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09/09/26 - Hour 2 · The Huddle

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  Speaker 1: 877-794-1973.
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  Speaker 2: Get to the NicoletLaw.com talk and text line. Hot takes
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  Speaker 2: are plenty. If you just want to dunk on the
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  Speaker 2: cups and just enjoy. We will very much allow that.
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  Speaker 2: We welcome those things. We welcome those dogs. Dropping the
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  Speaker 2: magic number to seven. 7 come 11.
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  Speaker 3: You get to 11, you'll already be division champions. You'll
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  Speaker 3: be hunting down that number one seed because the number
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  Speaker 3: one seed magic number is 15.
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  Speaker 2: Bye is at 14.
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  Speaker 3: And postseason at 5.
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  Speaker 2: Now, here's my hot take, guys, to start this thing off.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go. MLB teams, this has been the tradition, Brewers, too.
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  Speaker 1: They traditionally have done a champagne celebration or a, you know, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: you know, basically.
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  Speaker 2: A regular celebration. Plastic over the lock.
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  Speaker 1: Plastic celebration at the playoff clinch. Now, the Brewers have
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  Speaker 1: had a muted one in the past where they just
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  Speaker 1: raised glasses. I say don't even just wait for the division.
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  Speaker 1: We don't even need to worry about it because we
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  Speaker 1: already know we're making the playoffs and we're going to
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  Speaker 1: win the division.
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  Speaker 2: And both are about to happen soon. So just wait
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  Speaker 2: for the division to clinch. Yeah, I don't think you, Mark,
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  Speaker 2: clinching a playoff berth is nice, but I don't think
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  Speaker 2: you celebrate that.
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  Speaker 1: And unfortunately, it looks like we're going to clinch it
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  Speaker 1: on the road anyway, although you don't know. Maybe you
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  Speaker 1: could clinch it at home, but it'll probably be Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 1: or Baltimore. So you can't do it in front of
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  Speaker 1: the home crowd anyway. So just let's get someone else's
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  Speaker 1: carpet dirty. All right, let's get someone else's carpet dirty
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  Speaker 1: and just let's just do.
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  Speaker 2: The division clinch.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not one of these guys that is necessarily like anti-fun,
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  Speaker 1: although Billy sometimes accuses me of that when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to court storming, gatekeeping and field storming.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that it is a commonality with a
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  Speaker 2: lot of your takes. Yeah, well, okay. But, like, maybe
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  Speaker 2: I could see why.
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  Speaker 1: Now, if they want to do two celebrations, that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: But I just feel like letting it all explode in
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  Speaker 1: one would be more fun. And you know you're going
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  Speaker 1: to win the division. I can see where you're like, well,
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  Speaker 1: we have to do the wild card or the playoff
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  Speaker 1: because you don't know what.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to make. Armand wants to be celebration police.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm cool with both, but I think it'd be
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  Speaker 1: cool if we just did the division because we don't
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  Speaker 1: need the.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to happen within a quick order. I was
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  Speaker 3: going to say with an eyelash of each other. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I do appreciate that you don't want there to be
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  Speaker 3: any pre. Pre-explosion.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Some would say pre-bubble up, right? We don't want that.
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  Speaker 3: We want it all to pop at one time there
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  Speaker 3: with the champagne corks and everything all through.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. To Harmon's point, if you celebrate the division, then
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  Speaker 2: do you celebrate the one seed or do you celebrate
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  Speaker 2: the pie?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: I think you cheers a beer with the boys when
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  Speaker 3: you lock up the onesie, but I think you cheers
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  Speaker 3: a beer with.
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  Speaker 2: The boys when you get to the playoffs. I think
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  Speaker 2: the division is plastic over the lockers. The rest could
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  Speaker 2: be subdued. Let's just toast and go. But, like, to me...
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  Speaker 2: Classic and stuff like that, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but, like, you clinch the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to be at home this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: If you clinch it on Saturday night, I want them
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  Speaker 3: to put it up on the screen. I want them
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  Speaker 3: to drop the confetti from the lights. And I want
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  Speaker 3: the boys to be able to go out on the field,
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  Speaker 3: grab an ice cold light beer from Miller. Because great
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  Speaker 3: moments start with a light. Legendary moments start with a light.
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  Speaker 3: Hold that thing up. and celebrate it with everybody, and
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  Speaker 3: then go in.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm with you.
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  Speaker 3: You don't need to go pomp and circumstance, get the
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  Speaker 3: Luis Lara baby stroller like they had for Jackson Shurio
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  Speaker 3: out for the champagne celebration quite yet.
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  Speaker 1: Do something for the fans at home. I'm down with that.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good idea.
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  Speaker 2: Not really for the fans, with the fans. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's more than anything of it. Do it with them.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that to join them in that celebration
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  Speaker 1: is something the fans do enjoy.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm good with that.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the thing is, MLB, I don't want to say
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  Speaker 1: requires it, But they might want you to do the
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  Speaker 1: shirts and all that stuff at the playoff clinch because
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  Speaker 1: that's what they issue now is a team shirt and
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  Speaker 1: a team for everybody in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, they'll give out the shirts and hats. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: That's just going to happen. So baseball is an interesting thing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know your opinion on it. Drew, you've been
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  Speaker 1: around obviously longer to see a lot of the playoff expansion.
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  Speaker 1: Baseball is unique, and people have always asked how come
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL and NBA we don't just clinch a
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  Speaker 1: playoff berth at every series and do a champagne celebration.
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  Speaker 1: Because the DNA of baseball was always there was less playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: So therefore, catching a division or a league was a
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  Speaker 1: very unique, hard thing to do.
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  Speaker 2: And there was less of it.
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  Speaker 1: And then it just evolved into celebrations every round with
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  Speaker 1: the increasing playoff rounds. So it is kind of a
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  Speaker 1: weird thing. And I know some people like NBA players
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  Speaker 1: have asked that. I remember when NBA players, I remember
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  Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade like 10, 20 years ago started asking, how
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  Speaker 1: come we can't do a champagne celebration after a first
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  Speaker 1: round playoff series win? But the reality is there's a
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  Speaker 1: possibility if you think about it for what, four or
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  Speaker 1: five champagne celebrations.
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  Speaker 2: So, hey, let's do them all. Why not?
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  Speaker 1: But I would say this year we can wait for
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  Speaker 1: the division because we're about to get it anyway.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what, Billy?
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  Speaker 1: Crack one open. That's cool with me too. His crack
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  Speaker 1: went open.
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  Speaker 3: I think last year they all toasted a glass of
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  Speaker 3: champagne maybe in the clubhouse.
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  Speaker 2: I think they will clinch a playoff berth this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: This weekend I think they'll clinch the playoff berth and
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  Speaker 3: then celebrate it that way.
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  Speaker 2: Next week probably the division. Now they win tonight. They
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  Speaker 2: might clinch the division this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Right? Like, I mean, at that point, that might be
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  Speaker 3: a little bit, the five games in three days is tough,
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  Speaker 3: no doubt about it. But definitely our boy Hunter is
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  Speaker 3: going to be gassing up that old Mazda, trying to
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  Speaker 3: get himself over to Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: Starting to think about that. Gas up the Mazda, baby.
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  Speaker 2: Gas up the plane. It's a nice quick drive. Let's
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  Speaker 2: put him on a PJ. Hot takes, 877-794.
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  Speaker 1: 197-3.
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  Speaker 2: We got cars. We're running a business here. Go ahead, Drew.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Hot take is a reminder that, you know, every out matters.
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  Speaker 2: And Jelich is 0-2 down to their last strike. Gets
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  Speaker 2: to 3-2 and gets a base hit. That, to me,
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  Speaker 2: was the moment last night. It wasn't maybe as electrifying
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  Speaker 2: as the Churrio-Homer to tie it, as the Lara walk-off,
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  Speaker 2: as even Mitchell throwing out a guy on the lead
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  Speaker 2: runner and getting the bases cleaned for D.L.
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  Speaker 1: Hall.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the moment, man. Nothing happens without that hit.
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  Speaker 3: No, everybody goes home very sad and frustrated. And instead,
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  Speaker 3: people are texting into us right after of saying, Yelich
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  Speaker 3: should change his number to 43. Because when the swing happens,
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  Speaker 3: I think everybody's anticipating either a K or a rollover
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  Speaker 3: ground ball. And instead, he laces one into right field,
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  Speaker 3: keeps the thing rolling. And for him to be able
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  Speaker 3: to come up in some of these big moments.
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  Speaker 2: Drew, you just.
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  Speaker 3: You can tell when certain, the team reacts to certain players.
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  Speaker 3: I think we said it a lot with Logan Henderson
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  Speaker 3: this year. And you can see by when he pitches,
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  Speaker 3: the team generally wins, right? Like there's certain guys that
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  Speaker 3: the team reacts to. Joey Ortiz offensively for a long time,
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  Speaker 3: the same way. They react extremely positive when he would
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  Speaker 3: have to do something, anything offensively.
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  Speaker 2: And Yelich is almost into that role now. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Hot take, why the one seed is better than the two.
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  Speaker 2: It's both great because you win the series, you don't play. Obviously.
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  Speaker 2: But having the home field and having Miz pitch game
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  Speaker 2: one of every series, if you can maneuver it that way,
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  Speaker 2: is an advantage. And the Brewers, if they win tonight,
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  Speaker 2: will be 50-25 at home. Whoa. What about a number
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  Speaker 2: like that? They're 49-25 right now. So if they win tonight,
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  Speaker 2: they're 50-25. That's symmetrical, 25 over. Holy cow. And they've
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  Speaker 2: won 10 straight home series. And in home series this year,
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  Speaker 2: they're 19-4-1. Playing at home. So it might be an advantage.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. That number surprised me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not surprising that they win at home a lot,
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  Speaker 3: but I guess- They win everywhere. That insane volume at
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  Speaker 3: home is wild. Now, they're about to play a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of road games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Free city roads coming up. We're down to like
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  Speaker 2: two home series left, right?
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  Speaker 3: Reds coming up and then the Cardinals to close it out.
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  Speaker 3: Two weekend series and both going up on NFL Sundays,
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  Speaker 3: which is a tough Sunday to make a game happen.
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  Speaker 2: So the Brewers are- They're 49 to 25 at home. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that kind of slaps my home series wins. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 2: that kind of slaps my.
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  Speaker 3: Idea away because I was potentially more intrigued by the
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  Speaker 3: two seed for the CS with the opportunity. You steal
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  Speaker 3: one on the road. You never get back on a plane, right?
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  Speaker 3: Like then you shut the box at home. You win
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  Speaker 3: your three at home and it's over. Odds are you're
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  Speaker 3: not winning, you're not sweeping a three-game series ever. And
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  Speaker 3: now that's just what you see a lot throughout the
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  Speaker 3: entirety of the regular season.
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  Speaker 2: But you bring up the game one at home.
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  Speaker 3: You can point it out to a couple of their
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  Speaker 3: other guys. Like Miz at home on the mound is
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  Speaker 3: maybe the most important because he is a different beast
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  Speaker 3: when that mound is not a problem at all, when
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  Speaker 3: it's not a thought in his imagination. Goodness gracious, we
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  Speaker 3: got a lot of guys whose home road splits are
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  Speaker 3: pretty good. But if I'm having... Miz start game one.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to take my chances in game two. And
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  Speaker 3: that allows you to go and throw Logan Henderson on
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  Speaker 3: the road in game three. And I feel confident that
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  Speaker 3: that dude's stuff is going to play anytime, anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you.
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  Speaker 3: That stacks up even better when you put it together,
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  Speaker 3: I think, on paper that way.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you. I also think people have to
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  Speaker 2: remember that.
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  Speaker 1: What we think of as starters and relievers in the
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: regular season, remember, it's totally different in the playoffs. We're
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  Speaker 1: talking about inning to inning, out to out. Aaron Ashby
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  Speaker 1: starting one of these games. It's stuff like that. It's
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  Speaker 1: McGill in the first. It's Ashby. It's... You know, even
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  Speaker 1: when we think of Harrison and his struggles lately, it's
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  Speaker 1: not going to be about, like, can Harrison get through?
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  Speaker 2: It's like, can you give him two or three?
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  Speaker 1: It's a much more, you know, pitch-to-pitch, match-to-match.
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  Speaker 2: Type of situation.
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  Speaker 1: So let's just keep that in mind when we think of, like,
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  Speaker 1: who can be our starters and who can be our
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  Speaker 1: relievers and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: Dobler had a good one on YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a great year watching little-known Lara tear up
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: AAA pitching with Nashville and seeing the consistency and defensive
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  Speaker 1: prowess continue to grow.
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  Speaker 2: At the MLB level with the Brewers. Yes, Dobler, gotta
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  Speaker 2: give him credit.
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  Speaker 1: He's always been locked in on the minor leagues this year,
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: giving us updates. I thought it was interesting he didn't
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: give us any Garrett Mitchell updates last night. Usually when
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: we hear from Doppler, it's Garrett Mitchell didn't do this.
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: Garrett had a nice game last night, Doppler. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: you're right. Offensively left a little something, but yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but he had, you know, hey, he's up to seven, what,
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  Speaker 1: 60 OPS, 765?
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  Speaker 3: 0 for 4 with three Ks. That's very generous over there.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But listen, the one that I.
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  Speaker 3: Would roll with, you look at this Brewers team and
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  Speaker 3: the trades that have been made, the trades that you
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  Speaker 3: don't make, and you're like, The trade that you made
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  Speaker 3: a couple of years ago for Corbin Burns is becoming
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  Speaker 3: and looking- more and more here in 2026, like one
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  Speaker 3: of the best trades that you've been able to pull over. Now, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: Burns was at the end of his line here because
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  Speaker 3: of the contract that was going to be doled out
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  Speaker 3: to him.
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  Speaker 2: But if you remember who you get, you get D.L.
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  Speaker 3: Hall, who has been, results not tremendous in his three
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  Speaker 3: years with the Brewers. This year, his war for Armin, 1.5,
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  Speaker 3: missed a couple of months with the injury. And he
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  Speaker 3: might be one of your best weapons coming out of
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  Speaker 3: the bullpen. He's going to loom large in the playoff.
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  Speaker 3: He's really helped this year. In 23, he was out
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  Speaker 3: of the bullpen with the Orioles. And that was where
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  Speaker 3: he got a ton of his heat coming into the
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: offseason when the Brewers acquired him in 24. And then
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that much has to be said about
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  Speaker 3: the reemergence or the emergence of Joey Ortiz. He's been
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  Speaker 3: for a long time people's, a lot of people's favorite player,
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  Speaker 3: a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of people's least favorite player on the Brewers.
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  Speaker 3: But the 255 average and the 705 OPS doesn't tell
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  Speaker 3: the full story as to how he's swinging the bat
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  Speaker 3: right now. You make deals, Drew, and you hope that
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  Speaker 3: you get big league players. Right now you're getting two
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  Speaker 3: guys that I think are going to be massive swing
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  Speaker 3: pieces if you can actually get to your second World
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  Speaker 3: Series in franchise history.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. That's a good analysis. Hashtag analysis. Yes, D.L.
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  Speaker 2: Hall this year. Great numbers. Talk about it. Joey O, D.L. Hall, yeah. Burns.
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  Speaker 2: 212 ERA, the whip. A year on the shelf. That's
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  Speaker 2: the other part.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like, the year on the shelf is one
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  Speaker 3: thing that you just can't overlook for Burns. Yeah, for
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  Speaker 3: the Brewers especially. And the Orioles had him for one year,
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  Speaker 3: didn't want to pay him. And that's ultimately what you get.
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  Speaker 2: They should have kept him, man. They should have kept him.
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  Speaker 3: And you grab two dudes that are legit pieces for you.
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  Speaker 2: And they might not be all-stars. They might not be superstars.
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  Speaker 3: But they're core foundational guys on the team.
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  Speaker 2: He did pitch well for the Orioles in the playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: but it was just like.
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  Speaker 1: Lost the 1-0 wildcard game, if I'm not mistaken. He
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: made his return last night for the Diamondbacks. If anyone's curious,
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  Speaker 1: he was out with Tommy John for like 15 months.
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  Speaker 2: So he took his time getting back and he pitched
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  Speaker 2: three innings. I'm just kidding. I don't think he did.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just being unfair.
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  Speaker 1: No, but he pitched three innings last night, his first
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  Speaker 1: start since I want to say June of 25 or
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  Speaker 1: something like that.
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  Speaker 2: If anyone was curious about what's going on with that,
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  Speaker 2: just last.
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  Speaker 1: Night, the Diamondbacks ended up winning that game in extras
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  Speaker 1: because they lost the 2-0 lead in the ninth to
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: the Royals, but did end up winning that game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, three scoreless for him. Yes, three scoreless. He was
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  Speaker 2: on a 60-pitch limit. So he threw 57 over three innings.
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  Speaker 3: And they've had a lot of guys out there in Arizona.
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  Speaker 3: Him and Gallin have been out for most of the season. Listen,
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: he was pumping the 93-mile-an-hour cutter that looked pretty dang
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  Speaker 3: good again last night. So it looked like he might
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  Speaker 3: regain his form.
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  Speaker 2: He is 31 years old and two years into a
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  Speaker 2: six-year $ 210 million deal.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe the Orioles did make the right.
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  Speaker 3: There was an unflattering uniform that they put him in
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  Speaker 3: in one of the AAA starts.
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  Speaker 1: Was it like the Admiral Uribe Lederhosen? No, just.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to go full Ray King. But my
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  Speaker 3: man definitely... He's.
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  Speaker 2: Been eating during his off.
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  Speaker 3: Looked like he was healthy.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: Looked like he was healthy.
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  Speaker 3: Looked like he was enjoying a couple of good dinners.
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  Speaker 2: I'm surprised to hear that Corbin would do that. So Burns...
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: pitches and three innings, and they win. Aaron Judge comes
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: back to Yankee Stadium last night, and they win. Of course,
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: they're playing Colorado. But Aaron Judge missed three months with
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: a stress fracture in his rib, gets the big ovation,
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: strikes out, then struck out again, then flied out, and
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: then took a powder after six innings. And when that
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: ball hit the left of that... No balls were hit
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  Speaker 2: to him in right field, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: No, and Drew, when that ball left his bat and
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: went to very medium depth center field, the gasp at
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: Yankee Stadium was awesome.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: You could hear the... They were hoping for a moment.
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: They were waiting for it. And listen, I hope he
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: has his moment this year. I like Aaron Judge. I've
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: liked him for a long time.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: But this is.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: A heck of a year for the two guys that
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: felt like complete mainstays as the MVPs.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Neither one are going to win in judging Otani. this year.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Judge misses like the three and a half months.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: And Otani came now back into the lineup after they
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: shut him down for a couple of days out in
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: Los Angeles. And we'll see how much that can regain him.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: But yesterday, the big news was Otani, very unlikely to
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: pitch now for the rest of the season.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that. You said that I'm shutting it
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: down for that aspect.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it so we don't have to see
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: the greatest game of all time ever.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Played against us again. Yeah, let him just go five
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: for five. That would be nice.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: That's sick. 12 total bases.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: That was the worst part of that stupid SB award
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: show was the fact that I had to remember the
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: fact that this Joker hit three homers and struck out
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: 10 guys in the same game.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: In the same game. Brutal.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: That's the epitome of brutality. Hey, hot take the SEC should.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: expel LSU today.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Come on now, get him out of there.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: Now, the SEC has filed an amended complaint against LSU
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: on Tuesday regarding the school's potential plans to add NFL
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: players to its roster and scheduled a vote for conference
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: presidents on whether to expel the Tigers from From the league,
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: the SEC is not expected to take such action, but
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: filing indicates at least a serious level of intent to
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: affirm we're enforcing our own rules. Now, the SEC, the
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Southeast Conference- It means more. It just means more.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just means more.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: It just means more in the South to play college football.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Keyword, college.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Greg Sankey- is the most powerful man in college sports.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: Tony Petitti, commissioner of the Big Ten, 1A, 1B. They
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: are right there online as the most powerful and influential
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: people in college sports. And if indeed, because this is
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: not about Daquan Wright or the other young man that
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: was going to play defensive tackle for LSU, the former
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Ole Miss Rebels.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: They are no longer As LSU gets this information yesterday,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I said, we were just kidding. We didn't put him
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: on the roster. We weren't going to play him. We
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: were just kidding. It's okay. It's okay. Greg Sankey said, no,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: it's not. It's not okay.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: You brought embarrassment and shame to the Southeast Conference. You
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: made us a laughingstock of college sports. And the biggest
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: part of this is, this is not a Lane Kiffin issue.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: This is not in all reality, when you read the
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: conversation and you read the statements put out here, it's
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: that the SEC does not believe. It says the SEC
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: alleges that Kiffin's statements stand up in a sharp contrast
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: and silence by the president athletic director at LSU. They
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: confirm a lack of institutional control over the athletic programs
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: at LSU that is required by article six of the
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: SEC constitution by the remaining provisions of the constitution and bylaws.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: The problem is, LSU is not being run at LSU anymore.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: It's being run in Baton Rouge. Yeah. But it's being
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: run in the governor's office.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: It's being run in the state government and the SEC.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: And this is the one reason why, Drew, I think
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: whether or not it's good for the league, having LSU
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: in your league is a good thing. Having that brand
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: in your league is a great thing for the SEC.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: But for college sports fans, if you really want there
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: to be one powerful body, you really want there to
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: be one governing entity that You need to fight for
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: the establishment probably one time. And for one of these
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: rules to be able to be put out in place
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: and enforced, yeah, Greg Sankey's letting everybody know.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I got the votes. Yeah, that's a good point. I
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: got the votes.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: So let me know if I got to put it
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: out on the table and kick these cats out of here.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: And there is a point where you say to yourself, like-
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: You have to do something drastic to restore normalcy to
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: college sports, football mostly. And I don't mean to sound
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: dramatic about it, but it has been kind of a mess.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: And Lane Kiffin isn't helping matters for those who think
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: it's a mess. And maybe something like that, some drastic
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: measure would help or is necessary. You think back to
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: when SMU got the death penalty.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: It was such a.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: such a severe punishment, but maybe it was needed. I
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: And you're not shutting down the program. You're not ending
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: their operations. You're not allowing them to play make money.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Because they're going to make money for you. But you
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: have to draw a line in the sand sometimes. And
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: if you're saying we have a standard and this is
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: it now. And then if I'm Tony Petitti and they
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: expel LSU, I am on the first thing smoking to
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: make the Big Ten the all-American conference. And I'm bringing
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: LSU to the Big Ten. And that's going to be.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: The bargaining chip. Then you need one more. Then you
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: need one more. All I can say to that- Notre Dame,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: come on. What are we waiting for? Keep on dreaming.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: 20 team best conference in all of sports. 10 in
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: the West, 10 in the East, and you get the
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: power conference in all of college sports.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: And then you can- play a.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Regular conference schedule, and you can play nine teams in
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: your conference, so then.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Everybody in the conference division.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Actually plays, and you have the same schedule.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: These are the kind of things Billy dreams about. It's crazy.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: It would be awesome if you could have a utopia
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: where you played every team in your conference.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: It's your great white whale.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: One time. You can't have big conferences if you want
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: to play every team.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: That's part of the problem. All right, we'll continue to
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: take hot takes. No golf today, but we've reached halftime
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: of the week. Now, here's traffic from Tri-City National Bank.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: What are we even doing? I agree. I remember when
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: people used to bitch about baseball games going past midnight.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: That ended at 3.30 Eastern time. What are we doing?
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: It used to be well past last call. What are
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: we doing? Starting a highlight match. Like that at, what,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: 10 Eastern? Great tennis matches. If not later than that, right?
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Great tennis matches. 11 Eastern. Can be four or five hours.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: You can't do that, guys. You can't put your do that.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: What are we even doing? How dumb is that when
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: they set schedule? It happened in the United States. Like,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: if it happened in France or Australia. I thought it
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: was the Australian Open when I saw the timing on it.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, 3.30 in the morning, great. But what
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: are we doing, and why are they not getting crushed?
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: And isn't that, like, and I have a romantic memory
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: in the past of, like, Great, like Jimmy Connors.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Connors going crazy. Farewell. Remember that one? Yeah, that was late,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: but that was like at 11.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, the regular late, not three in the morning late.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: And you're starting it locally at 11. It's stupid. Especially
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: now it's US-centric, but the best tennis moment of the
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: year for the United States was last night. Best U.S.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: tennis moment in how long? And no one will know
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: And no one knows about it because it was dumb.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I like the game a lot.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I enjoy it. I know it's obviously, but I'm not
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: blind to.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: The fact that no one cares about tennis as much
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: as they used to because of things like this.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: It's just not on the public lexicon. It's a niche
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: sport now in that sense.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: The NCAA Tournament Selection Committee thought that was a late start.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And, I mean, they frequent only in late tip-offs
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: of the NCAA tournament.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: And way later than anything needs to be happening. Part
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: of it was the great players haven't been American, and
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I get that. But we've had some really great players
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: at the top of men's. My boy Ben Shelton had
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: the eye of the tiger, though. He did.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: He had Trini Rodman in the crowd. He could be
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: a star. He's dating a soccer star. It's going to
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: be a good story. He's big, tall, lefty. He's only 23. Easy.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: You know everything about it, but the U.S. Open, they
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: deserve to be ripped for having this happen. It's too late.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: When we're getting up for work.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: I was just going to say, when we're getting up
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: for work and we're able to watch it, that's a
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: huge L by those.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: My hot take, yeah, that was a huge L. Now,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: my other hot take in terms of media is anybody
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: who is dunking on or making fun of the news
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: yesterday posted by our friend Eric Name. Thank you. That
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: he's heading to Miami.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Check yourself. I don't like that either. Eric name's going
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: to Miami to cover the heat. Everybody's like, oh, Giannis,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: he's going with Giannis' luggage. He's up Barnacle.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: No wonder.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: He's the Brian Windhorst of Milwaukee going with Giannis. Like, okay, sure.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: But the Athletic has not had anybody on the Brewers
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: in years. They're not going to have anybody on the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Bucks now. I don't know that Eric made a tough
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: choice to leave his hometown and his home state. Was
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: it a choice? Was it a choice? We don't know.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: But shut the hell up. Like, And then people are
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: bitching about his coverage, and they're like, oh, yeah, he
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: did a bad job covering the team. We hated him anyway.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: You hated the results of what he was reporting? But
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Eric's name is a hell of a writer and reporter,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: very well regarded in NBA circles for his acumen of
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: breaking down the complexities of a more complex game than
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: it used to be. He did a really good job.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: He has a relationship with Giannis, which isn't going to
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: hurt him. But the Athletic valued him enough to move
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: him to a new team, whereas they might have just said, yeah, well,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: we're not covering Milwaukee anymore. See you later. Here's your
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: pink slip. So if, and if you're saying, well, he
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: sucked and I didn't like reading his coverage. Well, then
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: don't start your own blog. Don't subscribe. And if you
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: don't like it, how do you like his coverage compared
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: to nothing, which is what the athletic does with the brewers, nothing.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: And what they're going to do with the bucks now
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: is nothing. Now you can say, well, why would I
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: subscribe to the, the athletic? The only teams they got
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: rid of Jesse temple, who did a really good job
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: on the badgers. They've, They have Matt Schneidman covering the Packers,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: and that's it. So if you don't want to subscribe, don't.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: But to, like, bitch at Eric Name, I don't understand, like,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: him getting any vitriol on his way out or the
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: fact that he's going to cover the Heat where he
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: has a relationship with Giannis. Like, obviously, that doesn't hurt
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: his cause, covering the Heat. No, not at all. But
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: it's a whole new thing, and he's moving out of town,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: and it's either a good or bad career move. It's
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: his move, and who are you to sit and judge
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: it or... To ridicule it or celebrate it.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Well, because we like to sit on the couch and
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: live vicariously through other people that we don't have any
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: control over what the decisions and implications of those are.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: But I like that you pointed it out, Drew. When
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I saw the tweet, I was disappointed from the subscriber
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: side of it. Knowing the fact that now, locally, the
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: only coverage that you're getting is of Schneidman's coverage of the.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Packers, which is A1.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, Matt does a phenomenal job, but that's the
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: frustrating one for me.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I guess that's the flaw. If you weren't an Eric
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Name fan, it's like, oh, yeah, now we'll get somebody
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: in there to cover the team who I'll agree with
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: and who I'll like and want to read. No, you won't. No,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: you won't. You're not getting anybody. They're not covering the bucks.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: This is now Siberia of the NBA. They're not covering.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Now you'll maybe get one story every three months for when,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: you know, somebody is a trade candidate.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: And now the thing is like, I think, and Jim
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Ozarski does a good job covering the bucks for the
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Journal Sentinel. Tremendous. Yes. And he and Eric traveled and
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: it's like, they competed, but they weren't like, you know,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: they weren't going at it. They weren't enemies.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: That's how the beat is like that. Yeah. It's not
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: how it goes anymore. But the thing is like, You'd say, oh, well,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: now Ozarski has free reign and he's going to be
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: like the main voice traveling with the Bucs. We hope
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: because part of the reason that Journal Sentinel sent him
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: to stuff was because Eric Name was there covering for
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: the Atlantic. They were competing and it made them better.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Now it's not going to be. And the Journal Sentinel
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: being in private equity mode, squeezing every penny, they're going
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: to be like, oh, what do we need to do
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: that for? No one else is going to do it.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: You can write a couple of tweets at home, right? Yeah.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: So be careful what you wish for it.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Dollars it'll be a lot more anybody who's dunking on
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: that i mean get over yourself the other part of
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: it is drew and you know it better than i
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: uh but the accessibility and the necessity to be on
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: the road while if you're going to cover the team
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: the right way you got to be there uh press
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: conferences being able to be on zoom and teams probably
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: being more than okay saying yeah we'll send you a
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: link Yeah, we'll let you know. We'll tell you when
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: and be able to cut things in and out very,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: very quickly. It's a very, very slippery slope. And it's
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: you're not putting the toothpaste back in the tube. You're
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: not getting another Bucs reporter for a team that they're
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: over under, I think, is twenty five and a half.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: The other part about it with Eric, and him and
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Jim did not get the requisite credit across the country
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: that they deserved for the actual coverage of.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: The last season, right?
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Like last season, and I think this would be where
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: people were maybe disappointed with how it was all covered,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: was we had two guys that were talking to the guy.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: And no one paid attention, yeah.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: We had two guys that were actually getting interviews. Laurie Nichol,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: three people actually getting interviews with either the... Star player,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: the general manager, and the owner. And none of them
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: got any bit of pub to the point where you
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: probably missed some of the fact that he actually talked
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: to Giannis like three or four times. And now whether
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: or not Giannis was being outwardly truthful and honest in
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: the statements that he gives to Eric, Eric reports what
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: is said to him.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: He got statements, right? He gets statements and quotes. not
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: writing the own stuff.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: And that's where I do believe, and this is, again,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: my own personal belief, is more of the frustration came
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: with the fact that everything was ambiguous.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: From Giannis' side.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: There was never going to be anything direct. There was
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: not going to be anything clear cut. And then when
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: people did know that Giannis and Eric had a good
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: working relationship, it's like, well, you're just protecting him. No,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: he's just writing down and putting out the quote that
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: he was given. So I understand that the divorce made
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: people and will make people feel a certain way.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Emotional, yeah.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: But the bigger part is Eric probably had two choices.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Either move to Miami or don't work.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: And I think we all understand what choice we're making.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: And there's a disconnect with a lot of fans, it
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: seems like, because you look at it and you chortle
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit because it's like, well, I think some
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: people saw this coming. But this sort of, yes, I'm
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: glad you brought this up because I've been trying to
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: understand that this seems to be this groundswell of the
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: fan base that has this anti kind of Eric name
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: thing going on.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: And I really don't understand it. I think they're just
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: anti what's happened to the Bucs. Maybe.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: But I think it's also emblematic maybe of a newer
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: generation thinking that the guys covering their team in papers
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: or writing should have constantly been like fan opinionated pieces
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: going on. I don't know how else to describe it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: It's like people would say, well, you didn't like the Bucs.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not his job. It's like, but once
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: upon a time, we didn't expect the guys writing the paper.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Like no one said to Drew Olsen writing for the–
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: why aren't you more of a fan? Why aren't you
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: cheering in the press box? Or why isn't Bob McGinn
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: a fan?
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I've got people saying that. Maybe you did, but I
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: don't know what it is.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: If it's a new generation or people seem to be
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: kind of maybe gravitating more toward the influencer fan content
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: more than the writing content.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: It's actually, Armand, the other way. It's like if you're
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: not completely off the rails ripping people– then what are
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: you even doing? It's like the angrier people. Yes. And
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: it's like you're looking at it clinically. It's like, oh, yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: you're not confrontational, people seem like you're not... The Brewers
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: won 74 games. Like, what did you expect? Like, they
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: were supposed to win 74. And I was like.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: And I guess for me, I have to be careful
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: because it was somewhat personal because... We had been around
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Eric when he came up as a reporter in Milwaukee.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Dude's a hard worker. He knows ball. He loves ball.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: They had a lot of respect for him. But I'm like,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: all right, well, maybe I was too close to it
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: in that sense. I was like, what is it about?
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: The charge now that he's going there because he's Giannis'
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: guy and Giannis feeds him stuff. But that makes sense
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: for the athletic team. Brian Windhorst made a career out
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Becoming an NBA insider because he covered LeBron in high school.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Listen to Scott Van Pelt talk about how he is
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: where he is. Because he knew Tiger Woods.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: And then. I just didn't get it. And you want
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: to say like, oh, how horrible is that? Eric Name's
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: only there because like, yeah. And the whole insider industry
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: is based on these, this type of thing. So it's
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: like he's Eric Name's moving in the right direction, I
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: would say.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: You'd be silly not to.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Well, on one hand, you can't complain that he's not
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: getting stuff for you and then builds a relationship with
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the guy.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: On the other hand, saying, why do you have this relationship?
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: It's Connor- I firmly believe it was like you said, Drew.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: It's what happened with the Bucs and what was being
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: said from Giannis and being written down.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I'm always shocked when I see that sort of response
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: and the amount of people that pick up on the
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: entire game.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I don't get it. And maybe I'm too far away
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: from it, but I need someone to articulate it better.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Too close to it would be more of it. Yeah.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: It's the old Nathan Jessup. You sleep under the blanket
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: of security that I provide and then question the manner
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: in which I provide it? you consume his coverage and
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: then you don't agree with it or you don't like
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: the direction of the team or he's not ripping the
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: team enough or he's not, whatever, you know, there's a million,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: write your own blog or go read something else. And
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: this is a million sources. And Eric name inspired a
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: lot of people to blog about the bucks. I do
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: like this one from the four one four.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Hey guys, I think some of the reason why people
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: complain about Eric's bucks coverage was that he didn't write
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: stories about every game on a day-to-day basis, like a
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: traditional beat writer. The content he would put out was fantastic,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: but it wasn't what a lot of people were used
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: to from a model beat writer.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And that's exactly right. Every story. They don't write every
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: tweet into a story, right? They're, The athletics model is
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: more feature-ish and not game stories. He's doing what his
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: boss and his job requires of him. Yes, that's why
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: it's a supplement. It's a longer form.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: But again, this is, but that's... Again, expectation not knowing. Yeah,
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: but that's not something that I would expect every person
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: to think. They see, all right, they have a Bucs
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: beat writer. Cool, I'm going to get a story about
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: the Bucs game every single night. Some of the frustration
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: with Eric Name is you didn't hate his coverage. You
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: wanted more of it.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you wanted more. Yeah, for sure. And that's not
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: up to him to publish, you know.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: But again, now I'm going to defend the people here.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: If I'm paying money and I'm paying the money for
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: the subscription because I'm seeing Buck's beat writer. Again, I
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: understand and I'm not disagreeing here so that we can
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: put the swords down just a tick.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: That it's not a personal thing.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: But when you are the person that I am subscribing
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: and where I go to and how I get the
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: athletics coverage, their frustration was more with the athletic.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: But it was also one of those where.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna be mad at the messenger cuz this
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: is the only one that I see.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: And when Schneidman pumps.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Out five pieces a week, it also sets a different
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: expectation for what you're going to get when you then
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: get one story a week.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: I would say Nam was writing five pieces a week
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: during the season.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Back end of the year, definitely not. Did he not
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: tweet enough? I think that's... Maybe that's part of it.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe people wanted him.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: To be a.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Like, whenever something was happening to Bucks, have a tweet
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: there to talk about it, and maybe he wasn't... I
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: think that was part of it.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Didn't tweet enough, maybe? When you see.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: When that's what you're seeing as the job title, you
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: assume that it is what you've always known a beat
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: writer to be.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, but there's... Like I said, there's a gajillion
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: other sources. If you don't like it, unsubscribe from The Athletic.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's their approach.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Right, but there's only two places you could go.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I've got one. We don't usually do random hot takes
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: from Twitter. I like it, though. But I got one
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: that's going to make Billy's cockles fire.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Let's ride.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Come on. From a fella who calls himself Drake Fantasy,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Brian Drake. Okay, okay. That's my nickname in college. He's
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: got 15,000 followers. He's a podcast host and does some stuff.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Here's his take on tonight's NFL opener. Seattle versus New
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: England is an incredibly boring NFL season opener. Let's all
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: be honest. The Seahawks are a defensive-minded team with a
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: journeyman quarterback that nobody still believes in and one offensive weapon.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: New England had their doors blown off in the Super Bowl,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: and their biggest offseason storyline was their coach nailing an
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: NFL reporter. I love football. You love football. We'll all watch.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: But there's zero juice to this matchup.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: None.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: It's the last game we saw in the National Football
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: League that meant something. And now the next game that
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: means something. They're back to back in this matchup. But
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I know that this is like waving a red, you know.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: In front of the bowl. Yeah, what is that? Billy,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: what do you say? I guess. I mean, like, I just...
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I would completely disagree with it.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Like, you have a team that ended up acquiring a
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: dude that they talked about acquiring for a full year
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: on A.J. Brown as a top 15 receiver in the league.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: You got a quarterback who was the second in MVP
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: voting on one side. And Darnold, which, again, is... shockingly
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: to no one, the most doubted guy in the league.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: All he did was win the Super Bowl a year ago.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: And him and Jalen Hurts are standing back here like,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: so when we get our rings, do we get some respect?
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: No, we got to win another one. Okay, got it,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: got it.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Because at some point, we're going to have to just
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: realize Sam Darnold's good. Like, does he have to do
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: a full another year with another new offensive coordinator where
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: you realize, oh, he's actually just a really good NFL quarterback?
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: He's won 28 regular season games over the last two years.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Over the last two years. And look at his stats.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: You put him up against anybody.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: And he lost two games in Minnesota, and they're still
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: frustrated that they watched the tape too much.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Two highest paid corners going against two number one. The
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: offensive player of the year. You've got the loudest stadium
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: in the league. And this is week one of the NFL.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Every matchup is a big matchup. I'll say this, though.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, to the guy's point, if I could only
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: choose one game to watch.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I'd probably watch Rams 49ers, and that's like the real
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: opener because I'm used to it on Thursday. We don't
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: really need this Wednesday Super Bowl rematch, but it's here.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: But it's here, and I'm excited. But if I could
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: only watch one game in terms of the football matchup,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I'm watching the other one instead of the rematch of
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: the game I watched in February.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this joker probably is excited to watch Caleb Williams
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: against Bryce Young on Sunday. That might be his very
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: exciting matchup is, oh, I can't wait to watch what's
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: going to happen between the Cowboys and Giants.