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- 0:00Now picture this.
- 0:01You rinsed your yogurt tub.
- 0:03You check the little number at the bottom, you put it in the
- 0:05blue bin and hope for the best.
- 0:07But then a lot of it doesn't get recycled.
- 0:11And yet one of the biggest legal wins against plastic in Canada started with
- 0:15people doing something even simpler than recycling: picking up trash on a
- 0:18beach and writing down what they found.
- 0:21And we're gonna talk about this fight on this episode of the How
- 0:24to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 0:25I'm your host, Andrew Lewin.
- 0:26I am a marine biologist and science communicator here to tell you all
- 0:30about what's happening in the ocean.
- 0:32This week, we are focusing on marine pollution.
- 0:34On Monday, I did a great interview with Judith Weis on the second edition
- 0:37of her book called Marine Pollution.
- 0:40Just a cool fact, she was my first interview on this podcast,
- 0:43and more than 2,000 episodes later, she is interviewing again.
- 0:47We interviewed for the first edition of the book on the first day, and
- 0:50we are doing it for the second day now, so which is kinda cool.
- 0:53I really appreciate her for coming on.
- 0:55But we're talking all about marine pollution, all different facts.
- 0:58Like, we talked about how the harbor in New York City got
- 1:00cleaned up on the Tuesday.
- 1:02We talked yesterday about how we're actually able to get pharmaceuticals
- 1:04out of the water if we just put the money into our treatment plants.
- 1:08And today we're gonna be talking about plastic, because let's be honest,
- 1:11you can do everything right, put everything in the blue bin, then all
- 1:14of a sudden you read the headline about how there's so much plastic in
- 1:17the ocean, in the fish, and even us, in people, in our lungs, in our blood.
- 1:20It's in the air.
- 1:21It's everywhere, and it can feel like your effort, like, disappears
- 1:24into a system that just doesn't really work in all honesty.
- 1:27And I hate to say it, the system, the whole blue bin thing,
- 1:30was a fossil fuel invention.
- 1:31And so no wonder it doesn't work that well.
- 1:34It's just a way to distract you from what is actually happening, because the fossil
- 1:38fuel industry makes 30% of their funds, of their revenue, from making plastic.
- 1:44so this episode, I'm gonna be honest about what isn't working, and I'm gonna
- 1:48end with what actually is working.
- 1:51Now, I've covered plastic on the show for years, and this is the first time
- 1:54I've actually felt the legal ground shift under it in a way that lasts.
- 2:00Now, as I mentioned, we talked about New York Harbor and
- 2:02how that problem was fixed.
- 2:03Yesterday we talked about, Switzerland and what they're doing to upgrade their
- 2:06plants to get hormones out of the water.
- 2:08But plastic is different.
- 2:09It comes from everywhere: bags blowing off a truck, tires wearing down, clothes
- 2:15in the wash, litter in the parking lot.
- 2:18It's really difficult to kinda get your head around everything that happens.
- 2:22You can't build one plant to catch it.
- 2:25That's why this one, the plastic, needs a different kind of fix.
- 2:29So let's talk about the thing that most of us really think is solving the problem.
- 2:34That's recycling.
- 2:35Now here's a number that surprises almost everyone: 9%, just 9%.
- 2:39A few years ago, the federal government hired Deloitte to study
- 2:42where Canada's plastic actually goes.
- 2:44The answer?
- 2:45Using 2016 data, of about 3.2 million tons of plastic Canadians threw away
- 2:51of that year, only 9% was recycled.
- 2:5486% went to the landfill, and about 29,000 tons, roughly 1%, ended up as
- 3:00litter in parks, in rivers, in lakes, and of course, eventually the ocean.
- 3:05The global picture looks almost the same.
- 3:07Organizations found that the world's plastic waste doubled between 2000
- 3:11and 2019 to 353 million tons a year.
- 3:169% recycled, half goes to landfill, about a fifth incinerated, and 22%
- 3:23mismanaged, which is the polite way of saying it escaped into the
- 3:26environment and got into our oceans.
- 3:28So why is recycling so hard?
- 3:30' Cause plastic isn't one material.
- 3:33It's polyethylene, polypropylene, polystyrene, PET, PVC, all the
- 3:39Ps. each one melts differently and has to be handled separately.
- 3:44Then there are the colors, and the dyes, and the additives, and the labels,
- 3:47and the food stuck to the inside.
- 3:49Mix them together and you get something that nobody really wants to buy.
- 3:53That's what it really is.
- 3:53It's all about who can buy the recycling material.
- 3:56That's why so much of what goes in the blue bin never becomes anything new.
- 4:01It's also why people who study plastic keep saying the same
- 4:04thing over and over again.
- 4:06We can't recycle our way out of this.
- 4:08We have to make less of it.
- 4:10Recycling still plays a part, but it's not gonna carry the entire load.
- 4:14Now here's what happens to plastic that doesn't get recycled.
- 4:18It doesn't go away, it doesn't, like, break apart.
- 4:20there are, like, pieces five millimeters or smaller, most
- 4:24of them are too small to see.
- 4:25These are microplastics.
- 4:26They've been found in seawater, sea ice, fish, shellfish, table salt, rain, air.
- 4:32And scientists that study microplastics have this problem that a lot of
- 4:35other researchers don't face.
- 4:37They can't find anything clean.
- 4:39Like, there's no reference material.
- 4:42A good e-experiment needs a control, something that hasn't
- 4:44been exposed so you can compare.
- 4:46But microplastics are in the air of the lab.
- 4:49They settle out, of the ventilation.
- 4:51They shed from lab coats and plastic equipment.
- 4:54Some labs now work in ultra-clean rooms just to get a reading they can trust.
- 5:00And in February 2025, a team led by researchers at the University
- 5:03of New Mexico published a study in Nature Medicine that made
- 5:06headlines around the world.
- 5:08They measured plastic in 91 human brain samples, from people
- 5:11who died between 1997 and 2024.
- 5:14They reported that the median amount of plastic in the brain rose by
- 5:17about 50% between 2016 and 2024.
- 5:2150%. The media ran with the idea that we each have a spoonful
- 5:27of plastics in our heads.
- 5:29Then other scientists took a closer look.
- 5:30Within weeks, people spotted duplicated images in the paper's supplementary
- 5:34material, which the lead researcher called a clerical mistake that
- 5:37didn't change the conclusions.
- 5:39So by January 2026, independent research has had formally challenged
- 5:43seven high-profile studies on microplastics in the human body,
- 5:47including the brain study, and flagged methodological concerns with more.
- 5:52One big worry, the brain is about 60% fat, and fat can produce a false
- 5:56signal that looks like polyethylene in one of the main testing methods.
- 6:01So where does that leave us?
- 6:03Sounds like a big controversy.
- 6:04Scientists on both sides agree on the core fact: plastic pollution
- 6:08is everywhere in the environment.
- 6:09What we honestly don't know yet is exactly how much ends up
- 6:12inside us and what it does there.
- 6:15We know it's in us.
- 6:16We just don't know how much.
- 6:17It's hard to tell.
- 6:19And this is the frustrating part, the science is hard because
- 6:21plastic is everywhere, and that's problem is proving itself.
- 6:25Waiting for perfect proof means waiting forever.
- 6:28Canada decided, you know what?
- 6:30We didn't have to.
- 6:31So how do you act when the science is this hard to pin down?
- 6:35In Canada, it started on the beach.
- 6:38In 1994, staff and volunteers at the Vancouver Aquarium decided to
- 6:42clean up a beach in Stanley Park.
- 6:45By 1997, it had grown to 400 volunteers at 20 sites.
- 6:49In 2002, it went to national with WWF-Canada as the Great
- 6:53Canadian Shoreline Clean-up.
- 6:55Today, it runs as the Ocean Wise Shoreline Clean-up.
- 6:59Along the way, the volunteers did something that turned out to matter a lot.
- 7:03They picked up the trash and they started counting it.
- 7:06Every bag, every bottle cap, every straw, recorded as data and shared
- 7:11with researchers and policymakers.
- 7:13By 2020, volunteers had organized more than 21,000 cleanups across the
- 7:17country on ocean coasts, lake shores, riverbeds, And year after year, the same
- 7:22kind of items kept topping their list.
- 7:24In 2018, seven of the ten most common items they found were, guess what?
- 7:30Plastic.
- 7:31In October 2020, the federal government released its science
- 7:33assessment of plastic pollution.
- 7:35It pulled together hundreds of studies, and it drew on
- 7:38that shoreline data as well.
- 7:40Its conclusion was clear on the big pieces.
- 7:42Plastic litter harms wildlife through entanglement and
- 7:45ingestion, leading to suffocation, strangulation, and starvation.
- 7:50On microplastics, it said the evidence was still developing, and then
- 7:54it said the most important thing, that action is needed now under the
- 7:58precautionary principle to reduce both.
- 8:00We're not gonna wait until it's too late.
- 8:02We're gonna do this now.
- 8:04In 2021, the government added plastic manufactured items to the list of
- 8:08toxic substances under the Canadian Environmental Protection Act.
- 8:12That listing gave it the legal power to regulate plastic.
- 8:15Its first move was a ban on six single-use items: checkout bags, cutlery, certain
- 8:21food service containers, six-pack rings, stir sticks, and straws.
- 8:26Now look at that list again.
- 8:27Those are the same items volunteers have been pulling off Canadian
- 8:30shorelines and writing down for decades.
- 8:32If you really look at this, you see that people, people who participate
- 8:37in the shoreline helped contribute to this new ban on plastics.
- 8:42It's huge.
- 8:43It was a huge thing that happened, and it empowered people to stand up and
- 8:47say, "Hey, this is what we're finding on our beaches, on our shorelines,
- 8:50on our riverbeds, on our lakebeds, and this is what we're gonna get
- 8:54rid of 'cause we don't want it."
- 8:55And the government listened, and it was great.
- 8:57But then we had a problem.
- 8:59A coalition of plastics producers and industry groups
- 9:02took the government to court.
- 9:04They argued that plastic manufactured items was far too broad to count
- 9:08as a single toxic substance, and that the government didn't
- 9:12have the evidence to back it up.
- 9:13In November 2023, the federal court agreed with them.
- 9:17The judge ruled the listing was unreasonable and unconstitutional.
- 9:21For a moment, it looked like the foundation under Canada's
- 9:24plastic rules might collapse.
- 9:26And to be honest, it wasn't about the six plastics that were banned.
- 9:30It was about all the rest of the things that could happen based on
- 9:33that plastics are toxic to humans.
- 9:35But then the government appealed, and while the appeal played out, the ruling
- 9:39was put on hold, so the ban on those six items stayed in place the whole time.
- 9:43And to be honest, I saw those items disappear and for the most part.
- 9:46Straws, it was still questionable, but a lot of people went to paper straws.
- 9:50I know, people don't like paper straws, but it's better than having
- 9:53plastic straws unless you need it.
- 9:55There's always that option.
- 9:57Now, on January 30th, 2026, the Federal Court of Appeal overturned the decision.
- 10:02And its reasoning is worth hearing.
- 10:03It said plastic manufactured items do qualify as a substance under the law.
- 10:07It said the government had enough evidence to reasonably conclude that plastic can
- 10:11cause harm, and it said the government didn't need to test every individual
- 10:16type of plastic one by one before acting.
- 10:19So basically, the court accepted that you don't need the perfect proof to
- 10:22protect the environment from something this widespread, so the listing stands.
- 10:27Now, the Industry Coalition has asked the Supreme Court of Canada to hear
- 10:31the case, and as I record this, the court hasn't decided whether it will.
- 10:34Either way, the ban stays in effect.
- 10:38So what does that win actually get us?
- 10:41First, the ban itself.
- 10:42The government projected that banning those six items would keep about
- 10:461.3 million tons of hard to recycle plastic out of the waste stream over
- 10:50the next 10 years, and prevent about 22,000 tons of plastic pollution.
- 10:54Now second, something a little bigger, Canada created the
- 10:57Federal Plastics Registry.
- 10:59Companies that make, import, or sell plastic packaging, electronics, and single
- 11:04use products now have to report how much they put on the Canadian market, what
- 11:08kind of plastic it is, and what happens to it at the end of its life: recycled,
- 11:13maybe composted, burned, or buried.
- 11:15For the first time ever, a country is tracking plastic from the factory to
- 11:20the landfill Now for the honest part.
- 11:23Not everything was held.
- 11:24In late 2025, the government proposed dropping its plan to ban the export
- 11:28of those six single-use items, citing trade pressure and the economy.
- 11:33And the later phases of the registry, which would have covered
- 11:36more products, has been postponed.
- 11:38So we're not out of the woods yet, but the foundation is still there.
- 11:41The listing survived its first court fight.
- 11:44the domestic ban is in place, and the registry is collecting data every year.
- 11:49You can't reduce what you can't measure, and Canada is finally measuring.
- 11:54Now this is the piece New York Harbor had and Plastic never did.
- 11:58A way to see where the problem comes from.
- 12:01So when we start looking at all this, if you don't live in Canada, that's fine.
- 12:05it's a great country, but it's fine.
- 12:07I get it.
- 12:07Not everybody can live in Canada.
- 12:09But the thing is, is whether you live in Canada or not, you can join a shoreline
- 12:13cleanup that records what it finds.
- 12:15A lot of the organizations that participate in this records it, or you can
- 12:19record it and send it to somebody, like an organization that will take your data.
- 12:24Now, in Canada, the Ocean Wise Shoreline Cleanup, formerly the Great
- 12:27Canadian Shoreline Cleanup, lets you join one or start your own at
- 12:31any beach, lakeshore, or riverbed.
- 12:32Outside Canada, of course, you can look for Ocean Conservancy's International
- 12:36Coastal Cleanup or a local group that logs this data, just like I said.
- 12:40Now, the data card is the point, Your tally goes to the same kind of dataset
- 12:44that helped build Canada's case.
- 12:46And I always think when you come to help the shoreline, you stay for the people.
- 12:49You, come for the impact, but you stay for the community.
- 12:51You don't wanna start saying, "Hey, we should ban plastic straws," and just
- 12:54see all the people come out, the bots and everything, to say, "Hey, we love
- 12:58plastic straws," and this and that, for the people who don't really need it.
- 13:02And there are people who do.
- 13:03Now I just wanna, think about this.
- 13:04Like, picture a volunteer on a beach in 1994, writing straw just on a data card.
- 13:0930 years later, that same item is banned across the country, and a federal
- 13:13appeal court has confirmed that the government can regulate plastic as toxic.
- 13:17Plastic is still the hardest pollutant in the series, we now have the legal
- 13:21tools, the data, and the registry to start turning off the tap.
- 13:25Somebody recently said it, plastic is really just solidified oil, 'cause
- 13:30it's a petroleum product, so the next time you pick up a piece of plastic
- 13:34on a beach, write it down, because it counts, and your effort counts.
- 13:38And I think that's, not only does it help yourself, but it helps your
- 13:41government, it helps the scientists, it helps policymakers to really
- 13:45understand how you can get rid of plastic and make a case to ban plastic.
- 13:51I'd really love to hear your thoughts on your efforts to clean up plastic.
- 13:54It's great to hear everybody's efforts and their motivation of why they wanna do
- 13:58things, whether it's to just get outside and do something, whether it's to clean up
- 14:02your local beach or riverbed or lakeside, or you just wanna be with a community
- 14:07that thinks the same way you do in person.
- 14:10There's nothing wrong with that.
- 14:11We are in like a lonely pandemic, and we need to get out and see people and be
- 14:15with people that have something in common.
- 14:17And those people who wanna protect the shoreline, who wanna protect the planet,
- 14:21they have a lot in common with you guys.
- 14:23So I wanna thank you so much for joining me on today's episode of the
- 14:27How to Protect the Ocean podcast, and I'd love to hear from you.
- 14:30If you are on Spotify and you're listening to this, they have a comment section.
- 14:33Let me hear you talk about what you wanna talk about in the comments, whether you
- 14:37all wanna talk about this episode or you wanna comment on something else, or
- 14:41you can just hit me up on my socials.
- 14:43The links are in the show notes.
- 14:45Thank you so much for joining me on today's episode of the How
- 14:47to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 14:48I'm your host, Andrew Lewin.
- 14:49Have a great day.
- 14:50We'll talk to you next time, and happy conservation.