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- 0:00Brake Fix's History of Motorsports series is brought to you in part
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- 0:07Society of Automotive Historians, the Watkins Glen Area Chamber of
- 0:11Commerce, and the Argettsinger family.
- 0:16Argento e Ebroso, an alternative story of the mid engine
- 0:19revolution by Carl Heinz Mertens.
- 0:22Dr.
- 0:22Karl Heinz Mertens holds a master's degree in mechanical engineering and a
- 0:26doctorate degree in engineering from the Technical University in Berlin, Germany.
- 0:30He has over 35 years of engineering and business experience in Europe
- 0:34and the United States with focus on product innovation and new business
- 0:37incubation using cross disciplinary methods and cross cultural sensitivities.
- 0:42His work includes experiments on intelligent mobile equipment and
- 0:45wind energy systems at the corporate engineering division of Deere and Company.
- 0:49His enthusiasm for Formula One began in 1961.
- 0:53Mertens presents a what if story.
- 0:55What if Robert Eberin von Eberhorst in 1953 would have joined the
- 0:59newly formed Unione Automobili instead of the Auto Union that was
- 1:02only a shadow of its former self?
- 1:04What if Francesco Di Virgilio and Ettore Zacconamina had been tasked with
- 1:09designing a compact V6 engine for the 2.
- 1:125L GP Formula that would take on the rather conventional Mercedes W186?
- 1:16Eberin What if Joseph Michel's aerodynamic knowledge would have
- 1:19been applied to create downforce?
- 1:21Would lessons learned from pre war silver arrows and the untimely Sistalia
- 1:25Grand Prix project, when blended with elements of Lancia's passionate
- 1:28engineering culture, have accelerated rear engine revolution in Formula One?
- 1:33Our next presentation is, I love, I get to say this, I get to use some of my Italian.
- 1:38Argento e Rosto, An Alternate History of the Min Engine
- 1:42Revolution, by Carl Heinz Mertens.
- 1:44I love this topic.
- 1:45This is one of those things, thinking out of contrafactual history, is
- 1:49something that's being used a lot now to examine different events in history.
- 1:54I'm looking forward to this one.
- 1:55Thank you.
- 1:57Did it really need to take 25 years from the first cars that were winning
- 2:03Grand Prix races with the engine mounted behind the driver until it
- 2:09became commonplace and then all the U.
- 2:11S.
- 2:11Grand Prix's that were held here at this wonderful racetrack were all
- 2:16Contested by and won by cars that had the engine mounted behind the driver.
- 2:21It seemed to be the most normal thing in the world.
- 2:24So, let me run you through a few stages of what happened in reality,
- 2:30and then I will veer off into what I would submit as an alternative reality.
- 2:36And you can dispute that, and you can criticize me for some of the
- 2:40stupidities that I will throw out here.
- 2:42But it's something that I've been thinking about for a long time.
- 2:46And now in retirement, I've had time to really devote some
- 2:50quality time to this topic.
- 2:52And I want to share this with you, but I invite you to be critical with me.
- 2:57I start here at the year 1937, and this is just one of the races
- 3:03that we're counting towards the European Championship of Drivers.
- 3:08And what you see here is the typical view in those years.
- 3:12There are many silver cars, and they have just a sprinkle of red.
- 3:18There's a lot of Argento, a little sprinkle of Rosso in this image.
- 3:23The lone Alfa Romeo here of Tassio Nuvolari.
- 3:27In the pole position here is Bernd Rosemeyer in an Auto Union.
- 3:33As you may deduct here, the engine is really mounted behind the driver.
- 3:39Whereas all the Mercedes cars in the vicinity here, Herman Lang, Caracciola
- 3:44here, they all have the typical, classical front engined cars, just like
- 3:49the Thomas Flyer engine mounted in front of the person that drives the car, or
- 3:55the two people that were sitting there.
- 3:57That seemed to be the norm.
- 3:59Why even question that?
- 4:00And yet we know from many Instances in industry in art and so on things change
- 4:07and sometimes they have to change for good reasons But the underlying situation here.
- 4:14I want to point out quickly was that this happened all under the 750 kilogram
- 4:20formula that the CSI brought into action because the previous cars were
- 4:26getting too fast and too powerful.
- 4:28Thought was, well, if you limit the drive weight of the car to 750
- 4:33kilograms, then not much can happen.
- 4:36The engines will have to become smaller and there is just no chance
- 4:40for increase in performance and perhaps a decrease in safety of
- 4:44running these cars on the given tracks.
- 4:47The opposite happened.
- 4:48Rule makers did not really anticipate the tremendous progress that happened in
- 4:54metallurgy, in engineering in general, in tires, in many areas that compose the car.
- 5:01What happened was the technical complexity went up dramatically, the performance
- 5:06of these cars compared to the previous ones went up dramatically, and the
- 5:11dominance of that was held by the red cars, the Rosso element, switched over
- 5:18to the Agenta, to the silver cars, the ones that happened to be made
- 5:23in Germany, where I also come from.
- 5:25And as you see in the results here, the first three finishers were silver cars,
- 5:30Mercedes in the first two places, Auto Union number three, and Pazio several
- 5:37minutes distance came in as fourth.
- 5:40Two years prior, by the way, he had won this race because this man, von
- 5:45Bauchitsch, was abusing his tires and he didn't want to stop for a second
- 5:49tire change and he paid heavily for that and Nuvolari was the surprise winner.
- 5:55The organizers were not prepared to have a foreigner win the German Grand Prix.
- 6:00They were struggling to get the national anthem dug out and all those things.
- 6:06And it took a while for the spectators to recognize that they had a different
- 6:10winner than what they had expected.
- 6:12So there were a number of things happening under the 750 kilogram formula, but by and
- 6:18large, it was a duel between the silver arrows of Mercedes Benz and Auto Union.
- 6:23This period was one of disruptions.
- 6:26What became evident was that a complex car could no longer be designed and
- 6:32constructed by a singular genius.
- 6:35By an artisan, a craftsperson, it went to teams of specialists
- 6:40that replaced those individuals.
- 6:43That was difficult for some people, and as an example, Ettore Bugatti
- 6:48perhaps, and more pertinent to this talk than Vittorio Jano, were
- 6:53more in this category, I would say.
- 6:56They may not have been the best leaders of a team of specialists,
- 7:01and that's what came about.
- 7:03You can see here the Mercedes core team of their racing department, led by Uhlenhout.
- 7:10He was also the person that focused very much on a new chassis.
- 7:14paradigm where previously chassis were pretty flimsy affairs and the wheel
- 7:20suspension was pretty hard and the chassis was basically the suspension
- 7:24system, spring system that changed dramatically when the chassis was
- 7:29fortified and became much more stable.
- 7:31We also saw, as in the previous image, that the mid engined chassis,
- 7:36car concept became competitive.
- 7:39It was almost equal to the conventionals.
- 7:42So when that happens in a very short period of time, that's pretty
- 7:46amazing and should tell people that there's something to it.
- 7:49Because typically it takes a while for the new challenger to challenge
- 7:54an incumbent because the incumbent has naturally some 50 years of
- 7:58experience to refine the concept.
- 8:00So this was, was telling.
- 8:02I think also the uh, fascist governments in Italy and in Germany started to use and
- 8:08abuse GP racing for propaganda purposes.
- 8:11So it was no longer a matter of the individual driver and
- 8:16the team to be successful.
- 8:18Now you had to be successful for the whole nation or you would be criticized
- 8:23by masses and by the leadership.
- 8:25There were state subsidies paid in Germany.
- 8:29But they were relative minor contributions to the overall budget.
- 8:33This space race, so to speak, that happened in Germany was much
- 8:37more expensive than, say, the sums that were paid by the government.
- 8:41Going forward, Mercedes was well known, of course.
- 8:44But the challenger was Auto who?
- 8:47Auto Union.
- 8:48Not really an organization with a long history.
- 8:51Well, it was a company that was born out of necessity.
- 8:56There were four companies in Saxony, in Germany.
- 9:00And they were closely related geographically, but they all four
- 9:05had the same financial troubles and they had difficulties growing.
- 9:09The banks, namely the, uh, Saxon State Bank, was very worried about
- 9:14their investments and they said, something needs to change here.
- 9:18Why don't we bring those four?
- 9:20companies together and work towards economies of scale.
- 9:24So, in 1932, those four companies, previously independent, Audi, DKW, or
- 9:31DKW, Horsch and Wanderer, were brought together into this Auto Union AG.
- 9:37The company kept a multiple brand strategy.
- 9:40When you look at these bar graphs, you see that the portion of the
- 9:45bars here stands for the DKW, DKW.
- 9:47Contribution here, a very simple and low cost car made the majority
- 9:53of this business in terms of volume, sold cars per year.
- 9:57And you can see over the years, there was quite an increase.
- 10:00The company, Auto Union, became the number two in Germany, but not many people
- 10:05knew about the name and could relate the name to specific projects and products.
- 10:11So either they had to go big time into advertising or.
- 10:16and make a name for themselves.
- 10:18Now, Wanderer, one of the four constituents, had already had
- 10:22a good relationship with Dr.
- 10:25Ferdinand Porsche's engineering office out of Stuttgart, and he had
- 10:29designed some of the very successful Wanderer cars and engines for those,
- 10:35four cylinder, six cylinder, and he also had plans already in his mind.
- 10:40for a car from what was called then the P Wagen or P Wagen, a 4.
- 10:464 liter V16 Grand Prix car with the engine mounted behind the driver.
- 10:51Wanderer was almost sold on it, but now they had to get approval from
- 10:55the Auto Union holding company.
- 10:57It took a while to get there, but finally that came to pass, particularly when
- 11:01the political landscape shifted around.
- 11:04at this time, and Hitler came into power, and he was very much into mass
- 11:08mobilization and automobile propagation.
- 11:11And he wanted to demonstrate, of course, the essential superpower of
- 11:16the German nation, and it could be demonstrated in some sort of a space
- 11:20race that at that point was auto racing.
- 11:23Now, the Porsche design, quite, Intricate and complex was only that.
- 11:28It was a design.
- 11:29Porsche's engineering office did not build anything, really,
- 11:33other than some rough prototypes.
- 11:35So it had to be done within Auto Union, that they had to come up with a real car.
- 11:40And the task was given to this gentleman here, who smokes, and the full picture
- 11:45would show there's a race car in this vicinity, and this is taken at the boxes.
- 11:49And it was Robert Eberhahn.
- 11:52from Eberhorst.
- 11:53His statement was from the get go he was completely convinced that this
- 11:57what he then called the rear engine concept was really the real deal and
- 12:01he was fully behind propagating that.
- 12:03Here we learn a little bit more about Ferdinand Porsche's P Wagen
- 12:07as documented in patent literature here and what you see here in
- 12:11particular is of course the general concept of the car and the engine is.
- 12:15The gearbox cantilevering behind the rear axle.
- 12:19What he pointed out in this particular text and claims was that the line
- 12:27here, the yellow line, which is close to what we today would call
- 12:31the roll axis of the vehicle.
- 12:33In those days, the term had not been coined, but he pointed out
- 12:36this axle was very important and it should go through the center
- 12:40of gravity of the unsprung mast.
- 12:42When that was accomplished, then there would be no sideway inclinations of the
- 12:46car, and they would be absolutely done with, and the car would really hold the
- 12:52road like a board sliding over the road.
- 12:55There would be no tilting or rolling of the car.
- 12:57You can see a little bit here, Bound Rosemeyer negotiating a corner at
- 13:02the Donington Circuit in England.
- 13:04You can see that there's not much roll here, But there's a lot of oversteer
- 13:08and opposite lock, and it wasn't easy to control these cars at the time.
- 13:13Because there's a bit of a flaw in this concept that looks good on
- 13:17paper, that there should be no roll.
- 13:18Roll is a pretty good early indicator that the car is getting closer to its
- 13:24limits, the adhesion limits of the tires.
- 13:28So, you want to have a little bit of roll, otherwise the driver will
- 13:32get much more surprised by the rear.
- 13:36That was a lesson after World War II.
- 13:39We skipped that dark part of history.
- 13:42The silver arrows were pretty much out of business.
- 13:45The Auto Union, as it was known then, was out of business.
- 13:49It was partially located in the Russian zone, what became then East Germany.
- 13:55And the smart people that worked there tried to get out
- 13:59of Dodge as quickly as possible.
- 14:01And they reestablished some smaller organization in West Germany, a
- 14:05new Auto Union, but not nearly as potent as the original was.
- 14:09And Mercedes Benz, the factories were in smithereens and they had to
- 14:14slowly rebuild their core business.
- 14:16Alfa Romeo, on the other hand, had a couple of challengers for post World War
- 14:21II Grand Prix racing at their disposal.
- 14:23They were smart enough to hide those assets well, protect them throughout
- 14:27the war, and they had two concepts.
- 14:30One was what we know as the 158 Alfietta, which was a conventional car with the
- 14:37engine in the front, and there was the second one, That was the 512, very much
- 14:43modeled after the Auto Union race cars.
- 14:46And you can see here, it had a very high roll center in the rear axle.
- 14:50And it pretty much copied the same slope of the roll axis as the 512.
- 14:55Porsche patented outline.
- 14:57This was more or less a brainchild or project directed by Fredo Ricard, who
- 15:02was a very theoretical man, studied, not necessarily the most practical
- 15:08person, and not a person who interacted well with the more practical people,
- 15:13maybe the previous artisan generation.
- 15:15There was a bit of a wall between them.
- 15:18So he persisted with this relatively high roll center here.
- 15:24The DDO are excellent.
- 15:25The back shows that there's a watts linkage.
- 15:28There was an unusual high placement of the roll center at the lateral
- 15:33arresting point of the DDO tube.
- 15:36So that was a bit of a flaw.
- 15:38Hence, there were some issues with the road holding of that prototype.
- 15:42There were almost two 512s.
- 15:46The first one was tested in 1940.
- 15:49It showed some difficulties with road holding.
- 15:52Now, on the other hand, the 158 had its own chassis impairments that
- 15:57would show up later as the engine horsepower increased quite dramatically.
- 16:02But for now you could argue when Alfa Romeo decided what to go racing
- 16:07with after World War II, the Alfetta, was the more reasonable choice.
- 16:11Early on, way back when I first thought about this alternative history, this
- 16:16seemed to be a perfect deviation point, you know, where you deviate from real
- 16:20history into La La Land, and my first thought was why don't we just shift from
- 16:26one car to the mid engined car, the 512?
- 16:29Well, it is not quite that easy.
- 16:31easy as it showed once I did a little bit of my way of research and dug
- 16:36into literature and all kinds of prior art that existed at the time.
- 16:40It seemed that there were issues obviously in the design which could
- 16:44have been changed and further developed.
- 16:47However, when Hugo Gombato, who was running Alfa Romeo at the time,
- 16:51was assassinated in 1945, Eric Cart, who came originally from
- 16:56Spain, felt for his own safety it was best to go back to Barcelona.
- 17:00And he had not made many friends within the Alfa organization, so when he left
- 17:05there were not many disciples that would have picked up and would have development
- 17:10of this quite visionary design of the 512.
- 17:13The engine, by the way, was certainly a superior element in that
- 17:17whole design compared to the 158.
- 17:20So, the revolution was suspended, and my story couldn't pivot at that point.
- 17:25In the meantime While Alfa Romeo was quite successful in the, um, driver
- 17:30world championship in 1950 and 51, at the beginning of the Formula One as we
- 17:35know it, Mercedes was still rebuilding the core business, but they had declared
- 17:39already in 51 that by 54, when the new 2.
- 17:445 liter Formula One would come into being, that they would start participating in it.
- 17:48Now, they had a new project leader in Hans Schoenberg, But they also had
- 17:52some of the old experienced guys like Alfred Neubauer, Rudolf Uhlenhout
- 17:56at their disposal to start building this next generation of Silver Arrow.
- 18:01And they had roughly 200 staff members at their disposal, which is a huge number.
- 18:06Number of engineers and technicians and fabricators in those days.
- 18:11So they were going all out.
- 18:12They were not kidding when they said in 54 we want to be on the racetrack again.
- 18:18And they had further access to about 300 specialists within the
- 18:22corporation that they could get information from on a part time basis.
- 18:27So there was a lot of potential there in terms of.
- 18:30engineering horsepower know how.
- 18:32They also worked quite well with Bosch, that they had been working
- 18:35with as a partner during World War II, on fuel injection systems.
- 18:39So they got a lot of help there in optimizing their direct fuel
- 18:43injection system, which was also an improvement over competition.
- 18:47So you wondered who could be an opponent for this onslaught by
- 18:52Mercedes Benz after World War II.
- 18:54Certainly none of the German companies, we had already briefly stressed Auto
- 18:59Union, the newly formed GMBH, wasn't really in a position to do that.
- 19:04They didn't have the means.
- 19:05Burgwardt, who was kind of a, multi brand cluster of companies as well.
- 19:10They were into touring car racing to some extent.
- 19:13Veritas was a very small scale builder of race cars, kind of a silver arrow
- 19:20that they tried and they used the BMW 328 engine for their efforts.
- 19:25Well, as they were not that successful, BMW asked them to stop using their engine
- 19:32and then they had to make their own engine and they dabbled with two cycle engines.
- 19:36They wouldn't go anywhere.
- 19:38They didn't have anywhere near these resources.
- 19:40So that didn't work out well.
- 19:42Meanwhile, in Italy, after El Toromeo was already quite successful with the pre war
- 19:48designs, and they were thinking about, they needed to have a new design in order
- 19:53to stay competitive, Garagi was then.
- 19:55running Alfa Romeo and his leadership team felt it was enough with racing
- 20:01and it was good to stop at the height of their success rather than
- 20:05continuing and risking to lose the glory that they had accumulated.
- 20:09Ferrari was particularly in the context of mid engined cars.
- 20:13A big opponent to him, the Oxford horse, always must pull the cart.
- 20:17It's his style.
- 20:18It's thought kind of a faulty analogy because even front engine cars push the
- 20:23car as long as it's rear wheel driven.
- 20:25And then there was Cisitalia, who was a small company with huge
- 20:30ambitions and they had contracted the Porsche engineering team.
- 20:35to design the 360, a very advanced, mid engined, Formula car, Grand
- 20:40Prix car that was very complex.
- 20:43And Duzio, who owned Sissitalia at the time, was way over his head, I think,
- 20:48in terms of financial commitments.
- 20:50And understanding how much it would take beyond the initial design of a car.
- 20:55You have to field it, and then you have to also be aware.
- 20:58That when you start, even if you're very competitive at the
- 21:02beginning, competition isn't going to sleep, there will be upgrades
- 21:05and you will have to upgrade yours.
- 21:06And so they just didn't have, based on their relatively small, tiny
- 21:11boutique car company with beautiful cars, with bodywork styled by Farina.
- 21:17They were popular, but they didn't make much money, so there wasn't.
- 21:21the financial wherewithal to support a Grand Prix project like this.
- 21:27The engine by the time, you know, 54 would roll in, the 1.
- 21:325 litre supercharged engine was obsolete, so they would have to,
- 21:35uh, to get a different engine.
- 21:36But by 49, Cisitalia was pretty much bankrupt, and Duzio took the car
- 21:42himself over to Argentina, and there was no real engineering support.
- 21:46So this project, which was very promising, died out before it
- 21:50ever really got onto a racetrack.
- 21:52Also, they waited way too long to do the first on track tests.
- 21:56They wanted to build six cars, ideally, and then think
- 22:00it was perfect to go racing.
- 22:02So they didn't really Very much about the four wheel drive that was part of this
- 22:06car and to try it out to understand How does it work on straight ahead and in
- 22:10curves and so on so there was a lot of?
- 22:13over optimism that would that project is good area Milan was even more
- 22:18optimistic in coming up with a kind of a raw prototype of a mid engined
- 22:23car that had a transversely mounted eight cylinder engine, air cooled,
- 22:28without showing any serious means of getting rid of the heat that this
- 22:32very powerful engine would generate.
- 22:34And they certainly didn't have the wherewithal, so I
- 22:37would say, don't do that.
- 22:39Now, of course, you know, the real history shows us, and Chris Nixon shows in his
- 22:43book very well, There was a arrival to Mercedes Benz in form of the Lancia D50,
- 22:49but I submit Lancia was not really in a position to get into Grand Prix racing.
- 22:56They didn't have the financial wherewithal.
- 22:58Gianni Lancia, who was running the company then, should have been told to pivot more
- 23:03to the money making side of the business and hold back for now on the Grand Prix.
- 23:09Passionate racing enterprise.
- 23:11So I don't think that that was real.
- 23:13Also, although they had a car that after some development showed
- 23:17promise and could have challenged Mercedes, they could probably not
- 23:21withstand the ongoing upgrades and competition that would raise the bar.
- 23:26So.
- 23:27My conclusion here is there was no single entity in Italy or elsewhere in France
- 23:33or England that could really mount a challenge to Mercedes Benz and therefore
- 23:39something else would have to happen in order to fulfill my dream of propelling
- 23:43forward the change to rear engined cars.
- 23:46So, I've defined two conditions that are necessary for enduring.
- 23:51success, it probably pertains to other classes as well.
- 23:55An effective project has to have a solid funding and a long term commitment.
- 24:00It can't just be a commitment.
- 24:01It has to be more than one year.
- 24:03It has to be an extended commitment from a potent industrial
- 24:08corporation, I would say.
- 24:09It doesn't necessarily have to be a car company, as Red
- 24:12Bull today demonstrates this.
- 24:14But, it should preferably be one.
- 24:17And, I would submit as a second condition, a component supplier
- 24:21should be involved also.
- 24:23Particularly since either tires or fuel are playing a big role in the
- 24:28ultimate performance of the car.
- 24:29Maybe one of those suppliers should be involved actively.
- 24:34Not just putting their labels on the car, but being actively involved
- 24:38in the development process, because they have some skin in the game,
- 24:42financially, but also image wise.
- 24:44And so when you have these two conditions fulfilled, I think then you
- 24:48have a good shot at being successful.
- 24:49being ultimately successful, and I bring forward two examples here
- 24:53for your consideration, although they extend a little bit beyond
- 24:56the time period I'm talking about.
- 24:58But there is the FenWall effort to bring British Racing Green
- 25:04into the forefront of competition.
- 25:05Grand Prix Racing, Tony Vanderwaal, who was very committed, who had the
- 25:09wherewithal, he was the head of a large corporation that built sliding bearings
- 25:15for engines for the car industry.
- 25:17Among other things, he owned Lucas, was responsible for the Prince of Darkness.
- 25:21And in so far, there was some potency there.
- 25:25And over years.
- 25:26First, he started out with modified Ferraris, as you know.
- 25:29Then he pivoted towards his own design, which was ultimately successful in 1958.
- 25:34He won the first Constructors Championship, which was then
- 25:38open for the first year.
- 25:39Not the Drivers Championship that went to Mike Hawthorne on a Ferrari.
- 25:44And then, you could say, Rubery Owen, which also adopted the BRM project,
- 25:49which was kind of flawed from the get go when it was this designed by committee
- 25:54organization way back in the forties.
- 25:57But it was like a cat with many lives ended up at some point once the, uh,
- 26:04automotive component company, Rupert Owen pulled pretty much out of that venture.
- 26:09Then we find an example where a different type of sponsor comes into
- 26:14the picture and that would be one way.
- 26:16But That sponsorship was not really contributing to the technical development
- 26:21and it was pretty feeble because they went from one car company to the next
- 26:25and sometimes they supported more than one but it wasn't enough to stay alive.
- 26:30So what I'm proposing And again, this is a bit of a leap of faith that you
- 26:35may want to follow me with or not.
- 26:38I think in Italy, there was enough potential, there was enough passion to
- 26:42get big time into Grand Prix racing, but it would take that financial
- 26:47underpinning of a larger company.
- 26:50Renewal Fiat would not participate.
- 26:53They were never interested after their successes in the
- 26:551920s to go back into GP racing.
- 26:58So it takes a conglomerate effort.
- 27:01very similar to the Auto Unione that we had seen prior to World War II.
- 27:07I suggest in Italy there should be the establishment of an Unione Automobili,
- 27:11a Finmeccanica company, part of the, uh, ERE, which was a public holding
- 27:18company in Italy that had picked up, previously in the 1930s, already Alfa
- 27:22Romeo, when they were in hard times.
- 27:25And so Alfa Romeo was already part of this, I submit, when you look at the
- 27:31categories here and the brands that Auto Union had, then Alfa Romeo probably
- 27:37would be an equivalent to Vandra.
- 27:39The DKW, I'm struggling a little bit with it.
- 27:42I think Iso, Iso Rivolta and the Isetta would be an interesting play.
- 27:49I think also, since DKW always had motorcycles as the point
- 27:55of entry for automobiles.
- 27:56Consumers to get into mobile equipment.
- 27:59There may be a play for a Vespa in terms of a joint venture, perhaps.
- 28:04Lancia would be the upscale part, not trying to compete with Alfa Romeo.
- 28:10That would be fairly senseless.
- 28:11There may be some overlapping, some platform sharing that I could
- 28:15see, even with the eyes of somebody in the early 1950s, and there
- 28:20may be in this low cost segment.
- 28:24Bernard out of France, but in those days having multinational corporations
- 28:29was probably not very feasible yet.
- 28:33So, that's a bit of an open question.
- 28:35And I add also a category, and we'll soon see why that is significant.
- 28:40And I'm not really talking about mid engined race cars, as you recognize.
- 28:44I'm building a platform that, uh, allows that technology to
- 28:49really take place in a big scale.
- 28:51I submit also tractors could play a role.
- 28:54And there is a play for the Saame tractor company that also has a long history of
- 29:00being connected to Alfa Romeo because the, uh, Cassani brothers that formed
- 29:05Saame had previously formed Spica.
- 29:09Some of you may know the Italian equivalent of Bosch in fuel injection.
- 29:13And so these tractor guys, they needed for their diesel engines something to get
- 29:18the fuel into the combustion chambers.
- 29:20And since it was the autarky policy, they couldn't just go to Bosch
- 29:25in Stuttgart and get their stuff, they built their own version.
- 29:29And they got then into ERE and were delegated into the Alfa Romeo company.
- 29:36Fold in the 1930s, 1940s already because we're seeing that they were
- 29:41more relevant with their technology.
- 29:43Now, people that were coming from the tractor faculty did not match very
- 29:47well to the more structured corporate environment, and they left pretty soon and
- 29:52formed their own tractor company again, which became very successful and exists.
- 30:00So I put these elements together in some way because so far there's perhaps
- 30:05a good story if you believe that this Onione Automobili could come into being.
- 30:10But, of course, in every good story, you know, there are
- 30:13heroes and there are villains.
- 30:15I think a very obvious villain, kind of the white elephant in the room,
- 30:21Fiat would probably not sit still and say, Oh, this is nice, there's
- 30:24a new competitor being formed, and public money goes into that also.
- 30:29So somehow, Unione Automobili would have to create a new competitor.
- 30:32A competitive advantage that was compelling, particularly to
- 30:36the politicians of that time.
- 30:38Because Fiat had clout in the political space at the time,
- 30:43and had that for decades.
- 30:44So, one of the things Fiat was not terribly interested in was helping to
- 30:50sustain or to develop the Mezzogiorno.
- 30:54lower part of Italy, which was mostly an agrarian society with a
- 30:59lot of manual labor in agriculture.
- 31:02So, that's where the, um, slow development comes into play to gradually bring up the
- 31:09the technical capabilities and financial wherewithals in southern Italy, rather
- 31:14than putting some of these huge projects into place as had been done and was done
- 31:19later on with steelworks and so on, that became cathedrals in the desert that
- 31:24didn't really fit into the society yet.
- 31:26So I submit that having a tractor, a very simple one, this was first some
- 31:32tractor, later on they became much more sophisticated, it would help.
- 31:36You know, to transfer manual labor into mechanized forms of
- 31:41agriculture, it would free up labor.
- 31:43But you could also now bring some of the farm boys into mechanics,
- 31:48into working on vehicles on a very low level of complexity.
- 31:53And then later on you could grow that.
- 31:54So you could do something like Ford did when they had ramped
- 32:00up the Model T manufacturing.
- 32:04office assembly plants or branch assembly plants in different
- 32:08parts of the, uh, country.
- 32:10The building stands still there in Fargo, North Dakota.
- 32:13It's no longer used for its original purpose, obviously.
- 32:16It's a nicely converted office building.
- 32:18But they assembled parts that were shipped from Detroit to these remote areas and,
- 32:23and helped to reduce shipping costs for one thing, because when you ship
- 32:27old cars, you're shipping mostly air.
- 32:29They shipped some parts that came from the mothership, and then there was some
- 32:34local content gradually introduced.
- 32:36So when you do that, you have some more sustainable, gradual development
- 32:41of a more agrarian company.
- 32:43And frankly, people who come from the land, who see the progress that
- 32:48mechanization can bring, they will buy more into this, and they will,
- 32:52later on, become more productive.
- 32:53Good mechanics and good people that can assemble more
- 32:57complex vehicles in the South.
- 32:59So also when you own an automobile, you can leverage a state development
- 33:03funds that were available at the time.
- 33:06Casa Peril Mesojorno and the INA Casa for public housing could have been
- 33:12dipped into particularly if the political communication would have worked well.
- 33:16Now, what you need then for the leadership in this new would be
- 33:23somebody who's more politically astute, not somebody who is an engineer and
- 33:27loves cars and digs deeply into it.
- 33:29It's probably not the right person who can convince some of the politicians
- 33:33and political powers in place parties that it's in their best interest
- 33:38longer term to support this program.
- 33:40And so you find a person in Luigi Rosari who has been a long term leader
- 33:46within the Pirelli organization.
- 33:48He was responsible for the cable business in Pirelli, not so much for the tires.
- 33:52He was a person with a lot of soft skills.
- 33:55He had honed those during the transition when committees ruled these large
- 33:59corporations for a while in 1946.
- 34:03And so he had good experience in labor relations, which down the
- 34:07road would be He was very much about this gradual and sensible
- 34:13growth of the, uh, Netzer Journal.
- 34:15And so, now we look at the, uh, industrial supplier, the component supplier, and
- 34:21we check in a due diligence process.
- 34:25And the choice is pretty obvious.
- 34:27There are companies that have technical know how, like these folks
- 34:30that make frames for race cars.
- 34:32They're very specialized in that.
- 34:34They're very good at tubing and forming oval tubing and tapered tubing and so on.
- 34:39Gilco, Autotillai.
- 34:42But they also work for Ferrari and for Lancia and for whoever pays them.
- 34:46So, you don't want to really get them too close to what you're
- 34:50doing with your new concept.
- 34:51Olivetti is certainly interesting from a technology perspective,
- 34:55because they were getting into digital computation at that time already.
- 34:59the typewriter folks, obviously.
- 35:01Long term, they may be interesting, but short term, they were also a
- 35:04little bit of an utopian company.
- 35:07Pirelli, an obvious choice.
- 35:08Monte Cattini, a large chemical company, could play a role in, uh, that they
- 35:13wanted to get into the automotive industry so they could leverage, perhaps, this
- 35:17entry point, and that may be good.
- 35:18But, since we know that tires are so essential for the success of
- 35:22race cars, And Pirelli had a long term success with their Biosupply
- 35:27tires, conventional tires, in racing.
- 35:30They've won world championships up to that point.
- 35:33They also developed a radial tire already since 49.
- 35:37So that kind of prompts me to think.
- 35:40Why not introduce radial tires to racing, to Grand Prix racing,
- 35:45at this early point of entry?
- 35:46It would be doable, I think, and Pirelli would see benefits from doing that.
- 35:52It would become a centerpiece of their marketing campaign, that
- 35:55radial tires can work under the most harsh and demanding conditions.
- 35:59They would have enough skin in the game in this project, because if they
- 36:03lose, that doesn't look good for them.
- 36:05But, on the other hand, of course, these tires compared to the previous
- 36:10ones require a different driving style.
- 36:13So there is something to learn for the people that run these cars.
- 36:16In essence, the slip angle gets much smaller for a given lateral force.
- 36:20But Pirelli has the opportunity to become, also, one of Automobili's
- 36:25preferred tire supplier.
- 36:26There is a volume business in the background.
- 36:29And this is a depiction, obviously, of the, But we need a technical
- 36:35hand, so we switch scenes here and we go to Burton on Trent in the UK.
- 36:41You may ask, why do we do that?
- 36:43Well, there is an interesting person to be met.
- 36:47And that's, again, our friend Robert Everan Eberhorst, who was involved
- 36:51in the Auto Union activities.
- 36:52He also oversaw the Cisitalia construction in Torino.
- 36:56And he's being invited by the, uh for a chat.
- 37:01At the time he was in England, he worked as the chief engineer
- 37:05at Aston Martin, the company that was then owned by David Brown.
- 37:08He had been lured into England to work at ERA, but according to his
- 37:13own words, that proved to be a disaster, a real disappointment,
- 37:17because they didn't hire him.
- 37:18nearly have the resources that he was used to at Aston Martin who was much better.
- 37:23So the leadership of Unione Automobili talks him into coming back to
- 37:28Italy instead, leave this misery in England behind, and don't get tempted
- 37:33by this new Auto Unione because that's what he will do in reality.
- 37:37He will find that the really lower ranks in the company really don't
- 37:41like him, and even some of his peers on the upper echelon don't like him.
- 37:44despise him because he's a little bit too far out there for their taste.
- 37:50So, I'd suggest this new scenario has Evan Eberhorst become the technical
- 37:56director and responsible for the GP project at Uniona Automobili,
- 38:00and by doing that we combine this analytical spirit, the scientific.
- 38:07race car engineering with the passion of the Italians and with
- 38:10the willingness to experiment.
- 38:12The car concept is somewhat influenced by the Sissitalia 360.
- 38:16It's although less complex.
- 38:18For example, I don't think the four wheel drive solution was already appropriate.
- 38:23May never be in such a car, and I would place the gearbox behind the differential,
- 38:28behind the rear exalt, which would increase the, uh, polar moment of inertia
- 38:33in the your mode a bit, and would make the car a little bit more drivable.
- 38:36The seating position would be more reclined than in the cisitalia, which
- 38:40in a way was still old school, but it had already a good space frame.
- 38:44Use that we extend the cockpit so the driver can lean back a little bit.
- 38:49It makes a lot of sense to use a V six engine because luncher.
- 38:53And its fame was built around V6 engines.
- 38:56There were interesting engineers like the Virgilio, who came up with the
- 39:0060 degree equal firing order distance angle V6, which at the time was not
- 39:07well known or was not practiced.
- 39:09But he introduced that successfully to Lancia.
- 39:12And there were other folks from the Lancia team that would have been useful.
- 39:16I submit, of course, the engine would have been useful.
- 39:18It's a double overhead camshaft and it would have a
- 39:20speaker fuel injection system.
- 39:22You don't want to over freight a new project with too many
- 39:25features, that are new and unproven.
- 39:27So, for exploratory purposes, they should dabble with pneumatic valve
- 39:32springs to have an alternative to the decimotromic valve train that Mercedes
- 39:35had introduced, or would introduce.
- 39:37So, the V6.
- 39:40volume of two and a half liters, rated speed and piston speed in
- 39:44particular, was well within the realm of possibilities of that time.
- 39:50Uh, so I'm not exaggerating too much.
- 39:52This would be a pretty competitive project.
- 39:55It would be a good chance to introduce disc brakes.
- 39:59preferably from Gerling that were readily available and somewhat proven.
- 40:03The anti roll bar introduction to GP cars was long in coming and
- 40:08should be introduced here for sure.
- 40:11Then again, the exploration to future upgrades could be devoted to monocoque
- 40:16chassis and more importantly, to the introduction of aerodynamic downforce.
- 40:21Again, why did it take so long?
- 40:23From today's perspective it's easy to say when you were living in 52, 53 it
- 40:29was a little bit more of a stretch of imagination, but not totally uncalled for.
- 40:35John and Charles Cooper in England had been working on
- 40:38these Kinds of concepts already.
- 40:40And Connot had its own program going on.
- 40:43They were waiting for the Godiva Coventry climax engine to the V
- 40:47eight engine to become ready, and they would've put it into the back
- 40:51of their car, and it would've been a very interesting challenger.
- 40:54But Coventry Climax got cold feet.
- 40:56They thought the engine wasn't powerful enough.
- 40:58When they heard of 300 horsepower plus, the Mercedes would be
- 41:02delivering, which they never did.
- 41:03And so they decided to deep six their very impressive V8 engine program.
- 41:10Now, when you have so many unknown parts in your car, you
- 41:13want to de risk your project.
- 41:16And here I introduced another player.
- 41:19Rudolf Ruska, who had been working with, uh, SysItalia, with Porsche.
- 41:25So he was part of the inner team already.
- 41:28He would be tasked with providing a test mule.
- 41:31That would be a car that would not look like a Grand Prix car yet, but the
- 41:36underpinnings would be exactly that.
- 41:37And you could introduce new technologies.
- 41:41and expose the drivers to the new driving characteristics and working
- 41:45with disc brakes and radial tires.
- 41:47In a very disguised way, you could do data acquisition and learn about
- 41:52the optimization of this new package.
- 41:54So, he was a good player for doing that.
- 41:56He had good connections to Carrocerías.
- 41:59Turing had already worked for Montecatini, previously mentioned,
- 42:03on this little prototype with a resin fiberglass combination bodywork.
- 42:09So we suggest they should just do something like this and use
- 42:12that as the test and run it in Monza and on other tracks.
- 42:16And Ursga will later on lead a project that will unify the
- 42:22platforms of the Giulietta of Romeo and the Appia of Lancia.
- 42:26It's a safe cost to get economies of scale, and this
- 42:29project should be successful.
- 42:31Now, we talk about advanced aerodynamics, and when we think of
- 42:35wings, we think that's something that happened very recently with Chaparral
- 42:39and Jim Hall, or maybe Michael May in Switzerland in the mid fifties.
- 42:43But in the late thirties, when Mercedes wanted to build this T 80 world record
- 42:49car, they had already experimented.
- 42:51This was, again, a design of, uh, engineering firm.
- 42:56They had already dabbled with the thought of wings, fixed
- 42:59wings, even movable flaps here.
- 43:02And this is all discoverable in late open patent applications and
- 43:07patents that were accessible to people, certainly in the 1950s.
- 43:12So this fellow here, Joseph Mikkel was a founding member of the Porsche
- 43:17engineering team in Stuttgart.
- 43:20His background was aeronautical and mechanical engineering, and he had a
- 43:24specific interest in the aerodynamics.
- 43:26So, these patents are very interesting to read and very visionary.
- 43:31Because we need also drivers, obviously, in order to make
- 43:33this a successful project.
- 43:36And here I propose that Alberto Ascari is undisputable the best
- 43:40choice to be driver number one.
- 43:42He was the world champion in 52 53, and he left Ferrari not for Lancia, as in
- 43:49real life, But, yeah, he comes to Unione Automobili and will be their star driver.
- 43:55Most likely will not have a splash in the Monaco harbor, and he'll have no reason
- 44:01to drive a sports car of Ferraris on May 26th, 1955, where he fatally crashes.
- 44:08And the second one, just briefly to round this out, we learn from the Rosemeyer
- 44:13experience and bring in somebody.
- 44:15From the motorcycle faculty, a two time world champion that was proven on 500cc
- 44:23motorcycles, Shillera, he won two titles.
- 44:26And so he would be an interesting addition to the team because he would bring a
- 44:30different driving experience with him.
- 44:32And that's it.
- 44:33Analog to Gantt Rosemeyer, he may be able to deal with these rear
- 44:37engined cars better or mid engined cars better than, say, drivers that
- 44:42were used to the conventional ones.
- 44:44Anyway, so at the end, the happy end is Ascari will not
- 44:48win the 1954 World Championship.
- 44:50That would be too much of a stretch.
- 44:52We leave that to Fangio.
- 44:54And, but he's a close second and Massetti happens to win one Grand
- 45:00Prix, British one, that was a bit of an aberration, bad weather conditions, etc.
- 45:05So that's pretty much the framework of this story.
- 45:09It brings together.
- 45:10And, uh, The Italian element and some of the Germanic, which is
- 45:14mostly Austrian, to be honest.
- 45:15A lot of the good automotive engineers that work in Germany come from
- 45:19Austria or from former Czechoslovakia.
- 45:21That happened here too.
- 45:22So it's this combination that could accelerate a rear engine
- 45:27or mid engine revolution.
- 45:29Give it to you to, uh, criticize that or tell me I'm totally out of
- 45:33hundred pages and with real sources.
- 45:36So this is not all just out of thin air.
- 45:39So it has some.
- 45:40Some validity and maybe some believability, but I leave it up to
- 45:44you as the much more experienced folks.
- 45:47A very different approach to all that history in an action.
- 45:50Thank you.
- 45:50That was really great.
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