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S4 #9 Sienne Tells All · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Hey guys, it's Ashley. Ben is
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  Speaker 1: still down in Honduras. I just want to thank you
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  Speaker 1: all for being so supportive of the Bachelor Winter Games
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  Speaker 1: and specifically the Almost in his podcast episode from last week.
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  Speaker 1: So many of you listen. We've got great feedback. I
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  Speaker 1: think we're able to talk um and explain that Luke
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  Speaker 1: situation pretty well. And um, I knew that he appreciates that.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm glad that you guys got to know a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more about Courtney and Lily and me and Kevin. Um. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is just me today, but it's actually not. We
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  Speaker 1: have a huge show because Crystal is calling in, we
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  Speaker 1: have c n coming in in studio, and Sean Lowe
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  Speaker 1: is coming on the Almost AAMA podcast for the very
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  Speaker 1: first time. This man is hard to get ahold of.
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  Speaker 1: He you know, he's kind of the king of the
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  Speaker 1: franchise because he is the one bachelor out of twin
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  Speaker 1: is always twenty two twenty two seasons at the Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: He's the only bachelor that is currently married to the
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  Speaker 1: girl that he puts in the end. You don't count Jason.
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  Speaker 1: Jason Mesnick. I like to count, but I think he's
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  Speaker 1: like a runner up, you know, he he doesn't get
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  Speaker 1: that first place. And Sean really was His season was
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  Speaker 1: during like a Bachelor heyday. I didn't get to watch
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  Speaker 1: back in Mesnis day. So Ben, we'll be back for
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  Speaker 1: the big Ben will be back for the finale, which
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  Speaker 1: is so exciting. I am stoked for this finale. I
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  Speaker 1: do believe it maybe multiple nights. I don't think I
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  Speaker 1: can quite confirm that yet, but it's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: big one. Um, it's on my birthday, guys, it is
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  Speaker 1: on my thirty birthday, and I am going to have
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  Speaker 1: to work on my birthday. But you know what, there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing I'd rather do. That's kind of a joke, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Do we have Crystal on the phone? I have a
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  Speaker 1: list of questions for a Crystal Hello, Hello, Hey. Okay, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I need to tell you that I interviewed Crystal after
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  Speaker 1: Women Tell All for Access and I like hit it
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  Speaker 1: off with you. I immediately felt very warm and comfortable
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  Speaker 1: with you. You didn't scare me at all. You didn't
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  Speaker 1: seem like a villain when we were talking. Thank you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, don't normally come across like that. Okay, Um, well,
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  Speaker 1: first off, you did talk to me in your like
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  Speaker 1: quote regular voice, and last night you said on Women
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  Speaker 1: Tell All you kind of said that you were sick.
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  Speaker 1: And then what Harrison was like, come on, Crystal, let's
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  Speaker 1: just admit it. You have your sexy voice, right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I definitely have a sexy voice. But the thing is, like, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to motivational fitiers coach and I vocal anyone
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  Speaker 1: in my industry, especially as the circumstance of the environment
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  Speaker 1: I coach in specifically here at Orange Ferry in San Diego,
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  Speaker 1: is very harsh on your vocal and we lose our
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  Speaker 1: voices all the time, all the time. So prior to
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  Speaker 1: going on this show, I literally had to coach so
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  Speaker 1: many clients and classes. I just super stressed. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you're remember, but it's not the most
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  Speaker 1: conducive environment for really resting. Absolutely not. I will go
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  Speaker 1: an interview of your interview and I'll be like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm so tired of talking. My vocal cords
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  Speaker 1: are just exhausted. But you still have your sexy voice.
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  Speaker 1: You should just admit that. I definitely have a sexy time,
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  Speaker 1: and it is sexy time. I mean I sound different
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  Speaker 1: with guys than I do right now on this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: You have a different voice for different people. I have
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  Speaker 1: a different voice when I get nervous, and I have
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  Speaker 1: a different voice when I'm in my broadcast mode. You know, right, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: totally get it. I'm gonna hit you with the hard
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  Speaker 1: stuff first. Um, well, actually I do want to mention
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  Speaker 1: you have a friend from this season and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people would be surprised that you have an actual
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  Speaker 1: close friend from this top ten? Who is she? And
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  Speaker 1: why are you guys still friends? Are you to? Becca?
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  Speaker 1: M Yeah? Is that short hair? I mean it seemed
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  Speaker 1: like you guys hated each other. Yeah, she totally got
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  Speaker 1: on you. Which is so interesting that, like you guys
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  Speaker 1: made up after the show. Yeah, you know, we were
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  Speaker 1: actually really good friends, um, right up until about Tahoe
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  Speaker 1: and then he's kind of stopped it a little bit
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  Speaker 1: when she had her one on one And I never
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  Speaker 1: knew really the reason, but I think you just come
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  Speaker 1: outside of it and everyone has an understanding of bonding
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  Speaker 1: through that whole process. And Becca and I were really close,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean we still chat. What's really interesting is
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  Speaker 1: that the girls that I was closest to on the
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  Speaker 1: show during the filming aren't the girls that I'm closest
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  Speaker 1: to now. It actually kind of just has to do
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  Speaker 1: with who has the most similar lifestyles to you and
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  Speaker 1: who lives around you after the show. Totally, Yes, proximity
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  Speaker 1: his power. And you know, it's crazy. I've had so
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  Speaker 1: many girls reached out to me after the Fellow after
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  Speaker 1: we filmed, so many girls called me the chat and
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  Speaker 1: it was just um, because you watched it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and you their perceptions and I mean, you know how
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  Speaker 1: it goes. But you see a little bits and pieces
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  Speaker 1: kind of you know, moved around and taking out of context.
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  Speaker 1: And when you finally get a chance to explain and
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  Speaker 1: chat and you're like, okay, well I was a little
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  Speaker 1: in my head. I get that. Um I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about the tell all Um, you knew that the girls,
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  Speaker 1: despite some of them, you know, making up with you.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're going to come at you hot. Um, why
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  Speaker 1: didn't you just follow the past? Like in every past, Hell,
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  Speaker 1: all the quote villain needs to they always end up
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  Speaker 1: trying to defend themselves when all the rest of the
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  Speaker 1: cast wants is for you to just apologize so why
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  Speaker 1: didn't you just get up there and be like girls,
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  Speaker 1: I was belittling, I was condescending at times. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: If I wasn't my nicest, I'd like to apologize. You
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  Speaker 1: didn't think that was the best route to go. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I did apologize. I apologize um that I was very
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  Speaker 1: focused on filling my knee. Yeah, I was so focused
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  Speaker 1: on Ari and like in a sense, like honestly after like,
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  Speaker 1: I went into that experience and I played all out
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  Speaker 1: in every emotion I felt, even the he did moment.
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  Speaker 1: I felt it and I was full like owned it
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  Speaker 1: and I was true to that. And a lot of
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  Speaker 1: girls came out of there really having regrets that they
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  Speaker 1: really held back, and I did it. I really, I
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  Speaker 1: let it all out there, and so I wasn't gonna
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  Speaker 1: book there and I wasn't gonna just cry and beg
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  Speaker 1: for forgiveness because I stand by how how I felt
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  Speaker 1: and what I believe in my actions. Do you have
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  Speaker 1: any regrets on being so mean to the other girls, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't care. I wasn't. I don't know that. She
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  Speaker 1: says they were beneath her. That's not a super nice
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  Speaker 1: thing to say. Okay, yeah, that's a bad one, so
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  Speaker 1: I had to look care But I'm just curious if
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  Speaker 1: you have any regrets about saying when you watched it
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  Speaker 1: back there beneath me. Yeah. So, and you know the
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  Speaker 1: context that I said, which like five seconds of my
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  Speaker 1: him in an interview was pulled from you know, triple
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  Speaker 1: whole thing I'm talking about. But it was in Tahoe
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  Speaker 1: when I'm watching literally all the girls to run up
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  Speaker 1: and grabbing by the arm and hanging on him and
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  Speaker 1: grabbing in the books, and the other one waiting and
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  Speaker 1: grabbed stealing him from the other girl to go kiss him.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm watching this and I'm just like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: like this is this is above this. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: behave like this, Chris christ this is very Yes. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: one of our biggest klums I think while talking and
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  Speaker 1: about you during this season was that you were like,
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  Speaker 1: oh I am I'm above them, I'm the really confident
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  Speaker 1: in what we have. And then you were the ones
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  Speaker 1: that you were the one that ended up like asking
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  Speaker 1: or interrupting the rose ceremony or needing extra time with
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  Speaker 1: Ari to kind of feel better about it all. How
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  Speaker 1: do you explain that one? Yeah, you know, it was
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  Speaker 1: so crazy having the one on one so early on
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't one. Yeah, I did not wanted because
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  Speaker 1: you I wanted to totally progress the relationships. And so
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  Speaker 1: the one on one I really opened up to Ari
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  Speaker 1: about me and my family and my little brother, and
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  Speaker 1: it was so much so soon for me. Um, but
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  Speaker 1: it's like, you never know when you're going to get
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  Speaker 1: another shot having that interrupted time. Yet totally get that.
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  Speaker 1: I think that if you have the first day, you
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  Speaker 1: do have a little bit more of a complex than
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  Speaker 1: the other girls. Yeah, and I think that I felt
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  Speaker 1: I felt really confident and I just, um, it really
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  Speaker 1: got into my head and it was really it was
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  Speaker 1: hard to see other relationships developed and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how to prepare for that. And I got really in
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  Speaker 1: my head. I don't mind when yet when girls go
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  Speaker 1: up and get more time with him or whatever. But
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  Speaker 1: the interrupting the rose ceremony was a little dicey for
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  Speaker 1: me because I'm sure they all wanted to interrupt the
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  Speaker 1: rose ceremony. Yeah, what's up with the interrupting the rose
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  Speaker 1: ceremony or do you have any regrets about that? Or
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  Speaker 1: why was it so important? Or like, how do you
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  Speaker 1: have the ball? I think I think the first rule
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  Speaker 1: of Rose ceremonies are that there are no rules. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: other girls wanted to do it. I did it, and
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  Speaker 1: I did it because I needed to have a conversation
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  Speaker 1: with him, especially after everything that went down in Tahoe,
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  Speaker 1: like Ari and I had an interms conversation, and I
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  Speaker 1: had one an interms conversation with Tia in Caroline, and
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure are knew that that was resolved.
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  Speaker 1: I had gone up to them and spoken with them
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  Speaker 1: and we were it was resolved in the house, and
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  Speaker 1: I needed him to know that I understand. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: the last thing is just you just don't know the
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  Speaker 1: next time you're going to see him or how much
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  Speaker 1: time you're going to have, and that is fighting for
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  Speaker 1: a time and the conference of time and how important
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  Speaker 1: that is in a relationship. A new developing relationship is
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  Speaker 1: so practiced and you really just have to see it
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  Speaker 1: when the opportunities there. I think sometimes when you have
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  Speaker 1: the upper hand at the beginning of the season and
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  Speaker 1: then you feel slipping away from you, that's even more
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  Speaker 1: stressful than one of the girls that gets to know
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  Speaker 1: him more midway through the season, because you're like Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm great, everything's great with me, and then you're like,
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  Speaker 1: oh wait, but now he likes her a lot, and
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  Speaker 1: it's just like more things are filtering in and you
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  Speaker 1: get more anxious than your average girl. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 1: definitely interesting. But I want to talk about your first
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  Speaker 1: date and how you went home with him on your
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  Speaker 1: first date, which in bachelor world seems like an honor,
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  Speaker 1: but in real life it would probably be a nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: How did you actually feel You couldn't have actually been
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  Speaker 1: excited about going down the hallways of his high school
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  Speaker 1: or visiting the old pizza high worked out, and especially
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  Speaker 1: sitting down with his kind of cold family, Like I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say they're not nice people. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure they're very nice, but they're definitely not warm and fuzzies.
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  Speaker 1: They were they really were, and that they were they
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  Speaker 1: were I had. I felt so welcome meeting his family,
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  Speaker 1: and that was the highlight of the whole experience for me. Um.
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  Speaker 1: His family was fantastic and wonderful, and you are in
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  Speaker 1: that setting as like a proud older brother, but then
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  Speaker 1: the backful and you know, loving son. It was really
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  Speaker 1: special to me. And I got to meet his dog.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the highlight for me everything. Okay, well, I
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  Speaker 1: gotta go back to the bowl day because this is
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  Speaker 1: when you start making fun of Ari. And it has
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  Speaker 1: less to do with you making fun of the girls
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  Speaker 1: and be mean to the girls, but like being mean
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  Speaker 1: to Ari. You called him a needle, which is not
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  Speaker 1: like the thing that a guy wants to be called. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and you called him not Peter. So I feel like
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  Speaker 1: you're having a little animosity towards anger, just over like
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  Speaker 1: him changing his mind on the bowling thing. Something melts
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  Speaker 1: had to be going on there. I was so mad
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  Speaker 1: because on that on that bowling trip, you just see
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  Speaker 1: him with the other team. He's with the other girls
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  Speaker 1: and supposed to weren't be spending a lot of time there,
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  Speaker 1: and he was like the flotter to help the team win,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and he was over helping the other team
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  Speaker 1: win the whole time. And we were like, come and
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  Speaker 1: help us when he really wanted that. He was spending
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  Speaker 1: the majority of his time with that team. My team
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  Speaker 1: blew was like, this is both you know, he's clearly
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  Speaker 1: wants to spend time with them with the game, and
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  Speaker 1: so we were like, let's just win the game. Will
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  Speaker 1: win the time, so he focus on the game and
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  Speaker 1: not already spending all this time with the girls. And
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  Speaker 1: so when that happened so apparent because it was like
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to spend the time with them and you,
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  Speaker 1: and so it was just like, you know, I had
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  Speaker 1: carrot dangled in front of my face and was said
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  Speaker 1: to perform and had it yanked away. And I just
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  Speaker 1: don't tollerate that. I don't do it in the real world.
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  Speaker 1: I don't do it in the fantasy bout the world.
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  Speaker 1: Like I just don't put up with it. And if
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  Speaker 1: someone up sets me, I'm going to tell them you
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  Speaker 1: were being really super competitive and you're an athletic competitive
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  Speaker 1: person in real life, and I just want to know,
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  Speaker 1: like it was at the time when you started to
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  Speaker 1: lose interest and already genuinely as a person, you were like,
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  Speaker 1: this is probably not somebody I actually want to spend
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  Speaker 1: the rest of my life with. Yeah, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: came home and you see that, but it's to me,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm packing my bags and I didn't unpack them,
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  Speaker 1: And intuitively I knew I should have left at night,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like trying to make that happen, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, it ended up not, but I was done
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  Speaker 1: at that point, and then yeah, I was. I was
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  Speaker 1: one more week and I knew going in, I knew
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  Speaker 1: I was going to be up two on one, and
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  Speaker 1: I knew I was just kind of being kept around
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  Speaker 1: for that. But I wasn't. I didn't want to give
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  Speaker 1: up and walk away from this relationship was already because
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  Speaker 1: in my life, UM, I'm always the one to walk away.
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  Speaker 1: I'm always the one too just to end things, and
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  Speaker 1: for once, I didn't want to do that role. I
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  Speaker 1: had that role in the relationship. So so what would
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  Speaker 1: have happened? Have you gotten further and there was never
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  Speaker 1: attention in your relationship? Are you the kind of girl
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  Speaker 1: who thinks that maybe she would drop out after like hometowns?
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  Speaker 1: Because I think a lot of people think of hometowns
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  Speaker 1: it's like they're not really connecting. That's the time where
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  Speaker 1: they would think to leave on their own. You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's so hard because I just I wasn't there. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I never made it that far, So I really couldn't say.
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about social media and how it's
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  Speaker 1: affected you. Um, A lot of people can take it
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  Speaker 1: really really harshly. It hits them at their soul. The
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  Speaker 1: mean comments. How has it affected you and your self esteem?
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  Speaker 1: It made me stronger? Yeah, I agree, that's the way
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  Speaker 1: I take it. Yeah, I think initially it was like
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  Speaker 1: week three, like the Bowling, it was a really chilly
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  Speaker 1: for me, and all of a sudden it's got black
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  Speaker 1: on social media with it's like cruel comments. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: where is this coming from? I don't remember like that,
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  Speaker 1: and start watching the West Coast feed exactly exactly and there, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the comments from my little brother, those really those hit
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  Speaker 1: home for me. All the other comments about me, I
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  Speaker 1: just and my how my I am on the show
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  Speaker 1: as Crystal from the Bachelor. That didn't bother me because
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  Speaker 1: I know I can separate myself on that, but it
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  Speaker 1: was hard to separate the comments about you know, my
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  Speaker 1: family and but ultimo, you just had to get to
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  Speaker 1: a point where if I was going to continue to
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  Speaker 1: focus on that, it was going to really tear me down.
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  Speaker 1: And it did actually, um for about you know, a
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  Speaker 1: few days. It really affected my work and in facted
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  Speaker 1: like everything that I'm really passionate about. So I just
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  Speaker 1: had to buck up and move past it and get
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  Speaker 1: grow stronger. How are people in your workout classes? Are
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  Speaker 1: they like flocking for your workout classes or what are
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  Speaker 1: you doing? Like are you booming business wise? Yeah? My
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  Speaker 1: classes have been really packed. And I actually, I guess left.
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  Speaker 1: I was coaching at a studio and I officially left
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  Speaker 1: and now I'm just going completely online. Okay, okay, cool.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like it was a bit awkward between you
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  Speaker 1: and Ari on the women tell all have you spoken
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  Speaker 1: to him since? That was so like, this is so awkward.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, can you imagine sitting in that seat? No,
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  Speaker 1: and when you went away and there was like the
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  Speaker 1: weird there's no hug. It was sort of just like
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, I know. Um, No,
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  Speaker 1: we haven't spoken, sinned Um, I thought he had some
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  Speaker 1: He did some tweets about it. So what do you
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  Speaker 1: think of Caroline saying I know what you did? How
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  Speaker 1: could you do that? Um? Caroline? And am I doing
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: spoilers here? Just don't say the name Caroline? And okay,
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  Speaker 1: I know Caroline. Um, it's really close with a couple
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  Speaker 1: of girls and you know, and you know feels for them.
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  Speaker 1: So I think he felt like you needed to speak
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  Speaker 1: up for someone. Crystal. I feel like a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people after they had your kind of villainization. They want
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  Speaker 1: nothing to do with the show. They don't want to
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  Speaker 1: go on Paradise. I feel like you're a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more upbeat about it all. You have a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more of a sense of humor about it. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like you may be interested in doing Paradise if asked.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Is that correct? Um? We will see if I'm single
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: this summer. Um, we'll see. Okay. Um. And now we've
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: got to know you said not Peter, So I'm I'm
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: assuming you'd want Peter Crous to be in Paradise. I
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: don't think Peter Crows will be in Paradise. I don't
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: think so either, But just like he's on your radar, correct,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: you know, Peter's cross definitely feels the description of qualities
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: with the man I'm looking for. I mean, you guys
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: could work out all day long together. Yes, this couple
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: of all time. You're so cute. Okay, see, I'm just
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: walked in. Okay. But my last question is beyond Peter.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Everybody loves us to know the other bachelor lums that
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: somebody's interested in. So I gotta know, like, who would
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: you want to see in Paradise. I'm going to ask
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: you in the exact same thing in a minute. Oh God,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: hook you up? Who I want to see in Paradise?
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. Um, I really think that is
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: really cute. We've had a little bit on Instagram, what
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: makes sense? And he's never done a spin off show?
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: He hasn't. Okay, alright, well, Crystal, it's been a blast.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I really think that you're You're far more fun than
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the TV has made you seem, and you're a lot
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: nicer and I think we could really get along in
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: real life. So thank you for being yourself, and um,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: we'll have you back on I'm sure thanks for having
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: me Bye bye. All right, Well, Crystal of us in
• 19:00
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• 19:02
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• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I have CN in studio with me. She's so pretty,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: she looks so put together, and I am in my
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: pajamas with their makeup. But this is what this is
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: what happens. Hi, Ashley, how are you? Hey? Good? How
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: are you? I also met CN that women tell All.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: We did an access interview together. So my first question
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: for her was, so, yeah, and you've been getting all
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: season long that you're too smart and too good for Ari,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: And I said, how do you respond to that? And
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: how did you What did you answer? UM? I actually
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: just watched that interview on my way here at a stoplight. UM,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: that's safe. It's okay, stoplights. She's super smart. She went
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: to Yale. That's what she learned to UM. So I
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: said that, you know, I didn't think that I was
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: too good for him, but that we were probably incompatible
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: with our lifestyles, which you know, I stand by. I
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: think that there are other people who are better fit
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: for him, um, and there are other people who are
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: better fit for me. I think it's super interesting because
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I accidentally, and I apologize to you for this to
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Ashley said c M's too smart to be on this show.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: And Ashley was like how come you can't be smart
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: and be on the show, because Ashley is very smart.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: And I actually have felt bad about that almost the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: whole season because I did say that. Do you get
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of people being shocked that you went to
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Yale and then you went on The Bachelor? Yeah, it's
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: an interesting conversation because to me, I mean, yeah, it's
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: not something that I planned to do. I didn't say like,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, my biggest aspiration is to go on
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor, but it kind of happened, it worked out,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: and I do think that it would be nice if
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: it wasn't. I mean, I think obviously it's a compliment
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: for people to say, um, you know, you're too smart.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I get that they're they're trying to say that in
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: a positive light, but to me it kind of means, like,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: what is there something wrong with you that you would
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: go on the Bachelor having gone to Yale? No, it's like,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's what I That's the
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: part that I didn't you're so smart something I'm like,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: And I stayed tue to myself while I was on
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: the show, So you know, it's not a dumb thing
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: to go on the bachelor. We're all like, very many
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: of us are emotionally intelligent? Higher? How are higher emotional
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: intelligence than most? Like? Seriously, go pick ten people off
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the street and then have them go talk about their
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: feelings on tv NA. They're not going to be okay
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: with doing that. And then, I don't know, I have
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: this theory that a lot of the people have maybe
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: higher accused and the average person I might get in
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: trouble for that. I don't know. I don't know. I
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if I agree with the
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: higher ideal, but I do. I do think that it
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: takes a really brave person to do this and to
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: stay in it for you know, a significant amount of time.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a tough environment for sure. Um, And
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I do think it takes someone who's confident and someone
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: who is you know, kind of has some inner strengthen
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: them to get through this process. Okay, there you go.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Which is I guess a corum of intelligence? Yes, all right,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: thank you for putting that way better than anyway. Well see,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: and well put there. Um, we have a very special
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: guest on the phone. You have no idea how long
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: we've been trying to get him on v Bachelor Sean
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Low Sean, what's up guys? Hi? Oh my gosh, you
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: finally agreed to come on. Thanks for being here, Sean.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I hear that you are not watching your buddy are
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: season that when you all reached out to me, I
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you know, I don't know how much
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be able to add to this podcast because
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I just haven't seen any of it. But I'm so
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: curious because you don't want to see him, Oh, not
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: at all. I love Ari and I've I've been getting
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: the cliffs notes from Catherine, but I think I was
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: traveling the first few mondays and I just got behind
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: and never caught up. And that's a bad excuse, but
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: that's the truth. But it's like your good friend. Well,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: to make up for it, I've been calling him and
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: texts name to check in on. He says, he calls
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: your mom, Mom, he calls your mom. I believe it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: My dad has said on a number of occasions Ari
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: is the son that he always wanted. So my family
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: loves Okay, So you've been keeping in touch with Aris,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: So I have to have to ask you. Last night
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: during Women Tell All, Caroline said, I know what you did,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: um do you know what he did? John, I have
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: no idea that reality Steve has has thrown around there.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: As far as how the whole season plays out, I've
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: had zero confirmation if those are actually true or not.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: But maybe that's what she's referring to. I don't know.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: We're definitely getting the hint that something's happening. Yeah, yeah,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: And I think production has kind of been dropping that
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: hint to talking about how next week is going to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: be the most dramatic season ever and they've never said
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: that before and would be pretty big. Oh yeah, they've
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: never seen that before. But I do have to say
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: that I don't think they would have allowed what Caroline
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: said to make the cut during Women Tell All if
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: they didn't want to tease a very dramatic ending, like
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: an ending where um Ari could possibly look villainous. Villainous
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: but like in insensitive. Yeah, I don't know. That's gonna
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: be tough because on one hand, the Bachelor goes out
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: of its way to protect the lead, like they always
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: make the lead and look way better than they actually
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: are in real life, and that that goes I'm included
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: in that they like make you out to be the
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: dream guy that every woman wants. But you know, in reality,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: we all have our flaws and and they just don't
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: choose the air that part. Um, How does it make
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: you feel? Go ahead and continue. Well, I was going
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: to say, you know, the rumor, I don't even know
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: if I should say this out loud, but the rumor
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: that he kind of follows in Jason mesnick footsteps. That's
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: the case, then that's gonna be pretty tough Ferrari, I
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: imagine because I know Jason got raped over the coals
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: when when he did that. What's interesting is Jason is
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: the only other bachelor besides yourself who is currently still
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: with a girl from the show. How does it feel
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: you got? How does it feel so on that you
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: are the only bachelor in twenty two seasons to marry
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: his final pick and to still be with her. It's crazy? Yeah,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: is definitely crazy. We we honestly, we're so normal and uh,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I just feel like an old married man now. But
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: sometimes we just have to stop and remind each other
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: we met on a TV show like that absolutely bizarre
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: because that seems like something I wouldn't do, Like just
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: the thought of meeting my wife on a TV show
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: sounds so out there. Um, but yeah, we did it.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: And to answer your question, I guess it makes us
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: feel really good that we went on this crazy show
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: and it worked out, we stuck through all the trials
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: that come with it, and that we've got a super
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: happy family. I'm fascinated by the fact that the bachelorette success, right,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I feel like is one third. I think one third
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: ish of the bachelorettes are still with the person they
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: picked in the end, and then you are one of
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: twenty well, Oris, we don't know what happens there, but
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: one of twenty one bachelor's who are are still with
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: their wife or are still with their final pick. What
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: do you think the differences between the bachelor and the bachelor? Um,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I've got a theory. I think because the audience is
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: primarily female. I think it's so much harder for the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: guys to stay in the relationship after the show is
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: over because you're you're getting all of this unwanted female attention,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: and it makes it so hard for the woman that
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: you choose because she's thinking if she's anything like my wife,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Like I just went through this crazy show where I
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: competed against other women for you. Now that the show
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: is over, I shouldn't feel like I'm competing for your
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: attention still. And I just think that's an interesting dynamic
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: that you don't get when the woman's the bachelorette, because,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: like I said, that the audience is primarily female. That's interesting. Um.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I also feel like maybe the girls are actually more
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: marriage oriented and it's just like an intuition, Like the
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: female intuition is better. The funniest thing about Sehn is
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I remember was your wedding, the one at the four Seasons. Yeah,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I remember somebody who will remain nameless, Chris Harrison saying
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: to me, like texting me, I can't believe these two
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: goofy kids are getting married. Like it was the first
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: time where we realized we were way older than you guys,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: and literally two goofy kids got married and totally made
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: it work. Maybe that is the trick that you guys
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: were just like similar and in and like happy and
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: this can happen. I think that's part of it. I
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: went on the show and I said I want to
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: find my best friend, not knowing if I would actually
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: find her or not. But Catherine absolutely fits that bill
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: and like we just still we act goofy at the
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: house and we are each other's best friends. We want
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: to just hang out on the on the couch and
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: our sweatpants rather than get dressed up and go to
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: a club like that's just who we are. And uh,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I think that definitely has a big parts to do
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: with with why it worked and why we got married
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: and in the happy marriage we have now for sure,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: your book is called for the right reasons? Is that correct? Yeah? Okay,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: so I read it. I loved it. Um, it was
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: definitely one of the most page turning bachelor books I've read. Uh, you,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Mr Bachelor's success story is self admittedly wasn't there for
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the right reasons? Explain? I think, you know, people that
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: go on the show and they're absolutely certain they're going
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: to get married are a little cuckoo, like you don't
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: know that you don't know who you're gonna meet on
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: that show. It could you know, you could meet twenty
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: five crazy women and none of them are good fits.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I totally did the show just because I
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: felt like, you know, this is a once in a
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: lifetime opportunity. I'll get to travel the world and do
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: all these amazing things and if I happen to meet
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: somebody in the process, that would be really cool. And
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: not only did I meet someone, but I met my
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: future wife. And every time people ask me like the
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: question about the right reasons, I don't feel guilty anymore
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: saying what you just said because you how said it. Yeah,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, it really is kind of nutty because I
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: had I'm not gonna say any names, but I had
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: a woman on my season who I After the first night,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: she was convinced we were getting married, and I'm like, whoa,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: this is kind of crazy because I just met you.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: So I can't. I can't jump on board that train.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like I need to call it, like I
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: need to sing call me baby now. This is crazy. Okay, Um,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: so Catherine is pregnant. How many months along is she
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: right now? She is seven. She just entered her third trimester,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: and uh, you were due with baby number two on May.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: How is she as a pregnant woman? Incredible? I mean
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: she never with Samuel or this baby, never experienced morning sickness,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: her energy level super high. I have to remind her
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: that you're pregnant, like, hey, you should probably eat some
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: food today because you've been running around like crazy. Um,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: so she's she's handled it like a champ. Amazing, And
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for the time that you get to
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: tell Samuel and this new baby is a girl or boy?
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: We don't know, Okay, is it gonna be a surprised
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I guess with Samuel. Surprise, Yeah, Samuel, And that's that's
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the best way to do it, by the way, because
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: there is no better surprise or exhilarating moments than you know.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: The first thing you do is look between the baby's legs.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: You have it. Someone we know is like best friends
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: with Katherine? Is it Leslie? Leslie is such a nice thing.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Leslie is so close Leslie from the Bachelor Winter Games
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: is really close to your wife Katherine. Um, when was
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the last time you guys hung out with her? And uh,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: are you kind of rooting for she and Dean to
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: be a future Bachelor wedding? Yeah? I I heard about that.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I missed the Winter Games too, unfortunately, but um yeah,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Katherine and Leslie are are like best friends. They talk
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: all the time, hang out all the time. Um. You know,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I'm all for everybody being happy. So if you find
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: someone on the show as ridiculous as it sounds. You know,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: if your goal is to get married and you think
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: that person could could be your future spouse, then yeah,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I fully support that. So I hope it does work
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: out between those two kids. Yeah, all right, I got
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: one more kids. I got one more question. I love
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: to ask the married couples of this. I asked as
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, well, how are you going
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: to tell Samuel and your future child about how you
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: and your wife met? Like? How funny will that story
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: be to them? Oh? My gosh, I'm kind of dreading
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: the moment because it's going to be awkward. I'm hoping.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping Samuel is like the normal teenage boy where
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: he's like, I don't care, Mom and dad, you guys
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: are lame. That's that's what I'm kind of hoping for.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: So he doesn't investigate like my season and watch all
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: the episodes? Will he? Are you gonna have the kids
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: to watch the episodes? I don't. I mean, it's all
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: available online. That's so awesome. I can't wait till he's
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: like eight years old on YouTube. And you know, I
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: know there's some video clips on YouTube for it's only
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: me and Catherine, and so maybe we'll start with that
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: kind of omit the romantic montages exactly. I think Sienna
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: is a question for you, Hi, Sean, how are you?
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I'm doing great? Sienna is from ari season, which you
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: may or may not know she dated your bestie, you
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: would briefly, um, So I'm curious what advice you're going
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: to give Ari um after coming off of his season. Well,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. That's a great question. Um. I think
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: pretty much every Bachelor, maybe except for Juan Pablo, has
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: kind of reached out to me and asked for advice
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: after each season, and nobody has really taken it. I
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: don't know if that means I have bad advice or
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: they just don't want to listen. But I would say
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: my honest advice is try to steer clear of the
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: spotlight as as much as you can. And and by
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: the way, this is hot telling the kettle black, because
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I did Dancing with the Stars and and I kind
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: of stayed in that spotlight, but it didn't do my
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: relationship with Catherine any favors by by doing that and
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: being in that Hollywood scene and being pulled a thousand
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: different directions. So I would say, like you just entered
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: into an engagement, probably in the most weird way possible,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: and it's going to be extremely difficult because she probably
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't live in your city, and there's a whole lot
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: you don't know about her because a lot of the
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Bachelor conversations are super surface. So I would say, you know,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: just to try to be with the woman you chose
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: and really work on your relationship. Get to know her
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: because you're gonna have to learn a lot, learn how
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: to argue, and learn how to forgive, and learn this
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: and that. So um, that's that's my best advice. Try
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: not to get distracted by all the shiny lights. That's
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: great advice, and I hope he takes it. You did
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: mention in your book that that period of time on
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars was the most challenging in your
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: relationship and it was hard to get through. Yeah, totally,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: because you know, I told you I did the Bachelor
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: because I kind of felt like it was the once
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: in a lifetime opportunity. And that's pretty much how I
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: lived my life for the most part. If something really
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: cool comes up, I usually do it because it's like,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: you know, when else am I going to have the
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: chance to do this? But I had lived my whole
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: life being a single guy who only had to think
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: about myself, and in that situation, I wasn't thinking about Catherine.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about the time commitment that comes with
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: dancing with the stars, and how my new fiance would
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: be spending her days alone while I'm practicing dancing. It
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: was just really really unfair to her. And in hindsight
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: that's easy to see, but as it was happening, um,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't really get it. But you know, you've learned,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: and I've definitely grown as a husband because of that.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Oh now I'm always trying to be very conscious of
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: you know, is this is this good for my wife?
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Did you warn Crystals about that before he did it? Yeah?
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Interesting guess guys really don't take your advice. All right, Sean,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on. Hopefully we'll have
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: you back at some other point because you are you know,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: you are a role model. Well, thank you so much.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you invited the old man on your show.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: If you ask me again, I'll come back. Great. Thanks Sean,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: see you later. Bye, all right, by al right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: a fellow Pisces and her birthday is only four days
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: before mine. So, as the Pisces on the show, did
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: you find yourself overly emotional? Because that's our thing? Our
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: thing is crying all the time. And I'm like, don't
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: blame me, It's just like the day I was born.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I actually cried the day of the denalition Derby, but
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I cried kind of to myself and then went in
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: the bathroom and hid and cried for you. Yeah, because
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't want to cry on the first date,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: and then then that kind of would domino effect to
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the rest of my experience there. I tried to cry
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: to myself once you break the seal, yeah, and never
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: sadly so I couldn't let anyone see. A few people saw,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: but I was like keeping to myself. But yeah, I
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: think Pisces are emotional. We're the last of the horoscope,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: so we feel a little bit of every song. Why
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: did you cry? Because I I was a little bit nervous,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: to be honest, and even though I ended up winning,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I think I had to like build up that kind
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: of I was like, are we really like crash and
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: it was intense. You guys like, I don't think the
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: show really did it, just as for actually how in
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: tendse it was intense. It was so um. I never
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know what a demolition derby was, and
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: so I was just like, and I think it was
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: a combination of the experience and they're being so many
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: girls and I'm like, this is the first date and
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not going to make a good impression. Oh,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: there is something about the first week. So what happened?
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Was it that second episode that the demolition ever happened? Okay,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: so there's something about the second episode that makes you
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: break down. Did you realize that you got over the
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: hump after that? Yeah? I needed to, Like there was
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: a moment where I was like, I don't know if
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I can do this. Oh yeah, there's always that moment.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: So the first night, I don't know about you, but
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I cruised through the first night. I was like, oh,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I feel good, I feel confident. I think he likes me.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: And then you go back to the hotel for about
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: a night you get to like collect yourself, and then
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: you go back into the house you move in, and
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: then you realize that you, you're never alone, you have
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: no privacy, and then they're really starting to pick at
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: your emotions and the competition really begins and you just
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, um, I think I'm gonna have a
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: mental breakdown. I remember it was my second day filming AK,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: the first day in the house, and I was sobbing
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: so hard that I just needed they actually felt bad
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: for me and let me go outside, away from everybody else,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: just to like calm myself. I get it. It's like
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: you you do have to kind of go within yourself
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: and like calm yourself down, and I think that, um,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: otherwise it can kind of, yeah, get a little bit
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: out of control. Like um. The second so the second
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: road ceremony, the one where Bibiana did mic drop. Um,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I was like I just literally like stayed by the
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: fireplace the entire time. I was just like so keeping
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: to myself because it's such an intense process and everyone's
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: trying to get time and um, yeah it was. It was.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: There were a couple of moments where I was like,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know if this is for me, but then
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: you kind of just pushed through. Then you assimilate. It's fine,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: but there is a couple. There's three days in there,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: We're like, whoa, Um, what was the hardest part about
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: living in the bachelor bubble for you? Um? I actually,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: so the house was by far, for me, the worst
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: part of it all. Like once we started traveling, I
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: felt a lot more comfortable. I honestly was fine with it.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I think there were moments when I just wanted like quiet.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I think we're in Fort Lauderdale and I just wanted
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: to like read and just like be away from people.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: But there's always people around you. I'm a very independent
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: person and I love to be with my friends, but
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: there are moments when I want to be on my own.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: And so that was definitely the hardest part is not
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: being able to have your space. I find the exact
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: same thing, because like I call myself an outgoing introvert,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I need to recharge on myself and whether I'm lying
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: to just say I'm going to take a nap, I'll
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: go upstairs, sit in a bunk and just be by
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: myself for an hour. And not being not having the
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: freedom to get the things you need. Oh yeah, Like
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: believe me, I've now become a pro obviously, so I
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: bring everything you should see the size of my toiletry
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: bag when I go for these trips. But yeah, not
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: having the CVS runs the four runs, all that's difficult.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Making it sound really fun. I'm getting anxiety over here. Yeah,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: you're right. Not being able to run errands by yourself
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: is something that you don't even think. You're like, oh,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: they'll get it for me. It's like you get a
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: loan time in the bathroom. Yeah, but close the door
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: and if they don't need you for an interview like
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: this long shower. Yeah, would you shower in the private
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: shower or in like the public shower at the house? Yeah?
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: We had so the room I seed in, we had
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: um a small bathroom and so it was private. Okay, okay,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: So there's three bedrooms in the house and there's just
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: a ton of bunks in each one. There's one big
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: bathroom that like girls will honestly take group showers in
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: because there's two heads, and that's not for me. But
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I did not participate in the I don't
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: know if anyone on my season did very private took
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: a private shower. There was one time though, when we
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: stayed at the w Hall, you would in the um
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: glass of the shower was just it was like all glass,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: the whole entire bath I don't understand you guys. Hello,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: hello hotels. Um, I'm not sure why you're trying to
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: make bathrooms less and less of a private place, but
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: just letting you know that not all of us who
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: are staying together in those rooms are like husband and wife.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: And even if you are husband and wife, you probably
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: most people probably don't like pooping in front of each other. Yeah,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: so um, please make bathrooms private again. Yeah, I agree,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: make bathrooms again. So at Marshall's house, one of the
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: bathrooms has like what is going on? Like I'm still fixated.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: The girls just jump in together. Yeah, like a lot
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: of girls are very open with that, like locker room. Actually. Oh,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the night of in Fort Lauderdale, again, we were rushing
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: back from the thing and Crystal Gate was happening because
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: we had found out that she had said all of
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: these things. This is the bowling day, this is the
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: bowling date. We had to rush back. We had to
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: rush back to get ready for the cocktail party. So
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: we all we did actually all kind of like shower
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: together in that shower because we didn't have time. They
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: were like hurry up and get ready. And also Crystal
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: just blew up and we we weren't in there. We
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: were split up, like they split the two teams in
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: different buses on the way home. So we didn't know
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: anything until we got there, and the girls kind of
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: started to tell us. So, um, yeah, yeah, tell us
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: what happened on the bus, what happened on the bus.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I was not on Chrystal, start, there's something that happened
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: on the bus where she was like what just like
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: having it? I think she exploded, Yeah she lost it.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Um all right, I want to know stories like the
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: moment that you wish made air that didn't, or fun
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: stories between you girls at the house. This is what
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: everybody wants to Oh gosh, okay. Um. Well, one time
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Ari and I did yoga together and that was funny.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: He actually was quite good. He said that the only
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: class he took in college was a yoga class that
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: was class regularly attended. The only college course he ever
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: was yoga at Yale. Um. I I would go to
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: like a yoga studio, but they didn't offer yoga class
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: that was not part of the curriculums I wish. Okay,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: So we had already doing yoga. What about life with
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: the girls in the house. What was your favorite pastime?
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: We love playing heads up on the phone. Oh yeah, um,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: we did play that. We played some cards. Um. Oh,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. Painting nails a lot. We painted
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: a lot. I feel like I was doing my nails
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: like every other day. One day, finally, we were in
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: the airport on our way from France to Italy and
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I like, I was like, I have to get a manicure,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: and the producers just let me like be by myself
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: for an hour while I got a manicure. So jealous
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I was. Really it was a great hour of time.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Talk about airplanes, okay, because you guys don't have your phones,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: you can't listen to your phones. I guess you have
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: movies on those Yeah, we had. We had movies. It
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: was nice. I mean, I didn't mind it. I sleep.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: I sleep better on planes than I do in my
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: own bed. I can knock out before the fight takes off,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: So I I didn't mind the lying. I actually like
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: in that part. I enjoyed. Um. Okay, First, I want
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: to know your thoughts on Ari, because he's getting a
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: lot of flak for being like not so entertaining of
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: a bachelor. How do you feel how do you feel
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: like he was when you were in there in real life? Um?
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I thought that he is a fun charismatic guy. I
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: do think, you know, there are times when maybe some
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: things feel a little bit one note with him, but
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: I I can only say that, like I think being
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: the bachelor is or bachelorette is a tough role, so
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: you know, and he didn't really have that much time
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: to prepare for it. So, UM, I think that, just
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: like any of us, there's a lot more to our
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: personality than what's shown on the show. So I'm just
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: going to give him that. Okay, Okay, I totally understand
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: that there's so many good conversations that never make cut,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: and that's always something really funny. Last night about Crystal,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: he said he's snarky. He's very snarky. Um, you didn't
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: see much. He saw a little bit of that, but
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: I think those moments, they didn't really show them, like he's, yeah,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: he's a he's a funny guy. Um, but it wasn't.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think that was captured much on the show,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: but I got it well. Um, when Sean was on
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: the phone, and I mentioned what Caroline said that I
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: know what you did. You had a face, you were
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: like nodding, and you had like a little a little
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: something in your eye. And I'm like, oh, okay, she
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: she has she has feelings on this. Well, every I
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: mean everyone knows, I mean everyone can know. At this point.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: It's it's like very and there's only could have happened.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: So it's like it's it's confirmed, but I can't confirm it.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: So did it change your mind on Ari? On how
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: you feel about Ari? To be honest, I wasn't surprised
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I when I got sent home and not anything bad
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: about Ari, but I could tell that he was a
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: little bit indecisive throughout the process. I said to my
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: mom when I got home, I I'm confident that he's
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: going to change his mind after he picks. Wait, no, yeah,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: my mom, But I was watching an episode with my
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: mom and Lauren s and Marie and my mom brought
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: it up because I had forgotten that I said that,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: and this was before it all came out. Wow, that's
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: what Wait, I think we have to say. Um, I'm
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: gonna say spoiler alert here. You may want to fast
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: forward to the next two minutes because CNE has some
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: theories that may or may not be accurate. In Monday's episode,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Ari says I loved you like I am in love
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: with you to both Becca and Lauren, and then he
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: says he's falling in love with Kendall. He obviously didn't
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: watch Ben season. Ben was crucified for that stuff. And
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: he goes and he just seems very comfortable saying it's everyone.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: How how is that? And then he also mentioned in
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: a in the tent with Becca, he goes, my biggest
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: fear in this process is that I'm going to make
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: the wrong decision and like I have to or I'm
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: going to change my mind or something like that. Okay,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: so now I need to know you're right. He's been decisive.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: First of all, what's the difference between I'm falling in
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: here for you and I love you? I don't know
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: even talking about this for weeks because he's been dropping
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: the I'm falling in love with you for weeks and
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: it's like there's I'm falling for you, I'm falling in
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: love with you, and I love like which one is
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: falling in love stronger than I love you as I
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: love you stronger. Oh, I love you, I am in
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: love with you, I think is the most strong. But
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I also think that like if a guy is going
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: to tell me like, do I now have two hurdles
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: to get through. I need to find a guy who
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: is currently falling in love with me, and then at
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: another point he's going to tell me I am in
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: love with you, Like the process is complete. Like I
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: didn't know that I had to get over so many
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: and say I think that it's all the same. Okay,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I'm falling for you. Seems like it's got a little
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: wiggle room. We know, I'm falling for you definitely has
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: a little wiggle room. But I'm a beard versus I haven't.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I have a little scarf right now it's coming in. Okay, Well, anyway,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: I'm falling for you, like I want to take you
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: to fantasy suite. That's right, right, So now I need
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: to know about how you feel about him saying multiple
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: I love you, and how his fear you think is
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: going to factor into the end result of all this. Well,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: to me, I mean, I think it makes sense to
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: say multiple I love you personally because if you're saying
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I love you to only one person, then why are
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: you even continuing the process with the other person. See,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: normally in bachelor Land, you're not even allowed to say
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: that until you're down on one knee, and now he's
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: really breaking the rules. Yeah, well, I mean I think
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: that it makes sense that he said it to both
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: of the final two. Yeah, I think that because sense. Yeah,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: because if he says it to one and not the other,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: then why is the other girl still there? Like she
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: should just pack her bags now and we can be
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: done with the season. Yeah, you know, So, I mean
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I do think he was. I do think he was
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: probably a bit confused on what you know, he felt
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: right and maybe he thought one thing I felt like
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: the right choice, but the other was more. Um, he
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: was going with his heart. So I don't know. It's
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: it's hard to say, but um, I don't think that
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: the two people thinks should be that big of a
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: deal or just don't say it at all. But I
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: don't know. I think saying it to one person not
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: the other would have been worse in my opinion. Okay,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: so now my last question for you before we go
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: into listener emails is describe his relationship with Becca and
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: describe his relationship with Lauren and how they seem different
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: or why you think it's working with the two of
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: them based on what you saw in the house and
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: things that we wouldn't know as viewers. Okay, so I
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: actually think their relationships are like quite opposite because because
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Becca went on the first one on one and then
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: after that, their relationship kind of slowed down. Like I
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: think that once he started developing relationship with other people,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: she I think she pulled back a little bit. Um,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: I think he pulled back from her a little bit,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: and then things kind of but I think because they
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: had such a strong one on one, he wanted to
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: see if they could get back there. So they went
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: on their Tescny date and things kind of fell back
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: into place, got it, um, Whereas Lauren was kind of
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: just like under the radar for a while. And I
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: first noticed that he seemed to have strong feelings for
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Lauren in Fort Lauderdale, and um, I could see. And
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: once we were in Paris, I told her that I
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: thought she was going to be in the final two. Um,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: And like I thought she would be in the final
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: two over Becca, UM, just because I could. You could
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: just see the way that he looked at her, Like,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: maybe not so much in this past episode, but the
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: episode before that, I was like, Oh, Lauren is the one.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: And now when I saw him with Becca and Lauren
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: in the same episode, I was like, Okay, it's hard
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: to tell. Now I see Becket catching up with her. Yeah, definitely,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I think that, Um, both of the I think Becca
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: is more open with her feelings about him, and she's
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: kind of she doesn't seem to have the same fears
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: as Lauren does, and so I think that puts her
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: relationship with our in in a different place. And then
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: with Um with Lauren, I I think that it's more
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: of him trying to get her to open up, which
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: speaks volumes, because he wants he wants her to be
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: on the same page as he. Oh it does speak volumes. Yeah, Um,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: let's talk about laurence silence for a second. Is she
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: really that quiet and shy? And why do you think
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: that are is so drawn to that? Um? Lauren is
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: She's such a sweet girl. She actually was one of
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: the first people in the house to come up to
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: me and um, she was just like, you seem like
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: such a nice person, and we were really close in
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: the house early on. UM, and she's she's a funny girl.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Like I said, you don't get to see everyone's full personality.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Is she not as outspoken as some of the other people. Yes, Um,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: watching their first one on one was a little bit
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: hard to watch because they didn't really say much. It
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: was a little bit awkward, But I think that um
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: when I'm I enjoyed my time with her. I really
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: like Lauren Great. All right, guys, well, there's a lot
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• 56:21
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• 57:42
  Speaker 1: I don't ever know what kind of wine I like, Like,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I just don't get it. I just like grab whatever
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: my parents drink. But then I tried Wink and I
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: took this quiz and they actually they're able to scientifically
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: figure out what my tongue likes, which I'm totally into.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: And now I feel like a little bit smarter when
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: it comes to wine, Like I'll act will be like, oh,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I'd like this because I know I like this alright, Sana.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: People love knowing about what happens in the Bachelor House,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: like the real life things like laundry. So this is
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: from Taylor. She says, Hi, friends, real concern here when
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: you're in the Bachelor House. Do you have your own
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: laundry room there? I get that you bring a boatload
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: of outfits for cuteness purposes, but seriously, I feel like
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: you need to bring Do you need to bring underwear
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: for every single day? It's insane? Let me know, Taylor
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: from Buffalo. Yes, Hi, Taylor from Buffalo. Um, so you
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: don't need underwear for every day that you're there. But
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: the washing machine did break while we were in the house,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: so they had to shift our laundry off to get
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: laundered and then brought it back. And then after that, Um,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: there were washing machines where we stayed. So I only
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: did laundry in the house. I do feel like I
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: brought like twenty pairs of underwear. Yeah, I brought a
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: lot of I don't think I don't remember wearing the
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: same pair twice. It. Yeah, you have to bring a lot,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: but still you have you have laundry yeah, pajama is
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: an underwear. The only things I really watched because I
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: didn't wear anything else exactly. I mean, you can't alfhit
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: repeat on The Bachelor, you can definitely cannot. Yeah. Okay,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: So this is from MICHAELA and she says, Hi, Ben
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: and Ashley, I've been watching the Winner games, and I've
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: always been a huge fan of Rachel. But how she
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: acted about Dean and Leslie seems so petty and jealous
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: to me. I was wondering if you all thought the same.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: I just feel like she was so hard on him
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: since he was in her top four and she didn't
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: like to see him with somebody else. I mean, she
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: said that Ali and Josiah were better than them. What
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: are your thoughts? So, I don't know if you know
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: what she's referring to. She did during the kissing competition,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: say something along the lines of feeling like Dean and
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Leslie is um. Their whole dance and and kiss was
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: very orchestrated, and so what what do you think? You
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: think that she's just still jealous of a girl with
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: her old guy. I mean, I don't think so. I mean,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: it's been quite a while and she didn't choose Dean,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: So I don't think that was coming from a place
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: of jealousy. She she seems like she's a very honest
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: person and she was just keeping it real about how
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: she felt about their kiss. Maybe it didn't feel as
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: natural as some of the others. I mean, it was
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: a choreographed routine, So maybe she was just like, you
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: don't you shouldn't have to put on a show to
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: prove your kisses genuine exactly. So I mean, I I
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: don't I imagine that it didn't come from a jealous place. Okay,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: this question was specifically for Ben, but I really do
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: think we can talk about it. Um. I love the
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: podcast when a Lawyer listeners since the very beginning. I
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: have a few questions about hometown dates that I was
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: hoping Ben could clear up for me. But we're gonna
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: do it. Okay. What's with meeting up at a field
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: and then the girl running into the bachelor's arms and
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: wrapping her legs around him in a hug? This is something?
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: Is this something that producers tell women to do or
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: do the women just take it upon themselves to do it.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: I can't remember a woman on a hometown not doing this. Also,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: to the producers help plan hometown dates for the girls.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: I can't help but think that if I was on
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: this show and I had to take the Bachelor to
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: my small town hometown in Long Island, that we'd be
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: bored out of our minds staring at the town's post office.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much, brief. Okay, So I've been making fun
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: of this for so long now. I've never in my
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: life run up to a guy that I like and
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: then wrapped my legs around him in a hug. I
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: just would be so unnatural doing that, and I know that,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: like I am heavier than I look, I would just
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: he'd fall over. It would just be the least sexy
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen. But with you guys, it's not
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: like I feel like you did do that? Did I
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: actually did that? So I did that early on after
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: I won the Demolition Derby, I like hugged him and
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: wrapped my legs around him. But I don't know. I
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: guess it's just something. I'm sure. I'm only five three, Yeah,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: so I guess. I just I know it is kind
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: of weird. It's everyone does it, and I did do
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: it on our last onto one. Um, But yes, I
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: guess you just you are running into each other. Yeah,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: it is very but I guess that it kind of
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: loses its effect once everyone does it. But I loved
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: her question about planning hometown dates. Oh yeah, so we
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: did talk about hometown dates in the last episode. I
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: said that I planned on taking him to the Great
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Falls Falls. That is just like kind of what my twn.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: But we were planning it. So I left week six,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: and in week six is when they start pulling you
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: aside to plan hometowns because that gives them like a
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: solid I think seven to ten days to plan them.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: So what did you want to do? So? I had
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: planned to take him to a hot yoga class, like
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: a like a couple of yoga seabury. That's what you
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: would do, Like you would just take him to like
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: your hobby place. It doesn't mean that your town hasn't
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: have something exciting. It's more of like show him what
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: you like to do when you're home exactly, and go
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: to brunch after meets and my friends and then meet
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: your family. It's not Yeah, it's not as crazy as
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: you'd think. You can come up with an activity. They
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: help the producers help you kind of figure that out. Yeah,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's more like showing your life at home,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: unless of showing him your actual town. This question is
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: from Amanda. I love your podcast listen every week. Thanks Amanda.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: I have a question that's been haunting me all season,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: and I would love to hear your thoughts. Assuming it
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: would have been Peter as the bachelor, who would have
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: been his top three? Alright, so Cnn, I'm sitting here
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: talking to you, and I think he would have picked you.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: I'm almost positive you would have been the winner of
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Peter's season. Really, does that make you feel good? Kind of? Yeah? Um?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: My other two that I would expect to be in
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: his top three would be Crystal and Becca. M what
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: do you think? M hmm? Interesting. I don't think Crystal
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: would have been in his top three. Really love you, Crystal,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: but I think she w with the crazy would have
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: come out with any bachelor, so I don't think he
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: would have really been down with that. But she's so
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: competitive and athletic. Yeah, but it's not it wasn't winner games,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like we didn't have to compete for anything. Um.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: In terms of I don't I don't think she would
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: have been in the top three. I think, I think
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: probably different girls. I think he really would have liked
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: mariek Um. Yeah, yeah, I think they would have gotten along. Um.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: I think um. I think it would have been a
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: different Top four for sure, had Peter been the Bachelor.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I think so, but you know he wasn't. So come on, guys,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: why are we talking about this? All right? I want
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: to move over to relationship questions, not so much bachelor questions.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: I feel like you'd be really good at that. I'm
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: going to kind of let you carry it because I'm
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: really bad at relationship questions, being that I'm really in
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: my first one at the age of thirty. Well, I'm
• 1:04:45
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  Speaker 1: me start off by saying that I am considered damaged goods.
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  Speaker 1: I was OH, I was married to an abusive man
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: for years, and while I have been divorced for almost
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: ten years, I've had tons of therapy to help me heal,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: and I think it's impossible to ever walk away from
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: this completely undamaged. I have only been in too serious
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: relationships since my divorce ten years ago. The second one
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: just ended around New Year's and I have a ten
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: year old daughter and she's amazing. But on January five,
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  Speaker 1: I had a hys directed me, Oh my gosh, this
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: poor girl. I'm thirty four and he was thirty and
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: while we plan to be married, he had already asked
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  Speaker 1: for my father's permission because we're both Southern. He's respectable. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I know that I could never give him a baby
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: and that was too much and you just couldn't deal
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: with that. Oh, this has been a bad split for
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: both of us and we were really in love. How
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: do I handle going forward? I never want to live
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: through this again. So when I'm dating in the future,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: do I say, Hi, I'm Megan. I can't carry your babies.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: I have no idea what it's appropriate to mention this,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: but I would hate to connect with someone and then
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: it'd be a deal breaker, or then say it too
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: soon and scare them off. So please help? What do
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: I do? That was intense? Well, you know, Ben's really
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: good at handling questions like this. I, on the other hand,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like I don't know what to do. I'm so sad. Well,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: first off, I'm so sorry about that. UM, you're definitely
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: not damaged goods, that's for sure. UM. I think that
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: if you're going forward and dating, UM, you know, obviously
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't mention it on the first date. But you
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  Speaker 1: don't really talk about having children on the first date generally.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel like if you are connecting with someone
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  Speaker 1: by the third or fourth time and you guys, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't I imagine that that might come up and
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  Speaker 1: at some point, and I don't think that there's I
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  Speaker 1: think it's better to be honest um early on than
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  Speaker 1: than hide that information, UM and then kind of dropped
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  Speaker 1: on them after things get serious. But UM, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's something that you should be ashamed of. M
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you've probably heard the suggestion, but I'm thinking
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  Speaker 1: maybe you should date guys a little bit older than you,
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  Speaker 1: and then guys who already have kids. That would make
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  Speaker 1: it easier for sure. Good at this? Thanks practice? All right? Well, Megan,
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  Speaker 1: we hope that you find someone who just loves and
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  Speaker 1: cherishes you. You seem like a very sweet girl. This
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  Speaker 1: one is from Rachel. She says my ex and I
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: have been broken up for nine months and recently started
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  Speaker 1: seeing each other again. He is leaving on a trip
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: for five weeks and then moving to a different state.
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  Speaker 1: So it just doesn't seem very realistic that we're going
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  Speaker 1: to make this work. As much as we both want
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  Speaker 1: to make it work, the distance just does seem like
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  Speaker 1: it's going to work for our relationship, and it seems
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  Speaker 1: like it's not our time. Although I hate the whole
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: concept of timing, I would love to get your thoughts. Well,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: that's pretty simple. Yeah, I think you answered your own question. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that it's probably time to call this one quits. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I always feel like, if you broke up once,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: remind yourself why you broke up that one time, because
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  Speaker 1: that reason, even though you're like kind of rekindling and
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: it's all exciting again, it's probably gonna come back up.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: I agree. You know. Then that being said, there's a
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of couples who have split up and then
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: they've lived to have happy, healthy Yeah. I think it
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: definitely can happen that you can reconnect with someone. Um,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think knowing the reason why you guys
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: broke up the first time, and then if you want,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: if you know, there's so many people out there, Like
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think that there's one person that's meant for you.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm always of the opinion of, like, why make
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: it difficult on yourself, especially if you have some doubts
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: about that person. I agree totally. Just keep reminding yourself
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: of that. Rachel. All right, Um, I want to do
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: a speed round of questions with Cianne before we leave.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: What's your favorite food? Oh? I love sushi? What kind
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: um yellow tail tuna with sauce? Yeah, I mean pokey
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: pokey bowls. I could have those like five days a week. Awesome. Yeah.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: What was your favorite day on the show? My favorite date? Um?
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: Mulan rouge? Yeah? Were you fan of the movie? I've
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: never even seen the movie. What best soundtrack of all time?
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: I know, I mean I've heard songs from it, but
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: I've never seen the movie. What is a surprising passion
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: of yours slash interest? Um? Well, I guess it's not
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: surprised that surprising. But I'd love to travel and just
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: want to keep doing that as much as possible, but
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: it's difficult with a full time job. So what's your
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: favorite place in the world. Um who, I haven't seen
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: all of the world, but um I let's see. Oh
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: my god, so many good places. I recently went to
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Thailand and that was beautiful, stunning. Um I love. I
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: studied brought in Italy, but I traveled all over. I
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: actually really liked Berlin, Germany a lot. It's a cool city. Cool.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: What's your favorite movie? Um, I don't really have one.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: What I know, I don't really have a favorite movie,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: but I always like as a little girl, remember just
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: like loving Titanic. I know how cliche that is, that's
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: my favorite movie. Times like, it's such a good movie.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: It's just makes you feel so many things, and I
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: love it. That's a perfect answer, just letting you know.
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  Speaker 1: I know in my soul that I saw my favorite
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: movie of all time when I was eight years old,
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  Speaker 1: and I will never change. I will be a ninety
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: year old woman saying my I saw my favorite movie
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: at eight. Yeah. I remember sitting in the theater and
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: I was just like you kind of don't know everything
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: that's happening, but I just knew there was a feeling
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  Speaker 1: I got when I watched it. I loved it. I
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: know what the feeling is I'm kind of embarrassed to
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: say that, but it's true. There is any feeling that
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: I get still from that movie that has never been replicated.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. And what is your fair place to shop?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, well, I love shopping. I love reformation free people.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: I guess those are good. Yeah. Great, Well, Ceanne, It's
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: been a pleasure. Thank you so much for joining me,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: for having me. You've made this episode easy without Ben,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: and we've loved all the inside scoop that you've brought.
• 1:12:30
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• 1:12:33
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• 1:12:37
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• 1:13:03
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• 1:13:06
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