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DIDDY'S $10 MILLION DOLLAR DEFENSE STARTS TODAY, JURORS IN FEAR · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Diddy's ten million dollars defense starts today this as we
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Speaker 2: learn the jury is in fear of sitting on the
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Speaker 2: Ditty trial. I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank
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Speaker 2: you for being with us.
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Speaker 3: Cassie Ventura is set to take the stand, with prosecutors
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Speaker 3: expected to highlight a twenty sixteen hotel assault caught on video.
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Speaker 2: The trial of Sean Combs started early this morning in
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Speaker 2: a Manhattan courtroom, a joining men all star panel to
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Speaker 2: make sense of what we know right now. Straight out
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Speaker 2: to Lauren Conlin, joining US co host Pop Crime TV. Lauren,
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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. Tell me about what happened.
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Speaker 2: First thing this morning.
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Speaker 4: Cork began this morning with Diddy asking the judge for
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Speaker 4: more water or The judge said something like do you
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Speaker 4: have enough water? And he said, could I have some
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Speaker 4: Warrior on her? Diddy appeared to be wearing a light
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Speaker 4: cream colored sweater, which I thought was a great choice
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Speaker 4: for a defendant.
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Speaker 1: He had his glasses on.
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Speaker 4: He was looking through some paperwork at the beginning of
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Speaker 4: the morning, and he would turn around to smile at
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Speaker 4: his mom and wave to his family who were in
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Speaker 4: the front row. He gave a thumbs up at one point.
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Speaker 4: I actually saw Janis Colmes, his mother in the lobby
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Speaker 4: this morning, and she was wearing an all black suit
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Speaker 4: a black purse, and she looked like she was going
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Speaker 4: to a funeral. To be honest, I also want to
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Speaker 4: point out that when the jury walked in, Diddy did
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Speaker 4: not take his eyes off of them.
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Speaker 1: He watched their every move.
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Speaker 2: This as we are learning, the jury is actually in fear.
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Speaker 2: In fact, the judge was afraid to impanel a jury
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Speaker 2: on Friday, thinking they would back out with.
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Speaker 1: Cold feet over the weekend. Listen.
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Speaker 5: The original plan was for jury selection to be completed
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Speaker 5: on Friday, but Ditty's lawyers for a delay, raising concerns
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Speaker 5: more jurors would get cold feet. Between Friday and Monday,
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Speaker 5: the court received an email from one potential juror asking
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Speaker 5: to be left off the panel for issues of personal
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Speaker 5: well being. According to the Combs Team, prosecutors strongly opposed
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Speaker 5: the delay. Judge on Run's Supermanian agreed with the defense.
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Speaker 2: Okay to Eric fattis, veteran trial lawyer joining me out
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Speaker 2: of the Denver, Colorado jurisdiction partner Varner Fattus elite legal
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Speaker 2: former prosecutor. That's not good when the jury is afraid
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Speaker 2: to be in the box. The jury box.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yikes. I mean, this is a high profile case.
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Speaker 6: There is a ton at stake, and Nancy I'm Cria
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Speaker 6: Wild called a judge, actually declined to give Diddy bond
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Speaker 6: because there were concerns that he was engaging in witness
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Speaker 6: tampering or witness intimidation. Those same concerns could translate to
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Speaker 6: this jury and it could cause them to get old
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Speaker 6: feed or otherwise be considering that when they're deciding the case,
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Speaker 6: which is obviously.
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Speaker 2: It wouldn't be the first time that a jury had
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Speaker 2: been harassed, put in fear, or tampered with.
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Speaker 1: Listen.
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Speaker 5: John Gotti earned the nickname Teflon Dawn after he was
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Speaker 5: acquitted in multiple trials, likely due to jury tampering and
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Speaker 5: witness intimidation. This seems to be confirmed when a juror
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Speaker 5: who helped to quit Gody in a racketeering case was
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Speaker 5: convicted of taking a bribe. Jimmy Hoffel was also charged
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Speaker 5: with unlawfully, wilfully and knowingly conspiring with six co conspirators
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Speaker 5: to influence members of a jury. He was accused of
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Speaker 5: offering ten thousand dollars to the families of two jurors
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Speaker 5: for an acquittal vote, and offering to get the police
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Speaker 5: husband of another juror a promotion. Clarence Darrow was in
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Speaker 5: the company of his chief investigator when the two men
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Speaker 5: were arrested for bribery. Darrow was defending brothers on bombing charges.
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Speaker 5: Police say Darrow's investigator passed four thousand dollars to a
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Speaker 5: prospective jury member for a not guilty vote.
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Speaker 2: You would have to be living under a rock in
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Speaker 2: a cave on the other side of the world not
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Speaker 2: to know that there are allegations that Sean Combs ordered
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Speaker 2: a hit our murder on Tupac Shaker Listen Dwayne Keethy.
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Speaker 7: D Davis claims credit for Tupac's murder on bet And
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Speaker 7: in his memoir, he says Puffy Combs wanted Knight and
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Speaker 7: Tupac's heads after their disc track hit them up. When
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Speaker 7: Davis offers to carry out the hits, Combs agrees to
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Speaker 7: pay him one million dollars. Davis Anderson, Terrence Brown, and
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Speaker 7: DeAndre Smith stake out the club where Shea Cour is performing,
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Speaker 7: but Tupac's a no show, driving down the strip, they
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Speaker 7: spot Night and Tupac stopped in traffic. Brown flips a
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Speaker 7: U turn in their white Cadillac. Davis passes Anderson the gun,
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Speaker 7: and Anderson leans over Smith to shoot Tupac.
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Speaker 8: Who wiped it?
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Speaker 9: Oh quick?
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Speaker 2: You know it's not who brought up the amount of
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Speaker 2: one dollars.
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Speaker 6: Heed Puffy Biggie ever involved in any of these conversations.
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Speaker 8: That you know, because it's always just.
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Speaker 2: This is all full you're doing straight out to Robert
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Speaker 2: Crispin joining US private investigator, former Federal Task Force officer USDJ,
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Speaker 2: also with Deea now at Crispin Special Investigations. Crispin, thank
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Speaker 2: you for being with us your state out in front
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Speaker 2: of Ditty's home there in Florida where it all started
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Speaker 2: with the bust, I want to hear how the neighbors
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Speaker 2: are taking today. But more important, you think if this
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Speaker 2: jury has seen the Cassie video and they all have
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Speaker 2: an opinion on it, you think they don't know about
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Speaker 2: the hit on Tupac's You cur.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's going to kind of tie it in, isn't it.
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Speaker 10: And they're going to wonder, like, boy, that's kind of interesting.
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Speaker 7: But you know, Nancy, I'm coming.
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Speaker 10: To you live out in front of Diddy's house here
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Speaker 10: in Star Island in Miami Beach. And if today is
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Speaker 10: any indication of what's going on in Diddy's world as
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Speaker 10: his trial starts, it's a dark, rainy day. The neighbors
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Speaker 10: are really happy that there's no more attention, there's no
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Speaker 10: more late parties, three four day benders, the drugs in
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Speaker 10: that white gay behind me. That's where the Feds went
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Speaker 10: in with their shirt shard. That's where the drugs came out.
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Speaker 10: That's where the electronic evidence came out. That's where everything
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Speaker 10: started to unfold for Diddy before he got indicted.
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Speaker 2: I just find it very difficult to believe that the
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Speaker 2: jury has seen the Cassie video already, which they're going
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Speaker 2: to see a trial anyway, that they don't know about
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Speaker 2: the hit on Tupac Shakur. Which gets to my point, Crispin,
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Speaker 2: that gurrrs one jurrr backed out and said he was
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Speaker 2: afraid for his own and his family's safety, got cold
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Speaker 2: feet and want it off the panel. And that's the
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Speaker 2: one that would speak out. Have you ever had a
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Speaker 2: case where gurrrs or witnesses were actually afraid?
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Speaker 8: Oh?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And that's a very real fear.
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Speaker 10: Because if he's fould guilty, revenge is best served on
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Speaker 10: a cold plate, and these people are gonna be looking
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Speaker 10: over their shoulder all the time. In drug cases in Miami,
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Speaker 10: same thing. You want to sit there and look a
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Speaker 10: drug lord in the eye and convict him when you
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Speaker 10: have a wife, kids. These are everyday people that get
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Speaker 10: jury subpoenas and end up sitting on these high profile cases.
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Speaker 10: And there's a lot at stake when you hit either
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Speaker 10: that guilty or that not guilty box on that jury form.
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Speaker 10: That's an issue and I would be afraid to.
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Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us a high profile PSYCHOANALYSTID of
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Speaker 2: the LA jurisdiction, author of deal Breaker. You can see
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Speaker 2: her currently on Peacock and find her at doctor Bethany
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Speaker 2: Marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany, I think that the jury
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Speaker 2: wants to do the right thing. I think in their
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Speaker 2: heart of hearts they want to serve on the jury. Yes,
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Speaker 2: they want to be impartial, but the reality is when
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Speaker 2: you have a family at home, children, right, it's not
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Speaker 2: just about you any more. I've had jurrrs on gang
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Speaker 2: relady cases, gang cases say right up front, I've heard
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Speaker 2: about the case. I can't sit on this jury. I've
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Speaker 2: got children, they're very they were in inter city Atlanta,
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Speaker 2: Fulton County. I don't know if they're being upfront in
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Speaker 2: the ditty trial, but I do know that one juror
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Speaker 2: set I want off the panel because I'm afraid. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I think they want to do the right thing. But
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Speaker 2: when push comes to shove and it's going home to
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Speaker 2: their children and their family, I don't know. What do
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Speaker 2: you think? This is real?
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Speaker 6: Sure?
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Speaker 2: Very often, Bethany, you hear me say that's bs. That's
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Speaker 2: just in the movies, that's in a book. You know,
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Speaker 2: that's on a TV series, that doesn't happen in real life.
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Speaker 2: This actually happens. I know for a fact, Nancy.
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Speaker 9: This is no fairy tale, This is no novel. This
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Speaker 9: is a real life story. And yes, jurors want to
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Speaker 9: do their civic duty. I think we all do. But
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Speaker 9: as I tell my patients and my practice, your duty
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Speaker 9: is always to your family first, above all, your spouse
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Speaker 9: and your children. Your job is to keep your family safe.
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Speaker 9: If you abdicate that role, who is going to be
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Speaker 9: there for them? And you know, not only are the
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Speaker 9: jurors at risk, the judge as at risk. You and
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Speaker 9: I have covered many cases where judges and their families
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Speaker 9: have been targeted. And then what about when the case
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Speaker 9: is over, These jurors forever will be known as the
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Speaker 9: people who either vindicated or convicted p didty And there
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Speaker 9: are people on both sides that will love and more
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Speaker 9: importantly hate them. And finally, Nancy, what about all those
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Speaker 9: celebrities who could be exposed throughout the course of this trial,
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Speaker 9: or if he did it gets convicted, information starts to
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Speaker 9: roll out. Those celebrities may have a vested interest in
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Speaker 9: quieting these drawers as well.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: This morning and all kicked off with Shawn Cone's walking
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Speaker 2: into the courtroom with a dry mouth asking for more water.
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Speaker 2: And I know for a fact that at every jury trial,
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Speaker 2: each side, state and defense has at least one huge
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Speaker 2: picture of ice, water and glasses, usually plastic glasses for
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Speaker 2: the lawyers and the defendant to have. So I'm wondering why,
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Speaker 2: first thing in the morning he needed a whole.
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Speaker 1: Nother picture of water.
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Speaker 2: Huh?
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Speaker 1: What about it?
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Speaker 2: Lynn Shaw joining me, founder executive director Lynz Warriors, committed
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Speaker 2: to ending human trafficking exploitation of girls. Host of Lyn'z
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Speaker 2: Warriors on YouTube, Lynn, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: Did he got a dry mouth? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Well did?
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Speaker 9: He just wants to get up again and parade through
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Speaker 9: the courtroom and say he needs another bathroom break, so
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Speaker 9: everybody can look at him in his little pullover sweater,
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Speaker 9: his little gray hair, looking all pudgy or skinny. There's
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Speaker 9: varying reports, and try to gain sympathy with anybody in
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Speaker 9: this courtroom.
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Speaker 1: Why, just the other day.
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Speaker 9: There was a pregnant local reporter here in New York
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Speaker 9: City and he was asking her or mouthing to her,
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Speaker 9: how are you doing or how are you feeling? Something
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Speaker 9: to that effect. So there's plenty of water, you know,
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Speaker 9: in the courtroom already another clever roost just to distract
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Speaker 9: away from the real story here victims, victims, victims, And
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Speaker 9: I just want to say something, being here in New
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Speaker 9: York City, living here for decades, there are many dirty
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Speaker 9: Diddy disciples lurking in the background who will get ready
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Speaker 9: to do some dirty deeds for him. No matter how
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Speaker 9: this goes, I would be very afraid anybody judges, jurors,
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Speaker 9: anybody in that courtroom, Reporters of this dirty ditty.
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Speaker 2: Joining us In additional Lauren Colin at the court house.
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Speaker 2: Sidney Suner joining us Crime Stories investigative reporter also on
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Speaker 2: the case, Sidney. I understand that first thing this morning,
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Speaker 2: Combs comes in demands a whole nother picture of water.
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Speaker 2: I wonder why he's got dry mouth. But that said,
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Speaker 2: his mother, his mother, Jana's Combs, also came into the courtroom.
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Speaker 2: In the past. She's been very flamboyant in her dress,
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Speaker 2: but she's taking a page out of Shawn Combs's playbook,
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Speaker 2: and it dressed like she's going to a funeral.
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Speaker 1: Sydney.
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Speaker 11: That's right, Nancy dressed all in black.
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Speaker 8: And Colm's mom isn't the only family member in attendance today.
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Speaker 8: Six of his children are also in the courtroom and
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Speaker 8: they're dressed very similarly. All of them walked in in
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Speaker 8: sunglasses and all of their clothing.
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Speaker 11: Is black and white.
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Speaker 2: They all had on sunglasses in the courtroom.
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Speaker 11: At least as they were walking in.
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Speaker 2: I want to go back to the fact that Shawn Combs,
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Speaker 2: that we know of, is laying at ten million dollars
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Speaker 2: for his defense. But your ours in fear back to
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Speaker 2: Sydney Summer joining US Crime Stories investigative report. This is
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Speaker 2: that's a big deal. Sidney Sumner. We know that one gerar,
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Speaker 2: as I said earlier, asked the judge, begged the judge
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Speaker 2: to be taken off the jury panel because he's got
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Speaker 2: a family.
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Speaker 1: And got quote cold feet.
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Speaker 2: But I know the defense struck a gerr that said
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Speaker 2: they had seen the Cassie video and that Combs looked
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Speaker 2: angry and hostile.
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Speaker 1: They struck that gurrr.
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Speaker 8: Yes, that juror is gone. They commented on that video
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Speaker 8: said Combs looks angry and hostile. But the government has
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Speaker 8: struck a candidate who said he heard about the Comb's
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Speaker 8: case on Joe Rogan's podcast.
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Speaker 11: So we've already had a tit for tat.
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Speaker 2: As if the jury didn't know about the Tupac Shaker hit,
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Speaker 2: the alleged hit where multiple witnesses say Combs ordered a
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Speaker 2: million dollar hit for Tupac Shaker's head and he got it.
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Speaker 2: What about the fact that these jars have seen they've
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Speaker 2: already seen the Cassie Ventira beat down. Did yeah listen?
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Speaker 12: As potential jurors are questioned about their ability to maintain impartiality,
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Speaker 12: an obstacle quickly rears its head the video of Combs
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Speaker 12: attacking Cassie. Numerous potential jurors have seen the video and
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Speaker 12: formed opinions on it. Of those who have watched it,
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Speaker 12: only a few were able to say they did not
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Speaker 12: think it would affect their impartiality.
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Speaker 2: The Cassie beat down a video from our friends at CNN.
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Speaker 2: We expect that particular version not to be introduced at trial.
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Speaker 2: Why because the defense said it had been sped up
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Speaker 2: and it wasn't in its original pristine form. Well, be
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Speaker 2: careful what you ask, my dear, for you will surely
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Speaker 2: get it now. The jury will probably see the entire
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Speaker 2: version in its entirety and in regular motion, right at
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Speaker 2: regular speed. They'll probably wish they had kept the sped
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Speaker 2: up CNN version. You know, Robert Crispin joining us there
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Speaker 2: at Shawn Combs's mansion in Florida. So they know about
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Speaker 2: the Tupac sh murder hit, a million dollar hit. They
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Speaker 2: know about the Cassie beat down video. They've seen it.
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Speaker 2: We've got one juror begging off the panel because he
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Speaker 2: got cold feet.
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Speaker 1: The jury is afraid. They don't care that.
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Speaker 2: Seawn comes is spending ten million dollars on a defense
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Speaker 2: A slick defense.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I think, but the jury's starting to think,
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Speaker 10: as Wow, these are some violent people.
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Speaker 7: What have I gotten myself into?
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Speaker 10: Like I said before, that video was a gift to
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Speaker 10: the prosecution.
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Speaker 1: But what that video does do it.
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Speaker 10: Gives a look inside Vidi's real world when he thinks
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Speaker 10: nobody's watching, nobody's around and it's just him and his victim,
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Speaker 10: or him and an ex girlfriend, or him who doesn't
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Speaker 10: agree with him.
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Speaker 3: Explosive surveillance footage allegedly showing Combe's assaulting Ventura has been
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Speaker 3: admitted into evidence.
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Speaker 2: The jury was finalized in the Shawanhomb's federal indictment try
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Speaker 2: at nine five a m. Straight out to Lauren Collins
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Speaker 2: standing by at the courthouse, Lauren, what happened?
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Speaker 4: The opening statements for the prosecution said that we are
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Speaker 4: going to hear from Cassie this week along with another
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Speaker 4: witness named Jane. They said, we're going to hear or
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Speaker 4: we're going to see videos of these freak offs and
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Speaker 4: it's going to be very uncomfortable for a lot of people.
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Speaker 4: The prosecution also said things that I had never heard before.
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Speaker 4: They said things like Cassie was forced to allow an
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Speaker 4: escort to urinate in her mouth at one point, and
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Speaker 4: this was per the instructions of Sean Colmes. The other witness,
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Speaker 4: Jane is going to testify that she and Diddy got
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Speaker 4: into an altercation where he allegedly stomped on her face
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Speaker 4: and that she would run into every single room, lock
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Speaker 4: the door. He would chase after her and kick the
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Speaker 4: door down, and it was it was very graphic.
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Speaker 2: Straight out to Lynn Shaw, founder director Lynz Warriors, committed
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Speaker 2: to ending sexual exploitation of girls and women. What it
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Speaker 2: sounds like he's going to college. He's wearing reading glasses.
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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen Sean Comes wearing reading glasses? Oh? Okay,
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Speaker 2: that's fake. And the sweater, the white shirt, the khaki pants.
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Speaker 2: Why is he a freshman at Harvard?
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Speaker 9: Lynnshaw, Well, he's pretending to be one dirty Diddy. Listen,
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Speaker 9: none of us are fooled anymore, none of us. We
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Speaker 9: can all see through this. He's wearing reading glasses. I'm
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Speaker 9: sure it's plastic in the frames or clear glass. Nobody,
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Speaker 9: we're New Yorkers. This is a New York jury. We
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Speaker 9: do not get fooled, especially about this case. He has
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Speaker 9: been for decades now, since the early nineties on the lips.
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Speaker 9: I'm telling you of New Yorkers, so many people here
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Speaker 9: about him already. I don't know what he thinks he's doing.
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Speaker 9: None of this is going to help him. Let us
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Speaker 9: keep the focus on victim survivors, and not only the
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Speaker 9: alleged ones of this case, but of all victims and
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Speaker 9: survivors of all of this exploitation. Because Nancy, they are
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Speaker 9: seeking some kind of justice from this case. They want
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Speaker 9: some answers. They want somebody powerful money who has been
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Speaker 9: flaunting this in everybody's face, this exploitation. They want somebody
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Speaker 9: held accountable. And I say, dirty Diddy going down. This
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Speaker 9: is the case.
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Speaker 2: To Eric Fattus, veteran try a lawyer, former prosecutor joining
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Speaker 2: us out of Colorado, Eric, I mean, what's next a
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Speaker 2: wheelchair and a neck brace.
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Speaker 6: You can't go in there wearing a bejeweled cape or something, right,
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Speaker 6: this is court And another.
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Speaker 1: Take on it is that the fattest.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we would never want him to reveal his true self.
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Speaker 2: I mean, have you seen the met gallipachers that's the
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Speaker 2: real Seawan comes right there with the k going down
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Speaker 2: the steps. There you go, Yeah, so you just said
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Speaker 2: fat us, he can't go in wearing a cape.
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Speaker 1: Well why not, because that's what he normally wears.
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Speaker 2: So you're going along with the eye chicking the mind
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Speaker 2: with him dressed up like a Harvard freshman.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure that's what's going on here.
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Speaker 6: Look, he doesn't have the Stylus hun retainer anymore, that's obvious.
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Speaker 6: But on top of that, maybe this is Diddy's true
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Speaker 6: self currently. You know, he is no longer this high profile,
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Speaker 6: powerful mogul with all these resources. He is incarcerated, He
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Speaker 6: is facing a serious federal trial and so his life
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Speaker 6: has changed. You know, he has gray in his hair.
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Speaker 6: My understanding this his appearance has been drastically transformed, and
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Speaker 6: that could just be a reflection of what's going on
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Speaker 6: around him, of the current state of his life. This
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Speaker 6: is who he is today, That's who those jurors are seeing.
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Speaker 2: To doctor Bethany Marshall joining US high profile psychoanalyst, Doctor Bethany,
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Speaker 2: it seems trite, very trite that visual tricks are being
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Speaker 2: used on the khaki pants. You know, you heard Fata
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Speaker 2: say he doesn't have a stylist. I bet you, I
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Speaker 2: bet anything he.
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Speaker 1: Does have a stylist.
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Speaker 2: Those outfits were carefully chosen, very carefully chosen. Have you ever,
20:16
Speaker 2: ever time immemorial, ever seen Sean Combs in a pullover
20:22
Speaker 2: sweater and khaki pants, think back, use that time machine,
20:27
Speaker 2: I mean all the way back, whether he's on stage
20:32
Speaker 2: and the mcgwa walking around La or where Chrismin is
20:36
Speaker 2: joining us down his Miami mansion. Never once. These are
20:41
Speaker 2: serious charges, Bethany. I have seen women rape victims much
20:48
Speaker 2: less with it video and in front of a whole
20:50
Speaker 2: crowd of people while they're drugged according to the prosecution,
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Speaker 2: that basically stay.
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Speaker 1: Indoors the rest of their life. There is a profound
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Speaker 1: impact on rape victims.
21:05
Speaker 2: And there is Seawan Combs and a fake pair of
21:07
Speaker 2: reading glasses.
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Speaker 1: What's he doing reading proofst war in peace?
21:12
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's it's a trick and there's serious
21:17
Speaker 2: charges here, Bethany.
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Speaker 9: We know not only is it a trick, but it's manipulative,
21:22
Speaker 9: and we know that if the allegations are true, Huff
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Speaker 9: Diddy is a manipulative person and may have hired manipulative
21:30
Speaker 9: defense attorneys. And Drawors are not stupid, Nancy. They do
21:36
Speaker 9: see through this. Drawors can feel bored, offended, devalued, treated
21:42
Speaker 9: like they don't have minds, and they can't think. They
21:45
Speaker 9: are not going to like that. And you know what
21:47
Speaker 9: they also wouldn't like in the defense knows this. To
21:50
Speaker 9: see a man with carrots and carrots of diamonds around
21:55
Speaker 9: his neck in the form of a cross, who, then
21:59
Speaker 9: you uses his power to exploit other people. That is
22:04
Speaker 9: a very unsympathetic character, Nancy, And of course the defense
22:08
Speaker 9: wants to hide that. The other thing is that I
22:10
Speaker 9: think ordinary people tend to look at very wealthy people
22:16
Speaker 9: with the suspicion that, maybe you know the saying under
22:19
Speaker 9: beneath them, behind every great fortune lies a great crime.
22:25
Speaker 9: The drawers can see that too, that how did he
22:28
Speaker 9: did he get to the top, How did he approve
22:29
Speaker 9: all this wealth? Why is he hanging around with people
22:34
Speaker 9: who are some of the most vulnerable people you know
22:38
Speaker 9: in society? So hey, this these defense attorneys have a
22:43
Speaker 9: lot camouflage, and these jurors are going to see through it.
22:46
Speaker 9: I guarantee that.
22:48
Speaker 2: Joining us at the courthouse, Lauren Colin, Lauren tell me
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Speaker 2: about the challenge Sean Combs's defense team made to these gurrors.
22:59
Speaker 2: He the fanstain. The late attorney argues that African Americans
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Speaker 2: were systematically excluded from the jury for racial reasons.
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Speaker 1: What happened.
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Speaker 4: They started with the jury strikes, and the defense points
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Speaker 4: it out that the FEDS or the government struck seven
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Speaker 4: black jurors.
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Speaker 1: Out of nine.
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Speaker 4: So the prosecution gave their reasoning behind these strikes, and
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Speaker 4: it was very valid. I mean, some of these jurors
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Speaker 4: they had said something like they were going to lose
23:32
Speaker 4: thirty percent of their income by being on this trial,
23:35
Speaker 4: but that wasn't a concern for them, which actually led
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Speaker 4: the prosecution to say, well, I have questions about their
23:43
Speaker 4: intent here in the fact that they might want to
23:45
Speaker 4: be here for our ulterior reasons, or they might have
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Speaker 4: an ulterior motive.
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Speaker 2: Eric Fattus. This argument is as old as dirt, and
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Speaker 2: it has been addressed by the US Supreme Court in
23:56
Speaker 2: Batson versus Kentucky b Brother atsa the Kentucky. In that case,
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Speaker 2: the prosecutor was accused of striking from the jury the
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Speaker 2: big the grand jury panel you know, of eighty to
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Speaker 2: one hundred people in order to get twelve for the
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Speaker 2: petit petite jury of twelve, striking for racial reasons, which
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Speaker 2: is unconstitutional. Therefore, whenever you strike anyone anybody. Whether they're white,
24:26
Speaker 2: they're black, they're Asian, doesn't matter. You better have a
24:31
Speaker 2: good reason for striking. When I struck juries, typically my
24:38
Speaker 2: defendant was black. My victims usually there were more than
24:42
Speaker 2: one were black. There was no real racial undercurrent going
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Speaker 2: on in the courtroom, so I didn't have a lot
24:50
Speaker 2: of bats and arguments against me. But what the state
24:54
Speaker 2: has to do, and I'm sure that they did, you
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Speaker 2: have to write. I would keep the jury uh list,
25:01
Speaker 2: and what that is is a huge print out. I
25:03
Speaker 2: don't know if they do them the same way in
25:04
Speaker 2: your jurisdiction. I'm sure they do fattus where you have
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Speaker 2: the juror's name, whether they're married, maybe where they were,
25:13
Speaker 2: whether they live, to ensure they live in that county
25:16
Speaker 2: or that jurisdiction, re else they're not qualified for the jury.
25:19
Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit more identifying information. But that said,
25:23
Speaker 2: I would put notes, my notes beside each name, so
25:28
Speaker 2: if there was a challenge, I could say, well, I
25:32
Speaker 2: struck him because he doesn't have a job, and if
25:36
Speaker 2: he can't show up to a job every day, then
25:39
Speaker 2: why do I think he's going to show up to
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Speaker 2: court and pay attention? Or Jerr Fell asleep in Voodie
25:46
Speaker 2: or jury selection or let's see, here's a good one.
25:50
Speaker 2: Juror's husband convicted of rape. If I'm trying a rape case, yeah,
25:56
Speaker 2: I don't want her on. So I would always keep notes,
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Speaker 2: brief notes beside each juror, whether.
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Speaker 1: I wanted them or didn't want them, my impressions.
26:06
Speaker 2: Of that juror as we were striking the jury, as
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Speaker 2: I was questioning them on voy Dyer. So bats In v. Kentucky.
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Speaker 2: Easy solution to have your reasons why you strugg as
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Speaker 2: you are when the challenge arises way in on bats
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Speaker 2: In v.
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Speaker 1: Kentucky.
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Speaker 2: Faddest, I'm sure you face it in court.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, great, mind stickle like d Ancy. That's exactly
26:27
Speaker 6: how I did it when I was a prosecutor. Because
26:29
Speaker 6: here's the thing that's breason. A bats and challenge is
26:32
Speaker 6: kind of a big deal because it's really insinuating that
26:35
Speaker 6: the other side is kicking somebody off based on their race.
26:38
Speaker 6: That that's you know, inflammatory and problematic, and so you
26:43
Speaker 6: need to have a race neutral reason for excluding those folks.
26:47
Speaker 6: You know, this wouldn't be the first time that the
26:49
Speaker 6: defense has brought up race, and you know, historically for
26:53
Speaker 6: race has played a role in the justice. So let's
26:55
Speaker 6: be honest. And so you know, is the Diddy team
26:58
Speaker 6: sort of using as one potential argument to this jury
27:02
Speaker 6: in terms of why some rich black man is facing
27:05
Speaker 6: these federal offenses. I think they're going to take that
27:07
Speaker 6: route in some former fast.
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Speaker 3: The trial is just getting started, expected to last eight
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Speaker 3: weeks with a shocking testimony from accusers and insiders.
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Speaker 1: On deck.
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Speaker 5: Witness IREI is still missing. The court was informed last
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Speaker 5: week that prosecutors have lost communication and cannot locate her.
27:28
Speaker 5: In fact, prosecutors cannot reach her attorney either, meaning they
27:32
Speaker 5: are not sure Victim three will show up in court.
27:35
Speaker 5: The woman does not live in New York. TMZ reports
27:38
Speaker 5: the woman never wanted to appear in court at all,
27:41
Speaker 5: refusing to cooperate and never agreed to testify against Ditty.
27:45
Speaker 5: Prosecutors said Victim three would disclose very personal and exclusive
27:50
Speaker 5: details concerning abuse she suffered under calms plenty.
27:53
Speaker 2: Of respect on harved eleven over at TMZ, but they
27:57
Speaker 2: had to speak to her at some point and in
27:59
Speaker 2: order to put her on the witness list. Right now,
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Speaker 2: the state is down a victim, victim gone, even though
28:08
Speaker 2: we know at some point she had to speak to
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Speaker 2: the Feds.
28:12
Speaker 1: Even the lawyer is not responding to calls.
28:15
Speaker 2: Joining me there at Diddy's mansion in Florida, where the
28:19
Speaker 2: neighbors are happy. This thing may finally be put to rest.
28:22
Speaker 2: Robert Crispin joining US Christmins Special Investigations, former Federal Task
28:26
Speaker 2: Course Officer, Department, US Department of Justice. Robert A witness,
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Speaker 2: not just a witness, but a victim is in the wind.
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Speaker 1: I've had it happen to me on a child sex
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Speaker 1: trafficking case.
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Speaker 2: The victim disappeared and was in no show the first
28:46
Speaker 2: day and a half of trial. Let me just say
28:50
Speaker 2: I was out all night literally with my investigator, going
28:54
Speaker 2: to every flop house in intercity Atlanta trying to find
28:57
Speaker 2: the girl. We found her and went forward. Then I
29:01
Speaker 2: would try the case all day long. We found her.
29:04
Speaker 2: Not so easy in the ditty case, This victim could
29:07
Speaker 2: be anywhere in the US and the lawyer's not picking
29:10
Speaker 2: up the phone.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, we call that being scared to death. That's exactly
29:16
Speaker 10: what that is. This person doesn't want to testify. She's
29:18
Speaker 10: already related to the government that she doesn't want to
29:20
Speaker 10: testify because if she testifies and he's found guilty, she's damned.
29:26
Speaker 10: If they find him not guilty, she's damned because they
29:29
Speaker 10: led a alleged sexual predator back on the street. It's
29:32
Speaker 10: a lose lose situation for a victim, and it's very intimidating,
29:38
Speaker 10: very intimidating. Even though you're a victim with all the
29:41
Speaker 10: victim's rights and the victim advocates, when it comes down
29:44
Speaker 10: to you getting up and sitting in that chair and
29:47
Speaker 10: raising your right hand and actually telling your story, it's
29:50
Speaker 10: very intimidating. Not only is it intimidating, it brings up
29:54
Speaker 10: bad pass in your mind and in your heart.
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Speaker 1: It's really something.
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Speaker 2: That a lot of people, I don't want to be
30:00
Speaker 2: president anymore intimidating. They all know what happened to Cassie Ventira, okay,
30:07
Speaker 2: and that was at a public hotel. They know what
30:10
Speaker 2: happened to her, No wonder she's disappeared and the lawyer's
30:14
Speaker 2: not picking the phone up. And we know that even
30:18
Speaker 2: from behind bars, prosecutors have produced evidence Combs is tampering
30:23
Speaker 2: with witnesses.
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Speaker 5: Listen, Prosecutors say, even behind bars, Sean Combs has an
30:28
Speaker 5: uncanny ability to get others to do his bidding. Diddy
30:31
Speaker 5: has been accused of obstructing his sex trafficking case by
30:35
Speaker 5: paying off witnesses and even enlisting his own children in
30:39
Speaker 5: a public relations campaign, namely the video posted by seven
30:43
Speaker 5: of his children wishing Dad a happy birthday in November.
30:53
Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Now we heard the fattest spout out that Shawnklins doesn't
31:02
Speaker 2: have a stylist.
31:03
Speaker 1: BS.
31:04
Speaker 2: He does have a stylist. If he's focusing that much
31:07
Speaker 2: on what he's wearing to court, you want to tell
31:09
Speaker 2: me he hasn't tried to get to the victims. Listen.
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Speaker 5: Prosecutors say evidence from Shawcom's cells shows the accused wrapper
31:16
Speaker 5: made relentless efforts from jail to contact potential witnesses, including victims.
31:22
Speaker 5: These methods reportedly involved three way calls, using other inmates'
31:26
Speaker 5: phone access codes, a third party communications service, and directing
31:30
Speaker 5: family members to contact potential witnesses. The aim to blackmail
31:35
Speaker 5: victims and witnesses into either silence or to provide testimony
31:39
Speaker 5: helpful to Colmbs.
31:40
Speaker 2: Speaking of getting to the victims straight out to Sydney's
31:44
Speaker 2: summer joining US Crime Stories, investigative reporter Sydney isn't it true.
31:49
Speaker 2: Prosecutors are planning to introduce evidence that.
31:52
Speaker 1: Shawn Combs forced one of.
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Speaker 2: His victims to undergo an unwanted medical procedure. I mean,
32:02
Speaker 2: was it an abortion? I don't know, But what can
32:05
Speaker 2: you tell me about that? If he could force a
32:07
Speaker 2: victim to undergo an operation, a medical procedure, what makes
32:14
Speaker 2: the state fink he's not trying to scare or intimidate
32:17
Speaker 2: the victims in this case, Sydney.
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Speaker 11: No, that's right, Nancy.
32:20
Speaker 8: Prosecutors intend to introduce this evidence and we don't know
32:24
Speaker 8: yet what that unwanted medical procedure was. You're completely right.
32:29
Speaker 8: It definitely could have been an abortion, going along with
32:33
Speaker 8: the fact that did he coerces all of these women
32:37
Speaker 8: into unwanted sexual encounters and then doesn't want to keep
32:40
Speaker 8: relationships with them. So prosecutors are introducing this to show
32:45
Speaker 8: that pattern of behavior, to show the level of control
32:49
Speaker 8: that Sean Colms exerted over his victims. So that could
32:53
Speaker 8: be really powerful in front of the jury.
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Speaker 1: It was exactly ten twenty a m.
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Speaker 2: This morning that the jury into the courtroom with Shawn
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Speaker 2: Combe standing at attention to impanel and swear in the jury.
33:08
Speaker 2: This is a day that's been.
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Speaker 1: Long in coming.
33:12
Speaker 2: The state claims that decades of abuse of women and
33:17
Speaker 2: so called free coughs have occurred. Finally, will there be
33:23
Speaker 2: justice this as one of the victims disappears, can't.
33:28
Speaker 1: Find her or her lawyer straight.
33:31
Speaker 2: Out to Sidney Sumner, joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter,
33:34
Speaker 2: I understand, in light victim number three a no show,
33:39
Speaker 2: the state has added Victim five to the roster.
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Speaker 8: Now, Victim five, who is not mentioned in charging documents,
33:46
Speaker 8: will not be able to just replace Victim three. Judge
33:50
Speaker 8: Sue Ermanian has ruled that they will not be able
33:53
Speaker 8: to include all of the intended testimony, only part of it,
33:57
Speaker 8: because this victim is a similar transaction.
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Speaker 11: This victim will also not.
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Speaker 1: Be granted anonymity.
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Speaker 2: We know that one of the victims is not asking
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Speaker 2: to testify under a pseudonym.
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Speaker 1: It's Cassie Ventura.
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Speaker 2: Cassie Ventura is heavily pregnant at this juncture, and her
34:20
Speaker 2: cross examination by the defense is going to be very tricky. Listen,
34:25
Speaker 2: when you have a pregnant lady, a mom up on
34:29
Speaker 2: the stand, I mean, you know how cruel can you be?
34:34
Speaker 2: You can't really, you know, shredder on the stand that
34:37
Speaker 2: my friends at to be. And of course Mark Gira
34:40
Speaker 2: goes giving a very vague answer on that. But Eric fattis,
34:45
Speaker 2: if the defense team comes across as bullying Cassie Ventura,
34:51
Speaker 2: that's going to totally play against Coums.
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Speaker 6: That's going to rub the journy the wrong way.
34:57
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
34:58
Speaker 6: I mean, not only do you have the superstar already
35:02
Speaker 6: sympathetic victim, but there's a video of her being brutalized,
35:05
Speaker 6: and the person being brutalized is going to be on
35:07
Speaker 6: the stand, pregnant, telling you how she was verbally and
35:10
Speaker 6: sexually brutalized. And so it's going to be a delicate
35:14
Speaker 6: dance here. The defense has to kind of approach this
35:18
Speaker 6: in a sensitive fashion but also be firm enough to
35:21
Speaker 6: get their points across. And so the balance to be
35:25
Speaker 6: struck here cannot be understated.
35:26
Speaker 2: Well, I got to say this to doctor Bethany Marshall,
35:30
Speaker 2: Cassie Ventura is going to be able to handle whatever
35:34
Speaker 2: they throw at her. She is the one that broke
35:37
Speaker 2: the whole thing wide open when she filed that civil lawsuit.
35:42
Speaker 2: And basically the Feds had a red flag waved in
35:45
Speaker 2: front of them like a bull because it was out
35:49
Speaker 2: there and they were left looking emasculated. They had done nothing.
35:56
Speaker 2: And here's this video. Let's take a look at the
35:59
Speaker 2: video wherever buddy this is coming into court in a
36:02
Speaker 2: different iteration. There you see Cassie Ventura. Oh and here
36:07
Speaker 2: he comes. Thank goodness that towel didn't slip. She's trying
36:13
Speaker 2: to get away reportedly from a freak cough. Now, Giragos
36:18
Speaker 2: tells me it wasn't a freak cough at all, that she.
36:23
Speaker 1: Was the aggressor.
36:25
Speaker 2: She Cassie Ventura is the aggressor in this video. She,
36:31
Speaker 2: according to Giragos, was angry when she saw Combs had
36:35
Speaker 2: gotten text from another woman. Okay, she looks like she
36:40
Speaker 2: weighs about one hundred pounds soaking wet in that video.
36:44
Speaker 2: But yet Giago said, with a straight face, this is
36:48
Speaker 2: from my friends at seeing n by the way, a
36:50
Speaker 2: straight face, that she was the aggressor. Now, okay, I'm
36:59
Speaker 2: doctor Beth Gara Goes. His daughter is all the defense
37:04
Speaker 2: taing Tenny. Gary Goes is saying that that you're not
37:09
Speaker 2: saying what you think you're seeing.
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Speaker 1: She's actually the aggressor in that video.
37:14
Speaker 2: Really, are they actually gonna say that to a jury.
37:17
Speaker 2: One hundred pound Cassie is giving Diddy the beat down.
37:21
Speaker 9: I sell like a broken record, But Nancy, jurors are
37:24
Speaker 9: not stupid, and jurors can feel like they're being kind
37:29
Speaker 9: of manipulated or mistreated, and I think the defense should
37:32
Speaker 9: be very careful with this line of reasoning. You know,
37:35
Speaker 9: the truth is, you see this young Cassie Ventura running
37:40
Speaker 9: for her life with bear feet. The allegations that he
37:44
Speaker 9: was on the phone doing business deals while he coursed
37:47
Speaker 9: her into having sex with somebody else while he was
37:50
Speaker 9: watching could come out. He kicks her in the back,
37:54
Speaker 9: she has to pretend to play dead. He drags her
37:56
Speaker 9: back down the hallway, and then.
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Speaker 2: The jurors see this.
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Speaker 9: Resilient woman who has re established her life, probably has
38:05
Speaker 9: a new relationship, is going to create a family. This
38:09
Speaker 9: is a woman to be admired. She rose above the trauma,
38:14
Speaker 9: she did the work, whatever she did to reconstitute herself.
38:17
Speaker 9: She is a very admirabley witness. So they are going
38:20
Speaker 9: to hang on every single word, Nancy, because most victims
38:25
Speaker 9: do not establish themselves like this Bonachelle.
38:28
Speaker 2: In the courtroom, the defense is actually going to argue
38:32
Speaker 2: that Cassie Ventura was the aggressor, that she was the
38:38
Speaker 2: one giving Sean Combs the beatdown. What JURR is going
38:43
Speaker 2: to believe that, especially in light of this.
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Speaker 13: It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
38:52
Speaker 13: your life. Sometimes you got to do that. I was,
39:00
Speaker 13: I mean, I hit rock bottom, but I made no excuses.
39:04
Speaker 13: My behavior on that video is inexcusable. I take full
39:09
Speaker 13: responsibility for my ashes in that video.
39:13
Speaker 1: I'm disgusted.
39:16
Speaker 13: I was disgusted then when I did it.
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Speaker 2: I'm disgusting now.
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Speaker 10: And went in.
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Speaker 1: I sought out professional help.
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Speaker 13: And to go into therapy. I'm going to rehab. Had
39:32
Speaker 13: asked God for his mercy and grace.
39:35
Speaker 2: Second verse same as the first. So if he didn't
39:39
Speaker 2: do it, why is he apologizing for it? And that
39:41
Speaker 2: song comes as official Instagram? I wonder if they're going
39:46
Speaker 2: to play that. We know the Cassie material tape is
39:48
Speaker 2: in straight back out to Lauren Collins standing by. I
39:52
Speaker 2: understand the courtroom holes about one hundred people, and I
39:54
Speaker 2: guess it was.
39:56
Speaker 1: Packed, right, Okay, we'll get the answer to that.
40:02
Speaker 2: You know, I'm hearing Lynn Shaw Combs in that video
40:07
Speaker 2: stating he wants to be a better person. He's disgusted
40:10
Speaker 2: with himself. He's going to rehab. But yet that'side on
40:15
Speaker 2: one side of his mouth. The other side of his mouth,
40:18
Speaker 2: he's actually going to argue to the jury that Cassie
40:21
Speaker 2: was the violent one.
40:23
Speaker 9: Please stop, Nancy, because I'm getting sick. I'm getting sick
40:26
Speaker 9: watching that video over and over again. We have to
40:29
Speaker 9: remember people are visual. Once they see that video, this
40:33
Speaker 9: will stick in their minds Now, Listen, we work with
40:36
Speaker 9: a lot of survivors and victims at the Warriors. What
40:39
Speaker 9: do they tell me repeatedly when they are being attacked,
40:42
Speaker 9: They played dead. They do not move. They don't want
40:45
Speaker 9: to further and rage that person. They don't want more beatings,
40:49
Speaker 9: so they remain very still.
40:51
Speaker 1: Where is her video of her beating him?
40:54
Speaker 2: That's what I want to know.
40:55
Speaker 9: Why is this playbook the same thing we're in court?
40:57
Speaker 9: A lot flipped on putting it on the victim. Oh,
41:00
Speaker 9: it's their fault. They caused me to do it. That's consensual.
41:04
Speaker 9: You know what the jury again, like doctor Bethany said,
41:07
Speaker 9: like I'm saying as a New Yorker, new Yorkers are smart,
41:10
Speaker 9: They're not going to buy this. And you know what,
41:11
Speaker 9: dirty Diddy going down Sidney Sumner.
41:14
Speaker 2: Where are we getting the ten million dollar defense bill?
41:20
Speaker 9: Nancy.
41:21
Speaker 8: That's coming from several expert defense attorneys who all believe
41:26
Speaker 8: that each day of trial could be costing homes more
41:29
Speaker 8: than one hundred thousand dollars. This is coming top lawyers
41:34
Speaker 8: charge million dollar reteamers for complex federal cases like this.
41:39
Speaker 8: They charge about sixteen hundred dollars an hour in their
41:42
Speaker 8: support staff behind them costs about half that much per hour.
41:47
Speaker 8: So several people agree that a ten million dollar price
41:51
Speaker 8: tag is a reasonable estimate.
41:53
Speaker 1: Whoa fatness.
41:54
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I got paid just
41:56
Speaker 2: to seem like a little over minimum wage if you
42:00
Speaker 2: equal it out over all the overtime hours I worked
42:03
Speaker 2: as a prosecutor. I had two nine jobs teaching school
42:06
Speaker 2: at night to pay the house and the car note.
42:09
Speaker 2: Ten million dollars. They better, they better produce.
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Speaker 6: This is a high price tag, no question. But it's
42:17
Speaker 6: a very complex case. You know that the decades, excuse me,
42:20
Speaker 6: the the allegations span decades. There are umpteen witnesses, several jurisdictions.
42:26
Speaker 6: It's just very involved, and so surely it is going
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Speaker 6: to warrant a high feed from the attorneys and they're
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Speaker 6: going to have to come with it because ten million dollars,
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Speaker 6: you know, a person expects results.
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Speaker 2: All, like I say, is they better bring it.
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Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds.
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Speaker 2: And now we remember an American hero Patrol Officer, Stephen
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Speaker 2: Artil Brentwood PD in Hampshire, shot and killed in the
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Speaker 2: line of duty. Served law enforcement seventeen years, leaving behind
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Speaker 2: wife turned widow, Heather, daughters Kimberly and Lauren. American hero
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Speaker 2: role officer Stephen Arkell. Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,