Latest / Cuff’s Basement / Stone Cold part 2
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- 3:22Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Stone Cult podcast with hosted by
- 3:29Speaker 1: Andrew Kelly woh guest starring Ryan and his friend Tim.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Up and right in the basement heat.
- 3:45Speaker 3: We got it.
- 3:47Speaker 1: That's goddamn right. So where we left off as they
- 3:52Speaker 1: were rejoining at their wonderful biker Fortress. So Ryan, why
- 3:56Speaker 1: don't you describe the biker fortress because you seemed amused
- 3:59Speaker 1: by it.
- 4:03Speaker 3: This is when this movie was going to next level.
- 4:08Speaker 3: They arrive at what looks at first like apocalypse fortress shack,
- 4:17Speaker 3: and there's just a bunch of bikers just hanging out,
- 4:20Speaker 3: laughing at each other. There's just bizarrely these women showers
- 4:25Speaker 3: in the middle of the front yard, just women naked showering,
- 4:31Speaker 3: And just the most insane thing I think I've ever
- 4:35Speaker 3: seen is in the middle of this montage, they just
- 4:38Speaker 3: show a kid pushing a stroller, just walking right across
- 4:42Speaker 3: the screen, and I was like, and he's not like
- 4:44Speaker 3: dressed as like one of the bikers, nor does the
- 4:46Speaker 3: stroll like it's part of the biker So I was like,
- 4:48Speaker 3: this kid just ended up in the wrong neighborhood and
- 4:50Speaker 3: was just like cutting through. It was the most random.
- 4:52Speaker 3: I was like, what I legit rewound it. I was like,
- 4:55Speaker 3: what is this kid doing here? Like it made no sense.
- 4:59Speaker 1: And the the Walking Dead like when society has failed.
- 5:03Speaker 1: They at some point they come across a prison that
- 5:06Speaker 1: like survivors have taken over because it's a good spot
- 5:09Speaker 1: to defend from the zombie apocalypse. That's what this is.
- 5:13Speaker 1: But it's just like they legitimately have it surrounded in
- 5:17Speaker 1: barbed wire with guard towers, and there are bikers standing
- 5:21Speaker 1: sniper guard with guns. Where are the cops? You can
- 5:28Speaker 1: you can't, you can't do this. You can't do it,
- 5:30Speaker 1: And like all of these men are psychopaths. They're drunk.
- 5:34Speaker 1: They're shooting and fighting each other and stabbing each other.
- 5:37Speaker 1: But they're disgusting. They're fat, hairy bikers, ugly beards, and
- 5:44Speaker 1: there's just a group shower in the middle of the
- 5:46Speaker 1: yard of all playboy play mates. Like these women are
- 5:51Speaker 1: gorgeous and they're not like biker chicks. They're like, you know,
- 5:56Speaker 1: like I said last episode, Miss April nineteen eighty nine,
- 6:00Speaker 1: what are you doing there? Where is your dad? Like
- 6:04Speaker 1: what was your upbringing?
- 6:05Speaker 3: Like?
- 6:05Speaker 1: What is wrong with you? I'm just gonna share. He's
- 6:09Speaker 1: in the Brotherhood. I'm just gonna shower here in front
- 6:12Speaker 1: of everyone.
- 6:15Speaker 2: I think it's a loyal environment. It's like, you know,
- 6:20Speaker 2: a family environment. People feel safe there. Chains has built
- 6:24Speaker 2: a culture of family and our color still run.
- 6:29Speaker 3: Are you Are you hiring for the Brotherhood? Yes?
- 6:32Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think. I can't remember what branch
- 6:35Speaker 1: of the military, but there was a branch of the
- 6:37Speaker 1: service that adopted the slogan from this movie God Forgives.
- 6:42Speaker 1: The Brotherhood doesn't. But then but then they internally they
- 6:46Speaker 1: were like, this is based on a neo Nazi biker gang.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Let's let's not do this. But they are. They're Nazis.
- 6:54Speaker 1: There's Nazi flags with Swatsika's everywhere, so it's more like
- 6:58Speaker 1: the Arian Brotherhood. And in this hangout, Ice again says
- 7:05Speaker 1: I don't trust to one. I think he's a cop,
- 7:07Speaker 1: and I wrote ice equals correct. Uh, And we see
- 7:12Speaker 1: Max's dad from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Yeah, he's
- 7:17Speaker 1: just the sketchiest person on earth, so it's it's just
- 7:20Speaker 1: natural to cast him as a biker. But he's one
- 7:22Speaker 1: of the members of the gang and they're watching a bit.
- 7:27Speaker 1: Oh sorry, go ahead, Ryan.
- 7:28Speaker 3: He's also one year, I think one year later in
- 7:32Speaker 3: the Red Triangle Gang in Batman Returns a Baby.
- 7:37Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely forgot about that. Uh sorry. Stone shows
- 7:48Speaker 1: up to the compound, has a gift for Chains and Andrew,
- 7:53Speaker 1: what is the gift? Same thing I got you as
- 7:56Speaker 1: your best man.
- 7:56Speaker 2: Gift, by the way, bulletproof vest.
- 7:59Speaker 1: God damn right. And then what is how does Chains
- 8:03Speaker 1: receive it? What does he do?
- 8:06Speaker 2: Chains? You know, Chains is a jovial guy. He's laughing,
- 8:09Speaker 2: just having fun. He says, put on the vest. Put
- 8:11Speaker 2: on the vest. Stone, Stone puts it on, and Chain
- 8:14Speaker 2: shoots him and the boss goes flying back over table.
- 8:21Speaker 2: And then this is this is probably my favorite part,
- 8:24Speaker 2: is when the boss takes takes Chains and says, don't
- 8:28Speaker 2: play games with me, Chains, because Stone is clearly playing
- 8:32Speaker 2: games with him. So it's a little bit calling the
- 8:37Speaker 2: tea kettle whatever.
- 8:39Speaker 1: I understand the peacocking of trying to join a gang,
- 8:42Speaker 1: and be a bad ass. But you like you can.
- 8:45Speaker 1: You know, Slim Charles is a badass in the wire.
- 8:48Speaker 1: He's not gonna go up and like punch Evan on
- 8:50Speaker 1: the face to show how coffee is. That's just a
- 8:53Speaker 1: bad idea. So I don't think Joe really knows what
- 8:55Speaker 1: he's doing here. But you did text me don't ever
- 8:59Speaker 1: mess with me. Changed, So I wanted you to describe
- 9:01Speaker 1: that scene. But I did appreciate the realism of him
- 9:05Speaker 1: being shot with the bulletproof vest because a lot of
- 9:06Speaker 1: movies it's like you're getting shot with a paintball gun
- 9:09Speaker 1: if you wear a bulletproof vest but this movie is like, no,
- 9:13Speaker 1: you get rocked if you get shot with a bulletproof
- 9:16Speaker 1: vest on, which is realistic.
- 9:19Speaker 3: Plus, this entire has set up that anytime a person
- 9:24Speaker 3: falls or is punched, you're getting rocketed back sixty plus
- 9:27Speaker 3: feet easily. Yes, doesn't matter what it is. Yeah.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:32Speaker 1: And change is basically like, so this guy Whip is
- 9:37Speaker 1: the he's run Is he running for governor?
- 9:39Speaker 3: Or?
- 9:39Speaker 1: Is he? Is he the governor?
- 9:41Speaker 3: I believe he is the governor, right, That's what I thought.
- 9:44Speaker 1: Okay, So Whip wants to this biker that got forty
- 9:47Speaker 1: five years in prison for murdering a priest baptizing a baby.
- 9:51Speaker 1: He I can't believe I said that sentence. He they're like,
- 9:55Speaker 1: we gotta kill. They're basically indicating like, oh, we gotta
- 9:57Speaker 1: kill Whip. So Chang is like, you know what, man
- 10:01Speaker 1: to Stone, I really like you. I want you to
- 10:06Speaker 1: be in the gang. We're gonna kill. This is the
- 10:08Speaker 1: governor of this of Mississippi. And then Joe says, Joe
- 10:12Speaker 1: is Johnstone, Joel Huff, Brian Bosworth. Joe says, what's in
- 10:17Speaker 1: it for me? Which is a very fair question, And
- 10:20Speaker 1: do you remember the answer?
- 10:24Speaker 3: Colors?
- 10:25Speaker 2: Yeah, colors, colors.
- 10:27Speaker 1: Man, colors man. The jacket of the gang.
- 10:31Speaker 2: Is why the loyalty of the gang.
- 10:36Speaker 1: The jacket of the gang has an SS logo on it.
- 10:38Speaker 1: Another yikes, and Chain says, if these colors hit the ground,
- 10:45Speaker 1: even in a fight, I will peel your skin off
- 10:47Speaker 1: with a knife. Knife dipped and shit, great line.
- 10:51Speaker 3: That maybe you laught so hard. It was just so yeah.
- 10:56Speaker 1: And I thought I really would love a scene of
- 11:00Speaker 1: like Stone is leaving somewhere and he just falls off
- 11:03Speaker 1: his motorcycle, looks like a big idiot, just stand out
- 11:06Speaker 1: so badly.
- 11:08Speaker 2: Uh, dunking it off afraid of Shade seeing it.
- 11:15Speaker 1: He can't he can't even ride one. All right, Well,
- 11:20Speaker 1: I just I just asked for Ryan's permission. I'm gonna
- 11:22Speaker 1: I want Ryan to tell the story of when Ryan
- 11:26Speaker 1: which I was totally against this because Paul talked about
- 11:28Speaker 1: this too for a while, of like getting a motorcycle,
- 11:31Speaker 1: and as total I just think motorcycles are I worked
- 11:34Speaker 1: in insurance. Motorcycles are stupidly dangerous and I've gotten in
- 11:38Speaker 1: arguments to people about it, and it's there's nothing to
- 11:41Speaker 1: do with the motorcycle rider. Because I handled a claim
- 11:43Speaker 1: where the motorcycle rider was one hundred percent in the right.
- 11:46Speaker 1: They were not speeding, they were wearing a helmet, they
- 11:49Speaker 1: have the right of way, they're being super safe. Motorcycle
- 11:52Speaker 1: guy was zero percent in the wrong and a car
- 11:56Speaker 1: darted out in front of him. If he was in
- 11:58Speaker 1: a car at the motorcycle rider, he would have been fine,
- 12:01Speaker 1: but he ended up because this dumb ass cut in
- 12:04Speaker 1: front of him. He lost his leg and he was
- 12:06Speaker 1: like twenty five years old. So it has nothing to
- 12:09Speaker 1: do with how good of a motorcycle rider you are.
- 12:11Speaker 1: People are stupid and you're just putting your life at
- 12:14Speaker 1: unnecessary risk. But Ryan decided this is a real story
- 12:19Speaker 1: by the way, that he was gonna get his motorcycle license.
- 12:22Speaker 1: So Ryan, I will let you take it from here.
- 12:24Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah. So there was a training class based in Framingham.
- 12:29Speaker 3: When you finished the class and you can get your license,
- 12:32Speaker 3: they actually will test you that day. It's like Bounty
- 12:35Speaker 3: Hunter School and King of the Hill. So I did
- 12:42Speaker 3: the training class and test and completely butchered it. I
- 12:46Speaker 3: could not, for the life of me think about it
- 12:48Speaker 3: now and still can't wrap my head around it. The
- 12:50Speaker 3: controls of the bike in terms of handling, throttle, everything
- 12:55Speaker 3: could knock get my head around it. And everybody else
- 12:58Speaker 3: in this class clearly had been riding for sometime. So
- 13:02Speaker 3: I think I fell over on the bike maybe four times,
- 13:05Speaker 3: and it's very heavy, just the heads up. So uh,
- 13:09Speaker 3: they were like okay, And the guy was an absolute saint,
- 13:12Speaker 3: and he was just like he's like hey man, He's
- 13:15Speaker 3: like hey, you know, it's like I just don't think
- 13:18Speaker 3: this is going to work. And I was like, oh, yeah,
- 13:20Speaker 3: you're right. He's like, yeah, I don't. I don't think
- 13:23Speaker 3: you should ever do this.
- 13:24Speaker 1: And I was like, don't don't ever ride a motorcycle.
- 13:27Speaker 1: We don't want to give you a license.
- 13:29Speaker 3: And you know, I was like, I was like, that's
- 13:31Speaker 3: I said. I'm learning that lesson the hard way. He's like, yeah,
- 13:34Speaker 3: what are you gonna do? No worries. They very nicely
- 13:36Speaker 3: do the credit. Didn't have to do this, but gave
- 13:38Speaker 3: me my money.
- 13:38Speaker 1: Back, which was they could.
- 13:41Speaker 3: Have been like, you wasted your own time, it's your
- 13:43Speaker 3: own fault. They very kindly called me after, okay, we'll
- 13:45Speaker 3: give your money back. They probably were more like, just
- 13:48Speaker 3: don't get on the bike. We'll give your money back.
- 13:50Speaker 3: Just on a bike.
- 13:51Speaker 2: But uh, lesson learned and spurred you to do it.
- 13:56Speaker 1: Like what did you just know?
- 14:00Speaker 3: It was twenty It was summer of twenty eighteen or seventeen.
- 14:05Speaker 3: I had heard about it and I was like, oh,
- 14:07Speaker 3: something I always wanted to do. My dad rode one
- 14:11Speaker 3: when he was younger and then got one in like
- 14:14Speaker 3: his mid forties and then rode for like ten years.
- 14:17Speaker 3: So I was like, okay, why not? And then I
- 14:22Speaker 3: don't know what. I just saw the class. The class
- 14:24Speaker 3: was I think it was only like three hundred bucks.
- 14:27Speaker 3: It wasn't bad, so I was like, Okay, getting the
- 14:30Speaker 3: permit is literally just like a written test, like you
- 14:33Speaker 3: would like a like a regular license test. Once you
- 14:36Speaker 3: were a permit, by the way, you can ride on
- 14:39Speaker 3: your own.
- 14:39Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 14:40Speaker 3: So it's like I was like, oh, this must not
- 14:42Speaker 3: be meeting, like, this must not be that hard, right,
- 14:45Speaker 3: there's gonna let you do it. So yeah, which was
- 14:49Speaker 3: probably the obviously the wrong lesson to learn there, but yeah,
- 14:52Speaker 3: I don't know, I think about that. I don't know why.
- 14:55Speaker 3: It was like, oh, it should be cool to do
- 14:56Speaker 3: and the class and only a weekend, so it was
- 14:58Speaker 3: like a huge commitment. And that was of course completely
- 15:01Speaker 3: not thinking about, yes, you should be riding and practicing
- 15:04Speaker 3: on your own, like oh, they'll teach me to ride
- 15:05Speaker 3: and I'll be fine. They'll give you a license in
- 15:07Speaker 3: five hours. Yeah. Yeah, so that's an idiocy and haven't Yeah.
- 15:15Speaker 2: My dad did it too, like he was practicing in
- 15:18Speaker 2: the backyard, like and I remember like he was trying
- 15:21Speaker 2: to get a permit or so he was practicing and
- 15:24Speaker 2: the bike kept he kept like falling over, and I
- 15:26Speaker 2: remember like I would go out and like help lift
- 15:27Speaker 2: the bike, and I was like, why are you doing this?
- 15:32Speaker 2: I don't remember it was like I want to I
- 15:34Speaker 2: want to learn how to do it. And I was like, okay,
- 15:37Speaker 2: likes heavy. Yeah he learned. Yeah, I think he got
- 15:41Speaker 2: the I think he got the permit, not the license.
- 15:43Speaker 2: And Rent said like, I think you can ride with it.
- 15:46Speaker 1: Yeah, so but it was.
- 15:49Speaker 2: It wasn't like all the time riding after that, just
- 15:52Speaker 2: like recreational.
- 15:53Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's it. I just yeah, sorry, I think
- 15:56Speaker 1: it's idiotic. Also, if you think Sons of Anarchy, maybe not,
- 16:03Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's a bad show because
- 16:04Speaker 1: I love the cast of Sons of Anarchy. There's a
- 16:07Speaker 1: lot of really good actors in it. If you think
- 16:10Speaker 1: Sons of Anarchy is cool, like the Gang is cool,
- 16:15Speaker 1: Jacks is cool. You ever had like a Sons of
- 16:19Speaker 1: Belichick shirt? You are a loser. Loser I talk about
- 16:26Speaker 1: WAF people like WAF people would love Sons of Anarchy.
- 16:32Speaker 1: You are a complete I remember I was like, I
- 16:34Speaker 1: heard this show is really great. There's lots of great
- 16:36Speaker 1: actors in it. I watched the first episode and there's
- 16:39Speaker 1: a scene where some random dude just gets on Jackson's
- 16:43Speaker 1: bike in the parking lot. It's like, oh, look, I'm
- 16:45Speaker 1: on this boy to his girlfriend and then Jackson's like,
- 16:48Speaker 1: don't ever sit in another man's bike, and I thought,
- 16:51Speaker 1: I'm never gonna watch this again. That's the stupidest thing
- 16:54Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Anyways, that was.
- 16:58Speaker 3: You doing that. You were the guy in the bike.
- 17:00Speaker 3: That is you? That is you.
- 17:03Speaker 2: Ah.
- 17:04Speaker 1: So after Joe.
- 17:08Speaker 3: Like, what is anybody from this movie in Sons of Anarchy?
- 17:15Speaker 1: I don't think so.
- 17:17Speaker 3: Then they made a huge mistake like what are we doing?
- 17:19Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I don't think so. It's kind of it's
- 17:24Speaker 1: kind of too big of a gap really. I mean,
- 17:26Speaker 1: like Ron Pearlman is old, but everybody in Sons of
- 17:29Speaker 1: Anarchy is kind of one of the dudes that I
- 17:32Speaker 1: think is in Sons of Anarchy that was in Brave Heart,
- 17:35Speaker 1: is in the new season of House of the Dragon,
- 17:39Speaker 1: that like Scottish guy that has a scar in his face.
- 17:42Speaker 1: You'd recognize him Ryan.
- 17:44Speaker 3: Yes he was. Yes, he's ind a lot of stuff. Actually, yeah, yeah, you.
- 17:49Speaker 2: Think I was gonna say, do you think this is
- 17:53Speaker 2: like one of the worst gangs you could join? Spiker
- 17:56Speaker 2: gang like in like, I don't know that Ax cult.
- 18:02Speaker 2: That's more of a cult from Cobra. I don't want
- 18:04Speaker 2: to join that either. But this is like a gang
- 18:07Speaker 2: I don't like.
- 18:08Speaker 1: You know, if you want to get really intense, there's
- 18:10Speaker 1: you know, liberation armies in like the Congo where they
- 18:13Speaker 1: make you, they give you a gun, they make you
- 18:15Speaker 1: like kill a kid. I mean, sure, I'd rather do
- 18:18Speaker 1: this biker gang. But but no, this biker gang is terrible.
- 18:24Speaker 3: They lost their spirit. They originally were about one thing
- 18:27Speaker 3: and now they're about another. The Axe Cult just seemed
- 18:30Speaker 3: to like to cheer around fire, so they probably would
- 18:33Speaker 3: be a little bit easier to get into.
- 18:34Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot about Yeah what I'd rather be in
- 18:39Speaker 1: the biker gang and the Axe Cult. They were in
- 18:41Speaker 1: Cobra where they were too serious. They didn't party. They're
- 18:47Speaker 1: more about like Satan than anything.
- 18:51Speaker 3: Do anything like the one him they ever showed them.
- 18:52Speaker 3: They were just all running in a circle, like.
- 18:54Speaker 1: Yeah, chanting around fire is the way you described that.
- 19:00Speaker 1: This fucking genius so Stone, after he falls off his motorcycle,
- 19:07Speaker 1: he gets up and he starts acting all tough, and
- 19:09Speaker 1: I realized he just pissed his pants, but he just
- 19:11Speaker 1: plays it off like it didn't happen.
- 19:14Speaker 3: That's the story of me riding.
- 19:20Speaker 1: We'll see you the embarrassed embarrassment.
- 19:21Speaker 2: Do you think the motorcycle it looks like Stone's riding
- 19:24Speaker 2: a tricycle. To me, he's way too big. He's just
- 19:27Speaker 2: so big for the Blake, It's like he's little.
- 19:29Speaker 1: Yeah, he's jacked.
- 19:31Speaker 3: That might have been I think. So.
- 19:35Speaker 1: I actually this movie happened in real life and I
- 19:39Speaker 1: googled it and it happened in real life after the
- 19:42Speaker 1: movie came out. So there's a famous story. It's a
- 19:45Speaker 1: book called Under and Alone, and it's about an actual
- 19:48Speaker 1: ATF agent named William Queen who infiltrated the Mongols Motorcycle Club.
- 19:54Speaker 1: But this was in like nineteen ninety eight, so this
- 19:57Speaker 1: actually happened but after and it had a better end result.
- 20:02Speaker 1: But the next party they did in real life. So
- 20:07Speaker 1: in real life they suspected this guy, William Queen, was
- 20:10Speaker 1: a cop, so they asked him to kill a guy
- 20:12Speaker 1: and they the ATF, the government staged it so it
- 20:17Speaker 1: actually looked like he did kill the guy, which is
- 20:20Speaker 1: like sod was the government? Like where agents? Like, what
- 20:23Speaker 1: do we do? Somebody's like I know just what to
- 20:26Speaker 1: do and they just pop in a VHS of Stone Gold.
- 20:30Speaker 3: I don't know, but we should do this.
- 20:34Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they just ship off the guy and they
- 20:38Speaker 2: don't supervise him for like a period of time. It's
- 20:40Speaker 2: just like we're gonna sending a plane and yeah, just
- 20:42Speaker 2: please don't come back.
- 20:43Speaker 1: Well, so so change to explain to the listeners, Chains
- 20:46Speaker 1: tells Joe or Stone as a test, we need you
- 20:50Speaker 1: to kill a guy and you'll recognize him because he
- 20:52Speaker 1: has a spider web tattoo on his ear. I really
- 20:55Speaker 1: enjoyed the way Stone goes about confronting him in a club.
- 21:00Speaker 1: And this this dude, he's a biker kind of he's
- 21:04Speaker 1: like a drug dealer. He might be, I don't know,
- 21:07Speaker 1: but he's gross. He looks like a rat and he
- 21:11Speaker 1: has long, greasy hair, and he's like coked up in
- 21:14Speaker 1: a club and he's with his girlfriend, who is beautiful.
- 21:18Speaker 1: Of course, of course he's just a tent. She's like
- 21:22Speaker 1: Denise and Roadhouse, who's the most beautiful woman of all time.
- 21:26Speaker 1: But do you remember like how this goes down in
- 21:29Speaker 1: the club when he confronts the spiderweb bear tattoo guy.
- 21:34Speaker 3: He's like, people are like celebrating because the guy did
- 21:37Speaker 3: a good job dancing in the club, and then he
- 21:40Speaker 3: gets over insists of the bar next or he stands
- 21:42Speaker 3: at the bar next to Stone and so I'm like, man,
- 21:45Speaker 3: that was really like incredible, like you did an amazing job,
- 21:49Speaker 3: Like you're so good at this. And then the guy
- 21:52Speaker 3: realized that Stone is messing with him, so he's like,
- 21:55Speaker 3: what's this all about? Man, He's like, should take about
- 21:58Speaker 3: and he's like okay, and then Stone just crushes his
- 22:02Speaker 3: head to the bar like three times. This guy is
- 22:06Speaker 3: also the guy he's doing this too, is not large.
- 22:08Speaker 3: So he just murdered.
- 22:09Speaker 2: Man.
- 22:10Speaker 3: He just murdered this guy. There's no way he survived this.
- 22:13Speaker 3: And the guy is just like, oh, come on man,
- 22:16Speaker 3: and then they just he just carries them out unconscious
- 22:19Speaker 3: and he's like, hey, everyone, nothing to see here, and
- 22:20Speaker 3: he just like walks right out. Yeah.
- 22:23Speaker 2: Stone looks really good in the club. You know, he
- 22:25Speaker 2: had his he had his hair done, he had his
- 22:28Speaker 2: club look. You know that was yeah, Stone Stone giving
- 22:34Speaker 2: it to the the people.
- 22:36Speaker 1: I mean, let's call a spade a spade. He's he's
- 22:38Speaker 1: an attractive Man's.
- 22:41Speaker 3: Stone hot, not Stone cold?
- 22:43Speaker 1: Oh Ryan? And yeah. Yeah. So basically they're like the
- 22:50Speaker 1: the FBI just takes this man and ships him away
- 22:54Speaker 1: and then they cut an ear off of a corpse
- 22:57Speaker 1: and they bring it to a tattoo plar parlor and
- 22:59Speaker 1: somebody tattoos is spider web on it and then Stone
- 23:01Speaker 1: just comes back and throws the ear at them as
- 23:04Speaker 1: like here you go, and Chane says, basically, I told
- 23:08Speaker 1: you to Ice, like Stone's legit, I still doesn't believe him. Next,
- 23:15Speaker 1: there is a member of the gang named Tool. They'll
- 23:19Speaker 1: notice a theme with these just really short, simple noun names.
- 23:24Speaker 1: And the Italian Mafia is a rival of this biker
- 23:28Speaker 1: gang and they essentially blow up Tool.
- 23:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 23:35Speaker 1: Is there any way to describe it other than that.
- 23:37Speaker 3: Yeah, The biker gang is collecting on the mafia's block
- 23:41Speaker 3: and the Mafia is like, please stop doing this, So
- 23:45Speaker 3: they throw a grenade, the Mafia grenade in broad daylight
- 23:50Speaker 3: at Tool and blow them up. Yeah.
- 23:53Speaker 1: Yeah. Afterwards, Tool obviously almost dies. He should be dead,
- 23:56Speaker 1: but he's like horribly disfigured his face. Yeah, yeah, you
- 24:02Speaker 1: got like limbs blown off. He's in the hospital and
- 24:05Speaker 1: gotta say, the brotherhood they show up for Tool in
- 24:08Speaker 1: this moment. They all go to the hospital and Tools like,
- 24:12Speaker 1: you know, I want to die, please kill me, and
- 24:15Speaker 1: Chains points out your Penis was not injured, like legitimately,
- 24:19Speaker 1: it's like that's you know, not all is lost. And
- 24:24Speaker 1: then they give him Jack Daniels, a pizza and a
- 24:28Speaker 1: woman like forcefully as property. So that's not good, but
- 24:33Speaker 1: uh they still you know, it's a nice gesture for
- 24:36Speaker 1: your injured friend, Cuffs.
- 24:40Speaker 2: If you're ever going through something, Cuff like, I can
- 24:42Speaker 2: show up and give you that same speech.
- 24:45Speaker 1: If you show up in my hospital then with Jamison,
- 24:49Speaker 1: pizza and a hot prostitute. I'm like, I'd be like,
- 24:52Speaker 1: thank you, Andy, I mean what else? What else is
- 24:54Speaker 1: there to say?
- 24:56Speaker 3: And Andy's saying what Shane says to that woman and
- 25:00Speaker 3: would be unbelievable to hear.
- 25:09Speaker 1: Oh, then this is this if I was in the
- 25:14Speaker 1: FBI here so as revenge. This the guy who blew
- 25:18Speaker 1: up tools named Dmiti. So the other Italian mobsters are
- 25:24Speaker 1: at dinner and Chains and Stone show up with a
- 25:30Speaker 1: gift and it's Dmiti's severed head. So it's like, hey, Stone,
- 25:36Speaker 1: so report back on your mission. Yeah it went good today.
- 25:40Speaker 1: So we were like, we showed up, we talked to
- 25:41Speaker 1: the Italian mob We had Dumiti's severed head in a box,
- 25:45Speaker 1: and we gave it to him. Wait a minute, what
- 25:47Speaker 1: you were physically carrying a severed head today? It's like, yeah, undercover.
- 25:54Speaker 3: Yeah, I had no clue. Yeah, I just didn't know.
- 25:57Speaker 3: So you're in this case and you're not paying attention.
- 26:00Speaker 3: That's good. Uh.
- 26:02Speaker 1: And the and the Italian mob is so intimidated by
- 26:05Speaker 1: this that they're just like, okay, we'll be cool now.
- 26:08Speaker 1: I didn't really get that.
- 26:12Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that it was the idea
- 26:15Speaker 3: of like we were we're already insane. We will go
- 26:19Speaker 3: far than you will go. Like you think you're upping
- 26:21Speaker 3: the ante. You can't. Again, we're we're thinking about this
- 26:25Speaker 3: more than the writers are. But I think it's kind
- 26:27Speaker 3: of how the visual was going.
- 26:30Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 26:31Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this was when they introduced the PTO
- 26:34Speaker 3: P deal.
- 26:36Speaker 1: So what the fuck is P twop? Why are they
- 26:38Speaker 1: calling it that.
- 26:41Speaker 3: It's a newer it's a better version of PSP? I
- 26:43Speaker 3: don't know. Is it one of those yes system?
- 26:48Speaker 1: Is that just like one of those drugs that people,
- 26:52Speaker 1: Oh it is P two P math is a highly
- 26:54Speaker 1: potent synthetic form of math pedal to propa, known meth amphetamine. Okay,
- 27:02Speaker 1: it's math, Okay, good.
- 27:03Speaker 2: To know yeah, you gotta know these things cuff.
- 27:06Speaker 1: Sorry sorry, I mean I'm not as tight with ice
- 27:09Speaker 1: as you are. And uh, the the the governor whip
- 27:18Speaker 1: is like the brotherhood this biker getting is out of control.
- 27:21Speaker 1: They're you know, they're having you know, explosions with the
- 27:24Speaker 1: Italian mafia in the street. So I'm gonna call in
- 27:27Speaker 1: the National Guard. So Change's response is to kidnap and
- 27:31Speaker 1: murder two National guardsmen in cold blood. And I wrote
- 27:35Speaker 1: there'd be a lot of heat on Chains for this.
- 27:39Speaker 1: Have you kidnapped a member two members of the military
- 27:44Speaker 1: while they are serving in uniform and murder them.
- 27:48Speaker 3: It's it's just like this is where it's like, Okay,
- 27:51Speaker 3: this whole thing is not gonna go well, it's just
- 27:53Speaker 3: like this is not gonna This is where they's not losing.
- 27:57Speaker 2: Like Chains knows what he's doing, guys.
- 28:00Speaker 3: I mean, based on the ending, it's kind of like
- 28:06Speaker 3: he kind of did it kind of did And also
- 28:09Speaker 3: I think maybe he thought he would be ruler of
- 28:11Speaker 3: the Earth. By the way of ending, it just seemed
- 28:18Speaker 3: kind of weird. But this is when this is when
- 28:21Speaker 3: Gut is like, hey, man, like that's not what this
- 28:23Speaker 3: is about. Like those guys had nothing to do with this.
- 28:26Speaker 3: And then also, we haven't talked about her since because like,
- 28:30Speaker 3: like and he said, a lot of the characters just
- 28:32Speaker 3: vanished for a while and don't really come back until
- 28:34Speaker 3: they're needed. But uh uh, his girlfriend, Nancy, who he
- 28:38Speaker 3: called cockroach earlier.
- 28:40Speaker 1: Yeah, this girlfriend, she's like, this is too.
- 28:43Speaker 3: Far for us, Like, we don't do this, like just
- 28:46Speaker 3: killing innocent guys and.
- 28:48Speaker 1: Says, yeah. Gut's like, I'm all down for this gang,
- 28:51Speaker 1: but I don't want to kidnap and murder in cold
- 28:54Speaker 1: blood two members of the military just doing their duty exactly.
- 28:58Speaker 3: Yeah. So he's like, I'm gonna leave. So he's like,
- 29:01Speaker 3: get on your bike and leave and start your bike.
- 29:04Speaker 3: And then Chains puts guts hand through the bike wheel
- 29:09Speaker 3: spokes and lose his fingers, and I was like, oh no.
- 29:15Speaker 1: He says, God forgives, but the Brotherhood doesn't. That's what
- 29:18Speaker 1: what Joe says in response to Gut getting his fingers
- 29:21Speaker 1: chopped off by his motorcycle, which you can never ride
- 29:24Speaker 1: a motorcycle again if you don't have fingers, right, that's
- 29:27Speaker 1: it up. That's that's messed up.
- 29:34Speaker 3: But we also actually even before that happens, the soldiers.
- 29:39Speaker 3: Ice before that is like, hey, chains mine, which maybe
- 29:43Speaker 3: makes sense because he kills the soldiers after it, but
- 29:45Speaker 3: he's like, you are not listening to me. This guy
- 29:47Speaker 3: is a cop. There's just no other everything here is
- 29:54Speaker 3: a cop. He is a cop. And Chang's like, you're crazy, man.
- 29:57Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like h sorry, Ice like yeah, please please,
- 30:01Speaker 1: I've been telling you this entire movie. He is obviously
- 30:05Speaker 1: a cop, obviously, and uh, there's a point where what
- 30:10Speaker 1: is he doing He's getting lunched with Nancy, right or
- 30:15Speaker 1: does he like like Stone kisses Nancy and is like
- 30:19Speaker 1: why don't you run away with me? Or something?
- 30:21Speaker 3: Right? Yes, because I think after they killed the military,
- 30:25Speaker 3: she's kind of standing on a round because she's like, oh,
- 30:27Speaker 3: this is escalated too much for me. He comes back
- 30:30Speaker 3: from one of his disappearances and he's like what are
- 30:33Speaker 3: you doing and she's like, I don't know. That's when
- 30:36Speaker 3: they kiss random, Like.
- 30:38Speaker 1: I don't I don't get I don't get his attraction
- 30:41Speaker 1: to her or her one eighty at all because the
- 30:44Speaker 1: first half of the movie, and she explains her backstory,
- 30:47Speaker 1: she was like a run a teen runaway who was
- 30:51Speaker 1: taken in by a meth adult biker gang passed around
- 30:55Speaker 1: like a doobie. I mean, she must have had sex
- 30:58Speaker 1: with every member of this game, and now she's like
- 31:01Speaker 1: a totally rational, well adjusted person who's like, you know what, Ever,
- 31:06Speaker 1: since we killed those National guardsmen, like I realize this
- 31:09Speaker 1: is not good, I think. And then Stone is also like,
- 31:15Speaker 1: you know, I guess he's just doing it for the
- 31:17Speaker 1: for the mission quote unquote, like, uh Andy had a
- 31:21Speaker 1: fucking killer line he texted me. Listening to the pod
- 31:25Speaker 1: you going to knockouts by accident? Is Richard Gear asking
- 31:29Speaker 1: her prostitute just for directions and pretty woman? So Stone
- 31:35Speaker 1: kissing Nancy just for the mission is kind of the
- 31:37Speaker 1: same thing.
- 31:39Speaker 2: Yeah, what does Chane says? He says that Stone, He's like,
- 31:43Speaker 2: he'll either be the biggest pork chop I've ever eaten
- 31:46Speaker 2: or my bulldozer. What does that mean?
- 31:49Speaker 1: Like, I can't tell you.
- 31:55Speaker 3: If he betrays me, I will horribly kill him, or
- 31:59Speaker 3: if he is what he has been showing me he is,
- 32:03Speaker 3: he'll be like my number two forever, my earner.
- 32:06Speaker 1: Okay, Oh I forgot to I forgot to mention this earlier.
- 32:09Speaker 1: Chains calls a connection he as of the police which
- 32:12Speaker 1: he would have one like that's very normal for a
- 32:14Speaker 1: gang to have a corrupt cop. And you're just like, hey,
- 32:17Speaker 1: is this guy Johnstone a cop? Here's a picture of him.
- 32:19Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, we'll get back to you in
- 32:21Speaker 1: a day or two. And then in a day or
- 32:24Speaker 1: two we haven't gotten here yet. They call back and
- 32:25Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, he's a cop. So it wasn't really
- 32:29Speaker 1: that hard.
- 32:31Speaker 2: But they're like proceeding with this like meth deal with
- 32:36Speaker 2: the Italians, Like, maybe you should get that information back
- 32:39Speaker 2: before you do anything further.
- 32:42Speaker 1: So he's getting like he's had a diner or something
- 32:46Speaker 1: with Nancy Stone. He's like, hey, I gotta go for
- 32:50Speaker 1: a while, but I can't tell you what I'm doing,
- 32:52Speaker 1: but I'll be back later. And he goes and meets
- 32:54Speaker 1: up with Lance, and who sees him talking to Lance Ice?
- 33:01Speaker 1: Ice Ice, Ice Baby. So Ice knows I was correct
- 33:06Speaker 1: this entire time.
- 33:08Speaker 2: And he loves it. He loves it, He loves.
- 33:10Speaker 1: It, And and the ensuing chaos, Ice immediately kills several cops. Yeah,
- 33:17Speaker 1: blows up a car with the machine gun, which was amazing.
- 33:21Speaker 1: There's like a long motorcycle chase between Stone and Ice
- 33:27Speaker 1: and I wanted to talk about the end result, but
- 33:31Speaker 1: any thoughts on the chase itself or any color to
- 33:33Speaker 1: add there?
- 33:38Speaker 2: Best in peace?
- 33:38Speaker 3: Ice?
- 33:40Speaker 1: Well, I honestly love everything about Ice. He was right
- 33:43Speaker 1: this entire time. Ice is the last words he gets
- 33:46Speaker 1: in a horrible accident and he's dying, He's covered in
- 33:50Speaker 1: burns and blood, and Stone walks up to him, and
- 33:54Speaker 1: Ice is the strength for one last quick sentence and
- 33:58Speaker 1: his what he says is fuck you cop. Yeah. Ice
- 34:03Speaker 1: was right.
- 34:05Speaker 3: Ice was right.
- 34:08Speaker 1: Uh So Nancy is back in Chains's bedroom, gets a
- 34:12Speaker 1: call from the cop and I was like, oh, yeah,
- 34:15Speaker 1: Johnstone is a cop. His name is Joe Hop. He
- 34:17Speaker 1: lives in Alabama. This is what he looks like. This
- 34:20Speaker 1: is his address. It was very easy to find out.
- 34:21Speaker 2: Yeah's undercover kick.
- 34:31Speaker 1: Paste up. Yeah, hey, I found a badge in your
- 34:34Speaker 1: pocket that says Joe Hoff on it.
- 34:37Speaker 3: Oh I took it from a cop. I beat him
- 34:38Speaker 3: up and took it.
- 34:40Speaker 1: You see why does he have your picture on it?
- 34:43Speaker 1: Do you see that? Nancy is hesitating, like what do
- 34:45Speaker 1: I do here? My next note is I fucking love
- 34:49Speaker 1: ICE's funeral, Love Ice Viking funeral for Ice. Ryan. I'm sorry, Andy,
- 34:56Speaker 1: please describe ICE's funeral.
- 34:59Speaker 2: So they get ICE's body somehow, I like did a
- 35:03Speaker 2: double tick. I was like what. So they get his
- 35:06Speaker 2: body and they position it on a motorcycle and then
- 35:10Speaker 2: everyone just kind of drinks and then what do they
- 35:13Speaker 2: set it on fire? They explode the body.
- 35:16Speaker 1: Yes, like a fighting funeral.
- 35:18Speaker 3: They spray it with like gas whatever, and then they throw.
- 35:22Speaker 2: But they're just partying to like a taxidermy version of
- 35:25Speaker 2: their friend.
- 35:27Speaker 1: I mean, I think taxidermyt is even optimistic. I think
- 35:30Speaker 1: that they just got his corpse. They propped it up
- 35:32Speaker 1: on a motorcycle in the middle of their fortress yard
- 35:35Speaker 1: and they're all just doing meth and drinking and shooting guns.
- 35:38Speaker 1: And then they light his corpse on fire. Awesome, fiking funeral.
- 35:44Speaker 1: I have a note, Ryan, what have you visited Andy
- 35:47Speaker 1: alone in San Diego and he said like, Hey, my
- 35:51Speaker 1: friend is having a party. If you want to go,
- 35:52Speaker 1: And you're like, yeah, great, And you show up and
- 35:56Speaker 1: it's ICE's funeral.
- 35:57Speaker 3: What do you do?
- 36:00Speaker 2: What your Yeah.
- 36:04Speaker 3: You can't leave. That's number one. If you leave, then
- 36:07Speaker 3: you know something's up. Hey, this guy signed up for this.
- 36:13Speaker 1: That's my theory, and it's it's revealed shortly after this
- 36:18Speaker 1: that Gut is still in the gang. The guy whose
- 36:21Speaker 1: fingers they chopped off is still in the gang.
- 36:22Speaker 3: Poor Gut nowhere to go.
- 36:26Speaker 1: And uh, Nancy knows he's a cop, and they and
- 36:30Speaker 1: Joe Cold Johnston Cold. Yikes, John Stone, I'm mixing this out,
- 36:37Speaker 1: John Stone, Joe Stone Cold. He's like, hey, I can't
- 36:43Speaker 1: explain to you the backstory, but I have a mack
- 36:46Speaker 1: truck of myth. Would you like would you like to
- 36:49Speaker 1: buy a mack truck of meth? And Chains is like,
- 36:52Speaker 1: you know what, I would like to buy a mack
- 36:55Speaker 1: truck of myth. It's ready right now. So they do
- 36:59Speaker 1: this deal and they go to a dock and there's
- 37:02Speaker 1: an undercover FBI agent who starts haggling with with Stone
- 37:08Speaker 1: about the price, and then Stone kills him. They staged
- 37:11Speaker 1: the death, which again I'm really starting to think that
- 37:13Speaker 1: the ATF was just like, no, we're good. We watched
- 37:16Speaker 1: we watch Stone Cold in real life, same beats. So
- 37:21Speaker 1: this this this FBI agent died quote unquote, but he
- 37:27Speaker 1: was pretending to be a drug dealer, and the cops
- 37:32Speaker 1: are supposed to follow the truck, but like, I didn't
- 37:36Speaker 1: understand why this went so poorly? Chains basically takes a
- 37:39Speaker 1: right turn instead of a left turn, and the cops
- 37:42Speaker 1: are like, whoa, where did they go? What is going on?
- 37:45Speaker 1: Like they are bewildered by this, and Joe's like.
- 37:51Speaker 3: Somewhere else, That's why the deal was supposed to happen,
- 37:53Speaker 3: somewhere else. And then Chain's derailed the deal.
- 37:58Speaker 1: Yes, and Owns thought, this is my deal. Change and
- 38:01Speaker 1: he's changed, and He's like, well, I have to change
- 38:03Speaker 1: things up. And then Joe says, to some lady was
- 38:06Speaker 1: sitting on his motorcycle during this conversation, he was get
- 38:09Speaker 1: off my horse. I thought that was pretty bad ass
- 38:12Speaker 1: calling it a horse. Yep, And he meets up with
- 38:18Speaker 1: Lance and Lance is like, so wait a minute, so
- 38:20Speaker 1: there's now a truckload of meth on the street, like
- 38:23Speaker 1: we did. He gave also, why did they use real
- 38:28Speaker 1: meth for this deal?
- 38:30Speaker 3: That's when Lance realized that Stone is a bad cop,
- 38:33Speaker 3: like he's bad at that job, like he's this is
- 38:35Speaker 3: why he was suspended.
- 38:38Speaker 1: And uh, Joe said, not only that, they just said
- 38:41Speaker 1: they're implementing crack the whip, which means they're going to
- 38:43Speaker 1: kill the governor whip. So he was like shit, and
- 38:48Speaker 1: Joe says, I have to go back alone, and the
- 38:50Speaker 1: FBI is like, okay, that makes sense. What Lance.
- 38:55Speaker 3: Lance also makes the brilliant point again Stone when the
- 39:01Speaker 3: deal goes sour and he's like to change, like what happened?
- 39:04Speaker 3: And Chang's like, I gotta do what I gotta do.
- 39:06Speaker 3: He just leaves. So if I'm changed, I'm like, yes,
- 39:11Speaker 3: you are a cop, Like why did you just leave now?
- 39:13Speaker 3: Like I know when you're mad at me, but like
- 39:15Speaker 3: you're part of this gang, right, Like why do you
- 39:17Speaker 3: just leave? So then when Lance goes back, Lance is like, well,
- 39:20Speaker 3: now he thinks you're a cop. Like there's no way
- 39:22Speaker 3: he doesn't you You just walked out of there and
- 39:25Speaker 3: left after the deal went bad, like they definitely think
- 39:27Speaker 3: you're a cop now. And so I's like, no, we're.
- 39:29Speaker 1: Good, No, we're good. Don't worry about it. Man, He's so.
- 39:35Speaker 1: Joe then follows Stone Johnstone, Joe Huff follows the truck
- 39:41Speaker 1: of meth, shoots with like a handgun while on a motorcycle,
- 39:46Speaker 1: shoots the trailer hitch and detaches it from the truck
- 39:52Speaker 1: driving it, which is impossible. Then the truck of meth
- 39:57Speaker 1: goes off into a gas station and explo.
- 40:00Speaker 3: Loads huge explosion, huge.
- 40:04Speaker 1: Okay, so let's recap. We made a real truckload of
- 40:08Speaker 1: meth before the FBI. We lost it and it's not
- 40:11Speaker 1: on the street. It exploded. We also completely decimated like
- 40:15Speaker 1: a city block and a gas station, and we arrested.
- 40:19Speaker 1: We arrested zero people.
- 40:22Speaker 3: Also, one of the culprits who the police were involved
- 40:26Speaker 3: in the chase killed, their body vanished.
- 40:30Speaker 1: And Joe was seen by the drivers shooting the truck
- 40:36Speaker 1: of meth. And then he shows up at the biker
- 40:39Speaker 1: Fortress the next day in the daytime and I'm like,
- 40:42Speaker 1: what is he doing? Yeah, yeah, so he said. He said,
- 40:48Speaker 1: They're like, hey, Joe, what's going on? Chains really wants
- 40:51Speaker 1: to see you. Sorry, hey, John hay Stone, Change really
- 40:56Speaker 1: wants to see you. And he's like okay. And then
- 40:59Speaker 1: she Dane says betrayal as a bitch, And you think
- 41:04Speaker 1: Nancy ratted him out, but Nancy actually never said he
- 41:08Speaker 1: was a cop. And it's who is it that comes
- 41:11Speaker 1: back from the dead somehow. I don't know where he
- 41:14Speaker 1: came from. I thought he was in prison. It's the
- 41:18Speaker 1: spider spider ear tattoo guy yep.
- 41:21Speaker 3: Guy.
- 41:23Speaker 1: So he's, like I told, he starts mocking Stone. I
- 41:26Speaker 1: was like, this guy's obviously dead. So Chains instead of
- 41:31Speaker 1: you know, cause like I thought, sorry, go ahead.
- 41:34Speaker 2: I was gonna say I thought the girl routed him out.
- 41:36Speaker 2: That's how closely I watched this movie. I thought, I
- 41:40Speaker 2: wrote the notes that the girl basically told him that
- 41:42Speaker 2: he was a cop. But no, it was it was
- 41:45Speaker 2: a spider. Yeah, you're right. I remember him showing up
- 41:47Speaker 2: and saying, whatever he thought, you got rid of me.
- 41:50Speaker 1: Yeah, perhaps it was their romantic connection. But you know
- 41:54Speaker 1: in the Sopranos they talk about how whenever you don't
- 41:58Speaker 1: get murdered like a James Bond, you nobody tells you
- 42:01Speaker 1: their plan. It's like your friends come up to you
- 42:04Speaker 1: smiling and then everything goes black and you're shot in
- 42:07Speaker 1: the back of the head. So they should just immediately
- 42:10Speaker 1: kill Stone in every way. But instead Chains turns and
- 42:17Speaker 1: shoots Nancy to death. And I thought, for sure, oh,
- 42:20Speaker 1: she's like wearing the bulletproof vest. There's gonna be a
- 42:23Speaker 1: callback to that. Nope, she's dead. Nancy's just dead. Yeah,
- 42:31Speaker 1: So so then they decide, you know what's Stone, because
- 42:35Speaker 1: you know you're a rat and you're a cup. We're
- 42:37Speaker 1: gonna keep you alive for this whole mission, and we're
- 42:41Speaker 1: gonna bring you along as like a hostage, and we're
- 42:47Speaker 1: gonna assign guys to watch you to make sure you
- 42:49Speaker 1: don't escape, and you're gonna be there the whole time.
- 42:52Speaker 1: And I'm like, why not kill him? Why kill Stone?
- 42:59Speaker 2: I had to look up after the fact, like why
- 43:02Speaker 2: is Stone alive on the helicopter?
- 43:04Speaker 1: Like what's he doing?
- 43:05Speaker 2: What happened? Like how is he not dead? Like I
- 43:08Speaker 2: didn't know.
- 43:09Speaker 1: I have just no idea.
- 43:11Speaker 3: They were going to use him as like the bomb.
- 43:14Speaker 3: They were going to drop him with the bomb attached
- 43:17Speaker 3: onto the capitol.
- 43:20Speaker 1: Why why this?
- 43:23Speaker 3: I could not believe the movie went to this scale
- 43:26Speaker 3: after like I'm not kidding you, Like I was like,
- 43:29Speaker 3: holy shit, this is gigantic. I was like, and that's
- 43:31Speaker 3: what I said. I think the ending plan is that
- 43:34Speaker 3: Chains thought you'd become ruler of the known earth, Like
- 43:37Speaker 3: that was like his plan, because like this, this plan
- 43:39Speaker 3: is so insane. You would have so much military and
- 43:44Speaker 3: like government and police on you. You could never follow
- 43:47Speaker 3: through on this.
- 43:48Speaker 1: Ever, Yeah I did. Well. I will say to give
- 43:53Speaker 1: the movie a little bit of credit to be that
- 43:55Speaker 1: the guy and Duck and Donut's arguing that The Patriot
- 43:57Speaker 1: is a good film. So they changed does play Russian
- 44:01Speaker 1: Roulette with Stone, and Stone survives the Russian Roulette. So
- 44:06Speaker 1: James is like, all right, that's the universe telling me
- 44:08Speaker 1: to keep you alive. And I do respect that they
- 44:11Speaker 1: portray Stone is very afraid in this moment because he
- 44:14Speaker 1: does think he's going to die, because why would he not. Yeah,
- 44:20Speaker 1: then you know, Lance Hendrickson doesn't look like the Lence
- 44:23Speaker 1: Hendrickson I know in this movie. He's he's like long,
- 44:26Speaker 1: greasy hair, he is a beard, he looks like a biker.
- 44:29Speaker 1: And then they cut to him looking like Lence Hendrickson,
- 44:33Speaker 1: clean cut, clean shaven dress as a Catholic priest, and
- 44:36Speaker 1: I thought, cannot wait to see where this is going.
- 44:40Speaker 2: I was.
- 44:41Speaker 3: I was like, this must have infuriated him to cut
- 44:43Speaker 3: his hair. The change not change.
- 44:47Speaker 1: Yeah, he betray He's dedicated to crack the whip. So
- 44:52Speaker 1: they they are going to their so basically, also, I
- 44:57Speaker 1: kind of appreciated the the logic of this isn't just
- 45:02Speaker 1: stupidity where they're like, let's have another trial where we
- 45:05Speaker 1: re sentenced this guy, the guy who killed the priest
- 45:07Speaker 1: who was sentenced to forty five years in jail whip.
- 45:10Speaker 1: The governors trying to get him sentenced to death, so
- 45:13Speaker 1: instead of just having another trial, because it like that
- 45:16Speaker 1: would make no sense in real life, but you know,
- 45:18Speaker 1: why would the movie care. They actually show that. It's
- 45:21Speaker 1: like being appealed to the Supreme Court and it's guarded
- 45:26Speaker 1: by bodyguards, metal detectors, and Chance just walks in there
- 45:30Speaker 1: with like a fucking machine gun in his pocket. But
- 45:33Speaker 1: they go, oh, father, you set the metal detector off.
- 45:36Speaker 1: And he's like rosary beads and they're like, oh, yeah,
- 45:40Speaker 1: that makes sense. Okay, So they Max's dad from It's
- 45:49Speaker 1: Always Sunny. I don't know his character name. Do you
- 45:51Speaker 1: know his character name?
- 45:53Speaker 3: I don't know his character name. Yeah, he was like
- 45:55Speaker 3: a former military god.
- 45:59Speaker 1: Yeah. But he's like, you know, there's a guy that's
- 46:02Speaker 1: actively in the army who's friends with Max dad because
- 46:05Speaker 1: Max dad used to be in the army and I
- 46:07Speaker 1: was in this motorcycle gang. So he goes to his
- 46:10Speaker 1: buddy in the army and he's like, I know, you know,
- 46:13Speaker 1: we're doing illegal shit. We're a gang, and you get that.
- 46:16Speaker 1: But I'll kick you some money if you give us
- 46:18Speaker 1: like a military hall helicopter and nine hundred guns. And
- 46:23Speaker 1: then he's like, yeah, sure you. How how do you
- 46:31Speaker 1: get to steal a military helicopter?
- 46:35Speaker 2: Goose?
- 46:37Speaker 1: That's good to know, ironic based on his death. So
- 46:44Speaker 1: they so Goose steals a military helicopter, and they decide,
- 46:48Speaker 1: just like James Bond, we are going to tie you
- 46:51Speaker 1: up Stone in this helicopter. We have brought another person
- 46:55Speaker 1: on the helicopter solely to watch you the entire time.
- 46:59Speaker 1: And we're just doing this just to fuck with you
- 47:01Speaker 1: and make you see all of this. And they're flying
- 47:04Speaker 1: above the capital. What is it? Is it Jackson? Is
- 47:11Speaker 1: it Jackson, Mississippi?
- 47:15Speaker 2: That's the capital.
- 47:15Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think they're in Jackson. They're flying over
- 47:19Speaker 1: the courthouse and I'm like, just throw stone, just throw
- 47:23Speaker 1: Stone out of the helicopter.
- 47:25Speaker 2: They're in Alabama, right, No, think Mississippi.
- 47:28Speaker 3: Alabama, but this is in Mississippi.
- 47:30Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, got it.
- 47:33Speaker 1: And I'm the one drinking Andy, Just throw Stone out
- 47:37Speaker 1: of the helicopter. What what are we doing? What are
- 47:41Speaker 1: we doing? But he's still and the way he's tied up,
- 47:44Speaker 1: he's doing a bolt double bicep. They tied them up
- 47:46Speaker 1: in a double bicep pose, and I'm like, yeah, they're gay.
- 47:49Speaker 1: They they are attracted to him. There's no other reason
- 47:53Speaker 1: to do this. And he's so fucking muscular he bought.
- 47:56Speaker 1: He flexes his biceps and snaps the row to the helicopter,
- 48:01Speaker 1: freeing himself. And if you if you are in a
- 48:08Speaker 1: helicopter and you decide to fight everyone on board, you
- 48:12Speaker 1: are all dead. The helicopter is crashing. There's no scenario
- 48:17Speaker 1: where this helicopter is not crashed. But they have so
- 48:21Speaker 1: what I don't understand the plan of the bomb. What
- 48:24Speaker 1: was the plan of the bomb? Because Chance is hoping
- 48:27Speaker 1: to get out of there, right, I.
- 48:28Speaker 3: Think it was meant to be a distraction to bomb,
- 48:32Speaker 3: take the attention away and go from there. So I
- 48:34Speaker 3: think that's why.
- 48:36Speaker 1: Yeah, sort of like in Die Here with a Vengeance,
- 48:39Speaker 1: they want to distract with the terrorist threat so they
- 48:43Speaker 1: can steal they can rob the four the Federal Reserve exactly.
- 48:48Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, smart.
- 48:52Speaker 1: Stone manages to Jesus Christ, Chucky Stone manages to get
- 48:58Speaker 1: the bomb out of the helicopter, throws it out a helicopter.
- 49:02Speaker 3: It explodes with the guy that's the guy who was
- 49:05Speaker 3: on the helicopter with him. He explodes with the bomb.
- 49:08Speaker 3: He puts it in the guy's shirt and kicks him
- 49:11Speaker 3: off the helicopter and that guy is liquefied in mid air. Yeah.
- 49:15Speaker 1: I want to say that from here on out, you
- 49:19Speaker 1: may have thought that this movie's kind of ridiculous, but whatever.
- 49:23Speaker 1: It's like it's like kind of typical stupid action movie.
- 49:29Speaker 1: And I was almost a little disappointed, like, oh, I
- 49:31Speaker 1: thought this would be more ridiculous from here on out.
- 49:34Speaker 1: This is dialed up to about a twelve out of ten.
- 49:37Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I almost was like, did someone else take
- 49:42Speaker 3: over this movie? After he realized, wait a minute, this
- 49:44Speaker 3: is not big enough, because I'm like, what is this
- 49:46Speaker 3: from It's just so it just completely changes. It's so insane.
- 49:52Speaker 1: I just don't think this would ever happen now, No.
- 49:57Speaker 3: You would that even though shot just a helicopter, like
- 50:00Speaker 3: being like ten feet off the street and going through
- 50:02Speaker 3: a crowd of people, you would never see now you
- 50:04Speaker 3: would never say that.
- 50:06Speaker 1: Yeah, no, because there's so much like the shootout in
- 50:08Speaker 1: the courthouse, which we'll get to. There's just so much
- 50:11Speaker 1: nowadays where i'd like terrorism, mass shootings. I mean this
- 50:16Speaker 1: is ten years before nine to eleven. So yeah, and
- 50:20Speaker 1: also like this does not have what I miss about
- 50:23Speaker 1: movies like this. I could just enjoy them without it
- 50:26Speaker 1: being tied to politics, where nowadays it's like if this
- 50:31Speaker 1: came out, would would this be? Like I feel like
- 50:34Speaker 1: everything now is like this is a mega movie and
- 50:37Speaker 1: mega people love it, and I just don't want to
- 50:40Speaker 1: deal with that. Can we just enjoy stupid action movies
- 50:43Speaker 1: about dudes killing bad people without it being like politicized
- 50:47Speaker 1: in any way?
- 50:49Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 50:50Speaker 1: Yeah, but you said, right, you said Citizen Vigilante was
- 50:55Speaker 1: really good?
- 51:00Speaker 3: What is that?
- 51:01Speaker 1: I'm sorry? The U Bowl movie starring Army Hammer.
- 51:06Speaker 3: I I have not seen that.
- 51:07Speaker 1: No, No, that looks like the biggest piece of shit
- 51:10Speaker 1: of all time. Uh you never talked a E Bowl? Yeah? Yeah,
- 51:18Speaker 1: that guy. Do you know think he boxed a critic?
- 51:21Speaker 1: Do you know about that?
- 51:22Speaker 3: Remember that? Yeah?
- 51:23Speaker 2: Yeah, Army Hammer?
- 51:25Speaker 1: No. No, So there's this directory named I think it
- 51:27Speaker 1: might be Yui Bowl? Is that how you say it?
- 51:30Speaker 3: I called it? Is that how it said? Yeah?
- 51:32Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Yu Bowl Yue Bowl. But
- 51:34Speaker 1: he's a director and he's known as like the worst
- 51:36Speaker 1: director of all time. He's made I don't know how
- 51:39Speaker 1: he keeps getting work, but he's made some of the
- 51:42Speaker 1: worst movies of all time. And he challenged a film
- 51:46Speaker 1: critic to a like a charity boxing match, and they
- 51:49Speaker 1: actually did it. This was like twenty years ago. But yeah,
- 51:55Speaker 1: so this is maybe my favorite part of the movie.
- 52:03Speaker 1: Chane's just sitting there as a priest in the trial
- 52:06Speaker 1: and the Supreme Court decides, we are overturning the verdict.
- 52:10Speaker 1: We are going to sentence this man to death, or
- 52:13Speaker 1: we're overturning the sentence, not the verdict, and Chaans notices
- 52:18Speaker 1: that the guy who was an FBI agent during the
- 52:21Speaker 1: drug deal, who was killed on the dock, who was
- 52:24Speaker 1: actually faking it and had like blood squibs under his chest.
- 52:29Speaker 1: He sees that guy. So he realizes, oh shit, that
- 52:31Speaker 1: guy didn't actually die, he was an FBI agent, and
- 52:37Speaker 1: he's not pleased. I would say.
- 52:40Speaker 3: It's the best acting in the entire movie. Like when
- 52:43Speaker 3: that guy sits down and they just cut to Lancenrick's
- 52:45Speaker 3: in his face. I just started laughing. He just looked
- 52:47Speaker 3: so irate, he just looked so so bad.
- 52:51Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So the first thing he does he pulled
- 52:54Speaker 1: when he pulls out his gun is he says to
- 52:56Speaker 1: that guy, this time is for real, asshole, and then
- 52:59Speaker 1: just annihilates. That's all.
- 53:05Speaker 2: The guns are huge in this last sequence, like no
- 53:08Speaker 2: one has a normal sized weapons.
- 53:11Speaker 3: Like space guns. They're insane with a.
- 53:13Speaker 2: Flat it's like three feet each gun three feet long.
- 53:17Speaker 1: And then Chains proceeds to kill everyone in the courtroom
- 53:21Speaker 1: and all of the Supreme Court members kills them all.
- 53:25Speaker 3: Like I said, planning to rule the earth after this.
- 53:28Speaker 3: That has to be the plan.
- 53:30Speaker 1: Oh, Like, like I can't even imagine. This is you
- 53:35Speaker 1: know five stars in Grand Theft Auto when there's tanks
- 53:38Speaker 1: and jets constantly coming after you no matter.
- 53:40Speaker 3: What you do.
- 53:43Speaker 1: And they show they show a truck like a like
- 53:46Speaker 1: a Mac truck backs through a window in the courthouse
- 53:51Speaker 1: and when they open the back of the doors, just
- 53:54Speaker 1: motorcycles fly out. Dudes like a dozen dudes on a
- 53:58Speaker 1: motorcycles fly out of the truck.
- 54:01Speaker 2: Yeah, motorcycle courthouse takeover.
- 54:04Speaker 1: The motorcycle takeover. And I couldn't believe this. So the
- 54:07Speaker 1: Governor Whip, this whole movie was based on. They want
- 54:10Speaker 1: to kill the Governor Whip, Chane said, goes up to
- 54:14Speaker 1: him and says, this makes me think of my father's
- 54:16Speaker 1: last words, don't son that gun is loaded, which is
- 54:19Speaker 1: a pretty good line, and then he actually kills Whip. Yeah,
- 54:23Speaker 1: so Whip dies. Everybody in court dies, the Supreme Court dies,
- 54:28Speaker 1: and you're.
- 54:28Speaker 2: Surprised by Whip dying.
- 54:29Speaker 1: Why, Like, what what action movie have you ever seen
- 54:34Speaker 1: where the whole plot of the movie is this evil
- 54:37Speaker 1: gang is trying to kill this like famous person and
- 54:41Speaker 1: then they succeed. The hero does not stop them.
- 54:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I did to think about that. I
- 54:48Speaker 2: was just thinking everyone's dying like.
- 54:50Speaker 1: That never happens. Nobody ever decides. Yeah, you know, everybody's dying.
- 54:54Speaker 1: And in a Bosworth later recalled in a twenty fourteen
- 54:58Speaker 1: screening after watching the film, his son said to him, quote, Dad,
- 55:02Speaker 1: you didn't really save anyone. Everyone died, every single person,
- 55:09Speaker 1: every single person. So then it cuts to these motorcycle
- 55:14Speaker 1: gang members are riding motorcycles through like this ornate marble
- 55:19Speaker 1: courthouse and it looks like an alien landing in my backyard.
- 55:23Speaker 1: It just seems so out of place.
- 55:26Speaker 3: So just also, no, the biker guys, a few of
- 55:31Speaker 3: them decided to go in disguises. The other ones do
- 55:35Speaker 3: not no, no security in this building at all, just
- 55:40Speaker 3: none today.
- 55:41Speaker 1: I mean they're probably were instantly killed. It would be
- 55:43Speaker 1: like January sixth. I mean what if those what if
- 55:46Speaker 1: everybody on January six had a motorcycle and a machine gun,
- 55:49Speaker 1: those security guards would have been defeated or those cops
- 55:52Speaker 1: would have been defeated in five seconds.
- 55:55Speaker 3: This honestly, I maybe again we're giving the writers and
- 55:59Speaker 3: creators everych uestion. And this reminded me a lot of that.
- 56:02Speaker 3: I was like, wow, just because the visuals, how these
- 56:04Speaker 3: guys like this looks a lot like this.
- 56:07Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, that would be that would be quite
- 56:11Speaker 1: a twist if in the sequel Chains was elected president.
- 56:17Speaker 3: There, I don't think. I think that's a full blown.
- 56:20Speaker 2: Takeover, so that we sorry, go ahead, Andy, Do you
- 56:24Speaker 2: think Judstone did anything positive in this movie? Just basically
- 56:28Speaker 2: what you're saying, No, did he do anything good?
- 56:31Speaker 3: No?
- 56:31Speaker 2: They have like the protagonist did nothing.
- 56:35Speaker 1: Nancy died, got gut died, Ryan was really torn up.
- 56:40Speaker 1: That mudfish died. All the Supreme Court justices died.
- 56:45Speaker 2: He didn't kill Chains. The other his partner killed Chains.
- 56:48Speaker 2: Whip Whip died, So he didn't do anything positive.
- 56:54Speaker 3: Lance didn't need him. Lance would have solved the whole thing.
- 56:57Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a terrible idea, Terri.
- 57:00Speaker 2: That's crazy.
- 57:01Speaker 1: And also keep in mind, earlier in the film we
- 57:03Speaker 1: didn't talk about this. Lance was like, we have enough
- 57:06Speaker 1: to arrest these guys for racketeering, and Stone is like, no, no, no,
- 57:11Speaker 1: I have to stand undercover because we can get them
- 57:13Speaker 1: for so much more. We can get them for like terrorism, murder.
- 57:16Speaker 1: They'll all go away forever. So Lance is like, Okay,
- 57:20Speaker 1: if Lance had just arrested Chains for racketeering, none of
- 57:23Speaker 1: this would have happened.
- 57:26Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't save anyone, He doesn't do anything positive.
- 57:30Speaker 2: But he walks out of there like head hell tie.
- 57:33Speaker 1: He looks like a fucking badass is what he does.
- 57:35Speaker 1: It looks great.
- 57:37Speaker 3: Yeah, he tails me. I was reading individual articles about
- 57:42Speaker 3: the making this movie sound insane, early filming, early casting.
- 57:48Speaker 3: I don't know the details, is why. I'm just kind
- 57:50Speaker 3: of like, holy.
- 57:50Speaker 1: Shit, I didn't really like I only my research only
- 57:56Speaker 1: went so far for this film, Nordon.
- 57:59Speaker 3: I'm literally just gonna was like, Wow, there's like relocation
- 58:02Speaker 3: to Arkansas. Final weeks on Gulf Coast, a full strike
- 58:05Speaker 3: went out with the workforce on the crew.
- 58:08Speaker 2: Wow, just stitch this thing together.
- 58:11Speaker 1: Well, all this masterpiece. So Max's dad, who's Goose, is
- 58:21Speaker 1: flying the helicopter and Stone has a gun to his
- 58:23Speaker 1: head and is directing him what to do, like pull up,
- 58:26Speaker 1: pull down, go left, go right, and he's just listening
- 58:28Speaker 1: to him. And I'm like, if you're a Goose, I
- 58:31Speaker 1: mean you're fucked. You stole a military helicopter to kill
- 58:34Speaker 1: the governor. You might as well just crash the helicopter
- 58:37Speaker 1: into the courthouse. Why are you listening to Joe? Why
- 58:40Speaker 1: are you valuing your own life?
- 58:41Speaker 3: At this point, the only ball of the helicopter he
- 58:45Speaker 3: has to bring it.
- 58:45Speaker 1: Back and and there, so like all the cops in military,
- 58:51Speaker 1: there are shooting at shooting at this helicopter, and obviously,
- 58:57Speaker 1: and then Lance sees Joe and the cockpit holding the
- 59:01Speaker 1: gun to Goose and he goes, oh stop, it's Joe.
- 59:05Speaker 1: Oh no, no, shoot that motherfucker down with the bazooka.
- 59:13Speaker 2: Joe's got nine lives.
- 59:14Speaker 1: Joe's cat, uh, he sure does so. So then when
- 59:23Speaker 1: Chaine's sees that Joe is controlled the helicopter. I laughed
- 59:27Speaker 1: so hard at this part because this is like a
- 59:29Speaker 1: well orchestrated terrorist attack. They've been planning for months, and
- 59:33Speaker 1: there's one hundred guys with different roles. They're all on
- 59:35Speaker 1: walkie talkies. When Chain sees the Joe's control of the helicopter,
- 59:39Speaker 1: he says into the walkie talkie to everyone, uh, quote quote,
- 59:47Speaker 1: everybody bail, You're on your own instantly, You're so deep,
- 59:55Speaker 1: You're so deep in What do you mean, everybody bail?
- 59:58Speaker 1: You're on your own? Oh so I wrote this is
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: fucking completely genuinely insane. Joe's shirt is now the shirts
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: off for the rest of the movie, basically his shirts
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: wide open. He's looking great, just ripped. He shoots up
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: a motorcycle in a hallway and the motorcycle instantly explodes.
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: Every time a vehicle is struck with one bullet, it's
- 1:00:26Speaker 3: a nuclear level blast in this entire moment.
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: One of the one of the best, one of the
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: best lines in Last Action Last Action Hero is when
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: Arnold goes into the real world. He shoots a cab
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: and it doesn't blow up, and he goes the Tuxi's
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: a bulletproof but he mudfish kills poor gut, so poor
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: gut of his finger chopped off. He just dies.
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: He sacrifices himself for stone right the stone like around
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: the corner, and then got jumps.
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: Kind of he kind of hesitates for like a second.
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: He doesn't like save his life or anything, so guts life.
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: The hero pointless.
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: And Joe Joe Joe's life appaently, No, you're right, Actually
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: you're right.
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: No wonder he was suspended. Yeah, Joe shoots mudfish out
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: the window. Joe shoots mudfish out the window and he
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: launches like five thousand feet. Yeah, but this is one
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: of well sorry, go ahead.
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: Ryan lands on the car. Yeah, this is.
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: One of my favorite moments in the movie as well.
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: So Joe is holding a gun. On the other side
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: of the of the hallway, like fifty yards away is
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: a guy on a motorcycle with no weapons, and he
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: sizes up Joe and he's like, I'm going for it.
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: He thinks gun versus motorcycle, I got this motorcycle wins.
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: We all know that game. So he revs up his
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: motorcycle starts charging a Joe. Joe immediately kills him, just
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: shoots him and.
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: Kills him, Like so what just the balloon just like done?
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: And then do you guys remember about how Joe.
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: Oh sorry, we didn't talk about how Joe jumps from
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: the helicopter.
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how does he jump from the helicopter? I
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: don't remember.
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: He Joe off the helicopter, threw a glass, and then
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: he just at the at least my YouTube video hit.
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: The next state is him running into a wall like
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: he has vertical running into a wall after he just
- 1:02:33Speaker 2: jumped from the helicopter, through glass, through a building, and
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: then he just beats up a guy. He turns around
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: and beats up a guy after he's.
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: I forgot about that. That's a great point because there's
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: this like giant ornate marble hallway I mean sorry lobby
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: that's like three stories tall with a glass ceiling, and
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: he just falls through the glass ceiling three stories lands
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: on the marble ground like on his feet, and he's fine.
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: They showed him like running into a wall. It was
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: like he just walked into a wall casually. That was
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: the vaccine through the glass.
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: That's a great point, Andrew, thank you say. And what
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: during the game of Chicken that Joe easily wins with
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: the motorcycle guys, the guy gets shot off his motorcycle.
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: Then do you remember what happens to the motorcycle.
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: The helicopter flies out.
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: It gets launched out of a window like a ballistic
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: missile and explodes the helicopter that Goose is still inside of. Yeah.
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: He then has chained essentially dead to rights, and he
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: decides to let him live. I don't know why everyone
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: else died. Everyone.
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: He's the life you should save.
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: It's it's honestly like Batman letting the Joker live. How
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: many what does he say? How many people? I am
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: murdered by letting you live? So he let's he lets
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: change like I'm gonna let the system because I believe
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: in in law and order. I'm gonna let the system
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: decide your fate. Uh. And what what happens from here? Ryan?
- 1:04:15Speaker 3: He the FBI take in Chains, but Chains is behind them.
- 1:04:25Speaker 3: Bizarre to let him out of the sight, and he
- 1:04:28Speaker 3: sees it. One of the ages is a gun.
- 1:04:30Speaker 4: There's a lot going on going on, a lot of
- 1:04:33Speaker 4: a lot of hijinks. So the classic movie slow motion thing.
- 1:04:38Speaker 4: He pulls the gun out and it's gonna shoot Joe.
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: Boom. We just see Chains flip backwards dead and we
- 1:04:47Speaker 3: cut to the smoking gun of Lance, the FBI agent
- 1:04:51Speaker 3: doing his best Reginald vel Johnson from Diehard Exactly.
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: I was just gonna say that.
- 1:04:57Speaker 3: Yeah, they just yeah, they just alright stole that, not
- 1:05:00Speaker 3: even a question about it. But yeah, Andy.
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: I want you to describe this is maybe the best
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: end credits I've ever seen in my life.
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: Agreed, Yep, So Chains dies and then I don't even
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: know if there's any words, but Joe just walks out
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: of the courthouse covered in blood. There's like heavy metal
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: music playing, and he's just slowly walking out in the
- 1:05:29Speaker 2: credits role, he's no shirt on, no shirt, He's Yeah,
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: it's incredible.
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: It looks like everybody staring at him, like what is
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: what is this guy doing? He just walks out. He's like, yeah,
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: a complete and utter failure as a cop. I guess.
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: So he actually the one time he caught someone Chains,
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: that man slipped out of custody and then was gonna
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: kill again and Lance had to step in and do
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: something about it.
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: Yeah, his undercover job didn't go well.
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: No, and sorry, Ryan, were you just gonna say something?
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: No? No, no.
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: There was rumors that there was going to be a
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: sequel for this, but they never got the money together. However,
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: somebody wrote in a review, because like, this is a
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: type of movie that was so hated when it came out.
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: Obviously everybody thought it was stupid starring a failed NFL player,
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: and in the years that passed a lot, it grew
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: a lot of cult fandom. And somebody critic wrote, I
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: didn't write down the name of the critics, this is
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: a perfect B movie. And I thought that's a total
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: slam dunk way to capture this. It's a perfect B movie.
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: It's not good, but it's not trying to be good.
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: It's very entertaining and fun. It knows what it is.
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: It's self aware, and it's just like, yeah, you couldn't
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: really expect more from what this is.
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's good in their roles, right, Like Stone is likable,
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: the bad guys are like at least kind of like quirky,
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: and the plot is just like, let's just rush to
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: the action.
- 1:07:22Speaker 3: And it's definitely a thing of like a lot of
- 1:07:26Speaker 3: like probably mid to late eighties, and then obviously with
- 1:07:30Speaker 3: this like early nineties thing of like these movies, the
- 1:07:35Speaker 3: only way they were going to stand out was to
- 1:07:38Speaker 3: just peals the metal on this kind of stuff. If
- 1:07:43Speaker 3: you guys ever remember you guys know Rutger Hower. Oh yeah,
- 1:07:47Speaker 3: there was a movie on USA all the time where
- 1:07:51Speaker 3: Gene Simmons from Kiss played a terrorist who like killed
- 1:07:56Speaker 3: Rutger Howard's partner in the beginning of the movie and
- 1:07:58Speaker 3: he killed them in some terrible way and he has
- 1:08:01Speaker 3: to like capture him and bring him in, and like
- 1:08:04Speaker 3: the end of the movie is like he captures and
- 1:08:08Speaker 3: brings him in and he had this worker house character
- 1:08:10Speaker 3: like left the FBI because of what happened to his partner.
- 1:08:12Speaker 3: He's like a bounty hunter or something like that, and
- 1:08:16Speaker 3: he has Geene Simmons hostage with a grenade in his mouth,
- 1:08:20Speaker 3: and he's just like, okay, I got him. Here he is,
- 1:08:23Speaker 3: and then the FBI is like, okay, well, you know
- 1:08:26Speaker 3: it's you know, here's your fee if he's if he's alive,
- 1:08:31Speaker 3: it's you know, five hundred thousand dollars. And he's like okay,
- 1:08:36Speaker 3: and then they're like, well dead, it's only like ten thousand,
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: and he just pulls the pin out of Jean simmons
- 1:08:42Speaker 3: head and he's like, well, fuck him, and then they
- 1:08:44Speaker 3: like Jean Simon just blows up and the movie just
- 1:08:47Speaker 3: ends and it's just like that's the whole point in
- 1:08:49Speaker 3: istry to remember that one stupidly insane moment and like
- 1:08:52Speaker 3: this is what this is, Like this is the same thing.
- 1:08:55Speaker 3: It works, and like you guys said, like you don't
- 1:08:59Speaker 3: see also stuf like this anymore. You really kind of
- 1:09:01Speaker 3: just don't see them this real. As corny as this is,
- 1:09:04Speaker 3: you just don't see this. It reminded me a lot
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: of we did Sudden Death, like the helicopter goes to
- 1:09:08Speaker 3: the stadium they did. It's just so cool to see that.
- 1:09:13Speaker 3: I was surprised because I don't know if you guys did.
- 1:09:14Speaker 3: I was once googling the movie. They said that there
- 1:09:18Speaker 3: was a sequel called Back in Business, and I was like,
- 1:09:22Speaker 3: oh shit, I gotta see this. But it's it is
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: a sequel, but it's not where it's. His name is
- 1:09:31Speaker 3: Joe Elkhart and he's like a former cop returns from
- 1:09:35Speaker 3: to active duty from an undercover mission for the FBI
- 1:09:37Speaker 3: with this partner. It's a different movie.
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: Is it is it Bosworth?
- 1:09:45Speaker 3: It is Bosworth, He's in it.
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: It's the is Lance in it?
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: No Lance, It's Joe Tory, Brian James. But like that's
- 1:09:59Speaker 3: the description movie, but it's not a sequel to this,
- 1:10:03Speaker 3: but it was yeah.
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: And I don't I don't understand this, but like Steven
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: Seagal is still making movies and I don't understand how
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: who was paying for them and who was watching them.
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: But Bosworth has been in like a million, you know,
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: straight to DVD action movies that I've never heard of.
- 1:10:24Speaker 3: It's a big industry for a lot of guys. Yeah,
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: someone watched them. I think that they didn't do it.
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: They wouldn't make them right.
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: And this is the type of movie that I'm so
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: glad that Tom McGee was in this because when I
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: started this movie, especially the era it was in, I
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: was like, if a professional I would bet my life
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: a professional wrestler is going to show up in this
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: movie to some capacity based on like the era, what
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: what these movies were. I mean, it's still happening all
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: the time. Like in the new Mortal Kombat movie, the
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: villain was played by Nathan Jones, I was like, how
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: old is he? He's fifty five. He's gonna be done
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: so many steroids to look like that at fifty five.
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm a big I'm honestly a big boss guy.
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: I I wasn't like before watching the documentary and seeing
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: this movie, I'm just like, yeah, man, I mean, he
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: could have been so much worse. In my opinion, Yeah,
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: he was fine with this.
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: He was likable. I wanted him to do well, not
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: that he did, but.
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: In another universe he was like the greatest professional wrestler
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: of all time. But he never he never did any
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: professional wrestling. A lot of guys did, like Mango McMichael,
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: he was a he's a Hall of Famer for the Bears,
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: NFL Hall of Fame and was like, had a big
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: run in WCW. But no, Bosworth never never did anything.
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: I didn't do wrestling. It seems very logical, especially his
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: career ended early, and.
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: I know he went into I think that he thought
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: it was that was never I think he thought he
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: was above it. Because I feel like now, I feel
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: like at this point in pop culture, the nerds of
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: one like mainstream everyone loves Pokemon and comic books and
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: pro wrestling, like athletes and celebrities come out of the
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: woodwork talking about how they love pro wrestling. But I
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: feel like back then, you know, he's like, I'm an
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: NFL player, I was one of the top picks in
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: the draft. I'm I want to be an actor. I
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: think he would think he's the butt. Pro wrestling would
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: be below him.
- 1:12:44Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would think of the same thing I was. Yeah,
- 1:12:48Speaker 3: I think especially other contemporaries of his who tried to
- 1:12:51Speaker 3: be successful actors who did it, did like like even
- 1:12:56Speaker 3: like like look at like obviously Stallone who was an actor,
- 1:12:59Speaker 3: but like Arnold was a bodybuilder, call Weathers as well.
- 1:13:04Speaker 3: Like so many people were in the sports industry before
- 1:13:08Speaker 3: moving to action and could succeed really well. So I
- 1:13:13Speaker 3: wouldn't be shocked if they were like, let's follow suit
- 1:13:15Speaker 3: with us and think like wrestling was a bit below them. Yeah,
- 1:13:19Speaker 3: I thought you when wrestlers at the time tried to
- 1:13:22Speaker 3: be in movies, they weren't considered as successful. Yeah, so
- 1:13:27Speaker 3: I think if you did it, you didn't really go anywhere.
- 1:13:29Speaker 3: I mean, I know Hulk is in Rocky, but like, still.
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: I want to see a draft pick. He was, but
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: he was in the supplemental draft, which I don't fully understand.
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: He wasn't allowed to be in the regular draft. One
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: of the reasons he got kicked off Oklahoma because when
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: he got suspended for steroids and then he wore the
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: shirt making fun of the NCAA. Barry Switzer, who later
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: coached the Cowboys to a Super Bowl, was like, I'm sick,
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: youre shit and kicked him off Oklahoma. But he played
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: there for three years.
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: So definitely has a personality. You know, he was like
- 1:14:04Speaker 2: a personality and everything he did. So that's that's something
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: I feel like he made a name for himself.
- 1:14:11Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta read you this story. Before the
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: season opener at Denver, Bosworth trash talk to Denver quarterback
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: John Elway. At the game, ten thousand Denver fans wore
- 1:14:27Speaker 1: T shirts reading what is a Bosworth Nothing? However, the
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: fans did not know that Bosworth's company manufactured the shirts.
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: Good for him. Yeah, so all right, well it's been
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: an hour this this podcast. But we've had so many
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: podcasts at this point over the fifteen years we've been
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: doing this that were longer than the movie. This is
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: way longer. This is two hours and fifteen minutes, and
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: this movie's like eighty five minutes. But it's that fucking good.
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: What is your stone cold advice? Mine would be Mine
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: would be see this, Mine would be just just have
- 1:15:15Speaker 1: fun with a movie like this. It doesn't need to
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: be You don't need to be a snob. And that's
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: the thing, is like I'm gonna pat myself on the back,
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: which I do every day. I love going to like
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: a Michelin Star restaurant and having a seven course meal.
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: I think that's so cool and fun. I also love McDonald's,
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: and I think that that and Ryan's the same way,
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: and I think that that's how I view movies too,
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: Like you can find enjoyment and fun in every kind
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: of genre and quality of film if they know what
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: they are and they're doing it the right way. Yeah, Andy,
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: what's your stone cold advice? Is?
- 1:16:01Speaker 2: Confidence is everything? I guess because I just feel like
- 1:16:07Speaker 2: he's a very confident guy and it got him a
- 1:16:09Speaker 2: lot of places. Right. He might not be a good cop,
- 1:16:11Speaker 2: he might not be good at this, but he was
- 1:16:14Speaker 2: confident all the time. He's in the grocery store, like
- 1:16:17Speaker 2: these guys have no shot. He knows it. He's getting
- 1:16:20Speaker 2: guns put in his face, He's going into biker gangs
- 1:16:23Speaker 2: with bulletproof vests. He stays confident. I would say confidence
- 1:16:27Speaker 2: is everything. Go boss, Go boss, boss.
- 1:16:33Speaker 3: Man, Go boss. There's the line in this movie that
- 1:16:39Speaker 3: Stone says to Lance and says, look, Lance, there's a
- 1:16:44Speaker 3: time to turn it on, and there is a time
- 1:16:49Speaker 3: to turn it on. So if you guys aren't watching
- 1:16:51Speaker 3: powers Lap, I don't know what the hell you're not doing.
- 1:16:55Speaker 3: So check it out, turn it off. You're gonna love it.
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: Ryan, that is, he's all about the ad revenue. Always
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: be closing. Also, A I D A. I don't remember
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: what it stands for, Like remember that was the other one. Yeah,
- 1:17:14Speaker 1: that's totally right. Also I have too. I just thought
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: of two more pieces of stone Cold advice. Number one,
- 1:17:20Speaker 1: listen listen to Ice. Always listen to Ice. He's your
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: considiary for a reason.
- 1:17:29Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: Number two stone cold advice. If you're approaching Stone Cold,
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: do not kick him in the stomach because he will
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: catch that kick. He will spin you around and you
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: just fell right into a stone Cold stunner.
- 1:17:42Speaker 3: So boom boom wards to live by.
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: That's one of one of the one of the hardest
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: Ryan and I ever laughed at. Like a pro wrestling
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: moment is poor Mick Foley is there's a scene where
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: like mankind is befriending Stone Cold, and for no reason,
- 1:18:00Speaker 1: stone Cold stunts him and then gets right in his face,
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: flips him off and says, DTA. It means don't trust anyone,
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: you stupid piece of trash.
- 1:18:10Speaker 3: It's if you can find it on YouTube. It is
- 1:18:13Speaker 3: so funny because it's not like he had a mic
- 1:18:15Speaker 3: in his hand, so it's like a camera might caught it.
- 1:18:17Speaker 3: So he's screaming this in this guy's face two inches
- 1:18:21Speaker 3: from his face. It's unbelievable.
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: Oh but if you wanted to catch us on Twitter,
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: I am always at the real Teal of Tequila. Sorry X,
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: it's called X now. Andy is at Ashley's husband one
- 1:18:37Speaker 1: two three, Thank you. Sorry, Ryan is power slap fanatic sixty.
- 1:18:52Speaker 3: No one had.
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: Scumbag. Scumbag that exion for trying that man should be
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: shot into the sun. Who has used your name? But
- 1:19:07Speaker 1: also I love how Andy's user name is the most
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: boring possible thing Ashley's husband one two three.
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: Uh, that's all It's all I got going.
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: Uh, but yeah, send us your send us your tiktoks
- 1:19:23Speaker 1: and your truth socials. You know that's we're all all
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: over that social media ship. So thank you for listening.
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Andy for coming.
- 1:19:35Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it anytime he's at work right now,
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: which is hilarious, So like, what are you doing here? Yeah,
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: just cleaning people dedicated to the pod.
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: The less thens as as you call them.
- 1:19:57Speaker 3: WO.
- 1:20:00Speaker 1: All right, on that note, thank you for listening. Catch
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: you on the flip