35
It's good test for him.
35:38
So, um, that's my hope.
35:40
And he clearly needs that like three,
35:43
four day competition.
35:45
Bam, go.
35:45
Well,
35:47
and I think they said it yesterday on
35:49
the show that like,
35:51
they've almost become like
35:52
a little brotherhood that those four guys,
35:56
like they just trust each other.
35:58
They like hanging out together.
36:02
Like, and that alone is super cool.
36:05
Yeah.
36:07
He might redo for workout four.
36:09
Why?
36:09
He has an incredible score.
36:12
Yeah.
36:12
I, I think it's three and four.
36:15
Fine.
36:15
Yeah.
36:17
It was the burpee box jump
36:18
over that got him and
36:19
there's no way he needs to
36:20
redo that after what happened.
36:22
You can't.
36:23
And he's yeah.
36:23
Right.
36:24
And it's in Sarah says,
36:27
he said he will go if he makes it.
36:28
Oh, great.
36:29
Awesome.
36:30
Cause I think on Friday he said no.
36:32
Yeah.
36:34
so well good that's good
36:37
kenneth says why do people
36:39
get so fidgety when they
36:40
hear that a peptide company
36:41
paid out for a comp I
36:44
didn't know people were
36:44
getting fidgety well I mean
36:47
I can see why it's well it
36:53
goes back to everything are
36:54
we not wanting money from
36:56
monster or rain right it is
36:58
what it is get the money
36:59
from whoever is willing to
37:00
donate and I'm on record to
37:02
take the money from whoever
37:05
It doesn't mean you have to
37:06
drink a Pepsi after every win.
37:07
Exactly right.
37:11
They need an influx of money
37:13
into this sport to make it
37:15
the best it can be.
37:16
And whoever's going to pony up the cash,
37:21
I think it goes back to in
37:26
the CrossFit world,
37:27
there's these people who
37:28
want it the way it's always been.
37:30
Yeah.
37:32
And then there's a group of
37:33
people who want it to
37:33
change and become something better.
37:37
And I'm kind of in between.
37:38
I want it to be better with
37:40
an awareness of the past.
37:43
But I believe it was
37:45
Progenix was a major
37:48
sponsor of the games.
37:50
And then someone tested
37:51
positive and blamed
37:53
Progenix as a tainted
37:55
supplement way back in the day.
38:01
I might be getting it
38:02
confused a little bit.
38:05
I've been sleeping in a
38:05
hotel bed for three nights.
38:07
But I believe that that was the case.
38:12
So is it the person blaming that's lying?
38:15
Is it Progenix that's lying?
38:17
Yeah.
38:18
Who was it?
38:19
But then mysteriously
38:20
Progenix went away as a sponsor.
38:22
Interesting.
38:23
And I believe Glassman or
38:25
Castro said that the
38:26
supplement company would
38:27
not be a sponsor of the games again.
38:30
Now, you have Jocko,
38:34
and that's technically a supplement,
38:36
right?
38:36
I got the protein.
38:39
Yeah, so they are back, so who knows?
38:43
But I think that's where it stems from.
38:45
I mean,
38:48
Sarah Cox is in a qualifying
38:49
position to move on.
38:52
So...
38:57
I don't know.
39:00
We'll have to see.
39:05
Sir,
39:06
I don't think he has to redo four to
39:07
make up for the bad burpee workout.
39:11
He's going to have one of
39:12
the top five times in the
39:13
world on the muscle-up workout.
39:17
And then he's going to have,
39:18
I think the 30 is a legit
39:21
time on that workout four.
39:25
I mean, that's too ahead of Hopper.
39:28
So I think he's fine.
39:30
And I think he'll make the
39:31
top 40 with or without
39:33
redoing that workout.
39:35
Yeah.
39:38
And I think his body needs a
39:39
rest right now.
39:40
I do too.
39:40
I mean, I guess till tomorrow night.
39:43
So I guess he has today completely off.
39:48
I don't know.
39:51
He looked like he was at max effort there.
39:53
I'd be shocked to see him
39:55
squeak out another rep on that.
39:58
Did you see him say that he
40:02
wants to coach John Young
40:03
and take him to semis?
40:04
Oh, really?
40:04
Aw.
40:08
Do you think that that's possible?
40:13
Yeah.
40:13
I mean,
40:14
seeing John do the five-minute
40:16
burpees gives you some
40:22
I mean, there's potential there, right?
40:23
I didn't see what his wall
40:26
ball burpee workout was.
40:30
Yeah, I don't know if they showed it.
40:31
I have to look at like the
40:33
longer time domain workouts.
40:35
How is he able to sustain?
40:41
So I think there's potential there.
40:43
If Taylor takes on John,
40:46
what kind of content do you
40:48
think that builds and how
40:50
many people are going to
40:51
watch that storyline?
40:58
I mean,
40:59
I think it's a niche group that's
41:00
already following them both,
41:01
to be honest.
41:04
But I think it would be
41:05
great for Taylor's training program.
41:10
Yeah, I think
41:13
I don't know.
41:13
I think it's,
41:15
there's going to be 50% of
41:17
people that want to see John fail.
41:18
Yeah.
41:18
And 50% of people want to see him win.
41:24
I like the guy.
41:25
I want him to be successful.
41:27
I don't think I ever, I don't,
41:30
when he got the five
41:31
minutes under sub five burpees,
41:33
I was ecstatic.
41:34
I know.
41:35
I, I really didn't think he had a shot.
41:36
I thought maybe low fives,
41:40
but I didn't think he had a
41:40
shot of breaking five.
41:41
So.
41:45
So Monday night, the scores will come out.
41:50
We'll know who's in, who's out.
41:53
We'll have a round table on Tuesday.
41:55
We'll talk about that a little bit.
41:58
I'm going to try to bring in
41:59
Coach Krispy Kreme to talk
42:01
about everything after the fact.
42:05
And then we're going to take Thursday off.
42:07
Correct.
42:08
Because it's draft night.
42:10
Correct.
42:11
And my other passion is my Chicago Bears.
42:13
And they have two picks in the top 10.
42:15
So we'll take Thursday off.
42:17
But we're going to do a
42:17
Sunday night show next week
42:20
to kind of rehash everything.
42:23
Talk about who's going to semis.
42:26
Maybe some predictions as to
42:27
how we think each semi will go.
42:28
And then we'll move on from there.
42:33
Sounds great.
42:35
So that's the plan over the next week.
42:37
We have Rebecca Fusile on Tuesday morning.
42:40
Nice.
42:41
She is sitting 11th in the
42:45
West or 7th or 11th.
42:48
One of those.
42:49
She's up there.
42:50
It's all merged.
42:51
She'll do great at work.
42:52
And yeah, workout three,
42:53
she's going to crush.
42:54
She's going to do fine at workout four,
42:55
to be honest.
42:58
We'll see if big Becca comes
43:00
out for the final workout.
43:01
I think she's been working hard.
43:02
I think she's safe.
43:03
That's awesome.
43:04
So we'll get to talk to her
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right after the scores are revealed,
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see where she lands,
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how confident that is going into semis,
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and all of that.
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And with that, I'm hitting the road,
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heading back to Ohio.
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Sad to see you leave.
43:22
It's been a fun,
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fun weekend hanging out
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with Jamie and Aaron and
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all the crew at Redemption Fitness.
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Part two of like a behind
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the scenes of Redemption
43:33
Fitness community will come
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out either tonight or tomorrow.
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And it's actually really good.
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We got some they have some
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kids that are really, really good.
43:47
Yeah,
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we've got some like 12 year olds that
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are trying to prep them for next year.
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Yeah, that Emma,
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her movement quality is so good.
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So good.
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And she did the 13,
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14-year-old weights just to
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kind of see where she was at.
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She got through all the
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cleaning jerks and maxed
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out at the end with weights
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that Ron said she hadn't
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ever done before.
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So it was cool.
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It was cool seeing it.
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We got some of that footage.
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Awesome.
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With that, oh, and if you didn't see it,
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we have Jamie versus Haley last night,
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came out right around
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midnight for a workout too.
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If you want to go watch 300 reps,
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that's such a boring workout to watch.
44:36
It is.
44:36
I tried to be creative with
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like the camera,
44:39
but when you're filming quarterfinals,
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you only get a half circle
44:43
because you can't get in front of,
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you can't get in front of their cameras.
44:46
Right.
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So you're kind of stuck there, but it's,
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if you haven't already fast
44:52
forward to the end,
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I'll just put it out.
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I'm going to clip it and put
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it out as real.
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Um, the end of that video is amazing.
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It's better than anything
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that's happened at quarterfinals.
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Um, with that,
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we'll see everybody next
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time on Thursday night, CrossFit talk.
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Bye guys.