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- 0:00Bound Bound banger management Fantasy hockey podcast.
- 0:03Woo woo. Woo, very nice.
- 0:10Welcome in one and all the banger management.
- 0:12The Fantasy Hockey Podcast with Jake, Josh and Kevin.
- 0:18What has two thumbs and is in the Fantasy Hockey finals for
- 0:21our league? Did you just call me or what?
- 0:27I called those books for you once.
- 0:32Hey, Josh, how you doing? Josh is just, if you're on the
- 0:36YouTube, you see Josh's face right now, it's definitely he's
- 0:39thrilled for, he's thrilled for the both of us.
- 0:41He just wishes he could have been a three-way final.
- 0:44We. Wish it could be a three-way.
- 0:49Let me get the let's go, let's do the intro.
- 0:51And then we'll, we'll, just, we'll discuss how crazy the last
- 0:56day of our Week 22 semifinals matchups were for both of us.
- 1:00And we'll keep it brief. Josh yesterday he sent us the
- 1:06Squidward looking at Patrick and SpongeBob having fun.
- 1:11It was. It was honestly perfect.
- 1:12I don't think there was a better meme to describe the situation.
- 1:16This meme has been running through my head nonstop for the
- 1:18past like week. Like it's literally just anytime
- 1:21I see any message in the chat I'm just like me looking out the
- 1:24window. It's brutal.
- 1:28Yeah, for, for. So for context, Josh got
- 1:30eliminated in round one in the quarterfinals, Jackie and I were
- 1:35in the semifinals and somehow some way we both made the finals
- 1:40and will be facing each other. Bangor management versus Bangor
- 1:44management. Listen, at least the trophy is
- 1:46going to stay within the family. Josh has held that seat for a
- 1:49long time. Josh was a three time
- 1:51back-to-back winner. Lost the crown last year to a
- 1:54non Bangor management Big Nate and this year I guess listen,
- 1:58the crowns coming back home. But who will get it?
- 2:01That is the big question. But how did your semifinals go?
- 2:05Because I feel like, I mean, mine was a roller coaster and a
- 2:08half. I know yours was a little bit
- 2:10more safe, but it's still obviously you're always stressed
- 2:12about everything. Right.
- 2:13Yeah, it was, it was brutal. It was, it was not as crazy as
- 2:19yours. But what happened was, is that
- 2:22us three were hanging out during the day yesterday and Chesterton
- 2:26was playing and then I got home and basically had Chester and
- 2:30gone to shut out, it would have been really, really bad. 30
- 2:33seconds left in that game, Mackey Samutsevich, my 17th over
- 2:40my 17th round pick, it was not on my team anymore.
- 2:43Scores on Chesterton, breaks the shutout.
- 2:45He still gets the win, which was bad, but like the shutout would
- 2:49have been really, really tough to overcome.
- 2:51Best 17th round pick was not on my team anymore, ever.
- 2:54And then and then I'm like alright, good goalie categories
- 3:00are set, we're fine, swam in, gets the back-to-back start.
- 3:05I'm like what is going on? And Kevin had to grieve.
- 3:09So we were both on the same page here.
- 3:11Yeah, I mean I was, I was like not I was too stressed to watch
- 3:15that game. I went to the gym in the middle
- 3:17of the Columbus game cause the game was at like 5:00 PM
- 3:19Eastern. While I was at the gym.
- 3:21I'm like peeking at the score and I'm like Tuner is my matchup
- 3:24guys. I've been losing my match up
- 3:25like the whole week. I did not lead once.
- 3:27If anything like on Monday my opponent got a short handed
- 3:30point. Matthew NYS first shorthanded
- 3:32point of the season on Monday in the semifinals of your
- 3:36championships. He put like straight zeros the
- 3:39rest of the games, but he died game really costing me.
- 3:42So it was just like an uphill battle the whole week.
- 3:44Um, I literally only had greens in my semi finals.
- 3:47Like I was just like Columbus got four games.
- 3:49I think Graves gets three of them.
- 3:50I'm just rocking with him, but it was an uphill battle And then
- 3:54I'm like, OK, finally I'm least I'm going to have my goalie
- 3:57category said I was winning goals against average save
- 3:59percentage. I might have even tied wins just
- 4:01with grieves alone. Lo and behold, 30 going into the
- 4:05third period, just 10 minutes left is 30.
- 4:07I go for a run. I come back, I see is 3/3 in
- 4:10overtime. I'm like what the bleep happened
- 4:14And then of course they lose in the shootout.
- 4:16So I lose save percentage. I don't tie wins.
- 4:20And then my opponent has a D Smith going and it looks like
- 4:22he's gonna get a shout out the whole the whole game.
- 4:24I don't do I get into the D Smith shenanigans because that
- 4:28was like the. Yeah, yeah, You'll go into it in
- 4:30a second. But just to finish off what
- 4:32happened with me is that then because of this win from Swamin,
- 4:39OK, So he got two wins. He was losing wins and then he
- 4:42got the win. Swamin Oh like on was on my
- 4:46opponents team. He overtook wins and then I was
- 4:48like, alright, I'm absolutely cooked.
- 4:50And then it basically came down to if he got two more assists,
- 4:55he would have won. He needed, yeah, your opponent
- 4:58needed Timo Sanheim and the Borak Dvorak to combine for two.
- 5:04Assists were too limited. Jackie from the playoffs, pretty
- 5:09much. So isn't it six win super down
- 5:12to the wire? Wait, Josh, this is literally
- 5:17the embodiment of the Squidward. Josh was watching our matchups
- 5:22or. Not.
- 5:25So say what happened with the Smith, then we'll get into the
- 5:28episode, and then, and then we shall begin and give Josh some
- 5:32air time because right now he's just smiling.
- 5:36I've been miserable. Before we get into the Desmith
- 5:40stuff, like how did you feel about like were you following at
- 5:42all our matchups or you were kind of just like, I'll just
- 5:45check at the end or what? I pretty much the second I got
- 5:49eliminated, I checked out mentally, I was like, I'm done,
- 5:52you know, So I didn't look at the app again until probably
- 5:56like Friday night. And so I saw how you guys were
- 5:59doing. I saw it was pretty close.
- 6:00And then again, I didn't really check until like Sunday.
- 6:03I was like, OK, I wonder what's going on here, you know, And
- 6:05then I saw that you guys were like both still up for grabs,
- 6:09like coming down to the last game.
- 6:10And then I was about to go to bed and I was like, you know
- 6:13what, like I looked at the match up.
- 6:14I saw that it was going to come down to that overtime between
- 6:17Dallas and Philly. And I'm like, this is gonna be 5
- 6:19minutes of time just to see what happens.
- 6:20Like I do see, you know, as much as I like to just check out like
- 6:23I'm done some limited, I still care, especially if you guys in
- 6:25it. So I'm like, I'm going to watch
- 6:27this over time and see what happens.
- 6:28And because like, I mean, and I point you pretty much had made
- 6:31it. The only way he could lose was
- 6:32if it was like a Dvorak to Sanheim to someone else, like
- 6:35goal. So I was like, he's pretty much
- 6:36in. But like, I guess there's a .01%
- 6:38chance. But Kevin, it was literally just
- 6:39like, if Philly doesn't score, a goal is out.
- 6:41Like even if you want to shoot out and fill you in, he was out
- 6:43like he needed them to score. And so anyways, I decided to
- 6:46watch the OT and then like it was not.
- 6:48It was like, so I felt stressed even though I wasn't involved.
- 6:51So, so no, it was I definitely followed along towards the end,
- 6:54but at the beginning I was just like, I needed a break.
- 6:57Let let me, let me lay the let me lay the foundation though,
- 7:00because going into the Sunday, I got one ad left, my opponents
- 7:03got one ad left. He's got way more fat than me.
- 7:05I had $1.00 to my name. He had like 60 bucks.
- 7:09So going into I was like, OK, I'm gonna prioritize Speaking of
- 7:12D Smith, but if I don't get D Smith, I'm not gonna go goalie
- 7:15because if I don't get this with that means he got D Smith and
- 7:18I'm just gonna go for a skater cause I had to flip points as
- 7:20well. So I picked up Taylor Hall who
- 7:22ended up like not doing anything for me.
- 7:24But then he has Desmith. And it comes down to that.
- 7:27Like first of all, I needed to flip points and hold on to save
- 7:29percentage. So the whole time I was like, I
- 7:31didn't even think save percentage was going to be in
- 7:33like a worry for me because Graves had been doing so well.
- 7:36And then my worry was like not being able to flip points and lo
- 7:39and behold, yes, right. And Connor Brown come clutch,
- 7:41Connor Garland gets me in assist.
- 7:44Anton Frondel MVP pick up this guy got 22 points on Sunday.
- 7:49Help me flip assists and points. And honestly, that was like what
- 7:53saved my season. And then grieves, you know,
- 7:56losing was detrimental because I was losing safe percentage by
- 8:01like a literally a few hundredths of a percentage.
- 8:05And then I'm just watching this Dallas game, guys.
- 8:07I'm like my heart. I give a hug to my to my
- 8:10girlfriend and she was just like, you, OK?
- 8:11Like, you, like, you feel like you're shaking you like, are
- 8:13you, What's your heart rate right now?
- 8:16And then we're watching like jury duty on the TV.
- 8:19But I just keep like peeking at my phone and picking out like
- 8:21the games. I don't wanna watch it.
- 8:22I'm just like, I can't deal with this right now.
- 8:24Like it's too stressful. But I do have the game on my
- 8:26monitor and just like keep peeking around when I can.
- 8:29And then it goes like, I thought it was over 3 minutes left in
- 8:33the game. I just need Philly to score one
- 8:35more goal. It was 11.
- 8:36And D Smith was my save percentage was .917 and his save
- 8:42percentage was .918. It was 11.
- 8:46I get. Is that a thousandth of?
- 8:49I don't know. Anyways, it's 1000, right?
- 8:52Anyways, I'm like, I just need them to score one goal, one goal
- 8:57and then 3 minutes left, Philly takes a penalty.
- 8:59I'm just like it's Dallas power play with like less than 3
- 9:01minutes left in the game. Like it's literally over.
- 9:03So I don't watch it. Then I peak and I see 30 seconds
- 9:05left in the game is going to overtime.
- 9:07I'm like, Oh my God. And then that Zigra's goal, like
- 9:10maybe there are maybe God is real.
- 9:12Like I am not a religious person, but after last night, I
- 9:16think I am because whatever fantasy gods are out there, like
- 9:20somebody was watching for me. I've never seen a more beautiful
- 9:23goal in my life. Trevor Zagreus, you are the
- 9:25GOAT. You deserve all the money.
- 9:26You're about to get paid by the Flyers.
- 9:29Literally save my season. My girlfriend took a video of me
- 9:32while I was watching the game. I did not know she was filming
- 9:34me. It would have been really sad if
- 9:35I ended up losing and that was I had a video of it, but it ended
- 9:39up being really nice. But I just it literally my
- 9:42matchup came down to the last play of the entire week and it
- 9:46was just nuts. I I've never felt more stress in
- 9:49my life. It's funny that you mentioned
- 9:51like, like your girlfriend filming you and you not like
- 9:53realizing and being like, it would have sucked if like, you
- 9:55know, I'd lost because it reminds me of like the just the
- 9:58other day I was like looking for a picture like my baby on my, on
- 10:01my wife's phone. And I just see a picture of me
- 10:03with like my hand in my like, like head.
- 10:06I like head to head in my hands. And I'm just like looking
- 10:08miserable. And I'm like, what the heck is
- 10:10this? And she's like, Oh yeah.
- 10:11You know, when, when Canada lost in in, in the Olympics, you were
- 10:15like that for like 10 minutes. And so I took a.
- 10:16Picture. Never forget that.
- 10:19Moment and I'm just like what kind of psycho you know, you
- 10:22could have been, you know, see if I'm like doing OK, you know
- 10:25like see if you could help or whatever and she just like now I
- 10:27took a picture so I can laugh at this.
- 10:29So funny. God.
- 10:31Alright, anyway, yeah, so today our Week 23 news episode, I
- 10:39think this. Is also doing.
- 10:43Yeah, this is definitely a record lollygag session, but but
- 10:46it needed to be said. I think people wanted the
- 10:48update, to be honest, and now we're playing against each
- 10:51other, me versus Jake in the finals.
- 10:53Yeah, yeah, it's it's gonna be it's gonna be a crazy week.
- 10:57Let's dive into the episode though, before we do.
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- 11:11Great place to be. This is this is the week for
- 11:15many of you. This is the week for for me and
- 11:17Kevin. This is the week that Josh has
- 11:18been in many a time as well. The three beat the the most wins
- 11:23in all of our our league history.
- 11:25So you know where we we now will have two of two of the three of
- 11:31us will officially be winners in the league.
- 11:35Yeah, I feel like people are shocked that neither Jake or I
- 11:38have ever won the league. I mean, I've finished, I
- 11:40finished second numerous times. It's usually either like Josh
- 11:44had that streak because it's only been like 5 years that were
- 11:46all in the league together and Josh won the first three years
- 11:51and I think he will. You beat, you beat me in the
- 11:55finals once, you beat Jake in the finals once and then.
- 11:58Twice. Yeah, you be drinking the finals
- 12:00twice, and the year that he beat Jake in the finals, he beat me
- 12:03in the semifinals. So it's like I have to go
- 12:04through Justin final. So it was it was a tough run of
- 12:07years. And then last year I made the
- 12:09finals again versus a non Bangor management team and then they
- 12:13ended up beating me. So like a lot of second places
- 12:16out here and it feels bad. But now finally in the finals
- 12:19again. I mean, listen, I was there last
- 12:20year. I'm basically the Edmonton
- 12:22Oilers just keep getting there and and not getting it done.
- 12:26So maybe this is the year, but it'll be fun to the fact that
- 12:29like I mean, Jake has been the year in the little bit longer
- 12:32than me. So take.
- 12:34Your recruited both of us to the league.
- 12:36Yeah, none of us. I'm great at recruiting people
- 12:39who end up beating me. It's fun, it's great.
- 12:43So we'll see if that happens again or if one of us can be the
- 12:46non Oilers this year. No shade to Oilers fans, by the
- 12:50way, but yeah, a lot, a lot of interesting stuff.
- 12:55Two of my players on the injured list and the mysterious Would
- 12:59You Rather is to come as well. No peeking.
- 13:01John yeah, I put I I had to hide the would you rather from the
- 13:03show dog because Jake keeps peeking.
- 13:05He showed up. He showed up.
- 13:06He sat down to record. He was like, oh, where would you
- 13:08rather? I was like, I knew you were
- 13:10peaking. It was a trap, but he fell right
- 13:12into it. I was very excited when I read
- 13:14this just because it's so funny and just fun.
- 13:17Bruce Cassidy? Not for Bruce Cassio.
- 13:19Bruce Cassidy was fired from being Vegas Golden Knights,
- 13:22which and they decided to hire the GOAT John Tortorella look,
- 13:27as someone who doesn't have any stocks in Vegas players for the
- 13:30rest of the season and ask someone who loves chaos.
- 13:32And my wife is the biggest John Tortorella fan cause I've shown
- 13:35her like some of his like highlights, you know, it's like
- 13:37press conferences and stuff like that.
- 13:38Yeah, he's so. Funny.
- 13:40Why am I just hearing about this funny?
- 13:42She's like, it's just like, I'll tell her.
- 13:45I'll tell her stories about how like, what was it like a couple
- 13:47years ago or just anytime he's been coached right where he just
- 13:50decides to bench his like best player, like healthy scratch,
- 13:53not bench. He'll he'll he'll like healthy
- 13:55scratch, like 100 point guy because the guy like didn't
- 13:58backcheck one time, you know, And she just loves that she's
- 14:00like, yeah, you know, no one exactly.
- 14:02Like no one should be safe. And I'm like, like, honestly, I
- 14:05find it hilarious as well. So I was just excited for her.
- 14:07I was like, you'll never believe who just got hired as the Vegas
- 14:09Golden Knights coach. And that was her first guys.
- 14:12And I was like, yeah, you got it.
- 14:13And he literally his contract is literally for eight games of the
- 14:15regular season and this playoffs.
- 14:17And they're going to reevaluate in the off season.
- 14:19So I guess we'll see. This is a trial period.
- 14:21We'll see how he does. I think he's kind of known as
- 14:23like a short term fix but not a long term solution type of coach
- 14:27so. But I think this is the the best
- 14:29team that he's going to in terms of like short term fix, right?
- 14:32Like he's he's been the the recent team that he's coach have
- 14:35not been of this caliber at all. And he's basically being gifted
- 14:38a playoff berth. I mean, it would be hilarious in
- 14:40Vegas misses the playoffs after they changed their coach like
- 14:42that. But from what I'm seeing, like
- 14:45Bruce Cassidy just did not have the confidence of the team
- 14:47anymore. And they were just we just need
- 14:48to change because his voice was a resonating with the team.
- 14:51I think another team is gonna be blessed with Cassidy as a coach.
- 14:53To be honest. It's kind of reminiscing of a
- 14:55reminiscent of like when Jim Montgomery got fired and then
- 14:58Boston, you know, hopped on that and or the opposite hopped off
- 15:03that and then, you know, Saint Louis.
- 15:05But it's just, I don't know. I wonder where Cassidy goes.
- 15:09And what do we feel about the these Vegas assets?
- 15:11Because Vegas has been in a deep slump.
- 15:13Their goalies have been not good.
- 15:15You know, a lot of their fantasy assets have been dry AF.
- 15:19A dollar sign, dollar sign. So what do we?
- 15:22What do we think? Yeah, I mean, they've been dog
- 15:25awful, as we like to say. And look at this point in the
- 15:28season, if this happens, like, you know, in the offseason or
- 15:31early in the season, then maybe I'd be like, oh, I hate having
- 15:33John Tortorella as a fantasy coach.
- 15:35He's on my list. He's there with Rod and, you
- 15:37know, a few other guys. But right now, eight games left
- 15:40in the season and he's not gonna have enough time to mess around
- 15:44with too much. He's going to be a new coach
- 15:46bump, regardless of who the coach is.
- 15:47And since they've been so bad, it can literally only go up from
- 15:50here. The only thing I can see may be
- 15:52happening, and I don't think this is going to happen, is if
- 15:55he decides to like tweak power play 1 and maybe like swap one
- 15:58of the forwards there with like a Theodore just to shake things
- 16:01up. But in general, I think it could
- 16:03only be good for because when you're playing so poorly and you
- 16:05get that new coach bump it, you only have up to go.
- 16:08Yeah, I think I, I agree on that sentiment.
- 16:12Perhaps someone who will be very adversely affected is Dora Phev,
- 16:17just cause he has a very offensive just it's like a super
- 16:20offensive game, you know? The second most points on the
- 16:24second most goals on Vegas. Jake is trying to just talk this
- 16:27into existence. Yeah, you say like the repairs
- 16:30on my team and you just speaking the bad juju out there.
- 16:32Alright, I'll see. Karma will come for you.
- 16:35The fantasy guards are real. No, the truth of the matter is
- 16:37that I don't think it's gonna affect you.
- 16:38This for for sure. Not this week and probably not
- 16:42even for the rest of the season, but that's someone whose
- 16:45deployment I would be quite worried about after going into
- 16:49the playoffs just because if he's a very offensive minded
- 16:52player, he's great at offence. That's why so good for fantasy.
- 16:55But into the playoffs, that's kind of someone I feel like may
- 16:58get the short end of the stick. As far as Tortorella goes and
- 17:02maybe Marner, I well know Mariners are really good
- 17:04defensive forward actually, so maybe this will be a boost for
- 17:06him. So, but don't worry, I'm not no,
- 17:09no karma coming for me because I genuinely believe that that's
- 17:13it's not going to affect him in the very near term.
- 17:16He's great. He's so great.
- 17:17Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you for that.
- 17:19Way better than protest, yeah. Who's not even on the ice
- 17:22because he's just not a fan of hockey apparently.
- 17:26But I think the main thing is the goalies like do you do you
- 17:29have more trust in the goalies now?
- 17:31Because it's been pretty bad that the percentages have not
- 17:33always been there, not winning as many games.
- 17:34Like, you know, we're in the it's week 23 guys.
- 17:37It's the championship right now. You guys be listening to this.
- 17:39We're recording this on Monday evening like you guys listen to
- 17:43this the Tuesday morning. So what are we?
- 17:45How do we feel about the goalie situation?
- 17:49Look, I mean, if you made it at this point in your season,
- 17:52chances are you probably already dropped Aiden Hill, right?
- 17:55Like the past like couple weeks, like it's hard to imagine
- 17:58surviving with the numbers he's been putting up.
- 18:01So I guess the the bigger question would be, is he worth
- 18:04picking up now that this coaching changes happened?
- 18:06And I would still just treated as an on a matchup by matchup
- 18:09basis. I don't think he becomes some
- 18:10sort of must pick up. I do think the team could get
- 18:12that new coach bump. That's such an abstract concept
- 18:15that I'm not willing to bank my championship week on it.
- 18:17So if I see that Vegas is a good match up, look, I've been a bit
- 18:20checked out, so I don't have the matchups memorized right now.
- 18:22But if I see they have a good match up, I'm happy to pick up a
- 18:24Vegas goalie to take a shot on him.
- 18:26But I'm not just grabbing him for the week or anything like
- 18:29that. The issue is they play they play
- 18:31tonight, Monday night versus Vancouver.
- 18:33So it would be a great a great stream.
- 18:36And I've recommended some people in the discord like they were
- 18:38asking like, you know, I need a spot star, like is it worth
- 18:40picking up? I was like, listen, if you need
- 18:41a spot start and Aiden gets confirmed because as of right
- 18:44now, we don't have the confirmation.
- 18:45It's like a 10:00 PM night game. I'm like I stream Aiden Hill
- 18:49against Vancouver and then with the potential of holding him for
- 18:51the next two games in the in the matchup for people that have
- 18:54week 24, you know, championships or the season goes all the way
- 18:57until the end. I think it'll be a relevant name
- 18:59to keep an eye on just in case like the team really turns it
- 19:01around and he's starting to get wins.
- 19:03But for now, I'm like, like Josh said, it's kind of just like a
- 19:05streamer caliber goalie. Yeah, I mean, honestly, I'd
- 19:08stream not prime Jakey against Vancouver.
- 19:11So I think, you know, like I don't really care about the
- 19:14coaching change. I've stream either way.
- 19:15McDavid is not on Vancouver, so how is he going to stop those
- 19:18shots? That's actually very true.
- 19:21Both very valid points. I think this is the like the
- 19:23latest coaching change that I could remember, maybe ever in
- 19:27NHL history. Which?
- 19:28Is something you could highly right before the playoffs, like
- 19:32going into the playoffs, I think I'm thinking of like a junior
- 19:34team or something or a, I don't know, NHL team or something.
- 19:38Anyways, probably move on. Yeah, let's move on to the next
- 19:41one, but keep we'll keep an eye on that.
- 19:43That's really fun. 6K UPLU Kopeka Lucanian seems to be
- 19:48taking the full time starter role in Buffalo.
- 19:51Alex Lyon owners can despair. But honestly, after the last two
- 19:55weeks, I don't think many Alex Lion owners are in the finals,
- 19:57unfortunately. But yeah, it seems like, I mean,
- 20:01we were kind of talking about this or I feel like I've been
- 20:03mentioning this for weeks being like I feel like at some point
- 20:06these playoff. On teams who have two good
- 20:08goalies that have been going 5050, they eventually have to
- 20:11pick a guy to be the starter because they're gonna need a
- 20:13starter for the playoffs. So I wasn't sure if I was basing
- 20:16that off just logic or if that actually happened in past years
- 20:19and that's what I was basing it off of.
- 20:20But we're seeing it happen now. It seems like 6 cases.
- 20:22I mean, and also in terms of who it was going to be, we always
- 20:25said they're going to alternate until one of them starts
- 20:27faltering and they're gonna give it to the guy who's playing
- 20:28better. And the last two weeks, lines
- 20:31been terrible and UPS hasn't, so that's why they're giving it to
- 20:33him. If the numbers were reversed, I
- 20:35think they have given it to Lyon.
- 20:36So it'll be interesting to see. I mean PPL I think both guys
- 20:40should have been already owned at this point.
- 20:41Lions an easy drop and ups and Mustad, but I think he's his
- 20:44roster presents already pretty. High for like real life.
- 20:47This is a really good move because they need to consolidate
- 20:51and actually pick one starter going into the playoffs a little
- 20:53bit before the playoffs actually start.
- 20:55Teams have not done that in years past and it does not work
- 20:58out well time and time again. But did they pick the right one?
- 21:02I don't know. Line was the one that was not
- 21:05playing well, right. The reason why they chose UL
- 21:06wasn't like he was playing bad. Like it will just give you all
- 21:08the stats. And I think Buffalo like they
- 21:12were, they basically won every game right until they the last.
- 21:16They had a three-game losing streak and they were OK, Now we
- 21:18need to like do something about it.
- 21:20So I'm actually surprised that they decided like after just
- 21:22three losses, after all those wins, they decided to switch
- 21:24things up. But maybe this is just kind of
- 21:26like cementing for the playoffs and like how they're going to go
- 21:28about it there. But to me, this makes line
- 21:31absolute. You drop him, Buffalo only has a
- 21:33three-game in week 23 and line was already only went to get
- 21:37potentially one start and the fact that we don't even know if
- 21:40that start is guaranteed now, I think you cut, you move on.
- 21:42I think PPL becomes a a really great streaming option If he's
- 21:45like the quote UN quote main starter, I'm confident he gets
- 21:47at least two stars this week and on a Buffalo team that is still
- 21:51one of the best in the league. So.
- 21:52Yeah, alright, let's get into some of the injuries going into
- 21:56this week. So the first, most important one
- 22:00that for Jake's sake or hoping is not long term at all.
- 22:04Nikita Kucherov is day-to-day with a stuffy nose.
- 22:07So Gage Gonsalves is taking his spot on power play one.
- 22:11I'm sure that's what everyone feels like who has control on
- 22:13their fantasy teams. It's like crunch time.
- 22:15And this guy is like, oh, I'm sick.
- 22:17But look, obviously he's probably actually sick.
- 22:20You know he's not just sitting it out.
- 22:22He missed two games, so that's like a more than your average
- 22:25sickness, you would say. Yeah, so I mean, the good news
- 22:28is that he's already missed two games for a sickness, so you're
- 22:32hoping that he could be back next game.
- 22:34If he's not, are you guys streaming Gage Consalvos this
- 22:36week? No, I'm just going to grovel in
- 22:39my despair. Like, I mean, sure, it could be
- 22:44an OK option. The fact is, Tampa still managed
- 22:47to win. They're they're so good and
- 22:50Hagel is a monster. Now I'm also worried that if
- 22:53it's contagious as Hagel gonna get sick if one of them.
- 22:57I think they should just rest. They're already there, already
- 22:59the top seed like they What's the benefit of playing Couture
- 23:02off this week? You know, I'm just no.
- 23:07Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby.
- 23:10But yeah, I I mean, if you own Kucherov and you're in the
- 23:14finals right now or the semis and he actually does miss this
- 23:16week, you are not gonna win. It's just that simple.
- 23:20So, I mean, I don't think it's OK to consider gauge consalvos,
- 23:25but it's like nowhere near a direct replacement.
- 23:28By no means am I mean, I need a way to wait to see what happens
- 23:31with the choose their report. I'm not picking up his
- 23:34replacement at this stage. Yeah, no, honestly, there's so
- 23:37many reasons why agent services is not the move this week #1
- 23:39being that Kudrow was not even confirmed out for even a single
- 23:42game and #2 Tampa has a three-game week, not a four-game
- 23:46week. Um, so it's, I don't think this
- 23:48isn't, wouldn't read too much into it.
- 23:49Let's move to the next one of Ginny Malkin of the Pittsburgh
- 23:53Penguins is day-to-day Anthony Mantha taking a spot on power
- 23:56play 1. I think that's a huge pickup on
- 23:58the five game week. We've seen Mantha do well on
- 24:00this spot. I mean it feels like
- 24:02Pittsburgh's top guys have been injured on and off for the
- 24:04entire season and Martha just keeps popping in on that power
- 24:06play 1 and killing it every time.
- 24:08He has so five game week which is insane amount of games.
- 24:10This feels like a no brainer pickup.
- 24:11I think we already mentioned him in our in our streamer episode.
- 24:15Yeah, we did. Hmm, yeah, and Crosby was also
- 24:18like day-to-day, he ends up is going to play Monday, Monday
- 24:22night. So as we're recording this is
- 24:23going to play a play his game. So you just listen to this
- 24:26Tuesday morning. Hopefully Crosby had a great
- 24:28game and hopefully Matt had a great game because while he's on
- 24:31that power play one spot, like he's a very valuable fantasy
- 24:34asset, especially if he ends up getting top six deployment as
- 24:37well at 5V5, which usually I think last I saw, like when
- 24:40Crosby wasn't sure to play like he was line one with Raquel.
- 24:43So maybe now he's going to slot into line 2.
- 24:47So I really like mental lot on A5 game week guys like there's
- 24:50there's worse you could get in a, you know, a winger on a top
- 24:54five power play unit. Yeah, that feels like a no
- 24:57brainer. Yeah, the only thing all out to
- 24:59the Pittsburgh situation with Malkin and Crosby out, I was a
- 25:04really low on their goalies. Now that Crosby's back, even if
- 25:08Malkins out like they could win, it makes both Skinner and Jerry
- 25:13much more viable streaming. Options.
- 25:15I mean, she loves. Sorry.
- 25:18Wow. No, not Jerry, just jarring
- 25:22mistake. No.
- 25:24Just weird not mistake and because of how bad Jerry's been
- 25:27and how how right we were and and Kevin's uphill battle in the
- 25:31TikTok that turned into like the the biggest downhill battle ever
- 25:35because the results spoke for themselves super quickly.
- 25:38Yeah, no, it's Skinner and she loves become a lot more
- 25:42interesting, I find. I will say there's one thing to
- 25:46mention for the Pittsburgh tandem is that we saw Skinner
- 25:50start two games in a row as well in Week 22.
- 25:53Like ended up getting the Sunday game as well.
- 25:56So like they broke that rotation just like Buffalo did.
- 25:58But then they have five games this week, so 2 back to backs.
- 26:01And she loves getting the first game of the back-to-back.
- 26:04That means Skinner will play Tuesday and then they have a
- 26:07Thursday game. So I'll be curious to see if
- 26:10Skinner gets that one as well, or if they go back to Sheilas.
- 26:12Because five games, one of them is gonna get three games, one of
- 26:14them get 2 games. So I would have expected Skinner
- 26:18to get all three games this week, but we might did.
- 26:20She loves. And if he's it makes them more
- 26:23of a valuable stream in my opinion.
- 26:26I honest, I honestly don't want to ever plays a Thursday cause
- 26:29that's Tampa Bay so. Just maybe Tampa Bay without
- 26:32Cooch and any and any team and any team is.
- 26:37Dora Fava is literally getting benched tonight.
- 26:41Any teams wouldn't reach. Would you have Eric Carlson on
- 26:43your team? I'm just saying.
- 26:45The amount of like bad energy you guys are sending each
- 26:49other's way is honestly hilarious to watch and I love
- 26:52it. I just just keep it coming.
- 26:54Alright, let's move on to the next 1.
- 26:56Thomas Shabbat of the Ottawa Senators is out for the season,
- 26:59at least the regular or slash fantasy season.
- 27:01That which is all we care about right now.
- 27:03Carter Yakum, Chuck took his spot on power play one.
- 27:05But I will say that Jake Sanderson is on the verge of
- 27:08returning. I don't think it's going to be
- 27:11necessarily this Tuesday, but maybe the Thursday game.
- 27:13They've got four games this week.
- 27:15So if it was, if Sanderson was out also, then I'd be very
- 27:19interested in. You could Chuck as a pick up,
- 27:20but I don't like making these pickups where the guy could just
- 27:22come back and bump him and make him irrelevant.
- 27:25So I'm not too interested in that pickup with how close
- 27:27Anderson seems to be. Yeah, you guys are listening to
- 27:30this Tuesday morning and we just got a report right before we
- 27:33started recording that Sanderson will not play on Tuesday.
- 27:36Ottawa has a four-game week, but it really seems like you
- 27:39practice this morning in a non contact injury.
- 27:41So it feels like it's really like right around the corner.
- 27:43Like I think Ottawa has four games this week.
- 27:46I think he plays at least two of those games.
- 27:47So he might not play Tuesday, he might not play the next game
- 27:49after that, but then he might be back later this week.
- 27:51So if you have Sanderson on your IR, like hold steady, it might
- 27:53be the week that you get him back.
- 27:55But that would make me like avoid picking you up Yakum truck
- 27:58if I don't already have them on my roster.
- 28:00All right, let's get to the Florida Panthers doing more of
- 28:03their shenanigans. I don't know why it pissed me
- 28:06off so much, honestly. Like we've seen teams tank year
- 28:08in and year out. It's just like the extent to
- 28:10which they're doing it feels so blatant in your face, like at
- 28:13least like have the decency to like pretend you're not tanking.
- 28:16But they like every single player on that team is just
- 28:19getting brought out back and like Old Yeller, you know, it's
- 28:22nuts. So it's it's it's crazy.
- 28:26So to add on to the already existing list of every single
- 28:30player on that team, Anton Lundell and Sam Bennett.
- 28:33While Lundell's out for the season, Sam Bennett only
- 28:35day-to-day. We'll see what that means in
- 28:36Florida language that just might mean on deck to be out for the
- 28:39season and the two guys are placing them are Mackie, Samus
- 28:43Kevich and Eto Luisteren on power play 1.
- 28:46Fun fact, every time I read each Westerinen I just think of
- 28:49Trulia, Caesar and I'm. Always very good thing of a
- 28:53Listerine. No, I always think of his first
- 28:55name. I always like Ekulo string and
- 28:57E2. Yeah, I I actually like this
- 29:04opportunity for Somas Gavich on A4 game week.
- 29:07He. Just saying that he scored on
- 29:09Igor. Yeah, you're just like so hyped
- 29:11on it. I yeah, he, you know, whatever
- 29:16Fiona gives to Shrek, I think it's like, take this, this token
- 29:19as my appreciation, whatever like that that to Mackie Sam,
- 29:22this is this is what I owe him. Best 17th round pick ever.
- 29:26But he's he actually could succeed this opportunity, if I'm
- 29:30being honest, because he's really decent with the shots and
- 29:32the hits. The problem is is that the
- 29:34Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday, especially the Thursday,
- 29:37Saturday are packed. So you're probably don't even
- 29:40have an open slot to put him in. But if you do, I actually I
- 29:45don't hate it and for the shots, hits and maybe even power play
- 29:48upside. I've been waiting for for Mackie
- 29:51to pop off all year early. I remember early, early season,
- 29:54like maybe weeks two or three or four, we were saying that he
- 29:57could be like a league winning pick up.
- 29:58You know, like obviously that didn't pan out that way.
- 30:00But the way he finished off last season, like with the shots hits
- 30:04combo and the fact that he was being given that power play one
- 30:06time, like especially with like, you know, bark off being out for
- 30:09the season, you think, and ketchup being out for like the
- 30:11start of the season. You thought, OK, maybe there's
- 30:13an Ave. here for him to cement a spot power play one.
- 30:15It didn't end up happening for some reason.
- 30:17The coaching, the coach kind of like flipped the script on how
- 30:19he felt about him. But now we're back in that spot
- 30:22where he's still that shots hits guy who has a four-game week and
- 30:25is on power play 1. I love this as a stream.
- 30:27Obviously the off nights is a big deal.
- 30:29If you can't play him then don't pick him up.
- 30:30But if you do happen to have a free spot on those days, then I
- 30:34think you could do a lot worse. I will say though, um, for on
- 30:38Sam Bennett, I don't actually know what his injury is and the
- 30:42Yahoo update had it as quote UN quote personal.
- 30:45So I don't actually know what that means if it's like a.
- 30:47Person tell you exactly what it. Means what it means having a
- 30:51baby. No, what it means is that Bill
- 30:54Zito came to him and was like Sam, unfortunately you improve
- 30:57our team's chances of winning games and that's not really what
- 30:59we're doing the rest of the season.
- 31:01I got you an all inclusive pass to Disneyland, but it's the one
- 31:05in France so see you next season.
- 31:11I did see earlier today that I think Florida has like an 8 to
- 31:1510% chance of having the number one overall pick next year.
- 31:19Isn't that crazy? Like they just went back-to-back
- 31:21Stanley Cups and then like the fall from grace, like right out
- 31:23of the Olympic break, they were like we might still make the
- 31:25playoffs and now they're about to get the 1st overall pick.
- 31:27Like that's just it's not it's. Not fall from grace.
- 31:30It's genius. It's like, you know, why bother
- 31:33getting exiting in the first round or like barely missing the
- 31:35playoffs? Just win cups, get first
- 31:37overalls, do both of those and win forever.
- 31:40It's easy. That would be so nuts.
- 31:42That would be absolutely crazy. I I will have to ask though,
- 31:46Jackie, has Sam been on his team?
- 31:48I had to answer a lot of Sam Bennett questions in the Discord
- 31:51today and this weekend because people are just like, you know,
- 31:54the ambiguity of the situation. Are you willing to cut to move
- 31:57on? Like somebody asked me, do I cut
- 31:59Sam Bennett to pick up like Patrick Kane?
- 32:01And Patrick Kane has been pretty good.
- 32:03And my advice to him was, you know, today or Monday.
- 32:05And I said I would not cut Sam Bennett yet.
- 32:09I'd have to wait to see if he's going to play on Tuesday because
- 32:12to me like that feels like a lateral ish move.
- 32:14Like kin could be better this week.
- 32:17But the your ads in your week 23 championship are so valuable
- 32:20that I wouldn't want to waste an add-on going from Bennett to
- 32:23Kane of both are going to end up playing And how the schedule is
- 32:26like it's so hard to fit games into your lineup already that
- 32:29you're not even maximizing games either.
- 32:30So unless it's a it's like a move to add like a pure off
- 32:33night guy and you're adding, you know, volume to your lineup.
- 32:36I'm still waiting to see official confirmation before
- 32:39making the move on because a lot of people have to wait for
- 32:41Monday and be like if I cut them now I can get like you know the
- 32:44the Monday Wednesday games. I'm waiting until Tuesday to
- 32:48have an official confirmation before I decide if I'm cutting
- 32:50beta or not. But what do you guys think?
- 32:52Wouldn't you like to know? Yeah.
- 32:57Yeah, in a league as deep as far as I'm, I'm waiting to see
- 33:01that's. That's, I mean nobody on our
- 33:03waivers that's actually good. That's so you guys think I have
- 33:06a league winning pick up in my back pocket, but I'm not gonna
- 33:08tell it to either of you unless you give me the right to, unless
- 33:11you give me the right price. You know, I could easily be
- 33:13bribed. Um, but.
- 33:15I'm discovered maybe like one of the best options, to be fully
- 33:18honest, like that's kind of where we're at in our league.
- 33:20But if you have a Patrick Kane of the world available, that I
- 33:24would do that. You would do that right now like
- 33:27it's Monday, like you want to make sure you have Patrick Kane
- 33:28on raw, so you would make the swap right now.
- 33:31Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think that I think
- 33:33that Kaine's been really motivated to play well, and
- 33:36Detroit is still pushing and they need to push.
- 33:38And I think that even if Bennett does play, let's say you take
- 33:43faceoffs out of the equation, you just have like the shots and
- 33:45hits. Kane could get better shots,
- 33:47power play, points and points. So I'm like, yeah, you're
- 33:50sacrificing the hits, but that's basically it.
- 33:52Yeah, but to me, it's more the opportunity cost of not being
- 33:55able to add influx of games into your matchup this week because
- 33:59you're not, you're not gaining any games by doing that, right?
- 34:01You're just kind of like making a lateral move to a different
- 34:03player. Yeah, that's the only card I
- 34:05guess. That makes sense.
- 34:07But like what happens if you wait and then Ben it's out
- 34:10right. So it is it is kind of a lateral
- 34:12move that's not gaining you games if Ben it's healthy.
- 34:15But are you willing to take that risk in the finals of your match
- 34:18up like? Yeah, this person also had
- 34:20Connor Brown on their waiver. So I was like, if you miss out
- 34:22on Patrick, I'd be happy as Connor Brown as my consolation
- 34:25prize, given I waited and was patient, didn't have the extra
- 34:28information. So it always depends on what
- 34:30your alternative is. If it's really bad and there's
- 34:33only one guy, maybe you are more likely to make that move.
- 34:35But I think it's worth a conversation because we don't
- 34:37know what's happen with Sam Bennett and knowing Florida, it
- 34:39feels like all these guys just dropping like flies and nobody's
- 34:42gonna end up playing. So I don't know.
- 34:43But this one, the fact that we don't know what the injury is,
- 34:45they were still ambiguous. It makes me think that he's
- 34:47going to play games this week. I just feel like like, so The
- 34:51thing is like, yes, you wait and then if he doesn't play, you can
- 34:54make the move, but you ended up losing a game in that case
- 34:57because you picked them up after they've already played a game,
- 35:00regardless of whether it's Connor Brown, Patrick Kane,
- 35:01whatever. So it's not necessarily like I
- 35:03do think he's a great pick up for this week, but it's not like
- 35:05I'm like like about missing out on cane.
- 35:07It's more about missing out on the games played.
- 35:09And even though it's like he could be back next game just,
- 35:12and maybe I'm just, I don't know why I'm so salty with for just
- 35:14doing. Maybe it just feels like so it's
- 35:16cause it feels so blatant, but I don't think they're rushing
- 35:19anyone back from anything. So I, I, if it were me, I would
- 35:22make the move and and pick up Kane and just guarantee the
- 35:24four-game week. And if Bennett comes back, then
- 35:27it is what it is at. At worst case, I feel like it's
- 35:29a lateral move. But and yes, losing an AD sucks,
- 35:33but I'd rather use an ad to guarantee that I don't have that
- 35:35debt spot. But I think it could go either
- 35:37way. There's definitely it also
- 35:39depends. Like did you already make an ad
- 35:40this week? Like I'm not using my second of
- 35:42three ads on that, but if it's like the first of three ads and
- 35:44then you could save two more for like later in the week, then I'm
- 35:47OK doing it. We'll move on, but the little
- 35:49asterisk have to say is like this person's league was and
- 35:52like a lot of leagues out there, it's same day as so like he can
- 35:54wait, choose to know if he's playing or not and then make the
- 35:56move Tuesday and have instant like ramifications for his
- 35:59roster. Doesn't have to make the pick up
- 36:01the night before like would waivers and stuff.
- 36:03That makes a huge difference in our league.
- 36:04It's next day, right? So you don't have that
- 36:07flexibility. If it's same day, then yes, I'm
- 36:09I'm so fine with that. And then you pick a guy who has
- 36:11the four-game week but didn't have a game on Monday, like like
- 36:14you said. So in that case, I agree.
- 36:15It's more if it's next day like I don't want to be stuck holding
- 36:18a guy who's out the game. Even a single missed game could
- 36:20cost you the championship. Alright, let's go to some guys
- 36:23who returned from injuries. We have Mikko Rantanen came back
- 36:25for Dallas line one power play 1 bumping Jamie Benn.
- 36:28Look, you streamed Ben for two four-game weeks in the quarters
- 36:31in semifinals on power play one very happy shake his hand.
- 36:35It was a nice doing business with you and dump him, you know
- 36:37so. So you're saying I shouldn't
- 36:39keep Jamie Benn on my championship, rather to be
- 36:41Jakey, I should just cut? Him I would cut him unless you
- 36:45have more cuttable players, but I I would not have any sort of
- 36:47attachment to him now that he's been demoted from power play 1.
- 36:51Alright, fair enough. He was loyal to you, so maybe
- 36:53you. Should be able to help.
- 36:56The mind games. For for, for Sam Bennett, who
- 37:01says no. I mean, the treat that line
- 37:03passed, so I'll say no. Alright.
- 37:07And then we have a Yaroslav Askarov of the San Jose Sharks
- 37:11is back, taking back in goalie, one position from the Delkevic.
- 37:14They have a four-game week. Do you think Ashcroft gets three
- 37:16of the starts? No, I think they split 22.
- 37:19And also I'm just very wary of picking up these San Jose
- 37:21goalies because they have not been good for a long period of
- 37:24time. And it looks like San Jose is
- 37:25kind of like falling off, falling out of the playoff
- 37:27picture. Of course, they beat the
- 37:29Columbus when Elvis was in net to steal points out of Columbus,
- 37:32who's trying to make the playoff playoff push.
- 37:34I'm just on the running. So I'm going to try to win every
- 37:36game possible. But it's just, yeah, I'm not the
- 37:39asker of. I mean, he's playing today,
- 37:42Monday. So he's by the time you listen
- 37:45to this, you'll know if you got lit up or not.
- 37:48I'm I'm too wary of the situation and I rode with ask
- 37:51Rob for almost the entire year, but I'm not I don't want him on
- 37:54my roster during these playoffs. I just think back to like when
- 37:57Asked Girl was the best goalie in the world and I was telling
- 38:00you to trade him, and I'm not saying you didn't.
- 38:01You sent out offers. I tried.
- 38:03I know definitely tried, but I was telling all the the you
- 38:05know, I was telling phone in the discord was telling everyone on
- 38:07the pod, you know, I'm like, you got to trade him.
- 38:09Same with Jackie and Walstead. Like the lesson here for 0G
- 38:12people is you pick up the great 0G guy and you trade him at his
- 38:16peak for a set, like a set guy who you know is going to be
- 38:20great even if the guys underperforming.
- 38:22Like that's how you do 0G in my opinion.
- 38:25Like if you just very even like a guy like Bussy who's been was
- 38:28great for months, you know, has not been great for the playoffs.
- 38:31Like if you could have cashed that in.
- 38:32I just think that in the future, I mean, my, I've made it very
- 38:35clear I'm not drafting any goalies next year.
- 38:37My plan, if I pick up a goalie who is popping off, I'm
- 38:41immediately going to try and and trade them.
- 38:43And a lot of times, look, a lot of times I get burned by that
- 38:45with like my traits where like a guy, you know, like their hot
- 38:48streak lasts longer than I expected.
- 38:50But but at the end of the day, it's very rare that they keep it
- 38:53going for the rest of the season.
- 38:54So that's kind of my take away from all this.
- 38:58Yep. Alright, should we get into the
- 39:00famous or infamous? Would you Rathers?
- 39:04I'm really excited to get into this because neither of you have
- 39:07seen them. No peeking, so just pure genuine
- 39:09authentic reactions about to happen.
- 39:12So tasty, tasty for me. Amaze, amaze.
- 39:16Alright, let's get into these. Would you Rathers, as always,
- 39:21fight. Would you rather is one of each
- 39:22position, left wing, right wing, centre defenseman, goalie.
- 39:25I always try to split the difference between Jake and Josh
- 39:28and have them, you know, choose opposite sides of of the line
- 39:32for these players that I'm putting out there, like the
- 39:36recent episodes during these playoff weeks, I'm trying to
- 39:38pick the guys that are like on waivers and that are like hot
- 39:41commodities that people are really talking about.
- 39:43So, um, gonna do my best here to talk about relevant guys that
- 39:47hopefully helping you guys in your match up and let's get into
- 39:50it. So for the first one, we're
- 39:52going to go left wingers. Would you rather rest of season?
- 39:56By rest of season, I mean the rest of your championship week
- 39:59and potentially Week 24. Would you rather Dylan Holloway
- 40:03or Pavel Zacha? Pavel Zacha, second star in the
- 40:07NHL this last week. Dylan Holloway on a Blues team
- 40:10that plays exclusively off nights this week.
- 40:13As you guys listening to this, they will have already played on
- 40:15Monday, but you know, rest of week and just in general moving
- 40:18forward, like who do you think is a better player?
- 40:21I just want to start by saying I'd rather both of them over
- 40:25Elias Lindholm. Yes.
- 40:28And you guys, you guys need to apologize to me for going Lynn
- 40:31home against Zaka, you know. I already apologized on a
- 40:34previous episode for that. I'm not doing it again.
- 40:36OK. I mean, for me this is a number
- 40:40brainer, but I mean, that's no surprise to anyone.
- 40:43The saying is Holloway all the way.
- 40:45And I've always said that and I always have and always will.
- 40:47And look, I what Zach has been doing is unbelievable.
- 40:51I think he's a fantastic pickup as well.
- 40:52But I just think Halloween ceiling is so high.
- 40:55Like when Zaca does it, I'm like, when are the wheels gonna
- 40:58fall off? This doesn't make any sense.
- 40:59When Holloway does it, I'm like, yes, this makes sense.
- 41:02He's a fantastic player in a great position.
- 41:04Like the cats are amazing. So I don't think that either of
- 41:09them have a bad week and they both can have a good one.
- 41:10I think the four off nights for Saint Louis is massive in a week
- 41:13like this with the crazy uh, Thursday Saturday schedule.
- 41:16And I just believe in Holloway a lot better.
- 41:18I like the shots and hits combo and points wise I see it being
- 41:21similar. The only edge I would give to
- 41:22Zacky's power play points, but I'm still much happier having
- 41:26Holloway. OK, so I'm on the same page with
- 41:29Holloway, but there is something to this where I actually like.
- 41:32I think Holloway has an advantage four games to four
- 41:35games, but when people are listening to this, it's gonna be
- 41:39Tuesday and people are let's say if you have the chance to have
- 41:42like a day of AD. So let's say this is Tuesday,
- 41:44you're listening to this and you can only pick for Wednesday to
- 41:48Sunday, meaning you're getting three games out of Holloway,
- 41:50three games out of Zaka. The Holloway games are the off
- 41:53nights. I think he is the better because
- 41:55of the shots, hits, combo, etc. Other than the power play, it's
- 41:59a no brainer Holloway to me. But if you have the chance to
- 42:01have an extra game of Zaca, meaning this is like today and
- 42:05chances if they're both on waivers and I think they are in
- 42:08some more shallow leagues. I mean, I I think I may just get
- 42:12the extra game out of Zaka. Honestly, if you could fit him
- 42:15in your lineup on the games like on the Tuesday, Saturday or the
- 42:19Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday,
- 42:21Sunday versus Holloway, who you definitely can because the
- 42:24Wednesday, Friday, Sunday or not that busy then like, yeah, as
- 42:28long as you could fit him. And if they're both available, I
- 42:30would take Zaca 4 over Holloway 3.
- 42:33But three games to three games, I'm going Holloway.
- 42:37Just to note over the last 30 days or the last month, Zacky's
- 42:40at 1.38 points per game, Dylan Hallways at 1.07 which both are
- 42:46are really good obviously is not causing incredible and Zaka .4
- 42:51power play points, Holloway 0 power play points.
- 42:54So pretty much the main difference is the power play
- 42:56points, if that's important, you know, let's say we're talking
- 42:58cats. Like if that's the cat that
- 42:59you're targeting, then I would go Zaka, like Jackie said, the
- 43:02extra game, I would 100% Zaka. Like I just think that same
- 43:06amount of games and partly points not being the most
- 43:09crucial thing in your matchup, what Holloway brings is more
- 43:12consistent and more valuable. For what it's worth, we took a 2
- 43:15second break. So that's why if you saw Kevin's
- 43:18glasses on, they weren't on before.
- 43:21Here's somebody. Ooh.
- 43:27She has not said anything and see if anyone would commented.
- 43:34I had to point it out. It felt alright.
- 43:36Well, so Holloway. Holloway, Kevin.
- 43:38Yeah, I mean, I love Zaka. I, you know, I'm a power play
- 43:42slut. But to me, the main difference
- 43:44is the offlines. And with how hard it is to fit
- 43:46everybody into your lineup this week, I think the offsets are
- 43:49so, so valuable because that's basically just like you can have
- 43:51a Holloway plus another player instead of just just a Zaka,
- 43:54right? So if it was, you know, same
- 43:57schedule, same off nights, then I would have Gonzaga.
- 43:59But Holloway is right next one. Talking right wingers, would you
- 44:04rather this is this guy's been asking a lot of questions in
- 44:08this recently, but Jordan Kairu of the Saint Louis Blues once
- 44:12again or Will Smith of the San Jose Sharks, Make sure you check
- 44:16your your stats on this one. BRB, just checking the stats on
- 44:20this one. That's a lot of silence for a
- 44:23BRB, but yeah, listen, I'll wait.
- 44:25Wait, can I do the Jeopardy song or are we gonna get copyrighted
- 44:28or something? You know, it's been stuck in my
- 44:30head is my wife been playing a ton of what's the game called
- 44:34Stardew Valley? And there's like a little like
- 44:36kind of like elevator music and she plays with the sound on,
- 44:39which also I just think is crazy.
- 44:40Like I don't know if I've ever played a game with the sound on.
- 44:42In the past like decades, I'm shocked that you don't play with
- 44:45the sound on. The music is like one of the
- 44:46best parts of like some of these video games.
- 44:49To be fair I'm not the biggest like gamer in the 1st place but
- 44:52I just feel like anyways this is the one leg elevator tune is
- 44:55like stuck in my head from like Stardew Valley.
- 44:56It's like do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do
- 45:02do do do do do do do. Anyways, if anyone to start from
- 45:05Lolly fan in the in the discord, please let me know if you if you
- 45:10liked my rendition of the Star Do Valley.
- 45:13I need you to repeat the names because my limited partner, it's
- 45:17like a hedge fund strategy where there's the general partner who
- 45:20makes all the decisions and then the limited partner is the
- 45:22investor. He just text me.
- 45:23He's like, yo, let's change our name in the finals to like make
- 45:26it match Kevin's name. I was like, are you crazy?
- 45:30You're changing our name in the finals.
- 45:32So please. Do that and I'll put mine as
- 45:35your name. That's funny, not to have it be
- 45:39the exact same name, but just to like make it like a similar
- 45:42theme. And I'm like, what in the like,
- 45:44we have rode our name all season and we're in the finals and you
- 45:47wanna change it anyway? Can you repeat the names?
- 45:50The names are Kairu and Will Smith and I've looked at the
- 45:53numbers so I'm ready to make my verdict while Jakey looks at
- 45:57them because he forgot what they were so.
- 46:00Don't forget I was brutally distracted.
- 46:02Sorry Jakey was brutally distracted from what they were.
- 46:05Thank you. Honestly like this is feels like
- 46:072 guys who aren't great. Kyra in the last two weeks at .8
- 46:11points per game and point to point to actually like decent,
- 46:14but over the past month his numbers are not great.
- 46:16Will Smith over 2 weeks past two weeks like .67 points per game
- 46:19.17 points. Honestly like feels like they
- 46:22both are kind of kind of dog water.
- 46:25But if you have to go, if you have to go with the one, I mean,
- 46:29doesn't San Jose also have the, uh, the four off night games or
- 46:31am I mixing that? Up they don't have 4 off nights.
- 46:34I know the Blues, I believe are the only thing that has four off
- 46:38nights. Um, I think let me check.
- 46:41San Jose has San Jose has two off nights.
- 46:46They play Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday.
- 46:49Alright, so the way I see it is if you can get four games of
- 46:52both, I'd probably go with Smith.
- 46:53I just think that he has higher upside than Cairo this season.
- 46:56But if you can only get four games of Cairo versus like 3
- 46:59games of Smith or something like that, then I just go with one
- 47:01with more games. I think regardless, like I'm I'm
- 47:05on team Smith all the way. If you listen to our playoff
- 47:08primer for week 24, San Jose is the best week 24 schedule.
- 47:12So for sure if you have week 24 is your finals, that's 12 San
- 47:16Jose still, I think going to be a bit more competitive than the
- 47:19Blues at that time. So they're going to be pushing
- 47:21and Will Smith is probably their second best player.
- 47:24And yeah, I mean, if if they are going to do anything and it's it
- 47:28looks celebrating has been super cold.
- 47:30I did think it was going to slow down, but I didn't think it was
- 47:32going to be as abrupt. So maybe he's due for some
- 47:36progression. And I was like.
- 47:38What is that of regression? Yeah.
- 47:40So all this to say, I think, I think that Smith can be a
- 47:43benefactor of that. So I'm on Team Smith.
- 47:46Then Joshua and Team Cairo. Assuming you can get more games
- 47:50of Kyrie than Smith, yeah. Yeah, I mean, Kyrie plays all
- 47:53the offline, right? So there's a chance for benching
- 47:55Smith on on Thursday and Saturday, depending on how your
- 47:57team is and how many spots are because who are you starting
- 48:00Smith over? Like he's not really super hot
- 48:02right now, right? So probably be one of your
- 48:03benching decisions to me. I think you go Kairu and like,
- 48:06obviously if you're listening to this on Tuesday, you'll you'll
- 48:08have missed the Monday game. But I still think those three
- 48:11off nights remaining in the week are so valuable.
- 48:13So this is a question for you that that is definitely plays a
- 48:17factor. And I do like the shot calling
- 48:19from Will Smith, Moore. That's always like a consistent
- 48:23production there. And to Jake's .324 schedule is
- 48:26really in in their favor too. So depends on when your playoffs
- 48:29are you Keep that in mind. Yeah, I'm going.
- 48:32I'm going cardio for the offline games.
- 48:35Yep. Alright, going defenseman now
- 48:39this one is maybe less exciting but I think worth a
- 48:42conversation. Or don't forget we're talking
- 48:45bangers leagues. So would you rather Sean Walker,
- 48:47the GOAT, my nemesis this week because Jake has him and he's
- 48:51been popping off, or Dmitri Orlov power play 1 defenseman
- 48:55for these San Jose Sharks? I love that Walker is on this
- 49:01list. Like it.
- 49:02Just like the fact that he's even here and relevant enough to
- 49:04talk about that is awesome. That's like.
- 49:07A lot of Carolina Deer are like valuable this week because they
- 49:10have four games and they're widely available so a lot of
- 49:12people have been streaming them. I also mentioned Sean Walker
- 49:15like 3 weeks ago when he was starting to heat up and I was
- 49:17just like keep an eye on him. So hopefully some people have
- 49:19them on their roster from there. But he's he's just been on fire
- 49:22and the points I've been coming to is honestly pretty crazy.
- 49:25I I can't think of a better bangers D over the past few
- 49:28weeks and yes, I have him so obviously, like there's the bias
- 49:31and the extra, you know, care slash attention that I've spent
- 49:35to it that but like I didn't even.
- 49:36Realize the numbers are there, they back you up.
- 49:38For shots like this is exactly what you wanted when you drafted
- 49:42weaker this year basically. So I mean, I guess no power play
- 49:47fine, but but he's got a short handed point in there, so that's
- 49:50pretty sick. No, I I I gotta go Walker here.
- 49:53Orlove's shots, hits, blocks are not nearly reliable enough.
- 49:58The points are also just going to kind of be all over the
- 50:00place. Is this powerful one?
- 50:01Though. Yeah.
- 50:03But still, I think like I'd rather just take these elite
- 50:05numbers for the peripheral categories from Walker.
- 50:09Yeah, I mean, you could call me a guy, uh, walking in New York
- 50:13who who got cut off because I'm walking here.
- 50:16Yeah, definitely, definitely. I knew exactly what I was going
- 50:21to. Yeah, I'm definitely going
- 50:23Walker. The numbers are nuts.
- 50:25Last two weeks, 3.14 shots, 2.5, seven hits, 2.14 blocks.
- 50:29That's like a top 6-7 draft pick that say, you know, yeah, yeah,
- 50:37yeah. No, this is a this is not no
- 50:39brainer for me. I mean, Orlov slash Klingberg
- 50:41been doing this all season. I have not, you know, like
- 50:43they've had their stretches of doing stuff and then sucking and
- 50:47I'm just not interested at all. I mean, look, if if you had
- 50:50worse options than Walker, then I could see picking up more law
- 50:52for the week, for the four-game week.
- 50:54But if Walker is there, to me it's a no brainer.
- 50:57Yeah, I mean, I tried to find somebody that was widely
- 50:59available, that was maybe P1 that could maybe sway you
- 51:01against walkable. Walker has just been so insane.
- 51:03Feels like if he's available on your waivers, like he's a
- 51:05priority pickup right now, he doesn't even play on Mondays.
- 51:08So you'd be able to get like the Tuesday, Tuesday, Thursday,
- 51:12Saturday, Sunday. And even though most of those
- 51:14are heavy nights, like this is the guy that's going to win you
- 51:17a lot of bangers, cats and probably lose me to championship
- 51:19this week, right, Jake? Yeah.
- 51:25All right. Going to goalies.
- 51:27Now, I, I did not mean to honestly put a lot of Jake's
- 51:30players on this list, but it just so happened that it ended
- 51:33up this way. But would you recommend, Yeah,
- 51:36Brandon Bussey of the Carolina Hurricanes or Jacob Markstrom of
- 51:41the New Jersey Devils? Hmm.
- 51:44I mean like like I said, I've been a bit checked out last two
- 51:47weeks, but when I last was dialed in, which was about a
- 51:50week and a half ago, to me it's an easy Markstrom.
- 51:53So I don't know if things have changed too much in the last
- 51:55week and a half since I last checked, but when I last.
- 51:57Checked. I'm looking now, but Freddie
- 52:01Anderson was the starter, you know, and when I was last
- 52:05looking. They've kind of been alternating
- 52:07though, so I assume it's a four-game week though they play
- 52:10the first game on Tuesday. Like I'm assuming Busy gets two
- 52:13games this week. Markstrom also has four games.
- 52:16I assume he gets three games this week.
- 52:18He'll probably get Rangers, Capitals and Habs on the
- 52:22weekend. So honestly, it's it's tough
- 52:26because Carolina is a better team than than New Jersey, but
- 52:28New Jersey's been hot, Marsham, they both kind of been leaky a
- 52:31little bit so. Yeah, I'm looking at the numbers
- 52:34now. I'm going Markstrom still.
- 52:36I think he's gonna get more starts.
- 52:37So he's got the quantity quality wise, both of them, you know,
- 52:41couldn't hit a .900 if they if they tried, you know, it was
- 52:43looking them right in the face. So look, they're both gonna be
- 52:46like a .895 in every game they play.
- 52:48And The thing is that, but he's also going to get you away fewer
- 52:51shots in the games that he plays because Carolina just lets in so
- 52:53few shots against. So for me, I'm going Marshman.
- 52:56Marshman like it's not going to happen.
- 52:58But literally like a week and a half ago he was starting back to
- 53:01backs, right? Like there is the relevant
- 53:03possibility gets for it's not gonna happen because it just
- 53:05doesn't happen, especially with the team that's out of the
- 53:07playoffs. But like he's gonna get you so
- 53:09much more quantity and the quality is so the same for both.
- 53:13And I think that New Jersey has the better matchups this week.
- 53:16So for those reasons, I'm going to restroom.
- 53:19Yeah, I echo that sentiment, especially because of the
- 53:22matchups. And I don't know why they're
- 53:24not, you know? OK.
- 53:28They're playing Brandon Moore. You mean Brandon Bussey of the
- 53:34Carolina Hurricanes? Yeah, I I I couldn't say the
- 53:38sentence that I was originally gonna say.
- 53:40But anyway, all of this to say, like pussy deserves the lion
- 53:47share of the stars and he deserved it.
- 53:51Use way better. He's still way better and
- 53:52they're just not giving it to him.
- 53:54I don't know. It's another question mark for
- 53:56Rod. You need to be a mediocre player
- 53:59looking to revitalize your career.
- 54:01So what Rod loves. Otherwise, if you're like a a
- 54:05perspective superstar, if you're a random in one of the best
- 54:09players in the league, you will not thrive.
- 54:12But if you're like. Taylor Hall.
- 54:14Shaun Walker, Yeah, Like these guys, they're gossip, spare, you
- 54:18know what I mean? Like, this is like, this is
- 54:20where Raw thrives now, Bussy Bussy's a better goalie than
- 54:25Anderson at this point in their careers, and they're still
- 54:27giving it to him. So one, you'll get three games
- 54:29out of Mark. Some very likely as opposed to I
- 54:32would say too, I hope out of out of busy so that's you're going
- 54:37to get more volume and the easier opponents 100% even
- 54:40though Carolina can win all of those games, especially if they
- 54:44play bussy in three of them. Yeah, I still think like the
- 54:48Marshall's a better pick. Yeah, I'm also going Markstrom,
- 54:54last one. I'm talking the Senate position
- 54:58now. This one I kind of changed a
- 54:59lot. I wanted to talk.
- 55:00I feel centres always have some spicy names, so I try to make it
- 55:02a special one. But would you rather from the
- 55:08best team in the league, the Chicago Blackhawks, Anton
- 55:11Frondel? I mean, listen, he's, he's not
- 55:14maybe not playing centre, but he's centre eligible on Yahoo.
- 55:17Would you rather Anton Frondel or Matt Barzal who you listen
- 55:24from? There is not the best schedule
- 55:26this week, but this new connection with Bedard has been
- 55:29fun. Barzal has been ice cold for New
- 55:33York Islanders team that is desperate to make the playoffs.
- 55:35People are cutting bars out going into their championship
- 55:37matchups this week. How do we feel?
- 55:40I mean, I, I, I just looked at it.
- 55:42I know from Dell's at like 4 points and four games and and
- 55:46he's his shot volumes looking real nice and Barcelona just
- 55:49straight zeros. So it's tough, but friendly's
- 55:53only got 3 games. They do have that off night,
- 55:55right? So that I think that helps, but
- 55:57so does New York, right? If I again I'm.
- 56:00From those on off nights, they played Tuesday, Thursday,
- 56:03Saturday, they play on the heavy nights.
- 56:05OK, And Chicago's off night was last week, but Islanders have
- 56:07the have the off night, right? Yeah, they have four games and
- 56:11they play Monday, Tuesday and then Friday, Saturday.
- 56:15So they have one off night, not including the Monday that is
- 56:19happening as we speak. Yeah, so for me, I'm going
- 56:22Barzel still. I know that Frondel's been
- 56:24hotter, but I think that just the situation of Islanders are
- 56:28desperate to make the playoffs. They've got the four-game week,
- 56:30they've got the off nights. Barzel is a better player at
- 56:33this point. You know, like Frondel has is a
- 56:34great prospect who hopefully, you know, we'll have a great
- 56:37career ahead of him. But I just think I gotta go with
- 56:40the with Barzel, the schedules were flipped.
- 56:42I would go with Rondell, but but because of the schedules and I
- 56:46think like the hot streak is nice, but if he even has like 1
- 56:50game of zeros, that's like a third of the week, especially
- 56:52cause if you can even play him on all those games.
- 56:54I just think that Barzel's upside is just so high with the
- 56:57week that he has ahead of him that even though he's been ice
- 56:59cold, I'd rather just take the chance on the volume.
- 57:02If you can fit him in all of the games.
- 57:07I'm going from Dell because one so it's a thing where, you know,
- 57:13young players come into the league and sort of just start
- 57:15killing it and and have like a great end to the season 2.
- 57:18He's playing with Bedard and three was already an elite level
- 57:21prospect. So he has like the three stars
- 57:25Triple Crown of being able to succeed.
- 57:27I actually think he's tremendous.
- 57:28And I guess you're getting that one extra game of Barzel because
- 57:31then you'll for sure be able to find him in your lineup.
- 57:33But look, provided that you can play them for the three
- 57:38remaining games that they have this week, yeah, I'll pick.
- 57:42I mean, you might have both on your rows.
- 57:44You have to choose who you're starting, right?
- 57:45That might be the decision that you have to me.
- 57:48Like maybe, maybe. What what I'm going from Dell
- 57:51there if you have to choose between them?
- 57:53Yeah, exactly. That's what I was literally
- 57:55about to say. I feel like if I have to choose,
- 57:56they're both of my roster right now and have to start one in my
- 57:58lineup. Like I'm going to start from
- 57:59Dell. He's just hotter there.
- 58:01It's more exciting to to to watch and to have on my fantasy
- 58:06team. And maybe I'm just biased
- 58:07because he, you know, helped me clinch the finals Sunday.
- 58:12But I mean, at this point, you gotta write the guidance and
- 58:15that's hot. And he's playing on power.
- 58:16Play one with Bedard and I, I just, Barzal is so cold and the
- 58:22Islands have been scoring goals and he's not being a part of it.
- 58:24So he's a better, like he should be better, but he's not right
- 58:27now and I can't just take the chance.
- 58:29Yeah, I mean I didn't take into account the fact that since
- 58:31we're recording this on Monday, like by the time this comes out
- 58:33they'll have the same amount of games played.
- 58:35So and then the off nights like you said, if you can fit them in
- 58:38the schedule, same amount of games played.
- 58:39I like Frondel as well. For me it was more just like if
- 58:42it's like a four games of ours all versus 2 games of Rondell,
- 58:44to me it's a no brainer. Go with the four-game guide no
- 58:46matter what the ice cold versus hot streak. 4 versus 3, but
- 58:50yeah. I just meant like if you can't
- 58:52fit Frondel and all and all those because on the busy night.
- 58:57But yeah, I guess, listen, did I split the difference on any of
- 59:00them today? I think it's good.
- 59:02Will Smith, Cairo. And Holloway, Zaka, I think you
- 59:06and Zaka, right? Or did you go Holloway?
- 59:07Well, I went Zaca provided the schedule because that was like a
- 59:10schedule for. Versus like the caveat for like
- 59:12everything now since we're in the finals.
- 59:15Well, I mean, there is the week 24, right?
- 59:17So that's part of it. But yeah, alright, well, that
- 59:21wraps it up. Yes, thank you to everybody for
- 59:23listening to week 23 news updates and would you rather
- 59:27that was a good one, Very spicy. This this was a good different
- 59:30splitter. You, you did.
- 59:31You did well with. Would you rather for sure.
- 59:33I did my best. And we didn't peak.
- 59:37No, we didn't peak and listen, this is a this is a big episode
- 59:41because we're we're prime in the middle of a lot of championship
- 59:44week. So, um, I mean, it's just it's
- 59:49crazy. The season is almost over,
- 59:51Jackie and versus me in the finals.
- 59:55I don't think I'll have more stress ever in my whole life
- 59:57than this literally this week right now.
- 1:00:00So I hope everybody like wish you good luck on your finals
- 1:00:04matchups. I know a lot of you are in your
- 1:00:05finals. I know a lot of you already won
- 1:00:07the title crazy enough, but in the discord let us know where
- 1:00:10you're at and where your matchups look like.
- 1:00:14Yeah, in that that fantasy bragging channel, I wanna see
- 1:00:16all the all the winners in the discord just posting their their
- 1:00:19ships so I could, you know, feel less bad about myself and just
- 1:00:23live through you guys. Josh beat me at Catan one time
- 1:00:27and started playing. All I do is win for like 5
- 1:00:30straight minutes, so all that energy if you win.
- 1:00:36I I think I'm the reigning Gatan champion.
- 1:00:38Between the three of us, I'm just putting it out there.
- 1:00:40Yeah, honestly, I'm starting to feel like, like the haves, you
- 1:00:42know, like I have the most cups, but like, what have you done for
- 1:00:45me lately? You know, like, yeah.
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