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How Do You Create a Sacred Space in Play Therapy for Healing? · Next Level Play Therapy: A Podcast for Play Therapy Excellence

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Welcome to this week's episode of Next Level Play Therapy, where we talk about all things play therapy.
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And today I wanna talk about a concept that I was introduced to back when I was taking a sand tray training when I was living on the East coast.
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I was taking a sand tray training with the amazing Dr. Dee Preston-Dylan of the Center for Culture and Play.
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So if you know Dee Preston-Dylan, I would love for you to, uh, post in the comments we can talk about how amazing she is.
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And if you are on the East coast and you need a sand tray training and you want to go really, really deep and do some of your own self-care as well, then I would definitely check her out.
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That got me to thinking though, as I have been doing some of my own personal work, I got to, I got, I started remembering that conversation with Dee Preston-Dylan that sand tray training where she introduced this concept of the wounded healer archetype and the way she talked about it was with compassion and resilience and, and how it helps us to become more authentic humans.
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And I thought about Velveteen Rabbit to be completely honest.
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Um, a well loved, authentic velveteen rabbit.
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And I kind of thought about the wounded healer and that velveteen rabbit and how we show up in our play therapy sessions.
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How we show up for parents and caregivers from a place of authenticity, being a able to access deep, deep wisdom and insight and empathy and unconditional positive regard.
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And to me, that concept of wounded healer also brings up that whole topic of creating a sacred space for healing.
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I talked a little bit about, I talked about what is a sacred space for healing in last week's episode.
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So if this is a topic of interest to you and showing up, showing up authentically and creating that authentic space for healing.
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Deep, deep, deep healing.
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Then you may wanna pop over to my YouTube channel, or if you're watching the livestream episode, see the previous week's episode.
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If you're listening on the podcast, you may wanna listen to last week's podcast.
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So that's what I wanna talk about this week, is how do you create that sacred space?
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And what's the role of that wounded healer archetype in that, in that therapeutic rapport that we're building with our clients?
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Because I feel like I. So if you've listened to any of my previous livestream episodes or listened to any of the previous podcasts, so if you're interested, I have a podcast.
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It's called Next Level Play Therapy.
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I also have a YouTube channel.
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If you're, if you're interested, you can pop over there.
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It's Cathi Spooner Renewing Hearts Training.
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Click on the live tab.
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'cause that's where all the recorded per, uh, replay episodes of the live stream are.
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So you could watch the video part of it.
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So that, that got me to thinking about, um, so if, sorry, I lost my train of thought there.
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So that's what I wanna talk about this week, that idea of how do you create that sacred space, what is the role of that wounded healer archetype, and how do we, how do we do that in a way that honors our clients and allows them to have that free and protected space for healing without all of our stuff, shall we say?
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Kind of spilling over into the, into the play therapy session or filling over into our work with, with parents and caregivers.
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So for those of you watching on the live stream episode, I would love to see who's here.
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Post your name in the comments post, where are you from?
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What population are you working with?
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If you're watching on the replay?
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Perfect opportunity to pop in and join the conversation as well.
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Watching the replay, what population do you work with and where are you working?
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I. And if you're watching or listening on the podcast, I would love for you, I'd love to hear from you, so feel free to pop over to my Instagram channel.
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I live stream on Instagram as well.
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If you're watching on Instagram, hello Instagram people.
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Send me a dm, send me a message.
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Love to say hello.
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So let's get started for this week.
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First of all, I want to define what does it mean to be a wounded healer?
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So like I do so.
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So like I do when I'm preparing for trainings or preparing for these, um, weekly episodes, I will sometimes consult Dr.
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Google.
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'Cause sometimes Dr. Dr. Google has some really interesting and helpful information, sometimes not.
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And sometimes Dr. Google can be very helpful.
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So Dr. Google, with its new AI capabilities, um, says I, I love this definition.
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So I wanted to read the definition, and the definition is to quote Dr. Google.
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A wounded healer is someone who uses their own painful experiences to help others.
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The term was coined by a psychologist, um, Carl Jung, the wounded healer archetype.
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So a wounded healer is someone who uses their own painful experiences to help others.
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So there's that transformational component.
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And as play therapists or or those in the mental health profession, how many of us have been the cycle breakers in our own families, where we have taken what we've learned in our own healing process and have that become our mission, our purpose in life to help others heal.
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I can remember as a little girl, I mean little girl.
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I can remember being, I read all the books when I was little.
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If there was a book about helping kids heal or about kids and families overcoming obstacles, I read it.
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I loved all those stories in my little kid mind.
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I was going to save children.
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And for, you know, I.
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It, it was interesting 'cause I always remember as a little girl, I knew there were things off in my family.
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Like my mom would do some things and I would think to myself, Hmm, I I don't think that's a healthy thing.
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I think something's wrong here.
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I laugh now.
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Back then it was pretty, uh, it was pretty weird as a kid to think, hmm.
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Everybody is acting like this is normal, but I don't think this is normal.
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I think something's wrong here.
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And it wasn't until I got to adult, it got into my own healing process that I real, I kind of jumped for joy a little bit because I, I felt a little validated, like I was right as a kid.
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I was right there.
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This, there were some things going on here that were totally not good.
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Like, and then, you know, looking back on the generational cycles that my parents were living through.
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And my mom would try, I could, you know, looking back as an adult, I can try.
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Oh, I think my mom was really trying here.
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It just didn't stick.
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Um, and I have a good relationship with my mom before my dad died.
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We had a good relationship.
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So, you know, healing happens and, um, I, I, it kind of brings up that idea of what does it mean to be a wounded healer and how do we use that?
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So I remember as a kid thinking, I'm gonna help kids heal.
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That's what I'm gonna do.
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But I didn't know how, 'cause I was a kid.
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And until you, uh, do a little internal house cleaning, you're not gonna be very effective.
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So at some point realizing, you know what, this therapy thing, there's something you can do to help kids, I'm all in.
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And, and it became a, a calling, a purpose.
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I would say now, you know, almost 35 years later now, I would say my purpose is helping other play therapists and supporting new and seasoned play therapist in the work that you're doing.
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And when I talk to play therapists.
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People, uh, child and adolescent therapists interested in becoming play therapists I hear the same thing over and over.
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In Play Therapy Academy, when we're having our consultation meetings.
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I hear the same thing over and over, and that is, it feels like a calling, it feels like a purpose, not just a job.
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I, there's that, and to me, that's the sacred journey.
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That desire to help others come out of what I call the darkness, right, come out of the darkness as therapists and play therapists.
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We know the way out.
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I've always thought about it that way.
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Like my calling is to be a light in the darkness as a play therapists.
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And so we go into those dark places with our clients, with family members, with parents.
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In a compassionate and supportive, empathic, knowledgeable way and help them find their way out.
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And to me, that's what it means to be the wounded healer.
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That's what it means to create that sacred space.
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We are using our theoretical model to ground us and help us understand how to help our clients out of those dark places.
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In order to do that, we also have to have strong therapeutic rapport and to, so we need, we need both, right?
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We need the theory to ground us, help us understand what's going on, what are the roots of the problem.
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That's our case conceptualization.
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Case conceptualization and theory without relationship does not work.
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Our clients need to trust us.
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They need to experience compassion and empathy with boundaries.
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There are boundaries.
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In order to, to be willing to go on the journey with us and to trust us as their guide to help them out of those dark places.
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And that's what we do as play therapists.
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Okay, so I wanna do a little full disclosure here for, for those of you listening or watching.
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My dog, Luna has entered the room.
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So when my husband goes off to work, I do these live streams early in the morning when my husband goes off to work, he has to open the door to my office because he has to let my dog Luna in.
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And Luna is now, she hears me saying her name.
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Yep.
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She hears me saying her name.
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Luna is in the office with me.
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And so when Luna comes in the office, she, she likes to make herself comfortable and in order to make herself comfortable, she's got to dig in the carpet like somehow it's gonna create this comfy, cozy spot for her to lay.
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But sometimes that doesn't cut it.
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So she's got to do a lot of digging and then she's gotta roll around and moan some of you watching on the video um, in live stream and on LinkedIn, you may see, I saw this once when I was going through and editing, like reviewing some of the videos to kind of repurpose some of the clips and I saw Luna's little tail in the background of the video.
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So in some of the old videos, if you're watching on, especially if you're watching on um, LinkedIn or if you're watching on YouTube, you're seeing, I may see her little black and white tail in the background.
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So anyways, if you hear moaning or she, you hear these weird sounds in the background.
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There is not anything untoward, to use an old word there.
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Um, there is no, there is, there's not anything, uh, going on in the background that's not okay, or weird or a little, uh, concerning is just my dog, Luna.
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Ooh.
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She's getting really comfy.
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Just my, my dog Luna, hanging out with mom.
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Um, so.
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Um, just so you know.
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All righty.
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So we have, oh, awesome.
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So we have Barbara from Annapolis, Maryland.
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Glad to have found your presentation.
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Hey Barbara.
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Hey, I am actually from, well, Virginia side, so I'm very aware of Annapolis, Maryland.
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So I'm always happy to connect with my East Coast peeps.
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And it's, it's beach season now, so, uh, hanging out in Ocean City, Maryland, some of the other beaches, I'm sure you're gonna be doing some of that.
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And Annapolis is beautiful.
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I love Annapolis, especially at 4th of July.
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They just, I don't know if they still do that.
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Um, yeah.
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So welcome.
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Awesome to have you.
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So first let's define what is a wounded healer?
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So, um, as, as Dr. Google has, uh, defined a wounded healer or someone who uses their own painful experiences to help others from a practical standpoint, I feel like this is the way in which we show up authentically in a healthy way with boundaries, um, accessing the wisdom that we've learned from our own healing journey to help us show up authentically and in a real way, in sessions with our clients, with parents and caregivers so that, so that they can trust us and engage in the healing process.
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As those of us who are accessing that wounded healer a archetype to show up authentically, we are showing up with empathy.
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We are showing up with unconditional positive regard.
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These are all the ways that we hold that space.
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The way that we do that though, here are some characteristics that we're thinking about to me that are the resilience aspects of that wounded, wounded healer archetype, and that is empathy.
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We have great empathy for the the cost of engaging in the healing journey.
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We have insights that we've learned, some of our own wisdom that we've gained along the way.
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We, we know resourcefulness.
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We know that if you keep on trying that it will eventually work out.
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Um, not to give up.
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We know to listen deeply and as we're listening deeply, then we're also demonstrating acceptance.
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So, so we can accept, this is where I like DBT, Dialectical Behavior Therapy.
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Uh, therapy.
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So dialectical behavior therapy, acceptance and change.
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Acceptance is our clients are doing the best they can at any moment in time.
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The change part is, and they can do better.
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And that acceptance of our clients are doing the best that they can.
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Even when you hear things in the playroom that you think to yourself, oh my goodness, my brain just went tilt.
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So you may have to hold some boundaries.
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We are mandated reporters.
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The goal of um, therapy is always safety first, right?
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Safety first.
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Safety first.
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Safety first.
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And as we're also holding that our clients are doing the best they can.
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Parents are doing the best they can.
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They're not gonna trust us unless they feel like you're not judging them.
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We may be holding boundaries that's different than judging.
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Boundaries is not judging.
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I know that one gets people confused all the time.
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Um, so.
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So that, so that's what it means to be a wounded healer.
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And how does that, how does that influence how we hold that sacred space?
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So that sacred space is that the idea that in here, in the playroom, in this, in this office, when we're meeting with parents.
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In here, I'm going to show up in a way that is not judgmental.
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I'm showing compassion.
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I am having empathy.
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I am listening deeply in a non-judgmental way.
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And I'm gonna hold, hold confidentiality.
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There are exceptions to confidentiality, so we always have to make sure those are clear from the get go.
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So unless it's a mandated safety reporting thing, then we are holding hard stories and we are holding privacy and figuring out what that looks like in a therapeutic way in this session.
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Because that's, that's what creates that sacred space.
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When we, when we hold that space in a way where clients feel accepted, they feel like they're not judged, they know the boundaries.
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They know what to expect, they will settle in, and when they trust you, then they will go to those deeper places.
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Right?
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We know from neuroscience that people have to access their social engagement circuits in order to let down their guard and feel safe.
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And only when they feel safe will they be vulnerable.
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That's what we ask people to do in the play therapy office, in therapy in general.
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We ask people to come in and be vulnerable to talk about those things or to work through those things that they don't necessarily want to talk to others about because others won't get it and they won't understand, but they need a place to be able to do that.
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To be able to talk about the things where they feel shame or children need to be able to play out those things that they're trying to make sense of or trying to overcome.
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And they need to feel like that they can do that and not freak you out, and that they feel like it's gonna be private so they don't have to worry about what their parents are gonna say.
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Which their parents probably already know most of it anyway, but kids need to feel like they can do that because they need to feel like they have a space where they can go into those hard areas and figure things out with you as that compassionate presence that anchors the sessions in the change process.
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Um.
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Sorry, I was reading Barbara's quote.
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Yes, great little town.
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She says Annapolis.
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Yeah.
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Um, so that's how we hold that space.
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We, we want to have that space where the client can openly share their thoughts and feelings without fear of judgment that allows them to go to those deep places.
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Unless they, we have a strong therapeutic relationship with them, then they're not going to do that.
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Because we know from neuroscience that, that, that in order to engage social engagement circuits, they first have to deactivate those neuroception circuits, those threat circuits that are constantly assessing for threat.
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And so creating that sacred space means providing that free and protected space.
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And as wounded healers, because we get things at a deeper level in some areas, not not everywhere.
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And we understand what it means to work through that healing.
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We understand some nuances maybe at a deeper level than somebody who hasn't gone through that.
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It doesn't mean we experience everything, and if we don't experience everything that we can't show up, authentically.
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It doesn't mean that What it means is we can access deep compassion, we can access deep wisdom.
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As long as we stay anchored in ourselves, we have to be well regulated.
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We have to know how to therapeutically hold with acceptance and change.
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There's the boundaries in there as well, and we can use that deep wisdom.
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And here's the thing, like it's not always gonna be perfect all the time.
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We're not, we're not talking about being perfect people.
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We are talking about being wise.
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We're talking about accessing the wisdom that we've learned along the way from our own healing journey.
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Doesn't mean we do it perfectly.
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I mean, we talk about this in Play Therapy Academy.
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This is one of my favorite things about Play Therapy Academy, and if you talk to anybody in Play Therapy Academy, they will tell you the same thing, like to the person, they'll all say the same thing and they won't be prompted by me.
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They'll share this spontaneously.
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And in some of the past, uh, episodes, I've had some Play Therapy Academy members come on to these episodes and share their gifts.
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So what it's a, it's a, it's a free and protected space, right?
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With boundaries and where, where.
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We can use our community support.
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Like, Hey, I'm struggling with this.
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We need to support each other I think in the play therapy community, because we do hold hard stories, it is hard, hard things and we can't just talk to anybody about it.
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'cause not anybody's gonna get it.
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And, in Play Therapy Academy, we'll kind of help help each other.
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Hey, I think I'm in a little stuck here.
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I'm getting stuck.
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You know, this got activated.
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I hate to say this.
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It's, and I need help knowing how to hold this.
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I need help knowing what to do with this, and then how do I set that aside so that I could show up authentically, in play therapy sessions?
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How do I set this aside so I can be more effective when I'm working with caregivers and parents?
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Like this to me is why we need community.
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I. As mental health com professionals, as play therapists, being part of a community of support means we don't have to hold these hard stories by ourselves.
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And when our little wounded healer archetype gets activated, the shadow A aspects right.
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Those get activated.
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We have a place to go where we can sort those through so that we can access the light attributes of that wounded healer archetype.
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So having that, having that community can be very beneficial to do this, this work that we're doing.
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And.
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Um, if you're interested, I am gonna talk a little bit more about Play Therapy Academy at the end, if you're interested.
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I do have a couple of spaces open.
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The spaces are limited in Play Therapy Academy.
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Um, so if you're interested, I have a couple of spots and then I, I will tell you a little bit about it at the end.
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So holding that space, holding that sacred space means we also have boundaries.
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So showing up authentically with boundaries means we need to recognize the difference between when we are in that wounded space versus when we're accessing the is insights and wisdom and compassion from that, that place that where we've overcome and we've, we've healed.
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Because that's how we are um, making sure that we don't show up in our wounded place and then create some challenges there.
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Does it mean sometimes we will, because sometimes we're not perfect.
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Yes.
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This is where your strong relationship with clients, professional relationship will help keep them grounded and then you go through the repair work with them.
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Right?
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I love using a neuroscience and attachment lens, even as a therapist.
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One, to understand what's going on with my clients, making sense of that, understanding generational histories of trauma, attachment, poverty and what that looks like, and helping parents break generational cycles for their children, working with children to help children break generational cycles in their families and learn how to heal.
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That to me is the, the, that's the gift of being a play therapist, the gift that we get to witness as well as the gift that we give to help families walk out of those really hard places.
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So, um, we need to know when we're, we need to recognize when we're acting in that wounded place versus acting in that place of healing and accessing deep wisdom.
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And so some of the things we need to be aware when I'm triggered, when I'm not doing my self care and I'm feeling a little crispy fried, um.
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That's a good indi.
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We hold hard stories.
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We just had this conversation recently in Play Therapy Academy where self-care, we've, we've got to put the oxygen mask on first, right?
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That airplane analogy that you use.
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We parents all the time.
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We have to use it for ourselves.
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Previous episodes, I've talked about this as well, so if you're interested in, in this topic, you may wanna look at some of those previous episodes where we, we talk about self-care and the role of self-care to make sure that we are filling up our, our, our own wells, because you can't give from an empty well.
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And to me that means some of the things that we need to do are tap into our own spiritual practice, tap into nature.
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If that fills you up.
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For me, tapping into my own spiritual practice, tapping into nature, but also my family is what grounds me.
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Making sure that I'm spending time with family and making sure, first and foremost, that I am prioritizing that.
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Which is hard, 'cause sometimes I, you know, when your kids are little and you're doing play therapy and helping other people, and you're working full time and you have your family and you're taking care of bills and going grocery shopping and doing all the things.
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Sometimes we can have a little bit of that guilt, like, oh, I'm giving more to my clients than I am to my own kids.
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Right?
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It's a horrible feeling.
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Mommy guilt is real.
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I'm sure daddy guilt is real too.
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Talk to my husband.
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He'll say, daddy, guilt is real.
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It's a thing.
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It's a real thing.
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So what does that mean when that kicks up?
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It is a red flag that says, Hey, take a step back.
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Who owns this problem?
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You or your clients?
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Give it back to your clients.
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Take a step back.
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Do your self-care.
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Reconnect with the important people in your life.
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We need to do all of these things so that we show up in our sessions as our best versions of play therapists.
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First, though, it means we have to take care of ourselves.
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And there are things that we have to hold boundaries around.
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Like we're not going to share if, uh, we're not gonna do any self-disclosure if we're doing it from a wounded place that serves nobody.
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But also even I sharing some self disclosure.
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You have to think about whether or not it's beneficial.
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Does the client need to hear it?
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Because sometimes even if it's coming from a healthy place, the timing or uh, is not right or it's not something clients need to hear.
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We can access it.
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Oh yeah, to, to access compassion and deep empathy.
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Doesn't need mean we need to share it because sometimes it can backfire on you.
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So you have to be really clear about that.
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And for some kids, um, they don't, or parents, I would say like sometimes sharing, sharing some of your own experiences can be beneficial, but sometimes sharing some information about yourself can give this um, un create unrealistic expectations.
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Meaning like, oh, we align in this area, which means you're gonna make my kids align.
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And that's not true.
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It doesn't, it's not how it works.
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So you have to be really careful about that in order to maintain that free and protected space for your clients.
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So what do I mean by that?
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What I mean by that is we're honoring our own healing, healing journey while holding space for our clients and their healing journey.
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So for example.
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Um, if you have a client, let's say you're working with a family who has deep religious beliefs and may maybe their 8-year-old child is exploring because they're 8-year-old child is maybe got some neurodiversity.
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Operates outside of the box, doesn't follow typical norms.
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Maybe they're not picking up on the norms of the typical society.
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And maybe they've got some things they wanna explore, like maybe they wanna explore gender and in the playroom there, maybe it's a, a little boy and the little boy wants to explore wearing princess dresses or playing with baby dolls.
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Which outside of the play therapy session might create some challenges for them and they might be worried about parents' response.
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And there's, there's the tricky part, right?
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Where we're align, we're working with parents and developing rapport with them.
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We're also holding space for children to do what they need to do.
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And so sometimes we hold things that are in, uh, opposition to each other while we help families navigate the change process.
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And so in the playroom, we can allow the child to explore what the child needs to explore because in order to get a better understanding of what's going on for the child, it is helpful to see what is, what it is that they're working through and how they're making sense of the world and what's going on in their lives.
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Or maybe you have children who have their own deep spiritual beliefs and they want to play those out in the playroom.
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As play therapists, we allow them to do that.
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Maybe in some families there's been some trauma that has happened and the child needs a place to work that through.
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Parents need their own place to work that through.
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So we as therapists have to be able to hold that our clients may even have different beliefs.
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They might have different values from us.
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They might even work through the process in a way that's different than the way we worked through it.
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We have to allow them to, that's we have to allow them to figure out their journey, right?
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That's what it means to hold that free and protected space for them.
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What does that look like for them?
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It might be the long windy road, or it might be a very direct route.
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It is their journey.
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We need to release control to them and allow them to work through the journey as they need to work through the journey.
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And to me, this is where we need support and help to do that because sometimes it's hard to hold those stories.
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So that is it for today.
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Let me, so we're talking about how to create a sacred space and play therapy for healing.
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And let me just do a quick re recap, kind of defining what is a wounded healer.
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The wounded healer archetype was coined by Carl Young, and it's that idea of those that healing journey that we've gone through and worked through those painful experiences and now we are, we are come to a, a different place.
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We use the wisdom and the insights and the empathy and compassion that we can access through those experiences to create a, a free and protected space for our clients.
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And holding that free and protected space means we're showing up with unconditional positive regard.
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We are listening deeply to what's being said so our clients can experience that felt sense of being seen and heard by a compassionate, non-judgmental other.
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And that we're, we're maintaining that privacy.
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It's a private space, confidential with boundaries.
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We are mandated reporters.
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Safety is always first.
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And we hold hard stories maintaining that privacy so that our clients can feel comfortable working through some of those vulnerable and challenging places that they need to work through in order to access healing.
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And that's the boundaries, right?
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We have boundaries.
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We have boundaries with ourselves.
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We need to make sure that we are operating from a, a healthy place versus a when we are, our, our own wounds have gotten activated.
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We need to recognize when that happens.
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We need to do our self care to make sure that we're filling up our own well, so to speak, before we pour out to others.
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Because sometimes also we need to think about is this self-disclosure.
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If I wanna use a little self-disclosure, is that going to be effective?
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It has to be the purpose, sole purpose of helping clients heal.
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And so sometimes we'll, we'll access the memory or the wisdom, but we don't necessarily have to share our own experiences because we can hold that for our clients and allow them to navigate their healing in a way that's authentic for them.
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And so that's honoring our own healing, while also holding space for the child's healing, holding space in our work with parents for the purpose of helping children heal.
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So that is it for today if you're interested in Play Therapy Academy.
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Play Therapy Academy is my online consultation program for play therapists who really wanna deep dive, uh, into learning to become a play therapist, learning the skills.
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Moving from what I call that self-doubting play therapist to becoming a confident play therapy expert.
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We have twice a month consultation calls where we staff cases, we support each other, we give feedback.
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There's courses in the program to help you develop your foundation.
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Um, some solid foundational skills that you can build from along as you continue your journey of, of being a play therapist.
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We have, uh, online support.
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We have a group chat where we give each other support.
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There's lots of other bonuses in there as well.
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If you're interested or feel like you're ready to take that next step to becoming a a play therapist, then schedule a video call with me and we'll see how Play Therapy Academy can help you become a play therapist.
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If it's a good fit, great.
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If it's not a great fit, then we've connected and that'll be awesome.
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So if you've been thinking about taking your play therapy skills to the next level and you really want to, you feel like this is the time.
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Then schedule a video call.
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So you can do that by hopping over to my website at rh play therapy training.com.
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Hop over to the con uh, supervision page.
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And, uh, my, so FYI, any of you watching on the replay, um, my virtual and assistant and I are, are re gonna be revamping my website a little bit.
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So we're gonna revamp that supervision page a little bit.
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It might be called, I forgot what I told, I forgot what I told my virtual assistant may what I wanted to call it.
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I think we're calling it.
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Consultation page.
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Anyway, hop over right now it's called Supervision Page.
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Maybe later it'll be called Consultation Page Pop over there, you can find out a little bit more about Play Therapy Academy and you can also schedule, there'll be a link to schedule a video call with me to find out if it's a good fit for you.
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We're also gonna post the links and the comments.
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So feel free to check out the comments.
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Head over to my website, rh play therapy.com.
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Hop over to the supervision page that's renewing hearts play therapy training.com and I will see you guys next week.
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Bye for now.
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Thank you for joining me on this episode of Next Level Play Therapy.
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Until next time, keep playing, learning and growing.