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Elon Musk’s underground transit plans for American cities are underway · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  You're listening to the Hidden Lightness on America Out Loud Talk Radio.
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  I'm your host, Jimmy Hinton.
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  Elon Musk is back in the news again.
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  His boring company, TBC, the Boring Company.
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  Not boring as in Boring, but as in boring digging holes.
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  The Boring Company is looking at underground tunnel projects.
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  They just released something in March at the beginning of March.
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  And they're offering to do tunnel projects for free in two major U.S.
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  cities.
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  This is really really interesting.
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  And I'm going to nerd out on you today.
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  Today's show is a little bit different because this is something that fascinates me.
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  Having spent many many years in the transportation industry, there is one thing that I really dislike in America.
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  And that is traffic.
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  That's right.
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  Traffic really gets under my skin.
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  When I drove truck, I intentionally tried as much as possible to schedule my runs always to be at night.
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  Now that's of course not feasible, but as much as possible, I drove at night.
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  And I number one, I'm a night owl.
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  Number two, I did not want to drive through cities during the day.
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  No pun intended.
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  But I can't stand traffic.
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  And mostly I'm a pretty patient guy, but the way people drive, that's what annoys me.
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  I really can't stand it's like the one part of humanity that I really dislike.
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  The way that other people drive.
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  So I'm really attracted to this idea of the underground tunnels.
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  And if you're not familiar with the boring company, there are current projects that are already not just in the works, but they're transporting people underground.
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  Right now they're using Teslas, Tesla SUVs, and uh it's a really cool system.
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  Originally, Elon Musk did what Elon Musk does, and he overpromises.
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  Right?
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  Elon Musk constantly overpromises.
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  And I'm not pointing fingers at him.
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  I think it's great to be a visionary.
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  I I think that he has definitely proven that there's potential.
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  There's not a single day that goes by, even in my little town out in the middle of nowhere in Pennsylvania.
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  There's not a day goes by that I don't see multiple Teslas on the road.
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  They're everywhere.
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  And uh it's it's really taken off.
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  I I've said this before, I still maintain it.
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  I would not buy one.
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  Uh not at this stage of the game, but I don't care that other people like them.
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  I I have a brother who owns two Teslas, and he loves them.
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  And uh for him, it it just works, it works really well.
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  Uh he lives in an urban area, and it just it works fantastic for him.
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  He loves them.
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  So I'm not knocking people for purchasing or liking Teslas.
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  That's you know, that's the great thing about living in a diverse nation where we have lots of options.
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  People can buy whatever they want to buy, and that's great.
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  That's fantastic.
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  I I actually celebrate that.
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  I think we all should.
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  But this idea of using the Teslas underground is absolutely brilliant.
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  Uh, to have a zero emissions car.
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  These are my soft air quotes this time, because of course we know it takes energy and energy production to be able to charge the batteries.
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  And that energy does produce emissions.
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  There's no way around it.
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  So they claim that it's zero emissions, and that's that's kind of misleading in my opinion.
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  Yeah, maybe it's zero emissions when when the thing actually runs, but to charge it, it's definitely not zero emissions.
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  But that's neither here nor there.
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  It's the the whole concept is really cool.
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  But Elon Musk really overpromed on this.
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  Yeah, originally it was going to be this underground high speed 150 plus mile an hour, uh, like a like a super fast railway that runs underground in a vacuum, which is a really cool concept.
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  And and I hope that one day we're able to come to that.
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  I hope it comes to fruition.
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  But uh it's just at the moment, it's not feasible, and they've hit so many roadblocks, and a lot of that is just permitting.
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  Think about what it takes to bore underground, and of course, coal mines run into this all the time.
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  I live in coal country, and uh the underground mines are all around us, and they're destroying the water tables.
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  And I think that's something that the the DEP, the Department of Environmental Protection, is really trying to avoid.
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  If if we're talking about these large-scale uh tunnels, they really don't want to destroy the ecosystem that exists underground.
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  And and and I don't either, you know, I don't think any of us should want that destroy.
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  So uh it is a very big issue for the foreseeable future.
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  However, we know that we've had underground subways for decades for for a long, long time in this nation.
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  We have a lot of major cities that use subways.
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  In fact, Pittsburgh Airport, uh, they're actually removing their well, they did already.
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  Uh they upgraded the airport, but they removed the underground tunnel, and I'm actually gonna kind of miss that.
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  That was kind of a fun little bit of a nostalgic thing whenever I would take the kids to the airport, and uh they always loved riding the the underground subway, and it just was a cool, it was a cool, kind of eerie.
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  Um, like I said, a little bit of a nostalgic experience for the kids, and that's been taken away now.
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  So we have them.
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  You know, obviously people can get the permitting because we do have them right now all over America.
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  And so on a wide scale uh project, I just I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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  However, I'm holding out hope.
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  Maybe not in my lifetime, but I think the future of this is really cool.
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  Uh to be able to have a network across America would be so cool.
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  Having this high speed underground uh rail network would be would be really important because you think about uh think about above ground.
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  You have these high-speed trains, but you still have obstacles.
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  Yeah, you still have deer, you uh deer are a very big problem, and then you get out uh up north and out west, you have moose.
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  Uh I don't know, it make me nervous.
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  I I'd be pretty nervous riding a high-speed rail.
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  So I want to talk a little bit about the history of Elon Musk specifically and what some of his visions were because there are two different things, two different concepts.
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  Uh, the original was the hyperloop concept, and now there's the boring company, TBC, and uh I'm gonna talk about both of their early California tunnel projects.
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  So both of these, the hyperloop and the boring company, both directly tied to Elon Musk, uh both largely ended up abandoned or at least heavily pivoted.
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  So the high speed pod concept, which is the hyperloop.
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  Uh this is actually a a super fast uh 700 mile per hour vacuum tube transport system, which was supposed to connect Los Angeles and San Francisco.
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  This was in uh 2013.
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  Elon Musk published a white paper proposing this hyperloop concept.
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  The idea was to shoot passenger pods through a deep pressurized tube.
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  And he pitched this as a cheaper, faster alternative to California's struggling and now abandoned high speed rail project.
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  You remember the whole debacle about that, and President Trump called it out.
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  He actually cut federal funding from the high speed rail project in California because they're billions and billions, tens of billions of dollars that are unaccounted for.
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  The money's just gone.
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  So Elon Musk and the Boring Company never actually attempted to build a commercial hyperloop.
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  So this was more just a concept on paper.
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  Which the public was very excited about.
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  And I was very excited when I first heard this.
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  I thought, man, what a cool, what a cool concept.
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  It's so much faster than air travel.
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  Even safer.
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  And uh I I was pretty hopeful.
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  So Musk open sourced that idea, and he let other independent startups try to build it.
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  The most famous of the startups was Hyperloop One, which is backed by Richard Branson and Virgin.
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  And they went through hundreds of millions of dollars before going bankrupt.
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  And they completely shut down in late 2023.
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  So the sci-fi pod dream is essentially dead.
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  It died with that company.
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  When Richard Branson and Virgin went bankrupt in 2023, just less than three years ago.
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  Uh this dream died all together.
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  So separate from that is the Boring Company and what they did with the abandoned, what's known as the abandoned California tunnels.
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  So the Boring Company did not build a commercial hyperloop, but they did attempt several major tunnel projects that ultimately got scrapped or they just literally got paved over.
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  And these include the Hawthorne Test Tunnel, uh, nicknamed the the Pod Track.
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  So the Boring Company did build a 1.14 mile test tunnel in Hawthorne, California.
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  Uh, right next to the SpaceX headquarters.
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  So for a few years, Elon Musk used this tunnel to host hyperloop pod competitions for engineering students.
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  But in late 2022, the tunnel was dismantled and quietly filled to create more surface level parking spaces for SpaceX employees.
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  It kind of funny how Elon Musk doesn't announce those kinds of things.
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  He just quietly pulled the plug on it, filled the tunnels, and you never really heard anything about it again.
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  Another one was was the West Side LA tunnel.
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  And uh the Boring Company had a lot of plans to dig a 2.7 mile tunnel under Los Angeles's infamous 405 freeway to test their underground transport um.
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  In late 2018, local neighborhood coalitions sued the boring company and the city.
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  And they were arguing that they were illegally trying to bypass California's strict environmental review processes.
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  The boring company settled the lawsuit and abandoned the project entirely.
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  So kind of sad.
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  Uh the Dodger Stadium is is the third and final failed project.
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  That's the uh nicknamed the dugout loop.
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  So after canceling the West Side Tunnel, the Boring Company pivoted to a proposed 3.6 mile underground route to shuttle fans directly into Dodger Stadium.
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  So it had a lot of fanfare, people were excited about it, and this project quietly evaporated and has not been mentioned by the company ever again.
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  It's been years since the company mentioned it.
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  And it's it's kind of sad, but uh it doesn't stop Elon Musk.
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  Yeah, I think a lot of people, a lot of naysayers were like, oh, well, see, this this just proves it's never gonna work, it can't work.
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  Uh look, he failed.
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  He ran literally ran a business out of out of uh out of business.
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  They went bankrupt trying to do this hyperloop concept.
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  They sunk hundreds of millions of dollars into it, went belly up, and it's just not gonna work.
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  I think it'd be easy to come to that conclusion.
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  I don't blame people for coming to that conclusion.
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  But the reality is this is this is part of innovation.
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  Look at how many failures Elon Musk had with SpaceX.
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  Just failure after failure after failure.
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  And now he literally can successfully land the rockets right back on the on the on the pads on the launching pads.
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  That's incredible.
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  It's never been done before.
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  Engineers said there's no way that that can work.
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  And then he took it a step further, and he did the whole um what it what's he called them the chopsticks.
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  Now that is stinking cool.
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  And he draws millions of fans all over the United States because it's just it's this modern modern Marvel, and my kids and I watch it all the time.
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  We we watch rocket launches because it's just such a cool process.
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  It's incredible.
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  But look how many failures it took.
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  I think that's going to be the important message today is none of us should ever be afraid of failure.
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  I'm sure Elon Musk still to this day gets mocked for the whole hyperloop idea and and and of course the boring company, but the boring company is doing a lot of stuff currently, right now in March of 2026.
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  And there are successful systems in place that are being used across the United States.
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  The future of travel is here in America.
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  And this isn't really talked about publicly.
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  I think millions of Americans don't even have an idea that this kind of stuff is going on.
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  But Elon Musk's the Boring Company, TBC, has been quietly working.
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  And boring underground.
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  And they're revolutionizing travel in the United States of America.
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  This is incredible.
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  And I get really excited about this because I just I don't like traffic.
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  I don't like foot traffic.
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  I think about the safety issues of trying to cross over roads as a pedestrian in cities in urban areas.
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  When I take my kids to uh to heavily densely populated urban areas into the cities, I I just don't, I'm not comfortable.
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  I don't like it.
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  Now I know people who live there are probably laughing and they're like, oh, you know, you you little uh country boy, little redneck.
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  But uh I just I've seen too many things go bad, and I know how people drive.
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  I I I have uh two about two and a half million miles under my belt on the road, and I am very aware of how people drive.
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  And uh, after you spend a couple million miles on the road, you you learn that there are a lot of bad drivers out there on the road, and as a pedestrian trying to get through a city, it just doesn't, it doesn't work well, and the amount of rage that people have.
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  We're seeing more and more too.
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  If you've noticed in the news over the last, I don't know, probably four or five years.
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  We've seen people getting angry and using their vehicles as weapons to drive into pedestrians, and sadly, this this is a growing trend here in America, and I don't I don't like it.
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  It's um it's scary.
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  There, there's not a whole lot you can do as a pedestrian.
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  If a car is flying into uh into a crowd of people, uh how do you get out of that?
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  How do you avoid that?
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  You know, you're at the mercy of the crowd around you.
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  And hoping and praying that somehow the driver's stopped, but I gotta tell you, it's it's very dangerous, and that's a reality, unfortunately, that we're living with.
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  So when there are solutions to problems, I'm all ears.
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  And I really like that about what Elon Musk is doing.
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  And I don't think he gets enough credit, honestly for the genius.
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  Yeah, he started with this huge idea with a hyperloop that's largely, if not completely, been abandoned, at least for now.
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  But he it didn't deter him.
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  He's like, you know what?
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  We'll just uh we'll try some more innovation, and we'll just stick with the boring company, and we'll do these smaller scale tunnels.
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  They're a lot cheaper to build.
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  And uh, so here's what he did this month, and then I'll go back to some of the history of the boring company because I just think it's really cool.
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  Uh a bunch of cities are actually I I think we're down to two right now, but several cities could potentially see major underground transportation upgrades, which is led by Elon Musk's the boring company, TBC.
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  This is a Fox business article.
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  Elon Musk's boring company eyes underground tunnel projects in two major U.S.
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  cities.
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  New Orleans and Dallas were named candidates.
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  Baltimore originally was, but I don't know what happened in Baltimore, but that fell through.
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  So at least for now.
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  But on a on a post last week on X, the Boring Company named the winners of its nationwide tunnel vision challenge, naming New Orleans and Dallas, Texas as candidates for new transportation systems.
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  The company wrote, thanks again to all the participants.
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  Your enthusiasm and positivity has been inspiring for the TBC team.
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  Again, Baltimore, Maryland was named a winner earlier this month, but TBC announced Wednesday that the project will not move forward following early discussions.
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  That's kind of sad.
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  Um, but the next phase involves collaboration with local officials and regulators, along with geotechnical to determine feasibility.
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  So uh according to the article in a Wednesday update, TBC provided additional details on its early discussions with local leaders in both Dallas and New Orleans, saying that both projects had great initial meetings.
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  Two additional cities, Hendersonville, Tennessee, and San Antonio, Texas remain under consideration as discussions continue.
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  One of the really cool things is that the boring company is fully funding these projects.
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  So these are basically it was a challenge for engineers to give proposals, I guess, for how they were going to use these, and and uh it had something to do with kind of testing the the science, open source science.
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  Elon Musk is all about open source, and I think that's a huge part of why he's so successful.
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  He absolutely hates patents, and he said how patents um when you patent something, he said that that discourages um it discourages growth.
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  And what it encourages is for people to hold on to their idea and to shroud it in secrecy, and he's like that that doesn't really benefit mankind.
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  He's like, Yeah, it might benefit a company for a time, but eventually it does starve the company out, and it doesn't help mankind.
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  And people can laugh all day long about his whole concept for that, but he is after all the richest man in the world, so I think he knows a thing or two about building successful companies.
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  So his companies are all open source, and he he just he sources the best engineers and the best scientists from all over the world, literally.
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  And it's one great huge collaboration, but he also with open source, those ideas are out there, and so other companies benefit from that as well.
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  And and Musk has talked about that.
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  He's like, I there may be somebody who builds a better electric vehicle than Tesla.
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  And he said, if that's the case, fantastic.
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  Let's celebrate that.
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  At the end of the day, it's about building better technology that helps mankind.
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  And that's what I absolutely love about his whole concept.
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  Yeah, it's not about gripping, having having a tight grip on your own company and your ideas and making sure that nobody else, nobody else gets your secrets.
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  It's about being fully transparent, saying, no, here's the science that we use.
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  Here are the concepts, here are the ideas.
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  See if you can make it better.
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  See if you can improve on it.
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  And that's really important.
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  So the challenge here, which launched in January of this year, it invited proposals for a one-mile tunnel concept.
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  And the winning concept promised a free build.
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  Uh separately, the boring company was recently selected to begin negotiations on a proposed underground transit system connecting Universal Orlando's parks.
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  So it sounds like that's uh that's a contracted thing with Disney.
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  And again, this is it's just it's the brilliance of Elon Musk.
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  And I know the guy is he's a very strange interesting individual.
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  But this is just genius.
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  It's so smart, and he's doing so many things, and uh he's working on these big solar fields in Europe.
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  He's working on the Boring Company here in the United States.
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  He has Tesla.
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  He owns SpaceX.
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  He's contracted with NASA and the federal government.
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  I mean, it's just on and on and on it goes.
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  And not to mention, he bought Twitter, now X.
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  And it's it's just so wild to me.
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  I mean, this is a guy who started in in his garage, literally.
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  Sleeping on a couch, him and his brother, and working 12 hour days, 16 hour days, not making any money.
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  And he just he could not and still cannot to this day, he can't put his ideas to rest.
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  And look at how the entire world has changed.
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  Oh, I forgot one.
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  At least one.
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  Starlink.
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  Starlink satellites.
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  Owned by Elon Musk.
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  It's just everything he touches.
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  He turns to gold, but it's because of his open source system.
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  It's things like this.
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  You know, the winning concept.
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  Submit your concept, and the winning concept gets a free tunnel, a free one mile tunnel.
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  That's brilliant.
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  And I think one of the things that that really does, and it's probably why he's doing this for free.
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  What it really does is it gives him free advertising, free marketing.
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  Because people are talking about this now, and these cities are going to be dramatically improved by these systems.
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  So the company's most notable project is the Las Vegas Convention Center, the LVC, Las Vegas Convention Center Loop, which opened in 2021 after a year of construction.
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  I mean, it's it's in use today.
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  I would love I I just spent some time in Vegas about a year ago.
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  We flew into Vegas, uh, my wife and the kids, and we did our our vacation out west.
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  And I wasn't even thinking.
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  If I would have been thinking about this, if I would have planned a little bit better, I I could have had us ride the loop from the convention center just for the experience.
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  I I've never done anything like that, and I I think it'd be really cool.
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  So the Las Vegas convention center loop.
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  It reduced a 45-minute walk across the convention campus to down to two minutes.
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  45 minute walk down to two minutes.
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  That's pretty cool.
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  Uh the Vegas Loop was later expanded in 2024 to 2.1 miles and five stations.
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  And that's not the only current project that uh that's open right now.
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  There's also the resorts world and uncore connectors.
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  Uh has been expanded, as I mentioned.
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  So it connects to Resorts World Las Vegas that opened in 2024, and the Encore Las Vegas Convention Center connector that went fully operational in 2025.
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  So it turns a 15-minute rush hour drive into a 55-second underground trip.
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  That's pretty cool.
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  How about the cyber tunnel?
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  This is a purpose-built industrial tunnel at the Tessa Giga Factory in Austin, Texas.
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  It moves finalized cyber trucks directly from the production line to a staging area across an eight-lane highway.
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  How do you get across an eight-lane highway?
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  Well, you just bore underground, build yourself a tunnel.
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  That's the Elon Musk Way.
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  And then there's the Hawthorne Test Tunnel.
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  That's a 1.14 mile research and development tunnel in California where the boring company tests its tunnel boring machines.
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  I mean, this guy, I don't think he ever sleeps.
• 34:12
  He's talked about that before.
• 34:13
  He's like, yeah, I you wouldn't want to be inside of my head for 30 seconds.
• 34:19
  And Elon Musk talks about how he's a tormented person because his ideas just never stop.
• 34:26
  And he can't sit on his hands.
• 34:28
  He he can't, he's not satisfied if he has an idea and he doesn't do something about it.
• 34:34
  And that ties into the hidden lightness.
• 34:38
  You know, when people are driven, even if it sounds like the most ridiculous idea in the world, or something that's impossible.
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  Just just do it.
• 34:51
  What are we doing now?
• 34:54
  Well, we're about to go to the to the moon.
• 34:59
  Like very soon.
• 35:01
  And now they're talking about what?
• 35:05
  Building human human camps or encampments on the surface of the moon.
• 35:14
  It's where scientists will stay.
• 35:16
  They'll live on the moon.
• 35:19
  Who's behind that?
• 35:21
  Uh, let's see here.
• 35:22
  Oh, yeah.
• 35:23
  Elon Musk.
• 35:25
  I mean, it's just incredible.
• 35:27
  And if you know if you recall, he started with Mars.
• 35:31
  We're gonna colonize Mars.
• 35:33
  And he was just, he was like full bored with that.
• 35:35
  We're gonna colonize Mars.
• 35:37
  We're gonna start building in, you know, like basically right now.
• 35:41
  We're in five years, ten years or something like that.
• 35:45
  He said, we're gonna be fully colonized on Mars.
• 35:50
  We will have people living full time on Mars.
• 35:56
  Well, that idea, I think, has mostly been scrapped.
• 36:03
  So where does he focus?
• 36:05
  Well, let's scale that down a little bit.
• 36:07
  Let's start with his big promise.
• 36:10
  And when we realize that it's just it's too expensive or it's it's not possible or whatever.
• 36:16
  All right, well, let's instead of putting our tail between our legs, let's just focus on the moon.
• 36:24
  Wait, we could we could build that on the moon.
• 36:27
  And that's exactly what he's doing.
• 36:29
  The hyperloop.
• 36:30
  Hey, let's start with the hyperloop.
• 36:32
  We're gonna build this massive 700 mile an hour uh vacuum tunnel across America.
• 36:40
  We're gonna start by connecting LA to what was it, um, San Francisco or whatever.
• 36:48
  That we're we're gonna connect major cities in California, and people are gonna get there in a matter of minutes.
• 36:56
  That idea got scrapped.
• 36:59
  The company that tried it went bankrupt.
• 37:03
  So what's he do?
• 37:05
  Oh, we'll just have the boring company build these tunnels, these these shorter versions, and we'll use Teslas as taxicabs to taxi people underground.
• 37:18
  It's highly successful and super cheap.
• 37:23
  So it's not a failure.
• 37:28
  It's just a different concept.
• 37:30
  But he begins with these massive dreams, and then he scales them down.
• 37:36
  I I think it's just brilliant.
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  The boring company just gave awards.
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  They're giving free tunnels, a free one-mile tunnel in two major U.S.
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  cities.
• 39:19
  And it's in Los Sorry, no, it's in Dallas and New Orleans.
• 39:30
  And this was uh a really big deal, I think.
• 39:33
  I think this is huge.
• 39:35
  I think it's absolutely huge.
• 39:37
  And the implications for the way travel and public transit is moving in America is really, really important.
• 39:45
  It's important on a whole lot of different levels.
• 39:49
  So one is we know, we know this for a fact, right?
• 39:53
  We know that we have limited resources here on Earth.
• 39:58
  Now I think we have a lot more oil.
• 40:00
  Than what we really think is there.
• 40:05
  Because Elon Musk has hinted at that.
• 40:07
  And he is really secretive about that.
• 40:09
  But he said, yeah, he's like, we have a lot more oil than what scientists are really indicating.
• 40:22
  And then he, and then he's just like, like, he's pretty cryptic about it.
• 40:26
  And he basically hints that we have enough for hundreds, hundreds of years.
• 40:33
  At our current usage.
• 40:37
  All right, so it's not going to run out anytime soon.
• 40:41
  However, it is a non-rebu renewable resource.
• 40:46
  We will run out of oil.
• 40:47
  We will run out of coal.
• 40:49
  We will run out of natural gas.
• 40:52
  We will run out of helium.
• 40:56
  You know, there are certain elements that they're just not going to last forever.
• 41:01
  So we need to do something about it.
• 41:03
  That's a fact.
• 41:05
  That's not some conspiracy theory that this is just fact.
• 41:10
  All right.
• 41:10
  So we know that.
• 41:12
  We also know that America's transportation system is light years behind, let's say, Europe.
• 41:22
  They have a wonderful public transportation system.
• 41:27
  Their rails are incredible.
• 41:30
  Fully electric.
• 41:31
  I've ridden them.
• 41:33
  I rode them, oh my goodness, uh 25, 26 years ago.
• 41:42
  Almost 30 years ago.
• 41:44
  And I could not believe how modern and clean and quiet and fast their rail system was.
• 41:52
  I took it across Germany and Switzerland.
• 41:55
  You could go just about anywhere.
• 41:59
  I mean, so fast, so connected.
• 42:02
  And they run through all of Europe.
• 42:04
  They you can ride them across multiple countries.
• 42:07
  It's just a really good system.
• 42:10
  And it's been in place for a long time.
• 42:14
  We have the technology to do it, but we just we don't for whatever reason.
• 42:19
  We just don't do it here.
• 42:22
  Our rail system is very, very clunky.
• 42:26
  It's outdated.
• 42:28
  It takes you, I don't know, a week to get across the United States in a train.
• 42:37
  They're slow, they go through towns.
• 42:40
  Um it's it's just a clunky system.
• 42:46
  So there's that component.
• 42:48
  And then there's the crowded highways.
• 42:51
  We do have an incredible highway system.
• 42:54
  It is really, really incredible.
• 42:57
  It really is.
• 43:00
  But it still takes you forever.
• 43:04
  The United States of America is a very big country.
• 43:08
  It takes forever to get across it.
• 43:12
  I've driven it many, many, many times.
• 43:15
  And it just takes time.
• 43:17
  It's tedious.
• 43:20
  I mean, it's great.
• 43:21
  I love the independence.
• 43:22
  I think it's fantastic.
• 43:26
  But it's it's just not, it's not great.
• 43:28
  It's not perfect.
• 43:31
  When you get into cities, there's always congestion.
• 43:35
  You want to talk about now.
• 43:37
  I talked about road rage earlier.
• 43:39
  I get road rage.
• 43:41
  Now I'm not an angry person, so I say this in jest.
• 43:47
  I don't really have road rage.
• 43:49
  I don't, I never cut people off.
• 43:53
  I don't ride people's bumpers.
• 43:54
  I don't do things like that.
• 43:55
  It's just, it's so foolish and immature.
• 43:59
  But my patience does run thin every time I drive through either Chicago or New York City, New York City, especially.
• 44:09
  Oh my goodness.
• 44:12
  Drives me insane.
• 44:13
  Nashville's gotten really bad.
• 44:15
  Nashville traffic is horrible.
• 44:18
  You used to used to be able to breeze through Nashville.
• 44:23
  And now it's it's almost like it doesn't matter what time of day.
• 44:26
  There's just always standstill traffic.
• 44:31
  So it's it's an issue in all of our cities.
• 44:34
  And then you get off the highways, and it's even worse.
• 44:38
  It takes forever.
• 44:39
  I don't have the patience to live in a city.
• 44:41
  I don't like cities to begin with.
• 44:43
  I just I'm a good old country boy.
• 44:46
  Uh I don't like urban areas.
• 44:48
  They're fun to visit, but I just couldn't live there.
• 44:52
  It takes a tremendous amount of patience to deal with the traffic.
• 44:57
  All the congestion.
• 44:59
  I just ugh gives me the creeps just talking about it.
• 45:04
  So there are so many different issues, and I think that this kind of transportation, the underground transportation fixes a lot of this.
• 45:14
  And then I mentioned the pedestrian issue.
• 45:17
  People walking out in front of traffic.
• 45:19
  Think of all the drunks and people who are hooped up on drugs, stumbling out into the streets.
• 45:25
  I don't like driving in cities.
• 45:28
  Because of pedestrians.
• 45:40
  Give me the country all day long.
• 45:42
  But people live in urban areas.
• 45:45
  Millions and millions and millions of people live in urban areas.
• 45:48
  So there is a solution.
• 45:51
  And the Boring Company is, I think, the solution to this.
• 45:54
  This is huge.
• 45:55
  I don't think this gets nearly enough media attention.
• 45:58
  Like I'm really excited about this.
• 46:01
  So I want to talk about some of the proposed and active projects.
• 46:05
  The Boring Company is currently in its most active construction and expansion phase to date.
• 46:13
  There are several massive municipal projects in the pipeline for 2026 and beyond.
• 46:22
  There's the Vegas Loop.
• 46:24
  The Boring Company is expanding as the Vegas footprint into a massive 68 mile 90 station network.
• 46:34
  Once it's complete, it's going to connect Harry Reed International Airport, Allegiant Stadium, and downtown Vegas.
• 46:44
  It'll be able to handle 90,000 passengers per hour.
• 46:53
  Just so cool.
• 46:56
  Then there's the Music City loop.
• 46:57
  I mentioned Nashville.
• 47:01
  Nashville is a disaster to try to get through in a car.
• 47:05
  Just absolute monstrosity of a city.
• 47:09
  And I love it.
• 47:10
  I love Nashville.
• 47:11
  I have family in Nashville.
• 47:14
  But to try to get across the city is it's it's a nightmare.
• 47:17
  So the Music City Loop was announced in mid-2025, just last year.
• 47:24
  And it's a fully privately funded 10-mile underground transit system connecting downtown Nashville to the Nashville International Airport.
• 47:34
  Brilliant.
• 47:46
  And the first operational segment is targeted for late this year or early 2027.
• 47:54
  Then, as we mentioned, there were the Tunnel Vision Challenge winners in March 2026.
• 48:04
  I mean, literally just a few days ago.
• 48:06
  The Boring Company surprised three American cities.
• 48:10
  Now it's two, because Baltimore, for whatever reason, got dropped.
• 48:15
  But they offered to fully fund and build a free one-mile tunnel for each city.
• 48:24
  That's really cool.
• 48:28
  Then there's the Dubai loop.
• 48:32
  Dubai International.
• 48:34
  This broke ground or it is breaking ground in 2026.
• 48:40
  And the pilot route will span about four miles and connect the Dubai International Center with a Dubai Mall.
• 48:52
  All right, so what about the future?
• 48:53
  Where's this all going?
• 48:55
  Where do we see this going?
• 48:56
  Realistically.
• 48:59
  Realistically.
• 49:00
  Where do we see travel going?
• 49:03
  The boring company's vision really rests on moving urban transportation into what they call 3D space.
• 49:12
  Which is just a fancy word for underground.
• 49:16
  Sounds really cool.
• 49:17
  You're like, man, 3D space, that's so cool.
• 49:19
  Well, it's underground.
• 49:22
  To bypass the physical constraints and the congestion of the surface level roads.
• 49:30
  And so the model is built on three core pillars.
• 49:32
  There's point-to-point travel.
• 49:36
  Unlike the traditional subways that stop at every single station.
• 49:41
  Yeah.
• 49:42
  It drives me nuts.
• 49:45
  I mean, it's still really cool.
• 49:47
  I love subways.
• 49:49
  I love the tea in Pittsburgh.
• 49:51
  I use it all the time.
• 49:52
  I think it's fantastic.
• 49:55
  It's also free.
• 49:56
  The section that I ride is free because it's funded by
• 50:00
  The Pittsburgh Steelers and the Pirates and the Penguins.
• 50:05
  They all pitched together, and they funded, fully funded a whole section, a pretty big section, by the way, of the subway in Pittsburgh.
• 50:18
  So I don't like parking by the stadiums when we go to watch baseball games.
• 50:22
  I can't stand parking anywhere near the stadium.
• 50:27
  So I park on our side of the city.
• 50:32
  So that gets us out a lot quicker.
• 50:34
  So we park at a um, we park at a parking garage and then we jump on the T, but it stops at every single stop every single time.
• 50:47
  And sometimes it breaks down, and sometimes it's you get rowdy passengers that shut it down, and you know, on and on and on.
• 50:58
  So the loop passengers for the Boring Company, they board a dedicated electrical vehicle.
• 51:06
  Currently it's Teslas, but potentially it's going to be high capacity autonomous robovans in the future.
• 51:14
  Right now, there's a there's a human driver for everyone.
• 51:18
  Uh but that's going to change.
• 51:20
  That will change pretty quickly.
• 51:23
  But it takes a it takes you directly to your destination with no intermediate stops.
• 51:29
  That's brilliant.
• 51:32
  And it's efficient.
• 51:36
  All right.
• 51:37
  Number two, core pillar number two, smaller, cheaper tunnels.
• 51:42
  Standard subway tunnels are massive, and they cost about one billion with a B, one billion dollars per mile.
• 51:52
  That is insane.
• 51:55
  The Boring Company cuts costs by digging a much narrower tunnel.
• 52:00
  It's only about 12 feet in diameter.
• 52:03
  And it's specifically suited for EVs.
• 52:07
  The Boring Company claims that it uh lets them lets them dig for a fraction of the cost, about 10 million to 20 million per mile.
• 52:14
  Still a lot of money, but that's a fraction of the cost.
• 52:18
  And then core pillar number three, continuous digging.
• 52:24
  So using the custom proofrock tunnel, boring machines, the boring company can launch machines directly from the surface on a ramp, continuously installing tunnel walls while digging.
• 52:43
  That's pretty cool.
• 52:44
  So as they're boring, they're they're laying walls.
• 52:49
  They don't have to stop, they don't have to bore, then come back and build the supports, and they literally lay the walls that are, I guess, prefabricated.
• 52:59
  But they continuously install tunnel walls as they dig and surface at the destination without needing massive disruptive excavation pits in the middle of the city.
• 53:14
  It's so cool.
• 53:15
  It's like a sci-fi, like this strange creepy tunnel thing that you just see it like kind of nosedive into the ground.
• 53:26
  It reminds me a little bit of stranger things.
• 53:32
  It's kind of that creepy, weird sci-fi craziness.
• 53:38
  It's so cool.
• 53:39
  I love it.
• 53:39
  I love that we have this technology.
• 53:43
  And so the short answer is this.
• 53:47
  What we're current currently doing, what Elon Musk is currently doing with the Boring Company, it has the potential to dramatically lower infrastructure costs.
• 53:57
  But it's an evolution.
• 54:00
  Right?
• 54:01
  This isn't a final concept.
• 54:02
  It's it's it's an evolution of point-to-point transit rather than his high-speed sci-fi revolution that he initially pitched with the hyperloop.
• 54:16
  So can this revolutionize American travel as we know it?
• 54:21
  Well, again, the short answer is yes, of course.
• 54:27
  Now it's not going to take us across the country.
• 54:30
  That's what I envisioned.
• 54:31
  Now, when Elon Musk first said that, I was like, man, if you could build a hyperloop between cities at 700 miles an hour, can you imagine?
• 54:40
  You could you could run coast to coast if you go non-stop, coast to coast, 2500 miles, straight line, 2500 miles, would take just a hair over 3.5 hours.
• 54:57
  So I like I was trust me, I put a lot of thought into this.
• 55:01
  I was like, man, the hyperloop is gonna revolutionize travel in the United States so much faster than an airport, uh, so much safer, uh, a lot less can break, just such a cool idea.
• 55:14
  Well, that's scrapped for now.
• 55:17
  So at any rate.
• 55:20
  Uh the case for revolution is that yes, it will revolutionize travel.
• 55:26
  It is revolutionizing travel in the United States.
• 55:30
  The Boring Company originally promised high-speed pods that traveled 150 miles an hour.
• 55:37
  That's separate from the hyperloop.
• 55:39
  The hyperloop is scrapped.
• 55:41
  So the Boring Company originally promised these high-speed pods at about 150 miles an hour, but right now the system operates using modified Tesla SUVs driven by human chauffeurs at around 30 to 40 miles per hour.
• 55:57
  Uh so they have yet to achieve the massage massive passenger um output, I guess, of a traditional subway system.
• 56:10
  But they're getting there.
• 56:13
  And I think this thing's gonna continue to evolve.
• 56:15
  I think this is great, great news for America.
• 56:18
  Uh, keep your eyes open for the boring company.
• 56:22
  Lots and lots of developments happening right now this year as we speak.
• 56:27
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