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Transform Your Workplace: Combating Employee Burnout & Boosting Organizational Health · Business Roundtable

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Business round Table podcast. We have
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  Speaker 1: another brand new guest here on the podcast. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 1: David Carr, a Steward your Business. Super excited to have
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  Speaker 1: Jasmine Dennis on here. She and I were just talking
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  Speaker 1: recently about health in the workplace, health and wellness and
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  Speaker 1: you guys know, as Steward your Business, what I focus
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  Speaker 1: on as organizational health people and building those teams together.
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  Speaker 1: But Jasmine has over thirty years of experience in the
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  Speaker 1: health and while in the space she has I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: let her tell you a little bit more about her background.
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  Speaker 1: It's still too much of her thunder, but she just
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  Speaker 1: has such a passion and we really connected on like
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  Speaker 1: how do we take care of employees? And Jasmine, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just super excited to have you here and really talk
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  Speaker 1: about this important topic that I often think often gets
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  Speaker 1: neglected and just welcome to the Business round Table podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, David. I'm so excited to
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  Speaker 2: be here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you you you know, I love your story and
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  Speaker 1: I want to get kind of in there because one
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  Speaker 1: of the things that you know, we were talking about
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  Speaker 1: is is burnout and companies struggling to keep their employees engaged,
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  Speaker 1: especially today's world where employees maybe not always come in
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  Speaker 1: the office. There are different places, and and there are
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  Speaker 1: different aged groups and whole host of things that you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe employers are just not thinking about. And I want
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  Speaker 1: to kind of go back, step back a little bit
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  Speaker 1: and talk about, like where did your passion shouldn't come
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  Speaker 1: to come in this space of health and wellness for
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  Speaker 1: companies and helping individuals be getting a better get a
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  Speaker 1: better place. I would love to have our audience kind
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  Speaker 1: of hear a bit of your journey and what got
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  Speaker 1: you inspired to create jazz D Health and Wellness.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I started way back when I worked, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in the government workers Compensation Board, and you know workers
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  Speaker 2: Compensation Board, they advocate for healthy employees, you know, in
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  Speaker 2: a different kind of way. You know, you pay a
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  Speaker 2: fee to make sure you take every employees that way.
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  Speaker 2: Right started there. But when I was there, I started teaching,
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  Speaker 2: you know, aerobics, because I'm one of those was either
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  Speaker 2: running or doing aerobics or any stuff like that. So
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  Speaker 2: I started to and you know, I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: just make it look like it was the employees that
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  Speaker 2: Workers Compensation Board that was going through this, but basically,
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  Speaker 2: you know the files that came in anyone that people
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  Speaker 2: go to the extreme not want to go to work
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  Speaker 2: because they're in different phases of burnout, they're in different
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  Speaker 2: phases of stress. So we've had situations where you know,
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  Speaker 2: people come in and you know they if you kind
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  Speaker 2: of follow them, you realize that they're really not that sick,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, they just don't want to be in
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  Speaker 2: the environment. So I remember my boss at the time
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  Speaker 2: would say to me, he says, you know, Jackly, when
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  Speaker 2: you come in and the more you come in early,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, when you leave and you get packed up,
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  Speaker 2: and he just watched me go back and forth in
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  Speaker 2: this I you know, great at my job, but there's
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  Speaker 2: this other passion that I had, right wellness. And it
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  Speaker 2: was just basically teaching robics at that time. And I remember,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there was a Who's Miss Canada actually was
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  Speaker 2: starting to they were trying to get a hold of me.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know how they got a hold of me that
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  Speaker 2: was teaching to come and teach at the other vocation.
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  Speaker 2: And I kept putting them off. I was newly married,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and I you know, and you don't want
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  Speaker 2: to be spending too much time away from you know,
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  Speaker 2: you're heavy and all that. So they were persistent. So
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  Speaker 2: I remember, I figured I'll go just go teach a
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  Speaker 2: class and shut him up, right. And I went in
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  Speaker 2: there and they had been prime time, and I, you know,
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  Speaker 2: people always say to me when I go on that stage,
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  Speaker 2: I turned into somebody else, something else. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what it is I turn into, but you know, remember
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  Speaker 2: I'm on there and I could see someone watching me
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  Speaker 2: from the corner, you know, while I was teaching. And
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  Speaker 2: when I got off the station I was finished, the
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  Speaker 2: people in the class just kind of surrounded me, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm kind of looking at my watch. Just
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  Speaker 2: get go home and make dinner. And they said, well,
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  Speaker 2: hope you teach here. I hope you teach here. And
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  Speaker 2: I said, you know, I just came to do a
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  Speaker 2: you know, an audition. So when I stepped out of
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  Speaker 2: the door, he said to me, welcome to the plot.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought, wow, I didn't know that I agreed to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, to be here. So long story short, I
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  Speaker 2: was going back and I took two classes which turned
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  Speaker 2: into three classes. And that's a that's a testament to you.
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  Speaker 2: Right when they were requested more and more So I
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  Speaker 2: remember walking in to teach one of the class one night,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, you said, when you finish your class
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  Speaker 2: and just pop into my office, and so I said, okay,
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  Speaker 2: So I finished. You know, I run a change and
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  Speaker 2: change and got out because you know, I see your
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  Speaker 2: community in your corporate suit because I work with the government,
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  Speaker 2: and you know changing, you know, you turn into this
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  Speaker 2: other individual that I can see your passion. I hope.
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  Speaker 2: I want to build a chain of wellness facilities and
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  Speaker 2: I want you to be a part of that. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, I said, well, some other time, can you
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  Speaker 2: tell me what that entails. So I go back to
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  Speaker 2: my boss, which I loved him. This man was amazing
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  Speaker 2: that I worked with. And I said, Andrew, you know,
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  Speaker 2: this guy wants me to be partner in this chain
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  Speaker 2: of wellness club and all that. He says, jos Man,
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  Speaker 2: to tell you something, I would hate to lose you.
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  Speaker 2: But if you want to take some live of absent
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  Speaker 2: and see if it's something you want to be, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because I see your passion for that, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: and I said, but these are clubs from the from
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  Speaker 2: the ground, you know, you know, like I have to
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  Speaker 2: be responsible to make it successful. Right, So one of
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  Speaker 2: the idiots, right, So I took the leave of absence
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  Speaker 2: and I started, so you can't have an empty club
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  Speaker 2: when it opens. And I said, you know, who am
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  Speaker 2: I going to prospect to be here? And I chose
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  Speaker 2: employee wellness. So I would go to an organization and
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  Speaker 2: I would start, I would clot till I get to
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  Speaker 2: the top for somebody to say yes to me. And
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  Speaker 2: I would say, what do you give your employees as
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  Speaker 2: a bonus? Do you give them a watch? Do you
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  Speaker 2: send them on a vacation? What do you do for incentive?
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  Speaker 2: And you know, they would say, yeah, you know, I said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we sometimes give them money if they go
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  Speaker 2: want to join a club, you know. And at that time,
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  Speaker 2: I'm realizing that wasn't a fix, even though if they
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  Speaker 2: signed up with me, my facility is going to have
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  Speaker 2: a whole lot of people all at once, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But I says, that's not really the fix, you know,
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  Speaker 2: And I said what, I says, Well, how would you
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  Speaker 2: do this? I said, well, I usually at a new club,
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  Speaker 2: put myself on the schedule. I'm right there with everyone
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  Speaker 2: so that I can build it. They get to know
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  Speaker 2: me and everything. We went probably about twenty body time,
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  Speaker 2: I decided I was going to do it on my own,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because I would go to companies and they
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  Speaker 2: would come in and I would be able to get
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  Speaker 2: the employees to stay because I've put myself there, right yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, so you know I would. I ended
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  Speaker 2: up saying I'm going to do my own. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to do my own, and then got the landlord who
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  Speaker 2: bought into it. You know, I got the space. The
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  Speaker 2: Committee of Adjustments said to me, I don't want you
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  Speaker 2: in my space. And know this landlord's you know, which
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  Speaker 2: was love but it was a major grocery store. And
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  Speaker 2: I say their name because he took my idea and
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  Speaker 2: you know, said they don't want you in here. So
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  Speaker 2: I went. They took me to the Committee adjustment and
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  Speaker 2: I won, but the finances was not there. And I
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  Speaker 2: just want to make people well because I look at
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  Speaker 2: wellness more than working out in the gym. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I know when I had if I had my own,
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  Speaker 2: there was going to be a section where's integrated help,
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  Speaker 2: naturopractic doctors, massage therapists, you name it, right, So I
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  Speaker 2: do the wellness so they don't just work out and
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  Speaker 2: walk away long story short, someone heard that I left
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  Speaker 2: this major organization and Lenox Slow is a professional fighter
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  Speaker 2: and you know, reached out to me and says, I
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  Speaker 2: have a fledging facility. Would you come and help us?
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  Speaker 2: So I walked in cocky, No, I'll help you, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to do my own, not gonna work for
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  Speaker 2: anybody else. So he said to me, can I sweep
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  Speaker 2: the pie? You can also, so you know, But I said, well,
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  Speaker 2: the pie meaning your assistant or something. Nothing wrong with that,
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  Speaker 2: but that's not my stick. What you can sweet the
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  Speaker 2: pie is, you know, like partner with me on that
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  Speaker 2: other facility. This is how I wunt you into the
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  Speaker 2: boxing field. And I said, okay, if I come to
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  Speaker 2: work at your organization, we are going to make workplace
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  Speaker 2: wellness a part of what we do. And the Toronto
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  Speaker 2: is one of our biggest clients. Actually, because I say
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  Speaker 2: what I mean, and I mean what I say, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm absolutely it's not a sexy job that I do,
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  Speaker 2: and I get lots of pushback, but I will talk
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  Speaker 2: to that person really gives up and says, okay, all right,
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  Speaker 2: come in.
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  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, well I mean that your persistence definitely, Desmond,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's so important, and that's why I want
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  Speaker 1: to hear a little bit of the background. Because of
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  Speaker 1: your passion and for doing this for so long, working
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  Speaker 1: with Lennis Lewis, doing the box fit, pilates, aerobics, all
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  Speaker 1: of these things you've been doing and teaching and creating.
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  Speaker 1: You are coming from a place of living this out.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's important when I have a guess
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  Speaker 1: on this on the podcast is but I want people
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  Speaker 1: to listen and hear from people that live what they're
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  Speaker 1: sharing live and and they're not just trying to sell
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  Speaker 1: you some product or service that they don't live themselves.
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  Speaker 1: You've lived this out day in and day out, and
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  Speaker 1: you're committed to it. Could you see you see what
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  Speaker 1: happens if we don't do this, Like you said, there's burnout,
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  Speaker 1: high app to you know, hid loss, losing of your employees, absenteeism,
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  Speaker 1: there's those you know Monday morning heart attacks, if you will,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, getting overloaded, right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and and and being in the space that
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  Speaker 2: I was that I'm in right Being in the space
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  Speaker 2: it's almost like you go to the barbershop. You know,
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  Speaker 2: when you go to the barbershop, you tell the barber
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  Speaker 2: everything about your life that you won't normally tell anyone else. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if you if you're to go to a
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  Speaker 2: barbership and sit there here, everybody's like or the hair dresser.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've been to New Year, just so where's
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  Speaker 2: hours of doing whatever? Here? You hear everything you tell
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  Speaker 2: you spill your teeth. And I hear that over and
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  Speaker 2: over and over and over. And most people equate burnout.
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  Speaker 2: They think it's a badge of honor. And it's not
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  Speaker 2: a badge of honor. And because it is such a
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  Speaker 2: hidden there's the signs are so hidden that people walk
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  Speaker 2: around with, you know, all the symptoms of burnout. And
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  Speaker 2: and that's why you know, I created the burnout pie
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  Speaker 2: or the burnout framework. The burnout pie is very visible.
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  Speaker 2: People can identify with it, people can associate with it.
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  Speaker 2: And so I always say to someone, Okay, first thing
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  Speaker 2: I asked, and what do you think wellnesses? You know,
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  Speaker 2: when I go into an organization.
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  Speaker 1: Question yes, someone, I mean somebody, somebody say wellness? Is
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  Speaker 1: that just working out?
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  Speaker 2: Right? The first say to me, we don't have a
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  Speaker 2: gym with you know, some saying I don't have a gym,
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  Speaker 2: and they don't have the money to have a gym.
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  Speaker 2: And I laughed and I said, you have a gym.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. But if you don't do it, I
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  Speaker 2: love it too, you know, because that's not what it's
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  Speaker 2: all about. When I sit down. You know, in the
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  Speaker 2: wellness is a happy and I studied the word wellness
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  Speaker 2: in every aspect. I break it down into a framework.
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  Speaker 2: The W you know, is working together but ease education.
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  Speaker 2: You know, every word, every letter in wellness is a
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  Speaker 2: happy thing where you can put it into the work.
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  Speaker 2: But the reason I didn't just do the framework with
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  Speaker 2: the letters and I did the pie because David, if
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  Speaker 2: I were come to you and said, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: here's your favorite apple pie, and if you consume that
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  Speaker 2: apple pie, all of it at once, you're not going
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  Speaker 2: to feel well, even if you have a big appetite.
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  Speaker 1: Even it's like my favorite pie, if you.
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  Speaker 2: Want well because it's too much. So in my burnouf
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  Speaker 2: pie and my burnout framework, there are eight slices. It
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  Speaker 2: could be a large, extra large pie, but I'm taking
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  Speaker 2: it now equate it to a medium pie. And in
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  Speaker 2: that medium pie, I take eight slices and I dissect it.
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  Speaker 2: It could be sleeplessness. It could be anxiety. It could
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  Speaker 2: be chronic stress, it could be mental stress, it could
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  Speaker 2: be depression. All that is in the pie, and I
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  Speaker 2: have the framework for That's all that I've said to you.
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  Speaker 2: That is in the burnout pie. A lot of people
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  Speaker 2: walk out with a full pie every day and they
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  Speaker 2: equate tiredness to lock of sleep, or they equate you know, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I feel tired and maybe I need a vacation. A
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  Speaker 2: vacation is great when you're healthy. A vacation is not
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  Speaker 2: great if you're burnt out, because you're gonna be on
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  Speaker 2: that beach and you're gonna reach for your phone and
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  Speaker 2: you're not going to be yourself. When I take a
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  Speaker 2: vacation myself, I'm on the beach for like eight hours straight.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I get a ten sometimes too. You know,
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  Speaker 2: all people the ten And how do you know you
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  Speaker 2: got a tann? I know, I gotta turn right, you know, so,
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  Speaker 2: because I feel this is heaven to me. This is
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  Speaker 2: what I like. This is how I do it. So
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  Speaker 2: in working with an individual, you know, And I was
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  Speaker 2: at a workshop the other day and you know, an
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  Speaker 2: HR person said to me, well, how do you teach
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  Speaker 2: the burnout pie to a group of people, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and I said, you know, good question out of a
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  Speaker 2: group of people. However, I don't just go into a
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  Speaker 2: group and say blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
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  Speaker 2: blah blah. There's a survey, there's questions, there is a topic.
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  Speaker 2: Because no matter if someone says to me, I don't
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  Speaker 2: have anyone, I don't think I'll find anyone that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have any one of the slices, even it's just that
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  Speaker 2: they have everything else what they have a problem sleeping
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  Speaker 2: or you know a little bit of anxiety. You monitor yourself.
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  Speaker 2: How are you when you interact with someone? How are
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  Speaker 2: you irritable easily? Do you, you know, wake up in
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  Speaker 2: the morning and you stump off the bed, and you
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  Speaker 2: stump in the shower, and you grab the coffee and
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  Speaker 2: drive three thousand miles? Are you slam the door and
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  Speaker 2: you go in? And most people don't equate that to burnout.
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  Speaker 2: That is a part of you can see when someone
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  Speaker 2: is in sync and how they can recognize it. And
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  Speaker 2: the whole idea of teaching from the burnout pie is
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  Speaker 2: because none of us are perfect. All of us have
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  Speaker 2: or whatever you know, we have our patience is not whatever.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason I push it for the workplace is
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  Speaker 2: because you take it home, you take it into community,
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  Speaker 2: and even the children, you can recognize burnout because if
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  Speaker 2: you have a child that doesn't want to go to
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  Speaker 2: school and cry in the morning, you better go to
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  Speaker 2: work and see that teacher could be burnout and taking
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  Speaker 2: it on your kid or whatever. So this is why
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  Speaker 2: I equate it to that. So they can take it
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  Speaker 2: home and they can see step by step and in
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  Speaker 2: the going back to the group. Going back to the group,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I will say, okay, today we'll just teach
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  Speaker 2: on detachment. And you would be surprised how many people
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  Speaker 2: say they feel that through various forces in the work
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  Speaker 2: I am not against everybody pushing for the promotion. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not against everyone wanting to strive because I'm very competitive.
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  Speaker 2: If you look on my link, if you look at
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  Speaker 2: my LinkedIn, you see a plaque I got from Lenox
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  Speaker 2: Luisi and the Mike Tyson fight. You know, you know
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  Speaker 2: I'm not out there boxing, but I'm working hard so
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  Speaker 2: that you successful and I want I was successful. You
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  Speaker 2: know in my real estate days, I have a whole
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  Speaker 2: office full of awards and stuff like that. Get your awards,
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  Speaker 2: but look after yourself. Look after yourself. I will sit
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  Speaker 2: and because I'm in tuned to what it is. It's
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  Speaker 2: not that I'm judging anyone or that I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: a workplace and disrupting the workplace. I'm not doing that.
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  Speaker 2: But surprised when you have a thriving, absolutely organization your health.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I want to so I what I heard
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  Speaker 1: you say here, Well, well, let's for sure, isn't just
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  Speaker 1: you know, workouts. There's a lot of things that you're assessed.
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  Speaker 1: And I heard you say too, Jasmine, and you're assessing it.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a one size fits all. You're looking at organization.
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  Speaker 1: You're looking at the person and saying, maybe maybe the
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  Speaker 1: gym is something, but maybe it's some chiropractor, nutritionists, masoce therapists,
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  Speaker 1: maybe there's other elements that they need to help them.
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  Speaker 1: Based on that pie that I just heard you break down, right, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: And so if you are not being intentional about that
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  Speaker 1: in your workplace, you know, because I think in the
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  Speaker 1: business roundtable, that's whe we're starting kind of ground zero
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  Speaker 1: is you're getting a lot of quiet, quitting mental health challenges,
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  Speaker 1: dis engage workforce. You know, they're not as productive as
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: they could be. And and I I try to come
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: in as as work with a healthy working with the
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: team in a healthy way. But if they're physically not there,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: it can't be present. They've got this that that they
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: that's really we can't build the team up. So if
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: we've got those physical challenges, mental challenge is you know
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: what you're what you're bringing up here is this health
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: and wellness standard that we're saying, Hey, let's let's raise
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: this up for everybody as a practical, powerful solution to
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: you know, lead more effectively, take care of our employees,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: help them around a lot longer. Right, I mean, yes,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I would love to abut this baby, just share a
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: bit about your journey in that and kind of implementing
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: some of these things you've done in the workplace. And
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: and just I mean, I think it's so powerful because
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: some people are saying, well, you know, you know, I
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: love the pie analogy because I think that's really helpful
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: to break it down of like thinking about it a
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: little bit more. Finally, because in wrapping our brains, abount
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: where people are at and how can we help them
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: more effectively if we do that. And so if somebody
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: like you Jazz been coming in and doing an assessment.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Some of the companies that just don't know. I don't
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. And like you said, well, let
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: me just buy you a gym membership, or let me
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: get you or shoes hard to give you what.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Shoes which have told me I one hundred and fifty
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: dollars to go And I took it about of shoes
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: and there's a major organization here that said that to me.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: He says, because I don't know what to do. And
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: you know what the burnupie does. It's not curing anyone,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: but is pointing out what's happening with you. For someone
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: that is mentally stressed or depressed, the burn up I
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: have them recognize there in that state so they can
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: go further with somebody who's qualified, you know, to take
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: them to that mental you know, cure them up. So
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: it's it's the bernupe is basically saying, pointing out, like
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: a big headlight, what's going on. And it all depends,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: you know, what's in my scope. I became a certified
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: herbalist because of that, because I want people to you know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: to have I got wellness holistically, which is my spirit
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm a certified yoga teacher as well. You know,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I'm into mindfulness meditation as well. And most people think,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: you know meditation, you sit for twenty minutes. You know,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: you can close your eyes at your desk for like
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: a few seconds and people just and just move your
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: shoulders and just sit there and just be present, and
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: you'll be surprised that the energy you get just to
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: do the next thing that you know you're you're doing.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: So when I go into an organization, I start with
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: leadership because the compassionate leader it's important. And what that
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: means is a lot of leaders are burnt out themselves.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: A lot of CEOs are burnt out themselves. And if
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: they recognize and so it's feeding off. You know, the
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: energy is feeding off, and it's just one big washing,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: you know washing missine cycle.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: And compassionate leader. I was in a podcast and I
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: spoke only on compassionate leadership because I said, okay, here's
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: a burnout pie. But the compassionate leader is going to
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: build a trust. So that person talking them about what's
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: going on in their pie, they can have an open door.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: They can recognize them with themselves, so they have more patience.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: They can understand that a healthy team is going to
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: cut you know, healthcare costs. They're going to thrive. They
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: don't have to be on that hamster wheel of you know,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do this, you know, and if I
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: don't do something fired And the compassion leader also has
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: to know and the world of AI. You know, one
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: of my videos on YouTube says, is AI friend or full?
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: And you know, I can understand where all that anxiety
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: is going to build up the more you know, AI
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: comes in, and people are going to be stressed out
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: and people are going to think it's you know, I'm
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: going to lose my job. But the compassionate leader will
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: understand and reassure their team. You don't have to be
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: in that burnout pie. You don't have to fear AI.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: You don't have to There's a way that emotional and
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: intelligence from a compassionate leader is going to tie into
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: the pie. Yes, you allow that workplace or that organization
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: to just thrive.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Well, I think I'm walking people in that
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: regards is important. I agree, And I think this is
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: where you and I definitely find synergy and overlapping in
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: a way of you know, knowing yourself as a leader,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: appreciating who you are, where you're at, and being able
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: to identify that. I think one of the things I've
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: done in my own health journey is just do like
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: a literally scan on my body and where I'm at,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: where am I from head to toe? Just being at
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: this and like I said, being mindful of what's what's
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: going on. Because, like you said, if you can't do that,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: start with yourself, how are you going to deal with
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: other people to lead?
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: To lead? Right?
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: If you've got to start, like you said, get with
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the top leadership and get them buying in on this
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: and saying, hey, this is really important. Not only I'm
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: going to live it, but I want to be able
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: to provide you the opportunity, the environment for you to
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: also experience this.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and absolutely, And you know, I'll tell you a
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: quick story because self diagnosi this is dangerous. You know,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: they burn out.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: The Yeah you're you're alone, You're isolated, right, and.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: They're saying I'm tired, But you know what is that tired?
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: This mean get to the root cause I'll tell the
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Brooks story to see how someone can mask something that
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: happened in a whole different area. So this lady came
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: in with her son into the facility, and you know,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: the son came out and he's a grown man. His
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: mother and his mother came in, and you know, I
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: looked at her. You look at her and you think, okay, yeah,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: you know, she's overweight, so that she's probably gonna talk
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: about the weight, right, But I send something when she
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: walked in, and that's where emotional intelligence comes at. And
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I said to her son, I said, do you mind
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: if we just if I just speak to your mom
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: for a while, you know, and then you can join
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: us later. And she came in and she sat down
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: and I sat down, and you know, I said, you know, welcome,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: thanks for coming in. And I noticed the tears was
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: like right at the lid. She was fighting the tears
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: to come down. So I sat back, didn't say a word.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I just sat back and David, she cried and cried
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: literally for close to twenty minutes, just cry. Didn't say
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: a word to her. I just let her cry because
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: just to imagine, she has all that pent up. She
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to cry at home because if she cried
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: at home or hubby is going to say not in
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: pain and then the funny thing is, I'm not in
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: the end, you realized that it had nothing to do
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: with what the husband was saying. She was just more
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: sensitive to what the husband was saying. You know, she
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: was in a high pressure job at work. She had
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: a husband who comes home who probably didn't give her
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: the attention of the time because she brought that stress in.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: He didn't know how to cope with that. So there's
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: this whole synergy going on home. But I sat there
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: and I just listened, and when I realized, okay, you
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: can't have any more tears left in her body. So
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: then I took a sigh and she said to me,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I said, I want you to come back in a
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: couple of days and see me didn't ask her anything,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: didn't see I'm doing a designer program. I said, just
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: like you to come back and see me in a
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: couple of days. Would you do that for me? And
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: she said yes, I will. And I said, that's a
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: promise you're going to keep, right, She says, yes, I will.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: And I think the reason she kept it is because
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I didn't know what I was doing. I didn't know
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: what I was doing. I know it was doing something
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: good for her. At the same time, I realized that
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: whatever it is, whatever it is, she was appreciated about it.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: She didn't know how to communicated. When she came back
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: the next day, she sat down and she says, the
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: first thing she said to me says, I have to
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: thank you for what you did for me the other day.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: She said, you gave me the space, and I don't
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: know how long to be me to let it out,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: to drop all the cares from work, all the cares
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: from home, and whatever self esteem I have, because and
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: when people are not happy, the weight comes on. Right.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. That's definitely a coping mechanism, right,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: that's more.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So she was in that and I worked with her.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: You know, we laughed about it. I worked with her,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: and you know, at the time, I'm telling David, I
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: probably needed a time too, because I'm usually going going,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: going like a hamster wheel fixing the world, right, yep,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: but what twenty minutes are close to twenty minutes of
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: just death side? You know how hard it is to
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: sit for twenty minutes and side waiting for twenty minutes, right?
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, So you know I kept.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Working with her. We designed, she kept her appointment. Long
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: story short, I didn't tell her that wasn't the plan.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: We didn't talk about weight. We designed a program for
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: her to be well. Yes, we booked in the health
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: clinic so she can you know, speak at a massag
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: get her missauw whatever she needed to do. Ended not
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: being a professional bodybuilder. Wow, weird all hot, but so no,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: you have a happy husband. No one cares at home
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: because she's happy at home, she's happy at work. She's happy.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: But she had to find herself.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, and so she found it.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: So that's wellness in all on its own.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I love that. I love that, Storry Jazz. I mean,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: one of the things you're saying that I think is
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: really important is you gave her the space. And everybody's
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: a little different, like you said, maybe the meditation, and
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I think I love the way you're presenting some different options.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: There's a sort of a herbalist, you know, the holistic
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: ways of what does a person need? And sometimes we
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: get stuck on only one, like I said, the one
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: answer it's the gym or something. I mean, that's the
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: people that go to the gym in an unhealthy way.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I mean they're in the gym that's they're working out
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: so hard and and they're like, you know, but they're
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: unhealthy in other ways of their life. And what I
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: find I love where you're coming in. And I want
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: to just pause because I want businesses to hear this,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and not just business owners, any leader of any team organization,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: because you could be pushing like just work that extra
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: hour and grind it instead of like if you took
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: five ten minutes of meditation and quieting your mind, you
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: can be so much more productive. But I think there's
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: what you're what I hear, Jasmine is educating and helping
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: people understand this different way of being and showing up
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: and they just want to like, you know, we're in
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: this place sometimes now where come to work eight to five?
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: You must be in there in an office and your
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: but butts in the seat, and that's the way it
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: has to be. And we're going like in these extremes,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I feel like and I'm what I'm hearing you, Jasmine,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: is you're kind of opening up possibilities and ways of
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: being in an overall healthy and well way depending on
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: and it's different for different people. You just gave an
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: example of this woman, so you can't just say it's
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: a one size fits all boom. You know, just do this.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Definitely not a one size fit all David, because like
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I said, you know, in the in the word wellness
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: is a happy word for me, and if minages well,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: it's a happy word. There's nowhere in wellness that said
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: you have to go lift five pounds a weight or
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: twenty pounds a weight or there's nowhere in the world.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: But you know, the is educated, that el is listen,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: the end is nurtured, there's success, you know, sustain. It's
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: all very positive letters in the word wellness for the framework.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: And all I'm doing is bringing the pie for people
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: to And there are two pies in my teaching. It's
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: the well pie. And it becomes competitive because people want
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: to get over to the well pie. You know, I've
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: had a month where my sleep has improved eighty to
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: ninety percent, you know, and sometimes they go over to
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: the well pie and some life, like what's happening to
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: a friend of mine, life happens, and you know, then
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: they might have to come back over because they're in
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: a state of depression. They might have to come over there,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: and they're going to have to work. And that's why
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I say, the organization don't just have me in for
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: a workshop. Yeah, I can do a workshop for a day,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: but you know, you want to waste your money in
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: your time for me to do a worship in a day.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't work with one day. It's not a
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: one one time.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Rome wasn't built in a day. You know, once you
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: have that pattern of creating that and there's some companies
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: that have to say that do it well. Some organizations
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: at the workshop that I was at the other day,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: a small tech company, you know, these young Jelli's there,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: you know, with their tech companies and they're proud to
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: be owners and their entrepreneurs. You know, I was, you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I said, you know, are we too small for you
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: to deal with? And I said absolutely. I said, I've
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: had individual listening a podcast and they just want to
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: work or they said, my dad needs to work with
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: you or my child needs to work with you to
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: understand the coping mechanism right of what you do at work.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: So I have all aspect of it, and like I
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: have the reason I stress in work, and I tell
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: the you know, the organization, the workplace, the mechanics shop,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: the finance department, the doctor, the nurse. The funny thing
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: about it, every profession fits into the well but into
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: the into the burnout pie. Hmm, every single profession. I
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: mean you hear the nurses, you know over COVID half
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: of them are gone. They're stressed. The doctors they don't
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: have enough non territors. When I have enough doctors where
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: they all go. You know, when you're a kid, you
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: can pick, you know which doctor you want to go
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: through in a block. You know they're burnt out to
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: in a you know, in a very different way. You know,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: there're kids that are going through so many things, teachers
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: that are stressed because of the shootings in school and
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: all that. I'm not saying I want to heal the world,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: but I want the world to understand and redefine what
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: wellness means. To that.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean I think you and I have
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: a similar passion. I think business, if done well, can
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: become healing and you can have a healing organization. I
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: think anybody can if you do it with intention. I
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: think what yes, I've seen what you're saying is by
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: doing that, you know, you get boosted morale and productivity
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: from your team, intent, retention and engagement, and you know,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: it's really a win win ultimately, but it is. It
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: is if anybody you and I have both done, you know,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: anything physical or anything really in life that we want
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: to get better at takes time. It doesn't just happen,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: you know, And so the more that we keep at
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: it and consistent, the better like likely of success. Like
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: you're saying, if it's a one time thing, not likely
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: going to have success, you know, But if you're doing
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: this repeatedly in building on these, you will actually see
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: that over time. You'll look back and you're like, oh, wow,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize. You know, I'm thinking more clearly, I've
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: lost the weight, I've built the muscle whatever the case
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: might be, right, I've reduced having I was just talking
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: to a gentleman yesterday. You know he's getting off medications. Okay,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I've reduced have less metigations now, you know. So we're
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: moving in this in this way. I think what oftentimes
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I think, Jasmin, what you and I face in the organizations.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to help with the people side of things.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: You're trying to help with people in their their wellness
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: is these things are Unfortunately we wait until until the
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: heart attack comes until something arises, and then we want
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: to take action when we when we could have greatly
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: minimize that impact the pain that we're facing there. I
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: was actually just tell you that we have to choose pain.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Choose your pain. Well, I've got to choose the pain
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: of discipline, self discipline and the things you're talking about creating,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: stay investing yourself versus the pain that will come later
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: on the consequences that will come. Right if we.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Choose, how do you redefine wellness? I mean, I've worked
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: for all my life, you know, in the gym aspect
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: of it, and how many heart attacks did I see
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: in the in the gym? And my other book is
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: you know, Monday month month and motivation. You know where
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: they leave work Friday and everybody says, oh, happy Friday.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: It's Friday, and this Saturday you're run around doing a
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: whole lot of stuff. And they start Sunday afternoon worrying
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: about work from Sunday afternoon. And that's why statistically, and
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I heard that statistic from when I was at the WSIB,
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: is that more heart.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Attacks happened on a Monday. Unfortunately, a lot of suicides
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: happen on a Monday, and these are the statistics. So
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: when the world has organization says burnout is an occupational
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's a catastrophe because it goes and
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  Speaker 2: notice and it leaves. It's like these little you know,
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  Speaker 2: burn it are these little fingers that grow into these
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  Speaker 2: big prongs until it's too late, and then you come
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  Speaker 2: back and nobody wants to really address it. There was
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  Speaker 2: a big pharmaceutical company that I went to do a
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: talk on and he said, I spent this month money
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  Speaker 2: building this big gym, and no one uses it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: And I said, well, you know, don't worry about the gym.
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  Speaker 2: The gym is great to be there because when you
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  Speaker 2: have a person that is stressed on deadline, the last
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  Speaker 2: thing they want to do is to go in there.
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  Speaker 2: It's good. Or one person says, oh we we we
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  Speaker 2: sponsor them at the gym across the hall. No, when
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  Speaker 2: you have deadlines and you have a boss that a
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  Speaker 2: leader that is you know when you upset with you,
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  Speaker 2: if you take too much time, you know it's there.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not just checking the box, which a lot
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  Speaker 2: of companies figure, yeah, it's in our budget, we check
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  Speaker 2: the box. Well, yes, is checking the box. You know
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  Speaker 2: the guy that said to me, he said, you know
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  Speaker 2: a big organization. I won't say it because it's well known,
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  Speaker 2: he said, you know, yes, you know, got one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty dollars of a month, and you know, I
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  Speaker 2: just go and buy myself a running shoes, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: not healthier. Done doesn't do anything for me.
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  Speaker 1: That's why you need somebody like you, Jasmine, to come
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  Speaker 1: in and help them structure it, assess it. Because like said,
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  Speaker 1: left alone, I mean, I hire a professional coach because
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  Speaker 1: I never did the weightlifting in the gym when I
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  Speaker 1: turned forty. And I hire someone because I want to
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  Speaker 1: hurt myself. Yes, I want to have somebody look at
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  Speaker 1: my technique, what am I doing? Give me feedback? And so,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, if you're a company or just checking
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  Speaker 1: a box and kind of throwing money at it and
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: saying well that's done, it's not you're kind of, like
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: you said, maybe wasted your money or not really getting
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: the impact that you really could. And one of the
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  Speaker 1: quotes I really liked on your website or you were
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: talking about like a healthy workforce makes a healthy company,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: you know, and and how do we you know again,
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  Speaker 1: do that intentionally and so you know, knowing why you're
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: here Jasmine on the podcast is so important because I
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: want to have resources for other business owners and leaders
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  Speaker 1: to know, look, you're not alone. There's somebody that they
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: could talk to and find out and discover right and
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: say like am I too small? Am I too big?
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know, to talk with Jasmine and get to know,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: you know, how she can help you. You know, I
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: know we're going to put the show notes so people
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: can go to your website jazz d health dot com
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: go check it out. And as we're getting close to
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: the podcast, I would love just kind of give you
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: to share some just key key takeaways or thoughts as
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: folks are listening to this, maybe action items other than
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: just following up with you directly that they should consider
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: or just think about.
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  Speaker 2: Jazmin.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, well.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to give your audience a free
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  Speaker 2: copy of my book The Hidden Signs, you know, identified
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: emotional burnout and all they have to do. There's a
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: walk up, there's a pop up on my link when
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: they go to my website, you know, the mindfil Scarity.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: It pops up and it just asks them for the
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: information so I can get it to them, you know,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: and as they'll give them a sap if they someone
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: did it today, in two seconds, it comes to my phone.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: They can do that. I have a learning shot on
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: on YouTube where I give snippets off workplace wellness, what
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: they do even just by sitting at their desk and
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: how they hold their hands up their desk. I see
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: your standing while you're doing the spot. Yes you know,
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  Speaker 2: and you know and all that and different things ergonomics.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: So I might be a girl, but I know how
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: to get a workshop going, and I can move things around,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: you know, to make sure things fit. So I'm not
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: you know, on the and if you go to YouTube
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: is just jazzity health period. I'm to subscribed and like
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: what they need to do. Get the book and.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's great.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much Jef for coming and sharing your
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: resources and your your feedback and your knowledge on this area.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I think it can't be overstated. I think that you know,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: what would change as well as priority in our business,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: in our life, what would change? Think about all the
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: positives that could come. And also, yeah, we removed these
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: negative things that we had heart attacks on Monday, you know, disengagement.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Let's let's change things. I'm with you as a.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Better place. Let's do it, David, let's do it. Let's
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: go change well. I don't want to lift one life
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: up other time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Thank you so much for being on the podcast. Jasmine.
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  Speaker 1: It was a pleasure having you. We will have to
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: have you back because I think this is a great
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: topic and it needs more attention. So I hope you
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: come back again.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Oh I'd be happy to be there so much.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Thanks everybody for listening to the
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Business Groundtable podcast. It is wonderful to have you here.
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• 38:30
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• 38:33
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• 38:35
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• 38:38
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• 38:41
  Speaker 1: everybody for being on the podcast. Until next time, take everybody,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Hi everyone,