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Mark Belling Podcast #149: How did it get to THIS for Wisconsin Democrats? · The Mark Belling Podcast

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Speaker 2: I'm going to write a book right here on the podcast. Well,
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Speaker 2: not really, it'll be a really short book. Back in
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Speaker 2: the sixties and the seventies, there was an old goat
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Speaker 2: named Theodore White, and he'd write these books every four years,
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Speaker 2: The Making of the I think the first one was
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Speaker 2: after a presidential election based on all of the report
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Speaker 2: rearing that he did during the election campaign, and the
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Speaker 2: books became history. They became the groundwork for the telling
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Speaker 2: of the history of how whoever it was won that election.
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Speaker 2: We're in the middle of the Wisconsin governor election and
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Speaker 2: it is already the most newsworthy and maybe noteworthy election
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Speaker 2: we've ever had. We have the most watched governor's election
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Speaker 2: in America. We're a swing state, yet the Democratic Party
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Speaker 2: is about tomorrow to nominate and out and out mars
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Speaker 2: Is to be their candidate for governor, and obviously the
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Speaker 2: entire nation is watching this. So the book, the book
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Speaker 2: is how did we get to this point? How did
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Speaker 2: this happen to the once proud Wisconsin Democrat Party. What's
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Speaker 2: going on right now is there is just incredible hand
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Speaker 2: ringing in all seventy two counties of the state, anywhere
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Speaker 2: there is a traditional Wisconsin Democrat. Most of the hand ringing, however,
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Speaker 2: is internal. Very few of them are coming out and
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Speaker 2: saying it, with the exception of some of the ads
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Speaker 2: that are now being run last minute almost panicked in
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Speaker 2: an attempt by some Democrats to stop Hong because they
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Speaker 2: realize that not only does Hong represent a potential loss
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Speaker 2: of the governor's election in twenty twenty six, even more
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Speaker 2: existentially for them, she represents a loss of what was
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Speaker 2: the Wisconsin Democratic Party to be replaced by whether you
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Speaker 2: call a democratic, socialist, Communists, or Marxist whatever, to replace
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Speaker 2: be replaced by them. How did this happen? Wisconsin's a
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Speaker 2: dead even swing state, but it has a powerful Democrat Party. Infrastructure,
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Speaker 2: and that power goes back decades. How did they lose
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Speaker 2: all of that to a dinghy young, not very intelligent,
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Speaker 2: totally unaccomplished Madison Marxist. How you would think I would
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Speaker 2: need seven hours to tell this story. I'm going to
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Speaker 2: try to tell it in less than half an hour
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Speaker 2: in the first segment of the podcast, because it's quite fascinating.
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Speaker 2: Some of the worst decisions that people make are made
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Speaker 2: because of fear. Some of the best decisions people make
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Speaker 2: are made because of fear. Because you're terrified of something
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Speaker 2: bad happening. You do everything you're power to prevented happening.
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Speaker 2: But sometimes it works the other way. Because you're terrified
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Speaker 2: dot com. As I mentioned a moment ago from the
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Speaker 2: traditional Wisconsin Democrat Party, and I'll describe traditional as being
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Speaker 2: everybody in the Democratic Party that says they're not a socialist,
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Speaker 2: which used to be almost all of them, but is
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Speaker 2: now still a large chunk of them. Elected officials, party leaders,
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Speaker 2: institutional people, most of the legislature on the Democratic side, etc.
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Speaker 2: There's this panic going on now. I've been asking on
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Speaker 2: this podcast for weeks, really months, why the Democrats weren't
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Speaker 2: doing anything to stop Hag, And I'm asking it again
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Speaker 2: now because now they seem to be trying to do
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Speaker 2: something to stop Hag. But maybe I'm wrong about this.
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Speaker 2: It certainly appears to be too little, too late. Let
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Speaker 2: me start with this. It's possible she'll lose the primary tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: I think that's very unlikely. It's very unlikely just because
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Speaker 2: of the timing here. The big push against Hong didn't
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Speaker 2: really begin until two weeks ago, which is when early
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Speaker 2: voting began. Now this election might be different, but almost
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Speaker 2: all Democrats voted in advance of election day, growing number
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Speaker 2: of Republicans do it. But unless you've got this huge
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Speaker 2: mass tens of thousands of Wisconsin Democrats who intend to
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Speaker 2: vote tomorrow and intend to go out in a last
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Speaker 2: minute attempt to stop Francesca Hang, She's going to win,
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Speaker 2: So why didn't all of this she can't win, she's this,
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Speaker 2: she's that, and the leaking of all of this embarrassing
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Speaker 2: stuff on her, which by the way, is all being
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Speaker 2: leaked by Democrats. I'll explain that in a moment. Why
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Speaker 2: did they wait so long for the life of me.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I partly know. I know
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Speaker 2: some of the reasons that they didn't want to do it,
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Speaker 2: but I also know all the reasons why they now
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Speaker 2: know that it had to be done. Among them, here
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Speaker 2: are the people who, if they had raised their voices,
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Speaker 2: could have given tremendous pause to this whole Francesco hung
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Speaker 2: freight trade. Gwen Moore, she's been in Congress forever, Senior
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Speaker 2: leader of the Democratic Party in Wisconsin. Tammy Baldwin really
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Speaker 2: left the United States senator, been there forever in Washington.
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Speaker 2: But she's never said she's a Marxist. She doesn't say
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Speaker 2: she's a Democrat socialist America. She's a Democrat, liberal Democrat
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Speaker 2: Madison typical traditional liberal Democrat. Where's shabed? And until three
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Speaker 2: weeks ago, Tony Evers the face of the Democratic Party
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Speaker 2: in the state, two term eight year governor. Now Evers
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Speaker 2: did become the one and really only prominent one of
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Speaker 2: them who did stand up three weeks ago when he
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Speaker 2: endorsed David Crowley, and did so by essentially saying, we're
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Speaker 2: going to lose in this state if we elect Han.
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Speaker 2: But why did it take him that lawn? Now here's
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Speaker 2: the partial explanation. It is clear, and I've been talking
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Speaker 2: about this forever, that the overwhelming majority of mainstream Democrats
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Speaker 2: are terrified of these people. Look for example, at Chuck Schumer.
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Speaker 2: He's scared to death of that wing of his party.
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Speaker 2: He's the Democratic leader of the entire United States Senate,
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Speaker 2: but he's frozen in paralysis, terrified of these people. Likewise,
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Speaker 2: these Wisconsin mainstream Democrats, let's cherry pick out the names
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Speaker 2: I use. Gwen Wore. Gwen Wore scared to death of
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Speaker 2: the Democratic Socialists of America, scared to death of the
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Speaker 2: last foot left wing. She's afraid she's next. She didn't
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Speaker 2: have an opponent in this year's Democratic primary for Congress.
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Speaker 2: Her district consists of the central portion of Milwaukee County.
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Speaker 2: If she came out and she ripped on Hang and
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Speaker 2: said and she didn't norse Hong, but she hasn't gone
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Speaker 2: out there and ripped on her and said that this
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Speaker 2: is an existential threat to our party. And all the
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Speaker 2: things that I mentioned, certainly one of them would have
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Speaker 2: run against her in twenty twenty eight in the Democratic
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Speaker 2: primary for Congress. Tammy Baldwin, She's not up again for
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Speaker 2: four years, and who knows if she's even going to run,
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Speaker 2: But I think she clearly fears that she'd be targeted.
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Speaker 2: It's people like Tammy Baldwin that are losing all over
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Speaker 2: the country and Democratic primaries to the radicals. Now. In
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Speaker 2: the case of Tammy, and I'm here in grumbling from
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Speaker 2: Democrats as to why she didn't step up, because her
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Speaker 2: next election isn't until twenty thirty, Why didn't she step up?
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Speaker 2: Why couldn't she say something to save our party? We
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Speaker 2: were always there for her. Where was she? I've heard
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Speaker 2: this grumbling, But again I think that this fear of
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Speaker 2: this radical wing of the party scared them out of it,
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Speaker 2: but the end result is they are where they are.
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Speaker 2: One of two things is going to happen. Presuming Hang
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Speaker 2: wins the primary. She's going to win the primary and
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Speaker 2: lose the governor's election, We're going to have a Republican governor. Or.
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Speaker 2: She's going to win the governor election, her entire cabinet
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Speaker 2: and the entire power structure of her administration will be Marxist,
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Speaker 2: meaning there's no place for all these traditional old Democrats.
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Speaker 2: Do you think if she wins, Hank and her people
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Speaker 2: get in place, they want any part of the old
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Speaker 2: Tony Evers crowd? Do you think they want any part
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Speaker 2: of the old Democrat hackery of across the state of Wisconsin.
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Speaker 2: They're done and the party has been come in Wisconsin
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Speaker 2: permanently a socialist slash Marxist political party. So either way,
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Speaker 2: the Wisconsin Democrats that stained a major defeat, it can
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Speaker 2: be a temporary four year defeat if they lose the governorship,
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Speaker 2: or it could be permanent if there's a democratic governor.
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Speaker 2: But it's not the kind of Democrat or Democrat that
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Speaker 2: we're going to have now or for the near future.
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Speaker 2: That the party's been taken over and stolen from them. Now,
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Speaker 2: I talked over the weekend with a Democrat. I'm not
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Speaker 2: going to name the person, I do talk to some
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Speaker 2: of them. This is somebody from like the main stream
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Speaker 2: of the main stream of the mainstream of the Democratic Party,
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Speaker 2: regular old bull Democrat, not prominent, but still somebody who's
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Speaker 2: been in there, involved for a long time. And he
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Speaker 2: basically agreed with the entire take on Hog all this baggage,
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Speaker 2: with all these unbelievably insane statements, the very very clumsy
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Speaker 2: attempts to sort of disavow them without disavowing them, the
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Speaker 2: fact that she's never a company. You're asking the public
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Speaker 2: in the state of Wisconsin to choose as the chief
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Speaker 2: executive officer of the entire state. Someone's never run anything
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Speaker 2: other than a Raymond noodle shop that she ran into
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Speaker 2: the ground and bankrupted. And this guy's complaint was basically
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Speaker 2: with the other leadership of the party. The staffers of
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Speaker 2: the Democratic Party of the state of Wisconsin lean radical themselves.
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Speaker 2: I will interject this guy didn't tell me this, but
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Speaker 2: I've talked for our were about the problem of the
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Speaker 2: Republicans in Wisconsin being Madisonized. You have the establishment of
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Speaker 2: the Republican Party of Wisconsin with the offices and headquarters
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Speaker 2: in Madison. The legislative staff is in Madison. Yet Madison
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Speaker 2: is a city that is overwhelmingly not Republicans. So you
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Speaker 2: have the party being run by people from a community
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Speaker 2: in which Republicans are fringe. So they have Republican Madisonized thinking. Well,
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Speaker 2: the same is true of the Democrats. The Democrats in
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Speaker 2: Madison are way more leftists than the Democrats and the
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Speaker 2: rest of the state. So their party's establishment, you know,
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Speaker 2: the assistant secretary of this, the director of that, the
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Speaker 2: communications here, and for all I know, maybe even the
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Speaker 2: party chair who replaced Ben Wickler, they may be closer
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Speaker 2: to the long way of thinking than the actual members
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Speaker 2: and donors and public employee you use it so on
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Speaker 2: of the political party. So what's happening now, Well, this
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Speaker 2: person was called up by the person that I talked to,
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Speaker 2: in particular, Meggie Goo. Who's Meggie Gough. She's the behind
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Speaker 2: the scenes, de facto head of the Democratic Party of
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Speaker 2: the state of Wisconsin. She's the chief of staff for
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Speaker 2: Tony Evers and has been for the entire eight years
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Speaker 2: of his governorship. And she's been the real governor. Tony
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Speaker 2: knows not much of anything about anything. We all know
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Speaker 2: that he's not a detailed guy, and he's not much
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Speaker 2: of a big picture guy. The only thing he knows
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Speaker 2: much about is give more money to the public schools.
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Speaker 2: Maggie Gow's run his governorship. She's been responsible for all
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Speaker 2: of the appointment. She's responsible for all of the strategizing.
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Speaker 2: Evers takes such a back seat to her that he
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Speaker 2: even allowed her to violate a rule of employment that
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Speaker 2: not a single major employer in the United States allows anymore.
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Speaker 2: You can't have a supervisor having a relationship with an underlag.
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Speaker 2: Maggie lives with the press. Secretary Presidenter works for Maggie.
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Speaker 2: There's no company in America that tolerates that anymore. Our
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Speaker 2: company doesn't tolerate it. Evers tolerated it because Evers, in
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Speaker 2: his view, isn't the boss. Maggie's the boss. Well, Maggie says,
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Speaker 2: this is the way we're going to do it. Meggie's
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Speaker 2: gonna do it because Maggie's gonna do it anyway. Meggie
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Speaker 2: Gow she would have. Given the fact that Evers is
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Speaker 2: still politically popular and is leaving office and not running
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Speaker 2: for reelection. She could have positioned Evers early on in
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Speaker 2: a way to block Hog, but has explained to me
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Speaker 2: most of the candidates that were running Maggie gow doesn't like.
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Speaker 2: She does not like Mendela Barnes, who was Evers's lieutenant
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Speaker 2: governor for the first four years. She can't stand Sarah Rodriguez,
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Speaker 2: who has been and still is the lieutenant governor and
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Speaker 2: was running for the position. She doesn't like Joel Brennan,
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Speaker 2: who used to work for Evers and is now the
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Speaker 2: president of the Greater Milwaukee Committee. So she didn't like
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Speaker 2: any of these alternatives personally. So Evers kind of stood
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Speaker 2: aside end didn't do anything, and we also see what
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Speaker 2: happens all the also also rans we're either tripping over
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Speaker 2: one another or screwing up or not getting any momentum,
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Speaker 2: or dividing the vote from Mendela Barnes to Crowley to
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Speaker 2: Sarah Rodriguez red and spinning his wheels getting nowhere. Missy
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Speaker 2: Hughes dropped out of the race. Kell de Roy is
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Speaker 2: still nowhere. In the meantime, here's Hong being endorsed by
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Speaker 2: the National Marxist kingmaker Hassan Piker going to the top
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Speaker 2: while all of these other Democrats, as I see, are
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Speaker 2: kind of bumping into one another and no resistance at
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Speaker 2: all from anywhere else, including Evers. So the decision was
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Speaker 2: made a few weeks ago, Okay, we have to anoint
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Speaker 2: someone to stop Hong, and everybody else has to either
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Speaker 2: get out of the race or get no support. And
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Speaker 2: decided that the best option there was going to be
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Speaker 2: Sarah Roveguez. And within a week Sarah had blown up.
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Speaker 2: As it turns out, Sarah apparently has raised no money,
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Speaker 2: but her campaign manager was lying to her and telling
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Speaker 2: her Way had raised all sorts of money, and the
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Speaker 2: internal campaign financial reports that were giving to Sarah were
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Speaker 2: simply counting one donation three, four, five, six times to
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Speaker 2: make the number appear to be bigger than it is.
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Speaker 2: Before the filing was going to be put out, Sarah
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Speaker 2: Roniguez found out about it, fired, her campaign manager, became
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Speaker 2: the subject of Anna Kill. Dropped out of the race.
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Speaker 2: So one of the candidates had it already earlier dropped out,
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Speaker 2: David Crowley dropped back in and suddenly was instantly endorsed
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Speaker 2: by Evers. And you've had this last minute, three week
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Speaker 2: long here panic push to try to rally the entire
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Speaker 2: mainstream of the Democratic Party behind Crowley. They've tried to
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Speaker 2: get Brennan to drop out, he continues to hang in
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Speaker 2: there at three percent of the polls. They did get
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Speaker 2: Mendela Barnes to drop out by planning a negative story
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Speaker 2: on him. They still have kel De Roy's in, but
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Speaker 2: nobody's paying any attention to her, and then there's Crowley.
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Speaker 2: So for the last several weeks, the Evers team has
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Speaker 2: been dropping negative stories and unearthing all of the opposition
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Speaker 2: research that they had on haung In desperately trying to
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Speaker 2: stop her. Some believe that some of this stuff is
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Speaker 2: coming from the Republicans. No, it's not. These unearthed tweets
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Speaker 2: canceled Thanksgiving. I'm sitting there and oh my god, I'm
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Speaker 2: scared to death the white people. I'm sitting there in
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Speaker 2: Black River Falls and these old white people are staring
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Speaker 2: at me and making me very very uncomfortable. Where do
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Speaker 2: you think all that stuff was found? It was found
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Speaker 2: by Democrats. The Republicans would rather run against hang than
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Speaker 2: anybody else because she's their best chance of wedding. If
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Speaker 2: it's Crowley versus tiffany best case for Tiffany fifty fifty
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Speaker 2: chance of witting. It's expected to be a big national
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Speaker 2: Democrat year. The one chance the Republicans have is if
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Speaker 2: the Democrats put up somebody so radical, so unaccomplished, and
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Speaker 2: so frankly stupid that voters feel the need to vote
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Speaker 2: for a Republican even if the national tide is Democratic.
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Speaker 2: So this stuff's not coming to the Republicans. It's coming
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Speaker 2: from Democrats. But again too late. Next on this the
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Speaker 2: lack of vetting. I talk a lot about vetting. Ve
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Speaker 2: E T T I n G. Who normally does vetting well.
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Speaker 2: First of all, the other opposition candidates vet out their opponents.
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Speaker 2: It's called opposition research. I got my hands, you know.
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Speaker 2: And they're very, very free with leaking this stuff around
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Speaker 2: all over the place, back in twenty twenty two, the
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Speaker 2: opposition research on Becky Clayfish and the opposition research on
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Speaker 2: Tim Michaels. There won't anything much bad in there at all,
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Speaker 2: other the things that was already out there. But the
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Speaker 2: other candidates say, look into every single thing into the
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Speaker 2: individual's lives, hoping to find something. Well, I think clearly
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Speaker 2: that was done or maybe not. I mean, when you
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Speaker 2: see how incompetent Sarah Rodriguez's campaign was maybe she didn't
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Speaker 2: have people out there digging up all the dirt and
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Speaker 2: finding all these tweets from Francesca had But normally that's
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Speaker 2: where it's done. Usually the Democratic Party does this, the
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Speaker 2: Republican Party does this. The Republican Party, for example, did
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Speaker 2: massive background checks on Tom Tiffany, their candidate, because they
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Speaker 2: want to make sure there's not something in there that's
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Speaker 2: so embarrassing that's gonna screw him up. But who else
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Speaker 2: does the vetting? The media? The media where for the
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Speaker 2: last six months has the state wide news media ben
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Speaker 2: in not finding out a how radical hang is, b
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Speaker 2: reporting the platform of the group that she's a member
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Speaker 2: of the DSA, or for that matter, thirdly going into
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Speaker 2: her flop business, or all these tweets in these bizarro
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Speaker 2: points of view. Specific example, it was reported late last week.
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Speaker 2: I don't even know who came up with it first,
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Speaker 2: but I saw it first from Dan O'Donnell, but I
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Speaker 2: think Dan picked it up from somebody else. I don't
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Speaker 2: want to give improper credit here. I don't know who
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Speaker 2: originated it, but again I believe it came from Democrats
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Speaker 2: themselves and that way. They were the ones they planted
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Speaker 2: and they got out there. The deputy campaign manager for
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Speaker 2: Francesca Hang is a porn star. It's a porn star.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 2: I've heard from Democrats about this over the weekend and
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Speaker 2: they're they're they're like in shock over this, thinking how
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Speaker 2: much more is there to come? But here's the thing.
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Speaker 2: Everybody in Madison knows who she is. She's kind of
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Speaker 2: met a Madison hang around in Democratic politics, and she
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Speaker 2: was a panost Pet of the Month. She's done soft
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Speaker 2: core porn type stuff. She's even put herself out there
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Speaker 2: as a spokesperson for sex workers. What's a sex worker?
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Speaker 2: So far as I know, a sex worker is either
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Speaker 2: a hooker or porn star. A stripper maybe includes the
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Speaker 2: only fans, people who just get on a video and
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Speaker 2: sit there naked and talk dirty to pathetic people who
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Speaker 2: hand out their money to look at somebody on a screen.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there may be stupid things that I spend
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Speaker 2: my money on. I just cannot fathom doing that. I
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Speaker 2: just can't fathom doing it. First of all, I don't
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Speaker 2: want to talk to most women as it is. I
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Speaker 2: mean I don't I mean the number of women that
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Speaker 2: I want to talk to. Is a very very narrow
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Speaker 2: window of people smart, funny, nice and attractive that knocks
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Speaker 2: out ninety nine percent of them, right, that doesn't it, Michael,
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Speaker 2: I have Dave Michael's in there for some reason, we
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Speaker 2: don't have Jason because of some sort of flip flopping
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Speaker 2: going on or something or other. It has something to do
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Speaker 2: with ben Yont not being here, right, yeah, because ben
24:23
Speaker 2: yt isn't here, he's on a listener trip. There's all
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Speaker 2: sorts of things that dominoes who fall over, and somehow
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Speaker 2: Dave Michael's lands in here as he often does. And
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Speaker 2: so anyway, he's a porn stuff as of my recording time.
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Speaker 2: And again, unlike back when I was on the radio,
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Speaker 2: when it was obvious when I was doing the show,
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Speaker 2: because most people were listening live, I needed the podcast
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Speaker 2: to tell you what I'm doing the podcast because many
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Speaker 2: of you are listening later and people may say, well,
24:55
Speaker 2: Mark said something, but that's not true. As of the
24:58
Speaker 2: time I recorded the podcast, there has been nothing on
25:00
Speaker 2: JS online or most other mainstream media news outlets over
25:04
Speaker 2: the fact that for Cesca Hanks, deputy campaign manager, is
25:06
Speaker 2: a porn star. Now, if this story is out there,
25:09
Speaker 2: but the time you hear it again as of the
25:11
Speaker 2: time that I did the podcast, it wasn't so. I
25:14
Speaker 2: sent an email to the editor of JS Online Milwaukee
25:18
Speaker 2: Journal Sentinel, and that's also, of course, the Gunett papers,
25:20
Speaker 2: who control most of the newspapers in eastern Wisconsin, about
25:25
Speaker 2: what seems to me to be an obvious inconsistency. One
25:28
Speaker 2: year ago, Bill Burrion was running announced he was going
25:34
Speaker 2: to run for the Republican nomination for governor. He's going
25:36
Speaker 2: to run against Tiffany and the media found out that
25:43
Speaker 2: Burion on social media, I think it was Instagram, but
25:46
Speaker 2: I don't remember for sure, followed a porn star. Burrion's defenses,
25:53
Speaker 2: I follow a lot of people. They plasted that Bill
25:59
Speaker 2: Buryon is a follower of this porn star on social media.
26:04
Speaker 2: A couple of other porn websites that he followed as well.
26:09
Speaker 2: All he did was following Berryan himself. Wasn't Berrian didn't
26:13
Speaker 2: hire anybody. He was simply a follower on social media
26:16
Speaker 2: in the same way that I might follow what I
26:20
Speaker 2: follow Scott Epiffin, you can follow any number of people.
26:27
Speaker 2: That's miriencing. I follow lots of people who might have
26:29
Speaker 2: interesting things to say, don't mean I agree with it anyway.
26:32
Speaker 2: That's a huge story. But Hang actually not only it
26:37
Speaker 2: is paying hired to help run her campaign. A porn
26:41
Speaker 2: star buryan sing is news, but Hang's isn't. But see,
26:48
Speaker 2: that's part of the lack of betting. Even when the
26:51
Speaker 2: news media has found out about some of the things
26:55
Speaker 2: that show what a fringe, lunatic and toxic figure Hang is,
26:59
Speaker 2: they choose not to report it. This is like anti vetting.
27:05
Speaker 2: Vetting is you dig into and try to find out.
27:07
Speaker 2: This is look the other way so you don't see.
27:12
Speaker 2: I talk about how the term comes from horse racing.
27:14
Speaker 2: We think before you buy a horse, you have a
27:17
Speaker 2: veterinarian check out every possible thing in the horse. The
27:21
Speaker 2: X rays, the radiographs, take a look over this, they
27:23
Speaker 2: palpate the horse. You look for any kind of a
27:25
Speaker 2: physical problem. Doesn't mean you don't buy the horse, but
27:27
Speaker 2: you certainly have to know about this. It's like before
27:31
Speaker 2: I buy a used car, they always say, have a
27:32
Speaker 2: mechanic check it out. I don't even know how you
27:34
Speaker 2: do that anymore unless the car is really old. I
27:38
Speaker 2: mean you have to have a computer hooked up to
27:39
Speaker 2: the thing to find out anything anyway vetting. This would
27:46
Speaker 2: be like if we were going to buy a horse,
27:47
Speaker 2: and instead of hiring a vet, we said, don't tell
27:52
Speaker 2: us a dog gone thing about the horse. We don't
27:54
Speaker 2: even want to look at it, just send it out
27:55
Speaker 2: over here. It's anti vetting. Now, we know that a
28:02
Speaker 2: lot of people try to avoid looking at all sorts
28:04
Speaker 2: of things. Some people, for example, don't like to think
28:06
Speaker 2: about death because they're terribletive death. That's what's going on
28:13
Speaker 2: with Hawk. They didn't want to look into any of
28:15
Speaker 2: it for fear of what they'd find. Why did they
28:17
Speaker 2: fit Well, we know she's a part of the DSA,
28:21
Speaker 2: So if we look at anything she's ever said, probably
28:23
Speaker 2: we're gonna see all sorts of extremist things. We know
28:26
Speaker 2: she's kind of weird. We know she went bankrupt, We
28:36
Speaker 2: know she didn't pay her credit card bills, that she
28:39
Speaker 2: own a credit card company kens of thousands of dollars.
28:44
Speaker 2: We already know all of that stuff. We better not
28:46
Speaker 2: look over here. We might find out other stuff that
28:49
Speaker 2: would disqualify her. So rather than look for that, which
28:54
Speaker 2: I think in the long run helps the Democrats to
28:56
Speaker 2: prevent them to putting up a potential sir, none of
29:05
Speaker 2: that happened. Now, over the last several days, Hang has
29:13
Speaker 2: been on a national media tour. For those of you
29:16
Speaker 2: who don't pay much attention to the national media, everybody
29:19
Speaker 2: in America follows politics now knows the Francesca Hang is.
29:22
Speaker 2: Everybody from Bill Maher and all the anchors on all
29:24
Speaker 2: the cable channels, the Washington Post to Wallston. You can
29:26
Speaker 2: know they're all talking about her because they're all in shock.
29:30
Speaker 2: But the Marxist, who not only is Marxist, has numerous
29:34
Speaker 2: fringe oddball out of societal norm beliefs. For instance, I
29:39
Speaker 2: don't know if there's anything in the Marxist playbook that
29:42
Speaker 2: says you have to hate Thanksgiving. I get that these
29:44
Speaker 2: are generally unhappy people and they don't like anything that
29:47
Speaker 2: would be positive about America, but for Heaven's sakes, Thanksgiving
29:50
Speaker 2: that was started one hundred years before there was in
29:52
Speaker 2: America more than that and this other stuff. My take
30:14
Speaker 2: on Hang now that she has been out there being
30:17
Speaker 2: trodded around, and I understand why they trodded around. Of
30:19
Speaker 2: the national media, they're trotting her around even though the
30:23
Speaker 2: primary hasn't yet occurred, because they're already spiking the football.
30:28
Speaker 2: When the last Marquete lawpool came out, they showed her
30:31
Speaker 2: head by twenty two points and the second place candidate
30:34
Speaker 2: had already dropped out of the race, Mandela Barnes. If
30:36
Speaker 2: it is over, so we're already beginning the general election campaign.
30:41
Speaker 2: So let's do the pivot. And I'm sure they told
30:44
Speaker 2: Franny you got a pivot. Here's the pivot. All this
30:47
Speaker 2: marks the stuff that you believe, you know, tone it
30:50
Speaker 2: down and try to sound more reasonable in the general election.
30:54
Speaker 2: The master of the pivot is mill Clinton. Nobody's ever
30:56
Speaker 2: been better at it. They even had a term for
30:58
Speaker 2: it called Triangulationville invented before Carville's being suffered from dementia.
31:03
Speaker 2: Carvil may have it. I mean Carvil's always looked like
31:05
Speaker 2: he said, dementia. You listen to him talk right now,
31:07
Speaker 2: it just seems a parrot to me. They came up
31:11
Speaker 2: with this concept of triangulation, which is the ability to
31:13
Speaker 2: be on both sides of an issue, very very good
31:17
Speaker 2: at it. Part of it involves pivoting, say one thing
31:22
Speaker 2: before a primary while the primary is going on, and
31:24
Speaker 2: see a totally different thing at a general election. So
31:26
Speaker 2: they had hang go out there and to do the pivot,
31:29
Speaker 2: except I think she's not smart enough to be able
31:34
Speaker 2: to pivot. Here's somebody who has all these lefty beliefs.
31:37
Speaker 2: Because she has all these lefty beliefs, and the lefties
31:39
Speaker 2: that she followed had these lefty beliefs, she's like a
31:41
Speaker 2: sponge for Marxism. All the stuff goes in, and then
31:45
Speaker 2: when you squeeze her like a sponge, the Marxism starts
31:47
Speaker 2: oozing on. Marxism here, Marxism there. It's very hard to
31:51
Speaker 2: take somebody who isn't that bright to get her to
31:55
Speaker 2: say things other than what's been drilled into her mushy head.
32:01
Speaker 2: So they get on it, and she's on one of
32:02
Speaker 2: the shows I think this was the one that they
32:04
Speaker 2: with Nanna Parrito when they ask her about the Thanksgiving thing,
32:08
Speaker 2: and she doesn't really disavow her call to ban Thanksgiving. Well,
32:12
Speaker 2: I made Thanksgiving dinner once, but then well, I'm sort
32:15
Speaker 2: of a curmudgeon. And you have to understand that there
32:17
Speaker 2: are still lots of people who suffer badly on Thanksgiving.
32:21
Speaker 2: Who who suffers that thing? There may be some people
32:26
Speaker 2: who don't do anything about Thanksgiving, or they may be
32:29
Speaker 2: some lonely people, but they're just as lonely as they'd
32:32
Speaker 2: be the Black Friday the day after suffer that. In
32:42
Speaker 2: her statement, you know she's the DSA has called for
32:45
Speaker 2: abolishing the Senate. She herself posted on I believe it
32:49
Speaker 2: was Twitter still twenty twenty one. Abolish the Senate, that's
32:53
Speaker 2: what she posted. Wollish you said it. She says, we'll
32:56
Speaker 2: be ridiculous to say abolished the Senate because you can't
32:58
Speaker 2: abolish the Senate. That's not exactly a very good pivot.
33:09
Speaker 2: Defund the police, defund the police, defund the police, defund
33:11
Speaker 2: the police, or pivot is well, I don't have any
33:13
Speaker 2: ability as the governor defund the police. That's not much
33:21
Speaker 2: of a pivot. I mean. The closest thing I can
33:26
Speaker 2: equate that to is the problem that conservatives have now
33:28
Speaker 2: on the abortion issue, in which the right to life
33:31
Speaker 2: position is not politically popular and indeed, I don't have
33:36
Speaker 2: the ability to stop abortion has been the position of
33:40
Speaker 2: a fair number of Republicans, and it's true anymore that
33:46
Speaker 2: there isn't much of anything that you can do to
33:48
Speaker 2: stop abortion, and the whole abortion pill thing has made
33:50
Speaker 2: the abortion debate rather irrelevant. Sadly, but everyone knows they
33:58
Speaker 2: didn't change the position. She needs to change her position
34:01
Speaker 2: on abolishing the Senate. She needs to change her position
34:04
Speaker 2: and defending the police, because the overwhelming majority of voters,
34:08
Speaker 2: including Democrats, don't want it to fund the police and
34:10
Speaker 2: don't want to abolish the Senate. It's actually kind of
34:13
Speaker 2: weird that that actually is a lefty position. I'm not
34:21
Speaker 2: even sure necessarily why abolishing the Senate would be a
34:24
Speaker 2: conservative or a liberal position one way or another other
34:27
Speaker 2: than they want to get. Essentially, they want to get
34:30
Speaker 2: to a dictator. What happens in commonist countries is the
34:32
Speaker 2: legislative branch is essentially knocked out of the box and
34:36
Speaker 2: you just have one strong man who never stands for
34:38
Speaker 2: re election again, and they serve for the Venezuelan example,
34:41
Speaker 2: the Russian example, and so on. Anyway, the lack of accomplishment,
34:56
Speaker 2: particularly for non ideological voters, one of the things that
35:01
Speaker 2: you look for in sizing up whether or not someone
35:03
Speaker 2: should be your president, your governor, or your mayor. What
35:10
Speaker 2: have they done? Have they shown the ability to run
35:13
Speaker 2: something like this. I'm going to make the case that
35:20
Speaker 2: there has never been a candidate for governor in the
35:23
Speaker 2: history of the state of Wisconsin who has done less
35:25
Speaker 2: than Francesca Hag When I say candidate, I mean a nominee.
35:28
Speaker 2: This is assuming she wins the primary tomorrow. Maybe she
35:31
Speaker 2: does it. Maybe somehow there's this last minute panic by
35:33
Speaker 2: the Democrats, especially from Old State, and they vote for Crawley.
35:36
Speaker 2: I just don't see it, but maybe it happens. So
35:41
Speaker 2: if she wins, there has never been a less accomplished
35:46
Speaker 2: candidate for governor of one of the two major political
35:48
Speaker 2: parties in Wisconsin. I'll even go back to when the
35:51
Speaker 2: Progressives and the Lafallets were around in the history of
35:54
Speaker 2: the state. How could there be She's run one thing
35:59
Speaker 2: in her life. If a Raymond noodle shop that she
36:01
Speaker 2: ran with her then then husband now ex husband, it
36:04
Speaker 2: went under by the way, she ran a Raymond noodle
36:09
Speaker 2: shop in matt I guess they just call it Raymond
36:12
Speaker 2: now rather than Raymond Noodles, right, Ramen, Ramen, I mean,
36:17
Speaker 2: all I know about that is they used to sell
36:19
Speaker 2: that stuff for like seventy nine cents in the grocery store.
36:22
Speaker 2: And it looked like a rice patty, That's what it
36:24
Speaker 2: looked like. It looked at me like someone that was
36:26
Speaker 2: even cheaper than cuppa soup. Remember cup of soup. I
36:29
Speaker 2: actually think that ramen was more expensive than the cup
36:32
Speaker 2: of soup barely, but they were like the same thing,
36:37
Speaker 2: three for eighty eight cents of there in college. How
36:41
Speaker 2: that became high cuisine, I don't know anyway you would
36:47
Speaker 2: think of all the places in the planet that you
36:50
Speaker 2: might be able to make a go of that, Madison A.
36:52
Speaker 2: It just seems like a lefty thing. B Lefties are cheap. See,
36:57
Speaker 2: there's tens of thousands of students there who see what
36:59
Speaker 2: seem to me like the kind of people that would
37:01
Speaker 2: eat that. Now, one of the reasons it didn't go
37:04
Speaker 2: under is she's a communist and she had these beliefs
37:06
Speaker 2: that service workers are underpaid. So she paid her staff
37:09
Speaker 2: in incredible high wages for working at a little dinky restaurant. Well,
37:14
Speaker 2: of course she went under because in order to pay
37:17
Speaker 2: those salaries, you have to charge a fortune for the ramen,
37:19
Speaker 2: and the whole point of rahmen is not to pay
37:22
Speaker 2: anything for your food. Well, that was the end of
37:25
Speaker 2: her career. So she ran for the legislature, which is
37:29
Speaker 2: a pretty good paying gig. She ran as a radical
37:32
Speaker 2: nut from a radical nut district. She represents downtown Madison,
37:37
Speaker 2: which is the nuttiest place in the state of Wisconsin.
37:42
Speaker 2: And to supplement that very good income. They make a
37:45
Speaker 2: decent amount of money for a part time job and
37:48
Speaker 2: get massive benefits. She even gets a half per diem
37:52
Speaker 2: even though she lives in Madison. In fact, she could
37:56
Speaker 2: somersault her way to the capitol and they get her
37:58
Speaker 2: half an expense. It just sweetheart deal. She works as
38:01
Speaker 2: a bartender to make ends, meat, whatever way she needs
38:05
Speaker 2: to make ends meet. The ex husband is out of
38:08
Speaker 2: the way. There's a kid in there. She refers to
38:11
Speaker 2: her kid. The ex husband was white. She refers to
38:13
Speaker 2: her kid as her way of keeping in touch with whiteness.
38:16
Speaker 2: Can you imagine someone referring to their child as that
38:20
Speaker 2: child's part white. So that's my way of keeping in
38:22
Speaker 2: touch with whiteness. Is my child, as did a white
38:26
Speaker 2: woman who had a child with an African American father.
38:29
Speaker 2: This is how I keep in touch with blackness. My kid.
38:42
Speaker 2: As I say, all of this has caught the attention
38:44
Speaker 2: now of the national media. The Washington Post ran an
38:51
Speaker 2: editorial over the weekend, The Washington Post Now in fairness.
38:55
Speaker 2: The Washington Post editorial page is not overtly lefty anymore.
39:00
Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos, the owner of Amazon, took it over several
39:06
Speaker 2: years ago, and about a year ago he redirected the
39:08
Speaker 2: editorial page away from the radicalism and wants to have
39:11
Speaker 2: a centrist editorial page. This is the editorial that appeared,
39:16
Speaker 2: and it's under the it's unsigned, just simply editorial board
39:20
Speaker 2: headline Wisconsin taxpayers will flee off Francesca Hang becomes governor.
39:24
Speaker 2: Now I'm not gotten into the substantive stuff with this
39:27
Speaker 2: yet after the primary, presuming she wins, we'll get into that.
39:30
Speaker 2: But this is addressing what I consider to be an
39:34
Speaker 2: existential threat with these states that already are rather blue
39:38
Speaker 2: New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, Drastic Illinois, drastically raising taxes.
39:46
Speaker 2: All of those states that I just mentioned are seeing
39:48
Speaker 2: significant population outflows. Outflows obviously portion of it as climate. A
39:59
Speaker 2: big part is that opportunity which is going to get
40:01
Speaker 2: even more pronounced if none of the data centers are
40:04
Speaker 2: located in those states. If all the data centers are
40:06
Speaker 2: down south, that means all the jobs and all the
40:10
Speaker 2: ripple effect economically that occurs because of the data centers
40:13
Speaker 2: will occur there. But the cost of living is unbearable
40:20
Speaker 2: in those states. It's just remarkable that you have radicals
40:25
Speaker 2: that are running on the basis that the high cost
40:27
Speaker 2: of living when the places that they run have the
40:31
Speaker 2: highest cost of living primarily because of the massive taxes
40:34
Speaker 2: that they have in place, especially for people of higher incomes.
40:40
Speaker 2: So what we've seen happening, and I'm gonna get you
40:42
Speaker 2: to the editoilet a moment, what we've seen happening is
40:45
Speaker 2: massive flights of capital. Illinois is a perfect example of this.
40:49
Speaker 2: Ken Griffins Citadel Investments. He pulled the whole company out
40:52
Speaker 2: of Chicago and took it to Florida. That means not
40:55
Speaker 2: only are all of the corporate taxes now paid in Florida,
40:59
Speaker 2: the people who run it, an and Ken B. Griffin
41:01
Speaker 2: is a billionaires, one of the richest guys in the world.
41:04
Speaker 2: All of his income taxes are in Florida, which doesn't
41:07
Speaker 2: have an income tax. You Illinois gets none of that.
41:09
Speaker 2: So the high taxes in the state of Illinois result
41:12
Speaker 2: result in them getting zero taxes for that company. Multiply
41:16
Speaker 2: this across the board. The Washington Post is pointing out
41:20
Speaker 2: that Wisconsin is going to be economically crucified if Haun
41:24
Speaker 2: gets in and imposes her taxes, because all of the
41:27
Speaker 2: money will leave, they write. Francesco Hang, the front runner
41:31
Speaker 2: in Tuesday's Democratic primary for Wisconsin governor, has made squeezing
41:35
Speaker 2: high earners a central theme in her campaign. Like most socialists,
41:38
Speaker 2: she is in denial about the costs and one sequences
41:42
Speaker 2: of her proposal cost and rather consequences of her proposals
41:46
Speaker 2: to fund quote free childcare, state run grocery stores, and
41:49
Speaker 2: more healthcare subsidies, among other social spending. The thirty seven
41:53
Speaker 2: year old state legislator plans to raise state income taxes
41:56
Speaker 2: a full percentage point on couples making at least four
41:59
Speaker 2: hundred thirty one thousand dollars a year. In individuals making
42:01
Speaker 2: more than three hundred and twenty three thousand, she would
42:04
Speaker 2: levy another one percent on millionaires in large corporations, bringing
42:07
Speaker 2: the state top tax rate to almost nine percent. This
42:11
Speaker 2: might sound fine to a taxpayer who doesn't make a
42:14
Speaker 2: million dollars in Wisconsin, like every other state, relies on
42:18
Speaker 2: wealthy taxpayers to support state infrastructure, public schools, and social programs.
42:24
Speaker 2: The top five percent of earners pay about forty percent
42:26
Speaker 2: of Wisconsin's net income taxes. Right, it's similar at the
42:31
Speaker 2: federal level. This is me now not to watch it. It
42:33
Speaker 2: posed forty percent of the income taxes in Wisconsin come
42:39
Speaker 2: from the top five percent. Now there's a couple of
42:44
Speaker 2: reasons for that. There are all the state income tax
42:48
Speaker 2: return largely uses the template of the federal meaning a
42:51
Speaker 2: lot of the deductions that are in place in the
42:53
Speaker 2: federal apply to the state, not all, some, but some.
42:57
Speaker 2: But secondly, we do have some disparity of wealth in
43:01
Speaker 2: our society. So you have some people who are making
43:05
Speaker 2: tons and tons and tons and tons. Since they're taxed
43:09
Speaker 2: at that same rate, you just get so much more
43:14
Speaker 2: from them. Thus, as I say, as they say, forty
43:17
Speaker 2: percent of the state income taxes are paid by the
43:19
Speaker 2: top five percent. Now, the point that they're going to
43:22
Speaker 2: get to is imagine if some of that top five
43:24
Speaker 2: percents start leaving, the hit that you take on income
43:29
Speaker 2: taxes is enormous. Back to the piece at a primary
43:33
Speaker 2: debate last week. Now this appeared over the weekend, so
43:35
Speaker 2: I guess it'd be two weeks ago. Moderators posed a
43:37
Speaker 2: fair question, what if all the millionaires leave the state?
43:40
Speaker 2: Hong responded, you know, uh, discussing that hypothetical is a
43:46
Speaker 2: little bit uh, I'm confused about that. Now, this is
43:50
Speaker 2: the debate that Channel twelve brand. I don't know how
43:54
Speaker 2: many people saw it, but I did my analysis after
43:56
Speaker 2: the debate, at which I describe her as a more
44:01
Speaker 2: radical Kamala Harris. Kamala will go on and on and
44:05
Speaker 2: on without answering anything. Hank's answers are shorter. Her question
44:11
Speaker 2: about will millionaires leave this and she said I'm confused
44:14
Speaker 2: about that. I actually think she was telling the truth.
44:19
Speaker 2: Kamala isn't real sharp, but in the case of Hong,
44:23
Speaker 2: I just think that she's never thought about any of
44:26
Speaker 2: these things. She just accepted the whole socialist message. Many
44:29
Speaker 2: liberals have never understood this point that capital will moved
44:36
Speaker 2: to its area of least taxation. And when we talk
44:40
Speaker 2: forever about why all of these rich people end up
44:42
Speaker 2: moving to Florida and are obsessed with making it their
44:45
Speaker 2: year long residents live there more than six months in
44:48
Speaker 2: a day, and so on, Oh, nobody's gonna do that
44:50
Speaker 2: to avoid taxes. The people that don't pay a lot
44:53
Speaker 2: of taxes just can't fathom that would go on. I
44:56
Speaker 2: wonder is Francesca Honks so stupid that she's I ever
45:00
Speaker 2: even heard this argument. This has been the debate forever.
45:02
Speaker 2: If you keep raising taxes, will you drive away the
45:06
Speaker 2: people who pay taxes? You know, it's the whole supply
45:09
Speaker 2: side argument that Reagan had. If you lower tax rates,
45:12
Speaker 2: you're going to get more in tax revenul because now
45:14
Speaker 2: people will try to make even more money than they have.
45:17
Speaker 2: They'll stop trying to shelter and hide it because they
45:20
Speaker 2: don't they get to keep more of it. Twenty percent
45:24
Speaker 2: of a lot is more than thirty percent of a little.
45:28
Speaker 2: But she said, I'm confused. I wonder if she's ever
45:31
Speaker 2: even had the question put to her. Are they putting
45:33
Speaker 2: up for governor A candidates so dense that she's not
45:39
Speaker 2: been exposed to the argument? What she clearly didn't do
45:42
Speaker 2: is explain why this wouldn't happen, because, as she said
45:46
Speaker 2: in the debate, I'm confused by that. Back to the
45:48
Speaker 2: Washington Post, she went on to say that millionaires would
45:52
Speaker 2: be able to live, work and thrive because of her
45:54
Speaker 2: other policies, but high owners in wiscond In America's dairy
45:58
Speaker 2: land will take only so much badgering before they relocate.
46:02
Speaker 2: Wisconsin already has the second highest top income tax rate
46:05
Speaker 2: in the Midwest, trailing on in Minnesota's nine point eighty
46:08
Speaker 2: five percent, and Wisconsin businesses faced the third highest rate
46:12
Speaker 2: in the region, behind Minnesota and Illinois. When businesses leave,
46:16
Speaker 2: they take with them not only tax revenue but also
46:19
Speaker 2: jobs and investment. For now, Wisconsin's population it's holding steady,
46:24
Speaker 2: but last year each of its bordering neighbors, especially in
46:26
Speaker 2: Minnesota and Illinois, saw more people move out than in
46:30
Speaker 2: Levi interject. I talked about this inflow outflow situation. Wisconsin's
46:36
Speaker 2: a swing state, but half are elected officials of Republicans,
46:40
Speaker 2: half are Democrats. Minnesota and Illinois are overwhelmingly both Democratic states.
46:49
Speaker 2: In Minnesota, everything's a Democrat, both houses of the state legislature,
46:52
Speaker 2: of the governor, both of the United States Senators, and
46:55
Speaker 2: so on. Same thing with Illinois. So the situation is
46:59
Speaker 2: worse in those two states, and not surprisingly, tremendous outflow
47:03
Speaker 2: of population, even with all the illegal immigrants moving into California.
47:08
Speaker 2: California is in outflow state. New York State's in outflow state.
47:11
Speaker 2: You see an outflow state where there's a big there's
47:14
Speaker 2: a larger number of people leaving than coming in, being
47:17
Speaker 2: bored and coming in and leaving and dying. Where you're
47:21
Speaker 2: an outflow state, it's always an overwhelming the democratic state.
47:26
Speaker 2: So the point that they're making here is we lag
47:28
Speaker 2: behind those two alone, and obviously, to me, if Haan
47:33
Speaker 2: comes in far more radical than either Minnesota or Illinois have,
47:38
Speaker 2: the exodus would be even greater. Continuing, this is far
47:41
Speaker 2: from the only knock on Hauan's readiness to govern a
47:44
Speaker 2: major state. She campaigned last weekend with far left streamer
47:47
Speaker 2: Hassan Piker, who is called Hamas a thousand times better
47:51
Speaker 2: than Israel and said America deserved nine to eleven. Now
47:54
Speaker 2: let me interject here. One of the things that I've
47:57
Speaker 2: noticed here about this whole pivot with Haan is it's
47:59
Speaker 2: not my a pivot. Now, remember, her campaign is not
48:02
Speaker 2: run by pragmatist Democrats. They're run by Marxist like her.
48:06
Speaker 2: Her deputy campaign managers a porn star, so they don't
48:10
Speaker 2: know how to pivot. Who did she campaign with five
48:13
Speaker 2: days ago, elan Omar, not like Dick Durbin. Ilan Omar.
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Speaker 2: She went on Hassan Piker's podcast, Hassan Piker is to
48:35
Speaker 2: the left of the Castros of Cuba. We deserve nine
48:39
Speaker 2: to eleven. You'd think that that would be something that
48:41
Speaker 2: any candidate now in the mainstream would try to run
48:43
Speaker 2: away from. She's joined at the hip with Hassan Piker
48:47
Speaker 2: back to the editil. But Hang's bad economic ideas should
48:50
Speaker 2: also matter to Wisconsin voters. Recent elections seem to suggest
48:54
Speaker 2: that Democratic voters no longer fear labels such as socialists
48:57
Speaker 2: that are more interested in carrying down the parties establishment.
49:00
Speaker 2: A better strategy to combat extreme policies is to explain
49:04
Speaker 2: the tax damage tax damage will be caused. In the meantime,
49:07
Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal today Andy Kessler's their Monday columnist.
49:13
Speaker 2: He's trying, and I've been on this again for Buds,
49:16
Speaker 2: that the conservative movement needs to be pointing out to
49:19
Speaker 2: America that our entire country's way of life and way
49:23
Speaker 2: of being is threatened if we stop being a capitalist
49:25
Speaker 2: nation and instead become a communist nation. So what Kesser
49:29
Speaker 2: does in his piece, which obviously is centered over the
49:31
Speaker 2: threat from Haing and also, to a lesser extent, the
49:34
Speaker 2: radical who's been nominated by the Democrats in Michigan to
49:37
Speaker 2: be the United States Senator under the headline Viva la
49:41
Speaker 2: dsa revolution Socialism is the cool new way to get elected.
49:47
Speaker 2: The mantra is effective, Oh, we just want more affordable housing,
49:51
Speaker 2: and then simply whisper suite. Nothing's like free buses, cheap
49:55
Speaker 2: groceries and frozen rent into the ears of young, naive,
49:59
Speaker 2: economic illiterate free riding over deegreed, underpaid, at least compared
50:05
Speaker 2: with their high self regarded voters who think, surely the
50:09
Speaker 2: socialist central planners will appreciate my kalids. It works, they
50:14
Speaker 2: get the votes. Better to listen to what they say
50:19
Speaker 2: and watch what they do. The Democratic Socialism America states quote.
50:23
Speaker 2: Complete victory will require building a new society from the
50:27
Speaker 2: ground up. This is their goal, no matter how much
50:30
Speaker 2: lipstick they put on their piggy ideology with slogans like
50:34
Speaker 2: less rent, more control, and workers deserve more. As history shows,
50:40
Speaker 2: socialism is no way to govern without carnage, bankruptcies, crashes,
50:45
Speaker 2: and inevitable unrest when free buses stop running from lack
50:50
Speaker 2: of funds at upkeep. Perversely, those who ruined our education
50:56
Speaker 2: system are being rewarded so they can ruin the rest
50:59
Speaker 2: of the economy. How the DSA website plans for quote
51:03
Speaker 2: a future without capitalism in which you can quote work
51:07
Speaker 2: as much as you are able, and no more than needed.
51:11
Speaker 2: It's almost as if Karl Marx came back and used
51:14
Speaker 2: chat GPT to summarize his quote according to his needs. Nonsense.
51:21
Speaker 2: Democratic socialism is a worse oxymoron than original copy. Sure
51:26
Speaker 2: it's the trendy new thing, but mostly fertilizer for the
51:30
Speaker 2: feeble minded. New York mayor Zoron Mamdani seems infected with
51:35
Speaker 2: political cyclospora, exploding diet tribes that leave you empty, tax
51:41
Speaker 2: the rich afford the basic dignities of life. Zohmart would
51:46
Speaker 2: be great branding for New York City's run grocery store,
51:49
Speaker 2: though they're doomed to fail. The mayor says they'll have
51:52
Speaker 2: thirty percent discounts unquote a core basket of goods. Did
51:56
Speaker 2: he even take econ one O one? Discovery is critical,
52:01
Speaker 2: else you get hoarding shortages and bare shelves, or worse
52:05
Speaker 2: La la breta rationeting cards like Cuba. This has all
52:09
Speaker 2: been pried before. You're a mayor, dude. Senator John Fetterman
52:13
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania said on Newsmax, Pick up the trash, fix some potholes.
52:17
Speaker 2: No fun in that. Viva lo revalusiad the movement's promises
52:22
Speaker 2: go downhill from there during a chevalier. Dara Lisa is
52:31
Speaker 2: running for Congress, endorsed by Mamdani. She wrote in a
52:34
Speaker 2: single deleted tweet, no more police at all. Ever, she
52:39
Speaker 2: wrote to CNN that her tweets don't reflect what she
52:42
Speaker 2: is today. She's thirty two. The dssays abolition Working Group's
52:47
Speaker 2: websites as they planned to quote defund the police by
52:51
Speaker 2: rejecting any expansion to plice to police budgets or scope
52:55
Speaker 2: of enforcement, while cutting budgets annually towards zero. Yeah, that's ever,
53:01
Speaker 2: Bye bye order. I lived in Manhattan. This is Kessler
53:04
Speaker 2: under policing deficient Mayor David Dinkins. I foolishly bought a
53:09
Speaker 2: brand new Toyota four rudder. It was stolen within thirty
53:12
Speaker 2: six hours by a mistake. I then bought a used
53:15
Speaker 2: filing cabin, a gray Honda Accord no one would ever steal,
53:19
Speaker 2: but it was busted into every weekend, likely back crackheads,
53:23
Speaker 2: no police insight, windows, smashed, the key cylinders for the
53:26
Speaker 2: passenger door, and trunk pride opened I had to use
53:30
Speaker 2: the trunk opener inside the glove compartment, which of course
53:32
Speaker 2: had been jimmied open and I kept closed with duct tape.
53:36
Speaker 2: I soon moved to Connecticut. Rudy Giuliani eventually cleaned up
53:39
Speaker 2: New York. Hollywood director Steven Spielberg moved to New York
53:42
Speaker 2: as of January first, likely to escape the potential billionaire
53:46
Speaker 2: wealth tax in California. I wonder we're'll move next and
53:49
Speaker 2: at a real life disclosure day, California Representative Rocanna recently
53:53
Speaker 2: said the tax should not stop at billionaires. It must
53:57
Speaker 2: reach cent a millionaires. The access to reach all fortunes
54:01
Speaker 2: fifty million and up. Send more U haul vans to California.
54:05
Speaker 2: Please buck to Mandani, who babbles about paying your fair share,
54:11
Speaker 2: he imposed a petitare tax for non residents and then
54:14
Speaker 2: released a list of almost a million property owners. Brutal.
54:18
Speaker 2: Where would he get that idea? Remember Vladimir Lenin's nineteen
54:22
Speaker 2: eighteen Penza telegram quote. We need to set an example,
54:28
Speaker 2: he wrote, followed by several bullet points. Publish their names
54:34
Speaker 2: with sandwich between hang. No fewer than one hundred of
54:37
Speaker 2: the notorious Coulos, the rich and the bloodsuckers and take
54:43
Speaker 2: all their grain from them. Socialists have no originality. Destruction
54:48
Speaker 2: is infectious. DSA National co chairman Megan Romer told Fox
54:52
Speaker 2: News is Shannon Bream. Her organization wants to abolish the
54:55
Speaker 2: Supreme Court, get rid of the Presidency and Supreme Court,
54:59
Speaker 2: abolish the Senate, get rid of the Presidency and Supreme Court,
55:02
Speaker 2: defund the Pentagon, and nationalize most corporations. Wait, don't you
55:07
Speaker 2: have to burn the right stag first? Still, why don't
55:10
Speaker 2: voters believe? This is beyond crack pots, This is cucko
55:15
Speaker 2: coo territory. Now let me interject. Tesser makes the point,
55:20
Speaker 2: why do the voters not believe that this is what
55:23
Speaker 2: the DSA people will do? And I suspect there's a
55:27
Speaker 2: fair number of Democrats who don't believe, well, ohong won't
55:30
Speaker 2: do that. I've talked to my own program for years
55:34
Speaker 2: to a conservative audience, when I've tried to warn them
55:36
Speaker 2: what some of the lefties who are running for office
55:37
Speaker 2: would do if they begin, and you keep getting oh,
55:39
Speaker 2: they won't do that, they won't do that, they won't
55:41
Speaker 2: do that. There is I suspect to believe that a
55:48
Speaker 2: governor Hank wouldn't do all that, to which I point out,
55:51
Speaker 2: look at the city of Chicago, where Mayor Brandon Johnson
55:54
Speaker 2: has done every single thing he said he would do,
55:58
Speaker 2: and Chicago is dying right in front of us. Back
56:03
Speaker 2: to the piece, socialism is a gateway drug feedomin worries,
56:07
Speaker 2: Democrats are drifting firmly into communism, drifting. Let's ask the
56:11
Speaker 2: horse's mouth. A top DSA leader David Jenkins said the
56:15
Speaker 2: quiet part out loud. Our goal is liberation. Our goal
56:18
Speaker 2: is communism. The socialist candidate for Wisconsin governor who wants
56:23
Speaker 2: to cancel Thanksgiving, Francesca Hank raised money with quote influencer
56:28
Speaker 2: Hassan Piker who likes to dress as chairman. MAO, that's
56:32
Speaker 2: pretty black and white and read all over where is sanity?
56:38
Speaker 2: Andy Kessler Wall Street Journal. Now I'm going to conclude
56:44
Speaker 2: this and move into a second segment. The thing about
56:49
Speaker 2: this stuff with Hawang is much of it now is
56:51
Speaker 2: coming out and being megaphoned by not only me but
56:56
Speaker 2: some in the mainstream media, but mostly the rightist media.
57:00
Speaker 2: Tony Evers and his people putting it out a little,
57:04
Speaker 2: but it's all been out there for anybody to find.
57:06
Speaker 2: The whole time she was running. So if she wins,
57:12
Speaker 2: I'll tell you exactly who I blame. The Democrats, the
57:17
Speaker 2: political party. They're voters. If you put up a communist
57:23
Speaker 2: Revolutionarreya as their candidate, you can't say that we Republicans
57:28
Speaker 2: did it. You did it. And if she wins the
57:35
Speaker 2: general election, the blame will be on the majority of
57:39
Speaker 2: the voters who vote for EDFI. Country crashes and burns
57:45
Speaker 2: under communist ruin, as every society under communism has had
57:49
Speaker 2: seen happen to it, we will have ourselves to blame.
57:53
Speaker 2: But right now we're confronted with all of this, and
57:57
Speaker 2: the Democrats are confronted with this nominee because they chose
58:01
Speaker 2: to do nothing to stop her until the very last minute,
58:06
Speaker 2: whereas I say, too little, too late. Finally, this is
58:09
Speaker 2: it possible she could lose? I mean there's no polling
58:12
Speaker 2: that I know of. The candidates did their own polls.
58:14
Speaker 2: There's been no polling like say, over the weekend. The
58:17
Speaker 2: last poll was the Marquette poll, but it was taken
58:19
Speaker 2: you know, before Mendela Barnes even dropped out. The TV.
58:23
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't turn on TV or cable TV
58:28
Speaker 2: without seeing I mean every we have a corporate executive's
58:31
Speaker 2: in from out of Towny City. He turned to the TV.
58:33
Speaker 2: Every ad that he sees his Hong, either anti Hong
58:35
Speaker 2: or pro Hong. She's all anyone is talking about. And
58:38
Speaker 2: it may well be to a lot of like regular
58:41
Speaker 2: old Democrats that say Manita Walk and old Claire are
58:43
Speaker 2: seeing this end. They're terrified at what they're about to nominate,
58:50
Speaker 2: and there may be this last minute moved to Crowley
58:52
Speaker 2: is the only obvious way of stopping her. I just
58:57
Speaker 2: think it's probably too late because in Wisconsin is we
59:00
Speaker 2: know most people have voted already before the election tomorrow.
59:07
Speaker 2: But if somehow Crowley does pull it out, we'll know
59:09
Speaker 2: that because in the end Ebs and the Democrats were
59:12
Speaker 2: able to get the word out and hang and their
59:14
Speaker 2: voters panic. I just don't see it in the cards.
59:18
Speaker 2: But I've been wrong before. You're listening to the Mark
59:20
Speaker 2: Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling Podcast. Well, I
59:28
Speaker 2: point on, Do I need to point out again what
59:30
Speaker 2: a perfect story is. Perfect story is a one that
59:33
Speaker 2: in and of itself is interesting but raises so many
59:35
Speaker 2: larger points. This is a small one, but nonetheless perfect.
59:40
Speaker 2: We all know the problem one of the problems with
59:44
Speaker 2: the gen Z's yet generation. We used to call the
59:48
Speaker 2: millennials snowflakes. I mean, I didn't even know for and
59:52
Speaker 2: again we're generalizing, meaning you know, there's some gen zs
59:55
Speaker 2: that are individual, independent people, but the overwhelming majority, I
1:00:01
Speaker 2: won't say overwhelming, clearly the majority of them are very
1:00:06
Speaker 2: fragile people. I cut them some slack in regarding them.
1:00:11
Speaker 2: In their formative years. We paniced it scared them of
1:00:13
Speaker 2: death with the COVID fraud. We damage their health by
1:00:20
Speaker 2: injecting them with vaccines that in some cases will be
1:00:23
Speaker 2: toxic for them, and their parents raise them with bubble wrap,
1:00:32
Speaker 2: sheltering them from the harsh realities of the world. In
1:00:35
Speaker 2: the end, it's not really their fault. If you have
1:00:39
Speaker 2: a misbehaving dog that's never been trained, is that the
1:00:42
Speaker 2: dog's fault that the dog misbehaves. If you have a
1:00:48
Speaker 2: child that's been raised incapable of existing in the outside world,
1:00:52
Speaker 2: is it that child's fault? At some point, without regard
1:00:56
Speaker 2: to the hand you're delty, you still have to take
1:00:57
Speaker 2: responsibility for your situation. Nonetheless, the University of Michigan's College
1:01:02
Speaker 2: of Literature, Science and the Arts. So when I get clear,
1:01:06
Speaker 2: this is not the entire University of Michigan. A college
1:01:09
Speaker 2: within a university is like you'll have the college of
1:01:15
Speaker 2: anything in which there's a specific school that is unto
1:01:18
Speaker 2: itself within the university letters, science, and the arts. In
1:01:27
Speaker 2: other words, it sounds like a very big chunk of
1:01:29
Speaker 2: the university. They have announced that freshmen in their first
1:01:40
Speaker 2: semester will not receive a letter grade that is public.
1:01:44
Speaker 2: They will instead be given a pass or no credit basis.
1:01:50
Speaker 2: So a freshman in math at the University of Michigan's
1:01:55
Speaker 2: College of Literature Sciences in the Arts who does a
1:01:59
Speaker 2: work will simply get a pass, just as a student
1:02:03
Speaker 2: who gets a D minus will get a pass. Those
1:02:06
Speaker 2: that don't pass at all will simply get a fail.
1:02:09
Speaker 2: I'm imagining it's going to be very hard to fail. Why.
1:02:17
Speaker 2: They say that they are doing this because of the
1:02:20
Speaker 2: mental health crisis that they're seeing at universities, that students,
1:02:26
Speaker 2: particularly incoming freshmen, are so panic and stressed over their
1:02:32
Speaker 2: grades and academics. They're terrified that they're going to do poorly,
1:02:38
Speaker 2: get a bad GPA, or flink out. That they're facing
1:02:43
Speaker 2: this incredible stress. And we've been hearing about this for
1:02:45
Speaker 2: the last many, many number of years, and it keeps
1:02:47
Speaker 2: getting worse. The incredible stress of college. Now, I mean,
1:02:53
Speaker 2: I know how this has happened, but you're talking about
1:02:59
Speaker 2: something that in my life time has had just an
1:03:02
Speaker 2: incredible metamorphosis. Now, I was in college, most people flunked out.
1:03:06
Speaker 2: The majority of incoming freshmen did not graduate and get degrees.
1:03:10
Speaker 2: I think that that's still the case, and I'm guessing
1:03:13
Speaker 2: that for the kids that were having trouble and you
1:03:16
Speaker 2: flunked out by not keeping I think at Lacrosse it
1:03:19
Speaker 2: was a C minus average after two years. I don't
1:03:21
Speaker 2: remember exactly what it was, but if you couldn't keep
1:03:24
Speaker 2: your grade point up to a certain level, you were
1:03:26
Speaker 2: out and you'd have to transfer or start over or
1:03:28
Speaker 2: go to a simpler school or whatever. And now I
1:03:31
Speaker 2: was never in that situation, so I can obviously say
1:03:37
Speaker 2: I didn't feel the stress of flunking out because I
1:03:39
Speaker 2: was never close to flunking out. But I don't recall
1:03:45
Speaker 2: anybody at the school that I went to being stressed
1:03:48
Speaker 2: about anything. Now, maybe it's the circle I hung out with.
1:03:53
Speaker 2: We went out every damn night of the week. We
1:03:55
Speaker 2: had nothing but fun. College was an absolute class. I'm
1:04:00
Speaker 2: not majoring in physics or pre med or anything like
1:04:03
Speaker 2: that some of these young people today are. But it
1:04:07
Speaker 2: was not a particularly stressful environment. And even if you
1:04:10
Speaker 2: did flunk, oh okay, you flunked out, really nothing ventured,
1:04:13
Speaker 2: nothing gain Now, obviously in that day there weren't many
1:04:17
Speaker 2: people carrying one hundred thousand dollars student loans. If you've
1:04:19
Speaker 2: flunked out, it just meant, okay, fine, and I'll go
1:04:22
Speaker 2: do the thing at the age of twenty that I
1:04:23
Speaker 2: would have done at the age of eighteen. Go try
1:04:25
Speaker 2: to do something else with your life. Not a lot
1:04:27
Speaker 2: of pressure. Nonetheless, it's gone from being an almost zero
1:04:31
Speaker 2: pressure situation to extremely high pressure. But I think the
1:04:36
Speaker 2: big differentiation is that in my era, virtually everyone, whether
1:04:41
Speaker 2: you went to college or not, had psychees and skin
1:04:47
Speaker 2: made of leather. Vietnam had ended by the time I
1:04:52
Speaker 2: got to college, but it was still the Glehnom when
1:04:55
Speaker 2: I was in high school, and the draft was going on.
1:05:02
Speaker 2: Drafters gone by the time I got around there. But
1:05:05
Speaker 2: anybody who was in grade school or high school at
1:05:08
Speaker 2: that time was thinking about the draft and going to
1:05:10
Speaker 2: war and were confronting all these things. Going on in society.
1:05:16
Speaker 2: You know that this was your reality. Everybody I know
1:05:22
Speaker 2: wanted to knew every literally everybody I knew wanted to
1:05:25
Speaker 2: get out of the house the moment they got out
1:05:26
Speaker 2: of high school, and that was pretty much the end
1:05:31
Speaker 2: of their constant relationships with mom and dad was the
1:05:34
Speaker 2: day that they got out of there. We went to college.
1:05:35
Speaker 2: Maybe you'd call home like once a week or so.
1:05:37
Speaker 2: I mean, some people would do more. It was a
1:05:40
Speaker 2: different kind of thing. Everybody wanted to be on their owner.
1:05:43
Speaker 2: We wanted to get out from the thumb of what
1:05:45
Speaker 2: we thought were these dictatorial parents. That was just the thing. Now.
1:05:50
Speaker 2: I suspect that the baby boomers who were raised like that,
1:05:54
Speaker 2: and the gen x us who sort of were deep
1:05:57
Speaker 2: down regretted, but they didn't have any desire to stay home,
1:06:02
Speaker 2: and they raised their own children differently smothered them. The exception,
1:06:07
Speaker 2: of course, would be in many impoverished communities, African American families,
1:06:10
Speaker 2: where children get no attention from their parents and are
1:06:12
Speaker 2: being raised in the street. This is much more of
1:06:14
Speaker 2: an affluent white problem than it is a societal problem. Nonetheless,
1:06:23
Speaker 2: we have this incredible anxiety, fear, depression, terror of confronting life. Okay,
1:06:32
Speaker 2: you're a college kid. You take an entre level class
1:06:35
Speaker 2: in English literature and you get a D. You deal
1:06:42
Speaker 2: with it. You either study harder or you decide that
1:06:47
Speaker 2: college is too difficult for you when you look for
1:06:49
Speaker 2: another career path. Whoop dee do? How did we get
1:06:56
Speaker 2: to the point where college students are so shuitn'tly fragile
1:07:01
Speaker 2: that if they get a D, we can't let anybody
1:07:03
Speaker 2: know they get a D. Now, the Michigan thing is
1:07:04
Speaker 2: they still have letter grades, but they're blanked. In other words,
1:07:08
Speaker 2: they'll exist, but they won't be seen. And once you
1:07:11
Speaker 2: get to the second semester of the freshman year, the
1:07:13
Speaker 2: grades will be pointed out. But in the first semester
1:07:16
Speaker 2: you're just going to be under this past fail system
1:07:19
Speaker 2: and you won't even have to nowhere confront your grades
1:07:21
Speaker 2: until later on. It will be a way of easing
1:07:23
Speaker 2: you into this high pressure college. This is exactly the
1:07:28
Speaker 2: wrong thing. What your zero to seventeen years are supposed
1:07:34
Speaker 2: to be is a preparation for your eighteen and up years.
1:07:42
Speaker 2: I like to use football analogies. The football analogy is
1:07:46
Speaker 2: too simple. It's really simple, because right now, training camp
1:07:50
Speaker 2: is going to go on. So I'll use a horse
1:07:52
Speaker 2: racing analogy. We had a horse that made its career
1:07:55
Speaker 2: debut on Saturday, extremely exciting horse. He didn't win, but
1:08:03
Speaker 2: he ran phenomenally well. He was in. He raced at Saratoga.
1:08:06
Speaker 2: That's the toughest racing of the year. If you have
1:08:07
Speaker 2: a good two year old, you want to debut it
1:08:09
Speaker 2: at Saratoga. We did. We did it on a Whitney day,
1:08:11
Speaker 2: which is Whitney's a big steak. Stay people who at
1:08:14
Speaker 2: first time start. He's loved to run on a big
1:08:16
Speaker 2: day like that because there's there forty thousand people at
1:08:19
Speaker 2: the track, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Is it
1:08:21
Speaker 2: a really tough race and he had a very bad prep.
1:08:23
Speaker 2: He was on the reil banged run and still almost
1:08:25
Speaker 2: one of the time, came back blistering fast. He looks
1:08:29
Speaker 2: to be very good anyway, that horse. After he turns one,
1:08:39
Speaker 2: he goes to a farm where they learn to be.
1:08:42
Speaker 2: The term people that like the term, it's called broken.
1:08:44
Speaker 2: It means broken to saddle. It means the horse learns
1:08:48
Speaker 2: how to have a saddle out and how to deal
1:08:50
Speaker 2: with human beings and to respond to human commands, and
1:08:53
Speaker 2: if a rider is on them, when the rider tugs
1:08:55
Speaker 2: this way, and the same in training a dog and
1:08:57
Speaker 2: so on. Anybody who's had a riding horse knows you
1:08:59
Speaker 2: have to the horse how to do that. And after
1:09:01
Speaker 2: that you start having them. And when they're not doing that,
1:09:04
Speaker 2: they're out in a field and they're growing up and
1:09:07
Speaker 2: so on. And then when they hit the age of two,
1:09:09
Speaker 2: they're put into a more extensive training on the farm
1:09:11
Speaker 2: that they're at an eventual of the center the racetrack.
1:09:13
Speaker 2: And when they get to the racetrack, for about two
1:09:15
Speaker 2: to three months, they go out and gallop either every
1:09:19
Speaker 2: day or close to every day, and once a week
1:09:22
Speaker 2: they will do something called breezing, which is a workout
1:09:25
Speaker 2: at about eighty percent speed with a rider on their back.
1:09:28
Speaker 2: And you do this, and you do this, and you
1:09:29
Speaker 2: do this, and you do this and you do this.
1:09:30
Speaker 2: In other words, you gradually prepare this horse over a
1:09:34
Speaker 2: long period of time for racing. That's what zero to
1:09:39
Speaker 2: seventeen was supposed to be for people. Each year of
1:09:43
Speaker 2: your life you throw more at the child and give
1:09:46
Speaker 2: them more responsibility and more independence and more accountability. In
1:09:51
Speaker 2: other words, you toughen them up. So we have this
1:09:57
Speaker 2: crisis now of sevent eighteen. Nineteen year olds aren't tough enough.
1:10:04
Speaker 2: They're not ready for anything. The worst thing we can
1:10:08
Speaker 2: do is go even softer. At some point, you have
1:10:12
Speaker 2: to inproduce life. I talk every now and then to
1:10:19
Speaker 2: people who were in the military closer to my age,
1:10:23
Speaker 2: and they can't believe how soft basic training has got. Now.
1:10:27
Speaker 2: I'm sure basic training is still pretty tough, but if
1:10:29
Speaker 2: you're talking to somebody who's, say, my age, the basic
1:10:31
Speaker 2: training that they were talking about, they put it off
1:10:34
Speaker 2: as something like it's a basic than any human being lived.
1:10:37
Speaker 2: She'd hear the Marine guys, what did the Marines do
1:10:41
Speaker 2: basic training? Pendleton and Paris Island? Am I right about that? Yeah?
1:10:45
Speaker 2: I think there's two bases for base. I think Pendleton's
1:10:48
Speaker 2: and what Camp Pendleton is south of la and are
1:10:51
Speaker 2: San Diego and Paris Islands in South Carolina? I think
1:10:55
Speaker 2: I'm right about that. If I'm not, I'm not. And
1:10:58
Speaker 2: the Marines always were tougher, you know the army, and
1:11:00
Speaker 2: then the army maybe saw them, ain't number, ain't the raids? Well,
1:11:04
Speaker 2: these the basic training's gotten softer, and they all blame
1:11:08
Speaker 2: it on it's being softer because A the young people
1:11:10
Speaker 2: coming in are what's here, and B we allow the
1:11:13
Speaker 2: women to train with the men. That's what they all claim. Now,
1:11:15
Speaker 2: maybe it hasn't gotten that much soft. You know. It's
1:11:17
Speaker 2: like my grandparents claim they walked to school through ten
1:11:20
Speaker 2: miles of snow in the winter and all of that stuff.
1:11:22
Speaker 2: Then I'll put on I walked to school through the
1:11:24
Speaker 2: snow for a mile and a half. And that sounds
1:11:26
Speaker 2: insane to people now who get to take a bus
1:11:29
Speaker 2: every day or their mommies and daddies give them to
1:11:32
Speaker 2: rides to high school. At the age of seventeen, did
1:11:36
Speaker 2: you take a bus out of your parents give you
1:11:37
Speaker 2: a ride to school? You took a bus. How far
1:11:40
Speaker 2: did you live from the school in high school? Let's
1:11:43
Speaker 2: than a mile and you took a bus. See so
1:11:45
Speaker 2: I mean you're and you're not even that much younger
1:11:48
Speaker 2: than me. I mean the kids who got to take
1:11:50
Speaker 2: the bus when I was in high school where they
1:11:52
Speaker 2: lived on they were in the farm country. If you
1:11:54
Speaker 2: lived in the city, there wasn't a bus, you know. Okay, Grandpa,
1:12:00
Speaker 2: thanks for telling us that story. My point is this,
1:12:08
Speaker 2: you are never going to have anything other than woodsified,
1:12:11
Speaker 2: terrified snowflakes, incapable of handling life until you start throwing
1:12:17
Speaker 2: life at them, and that means they're gonna cry, They're
1:12:19
Speaker 2: gonna get their hearts broken. Why do you think there
1:12:22
Speaker 2: are so many young people's suicides because when something bad
1:12:26
Speaker 2: happens to them, they're incapable of handling it because in
1:12:29
Speaker 2: the past, everything bad that was happening was sheltered from them.
1:12:32
Speaker 2: They were cushed away. I remember when they brought in
1:12:37
Speaker 2: the first I wish I think it was zero ahead.
1:12:39
Speaker 2: It might have been Menominee Falls, or it might have
1:12:41
Speaker 2: been somebody else. One of those schools up there in
1:12:45
Speaker 2: the cushy, you know, Waukeshaw County, they started bringing in
1:12:50
Speaker 2: dogs to pet before final exams, you know. And I
1:12:55
Speaker 2: like pronounced this the end of Western civilization and said,
1:12:59
Speaker 2: what's the the kids, it's they're destress they pet the dog.
1:13:03
Speaker 2: I think in retrospect I underplayed it. That's exactly the
1:13:11
Speaker 2: turning point. Stress is something that human beings should thrive on.
1:13:18
Speaker 2: Stress is difficult. Nobody likes being stressed. But what stress
1:13:24
Speaker 2: is a chemical reaction going on INSI your body. It's
1:13:28
Speaker 2: putting you on high alert. It's telling you that this
1:13:30
Speaker 2: thing is important. You have to learn how to channel
1:13:34
Speaker 2: that stress and use it to do the best thing
1:13:37
Speaker 2: in that situation. Not only learn how to cope with it,
1:13:40
Speaker 2: but realize that if this is a very very difficult,
1:13:42
Speaker 2: pibolical point in my life, that means if I ace it,
1:13:45
Speaker 2: if I nail it, I'll be much better off. I
1:13:50
Speaker 2: also think so many of these kids are drugged out
1:13:53
Speaker 2: of their minds. First of all, they're rugged out of
1:13:55
Speaker 2: their minds with POD, but all of the anti stressed
1:14:00
Speaker 2: rugs that were putting on them as kids is making
1:14:02
Speaker 2: it impossible for them to handle actual, real stress. I
1:14:06
Speaker 2: want to get back to my point about the military.
1:14:07
Speaker 2: I lost it. I circle back. They took out how
1:14:11
Speaker 2: basic training is softer than it used to be, but
1:14:13
Speaker 2: it still has to be pretty dog gone tough. We
1:14:17
Speaker 2: said nineteen twenty twenty one year olds off to the
1:14:19
Speaker 2: war zone in Iran. That's actual stress. And I still
1:14:27
Speaker 2: don't hear about too many of them crying for mommy
1:14:35
Speaker 2: rather than doing their job on an aircraft carrier. Next topic,
1:14:44
Speaker 2: remember the movie The Wolf of Wall Street, Dave Michael's
1:14:48
Speaker 2: just in There. You watch all guy movies I mean
1:14:51
Speaker 2: the only I don't watch many contemporary movies at all,
1:14:54
Speaker 2: but the ones that I do see are the movies that,
1:14:56
Speaker 2: like every guy would see. Wolf of wall Street. That
1:14:59
Speaker 2: was another more I watch all martinsskezy films. Wolf of
1:15:03
Speaker 2: Wall Street. It's a true story. It was based on
1:15:05
Speaker 2: I forget the name of the company, but as a
1:15:07
Speaker 2: penny stock broker. Jordan Belfort was a real life person,
1:15:10
Speaker 2: and DiCaprio played him. It was a sort of fictionalized version,
1:15:13
Speaker 2: but not that much. He read a brokerage firm that
1:15:17
Speaker 2: was a boiler room operation. What they did was they
1:15:21
Speaker 2: traded in stocks that weren't on the stock exchange. They're
1:15:23
Speaker 2: on the soul called pink sheets. The pink sheets, in
1:15:27
Speaker 2: other words, are stocks that you can buy into, but
1:15:29
Speaker 2: they're not listed in an exchange. And the reason companies
1:15:32
Speaker 2: went into them is there's a big spread. You know,
1:15:35
Speaker 2: if I buy something, my brokerage account is Fidelity. If
1:15:39
Speaker 2: it's a major corporation, the difference between the bid and
1:15:42
Speaker 2: the ask might be a penny. It might be one
1:15:44
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy one to buy in one nineteen seventy to sell.
1:15:49
Speaker 2: Tiny margin the brokerage firm makes some of the pink
1:15:52
Speaker 2: sheet stocks. You buy it for fifty five, you sell
1:15:56
Speaker 2: it for thirty. The entire profit is what those brokers
1:16:00
Speaker 2: are getting in betweyed. You know, think of a grocery store.
1:16:03
Speaker 2: If they buy a dozen eggs for fifteen cents and
1:16:06
Speaker 2: they got to sell him for twenty seven dollars, that'd
1:16:08
Speaker 2: be a tremendous margager for them to be able to have. Anyway,
1:16:11
Speaker 2: Wolf of Wall Street was about that. There's a story
1:16:24
Speaker 2: in the Walk of Shaw Freeman. The story doesn't mention
1:16:30
Speaker 2: the victim's age, but it says he's from Delafield and
1:16:36
Speaker 2: he got a call over the phone from somebody who
1:16:40
Speaker 2: said he had the opportunity to invest in stocks that
1:16:43
Speaker 2: were broke, low profile stocks that were deeply disconted as
1:16:47
Speaker 2: to their true value, and if he invested in these
1:16:48
Speaker 2: stocks he had make a tremendous amount of money in
1:16:51
Speaker 2: a very short period of time. So the guy puts
1:16:56
Speaker 2: up two hundred and thirty eight thousand dollars. So obviously,
1:17:01
Speaker 2: once he was stupid enough to do this, they asked
1:17:04
Speaker 2: him again, and they kept going back to him again
1:17:05
Speaker 2: and again and again and again and again. The guy
1:17:11
Speaker 2: who was making the calls. He is an Asian American
1:17:18
Speaker 2: man from Illinois. He said, I was only being paid
1:17:21
Speaker 2: eight hundred dollars. I was reading a script for somebody else.
1:17:24
Speaker 2: So far as I can tell from the criminal complaint,
1:17:27
Speaker 2: he hasn't told who the somebody else is. It may
1:17:30
Speaker 2: well be that he's that somebody else doesn't exist, that
1:17:33
Speaker 2: this was simply him, that he was cold calling people,
1:17:36
Speaker 2: you know. And I don't ever answer the phone anymore
1:17:40
Speaker 2: other than the only time I answered the phone by
1:17:42
Speaker 2: mistake is if I think it's a call that I'm
1:17:43
Speaker 2: expecting it. It is, and it's an unfamiliar number, but I'm
1:17:46
Speaker 2: expecting to call it. It's the right area code. I'll
1:17:48
Speaker 2: get that, and then it's somebody. Just get rid of it,
1:17:50
Speaker 2: and then you put block and you don't answer it again.
1:17:56
Speaker 2: But this guy got suckered. He ended up out over
1:17:59
Speaker 2: five hundred dollars. Now, the story does not indicate the
1:18:02
Speaker 2: age of the man from Delafield, but he did after
1:18:06
Speaker 2: a time, begin to figure out that he was scammed.
1:18:08
Speaker 2: Story doesn't say if relatives said you got to call
1:18:10
Speaker 2: the police, but the police were involved, and when they
1:18:13
Speaker 2: made an arrangement for him to drop off more money.
1:18:15
Speaker 2: They were there and the arrested the guy and that's
1:18:17
Speaker 2: when he came up. I was just doing this. I
1:18:18
Speaker 2: was making calls for somebody else. And sometimes you are
1:18:21
Speaker 2: making calls from somebody else. Maybe there's somebody that's overseas
1:18:23
Speaker 2: that's doing it. End you're just the front man making
1:18:26
Speaker 2: the phone calls and the money's being sent to somewhere else.
1:18:30
Speaker 2: Now again, maybe it's an elderly person. Sadly, one of
1:18:34
Speaker 2: the things that happened when you get older is the
1:18:38
Speaker 2: general distrust that you have for situations that seem fishy.
1:18:42
Speaker 2: You just lose that ability to discern when something is fishy.
1:18:48
Speaker 2: Nobody wants that to happen to him. And maybe that's
1:18:50
Speaker 2: what happened, or maybe this is just somebody who fell
1:18:52
Speaker 2: for a stupid line. What I can tell you is
1:18:55
Speaker 2: the reason all of these scams, you know, the emails
1:18:57
Speaker 2: from Nigeria and all this stuff. Ninety nine point nine
1:19:01
Speaker 2: nine nine percent of people don't bite on this, but
1:19:06
Speaker 2: they persist because it's very low effort, especially if it's emails.
1:19:11
Speaker 2: To crank all this stuff out, you need only a
1:19:13
Speaker 2: few morons to hit on it in order to work.
1:19:16
Speaker 2: The thing that struck me about this is it was
1:19:18
Speaker 2: phone calls. Now, if you get the person on the phone,
1:19:20
Speaker 2: it's more effective than an email. The problem for the
1:19:23
Speaker 2: phone callers is that are working. This is almost everybody
1:19:25
Speaker 2: hangs up and the majority of them don't take the
1:19:27
Speaker 2: call at all. They got through, the guy listened and
1:19:31
Speaker 2: the thing was if the money is indeed somewhere offshore overseas,
1:19:35
Speaker 2: there's probably no way of ever recovering it. Now to
1:19:40
Speaker 2: the flock cameras. Flot cameras are everywhere. This is one
1:19:47
Speaker 2: of those things. It's kind of like data centers. There
1:19:52
Speaker 2: are some things that nobody opposes until after they're already here.
1:19:58
Speaker 2: Like there's this data center in Milwaukee. It's You're thirty
1:20:03
Speaker 2: first in Highland. It's a Concordia neighborhood. It's either thirty
1:20:08
Speaker 2: first in Highland or Kilbourn. It's one of those East
1:20:11
Speaker 2: West streets. Pottawaab owns it. It's a data center. They
1:20:15
Speaker 2: took a really large building and they represented it into
1:20:18
Speaker 2: a data center. Well, Patawaab owns it. It's not for
1:20:22
Speaker 2: the Patawadab Casino. Their business development department at Pottawatam. He
1:20:25
Speaker 2: was ahead of the curve and realized that thirty years
1:20:28
Speaker 2: from now, everybody in the world's going to need data setus,
1:20:30
Speaker 2: so they have a data center there. I think js
1:20:32
Speaker 2: online just did a story at it. Nobody lives in
1:20:36
Speaker 2: the neighborhood has bothered at all that data center when
1:20:39
Speaker 2: nobody I mean now, if you try to put a
1:20:40
Speaker 2: data center in a residential neighborhood, people would freak out.
1:20:43
Speaker 2: But the one that's actually there. The same thing with
1:20:45
Speaker 2: the Microsoft data center, arguably the largest in the world
1:20:49
Speaker 2: right now in southern Racine County. Everybody was elated when
1:20:54
Speaker 2: Microsoft made that announcement. Now that it's opened, a few
1:20:57
Speaker 2: people who live relatively nearby are complaining about the world
1:21:00
Speaker 2: noise that comes from it. But that thing was green
1:21:05
Speaker 2: lit before. Everybody freaked out about data centers. They're just
1:21:07
Speaker 2: certain things that people don't know they're against it until
1:21:11
Speaker 2: somebody else tells him you're supposed to be against it.
1:21:14
Speaker 2: The Flock cameras are an example of that. Flock is
1:21:17
Speaker 2: the company that is installing cameras pretty much on every
1:21:20
Speaker 2: corner of the United States of America. City gets a
1:21:23
Speaker 2: contract to put up cameras and the cameras become everywhere,
1:21:26
Speaker 2: and as I say they're all over. I don't know
1:21:29
Speaker 2: what percent. I would say of the cities in Wisconsin,
1:21:32
Speaker 2: over twenty thousand, more than half have either flock or
1:21:35
Speaker 2: a competitors' cameras. They're all over, and until like three
1:21:40
Speaker 2: months ago, I never heard anybody complain about them. In fact,
1:21:44
Speaker 2: everybody seemed elated by them. They become a tremendous tool
1:21:50
Speaker 2: and stopping crime in Milwaukee. They're equipped license readers, which
1:21:54
Speaker 2: doesn't help much for the people that don't have license plates,
1:21:57
Speaker 2: so the cars that are not registered. But otherwise they're
1:22:01
Speaker 2: very very effective. Somebody commits. The flock cameras were extremely
1:22:05
Speaker 2: helpful in losing the name of the young woman who
1:22:10
Speaker 2: was killed. She's picked up by the bartender and then
1:22:13
Speaker 2: chopped up into pieces. Sit again Shatay Robinson, Maxwell Anderson
1:22:19
Speaker 2: the killer. The flock cameras were among the things that
1:22:22
Speaker 2: they were used to track them. The big thing though,
1:22:24
Speaker 2: was the ping of the cell phones. Nonetheless, the flat
1:22:26
Speaker 2: cameras are all over the place. In the town of mcquanago,
1:22:31
Speaker 2: there's an intersection that has a flock camera and it
1:22:33
Speaker 2: was vandalized. In the city of Milwaukee, the city of
1:22:35
Speaker 2: Milwaukee is now considering ending its contract. What's happened is
1:22:40
Speaker 2: some of the flock cameras have been abused by law
1:22:42
Speaker 2: enforcement in Milwaukee. There are now two cases that we
1:22:45
Speaker 2: know of of police officers using the flock cameras to
1:22:48
Speaker 2: track people that were not criminals, but people that they
1:22:51
Speaker 2: just wanted to track. For example, let's imagine the cop
1:22:54
Speaker 2: wants to know what his girlfriend or his ex wife
1:22:57
Speaker 2: or someone like that is doing. With that person's license
1:23:01
Speaker 2: number into the database for the flock cameras, and you
1:23:03
Speaker 2: can see everywhere they go. Well, obviously that's a problem.
1:23:08
Speaker 2: On the other hand, it would seem to me that
1:23:10
Speaker 2: the upside of having cameras everywhere always the downside. As
1:23:14
Speaker 2: I've explained many times, you can put cameras anywhere you
1:23:17
Speaker 2: want in public. I'm all for. I don't do anything
1:23:24
Speaker 2: that I would be bothered if anyone saw. I don't
1:23:27
Speaker 2: want them inside my home. I don't want I don't
1:23:29
Speaker 2: want a flock camera in my shower and my toilet, obviously,
1:23:33
Speaker 2: But once I'm out the garage, what do I care
1:23:36
Speaker 2: what someone's doing. If there's a flat camera at every
1:23:39
Speaker 2: intersection of the city of Milwaukee, and a flat camera
1:23:41
Speaker 2: at every mile on the freeway, which of course there
1:23:43
Speaker 2: are and these and anybody can track where my vehicle is.
1:23:47
Speaker 2: I got nothing to hide, there's no hooker in the car.
1:23:51
Speaker 2: I'm not robbing any bank. There's nothing bad going on.
1:23:58
Speaker 2: Let's go to the Nancy three kidnapping and murder. Whatever
1:24:04
Speaker 2: it was they're by. Her body has not been recovered
1:24:06
Speaker 2: in Tucson. One of the things that the investigators said was,
1:24:12
Speaker 2: you know, one of their excuses as to why they
1:24:13
Speaker 2: never caught anybody because she was living in not rural
1:24:17
Speaker 2: it's like what do you call an area that's desert
1:24:19
Speaker 2: and cactus. She was outside the main part of Tucson
1:24:23
Speaker 2: and in kind of like with like a yarge, large
1:24:27
Speaker 2: yard area that we would have in our suburbs, except
1:24:30
Speaker 2: down there it's brush and cactus and so on. Is
1:24:33
Speaker 2: because the streets were unlimited. There weren't cameras everywhere that
1:24:37
Speaker 2: you could go, for example, a half mile before the
1:24:39
Speaker 2: next camera would pick you up. And they said, if
1:24:42
Speaker 2: she had lived in an area, and maybe if this
1:24:44
Speaker 2: was a random attack, it was simply the area that
1:24:46
Speaker 2: she lived in that made or the target. If you live,
1:24:49
Speaker 2: for example, in downtown Tucson, anybody that left her place.
1:24:52
Speaker 2: You'd see them and then you see them the next
1:24:53
Speaker 2: block and you could easily follow them. If we don't
1:24:56
Speaker 2: have these type of cameras, we lose one of our
1:24:59
Speaker 2: greatest turns to crime. Now, some people are saying, this
1:25:02
Speaker 2: is an invasion of my privacy. I got Dave Michaels
1:25:05
Speaker 2: in here is youth. Consider these an invasion of your privacy.
1:25:09
Speaker 2: Here's my deal. If you're in public, you have to privacy.
1:25:14
Speaker 2: If you are in public, everything you do is public.
1:25:17
Speaker 2: It's like the concept of public records. You've got a
1:25:20
Speaker 2: lot of these people that are complaining now about the
1:25:22
Speaker 2: police body cams being released to the public. The police
1:25:25
Speaker 2: officers are public officials. The police officer everything they do
1:25:28
Speaker 2: and if they're encountering you, this is a public act.
1:25:31
Speaker 2: When you die, there's a public record of that. If
1:25:34
Speaker 2: you give birth, there's a public record of that. If
1:25:36
Speaker 2: you are in public, anyone else can see you, and
1:25:39
Speaker 2: if the camera sees you rather than a person, that's
1:25:42
Speaker 2: the way it is. I grant you. There is tremendous
1:25:46
Speaker 2: potential for these to be abused and misused. You're listening
1:25:53
Speaker 2: to the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling podcast.
1:26:00
Speaker 2: I mentioned this every year, So here we go again.
1:26:04
Speaker 2: The topic of the state Fair is one that as
1:26:08
Speaker 2: a talk show host I acknowledge I'm no good at
1:26:13
Speaker 2: I now do a show that has as many listeners
1:26:15
Speaker 2: outside of Wisconsin as in Wisconsin. When I was doing
1:26:17
Speaker 2: my radio show, the majority of people lived in southeastern Wisconsin.
1:26:20
Speaker 2: The state Fair is going on right now. Every year
1:26:23
Speaker 2: about a million people go to it. In other words,
1:26:24
Speaker 2: a big thing. And I like to talk about things
1:26:26
Speaker 2: that are in everybody's frame of reference. I never know
1:26:30
Speaker 2: what to talk about with regard to the state Fair?
1:26:32
Speaker 2: Do you? So? If Dave was filling in for you,
1:26:39
Speaker 2: probably are filling in for somebody today, are you? I
1:26:43
Speaker 2: mean you did you do a state for now? I'm
1:26:45
Speaker 2: mixed up as to Ben has gone, so everybody's flipped
1:26:48
Speaker 2: all over it. And who did you fill in for? Oh?
1:26:54
Speaker 2: No one today? Okay, So if you were doing a
1:26:56
Speaker 2: topic you would Why are I mean? I've done that one.
1:26:59
Speaker 2: I do not under stand why people want to eat
1:27:03
Speaker 2: a rancid smelling, sugar filled cream puff when it's ninety
1:27:07
Speaker 2: two degrees outside. To me, I just all I can
1:27:10
Speaker 2: think of is curdling milk. All right? Now, you had
1:27:14
Speaker 2: another thing in the lack of parking. So in other words,
1:27:15
Speaker 2: all you could do with the State Fair is bitch
1:27:17
Speaker 2: about it. Right. See, Now here's the thing. This is
1:27:19
Speaker 2: why I say it's difficult for me as a topic.
1:27:21
Speaker 2: A million people go, it's a huge deal. A few
1:27:24
Speaker 2: hundred thousand more people go to the State Fair. They
1:27:26
Speaker 2: go to Summerfest. Now I didn't go to Summerfest this year,
1:27:29
Speaker 2: but I can always come up with nineteen things to
1:27:31
Speaker 2: talk about with regard to Summerfest, because a there might
1:27:33
Speaker 2: be a music group there, or there might be some
1:27:35
Speaker 2: sort of goofiness that happened over here, or there's this guy. Mean,
1:27:39
Speaker 2: I never know what to say. The only time something
1:27:42
Speaker 2: comes up to say is if God forbid something happens.
1:27:44
Speaker 2: When Tom barreta mayor, was attacked, there was trouble outside
1:27:48
Speaker 2: the fair, there were problems at the midway one year,
1:27:50
Speaker 2: there was a power outage. There's a story that stuff, obviously,
1:27:54
Speaker 2: But what I would have to offer is that I
1:27:56
Speaker 2: never know what to talk about with regard to the
1:27:57
Speaker 2: State Fair. Yet I feel as though I should because
1:27:59
Speaker 2: it's underway and apparently we're off to another wonderful success.
1:28:03
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna come up with this. I think one
1:28:07
Speaker 2: of the things that and it's not just I'm guessing
1:28:10
Speaker 2: most state fears do this. The State Fair does not
1:28:13
Speaker 2: take a day off. Summerfest used to have the same
1:28:17
Speaker 2: schedule as the State Fair. Summerfest for most of its
1:28:22
Speaker 2: run ran from Thursday to the following Sunday. That's the
1:28:26
Speaker 2: exact schedule of the Fair, and I think, as long
1:28:30
Speaker 2: as I've been alive, that's what the schedule of the
1:28:32
Speaker 2: fair was. I don't think it was ever not Thursday
1:28:35
Speaker 2: through the following Sunday. It sure seems to me that
1:28:37
Speaker 2: when I was a little kid, the fair ran Thursday
1:28:40
Speaker 2: through the following Sunday. Summer Fest even I think even
1:28:44
Speaker 2: before COVID switched to run it for three weekends. Maybe
1:28:47
Speaker 2: it was after COVID it was because of COVID, but
1:28:51
Speaker 2: prior to that, they stopped the Monday. And the explanation
1:28:55
Speaker 2: for stopping the Monday is A, it was our slowest
1:28:57
Speaker 2: day and B the staff needs a break. Dave said
1:29:05
Speaker 2: they moved up the start data to a Wednesday. I
1:29:07
Speaker 2: don't recall that part of it. You sure about that?
1:29:12
Speaker 2: Very sure? This is like what Paul would be in there.
1:29:15
Speaker 2: He guarantees that he'd turn out to be wrong. Well,
1:29:18
Speaker 2: whether they did or they didn't, they probably did it
1:29:20
Speaker 2: one way one year and one way the other year.
1:29:23
Speaker 2: The point that I make is they felt they need
1:29:25
Speaker 2: to give the staff the day off. The State Fair
1:29:26
Speaker 2: has never done that well. The State Fair has the
1:29:28
Speaker 2: same type of employees as the Summerfest would. And the
1:29:31
Speaker 2: idea that we have to take a break in here
1:29:32
Speaker 2: because nobody can work eleven days in or why can't
1:29:34
Speaker 2: you work eleven days in a row, it's the nature
1:29:37
Speaker 2: of that kind of thing. And most people who work
1:29:38
Speaker 2: at the fair, they don't have regular nine to five jobs,
1:29:41
Speaker 2: you know, fifty two weeks out of the year and
1:29:43
Speaker 2: so on. They've got this hard splat and then if
1:29:46
Speaker 2: they're a carneie or something, they go off to the
1:29:47
Speaker 2: next thing. And if you run the State Ferry, you're
1:29:50
Speaker 2: not doing a dog on thing in February. So you
1:29:52
Speaker 2: work your way through this and the other thing. I
1:29:54
Speaker 2: do believe the continuity and regularity of the fair, and
1:29:59
Speaker 2: set the fact that the Fair has so many things
1:30:04
Speaker 2: that bring people in. You know, they still have the
1:30:07
Speaker 2: hat contest and the flower contest. All of those people
1:30:10
Speaker 2: who enter attend the Fair. One of the reasons they
1:30:13
Speaker 2: hit a million is about one hundred and seventy five
1:30:15
Speaker 2: thousand have earned voted something that goes in there, So
1:30:18
Speaker 2: of course they're going to go. But I admit, I
1:30:23
Speaker 2: just there's nothing to me, and that's ever interesting about
1:30:25
Speaker 2: the food at the State Fair. People mentioned that cream.
1:30:28
Speaker 2: Now they're on the sporkies and all of that. Summerfest
1:30:30
Speaker 2: there's some variety of the amount of food. I think
1:30:32
Speaker 2: the Summerfest food has gotten more generic over the years.
1:30:36
Speaker 2: But I just never have anything to talk about. So
1:30:38
Speaker 2: my topic on the State Fair and the fact that
1:30:40
Speaker 2: it's underway is I have nothing to say about the
1:30:44
Speaker 2: State Fair. I'll and I'll make the comment that I
1:30:46
Speaker 2: make every year one of the things that fascinates me.
1:30:51
Speaker 2: So a million people go, that would mean an average day,
1:30:53
Speaker 2: it's about ninety thousand, ninety thousand when people go to
1:30:59
Speaker 2: a Buckskin and downtown Milwaukee, I mean sellout game there
1:31:02
Speaker 2: is eighteen thousand. Traffic is backed up on the freeways
1:31:08
Speaker 2: for miles. I don't ever see anybody going to the fair.
1:31:14
Speaker 2: I drive past it. I drive every possible way I
1:31:18
Speaker 2: can drive down. Greenfield Avenue is the residential street that
1:31:20
Speaker 2: skirts the south end of the fair. I've driven down
1:31:23
Speaker 2: Greenfield Avenue during the fair. There's no traffic. I have
1:31:25
Speaker 2: no clue as to when people go in and out
1:31:27
Speaker 2: of the fair. I know it's staggered, but there's still
1:31:31
Speaker 2: people in there. Then I look at these parking lots.
1:31:33
Speaker 2: There's no place to park your car all the way
1:31:35
Speaker 2: to like one hundred and fourth Street. Over the sixties
1:31:38
Speaker 2: through the parking's taking up. Everybody's yard is filled with cars.
1:31:41
Speaker 2: The little bit of limited parking that they have on
1:31:42
Speaker 2: the grounds of the fair is taken. You've got places
1:31:45
Speaker 2: that are running all of these I don't ever see
1:31:46
Speaker 2: anybody going in there. I get off the freeway to
1:31:50
Speaker 2: get onto ninety four eastbound poor Downtown, I don't ever
1:31:54
Speaker 2: I might see two cars taking the eighty four street exits.
1:31:57
Speaker 2: There's more traffic taking those cars on the fair is
1:32:00
Speaker 2: going on. They have people. I don't even know which
1:32:02
Speaker 2: way you're supposed to go now because six sixty, eighth
1:32:04
Speaker 2: and seventieth Street that's closed. National is a mess now.
1:32:09
Speaker 2: I haven't been in there this time, but it's never
1:32:11
Speaker 2: anything that I say, and there's never any traffic. I
1:32:15
Speaker 2: used to think, well, it's because people go early, unlike Summerfest,
1:32:18
Speaker 2: where everybody goes at night. People in the fair in
1:32:21
Speaker 2: the daytime. I went to work this morning at eight forty,
1:32:26
Speaker 2: nothing going into the fair. When I leave here in
1:32:28
Speaker 2: the afternoon, there's not gonna be any to going to
1:32:30
Speaker 2: the fair. It's like all of those people just sort
1:32:32
Speaker 2: of come out of the ground like tulips at the
1:32:34
Speaker 2: fair and bloom up. See. I bring this because I
1:32:37
Speaker 2: need something to say about the fair, and I got nothing.
1:32:42
Speaker 2: I don't go much anymore either. I mean, if you say,
1:32:46
Speaker 2: why are you going to the fair this year? Hope
1:32:52
Speaker 2: to get this at What are you gonna do? Walk around?
1:32:55
Speaker 2: What do you look at when you walk around? Animals? Music?
1:33:01
Speaker 2: See see Summerfest, there's things to see if you walk around.
1:33:06
Speaker 2: The downside is I would be heckled more at Summerfest
1:33:10
Speaker 2: than the Fair. And my theory on that is the
1:33:12
Speaker 2: fair is well, you know, Summerfest says more than half
1:33:16
Speaker 2: their people are not from the Milwaukee area, and they've
1:33:19
Speaker 2: run they run surveys on that. I think the Fair
1:33:22
Speaker 2: is even more so a wider geographic area. Yeah, that
1:33:27
Speaker 2: it because the Illinois Fair is way out in Springfield.
1:33:30
Speaker 2: The Chicago area. Their closest fair would be ours, the
1:33:33
Speaker 2: one in Wisconsin who it draws from that area. But
1:33:38
Speaker 2: Herman's Hermits is there. Herman's Hermitts did a private Herman
1:33:42
Speaker 2: Sermitts is. It's Peter noon Is who's there. And as
1:33:46
Speaker 2: Peter will point out, no I knows who the other
1:33:48
Speaker 2: Hemets were anyway, See calls themself Peter Noon and Herman
1:33:50
Speaker 2: servants Peter Noon. Herman's Hermits did a private concert for
1:33:54
Speaker 2: my crewis people. There are people who are on the
1:33:57
Speaker 2: cruise that year who didn't understand what that that sort
1:33:59
Speaker 2: of before we went off on the cruise. He booked
1:34:01
Speaker 2: a venue and the only people there were was my
1:34:04
Speaker 2: cruise group. Peter not as hilarious. He still does a
1:34:06
Speaker 2: show on satellite radio. He's old. He was the first
1:34:11
Speaker 2: wave of the British invasion, like sixty two and sixty three,
1:34:14
Speaker 2: but he was so young that he's not as old
1:34:16
Speaker 2: as you think. I think he was like fourteen then
1:34:18
Speaker 2: he's less than a decade older than me. But I
1:34:22
Speaker 2: mean just because he's been I mean Henry the Eighth,
1:34:25
Speaker 2: I am, I am all those songs. He's very very funny,
1:34:30
Speaker 2: you know, he does this thing that every nostalgia act,
1:34:33
Speaker 2: every old these act does towards the end of the
1:34:35
Speaker 2: thing in which they slowed on the music, and he
1:34:37
Speaker 2: talks about his career and how he got to, you know,
1:34:41
Speaker 2: live out his dream, and he's tell and I've been
1:34:44
Speaker 2: able to do it. I played with Mick jag Or,
1:34:46
Speaker 2: I played with the Beatles. I did this. I was
1:34:48
Speaker 2: able to see all these places, in all of these
1:34:51
Speaker 2: things that a young boy from whatever city in England
1:34:54
Speaker 2: he was from, would never be able to do. And
1:34:57
Speaker 2: as I sit here right now, I have never been
1:35:00
Speaker 2: happier because I've achieved the pinnacle of what I've always
1:35:04
Speaker 2: wanted to accomplish. Play the Mark Belling Cruise. People thought
1:35:10
Speaker 2: I'd be consulted over. That is somebody who loves to
1:35:13
Speaker 2: make fun of him, So I thought that was just
1:35:15
Speaker 2: he's making fun of himself. Picking fun of the thing
1:35:17
Speaker 2: is very cool. Guy. Is it tonight that he's there? Yeah?
1:35:21
Speaker 2: They have a lot of the people that were in
1:35:24
Speaker 2: my group did not realize my favorite song. They did.
1:35:29
Speaker 2: They did a lot of covers. Obviously in that era
1:35:31
Speaker 2: are the British, even the Beatles and the Stones. All
1:35:34
Speaker 2: they did originally were covers. They didn't start doing their
1:35:36
Speaker 2: own music till sixty three sixty four, but kind of
1:35:39
Speaker 2: a hush I think is their best song? Well you
1:35:44
Speaker 2: roll your eyes then, all right, what would it be?
1:35:47
Speaker 2: I know it's before your are. So you say that
1:35:50
Speaker 2: the pick song I picked you is not the best
1:35:52
Speaker 2: one to be able to single out, but you don't
1:35:54
Speaker 2: single out anything. You don't have an opinion, Well, then
1:35:58
Speaker 2: don't roll your eyes in my opinion. Get Jason back
1:36:03
Speaker 2: in here. I'm already tired of Dave Baaels. All right,
1:36:06
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