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211: Raccoons Sound Off! Kody on Steroids, Meri Being a Snitch and David's Real Motivation · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 4: This is Tanya calling from a raccoon dumpster here in Houston,
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  Speaker 4: about the absolute dumpster fire that is Sister Wives this season.
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  Speaker 4: I'm over it. I'm tired of it. Christine and David,
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  Speaker 4: I'm happy for them. I do think they'll go the distance.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, we.
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  Speaker 4: Already saw the wedding. We don't need we don't need
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  Speaker 4: to see the rest move on. Robin and Cody piss
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  Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to get their comeupance. I
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  Speaker 4: be until maybe five years from now when the show's
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  Speaker 4: over and we'll just see it in a tabloid. But
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  Speaker 4: I want to speak on Janelle and what you ladies
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  Speaker 4: think about it. Like her talking about she had the
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  Speaker 4: finances were her responsibility as far as seeing what was
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  Speaker 4: going in and out. So you're telling me that she
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  Speaker 4: saw all of the art being bought and everything, And
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  Speaker 4: this makes me lose a little respect for Janelle. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think she's as savvy as we all thought she was.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe in polygamy world she is, but in the real
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  Speaker 4: world she was kind of dumb.
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  Speaker 1: You're dumb. She was kind of dumb.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, oh, I think she maybe sent another one.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I loved where she was going with that too.
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  Speaker 1: Let's keep on raccoon.
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  Speaker 4: Tanya here again from Houston. I got cut off. I
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  Speaker 4: just can't. Ninety seconds isn't enough for the foolishness that
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  Speaker 4: is this show. The other thing I wanted to say,
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  Speaker 4: I think with Christine always comparing David to Cody, I
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  Speaker 4: think that's the producers. Do I think that Christine has
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  Speaker 4: gotten over Cody and everything he did to her and
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  Speaker 4: is in a healthy relationship with David. No, I do not,
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  Speaker 4: But I do think that it's the producers. I think
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  Speaker 4: the producers ask her things and she starts to say
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  Speaker 4: things about David and how wonderful he is and blah
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  Speaker 4: blah blah, and it's just not controversial enough for them,
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  Speaker 4: and so then they're like, well, did Cody do that?
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  Speaker 4: And then she's like, no, Cody, blah blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 4: I think the producers are making her compare Whenever she
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  Speaker 4: starts talking about David, they throw in, well did Cody
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  Speaker 4: do that? And then it looks like she is not
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  Speaker 4: over Cody because she's always comparing him. Does she do
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  Speaker 4: it on her own a little bit? I think so,
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  Speaker 4: because yeah, she does like to dig get Cody, but
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  Speaker 4: I don't think she is constantly comparing Cody to David.
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  Speaker 4: I think the producers are encouraging that foolishness, and like
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  Speaker 4: y'all said, I don't care about that. I would like
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  Speaker 4: to see Cody react to his children crying and the
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  Speaker 4: foolishness that he has left in their life, Like when
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  Speaker 4: Isabelle was crying, that was absolutely heartbreaking, and why can't
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  Speaker 4: we get Cody responding to that, Like they do not
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  Speaker 4: hold him to any kind of accountability none. Anyway, this
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  Speaker 4: week is probably going to be another shit show. Can't
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  Speaker 4: wait to hear you.
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  Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah, lots of good points there, what'd you think?
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  Speaker 3: I totally agree that Janelle was totally dumb. Yeah, with
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  Speaker 3: the finances. I'm like, if you were seeing all of
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  Speaker 3: this shit, why didn't you speak up? Why didn't you
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  Speaker 3: do anything about it? Like you're a fucking Taurus, Like
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  Speaker 3: use your bull, like speak up and call it out.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, Janelle said a couple episodes ago she
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  Speaker 3: wasn't actually in control of the money. She was just
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  Speaker 3: the bookkeeper and she would, you know, drink a whole
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  Speaker 3: bottle of wine while she tallied everything up and send
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  Speaker 3: it to the accountant. So maybe she was just in denial,
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  Speaker 3: but it's like, still, you were seeing this all happen,
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  Speaker 3: and you are directly affected by this, and arguably you're
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  Speaker 3: the one with the shittiest end of the stick here,
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  Speaker 3: like you have no assets, you have no money, Like
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  Speaker 3: that sucks. You could have done something about it much sooner.
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  Speaker 3: So that was dumb.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with that, and let me just comment on that.
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  Speaker 1: I think though, that it's not just dumbness. And I
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  Speaker 1: also think that we have to include Mary here because
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  Speaker 1: at least with Mary, she would be invited into the McMansion,
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  Speaker 1: so she had an opportunity to really see what was
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  Speaker 1: going on. She saw the Amethys crystal wings, she saw
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  Speaker 1: the artwork, she saw the appointments, she saw that Dickenziean village.
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  Speaker 1: But she saw everything, and she's savvy. She is a
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  Speaker 1: good business woman, as she said in this last episode,
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  Speaker 1: like she has an eye for this kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: So she would have clocked all of it. And I
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  Speaker 1: think Janelle definitely clocked all of it. It's not like
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  Speaker 1: she was just oblivious and didn't understand where this money
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  Speaker 1: was going. I think Janelle knew exactly what was happening.
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  Speaker 1: And I think all of this really speaks to the
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  Speaker 1: pervasive disempowerment of the women who feel that they can't
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  Speaker 1: say anything and that they have to always subject themselves
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  Speaker 1: to the purview of the man. At the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day, Cody gets the final say yep. And so
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  Speaker 1: even though Janelle likes to tell us that she didn't
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  Speaker 1: sign up for the patriarchy, she actually did, oh for sure,
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  Speaker 1: and she was complicit in the reign of the patriarchy,
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  Speaker 1: and she knew full well was going on. And she's
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  Speaker 1: just tipping her hand a little bit when she says
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  Speaker 1: stuff like, well, I saw where the money went, we
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  Speaker 1: didn't need to pay all that.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: She's just tipping her scent her hand just a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I think she could say a whole lot more. But
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  Speaker 1: more importantly, she could have done a whole lot more,
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  Speaker 1: and so could have Mary. I don't blame Christine for this,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't think she was invited over.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she was aware of how much it was.
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  Speaker 3: She was just mad of all the time Cody was.
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  Speaker 1: She was more jealous and maybe covetous of the time
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  Speaker 1: and the negligence. She was upset about that, but she
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  Speaker 1: probably knew also, which is why she insisted that only
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  Speaker 1: her name was on her house. She was thinking, honey, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she been knowing. These women are dumb. Yeah, but at
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  Speaker 1: the same time they're not that dumb.
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  Speaker 3: No, And Cody is also an abusive piece of shit,
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  Speaker 3: and he was totally manipulating all of these women into
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  Speaker 3: agreeing to all of the shit. Yes, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: manipulating them in the sense of like, no, like I
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  Speaker 3: don't favor Robin. No, we're not mishandling the funds, like
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  Speaker 3: everybody's getting an equal share. And now we're seeing with
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  Speaker 3: the Coyote past stuff being paid off and all that,
• 10:13
  Speaker 3: like we're seeing it wasn't ever equal, right, So yeah,
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: good points there, And then she was talking about Christine.
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  Speaker 1: And Christine and the fact that we were sort of
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: bringing up how Christine constantly referring back to Cody was
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: a sign of her trauma and like also maybe evidence
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  Speaker 1: that she's still kind of hung up on him. And
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: she's saying she thinks it's more the producers, and we
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: had actually we just recorded the recap a little while ago,
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  Speaker 1: and we actually said to ourselves it is probably the
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  Speaker 1: producers asking her to compare her experience, for example, wedding
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  Speaker 1: dress shopping, like what happened in her marriage to Cody.
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  Speaker 1: She would not have necessarily brought it up on her own.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think it's a mix. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think the producers are trying to get her to
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  Speaker 1: comment on that, but I also think she's feeling some
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  Speaker 1: of that herself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. An Tania did also mention that she thinks that
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  Speaker 3: Cody or Christine and David will be in it for
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: the long haul, which I mean, I can see it
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  Speaker 3: and I think so too. They're older, like they know
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: what they want, and I mean, like who wants to
• 11:12
  Speaker 3: get divorced again? Like right, Like, so, yeah, I think
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  Speaker 3: they're in it for the long haul, and I agree
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  Speaker 3: with all your points.
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: Tanya, she's a smart raccoon.
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you, she's a very smart raccoon.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: He's Houston raccoons. Yep, they're lit. Oh yeah, liddy, lack
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  Speaker 1: a titty.
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: Just like you're right now, he sits.
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: Next one.
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: Next one is from Isla or Ala. Sorry if I'm
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: mispronouncing that.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, ladies, Hi, this is Ala Raccoon. I'm calling from
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  Speaker 5: the US Virgin Islands. I just want to say, first
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  Speaker 5: of all, I love you guys. Just finished watching the
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  Speaker 5: episode this week, and I cannot with Cody crying to marry.
• 11:50
  Speaker 5: That whole thing is he's just crying because of his pride.
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  Speaker 5: He even though he says he's not in love with
• 11:57
  Speaker 5: these women, he can't imagine how they're not in love
• 12:00
  Speaker 5: with him. And I think that's why he's upset. It's
• 12:04
  Speaker 5: not anything to do with realizing that he failed. But
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you see this again with him going on
• 12:10
  Speaker 5: and on about not being included at Savannah's graduation party.
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  Speaker 5: But yet did he even call her to say, you know, congratulations,
• 12:18
  Speaker 5: happy graduation, like I'm proud of you. Probably not. And
• 12:24
  Speaker 5: I've also just wanted to say, oh, we noticed that
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  Speaker 5: some of these new interviews with Mary look like they're
• 12:30
  Speaker 5: more recent.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: So that's, you know, maybe good sign.
• 12:33
  Speaker 5: But all of the OG wives have aged so beautifully,
• 12:37
  Speaker 5: whereas Robin I feel like it's the opposite. I feel
• 12:40
  Speaker 5: like maybe her insids are coming to the surface because
• 12:42
  Speaker 5: she's just getting less attractive as she ages. And I
• 12:46
  Speaker 5: hate to comment on someone's looks, but during the scene
• 12:49
  Speaker 5: with Mary and her and Cody, when they were sitting
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: at the table talking about how the property had been divided,
• 12:55
  Speaker 5: and it went to her you know self interview, and
• 12:58
  Speaker 5: she was just basically being like, oh, I have no idea.
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  Speaker 5: Cody just came home and said told us this is
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  Speaker 5: how it was, and it's like you could tell she
• 13:04
  Speaker 5: was lying. And I just I really hope that Mary
• 13:08
  Speaker 5: and Janelle, you know, get lawyers and get what they deserve,
• 13:11
  Speaker 5: because those two are definitely trying to pull one over
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  Speaker 5: on them.
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  Speaker 3: Agreed, And I will talk about Robin's looks. I know
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: is not aging well. I mean, she's younger than all
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: of the other wives, and she looks old. Sorry, wow,
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: Agist, look I mean, and may say something funky on
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: the WhatsApp, you send me a little Grandma emoji so rude, dude,
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: so aged, but like, I mean, yeah, and we talk
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: about how the body keeps the score, and we talk
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: about how the innards they rise to the surface. Yeah,
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: and they come out your poores and they change the
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: landscape of your physicality yep. And so with Robin you
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: can kind of I mean, everything is just you pushed out.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: That is a quote from the Great Neville and so
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: like what's being pushed out with Robin? I mean we're
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: just seeing kind of the quality of the type of
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  Speaker 1: person that she is. I want to talk about, though,
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: the sobbing of Cody, because I didn't watch episode twelve
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  Speaker 1: last week. I watched it today and I was like
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: so unhappy to start that episode with a continuation of
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: Cody's sobbing and performing and tap dancing for his life
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: yep on tap Dancing with the Brocass Stars. And I
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  Speaker 1: was just like, oh my god, stop, nobody believes you.
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  Speaker 1: But I do think that while he isn't acknowledging his failure,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: he is sensing his loss.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: It's like with a toddler, you put him in time
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: out and they sit there and they cry, and they're
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: crying because they've lost something, They've lost the ability to
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: be in the middle of the living room and make
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: your life a living out.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So they're not doing what they want to do
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: and having all the things they want to have, and
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: now they're being from that, and so that's a loss
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: that they're feeling and they're crying about it. I think
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: that's what's happening with Cody personally.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's a mix. Like I
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: think when AILA's saying that it's out of pride, I
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: think that that's partially true. I think it's pride from
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: his failure and like feeling like, man, I really kind
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: of fucked up, but I'm gonna cry about it.
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  Speaker 1: But he's still he's not acknowledging that consciously, right.
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  Speaker 3: Not at all. I think it's like I think that
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: you can suppress your emotions enough, but they will eventually
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  Speaker 3: bubble up, and they'll bubble up in some weird ways,
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  Speaker 3: like with Cody, he will deflect and he'll blame everybody else,
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  Speaker 3: but like, deep down, like you can't avoid the magnitude
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: of your failures. You can't avoid the fact that you
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: broke up your entire family and it's all on your shoulders.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: And you also can't avoid the reality that everybody in
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: the fucking world hates your guts and thinks you and
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: your wife are the worst people imaginable. So like, you
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: can sit here and go to your gun shows, you
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: can buy your two point one million dollar meon shit,
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: but you can't. You can't escape that reality. So I
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: think in that moment with Mary, like he's feeling a
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: sense of pride, like he lost a lot, like he
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: did fail. He's not going to acknowledge that. He's never
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: going to admit that he's a failure ever. But I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I also think he's feeling a bit of a loss,
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  Speaker 3: like it's Mary, the first wife he ever had. He
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: grew up with this woman, He's been thirty three years
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  Speaker 3: with her, So I think it's a mix. But also
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Cody's a piece of shit and I hate him.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't care what he's feeling, like,
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  Speaker 1: I really don't. He's a terrible person. Astroy, this entire family,
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  Speaker 1: and you hurt children and women's exactly. I don't give
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: up fu.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Shit, friede you harder for reals. So thank you Aila
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: from the US Virgin Island so exotic it.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Is I mean, I went to Saint John's wins. Is
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: that the US Virgin I don't fucking know. You're so
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: bad at Is that the British for the British ones American?
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: And we're so ariologies. But that's exotic and we're envious.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: That's very cool, all right. Next one we have is
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: from Chris Hi.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: This is Chris. I'm fairly new to the dumpster and
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: I'm loving Swimming in the Trash. Love your podcast and
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: opinions about Sister Wives. I know we probably don't want
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: to talk about Christine and David anymore, but I wanted
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: to get your opinion on what David's motivation is to
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: get married so fast. I think we all understand Christine's motivation,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: but David could have told her to slow it down
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: and he didn't, So I wanted to get your thoughts
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: on why he's moving so fast. Thanks, ladies, Oh, such
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: a good question.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to ask the people watching on
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: YouTube to drop in the comments what you think David's
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: motivation is. And also, if you're on Instagram you want
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: to DM beat, just let us know because that's such
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: a good question. Do you want to answer first? I? No,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: you can no, I'd like you too, because I'm gonna
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: chew on it a little bit.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I think it's probably driven by the Utah culture. Like
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I've heard this from Ethel and everybody else that lives
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: in Utah, and like we've seen comments and read it
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: and everything that like this is par for the course
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: with Utah. I mean even people are like commenting about
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: how it wasn't fast enough, like they could have gotten
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: married a lot quicker than what they did. But I
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, I think it's just culture. He's
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: old too, you know, it's like why waste time, Like
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: we might as well get married so we're no longer
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: living in sin, fucking and sucking in our house, Like
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: let's you know, you so bad?
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: We're so fucking dirty.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I just I think it's probably Utah culture,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: and you're probably right.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna put my tinfoil hat right on
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: my big mail in head with my big bouffon, and
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I'm going to just harken back. I'm gonna take us
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: on a journey back to the wedding special, when David's
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: daughter was talking about knowing who Christine was and encouraging
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: her father to go out on a date with Christine,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: and then that's when David initiated contact or responded to
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Christine or whatever, and then things started to happen. And
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: that always kind of just stuck in my crawl a
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: little bit. I thought that was weird, as if at
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: least the daughter really wanted to pursue being in the
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: limelight of the Sister Wives zeitgeist, and would it be
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: so much of a leap to assume that if the
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: daughter felt that way, maybe David did as well. So
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: that's one thing that it could be if it were
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: the worst thing possible, right which, but when I see
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: David on screen, I'm not really getting that from him,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: like clout goblin vibe. No, yeah, I'm not getting clout
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: goblin vibes. I get that from Michelty, but I really
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: don't get that from David. And So if I'm going
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: to listen to my very profound and one accurate intuition,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say that David lost his first wife
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: to unliving herself. I think they had a bit of
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: a problematic relationship, which was probably very hard for her
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: and very hard for him. He spent a few years
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: trying to date rando women, and it was weird, as
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: we all know on dating apps, it gets weird out there.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: And he was lonely for like twelve years. For twelve years,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: he was lonely. Yeah, and here comes this vibrant, funny,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: effervescent woman with like all this energy and life and life,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: and he was kind of in a place where he's
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: winding down, as you like to say, sundowning when you're
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: criticizing me, he's sundowning. That's wrong.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: That is what she does.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: She's so terrible to me.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: She makes that joke too.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: No, but he was. He's not sundowning off. Yeah, no,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but he's winding down. Okay, golden years of
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: his life, right, And as we age, we don't necessarily
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: want to do that. Like I bet guys who are
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: sixty don't want their dicks to not get hard. They
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: want their dicks to get hard. They want to have
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the life that these They want to feel fucking desired. Oh,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: they want to have good sex.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: And so here comes Christine. She's ready to fuck.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, she's so dready, she's.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Ready to buddy, she's ready to kiss. She wants to
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: be sensual, she wants to buy a house. She wants
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: to travel like life, life, energy, energy, And I think
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: David was just like so subdued, like in this prison
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: of like I don't know, unhappiness, and here comes this
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: ray of Sunshinese like he's grabbing onto it with both
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: hands and he's like, I will marry. I'm gonna put
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: a ring on it. Bit we are getting married right now.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I want you for the rest of my life because
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I want to feel something.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally in my life.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna go with.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: That's so beautiful, and thank you, Thank you so much.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: I think you're right.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate that.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: So thank you Aila for that very interesting question.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you. We love to have our mind stimulated, so
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: thank you.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah we do. And let us know in your comments
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: below if you think our opinions are bullshit or if
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: you have a different theory about that.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, all right.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: The next one we have is from Madison.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Him Alison, I.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: Just wanted to say how funny I thought it was
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: when Janelle brought up the fact that Cody is not
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: invited to family events whether he brings Robin or not,
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: and then they cut right to Cody complaining that he
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: won't leave Robin at home and she's not welcome at
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: these events, and that's why he doesn't go. Everyone has
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: been ranting about how Robin is the villain for years,
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: but I have the controversial opinion that she's actually not.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: When you listen to the conversations the women had with Cody,
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: their complaint was not that Robin was isolating his time.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: Their complaint was that Cody was choosing to spend all
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: his time with Robin. I don't think the women held
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: anything against Robin ninety percent of the time, but whenever
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: they complained to Cody that he was choosing to spend
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: his time monequally, Cody was the one who actually started
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: villainizing Robin. He can't handle the idea of anyone being
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: mad at him, so every time they said he was
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: in the wrong because he favored Robin, he would turn
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: it around and say the women and kids were blaming Robin,
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: rather than face the idea that he was just being
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: a horrible, plural husband and father. Then he would run
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: home to Robin and tell her everyone hated her. Do
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: I think she ever wanted a real relationship with them, No,
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: But I do think Robin is right when she says
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: nobody can control Cody. I don't think she controls him,
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: but I think Cody is madly in love with her,
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: so he just does whatever she wants. And that is
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: everyone's gripe with Cody. But every time somebody says something
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: about it, Cody turns it into, oh, you all just
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: hate Robin, and that's not actually how anyone feels.
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: Even Gabriel went up to Robin at the family wedding
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: that we don't speak about and hugged her. I believe
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: it's Cody's constant deflecting and villainizing of Robin that are
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: the real reasons the family is where it is today.
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: So it really tickled me when Janelle said in her
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: confessional this week that it doesn't matter whether he brings
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: Robin or not, he's on the house with ninety percent
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: of his family.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: That's actually really interesting to me because I could totally
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: see a reality where Cody is the master of all
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: of this, Like he's telling the three og wives that
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: it's all Robin right. Robin needs me for the kids,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Robin needs me to babysit, Sall and eric Ari or
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I need to be at Robin's house because she's got
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: the office for me or whatever. And so then the
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: og wives start hating Robin and resenting her because they
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: love Cody and they want to be with Cody, but
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: it's actually Robin who's controlling him. And then Cody goes
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: back to Robin and says, no, actually, all the og
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: wives and all my kids fucking hate your guts. They're
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: jealous of you because you're shy and pretty, and they
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: are jealous of our love that we have to hide.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: And actually everyone fucking hates you and has this vendetta
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: against you. So then that makes Robin isolate more. And
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Robin think, oh, well, okay, if y'all hate me, then
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna hate y'all. I'm gonna steal your money. Like
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: that's an interesting theory. I don't know if that's true,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: but it's got my brain tickled.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, I am team Robin's a goblin.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I am team Robin's the mastermind. Yeah.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I think Cody is dumb as a box of rocks.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: And I think when we have a Christmas chat going
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: on between all of the kids and Robin, but's her
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: big ass nose into it. Sorry, her big ass knows
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: into it. Yeah, And the kids start having reactions to Robin,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: and then she's like.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, forget it that nobody ever wants to hear from me.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: That's Robin. That's literally how she is. And the kids
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: calling her out. I think that is actually an authentic
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: reflection of how they feel about Robin. I don't think
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: anybody told them to feel that way. I don't think
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Cody tells the wives that, you know, Robin's this or that,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and the wives tell their kids that. I think the
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: kids have observed that firsthand the entire time, especially the
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: older ones like Logan, Maddie, Hunter, Garrison, and Gabe. And
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I trust their opinion of Robin, Yeah, more than I
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: would trust certainly Cody's and even Christine Robin and Mary
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and Janelle because they're still like producing themselves all of
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but can't you see Cody like going to Robin
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: all the time and talking shit about the rest of
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: the family and saying that, oh, they all hate you.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: They don't have a gripe with me because I'm the
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: perfect husband, but they all hate you and this is why.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: And then it develops some kind.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's Cody generated. I think it's Robin generated.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: And then maybe he feeds into it, and then maybe
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: he starts seeing ghosts where there are none, like when
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: she comes back to him after having that conversation with
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Janelle about buying the McMansion and please be careful, Janelle asked,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: because we need to buy on Coyote Pass or build
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: on Coty Pass. And then Robin goes to Cody and
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: then says, well, Janelle said this, and then Cody goes
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: to Janelle and reams her out for it, and then
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Cody comes back and says, yeah, Janelle has a problem
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: with it or whatever. I think at the end of
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the day, it's Robin at the top who's being the
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: puppet master with all of it, okay, And I honestly
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: think it's obvious when we're watching these talking heads and
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: she's like, oh, yeah, I have no idea, like why
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the names are on the plots of land. It was
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: just Cody and we just all listened to whatever he said. No, bitch,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: so easy to read. She's manipulating us. She's dumb, and
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: she doesn't know that we can see right through her.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: And so I don't think that's Cody. I think Cody's
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: dumber than her.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, I could, I could see both ways. I mean,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: like I've gone back and forth on this podcast, like,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: you know, having like some sympathy for Robin sometimes of like, well,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: maybe she is a victim in all of this, like
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: maybe she's so fucking stupid, But then she says stuff
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: like well, I just prioritized my money differently than the why.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I just know how to budget.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I just know how to budget. And so it's like,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: obviously she's got these bitchy, manipulative, toxic, fucking tendencies. But
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I could I could see both things happening.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: We're like Robin's puppet mastering her own goal, which is
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: probably just to be the favorite wife.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: And to have all money.
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: Money.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: It's money, it's all money.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: But you know, Cody's probably got his own agenda here
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: of deflecting constantly because he can never take any blame
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: or accountability. So I could see a world work he
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: is like putting the blame on Robin to the og wives,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: but then going back to Robin and being like I
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: don't know why they're blaming you. Sure, I don't know
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: why they're doing so it's just probably a mixture of
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: both totally. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, interesting speak, pipe thinking medicine.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Let us know in the comments below what you saying
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: what your series are. Next one we have is from Tatiana, Tatiana.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Hey, y'all, it's Tatiana from a dumpster here in Texas.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: I just wanted to say this last episode, Season nineteen,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: episode twelve, Mary, why are you cutting a check for
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: a fourth of a property that you're only a third
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: of a fourth on? And really, because Cody and Robert
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: are married, you are a third, you're a fourth of
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: a fourth. But she bopped on over to the mc
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: mansion with a whole check for a fourth of property
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: that her name isn't on, and Cody sure to take
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: it and put it inside of that little envelope like
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: thank you, ma'am. My other question is Cody's talking about,
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: you know, land with trees is probably worth more than
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: land without trees, But every episode Cody's cutting down trees,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: so I'm kind of thinking the land without trees is
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: worth more and he's trying to pull a fast one.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: What do you think?
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: I got my raccoon binoculars on and I'm looking over there,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: and it's looking shady.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Love it shady af Yeah, I mean it's hard for
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: me to reconcile this idea of Mary being this astute,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: savvy business woman right who makes all of this money,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: runs a B and B, and who has a head
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: for business with waltzing over to the mc mansion and
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: cutting a check for twenty five percent of Coyote Pass.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: It's like bad business. Yep, it's dumb finance. It's conducive
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: with what they've been doing the entire time. But like Mary,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: this you're already divorced from him, Like, uh huh, please
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: try and catch me waltzing over to my ex husband
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and cutting him a check for anything. Though, you take
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: away to court, bitch, Yeah, you take me to court, bitch,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Like I don't get it. And this, I think further
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: illustrates the fact that Mary is, if even subconsciously, just
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: holding onto some kind of a connection with Cody and
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: wanting to play Kate Cody and wanting to align with
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: him in some way. And we're gonna see how that
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: works out for her. Oh yeah, we're gonna see if
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: she's gonna have to end up getting an attorney, which
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: she says in episode thirteen that she will have to do.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, if she has to, she's gonna do it.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: But it's like, I don't know how to make those
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: things make sense. No, Yeah, how are you like making
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: all this money and you're good with business, but you're
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: it's it's got to be it's got to be the love.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: I guess it's gotta be the love. Well, and also
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: to talk shit about Janelle with Cody and Robin at
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: this sit down, like you could have just done a
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: wire like Janelle did from fucking North Carolina, Like you
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: don't have to be there to give him a personal check.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: It's absolutely ridiculous. Why are you paying off a quarter
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: of the land that.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: You don't even fucking s dumb?
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: It's super so stupid, And even like Reddit people have
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: posted the actual like land values and land ownership to
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: this day, and she still only owns a third of
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: a whole or like whatever it is, like she owns
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: like ten percent or something in the grand scheme of things,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: so she doesn't have any ownership in all of this.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: It's absolutely ridiculous. And to me, I'm just like, if
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: you are going to retain a lawyer, what can they
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: do with a scene like this, when you're like willingly
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: giving more money to this that you don't even own.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess maybe you can make a case
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: for the fact that like you're roped into this really
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: terrible like loan with all these plots of land and
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Christine left. It's like you kind of have to pay
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: off some of it so it doesn't end up on
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: your credit or I don't know, but it just seems
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: really fucking messy. And it was so stupid that she
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: had to go down to flag Staff just to get
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: one more look at Cody.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's probably they want to film content
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: and they want to have another episode for the show,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: and so that's why she's doing it. Maybe Frankly, it's
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: just absurd. Yeah, And I guess she's okay with losing money,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I guess, And she's just hoping at this point that
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: they're going to do right by her. Both Janelle and
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Mary are like, well, like, we'll see what happens. Hopefully
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: it works out to her benefit. Hopefully they have some integrity,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: but like if they don't, will pursue legal options. And
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: so I'm very curious because of the way that the
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: land is to this day in terms of ownership, very
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: curious about what happens, because Mary, if the land is
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: going to stay in ownership as it is now, then
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: you threw good money after bad and you frankly are
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: doom dum dumb.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: But I mean she did advocate for an appraisal, which
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: is a good idea because Cody is making his bullshit
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: claim like Tatiana said that, you know, he thinks that
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: the land with trees is more valuable, but then he's
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: also cutting down the trees, Like, what the fuck are
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: you doing? Doesn't make any He doesn't want the appraisal
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: because that drives up the amount of their share, huh.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: And that means that when they sell it, they're going
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: to get twenty five percent of an increased amount.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: So he would rather it just be a mystery. Yeah,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: just trust me, babe. Yeah, yeah, this is what you
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: get and just go away. It's fine.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Yep. And I do agree that he is trying to
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: pull a fast one on these women, and maybe that's
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: why Janelle's getting a lawyer and hopefully Mary gets a lawyer.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: And this is why polygamy is bad.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Yep. Moralthy story. And the next one we have is
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: from Bronwyn, who I think has called before.
• 33:31
  Speaker 8: Okay, though, my beautiful raccoon, this is Bronwin keeping things
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: weird over in Portland, Oregon. Okay, so two things. So
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: the first one is if you are being love bombed
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: so hard by a narcissist that even his friends are saying,
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: are you sure you want to break up?
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: That's pretty bad.
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: I've been with a narcissist before and that definitely trucks
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: So uh yeah, Cody, you say, by the way, I
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: did a whole rewatch and Cody definitely has told himself
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: a narcissist three different times that I've gotten up to
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: so far, so definitely true. The other one, and this
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: is definitely my opinion, not yours, So don't come for
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: them if you're going to come for someone. But it
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: really struck me that when they were in Vegas, Cody
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: was not being.
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: As bad as he's been in Flagstaff and it was
• 34:37
  Speaker 9: about that time that he got super, super angry, and
• 34:42
  Speaker 9: I'm thinking there's something else going on.
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: I'm thinking.
• 34:46
  Speaker 10: Maybe steroids. Maybe I've heard he's drinking, but there is
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: a difference. Just curious your thoughts.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Well, do you see his belly?
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: That is six pack abs.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: You mean that's like a boozebelly to me, Oh for sure.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: It comes from a long line of alcoholic starling. Yeah,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: and I've seen alcoholic behaviors and tendencies, and I'm just
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: saying he's an alcoholic, but I would not be a
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: bit surprised if he imbibes a bit too much. We
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: have talked at great length about our theory that he
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: is a low tee. Yeah, motherfucker, small bags, probably taking
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: some tea, and he might be taking some steroids. But
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: there was that like maybe season seventeen eighteen where he
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: was just so acutely misogynistic and toxic. It was so
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: red pilled and obvious to me.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: And pupils were different.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: It did seem very substance driven to me. All alleged.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Of course we had no idea, but like, I wouldn't
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: be a bit surprised to learn after the fact that
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: that's what was going on, starting in Vegas, but definitely
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: in Flagstaff.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Oh for sure. And I think it just heightened his
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: whole like nurse cistic injuries of his whole family turning
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: against him after COVID because how dare he go and
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: visit anybody else? Now? Dare he like care about the
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: rest of the family. He's just staying with Robert. He's like,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: why would anybody question me? Fuck them? So, I think, like,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: definitely substance issues, Definitely narcissistic injury. It's interesting that she
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: said that during the rewatches he was calling himself a narcissist.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I don't think we've gotten to those episodes yet.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think we're going to start
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: season six.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I think so.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't remember that. I feel like we
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: would have talked about that quite a lot, for sure. Yeah,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: self diagnosing. Maybe when he starts going to counseling and
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, he maybe self identifies as a narcissist.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: But that was interesting with Nate. Yeah, I mean when
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: he's crying and sobbing with Mary and then Nate asks
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: if he's sure, and then Cody says on the couch
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: like a typical narcissist, Well, he just doesn't get it.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: He doesn't know me, he doesn't.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Understand that the reason blah blah blah.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Did you think that the sobbing was love bombing her
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: or maybe it was love bomb us.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it was love bombing per se,
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: but just like you know, playing the victim and trying
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: to appeal to our humanity, just a manipulative tactic like
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: weaponizing your tears. I can totally see that. I think
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: he probably love bombed like the og Wives, like you know,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: in the earlier days and stuff like that a few
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: seasons ago before he turned into a vitriolic.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Alcohol on humanity.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think he especially with Janelle, I think
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: he was probably loved bombing her a lot because she
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: said he has a hook in her and that's how
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: she stayed for so long. Same thing with Mary, you know.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know. The whole scene with Nate
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: was weird. I kind of wonder if Nate was just
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: doing that for the cameras right, to try again to
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: try and appeal to Cody's humanity, because Nate was saying,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: was it last season or the season before? No, Cody's
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: actually a really good guy, right right. Wasn't he the
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: fan of a friend that I said?
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, fuck you Nate, yeah, and fuck you Cody. Yeah.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Thank you for your message, Broumwin, thank you all right.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Next one is from one thousand Pounds Raccoon.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, just like us Yeah, raccoons. They're just
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: like us. Yeah, raccoons.
• 38:08
  Speaker 11: I'm gonna do my best to get this rant to
• 38:10
  Speaker 11: fit into ninety seconds because I just watched this week's
• 38:13
  Speaker 11: episode and I am raging. Okay, every week I prepare
• 38:18
  Speaker 11: myself for the ways in which Robin and Cody will
• 38:20
  Speaker 11: piss me off. But this week there was a new
• 38:23
  Speaker 11: bitch in town, very brown, and her lame ass, whole ass,
• 38:29
  Speaker 11: bringing that valuable piece of information that Janelle shared with
• 38:33
  Speaker 11: her that she did not have to, And instead of
• 38:35
  Speaker 11: returning that gesture, Mary turns around and brings that piece
• 38:39
  Speaker 11: of information to Robin and Cody. I was screaming at
• 38:43
  Speaker 11: my TV. I kind of had to like pause and
• 38:45
  Speaker 11: take a moment to think about why someone would do
• 38:49
  Speaker 11: something like that, and I can only think of two things.
• 38:52
  Speaker 11: Either she does not believe it at all, and she's
• 38:55
  Speaker 11: she brought that to them her captors in some sort
• 38:58
  Speaker 11: of strange Stockholm dynamic, or a small part of her
• 39:03
  Speaker 11: does believe it, and she brought that to them looking
• 39:06
  Speaker 11: for reassurance that it's not true. And when she didn't
• 39:10
  Speaker 11: get that, that's when she started bringing up having the
• 39:13
  Speaker 11: property appraised. So where initially it pissed me off, and
• 39:17
  Speaker 11: it still does. I'm starting to slowly notice the small
• 39:21
  Speaker 11: ways in which Mary is pulling away from Robin and
• 39:24
  Speaker 11: Cody and starting to see things for the way they
• 39:27
  Speaker 11: really are. And thank god, because they do not deserve
• 39:30
  Speaker 11: her loyalty. I am saying it anyway, Thank you Raccoons.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Did you call in under an boy? She reminds me
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: of you? That was so funny.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious, so good. That is so interesting though. It's
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: got me ruminate in y because like, what if Mary
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: came into that meeting with Cody and Robin and she
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: was like, let me just drop this bomb and see
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: how they respect and so she's said yeah, So Janelle
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: was saying, you know, be careful this, this and that,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: and based on their reaction, then decided to push the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: idea of the appraisal, Like this is what I want
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: for Mary to have done. I want her to be
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: that savvy and like orchestrate a moment where she can
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: get some clarity. Unfortunately, I think Mary was ingratiating herself
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: to Cody and Robin. She was bringing her latest kill
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: back to the Lion Pride. Look, Papa, I've got some
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: interesting information for you. This is what Janelle said, which,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: by the way, is something I think she has done
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: many times before. Yeah, and it's one of the things
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: that I just can't stand about Mary, because she's not
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: a girl's girl. She's just not a girl's girl. In
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: moments where she could have supported Christine even a little
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: bit or Janelle, she just didn't do it. And even
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: when Janelle's coming over, not even with an olive branch,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: but like to do her ae it like, Mary, watch out,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: like you could lose a lot of money here, and
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I just want you to protect yourself. Even in that moment,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: she's thinking of ways to fuck Janelle. Oh yeah, Oh,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: let me take this kernel of information over to Cody
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: and Robin, the most despicable people known to Matt yep,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: and see if they'll like me more if I do so.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: So Unfortunately, as she calls this Stockholm syndrome, yep, I
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: think that's what it is.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Oh totally, yeah. I think she was totally groveling back
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: to Cody and Robin and trying to be like a
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: good ex wife and still be in as graces somewhat.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, even when he was moving her out, he
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: kept like throwing her bones and like, you're my favorite
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: ex wife and thanks for being so cool. Let me
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: hug you. Please don't sue me, Please don't sue me. Like,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: now we can be friends and we can have a
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: good relationship because all the other wives hate me. Like
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: she's totally doing this to get in as good graces,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: but it's not gonna fucking work, Mary, because you're so stupid.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: You're so fucking dumb. I don't know how many times
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: you have to be told or shown like Cody and
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Robin's motives here, Like, I don't know how many times
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: you have to get fucked over. You had your fucking
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: ring melted down in season one, bro, and yet you're
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: still in love with Cody.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: For some reason and has wanting to be allied with them,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: seriously wanting to demonstrate certain ways so that they understand
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: that you're with them. Yeah, like week as fuck, Oh
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: my lame shit, E've embarrassed for you.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: In episode thirteen, she's still talking to her friends and
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: being like there's a week clear. God, oh my god,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: it's so annoying.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Keep that inside the house. Don't let it get out
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: of the house into public, into the public square. It's
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: really pathetic.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: And then you, of all people, want to start worthy up.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know, this is what makes me. This is
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: what's so crazy makes me. This is why we're not
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: in this jumpster. Yes, it's so ridiculous, and it's week
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: after week after we're going crazy.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: God, So thank you a thousand Raccoon. We totally co
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: signed all of your feelings and your message was great
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: and last.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: And if you are on Patreon, we're thinking about doing
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: thousand pound friends. I'm kind of into it. I think
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: maybe in January. I don't know if you want to.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: We have to make some final decisions, but like thousand
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: pound Raccoons unite.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Yes, all right. Last message we have is from Tylee.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Ty Lee, Hi there, this.
• 43:22
  Speaker 12: Is Tylee from South Carolina. Love you guys, love the show,
• 43:27
  Speaker 12: and I'm just catching up on episode twelve of Sister
• 43:31
  Speaker 12: Wives and Cody like bawling on Mary's shoulder, which you know,
• 43:37
  Speaker 12: obviously was so weird, but at the end she was like,
• 43:41
  Speaker 12: this would be so much easier if he was like mean, Okay, Mary,
• 43:45
  Speaker 12: do we not remember him talking straight shit to you
• 43:48
  Speaker 12: about you to your face and on national TV. I'm
• 43:53
  Speaker 12: pretty sure that he.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Has been and is mean.
• 43:57
  Speaker 12: Okay, that's all I needed to say.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I just to get that off my system. Bye, guys,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: that's why she sucks.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Agreed, Seriously, Kylie, I mean that comment last week was
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: so infuriating. This would be so much easier if he.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Was a jerk.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: What do you mean he hasn't fucked you in ten years?
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: He says whack shit about you all the time television,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: in front of millions of raccoons.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: All the fucking time. He literally doesn't want to be
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: involved in your life, doesn't want to inquire about you
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: because you're boring.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Right, And he has done all the mean things, all the.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Mean thing, Like how many more times does he need
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: to show you that he's a jerk?
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Like, and he's been saying like I'm over the anger
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: now now I'm just in a space where we can
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: be friends. Like you still need him to be so
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: angry and awful to you and frankly abusive in order
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: to make this easier for you, Like, what's wrong with you?
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Seriously?
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: You need that? That is what I'm talking about. And
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I hate to harp on it. I know people get
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: sick of me, no, but I'm just I don't undersdand
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I don't get any at all. I really don't like
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: why you would need him to be abusive in order
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: to make this conscious uncoupling better for you, Like, no,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: this is this is who he is. Except what it is,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: you can't move on. But you know the best way
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: to get over a man is to get under one.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: And so we know that somewhere soon in this timeline,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: she's going to meet that Amos guy looks like Cody
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: and who's bald though total clout roblin.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Do think they fucked?
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Out of all of the wives, she
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: seems to be the most spiritual, like the most lds.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: E yeah, modest, So I don't know.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: If she'd take off that Mormon went underwear and let
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: somebody slid it on make a feel. I don't know
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: she'd be willing to do that, but I'd like to.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: I'd like to try and see we should put that
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: on the vision board. Well, hopefully in this hopefully in
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: this season we're going to see some of that, right,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I hope is christ the paces they put us through,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I know, but we still watch, we do and we
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: will continue to do so. Yes, Well, thank you all,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: thank you so much of the raccoons to call in.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: First of all, we love to hear from you, and
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: also you offer information and opinions that are different and
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: we appreciating very much.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: What would you say, I said, stimulating?
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Oh are you having let's beyond a feelings, you know. Oh,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: but anyway, thank you so much for calling and we
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: do you want to say that we are getting a
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: lot of these yeah, which we listen to every single
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: one of them, but it may come to a point
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: soon that we might not be able to answer all
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: of them right away. Yeah, there are a couple we
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: weren't able to get to this week, So just know
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: that if you call in, we're listening to them, but
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: we might not be able to feature every single one
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: on the pod or.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Like right away. It might be like spread out, you know.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Spread out, yeah, spread like legs, Yeah, Christine's legs, spread
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: the vagina wedding gown, spread those girl.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: I gotta go, you do You're getting drawn?
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I'm so crazy. Is there anything else that we need
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: to say to these beautiful raccoons before we get up
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: on out of here? Beatrice?
• 47:19
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• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, thank you. We will be back
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: next week. I'll be feeling better, I'll be even thinner. Yeah,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: that is never gonna happen. No, I'm a lovey raccoon.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I love it, live love fluffy. But we'll be back
• 47:53
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• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Until then, do not forget that we have nothing but
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: love for you.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: And please bye bye brys
• 48:09
  Speaker 12: Mm hmm