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Tom Prendergast: Bury Tomorrow · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

• 0:30
  Speaker 1: Today. We've got Tom from Berry tomorrow. Super excited to
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: chat with you. Tom. You are all the way in
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  Speaker 1: the good old UK across the pond, as they say,
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  Speaker 1: how's across the pond today?
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  Speaker 2: It's all right.
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  Speaker 3: There's been a little bit of sun, which is which
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  Speaker 3: is rare for the UK and especially like the North
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  Speaker 3: because we're like halfway up in Barns Are, like near
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  Speaker 3: Sheffield and Leeds that kind of area. So it's been
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  Speaker 3: uncharacteristically nice. And I've been stuck in this room all day.
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  Speaker 2: So well, yeah, it's all doing interviews.
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  Speaker 3: It's all good now, just just working so just I
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  Speaker 3: do production work, so I've just been doing that today.
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  Speaker 1: We'll make sure you get outside for a second before
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  Speaker 1: before the sun goes.
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  Speaker 2: We've lost it, Mom, it's gone, it's gone already.
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  Speaker 4: Ship. You know something I've always been confused by is
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  Speaker 4: is people from the UK calling the center of their
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  Speaker 4: country the North. And I understand that, you know, you
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  Speaker 4: have you have Scotland up above, yes, a little higher,
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  Speaker 4: but like it always feels weird calling the center of
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  Speaker 4: your country North.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to argue I might get
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  Speaker 3: exiled from the North for saying that.
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  Speaker 4: I like it's just a very London It's it feels
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  Speaker 4: like a very London centric perspective. You know, anything north
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  Speaker 4: of London is just the north.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I think if you're in London, like Birmingham
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  Speaker 2: is north. Like we're right up at the wall, so
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  Speaker 2: what a way away.
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  Speaker 4: I'm glad that you still use the wall as as marker.
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  Speaker 2: That's good. That's the one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, hell yeah go Romans love it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's get started with your just history with maybe
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  Speaker 1: before even Berry tomorrow, Like talk a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: how you got involved in music, just generally.
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  Speaker 3: Generally, like the when I was like sixteen seventeen, I
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  Speaker 3: got involved in the local scene around here, which is
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  Speaker 3: actually where I met Dawson, who was the guitarist, and
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  Speaker 3: we were kind of we were both left hand a guitarist,
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  Speaker 3: so we're friends immediately, and then we just kind of
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  Speaker 3: gigged around in bands in the same scene for a while.
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  Speaker 3: I went off and started doing production work and obviously
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  Speaker 3: Dawson went off and did sol listen some other things.
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  Speaker 3: Eventually joined Berry and that is my ended up being
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  Speaker 3: my kind of link to me joining the band. So
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  Speaker 3: I've done kind of little bits of my own solo stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and I've been in some punk bands and nothing really
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  Speaker 3: of any kind of commercial note.
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  Speaker 2: But probably twenty twenty one, then.
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  Speaker 3: Dawson got in touch and it was like, do you
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  Speaker 3: fancy covering a few shows for us?
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  Speaker 2: I was like, yes, I do, and that was that
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  Speaker 2: was the start of it.
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  Speaker 3: But before before joining Berry, like, I work in like
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  Speaker 3: production music, so I do a lot of library sync
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  Speaker 3: TV type stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I was doing that. I'm playing wedding gigs, so that
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  Speaker 2: was my that was my that was my job.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. So it wasn't like you were in like some
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  Speaker 1: big metal band or whatever in the UK like you were.
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  Speaker 1: You're just doing your music thing in an entirely different
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  Speaker 1: kind of industry of music completely.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, me and Dawson had been kind of whenever
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  Speaker 3: he was back and were available. We've been jamming for
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  Speaker 3: a few years and just writing songs just for the
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  Speaker 3: fun of it. And then this, Yeah, the stars aligned
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  Speaker 3: as it was to give us this opportunity, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: glad I wasn't a fly on the wall when there
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  Speaker 3: was the conversation of I've got a friend who can
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  Speaker 3: sing because I can't much, and that was that.
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  Speaker 2: So I've just I would have.
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  Speaker 3: Cringed that it like I'm so glad it happened and
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  Speaker 3: that they put the trust in me and in it.
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  Speaker 1: There are a number of like kind of music production
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  Speaker 1: people for like you know, commercial production that we've interviewed
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  Speaker 1: that are you know, like kind of their passion is
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  Speaker 1: alternative music or heavy music or whatever it might be.
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  Speaker 1: But they're like full time day gig is yeah, making
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  Speaker 1: music for commercials or whatever it might be. And so
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  Speaker 1: you're definitely not the only one out there that is
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  Speaker 1: doing heavy music and also was doing and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you're doing this still or not, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: also doing some sort of music production for commercial kind
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  Speaker 1: of type of music.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's very cool. I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure who that is, but that's that's sick
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  Speaker 3: to know that that's a thing. It's it's a really
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  Speaker 3: cool kind of I find it a really nice insight
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  Speaker 3: into constantly being exposed to loads of different kinds of
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  Speaker 3: music that I wouldn't normally even consider listening to. And
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  Speaker 3: in that you find little production techniques and you'll find
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  Speaker 3: little ideas, and that there's like transferable things between genres
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  Speaker 3: and like son craft seems to be universal.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel like the more you're doing it, the
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  Speaker 2: better you get it.
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  Speaker 3: So it's I've been afforded a very cool opportunity to
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  Speaker 3: be continuously exposed to more and more and to be
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  Speaker 3: kind of forced to improve and wherever I can. I'll
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  Speaker 3: pull this over into like what we do when we're
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  Speaker 3: creating as well.
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  Speaker 4: Do you do you have an example of something that's
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  Speaker 4: kind of maybe a strange thing you picked up in
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  Speaker 4: that in that part of the music world that you're
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  Speaker 4: using in the band.
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  Speaker 2: Well, a lot of it is just general layering and instruments.
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  Speaker 3: So the sound selection and trying to find the right
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  Speaker 3: sound for a certain thing is I always thought there
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  Speaker 3: was some magic sauce for it, and there might be
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  Speaker 3: for other people, but for me, it's just kind of
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  Speaker 3: staring at the screen for hours and like flicking through
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  Speaker 3: ideas and changing things and then removing things. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: just the process of being patient, like trying to find
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  Speaker 3: those things that like fill gaps, so knowing where actually
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  Speaker 3: we should take things out of this section. So like
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  Speaker 3: I suppose, not so much weird, but just yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: an interesting process to get to that endpoint.
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  Speaker 4: The part about that part of the job that's always
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  Speaker 4: confused me. Is I feel like I would just be
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  Speaker 4: completely hindered or crippled by the amount of choice you
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  Speaker 4: have now, you know. I mean it's if it's thirty
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  Speaker 4: years ago, it's a kind of a different story. But
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  Speaker 4: today there's so much choice in every single aspect that
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know if I could make a decision,
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  Speaker 4: I would just be constantly questioning myself if I made
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  Speaker 4: the right one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is definitely a thing that is one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and they're the kind of moments that.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's it's great to have.
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  Speaker 3: It's a really like inclusive environment where we all we
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  Speaker 3: all chip in and we all have ideas and we're
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  Speaker 3: back and forth, and you know, there's there's there's agreements,
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  Speaker 3: and there's there's disagreements, and but it's always in service
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  Speaker 3: of the song. So like we'll get to a point
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  Speaker 3: I might spend like half a day trying to do
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  Speaker 3: an idea or something, and I'll be like, I've got
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  Speaker 3: no idea if this is good or it's terrible, So
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  Speaker 3: I'll put it in the group and then you've kind
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  Speaker 3: of even if it's a little bit right, you've got
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  Speaker 3: like a kickoff point to then take that idea to
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  Speaker 3: the next step.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 3: And it's so easy to just be like, well, I
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  Speaker 3: love this library, so I'm just going to buy this
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  Speaker 3: library and then use it on everything. It's so you
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  Speaker 3: can get that kind of choice paralysis that you've got
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  Speaker 3: too much, you've got too many options.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see that.
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  Speaker 1: I get that. Is there any like music production stuff
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  Speaker 1: that you've done, you know, commercially that maybe we would recognize,
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  Speaker 1: like if you ever, like, has any of your music
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  Speaker 1: been in like some big commercial or movie or whatever
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  Speaker 1: it might be.
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  Speaker 3: There is definitely one, And I can't remember what the
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  Speaker 3: show's called now, But a lot of the time will
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  Speaker 3: kind of write the ideas, they'll get signed off, and
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  Speaker 3: they'll they'll go off and they'll be delivered to clients
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  Speaker 3: and you never really know where it's going. When I
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  Speaker 3: first started, me and my friend Jamie, who have been
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  Speaker 3: doing it together for years now, our first placements were
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  Speaker 3: on like Sky TV for like a Formula one thing,
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  Speaker 3: and there were one for like advertising some Sky movies
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  Speaker 3: back in like twenty eighteen or something like that. We
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  Speaker 3: knew about those ones, but a lot of it kind
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  Speaker 3: of goes off and lives in the world. But I
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  Speaker 3: found this one, and for the life of me, I
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  Speaker 3: cannot remember what the program's called, but it was on
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  Speaker 3: It was on Hulu and it was the guy Garfield
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  Speaker 3: who played Spider Man. It were a series that he
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  Speaker 3: was in and it was in one of those episodes
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  Speaker 3: and I don't I don't know what scene it was,
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  Speaker 3: but it just came up on this little credit that
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  Speaker 3: it had appeared.
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  Speaker 2: That's the only thing I know.
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  Speaker 1: So that's how you found out that it was in
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  Speaker 1: that show? Was that you just like saw it in
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  Speaker 1: the credits.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just on this site. I can't remember.
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  Speaker 3: We sent me a Lincoln It's like, oh, yeah, this
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  Speaker 3: is on here, and I think there's a there's a
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  Speaker 3: track that me and Me and Jamie did as well,
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  Speaker 3: which he was the main the main one on it.
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  Speaker 3: That was the recent one of the theme tunes for
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  Speaker 3: one of the wrestlers for the ww that Let's Go
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  Speaker 3: Down on Netflix. So it's currently being used as one
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  Speaker 3: of them. So they're that that's a couple of things.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure that they're out there doing doing plenty of stuff,
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  Speaker 3: but we just I don't ever really know where it lives.
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  Speaker 3: So we just kind of write it and then let
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  Speaker 3: it go into the ether.
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  Speaker 1: And so there must be things where like you're you're
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  Speaker 1: just watching a show or whatever, and then all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden you're like, wait, I wrote that, Like that's
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  Speaker 1: is that a thing that ever happens?
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  Speaker 3: Not yet, No, yeah, I don't really watch TV, which
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  Speaker 3: is funny, but but it will happen at some point.
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  Speaker 3: I hope it will happen and I'll put it out
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  Speaker 3: into the universe. I want to do something that ends
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  Speaker 3: up on UFC, Like that's my that's my ultimate kind
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  Speaker 3: of goal for production music. But hopefully i'll kind of
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  Speaker 3: hear it. I'll be watching something with pleasantly surprised one day.
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  Speaker 4: You're on the wrong podcast. If you want to get
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  Speaker 4: if you want to get some music on the UFC,
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  Speaker 4: I mind, you gotta you gotta go to Joe Rogan.
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  Speaker 2: I'm good here, I'm good here.
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  Speaker 4: Well, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about how you got uh yeah, just
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  Speaker 1: like kind of mentioned a little bit about how you
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: got involved with Barry Tomorrow where it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you sort of one of those things where you know
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  Speaker 1: a guy that you know sort of thing, and but
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  Speaker 1: it's just to me, it's just really interesting, like what
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  Speaker 1: what is it? Or maybe what's the story around? Like
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  Speaker 1: they must have first heard you like sing or something
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  Speaker 1: and they're like we need that guy, like or I'm
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  Speaker 1: just curious, like what's the specific story of like their
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  Speaker 1: reasoning of like let's bring let's bring Tom on.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Dawson had the idea obviously when they were when
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  Speaker 3: they went down. Part of me sorry, when when Jason
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  Speaker 3: left two to bring I suppose not just like a
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  Speaker 3: replacement or something that was seen as direct replacement, but
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  Speaker 3: as like a vocalist with keyboard and a guitar resseparately
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  Speaker 3: maybe and just know it adds a new dynamic to it,
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  Speaker 3: I suppose. But they were originally just just gonna kind
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  Speaker 3: of fulfill the dates that they had booked in and
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  Speaker 3: then and then call it a day.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, Dawson literally.
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  Speaker 3: Called me and it was like, do you want to
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  Speaker 3: play slam dunk and then do these gigs with us?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, And then we started writing a few ideas and
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden it's like, well, actually, this is
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  Speaker 3: this is kind of cool, so that let's let's give
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  Speaker 3: this a go and see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: And we ended up going down to London and meeting
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  Speaker 2: with a.
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  Speaker 3: Label, which which is like it's like one of them
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  Speaker 3: film scenes. In my head, it was like, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, thirty odd, I've given up any any aspiration
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  Speaker 3: of being like a successful commercial musician and I'm just
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  Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna write my music and I'm gonna play my
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  Speaker 3: weddings and it's cool.
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy with that.
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  Speaker 3: I get to do music as a day job. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm lucky, very lucky in that sense. Well yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but then to kind of have this out of the
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  Speaker 3: blue and they say, oh yeah, you're gonna come down
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  Speaker 3: to London, like the Sony headquarters in London, and we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have a meeting with a label and we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: carry on. It was just like one of those almost
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  Speaker 3: famous film like it were like a proper scene, like Wow,
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  Speaker 3: this is actually happening. And then from that point I
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  Speaker 3: may have I may have skipped over. We had an audition,
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  Speaker 3: which was the most terrifying thing I've ever done in
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  Speaker 3: my life. So I'm the mate who can sing and
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  Speaker 3: it seemed like an Instagram video I think. And then
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  Speaker 3: we went down to blackness in Southampton and me only
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  Speaker 3: no indorse and and knowing none of the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the band, and then you just got a kind of
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  Speaker 3: all right, see what happens, Like there's some some boots
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  Speaker 3: to fill, and it's like a level that I've never
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  Speaker 3: really done before.
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  Speaker 2: And it didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Actually start at that well, like it couldn't really hear myself,
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  Speaker 3: and it was like, this is feeling a little bit weird.
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  Speaker 3: And then we just kind of stopped playing and I
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: was like, right, I'm just gonna sing at you, and
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  Speaker 3: I just did that, and we just kind of hashed
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  Speaker 3: out the way to sing different sections and what to do,
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: and you know, you don't have to sound like him,
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  Speaker 3: you do your own thing and do a super supportive
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, that's that's kind how it's how it all started.
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  Speaker 3: And then we played slam Dunk, which was terrifying because nobody,
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  Speaker 3: I suppose at that point as well, no one knew
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  Speaker 3: who the replacements were or replacement like they said, there
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: was nothing that went out about what was happening, so
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  Speaker 3: we kind of went on blind and they're all kinds
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: of like on Twitter, it's like, oh, it's Charlie Simpson
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  Speaker 3: or it's this person.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, nah, nothing like that.
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  Speaker 4: It's the wedding singer.
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  Speaker 2: You know it's.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, go On was part of that
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  Speaker 4: part of that time, you know, with the audition and
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  Speaker 4: then also a slam dug just kind of like proven
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  Speaker 4: that you could be a good hang too.
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  Speaker 3: I think, I think definitely it's definitely part of it.
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  Speaker 3: I think that we'd only had probably two we had
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  Speaker 3: a couple of rehearsal sessions prior to to slam Dunk,
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  Speaker 3: and that was still very much like getting to know
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: each other. And I was filled with like insane anxiety
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  Speaker 3: about it, like I'm gonna get up there, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: forget the words and my voice and going all that.
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  Speaker 2: Every I played out every single scenario in my head.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it's the worst. It's such a such an anxious feeling.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just feeling it for you, even though it's four
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: years past, five years past.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: But but then after those shows went down really well,
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  Speaker 3: it was super positive. We had a we had like
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: a little run of shows afterwards, and and that were
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: like the start of really getting to know each other.
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  Speaker 3: And then we had we had like the festival season
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: the year after, and then we had the August Burns
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: Red too, which like five weeks and obviously the right
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: in the album between that and the singles, so we
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: had that was all a process of like getting really
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: kind of comfortable with each other and getting to know
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  Speaker 3: each other and becoming friends. Obviously we Dawson, we've been
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: friends for you know, twenty years, so vice right.
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  Speaker 1: So you you now have, well the new album's about
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  Speaker 1: to come out, but your your two albums in now
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  Speaker 1: with the band, and again it sounds like you never
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  Speaker 1: really had, at least with a band, you had never
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  Speaker 1: done like any sort of music production and touring and
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: all of that. So as somebody who does production, you
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: know you were doing production as you as your job
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  Speaker 1: is your daytime job. What was it like to then
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: go into another person's studio and like have them produce
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  Speaker 1: music for you. I don't know. It just feels like
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  Speaker 1: one of those things where it's like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: like a one football player coming in or like one
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: quarterback coming in and it's like we're we're like are
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: we in competition?
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  Speaker 2: Here?
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  Speaker 1: Are we trying to help each other out? I don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. What was it one of those things
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: where it's just it felt like a little bit of
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like awkward. Did it feel really natural?
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  Speaker 1: What was that like to have somebody else like produce
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  Speaker 1: music that you were creating?
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  Speaker 2: Very cool question, it was.
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  Speaker 3: I was kind of like fanboy starstruck because the first
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: person that we did that with is Dan Weller from
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  Speaker 3: Sixth and Sixth, one of my favorite bands growing up.
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  Speaker 3: So to get to work with him for I mean
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  Speaker 3: the first two singles to begin with, was insanely intimidating.
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  Speaker 2: We're gone to this like huge studio and Otterhead that's.
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  Speaker 3: In Rugby, like a couple of hours from it, like
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: a really cool residential place where like an hourhouse and
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: like land and it's great.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: It's a great studio.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: And yeah, just because we took not fully formed ideas,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: but we had wed like demos that were built in
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: my studio here and that would pass between and would
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: make sure that we're kind of happy how it was
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: roughly structured.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: So we went. So we went with a.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Bunch of ideas that then with Dan and all of
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: us we just kind of pulled everything apart and put
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: it back together and started retracking and front. From that
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: point it just felt like this amazing collaborative experience. I
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: think I think my biggest anxiety would have been that
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: what I was doing wasn't wasn't to a level that
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: was high enough. Of course, it had been such a
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: big jump from one thing to the other. Whereas I
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: found the case was it was just kind of applying
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: the same sort of processes of writing and stripping stuff
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: back and sound selection, but then getting to see you know,
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: like a top tier producer who have respected for loads
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: of years as a guitarist and a musician, just seeing
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: how he works it and then like having this back
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: and forth and just chatting and yeah, it was a
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: super cool experience to do with the two singles like that,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: and then we had an entire month to do the.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Album in the studio with him as well.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: So yeah, a month is a long time. It's that's
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: Sony money, then, is what you're saying. That's where Sony gets.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I got that got us. It was Yeah,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: that was an amazing experience. Really kind of helped me
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: and Ed feel way more comfortable having that time to
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: kind of go back and forth with things and and
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: spend time.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Sure, is that one of those things when you're writing,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: especially lyrics, you know, knowing that you're singing and then
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I'm forgetting Yeah you said ed sorry Daniel. With him
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: singing as well, is it like one of those things
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: where he's primarily writing lyrics or does he like want
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: your input since you're also going to be singing a
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: lot of those lyrics as well. I'm just curious, like
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: how the how you all kind of manage the lyric
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: creation process knowing that you both are singing.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was actually super collaborative as well, Like right
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: right from the start, like that, Dan's got a like
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: a really good sensibility when it comes to melodies and
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: cadences and kind of rhythms and lyrics, and so I
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: can sometimes go too much like get off point, but
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: like Dan's really got a really good focus on like
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: and I suppose like a quality control and like the
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: right kind of melodies and you know, ideas about lyrics,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: and we'll just back and forth and again it's just
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: in service to getting whatever that that right idea is
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: at the end, at the end of the trail. So
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: right from the off, you know, we were in the
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: studio and he was helping me on the singing part lyrics,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: and we were going through like sections screaming screaming parts
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: and looking at rhythms and and I kind of help
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: contribute where I.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Could in that as well.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: So it's it felt genuinely collaborative, and I think it
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: was it was a shared goal with all of us
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: that we just wanted the thing at the end to
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: be like the best it possibly could be.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Well, I would say that, you know, since you've joined
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: the band, and not to not to dog on anyone
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: else by any means, but the band has really taken
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: a step forward. I would say, since you've joined, and
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: I know you're probably not gonna want to take credit
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: for that because you're a brit that's all right. But
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: from from my perspective and I think most people's perspective
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: that that's the case. Bury Tomorrow has only had a
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: better release every single time that the new albums come out,
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: and so far from the songs we've heard, this is
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: the exact same, right, I mean, this, this new album
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: is going to be amazing.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Well, well, thank you very much. That's that's very that's
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: very kind.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I think it's difficult from the inside to tell if
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: it's like how much of a step forwards happening, especially
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: being that mind and edge experience like goes to twenty
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: twenty one, so we're not really aware of what it
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: was like before, but it's it's definitely felt like a
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: progression all the way through, and you know, for everybody
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: that's you know, stuck with us, with me and head
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: there and it's still listening, like, thank you so much,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: and thank you guys for for saying for saying that,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: like it means a lot, and you can you kind
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: of get lost in like trying to get the next.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Thing complete, the next thing, and you don't always look
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: back at how that is.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: But it's nice to see that the perception is that
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: it's moving forward from an outside point of view as well,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: because it's sometimes difficult to have a perspective on those
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: things when you're so focused on the project.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: M To me, it feels like there's a lot more
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: focus on dynamics, and there is a lot more focus
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: on melody and extremely strange rhythms that are especially vocally,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: that are very very fun and interesting and keep you
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: engaged for a longer period of time. It doesn't feel
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: like it doesn't feel like you know, metal music of
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: the past. It feels like it's it's trying to go forward,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: and not just for you guys, but also for kind
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: of like the scene as a whole. I would say,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: you know, because this is a genre that gets stale
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: pretty quick, right, But if you add enough of those
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: nice little flourishes that create that interesting, interesting kind of
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: taste along the way, it keeps it keeps things fresh
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: and engaging and enjoyable to listen to a longer period
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: of time. And so I have to commend you for that,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: and I have to thank you. But I am curious
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: when you are in the studio and you are thinking,
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: all right, this needs just a little bit extra, This
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: needs a little bit of something to just give it
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: that seasoning that's going to make it memorable or more
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: dynamic or more rhythmically interesting. How does that go down?
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Is it is it something where it is just totally
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: a collaborative thing, or is there like, is there someone
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: in the band maybe it's you that has that generally
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: comes up with like a really cool melodic part, or
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: that has that is kind of like that like last
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: mile kind of kind of thinker.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, again, that's that's a really good question, and it
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: tends to be like I suppose different depending what I
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: like on the song or you know, way we are
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: in the process, Like let's let Go is probably quite
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: a good example that we did.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I think so many versions of that chorus.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: So the original chorus was a completely I think it
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: was a I think it wasn't as halftime. It was
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: a completely different chord sequence, and it was a different
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: melody as well.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: But there was something like this, this just is not right,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: and I don't know.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: What what we can do to make it right. So
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: I tried a bunch of different melodies, and you know,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: we tried some different rhythms and slightly different chord sequences,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: but nothing seemed to really hit it.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: And I think in the end, Dave sent me this
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: pop song that he really liked. And I don't know
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: what it was in that pop song.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: If it were like just the starting two chords or
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: like a rhythm within it, but or like that's cool.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: And I remember getting like because all the guitars had
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: actually been recorded at this point, so I remember just
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: like grabbing the actual guitars and just moving them like
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: lego blocks and like changing changing the shape of the
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: like the the order of the chords, if you like,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: and then taking the vocal melody and just chopping little
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: bits out of it and then actually get into them
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: last because it was completely different at the start. So
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: that's one example of it. But that took a few
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: visits to the studio they kind of get it, and coincidentally,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: then because the actual guitar had been recorded, it completely
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: changed the riffing for the chorus. So it ended up
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: reordering the riff into this really interesting thing that we
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: would have probably not thought of in any other case.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Of course we'd written it in a completely different context.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: It's just now a kreeing to me that when especially now,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: maybe it was different back during kind of like analog
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: type of years, but it's occurring to me now that
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: when you're recording, whether it's a vocal, a drum track, guitars,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: what you're actually recording is you're trying to get a
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: snapshot of something that then you can like copy and
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: paste or like you mentioned, like you're kind of reordering
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: different lego blocks and configurations. That like has never occurred
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: to me before in terms of like the recording process
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and everything. That that's like, that's actually what you're doing.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: You're not trying to just like and again like I
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: knew that, like as a band, like you're not just
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: recording like straight through, and it usually typically like in
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: a room together. I mean, there are I guess some
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: bands that will be in a room together and they'll
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: record live, but generally like you, in my mind, I
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: was like, wait, you're just like you're probably just playing
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: the whole guitar part throughout the entire song, Like you're
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: playing the whole song just one guitar or whatever, and
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: you're just like trying to get it until you like
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: nail that part or you're trying to nail like the
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: take or whatever of it. Now I'm realizing like, actually,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: you know, you're breaking it down even farther than that,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: so you're just getting all of these little these like
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: certain kind of blocks like you mentioned that you can
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: then just rotate around on a timeline. But yeah, anyway,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I know that's not a question, but I'm just like
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: it's now dawning on me that no.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: No, it's really it's a really cool part of the
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: process that when you're doing it on that scale of
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: an album, it's like the actual undertaking of the feat
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: especially like with Dan and what with cal Bound on
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: the latest record, as well. Is it's like we'll do
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: a line thirty times sometimes and it's like, yeah, I
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: like it, but that word there, or like, oh, shall
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: put a little bit of distortion on that bit of
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: a voice there, or like is the guitar part really crunched?
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Like are we hitting it right on the beat in
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: that section?
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: So it's like like a real attention to detail that
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: every that every phrase is the best that it.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Can be at the time of recording it.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: M yeah, do you feel that? Do you feel like
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: the scene is successful right now? In the UK? Is
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: is it easy to tour? Is it easy to you know,
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: and have a lot of people come to your shows
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: and stuff like that? Or have things have things changed
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: in recent years?
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, again my experiences is only a few years.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: But I think we've been really kind of lucky to
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: see a continuous growth in our in our time in
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: the band so far, obviously doing Roundhouse last year, which
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: was the biggest UK headliner that we'd ever done, and
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: this November going too Victoria Warehouse, which is another step
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: up to like three and a half thousand in a room.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Which is wow, which is ridiculous.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I remember we played the Academy in Manchester last time,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: and I remember I remember being there the year before
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: to watch Thrice and like Thrice one of my favorite
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: bands of all time, and I remember watching it being
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: like I cannot believe that we're going to play.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: This and then to get to do it. So I
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: think for that scene, the scene, like Manchester.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Has always been amazing for us, like it's been the
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: first one to sell out every time, and the same
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: with with with every market in the UK.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I think we've been very lucky.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: It's it's a small place, so there's not that many
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: places you can that you can you can do before
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: you branch off out into into your sure, right, Yeah.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like, especially a band like Bring Me
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: the Horizon, does a band like that, a UK band
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: like that over the last ten years, does it feel
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: like one of those sort of like a rising tide
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: raises all ships kind of thing where like because of
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: their success and obviously you guys don't sound exactly like
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: them or anything, but you know, I would say more
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: or less kind of the same heavy music scene. Is
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: it one of those things where yeah, that just because
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: of their success, it raises the awareness that like, wait,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: there's a whole other music scene like this in the UK,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: and do you feel like you're maybe one of those
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: bands that then also gets recognized because of the success
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: of a big band like them, or like, I know,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Loathe's really popping off right now in the UK, and
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know, does it feel like one of those
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: sort of things where you know, the massive success that
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: brings me their hids and has had, does that also
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: raise the success you think for bands like You're yours.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it can only be a net positive.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Really is like the bigger they get, like you said that,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: the more awareness more people having in the wider music genres,
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: that that kind of it brings attention to it, and
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: you know, it's it's it's definitely what's good for them
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: can definitely be good for us.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Like the more the more eyes.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: That we have on on us, that the better for
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: our progression, I suppose. And I feel like the music
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: scene generally and it is just really open minded to
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: a lot of different styles at the minute. There's there's
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: a lot of room for like crossovers and you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: you've seen a lot of bands like experimenting with different
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: genres and you know, it's it's it's a very exciting
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: time to be making music, and it's pushing boundaries in
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: a really kind of accepting way. And you know, if
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: if the song is good, it's like, that's the first thing.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: If it if it if it paints outside the lines
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: a little bit, then it's probably quite exciting.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: So it's yeah, it's the quality of the music.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Is primary, I think, and you know it's I've gone
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: a little bit off topic with what you said then,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: but but my short answer is yes, I believe that
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: it is good for us.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: All.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: I'm curious where where do you get your pipes from?
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Those are some Those are some good vocals. Man, I'm
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: not gonna lie. I'm a little jealous. I love listening
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: to it, and I'm curious. You know, it doesn't seem
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: like it fits kind of the mold of what you
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: generally hear in the heavy music scene when it comes
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: to cleans especially, So what would you say? What would
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: you say you've kind of like modeled yourself after who
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: I should say.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Like number one vocal and it's probably not influenced, but
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: just inspiration is Tim McGrath from Rise Against I remember
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: having revolutions per minute on my CD Walkman on the
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: way to college, and I just just running it over
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: and over again.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I'm like, how does somebody sound that good?
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: It was like outrageous to me, just the it were
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: the effortless like this and his voice and like flipping
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: between and his scream was so good.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: And it took me a lot of years.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: I could do no unclean vocals like I tried, but
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: I just never really found that technique without in myself
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: for a long time.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: So he was definitely an inspiration.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: And I was a big emo kid, so like I
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: was massively into like well take him Back Sunday and
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: the used and dashboard confessional and all sorts of stuff
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I was in one hundred percent.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of that world that is is
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: responsible for my inspirations.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Well, it sort of makes sense. I definitely can hear
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: some of those influences, and I think just beyond even
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: your vocals, like I think just from like a guitar
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: tone standpoint, and even Dan's screaming for And I've told
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Colin this a little bit, but like it reminds me
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: a lot more of like like mid two thousands metalcore
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: than some of the newer stuff that you're hearing now,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: just from like the production value, the tone, like it
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: almost seems like it's kind of honoring that past, or
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: like that era of like almost twenty years ago of metalcore.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like, is that like a thought that
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: you all have when when it comes to writing and
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: recording and producing your music, or or or is it
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: sort of just coincidence that it kind of sounds at
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: least for me, it sounds like that.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: No, that's that's cool. It's I don't think it's necessarily conscious.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: I mean I can't I can't speak for everybody. I
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: don't think it's necessarily conscious thing to try and honor that.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: It's very cool that you feel like we do, and
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: it's it's always been a there's a byproduct of like
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: maintaining that that Bary Tomorrow sound in its essence while
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: kind of branching out and trying new ideas and you know,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: refining our songs and really trying to push forward in
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: every way we creatively can. But if for keeping that
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: essence of it, I mean, everything comes back around. So
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: that's not bad. That's not a bad thing.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: True. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's I think that's
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: absolutely right. It's it's gonna it's gonna come back around.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: But it has that modern flair, that modern influence that
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: that that does give it just enough nuance difference, right,
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: which is a benefit I think all the way through.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Thank you another thing you're just around with the new
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: album in particular, you know the so I think the
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: album comes out in a couple of months, folly when
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: people are able to like first hear it in its entirety.
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  Speaker 1: What's something that you're excited for them to first hear?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I think there's the album Closer is I'm very
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: excited from say, the album Closer, it's it's it's a
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  Speaker 3: really different track for us. It's way more kind of
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  Speaker 3: it's heavy, but it's got a lot, quite a lot
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  Speaker 3: of theory elements in it, and they're like a real big,
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  Speaker 3: kind of overlapping vocal song sung outro.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm excited kind of like a big is it
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  Speaker 4: kind of like a big build up kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Song kind kind of Yeah, it's it is.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it is heavy from the start, but it
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  Speaker 3: does it does definitely have that building quality to it,
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  Speaker 3: and then there's a there's a mid one that's like
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  Speaker 3: totally unlike anything I think we've we've tried so far.
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  Speaker 4: It's polka music, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you know it.
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  Speaker 3: There's just a jazz interlude for five minutes the.
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  Speaker 1: SCA.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we'll live that down the scar rendition
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  Speaker 3: of choke that's in the middle of the album.
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  Speaker 1: I will say, I know, I've never been a musician.
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  Speaker 1: I do think that, especially in like the heavy music realm,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: every closer needs to be a build up song. That's
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: my own person I agree. I love if you get
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  Speaker 1: a good album that you know, just has like banger
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  Speaker 1: after banger and then the closer is just a build
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  Speaker 1: up song. You got me hooked every time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, those are like the legendary albums in my opinion.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I feel like the one that builds and
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  Speaker 3: gives you that kind of big crescendo and pay off
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  Speaker 3: at the end is like it's a motivation to go
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  Speaker 3: back to track one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, again, Yeah, because you have to go back
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  Speaker 4: through that journey again, you know, otherwise that big build
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  Speaker 4: up at the end doesn't really mean anything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, very true. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, like under Oath has been amazing at that. I
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: think it's part of the reason why under oath is normal.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Gene has done that really well. Yeah, for sure, I'm
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: with you. Well you got any more questions Colin about
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: the new album?
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm sure more will come as more songs
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: come out, but.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Not long now, not long now.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: I'm it's right to be out there, and I hope
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: people enjoy what we've what we've made.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're excited, we're in fact. What's really funny is
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I think it was me sometime last week when we
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: officially got this interviewed scheduled, and a few days later,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: one of our friends I want to call in a
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: nice friends texted our group chat a song that was
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: a very Tomorrow song. I think it was one of
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: the new ones. And he had no idea that we had, like,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: you know, scheduled this or whatever. And I was like,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: it was like, hey, we're interviewing them on Friday, by
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: the way, that's cool. So he was our I mean,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: and I don't think he had ever heard your guys'
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: band before, and so he was like really stoked about it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: That's why he texted us. He's like, hey, have you
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: all heard this like band Burry Tomorrow and have you
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: heard this new song is incredible and it's like, yeah,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: we're going to talk to them.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: On I love every everything about that, Like from point
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: it was well to know that that kind of thing
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: is he's happening organically, that people are just finding us.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: That's that's sick.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: I will say, I think that the exposure of Barry
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Tomorrow in the US is significantly lower than I think
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: it should be, because you guys are pretty massive. I mean,
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: like it's you should be on the tongue of just
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: about everybody's who's into the scene. And I'm sure in
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: the UK that's definitely the way it is. But I
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: think that there's a lot to catch on here and
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: I think this album is gonna do it.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: No, thank you very much. We hop so we're out here.
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  Speaker 3: We're out there at the end of next week, so
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: we're hoping to to find a few more people to
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: like us.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: Hearts and minds.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: That's the one.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Steal those hearts and minds.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. How many How many dates are are you guys doing.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Our I think it's around twenty a little bit more.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: We're out for a full months, so it's around twenty
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: two twenty two.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I think it's just.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: Enough time to get diabetes have fun.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Wait have you? I'm sure you've toured already now at
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: least once in the US, right, yeah, we did.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: We did one.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: In like the thing like April of twenty three, and
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: then we came back for a real short run with
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Cane Hill around the.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Blue Ridge Festival that didn't happen.
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  Speaker 3: And then we came back not that long ago to
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: do like a North American run.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Electric Collboy, which was insane. That was so cool. Oh yeah.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: So so now that you've been I'm sure you've played
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: now some shows in the American South. I always have
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: to ask anybody from like Britain or Australia, you know,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: somewhere that's not in America, because to me, the American
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: South feels like the most America of America. Do you
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: do you do you get that impression?
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: The most American of America.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: It's like like it doesn't like when you think of
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: like like like American caricatures. It's the South. It's so stereotypical.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: It's got to be right.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's because it's the most ridiculous.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: But I do love it down there. To be fair,
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: every time we pass the book is I'm like, can
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: we please stop.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I was about to say, you have to go to
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: a bus Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think the first time we went there, we came
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: back with like fifteen bass pro shot parts each we
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: we went hot on the dream.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: We're gonna buy everything.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: You gotta love it.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well, Colin and I aren't from the South
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: in America, and so anytime we do go down south,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: we we always have to stop at a BUCkies too.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: And Colin especially like those pulled pork sandwiches.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: Pulled pork sandwiches and BUCkies. But what else I'm also
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: a sucker for in the South is boiled peanuts at
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: a gas station. Oh, section, Oh, you gotta try it.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: It's uh, it's so weird. It feels like it shouldn't work,
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: but it does. I'm boiled peanuts. They'll have them like
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: this little container just warmed all day long in a
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: gas station and you can just go scoob yourself some
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: boiled peanuts. It's I don't know, it's great.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna I'm gonna try it, and I'll let
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: you know where Where are you? Where are you guys based?
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I live in Minnesota, in Minneapolis.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm in South Dakota in the middle of
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: absolutely nowhere.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Well, if you know, if you're not too far from
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: one of our days and you fancy come and just
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: let us know and we'll we'll get.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, are you guy? Let me let me check
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: really quick. Are you guys playing in Minneapolis at all
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: or somewhere near?
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: I think we saw them.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: You are actually April twelfth, You guys are going to
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: play at the Skyway Theater Skyway.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Wow?
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Well sweet?
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: So so yeah, I'll be I'll be around, I can,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I can hang out perfect.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's do let's do that. It'd be good
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: to catch up in person.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. So yeah,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know what what day of the week that is,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: but we can make it. I think that's a Saturday.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: It's a Saturday. I might be able to make it
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: as well. It's a five hour trip for me, but
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: that's okay. That's a short drive in America.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's a Saturday, because I
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: think the Saturday before is the fifth, so it's got
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: to be a Saturday.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Your short drive, your short drive is literally two thirds
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: of our country.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: You can go from London to Scotland.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: To multiple to the North.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: I could go to the North, is what you're saying.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: You could well, tom Thank you, thank you so much
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: for chatting more about Barry tomorrow. We're just super stoked
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: about the new album. We truly are, and hopefully here
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: in a few weeks we'll be able to see you
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: in person and and uh watch you guys play some
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: of the new songs.
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  Speaker 4: Howay God
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  Speaker 2: H