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- 0:29Speaker 1: not the only one that's going to tell you this,
- 0:30Speaker 1: and I'm sure you've heard it a million times. We've
- 0:32Speaker 1: been waiting for this book. I mean, we have been
- 0:34Speaker 1: waiting very patiently because of all the junk that's been
- 0:37Speaker 1: in the trunk. But the problem is now is that
- 0:40Speaker 1: now we hold a story that we will cherish forever.
- 0:43Speaker 1: A good problem to have because we need to know
- 0:47Speaker 1: about Kate.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Yes you do, and I tell it all right here
- 0:52Speaker 2: in this book.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you a question, because one
- 0:54Speaker 1: of the things that always stumped me when I was
- 0:56Speaker 1: growing up with with led Zeppelin is that they always
- 0:58Speaker 1: said that led Zeppelin was always the reason why people
- 1:01Speaker 1: love them was because of the mystique. I think Kate
- 1:03Speaker 1: falls in the same thing. She's got so much mistique
- 1:06Speaker 1: around her that it's like, how can you not be
- 1:09Speaker 1: in love with this story?
- 1:11Speaker 2: Right?
- 1:12Speaker 3: Well, the comparison to Diana is you know inescapable, yes, yeah.
- 1:17Speaker 2: And the difference, I mean there are similarities.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Are They both have that you know, human touch, the compassion,
- 1:23Speaker 3: the charisma, the beauty, the style.
- 1:27Speaker 2: They both have a kind of.
- 1:28Speaker 3: Rascally twinkle occasionally and their young mothers mothers you know,
- 1:32Speaker 3: who adore their children, and they make it pretty obvious.
- 1:35Speaker 3: The big difference here is that Kate has a husband
- 1:39Speaker 3: who loves her. You know, Diana and Charles hated each
- 1:43Speaker 3: other to the point where Charles was, you know, you know,
- 1:46Speaker 3: throwing stuff that Diana and she was she was throwing
- 1:49Speaker 3: herself off the stairs and crat to kill herself and
- 1:53Speaker 3: that all stuff that William and Harry were caught in
- 1:55Speaker 3: the middle of. So you look at what Kate is
- 1:58Speaker 3: bringing on top of all the mist and the kind
- 2:01Speaker 3: of glamour that she brings, is this sense of normalcy.
- 2:06Speaker 3: Also because she has a normal childhood, She has a
- 2:09Speaker 3: solid family, her parents have been married forever and William
- 2:13Speaker 3: really kind of cherishes that because k he doesn't know
- 2:16Speaker 3: how to He's never known a family life like that,
- 2:19Speaker 3: but Kate has and she's bringing it to his family.
- 2:21Speaker 3: So George and Charlotte and Louis are all benefiting from
- 2:27Speaker 3: Kate's solid background.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Well, she has taught me one thing family, I swear
- 2:31Speaker 1: to God. Ever since day one, when when when the
- 2:34Speaker 1: babies were being born, I just felt this, this incredible
- 2:37Speaker 1: sense of family, and I love it. And that's what
- 2:41Speaker 1: I want from this book as well. And I do
- 2:42Speaker 1: hold your book onto like, oh my God, I now
- 2:45Speaker 1: have a key to the front door of their family.
- 2:49Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:50Speaker 3: And it all came to the head with this cancer
- 2:52Speaker 3: diagnosis two years ago, you know, I mean that was
- 2:55Speaker 3: I mean, they said, look the biggest of course, she
- 2:59Speaker 3: said she felt like when she was told, well, I
- 3:01Speaker 3: write about how she was just going in for this
- 3:03Speaker 3: operation for what she thought was a benign abdominal problem
- 3:07Speaker 3: surgery and the Pope's Francis's personal surgeons were flown in
- 3:13Speaker 3: from secretly from Rome and they did the surgery. But
- 3:17Speaker 3: then shock she gets she finds out she has cancer.
- 3:21Speaker 3: At the same moment the King finds out down the
- 3:23Speaker 3: hall of the same clinic that he also has cancer.
- 3:27Speaker 2: But anyway, the.
- 3:27Speaker 3: First her first thought, Her first thought after the shock
- 3:30Speaker 3: of it all, was how do we tell the kids?
- 3:31Speaker 3: So they decided they'd wait two months when the kids
- 3:34Speaker 3: could get home from Easter break from school.
- 3:37Speaker 2: They all go to the same school.
- 3:39Speaker 3: William and Kate drive the kids to school in the
- 3:41Speaker 3: more they take turns fifteen minute drive. But you know,
- 3:45Speaker 3: so she's getting chemotherapy secretly in London, very cloak and dagger.
- 3:50Speaker 3: Nobody knows where she is, and the internet goes nuts.
- 3:53Speaker 3: You know, where's Kate? She's superior?
- 3:54Speaker 2: Has she died?
- 3:55Speaker 3: Is she you know, has the marriage broken up? And
- 4:00Speaker 3: then crazy stuff like oh, she's gonna suddenly appear, you know,
- 4:04Speaker 3: and in you know, on television and announce what's happening,
- 4:07Speaker 3: but in the masked singer.
- 4:09Speaker 2: But you know, crazy stuff.
- 4:12Speaker 3: And and then she makes that video, you know, after
- 4:16Speaker 3: she's had a chance to talk.
- 4:18Speaker 1: Yeah, when I saw that video, I swear to God,
- 4:23Speaker 1: that changed me because not only was I hearing her voice,
- 4:28Speaker 1: because that I think, I swear to God, that was
- 4:29Speaker 1: one of the first times that I got to hear
- 4:31Speaker 1: her in a lengthy conversation where it wasn't about anything
- 4:36Speaker 1: but what she was sharing. Oh God, dude, it is
- 4:39Speaker 1: still inside my soul.
- 4:41Speaker 3: Right, right, and when you think of all everything that's
- 4:44Speaker 3: going on in the world, and it was going on then, right,
- 4:47Speaker 3: but the whole world came to a grinding hall when.
- 4:51Speaker 2: She gave that and me. You know, it's just everyone
- 4:53Speaker 2: was shocked and a lot.
- 4:54Speaker 3: Of people, I think were humbled by the fact that
- 4:58Speaker 3: they allowed themselves to think all this crazy, he's stupid
- 5:00Speaker 3: stuff when she was really facing a life and death situation.
- 5:04Speaker 2: And now she's been a.
- 5:06Speaker 3: Remission for fifteen months, which is great, and she's picking
- 5:09Speaker 3: up her schedule a bit, but you know, it's been
- 5:12Speaker 3: it's been a real brutally. Hey, there's William having to
- 5:17Speaker 3: deal not only with his wife's cancer, but his father's cancer.
- 5:20Speaker 3: And his father is the King of England, and therefore
- 5:24Speaker 3: William was having to step in for Charles in many
- 5:28Speaker 3: of his well he was getting chemo and step in
- 5:31Speaker 3: for Kate at home while she was getting chemo. So
- 5:34Speaker 3: he went through a lot, went through hell frankly too
- 5:36Speaker 3: over the last couple of years.
- 5:37Speaker 1: I want listeners, I want listeners to understand is that
- 5:41Speaker 1: you did not write this story to bash the Royal family.
- 5:43Speaker 1: They need to get that national inquirer vibe out of them,
- 5:45Speaker 1: and they need to understand that this is an embrace story.
- 5:48Speaker 1: This is something that we're all going to really put
- 5:51Speaker 1: inside our heart and grow with it. I mean, and
- 5:53Speaker 1: for you to even do that in this day and
- 5:55Speaker 1: age of clickbait, God, dang dude, I'm so proud of
- 5:58Speaker 1: you for doing this.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Well, thank you.
- 6:00Speaker 3: I mean, I look, it's not I hey, I'm a
- 6:03Speaker 3: warts and all biographer. That's what they used to call is,
- 6:05Speaker 3: you know, if I find I've written some about some
- 6:09Speaker 3: people that had you know, not such had less to
- 6:13Speaker 3: you know, they had a lot of secrets that they.
- 6:16Speaker 2: Had I had to expose.
- 6:18Speaker 3: But in this particular case, it was a joy to
- 6:20Speaker 3: write the book because it's a very positive book about
- 6:22Speaker 3: a positive person. And she's you know, she's going to
- 6:26Speaker 3: not only be the first commoner Queen of England, but
- 6:30Speaker 3: she's going to be the first working class queen. I mean,
- 6:32Speaker 3: she's a descendant of coal miners from the north of England.
- 6:34Speaker 3: Her mother grew up in public housing, you know, she
- 6:39Speaker 3: had her mom was a flight attendant, you know, and
- 6:43Speaker 3: she did wasn't born into this role, but just kind
- 6:46Speaker 3: of magically came on the scene and made it happen.
- 6:50Speaker 2: And for ten years, don't forget, they would not commit.
- 6:53Speaker 2: She was weighty Haiti right, Yeah, she had she had
- 6:56Speaker 2: to make it happen.
- 6:57Speaker 3: And people don't give her enough credit for being so
- 7:00Speaker 3: shrewd and smart, and I mean shrewd in a good way,
- 7:04Speaker 3: you know, to navigate this because she loved this guy,
- 7:08Speaker 3: and on top of everything else, if you're gonna love somebody,
- 7:10Speaker 3: it might as well be the you know, the future king.
- 7:14Speaker 2: You can't follow her for that, and she made it happen.
- 7:17Speaker 1: We'll see a lot of people inside my heart. I
- 7:21Speaker 1: remember writing in my journals, but because I always write
- 7:24Speaker 1: about the royal family in my journals because I just
- 7:26Speaker 1: believe that they are the inspiration. And one of the
- 7:28Speaker 1: things that I put in there was is that I
- 7:30Speaker 1: love that she waited because so many people are jumping
- 7:33Speaker 1: into their relationships and once again here comes Kate. She's
- 7:36Speaker 1: sharing a message that I'm sure she's not really going, Hey,
- 7:39Speaker 1: I'm gonna push this one forward, but you can feel
- 7:42Speaker 1: she waited. She waited for her man to me inside
- 7:45Speaker 1: my heart. They became friends first, then they got married.
- 7:48Speaker 1: That relationship will last forever. They were friends first, and
- 7:51Speaker 1: will remain friends forever.
- 7:53Speaker 3: Right, And actually I was in London when in two
- 7:57Speaker 3: thousand and seven, you remember when they broke up up,
- 8:00Speaker 3: and I, once again that was another one of those moments,
- 8:03Speaker 3: you know.
- 8:04Speaker 2: And and behind the scenes, the reason that they broke.
- 8:06Speaker 3: Up Camilla convinced Charles the pressure, you know, to go
- 8:11Speaker 3: to William and say, hey, if you're not make up
- 8:13Speaker 3: your mind, if you're not going to ask her to marry,
- 8:15Speaker 3: marry you cut her off. And unfortunately William was still
- 8:19Speaker 3: kind of you know, wobbly there, and he.
- 8:22Speaker 2: Called her up on a cell I described this.
- 8:24Speaker 3: She's at work at a retail company called Jigsaw in
- 8:26Speaker 3: London and he calls her up on a cell phone
- 8:30Speaker 3: and her co workers can hear her saying, you know,
- 8:32Speaker 3: sobbing and saying what are you doing?
- 8:34Speaker 2: What are you doing?
- 8:35Speaker 3: And that breakup lasted six weeks. I mean he came
- 8:38Speaker 3: crawling back, you know. And I describe how Kate kind
- 8:41Speaker 3: of maneuvered that really shrewdly. But you know, yeah, they've
- 8:45Speaker 3: always been friends. They've been for instance, since you know,
- 8:48Speaker 3: they were a freshmen that actually they lived started living
- 8:51Speaker 3: together as in their second year at St.
- 8:54Speaker 2: Andrews University in Scotland.
- 8:56Speaker 3: So indeed they had the rock solid foundation for a
- 9:00Speaker 3: great marriage, which is so unusual in the royal family.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Ooh, please do not move. There's more with Christopher Anderson
- 9:07Speaker 1: coming up next. The name of the book, Kate, The Courage,
- 9:13Speaker 1: Grace and the power of the woman who will be Queen.
- 9:16Speaker 1: We are back with journalist Christopher Anderson. I am a
- 9:21Speaker 1: fanatic on book covers. I know we're not supposed to
- 9:23Speaker 1: judge a book by its cover, but by god, dude,
- 9:25Speaker 1: this is poster. This is the kind of stuff that
- 9:27Speaker 1: I would put inside a beautiful frame and put it
- 9:30Speaker 1: because the coloring itself is unbelievable. I'm from Montana. We
- 9:35Speaker 1: call it lilac. You may call it lilac, but man,
- 9:38Speaker 1: the color is positive. But there's got to be something
- 9:42Speaker 1: spiritual or something behind it. What was the reason why
- 9:45Speaker 1: you went with these colors?
- 9:46Speaker 3: Well, purple, I mean, first of all, I mean sorry,
- 9:49Speaker 3: it's royal. That is the color of royalty, and she's
- 9:53Speaker 3: wearing it. That's what that's that signifies royalty in you know,
- 9:57Speaker 3: among the Brits. And and then you're and I think,
- 10:01Speaker 3: I don't. I have never seen a bad picture of her,
- 10:05Speaker 3: and I believe I have gone through thousands of times,
- 10:08Speaker 3: and inside the book, by the way, there's some there's
- 10:11Speaker 3: some wonderful family. Well, first of all, our childhood pictures.
- 10:14Speaker 3: One of the things I uncovered that's completely out of
- 10:17Speaker 3: this worldline.
- 10:18Speaker 2: I had no idea about it.
- 10:18Speaker 3: But you know, some of her first words were Arabic
- 10:22Speaker 3: because she and her family moved when she was a
- 10:25Speaker 3: little girl. So from the age from two to five,
- 10:29Speaker 3: they lived in Jordan because the family was relocated. Their
- 10:32Speaker 3: father worked for British Airways, and she used to read.
- 10:36Speaker 3: She was learning Arabic phrases from reciting words in the Koran,
- 10:41Speaker 3: you know, And so that was a tidbit that I
- 10:44Speaker 3: was unaware of that she does now know still remembers
- 10:47Speaker 3: some of these Arabic phrases from her early childhood. So
- 10:50Speaker 3: she's had a pretty interesting life.
- 10:53Speaker 1: And don't you think it's interesting though that a lot
- 10:55Speaker 1: of us did not know this about her family, Because
- 10:57Speaker 1: once I learned inside your book about her mother being
- 11:00Speaker 1: a flight attendant, that in my heart I literally said, no,
- 11:04Speaker 1: wonder she's peaceful with people. When I go out there
- 11:07Speaker 1: and see her where she's shaking hands and greeting people,
- 11:10Speaker 1: and you can see it in her eyes, dude, that
- 11:12Speaker 1: she's genuine with it right.
- 11:15Speaker 3: Well, you know one of her friends, a guy named
- 11:17Speaker 3: Jules Knight, who's a friend of theirs for years, but
- 11:20Speaker 3: he said that there's a kind of a serenity about
- 11:22Speaker 3: her and a calm, kind of calm and the most
- 11:25Speaker 3: important thing about her is that she's a great listener.
- 11:28Speaker 3: So when she's out there working the rope line, you know,
- 11:30Speaker 3: Princess Anne and all those people who get credit for
- 11:33Speaker 3: doing all these engagements, they don't connect with the.
- 11:36Speaker 2: People the same way.
- 11:37Speaker 3: I mean, she gets down talks to a five year
- 11:39Speaker 3: old you know, Kate, well, you know, get down there
- 11:41Speaker 3: and really listen to what the little five year old
- 11:44Speaker 3: girl is saying and respond to it, or an elderly
- 11:46Speaker 3: gentleman in a wheelchair or whatever.
- 11:48Speaker 2: She makes that.
- 11:49Speaker 3: Kind of human connection that Diana did. We got to
- 11:53Speaker 3: give credit to Diana because she's the first member of
- 11:55Speaker 3: the royal family who ever touched.
- 11:58Speaker 2: People at a hospital, you know, the Queen Elizabeth.
- 12:00Speaker 3: Everybody loved her, but she didn't touch you know people,
- 12:04Speaker 3: I mean physically physically get.
- 12:06Speaker 2: In there in the way that Diana did.
- 12:08Speaker 3: But Kate's taking it to another level, because you know,
- 12:12Speaker 3: she is somebody with a husband who supports her and
- 12:15Speaker 3: loves her, and she has that kind of grounding. Unfortunately,
- 12:19Speaker 3: Diana was not allowed to have.
- 12:22Speaker 1: What I love about your book is it's almost like
- 12:25Speaker 1: you're saying it's okay to have the feelings that you
- 12:27Speaker 1: had about Princess Diana in the way of going, I'm
- 12:30Speaker 1: looking for the one that's going to replace her. But
- 12:32Speaker 1: you don't make me feel guilty that when when I
- 12:34Speaker 1: knew in my heart that Kate was the one that
- 12:36Speaker 1: I was looking for that void in my life, and
- 12:39Speaker 1: and that Kate has filled that void and now it's
- 12:41Speaker 1: exciting to see this family growing forward again. I can't
- 12:44Speaker 1: be the only one that was looking for that void.
- 12:47Speaker 2: Oh well, let's just imagine if Kay wasn't around.
- 12:50Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I think Charles and Camilla, they
- 12:54Speaker 3: got a lot of praise when they came to the
- 12:56Speaker 3: United States recently, and that's fine. They still look like
- 13:00Speaker 3: they'd rather be in the nineteenth century.
- 13:02Speaker 2: You know, not the twenty first.
- 13:05Speaker 3: And you can see with Kate that you have a
- 13:07Speaker 3: genuinely contemporary person. Hey, I'm the same age as Charles, Okay,
- 13:12Speaker 3: and I think did I grow up. I grew up
- 13:14Speaker 3: with the rolling Stones and the Beatles. I don't get
- 13:16Speaker 3: the sense you ever heard them, you know. It seems
- 13:20Speaker 3: like he would rather listen to a string quartet. Yeah,
- 13:23Speaker 3: it's not aware, and that's fine. But so with Kate,
- 13:26Speaker 3: you get the same sense of a contemporary modern person,
- 13:30Speaker 3: you know, who is going forward. She's gonna propel the
- 13:34Speaker 3: monarchy forward because she's going to be the wife of
- 13:36Speaker 3: the king and the mother of the king, and there
- 13:39Speaker 3: hasn't been the person in that position in the royal
- 13:42Speaker 3: family in a long time.
- 13:43Speaker 1: God, you know, but you you generate so much exciting,
- 13:46Speaker 1: exciting things here, Christopher, in the way it's like, we
- 13:49Speaker 1: know she's going to become queen, but being in this
- 13:51Speaker 1: world that we're in right now, we want it now.
- 13:54Speaker 1: But it's like, no, be patient, learn the story first.
- 13:58Speaker 1: And when she does become queen, you were there, Christopher right.
- 14:04Speaker 3: Well, you know, and by the way, she has a
- 14:05Speaker 3: sub she's far and away the most popular royal was
- 14:08Speaker 3: She and William are the kind of neck and neck.
- 14:10Speaker 2: Seventy four percent approval rating.
- 14:12Speaker 3: Wow, any American politician would go, you know, would kill
- 14:16Speaker 3: for that. Frankly, Yeah, So she's going to be shaping
- 14:20Speaker 3: history and she's gonna be around a long time, thank God,
- 14:24Speaker 3: because this was a brush with mortality that she just
- 14:27Speaker 3: had but handled beautifully.
- 14:28Speaker 2: I think, what is.
- 14:29Speaker 1: It like for you to travel the world or talk
- 14:32Speaker 1: to people around the world, because it seems like that
- 14:34Speaker 1: every region has their own interpretation of William and Kate
- 14:38Speaker 1: and being Americans, you know, we're just going to automatically
- 14:40Speaker 1: fall in love. We just love these love stories. And
- 14:43Speaker 1: I just want to know what the rest of the
- 14:45Speaker 1: world is saying too. Are we just sick puppies over
- 14:47Speaker 1: here with sad eyes going, oh my god, I love
- 14:49Speaker 1: these guys so much, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme No.
- 14:53Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, well, I would say ironically
- 14:57Speaker 3: we're more royal subsessed conceive it than the British. But
- 15:01Speaker 3: outside of England, in Europe and Asia, when you say
- 15:05Speaker 3: the king, you say the Queen, you say even just Kate,
- 15:09Speaker 3: the same way you would have said Diana.
- 15:11Speaker 2: People are obsessed with the royal family and not its
- 15:15Speaker 2: very it's fairy tale stuff.
- 15:16Speaker 3: It's it's and at the same time, you've got all
- 15:19Speaker 3: the really hardcore drama that you know it's it's a
- 15:23Speaker 3: it's a melodrama, it's a soap opera. It keeps going on.
- 15:27Speaker 2: But in Kate's case, it's a Cinderella story.
- 15:30Speaker 3: She's really the first one to come out of nowhere,
- 15:33Speaker 3: you know, to be in this position, and it's all
- 15:36Speaker 3: because of her personality and and she's also at this
- 15:40Speaker 3: kind I mean, she's a big style icon. We just
- 15:42Speaker 3: seen the met Ball. We just saw the met Ball
- 15:44Speaker 3: in the you.
- 15:45Speaker 2: Know, she is she's You could take all those people at.
- 15:48Speaker 3: The met Ball and roll them in the one big
- 15:49Speaker 3: ball and they wouldn't have the influence that she has
- 15:52Speaker 3: on women's clothing and style and fashion. And she can
- 15:55Speaker 3: do it by renting address for one hundred bucks on
- 15:59Speaker 3: the internet, you know, and show up and just blow
- 16:01Speaker 3: everybody away. And she does that kind of thing all
- 16:03Speaker 3: the time because it's all this sustainability and she just
- 16:06Speaker 3: kind of walks the walk. She knows, you know, she's
- 16:08Speaker 3: she's she is a great example and she does it
- 16:12Speaker 3: without making, you know, ramming it down people's throats.
- 16:15Speaker 2: But she does it with the right thing at the
- 16:16Speaker 2: right time.
- 16:17Speaker 1: Well, she does. She reminds me so much of the
- 16:19Speaker 1: person that when all the cameras are gone, and all
- 16:21Speaker 1: the hoopla of the British throne are just to the
- 16:24Speaker 1: side where she gets to be yourself. She tells me
- 16:26Speaker 1: inside my heart that she's in control of the remote
- 16:29Speaker 1: and that if William wants to binge watch something, it's
- 16:31Speaker 1: got to go through Kate first. And that's the kind
- 16:34Speaker 1: of Kate I want, Kate that is just so danged
- 16:37Speaker 1: down to earth right right.
- 16:39Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, we know they asked about
- 16:41Speaker 3: the he had a beard for a while, and they said,
- 16:44Speaker 3: what does she think of it?
- 16:45Speaker 2: And he said, yeah, yeah, and she said, and he's
- 16:47Speaker 2: and she said.
- 16:49Speaker 3: Their friends said, well, you know, if they asked what
- 16:51Speaker 3: Kate thought of it, and they said, well, if she
- 16:53Speaker 3: didn't like it, he wouldn't have it.
- 16:55Speaker 2: You know, yes, you're absolutely right. She has to approve.
- 16:59Speaker 2: She's the one in the in the driver's seat. I
- 17:01Speaker 2: think they agree.
- 17:02Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about everything
- 17:05Speaker 1: you're doing? You can't get this close to a story
- 17:08Speaker 1: and not have even more that you're going to share eventually.
- 17:12Speaker 3: But right now it's the book, and it's available, as
- 17:15Speaker 3: they like to say, wherever books are sold.
- 17:17Speaker 2: But Amazon's a good start.
- 17:21Speaker 3: And again, I enjoyed this book so much, and having
- 17:25Speaker 3: written about the royal family and still writing about them
- 17:28Speaker 3: for publications and whatnot.
- 17:31Speaker 2: They are for a reporter like me. It's the gift
- 17:33Speaker 2: that keeps on giving.
- 17:35Speaker 1: You know, she is a place of peace, and you
- 17:38Speaker 1: you allow that piece to come forward inside these pages.
- 17:41Speaker 1: You have done something here that's going to change people
- 17:43Speaker 1: on this side of those pages.
- 17:45Speaker 2: I hope so, I hope so well.
- 17:47Speaker 1: Please come back to this show anytime in the future.
- 17:49Speaker 1: The door is always going to be open for you.
- 17:52Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. I really appreciate it.
- 17:54Speaker 1: Well, you'd be brilliant today.
- 17:56Speaker 2: Okay, I'll try you too.
- 17:59Speaker 1: Thank you.