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Occult Feminism, Witches, and Black Magic With TL;DR | Rantzerker 195 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Good afternoon, good evening, good morning, wherever you may be. Welcome
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  Tony Badger Radio. My name is Brian. I'm here with Teal Dear,
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  friend of the Channel, and we are going to be talking about a book
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  by one Rachel Wilson called Occult Feminism. I think it's called The Secret of
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  Wait, it's called The Secret History of Women's Liberation. Yeah, a cult
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  feminism, the Secret History of Women's liberation. And this is part of It's
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  just kind of an interesting bit of a coincidence because Tel dear, you started
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  looking into a kind of I don't know how you would describe it, but
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  a link between spiritualism or the occult, and you know, ideologies like feminism
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  right in this and I wasn't really looking into that, but I was interested
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  in different perspectives of sort of you know, anti feminist content. And I
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  can across this book and then I mentioned it to you. Is that like
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  fair to say? Is that your current ongoing project. Yeah, it's just
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  that feminism, intersectionality, the critical x is, the critical theories, critical
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  studies, all of that stuff. All of that is based on the writings
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  of Hegel, and all of his stuff is spiritual in origin. And a
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  lot of people who talk about that stuff they like to say, oh,
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  well, but it's all based on Marx, and therefore the spiritualism doesn't count.
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  No, that's nonsense. The way Marx phrased it, and a lot
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  of the terminology that he used is Hegelian, and this stuff shares a similar
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  origin point. There's also a lot of close links between socialism more broadly in
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  feminism throughout its entire history. So it's not exactly a shocking thing to say
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  that feminism has religious or origs to it, has spiritual origins to it,
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  and they happen to be the same spiritual points that you find in gnostic traditions.
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  This is all going back to neoplatonism, and they're the same ones which
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  come up through things like hermetica, and that is the stuff that leads you
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  into spiritualism, which is the I think I've mentioned before, the the stereotype
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  of the little old woman in with her shawl on in the darkened room,
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  possibly in a gypsy wagon sort of thing, with the crystal ball and all
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  the taro and all of that SFF. The reason that stereotype exists is because
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  of the spiritualist movement in the late eighteen hundreds to early nineteen hundreds, and
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  all of that stuff led you to the foundation of Theosophy, which was the
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  sort of major spiritualist revival, and that came about because of Helene and Blovatski,
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  and she was a woman who Part of the reason that Theosophy took off
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  at this time is that this was obviously the eighteen hundreds. This was sort
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  of a high point for things like the Empire, and so there was quite
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  a lot of archaeological discovery coming out of places like the Middle East, and
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  there were trade routes being opened up to the Orient, out to China and
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  out to India and places like that, and so theosophy began basically finding Western
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  mysticism and marrying that with Eastern mysticism, because there was the tying between the
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  two at the time, because basically people realized, well, hey, there's
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  an Indo, a common Indo aryan ancestor to both parts of these things that
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  they've obviously were fractured off from each other. So there's similarities and points of
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  interest there. And there was a lot of archaeological evidence coming out of the
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  Middle East and sort of the Orient, and that part of Asia as well,
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  and so Theosophy took to marrying all of that together along with the newer
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  elements of science at the time which was coming out, because this was of
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  course also the same sort of time where things like the theory of evolution started
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  really taking off, moving people away from the idea of the intelligent creator sort
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  of things. So it's like, no, actually, this is something that
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  is evolving and changing, and therefore we could influence that. And it started
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  taking those clearly evolving spiritualist routs and combining them with the basically the sort of
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  new science of evolution and its little sub sections which we now know to be
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  kind of pseudo scientific but also kind of a thing depends and a lot of
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  it depends on definitions of things like eugenics and Malthusianism, and so this sort
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  of started drawing all of those things together. And this is why when you
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  look at the early spiritualism things like Theosophy, you find they make use of
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  a lot of the Middle Eastern and Far Eastern symbolism. So you see things
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  like, I mean, even the theosophical logo itself is like a star of
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  David with an ome in the middle of it, and They frequently make use
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  of things like that with the winged sun symbol, which is the symbol you've
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  probably seen but don't know the name of. It's the circle. It's the
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  Egyptian thing, which is the circle representing the sun, and it's got the
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  wings horizontally coming out of it, and they're very flat along the top and
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  kind of turn up a little bit on either side. The reason that all
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  of that stuff sort of became kind of trendy around that time was because these
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  were all new discoveries, and these were things which were very They basically became
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  sort of the upper upper crust thing and assure as it were that everyone was
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  like, oh, this is you know, if you have an interest in
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  these things, that means you're sort of part of this upper crust of society.
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  Because obviously you've got all of this money. You can go and you
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  can travel to these far off exotic places and deal with all of these new
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  interesting ideas, and you can afford to just go and vanish for two or
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  three years and go and travel in India, and go and live with all
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  of these spiritual teachers of this far off, you know, exotic religion that
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  we don't really know everything about and it just sort of rolled from there.
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  And this is why it's quite interesting that feminism and theosophy, which was the
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  ultimate sort of genesis of it, was basically really big and pushed by like
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  a small number of very rich and influential women, mostly women. There were
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  some men with it, and that's actually something that this book is actually quite
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  good for the occult feminism, which is obviously what we're here to talk about.
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  That has sort of really helped to demonstrate that because I've been sort of
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  looking through all the people that I can find, and this is basically just
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  a has got a few sections, which is basically just a who's who of
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  just like legwork that I now don't have to do, which is nice,
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  which ties all the thing together. Yeah, so okay, this is I'm
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  sorry we're gonna get into the topic, but I'm just curious. So you
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  get you have you have the this is like the eighteen hundreds, and you
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  have all of this this kind of trendy spiritualism that's becoming cool, but only
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  for elites because normal people they're just too busy and they don't get to travel,
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  and of course they're poor and like you know, going to far off
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  exotic places. Was very very expensive. I mean, it took a long
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  time. You need a lot of free time on your hand to do it.
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  Was there some? Was there a connection between this kind of you know,
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  trendy spiritualist or various spiritual movements that were going on and the Enlightenment?
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  Was there some because it seems like it's around the the Industrial Revolution, Like
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  was this around like all these things kind of you know, bleeding into each
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  other in some way a little bit? I think I think I think the
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  Enlightenment technically started like a couple of hundred, like one hundred or so years
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  before that. I think I'm not exactly sure what the exact yeah, because
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  you know, just sort of looking at a general evolution of ideas at the
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  time, and honestly, a lot of this stuff just seems to have been
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  kind of a perfect storm just and I'm happy to say that that's just my
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  opinion on it. Sure, but a lot of stuff just seems to have
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  lined up very very well. Like you got a bunch of like you had
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  a society that was quite in chiller, as a lot of them were at
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  the time, just because people couldn't move. There was no such thing as
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  mass transit really outside of seafaring vessels. But their idea of mass transit was
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  like, oh, we're able to move a couple of hundred people at a
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  time. Oh yeah, really, okay, great, we've got things that
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  can do that in cities and there's thousands of them running around all the time.
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  But you know, that was their idea of it. Yeah, And
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  it was a time when you started getting empire happening. So you started obviously
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  having the British Empire, having the Portuguese and the French, and they were
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  really going out and going to all these far off places and coming back,
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  and so there was sort of this almost of going to all of these far
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  off flung places, and because of that, you started getting exposed to all
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  sorts of the spiritual ideas, all sorts of other religious ideas, because if
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  you look at a lot of the like basically almost all the religious schisms for
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  like the last millennia throughout Europe have basically all been varying flavors of Christianity fighting
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  each other over whose particular opinion about it was right or wrong. And suddenly
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  you're like, oh, there's actually all of these other things that are happening,
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  and they started sort of being just more exposed to them as opposed to
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  like, Okay, we know that there are other places far off with different
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  religions and different ideas, like we know that they exist. But with the
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  expansion of empire, those things started becoming more accessible because you started getting more
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  trade, you started getting more flows of ideas, more flows of people and
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  things like that. And as a result of that, I think you started
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  getting people moving more away from the sort of Christian traditions, not not necessarily
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  moving away from the Abrahamic per se, but that was also the time where
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  you had the Protestant ideal which would eventually morph itself into the into the scientific
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  method. And this is you know where you get some of the angry atheists
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  who allowed, no science is not religion, rare, and no it is.
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  It's there. There's a reason why the phrase I don't remember who said
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  it, but the one where it's like if you if you take a sip
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  from the chalice of science, you'll be an atheist, but if you drink
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  to the bottom of it, God is waiting sort of thing. It's it's
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  basically the idea that if you follow it back far enough to its origin point,
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  you do eventually end up at something religious because religious and spiritual underpinning are
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  basically the underpinning for everything. Eventually, when you go back far enough,
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  and the scientific method grew out of one of basically Protestantism, because Protestantism one
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  branch. But it makes sense because I mean, like, you know,
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  Isaac Newton was religious, but he's Isaac Newton, so it's not like those
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  things couldn't coexist. So yeah, all the scientific people at the time were
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  religious, and so out of this part of Protestantism you ended up with this
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  idea of people basically observing the world and saying there is an underlying order to
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  everything, like if I drop this thing, it will fall consistently at this
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  speed and obviously referencing Newton here, and no matter where I am, it
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  does the same thing. It doesn't matter how high up I am. It
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  reaches a terminal velocity and then it falls consistently, so there is a bit
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  of build up and then it hits terminal and then it just keeps going.
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  And I can be stand on top of a building and do it, It'll
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  be the same. I can be standing on the ground and do it.
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  I can go underground into the tunnels and do it, it'll be the same.
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  I could climb to the top of a mountain and do it. It'll
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  be the same. And all of these things, and obviously you had other
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  things as well, like people started dabbling around with things like physics, and
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  you started getting people understanding things like lenses and how you can reflect, refract
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  and split light into different colors and things like that. Was all of these
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  things taken together, and especially also you had a lot of art as well,
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  and a lot of art theory obviously a lot of sort of color theory
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  and things like that, the science of how you would create things like that,
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  and there are a lot of questions also around things like music. There's
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  something which I suppose a bit of a tangent here, was actually called the
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  Gay Science, which some people will will recognize as the title of one of
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  Nietzsche's works. But the reason that he picked that title was because the phrase
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  the gay science is actually a trueba Doric reference, so for people who sing
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  and perform, because there is a belief, yes, so because there was
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  sort of believed to be a science behind the multiple elements of a performance like
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  that. So that this is where you start talking about things like the apolline
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  and the dionysis of stage play to music and combining the two things together,
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  and why do people enter into these you know, sort of states of almost
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  like meditative transcendence when they view things that are beautiful. And it started creating
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  all these ideas that there is some underlying order to these things and that we
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  are in some way keyed to respond to them. But the idea that all
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  of these things have like some underlying order to them, the ability to reproduce
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  those things, that is where the scientific method came from. It grew in
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  it, like inevitably almost out of that because if you look at the way
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  that, as the religious would say, God created things, well, they
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  were created with a set of rules, and then the scientific method is just
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  how do we understand those rules. Now, it doesn't require you to actually
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  believe in God to observe those rules. But the people who observed that these
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  things are constant, they were religious at the time, and it was from
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  that that you've got the idea that, oh, there is an overarching order
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  to this thing. Yeah, yeah, and yeah, I thought that was
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  worth bringing up because I think that when we are going to talk about feminism
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  and its relationship to the occult. I think for me, it's important to
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  put in context that, like, you know, we didn't like our society
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  is far more secular now than it was, and so we got to look
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  at like, well, you know, because my first thought would be,
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  why would women's liberation even require a spirit utual like sort of birthplace. And
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  I think that when you understand like how humans were, it's that that would
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  partly perhaps answer that question. I don't know, like and I think that
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  it's all about essentially just inverting everything. I mean, I don't know if
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  that makes sense. But that's because I listened to Rachel Wilson's book, so
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  I have it on audio. I listened to it. It was a while
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  ago, and there was a lot of interesting stuff in it. And then
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  I watched most of your video where you reviewed her book, and I think
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  that but like, by and large, outside of you know, just for
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  for full disclosure, guys, Rachel Wilson, who wrote the book, who
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  I'm also waiting to hear back from her about coming on the show. She
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  said she would, but she got sick and we'll see, Well, we'll
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  have her on at some point she is writing, she wrote this book from
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  the perspective of an Orthodox Christian, and the Orthodox Church is like a lot
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  of people call it the weird Church. It's like Jonathan Pagot, who like
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  has that channel called the Symbolic World. He is an Orthodox Christian, and
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  so it's she's writing from that perspective. But if you can sort of like,
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  you know, understand where her biases are at and just look at what
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  she's saying, there is a lot of interesting stuff. And I think it
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  might be her first book. I don't know, though, I didn't honestly
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  look at her to see if she's written more, but I know that she's
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  self published this one, and yeah, everything else is no. That's really
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  her only book from what I can see. So that being said, though,
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  she goes into essentially this whole well, actually, let me just read
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  the summary and then we'll get into til Deer's video. Occult Feminism. The
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  Secret History of Women's Liberation dives deep into the occult route to the movement,
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  detailing the lives of some of its most prominent figures and the esoteric beliefs that
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  inspire and motivated them Since the nineteen seventies, Everything we learned about the history
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  of the women's movement has been subject to gatekeeping by radicals who run women's studies
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  departments in universities. Frankly, I don't think they're radical. I think that
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  that's pretty much like normal feminism. There's no radical feminism, there's just feminism.
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  But there's an entire history that has been obscured from public view. Rachel
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  Wilson brings this history to life, filled with incredible true stories of demon worships,
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  spirit mediums, magic mushrooms, witchcraft, cia, spies, and sex
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  cults. There's nothing boring about the real history of feminism and it's all here.
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  So I thought it was super fascinating to learn about. Although a lot
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  of it is stuff that I already knew, but there were some pretty interesting
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  things about it. So I guess Fieldre, what do your I don't know
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  anything you want to get into regarding this book that you thought stood out or
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  you found extra interesting. Well, yes, the orthodox bias was one thing
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  that stood out where a fairly copious amount of the notes which I've got written
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  and went through in that video is just okay, this is where the author,
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  this is where the the bias, you know, the author starts going
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  full orthodox at you, and here's why this is wrong, and it's annoying
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  that I have to do that, And it's normally just because it's a bunch
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  of fairly standard Christian lies regarding paganism, which annoyed me a little bit.
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  But we don't really have to go into that in any notable depth because frankly,
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  it's kind of part of the course when you get people who buy into
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  one religion wholeheartedly. Obviously at that point all other religions are wrong. It
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  just would have been nice if you could like keep a lid on that almost
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  because it's to me that spoils the bits of the book which are actually like
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  good and there is a lot of good stuff that is in there, as
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  I even said in my introduction right up of it, like although although the
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  introduction of my my writer by I say, like, yeah, I've gone
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  pretty hard on this thing in the introduction, but there is a lot of
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  good stuff in it. I want to talk about those now, But that
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  that is one thing that really did Yeah, I just want to give to
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  you. If you read it, you might feel preached at, and to
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  a degree you are being preached at, but that doesn't mean that there's no
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  value in it. Yeah, I mean I I put it in. Yeah.
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  My relationship when it comes to the Christians is for the most part,
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  I put them in the fifty one percent category where it's like, okay,
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  there's more there's more agreement than disagreement. I'm happy to leave it there and
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  we can just chat about things that we find interesting while not going into the
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  forty nine percent that is disagreement. I presume it's not important either way,
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  but I presume that you're an atheist. Right. Defining myself that way is
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  easier than actually explaining what I so, yes, that's okay. I call
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  myself agnostic for many, many years because I didn't want to answer the question,
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  mostly because I don't really know how to answer it. But it's always
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  a difficult one for people to explain because you end up with people where they're
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  like, well, atheism just really means like not holding to a particular theistic
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  thing, which would be religion. And therefore a lot of people would say
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  yes, because you're not part of a structured thing, but they still hold
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  a bunch of like non materialistic beliefs on top of that, like they have
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  believes in some sort of metaphysic thing there, yeah, anyway underneath it,
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  and it's just yeah, yeah, it's just a way that people phrase things
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  really because it's like I have thoughts and I can't be bothered to deal with
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  explaining them right now. So yeah, yeah, but either way, either
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  way that I'm bringing this up because again, I think that people tend to
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  be religious minded regardless. I mean you only have to look at and we're
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  talking about like the overwhelming majority of people, regardless of what they tell you
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  their faith is, they do have a tendency to behave in a religious or
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  at least ritualistic fashion. If you look at if you remember the Summer of
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  Love when there were all these riots going on, there were people washing the
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  feet of blacks in protest. I mean, they were engaging in religious rituals.
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  So it's weird, but I mean I think it is. It is
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  something about human nature that is just like really hard to shake. And that's
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  why I'm fascinated by this, because I think that women's liberation or feminism could
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  have simply been political, but it's not. It's well, it's obviously not
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  because it isn't even logical it's purely religions and fields based. Yeah, I
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  think that there is some degree of truth to the idea that humans are almost
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  hardwired to have some sort of metaphysical belief, even if it doesn't manifest as
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  God or God's but even if it's just yeah, even if it's just believing
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  in things that have no basis in reality, like the idea of you being
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  lucky or unlucky. Sorry, luck doesn't exist in the wrong body or something.
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  Yeah. Yeah, it's like a lot of these things like that,
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  they don't exist. Like if you think you're a lucky person, you're not.
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  It's just like you're just not it. You're subject to a lot of
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  things by random chance, like okay, okay, like yeah, we we
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  might be able to quantify some of that, but across the entirety of your
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  lifetime, you're going to end up somewhere around the average like everyone else.
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  So you're thinking that this is a thing that's happening. Is no, you're
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  just you're you're giving into some sort of metaphysical thinking there. And I think
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  some of the other cases of examples of metaphysical thinking, it just it seems
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  to just be an evolutionary adaptation. I know that we're going far afield from
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  the book here, but I think I wanted to at least like sort of
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  establish that because I do think that it's not something we can easily ignore.
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  So no, I think a lot of it stems from the ability of humans
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  to project their minds into other circumstances, and also our tendency to be able
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  to personify and anthropomorphize things, because if you look at a lot of the
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  origins of religion, it's basically just all animism, which is personification and anthropomorphizing
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  nature. It's like it's imagining. It's imagining the rocks having a human will
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  or a human desire, the lake having some sort of will or some sort
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  of desire, being happy about things, being mad about things. The mountains
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  they do the same thing. All of this other stuff is just building and
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  building and building and allowing that thing to grow. And I think this is
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  just simply a natural evolution of being frankly, a big brained animal, like
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  a big brain social animal, like you have to have the ability to understand
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  how other people think. In order to be social, you have to be
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  able to do things like that. You have to be able to project yourself
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  into other people's shoes. You have to be able to pass things like the
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  sally An test, which most people do. They don't learn to do that.
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  That's something that turns on innately about three years old roughly, So you
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  have to be able to do all of these things. It's also like why
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  are thing? Why are there plenty of psychological studies regarding things like things like
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  violence and suicide, Like why do most people actually, at some point in
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  their lives think about if they were to kill themselves or think about murdering people?
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  Like It's things like that are amazingly common, Like if people get that,
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  people feel bad for their like, oh, I shouldn't be thinking about
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  murdering this persons. No, you're completely normal, just like everyone does it,
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  literally everyone. And the reason that you have those those little thoughts,
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  those random desires, you know, that little voice in the back of your
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  head when you're on a high thing that's saying, what if you jumped though?
• 26:23
  But what if you did though? Like, the ability to do that
• 26:27
  is projecting yourself into the future so that you can kill literally millions of versions
• 26:33
  of yourself and other people in hypothetical manners, so that you the actual material,
• 26:37
  one that exists doesn't die, and I think just you take all of
• 26:41
  that stuff together, that is the foundation for metaphysics. As far as I
• 26:45
  can see it. It just seems to be something that is basically almost like
• 26:51
  a maladaptation, but it works, and it just seems to be there almost
• 26:56
  as a byproduct, and so I think it's inevitable. Frankly, Yeah,
• 27:04
  no, absolutely, I think so too. That's why I said, you
• 27:07
  know, like, this shouldn't be this should be an interesting Uh look,
• 27:11
  so okay. One of the first things I think, you guys in the
• 27:17
  audience might already know this, but we do have some new peoples maybe you
• 27:19
  don't. One of the first things I think, or at least one of
• 27:22
  the more important things that her book reveals, is something that we have talked
• 27:26
  about in the past, which is that feminism or women's liberation is not,
• 27:32
  in fact a grassroots movement. It did not develop organically, and it was
• 27:36
  not the case that most women actually wanted this is now. I don't know
• 27:42
  if that was at all surprising to you, but no, not particularly right.
• 27:49
  But what's the I saw purely on the modern the modern incarnation of it,
• 27:56
  because anytime you look at these feminist things that come out like anything can
• 28:03
  happen somewhere in the world, and suddenly you have a bunch of these far
• 28:07
  left progressive types. And this doesn't have to be specifically related to feminism,
• 28:11
  but feminism is a part of it. That the general social justice millie,
• 28:15
  the general cause that they all rally around because they are all fundamentally progressives and
• 28:21
  Marxists like that. There's no way of getting around that, and anything happens,
• 28:25
  and within hours you can have coach loads of people with pre made signs
• 28:32
  that are all the same. It's obviously not stuff that's been scrawled on a
• 28:34
  bit of paper with some felt tip pens. They're printed out and there's dozens
• 28:41
  or hundreds of them, which literally means when you get things like some police
• 28:45
  officer does his job and something goes a little awry somewhere like the next day,
• 28:52
  all of these things shp, it's like, I'm sorry, there is
• 28:53
  some There is something obviously behind this, There is something funding this, there
• 28:59
  is something aging this. And we know that there are these big slush fund
• 29:03
  activist groups sort of things, and it's it's providing the capital that allows those
• 29:11
  things to manifest. As we see them like, you can't avoid seeing those
• 29:15
  things unless you are willfully blind to it. And that's just in the modern
• 29:21
  time, you see these things happening. So it doesn't surprise me at all
• 29:26
  that that was the entire basis for the movement. Frankly, yeah, of
• 29:30
  course. And these kinds of like lefty Kami movements can only actually manifest in
• 29:37
  a time of well relative comfort, right, so when people have like like
• 29:42
  right now, people are demanding free shit because we live in such a great
• 29:47
  time. But in somewhere you know, where people are on a verge of
• 29:51
  poverty and there's a high crime rate and a low life expectation, people are
• 29:56
  not thinking about that. They're not worried about you know, free internet or
• 30:00
  whatever. So what was something? What was it? Well, okay,
• 30:04
  so what's something about this book that you really do want to like touch on
• 30:08
  that you thought was partically interesting or that you needed to be fute? I
• 30:14
  suppose, Well, I mean we can go through the fact that this was
• 30:18
  totally not grassroots. I meant that at that point you're you're looking at who
• 30:25
  were the some of the early people and where did their funding come from?
• 30:30
  And there is actually basically an entire chapter about that, and it it goes
• 30:33
  through and it talks about yes, yeah, yeah, Rockefeller, Rockefellers do
• 30:42
  get named. A couple of Vanderbilt is the one I was trying to remember.
• 30:45
  Vanderbilt. Yep, they also get it as well, because, as
• 30:49
  it turns out, you you get people like Helena Blavatski and Annie Besant as
• 30:55
  well, who is also mentioned. And these are people who ended up getting
• 31:02
  fair amounts of funding from a lot of these organizationship people like the Rockfellers and
• 31:07
  people like the Vanderbilts. I'm trying to quickly find the exact names of it
• 31:11
  in Maya in the rite up here. Let's see if I can. No,
• 31:21
  I think I've gone past. It doesn't matter. But the point is
• 31:23
  that there is a lot of ties between those things, and you you end
• 31:29
  up realizing that a lot of the publishing companies that a lot of these women
• 31:34
  would start running because you know, of course they all had had publishing companies
• 31:38
  being funded by people, and as it turns out, it's always like a
• 31:41
  rich person that's funding it, because of course it is like how else are
• 31:45
  you going to run an yes? So yeah, like like the journal Lucifer,
• 31:55
  which was it was written by one of Blovatski's adepts. That was Mabel
• 31:59
  Colin, who funded that, who uh wrote for that? Yeah, and
• 32:06
  a lot of these things just end up hanging. Let me see if I
• 32:07
  can find quickly, really hope if I could spell Van the belt doing a
• 32:14
  word such s? All right? In the meantime, I'm gonna read.
• 32:16
  I'm gonna read a super chat that I just got while you're looking for that.
• 32:21
  Iggy Thunders gives us five dollars and says, Brian, have you reached
• 32:23
  out to six hex and Hammer he's a curator for a cult literature and a
• 32:27
  buddy of Razors. For five dollars, thank you, Iggy. No,
• 32:30
  I mean I did, like a while ago. Uh, like a like
• 32:36
  a while ago. I reached out to him and he was interested. But
• 32:40
  I haven't heard from him in a bit, and it's okay. I'm not
• 32:44
  all that uh concerned, Like I mean, it'd be nice, you know,
• 32:47
  but uh, I don't know if I'm gonna I don't know if I'm
• 32:51
  gonna hear from him, but i'd be curious. I don't know what his
• 32:54
  thoughts are on like this kind of stuff. In terms of like you know,
• 33:00
  feminism as a hate movement or whatever. He might be one of these
• 33:02
  kind of you know, moderate sims that were like, oh, you know,
• 33:07
  at one point in history, this was a good thing. Blah blah
• 33:09
  blah. So I don't know, but I will try again, Iggy,
• 33:14
  I did want to get him on. I don't know if that would be
• 33:16
  a really great topic, but it could be. Okay till did you find
• 33:20
  it? Yes, said it. I will quickly say on the simping for
• 33:23
  feminism thing, everyone goes through that. I think because you're so you're so
• 33:30
  steeped in feminism being the good thing, like you are literally told that from
• 33:36
  birth, and so I think everyone has that opinion at some point. It's
• 33:39
  just a case of basically getting them to realize that they've been lied to their
• 33:44
  entire life about that, which it's hard too. It's hard. It is
• 33:47
  when when people learn that, I can understand that it makes them angry.
• 33:52
  Yeah. And also I suppose a psychological tangent there when people have deeply held
• 33:59
  beliefs that if something actually challenges them, Paradoxically, for most people, it
• 34:04
  ends up pushing them deeper into the belief rather than pulling them out. Of
• 34:07
  it. So what you have to do is you normally just have to keep
• 34:10
  presenting it, but in such a way that they become receptive to it to
• 34:15
  a point where they end up thinking that it was their own idea. Like
• 34:21
  they have to read themselves out of it, because unsurprisingly, no amount of
• 34:27
  finding people and just screaming it's it's like, unsurprisingly that doesn't work. Whoever
• 34:35
  would have guessed, but it doesn't. You have to sort of give people
• 34:38
  time and space. You got to let them figure it out on their own.
• 34:45
  Yeah. So on on the topic of the who gets the funding and
• 34:51
  whatnot, we can talk You can talk about them. People that were mentioned
• 34:53
  in this book, like the Woodall sisters Victoria and Tennessee Woodhull under the maiden
• 35:01
  name Klaflin. They were a pair of con artists. They traveled around America
• 35:08
  using fordulent medium, mediumship, clairvoyance, and spiritual healing, so very much
• 35:15
  in line with the spiritualist way of doing things like oh, we're going to
• 35:19
  do tarot readings and we're going to wave candles of people. And they would
• 35:23
  actually also try to cure people with effectively snake oil potions and magnets and all
• 35:30
  the typical New Age nonsense, and so they were basically constantly on the road
• 35:37
  as a means of avoiding legal action against them, and they they would end
• 35:44
  up having a house somewhere in New York, and they would end up actually
• 35:52
  in a personal and professional relationship. The pair of them with Cornelius Vanderbilt,
• 35:57
  who was one of the richest people in the time, is one of the
• 36:00
  raal moguls of the error and effectively basically one of the richest people to have
• 36:05
  ever lived. He repeatedly made use of them as spiritualist mediums, so they
• 36:10
  would put on their head scarf and dim the lights and go oh spiritually talking
• 36:15
  to me, and he would believe everything that they said. But as it
• 36:22
  turns out, the sisters had a third friend, Josie Mansfield, who was
• 36:27
  a prostitute who was applying her trade to a bunch of Wall Street bankers.
• 36:34
  So effectively they were committing fraud because they were basically just buying tips off,
• 36:39
  you know, pillow talk tips off of this prostitute and then presenting them to
• 36:45
  this guy who then would go on to fund a paper that they would because
• 36:52
  of course he would fund their publication, which was woodul and Claflin Weekly,
• 36:55
  which by very odd coincidence, was the first publication in the Western world to
• 37:01
  carry the Communist Manifesto translated into English. What an interesting coincidence that is that
• 37:12
  that is an interesting coincidence. So yeah, so you can see that the
• 37:19
  the the sort of I don't know, the threads right, Feminism does not
• 37:25
  exist in a vacuum obviously, and uh, it's it's part of I think,
• 37:32
  well, I don't want to get into that right now. But so
• 37:36
  we got the what you were saying about these various you know, pretty either
• 37:43
  rich people or people who were connected to rich people, like the woman who
• 37:46
  was a prostitute, that sort of like you know, got this ball rolling.
• 37:53
  Is there is there anything about like how it really started started? Like
• 37:58
  are we talking that this out of Protestantism or out of Christianity itself or is
• 38:05
  it just like the way of female nature to like, no matter where you
• 38:09
  are in the world, there's going to be women trying to you know,
• 38:15
  seize power essentially in their in their own subtle way. Yeah, it make
• 38:25
  sense. I don't know if yeah, yeah, yes, no, it's
• 38:29
  what you're seeing here, I think is it is the perfect storm of what
• 38:32
  was happening at the time, and just female nature expressed within that environment.
• 38:38
  Yeah, I think there's a reason why feminism came about just now, you
• 38:43
  know, just just so happened to coincide with the industrial revolution. It all
• 38:47
  just so happened to go inside with that, just so happened to go inside
• 38:51
  with the advent of hormonal birth control, just so happened to come out at
• 38:54
  the time when humanity basically made it so that ninety something percent of people didn't
• 39:00
  have to be engaged in agriculture in order to live. Yes, right,
• 39:07
  we had, we had. I think it's inevitable. Was that. I
• 39:12
  just think that this is an inevitable thing, Like you're just seeing human nature
• 39:16
  and in this that instance, female nature being expressed within the environment. Because
• 39:22
  anytime you see other countries going through similar industrialization places like China, for instance,
• 39:30
  you actually see the exact same patterns of behavior rising a lot of the
• 39:35
  Like there's one of the biggest studies which I've ever referenced on my channel regarding
• 39:39
  the practice of hypergamy, which is a female mating strategy of equal to or
• 39:45
  greater social states than themselves. And what a surprise, you know, that
• 39:50
  stuff just kicks up more and more and more as that country industrialized. The
• 39:54
  same things are happening in India now, Like why are all of these problems
• 40:00
  arising in those two countries like now whereas they've been happening in the West as
• 40:06
  of about fifty years ago. It's well, it's because there are a few
• 40:09
  decades behind on the scale of industrialization, and now that they're catching up,
• 40:15
  they're exhibiting all of the same problems as well. And they're doing that despite
• 40:21
  the fact that they have different economic things because obviously we're looking at you can't
• 40:27
  call it free market exchange. We don't have that in the West, where
• 40:30
  our markets are far too controlled and influenced by the government for that to be
• 40:34
  true. But you've got that happening there. And then you've got the communists
• 40:37
  in China, so something completely different, completely different economic model India or they
• 40:45
  they kind of they're closer to us in that. My god, this is
• 40:51
  related. But did you know about in Jong un in North Korea? I
• 40:58
  am aware of his existence. Yes, yeah, you to do now.
• 41:00
  He made a speech he did like a plea to North Korean women to make
• 41:08
  babies because their birth rates are in decline. So North Korea probably the most
• 41:15
  authoritarian country in the world that I know of anyway, run by a communist
• 41:20
  dictator. He's he basically still has to essentially beg women to make babies so
• 41:27
  that his country can can continue to because without people, you have no country.
• 41:34
  And but the funniest thing is is that North Korea's replacement rate or their
• 41:39
  birth rate is still higher than South Korea's, which is like in real serious
• 41:47
  danger of imploding. So yeah, And the advantage of also being able to
• 41:53
  cite places late North Korea and other very insular nations like Japan is that that
• 42:02
  basically allows you to again, you're still seeing the same thing and this is
• 42:07
  just basically as a result of technological advancement because of the insular nature of places
• 42:15
  like Japan and North Korea. It basically allows you to start indicating that this
• 42:20
  is not like a westernizing effect. This is not like you know, Empire
• 42:25
  going in and saying you're going to have markets our way, you're going to
• 42:29
  worship our God, you're going to eat our food, you're going to dress
• 42:31
  like we are. It doesn't seem like that's the case. Maybe you could
• 42:38
  make a case for a sort of unified globalizing effect where all of these things
• 42:47
  come together. But I think even then you're pushing it given how insular some
• 42:52
  of those countries are, And so this just sort of leads me more towards
• 42:58
  saying I think that this is more something that humans will just manifest when you
• 43:02
  put them in the environment that you're in. Yep, yep. Anyway,
• 43:12
  so I just thought I would I would mention that that, yeah, I
• 43:15
  think this is really it ultimately comes down to the perfect storm of industrialization,
• 43:23
  the birth control pill, and with female nature just manifesting. So let's get
• 43:31
  back to the book. So what's another thing that you want to that we
• 43:37
  could talk about that was of interest to you. Well, it's also interesting,
• 43:43
  you know, while we talk about things like lowering birth rates there there
• 43:47
  was an interesting thing that a bunch of the anti soffragists, which was actually
• 43:52
  most people throughout history who started opposing these things, they predicted a bunch of
• 44:00
  these problems and be like, yeah, no, apparently if women go out
• 44:01
  and work, then you're going to start seeing declining birth rates, and that,
• 44:06
  of course happened. They're going to be working instead of making babies.
• 44:08
  Yes, And this is I suppose where we do have to address the the
• 44:14
  Tradcock argument, which I've been seeing a lot these days, as people literally
• 44:17
  just saying, just get married and have babies, bro everything, and we
• 44:21
  find Bro's society will reverse itself. Brow it won't. You're literally just telling
• 44:25
  men to shove themselves into a meat grinder that's going to kill them. Please
• 44:29
  don't do that. Yes, well, I've mentioned this many times. There
• 44:34
  was a well, actually, and this is gonna I'm okay. You know
• 44:42
  Lyndon Perry or LP. He has a channel called I Hypocrite. I think
• 44:45
  I think he had you on his show once. Maybe not. If he
• 44:51
  did, I don't remember it. It doesn't it doesn't matter. He used
• 44:54
  to do men's rights content and then he kind of like is more of like
• 44:59
  a general sort of you know, right wing guy, and he talks about
• 45:05
  He has a series of videos called you Can't Stop Progress that he puts out
• 45:08
  every Sunday. They're very popular, lots of it's basically just pure cringe and
• 45:15
  the fall. It's like recording the fall of society, the fall of the
• 45:19
  West. But I remember I had him on or I was on his channel
• 45:23
  or something once and he was saying that he thinks that men should just lead
• 45:30
  and that women will follow. This is kind of a trad Coock position.
• 45:35
  And I said, I don't think that's gonna happen. And I said it's
• 45:38
  because we've liberated women too much, and he didn't believe me. He thought,
• 45:45
  no, no, this is what's gonna happen. But that's not happening.
• 45:46
  There was a study that he went through, like a lot, not
• 45:51
  that long ago that showed I think it was Generation Z men are moving further,
• 45:57
  you know, politically to the right. And I use that in quotes
• 46:00
  because I don't think it's a very clearly defined thing. But what I think
• 46:05
  it means is is that firstly that that boys are looking to embrace their masculinity,
• 46:09
  and I think that being masculine is seen as being right wing by basically
• 46:15
  everybody, and that women are moving further left, and so they're moving further
• 46:20
  apart, and it makes it makes sense. And he said, well,
• 46:23
  I guess they're not going to follow, and it's like, yeah, because
• 46:27
  why should they, like, you know, like, so it is going
• 46:30
  to be a problem and it's not going to be enough for men to simply
• 46:34
  man up. That that's just not going to work. So yeah, I'm
• 46:38
  just saying I agree with you. Yeah, well, this is what happens,
• 46:42
  unfortunately when you get people who attempt to deny that women exhibit made preference.
• 46:47
  Yeah, because it's you know, it's, well, how are you
• 46:50
  going to man up and get these women? Well, apparently the answer is
• 46:53
  six figures, six packs, six foot six inches, So every man has
• 47:00
  to be literally the top one percent of humanity. Mathematically, that doesn't work
• 47:05
  out. You women are asking for the impossible if that is the case,
• 47:12
  which is kind of where it's going. Yeah, So it's you can't just
• 47:17
  like this this just man up, bro, just do all this stuff.
• 47:21
  It's not that's not gonna work. No, Like, the actual problem in
• 47:24
  that scenario is female demand, and you cannot say that because people get very
• 47:30
  upset. They do. I'm bringing this up a lot. It's like,
• 47:34
  well, you're gonna have to change women's preferences the only way, and nobody
• 47:37
  wants to do. And that's what I find so bizarre about that because they
• 47:40
  get offended by that. And it's like, are you offended over the idea
• 47:45
  that women have standards and desires and things that they want? Like why do
• 47:50
  you not want to acknowledge that. Yeah, I know, it's I don't
• 47:55
  want to go down that rabbit hole. But it's frustrating because I see it
• 47:59
  everywhere. It's like it's I don't know, it's it's I think it's cowardice,
• 48:05
  and I don't understand it. It's like the people are more afraid to
• 48:07
  call out women than anything else, any other group of people. I mean,
• 48:12
  people will call out you know, minority groups, and they'll call out
• 48:16
  uh, trans people and drag Queen Story Hour and and fucking Jews, Like
• 48:24
  don't call all of that out is the mists, you know, but women,
• 48:29
  Oh no, they can't do it anyway. So yeah, that that's,
• 48:37
  uh, we're in this mess. So declining birth rates we're talking about
• 48:39
  that. Yes, that stems from the the anti suffrage people who pointed out
• 48:47
  that if you end up effectively removing the division of labor and also well doing
• 48:57
  what we've mentioned before, which is obliterating the home economy. And this is
• 49:00
  something that this book points out when mentioning the anti suffrage movement, the anti
• 49:07
  suffrage artwork and whatnot. On the objections that they had to it, they
• 49:12
  called it like a century ago and they were right about it. And this
• 49:17
  again indicates is sort of another part of the This was never grassroots because it
• 49:27
  has always actually been an unpopular position, like the feminist position was always the
• 49:35
  unpopular one. It was never the one that most people actually wanted in society,
• 49:38
  and yet somehow it still ended up getting getting past. And that's because
• 49:45
  it just seems like you had this small number of people who were funding these
• 49:51
  things. So we mentioned that Vanderbilts involved in this, there are plenty of
• 49:55
  other rich people who have bankrolled this. It's just it's very interesting because there
• 50:04
  is kind of a who's who sort of list of things that sort of shows
• 50:10
  you this. It's from chapter five. I might actually just read through that
• 50:15
  because it is only a couple of pages and I've got that there. I
• 50:17
  mean, I could actually just do the entire review of chapter five, which
• 50:21
  is an interesting one. Chapter five. You know, to remember the name
• 50:22
  of that chapter, I will look it up. Let's okay, guys,
• 50:30
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  platform, a lot of potential. Okay, did you find it, Let's
• 51:12
  get ready to rumble, etc. That should definitely be something you should add
• 51:17
  to the soundboard. But yes, Chapter five is funding for the passage of
• 51:22
  the nineteenth Amendment. I'll go through my write up on it, and that
• 51:27
  will include the couple of paragraphs which basically just gives you a bunch of who's
• 51:31
  who, because frankly, I suck at remembering names. So in the first
• 51:36
  part of chapter five, the author talks about women's suffrage and its immense lack
• 51:40
  of popularity, and actually she does have some statistics in there to back it
• 51:45
  up by talking about the exact numbers or some of the numbers from like early
• 51:50
  polling that sort of indicates its lack of the lack of optic for it.
• 51:59
  These we don't really need to cover because they've been covered numerous times over the
• 52:02
  years anyway. It also includes some examples of anti suffrage artwork and the propaganda
• 52:07
  posters, and some of the observations which came true, such as the lowering
• 52:13
  birth rates. My note here is just once again I would suggest the impacts
• 52:19
  of industry and birth control, with feminism being more of a symptom of this
• 52:23
  sort of underlying thing. And there's obviously caveats for feedback loops in certain bits
• 52:29
  of behavior, But as I said earlier in the rite up of this,
• 52:35
  I think a lot of this stuff you're seeing feminism as the reaction, part
• 52:38
  of the reaction, not the reagent of these things. So the more interesting
• 52:44
  part of the early section of this chapter is the observation that laws for suffrage,
• 52:47
  along with others such as gay marriage rights, seem to pass despite being
• 52:52
  unpopular with the public at the time, and that of course points the author
• 52:57
  in the direction of who's funding all of this, how does this stuff happen?
• 53:01
  And so from here we're just going to go. We'll just go from
• 53:06
  my page sixty five, I guess to sixty seven just because it, like
• 53:12
  I said, it's a list of names, and I suck at names.
• 53:15
  So perhaps the largest financier of the women's suffrage movement was Alva Vanderbilt Belmont born
• 53:21
  Alva Erskine Smith in Mobile, Alabama, in eighteen fifty three. He was
• 53:25
  born to a wealthy family. Her mother was the daughter of a US congressman,
• 53:30
  and her father was a successful commission merchant. In eighteen seventy five,
• 53:35
  she married William kiss and Vanderbilt, grandson of Cornelius Vanderbilt, who you may
• 53:39
  remember from his infamous dealings with Victoria Woodall, who I think we mentioned earlier
• 53:45
  her and her sister. So the Vanderbilts are one of the wealthiest, most
• 53:49
  influential families in the world at the time. Cornelius not only had an affair
• 53:53
  with Victoria's sister, Tennessee, but he funded the two sisters newspapers Woodhull and
• 53:59
  Claughlin Weekly, which they use to promote their ideas on free love, sex
• 54:01
  education, legalization of prostitution, vegetarianism, short skirts, women's rights, and
• 54:07
  no fault divorce, and suffrage interesting that they know no fault divorce, which
• 54:13
  of course is we're talking the eighteen hundreds. Yes, this is late eighteen
• 54:20
  before no fault divorce was in law, I think, yes, And this
• 54:24
  would have been in the eighteen seventies. Yeah, And apparently women's liberation is
• 54:29
  sort of like running parallel to things like sexual degeneracy and vegetarianism. Yeah,
• 54:37
  that's yeah, this is all just tying into the general spiritualism that is going
• 54:44
  on here, I think, I think so. Yeah. I do again
• 54:47
  have deeper notes on that in the full right up, which people can go
• 54:53
  and watch in their own time, but it's I also do have some notes
• 54:57
  throughout this that I think that even just the term women liberation is actually a
• 55:00
  spiritual term. I don't think it actually means because of its new age and
• 55:06
  says live to be liberals, to be a slave or something, which sounds
• 55:12
  like it sounds like an oxymoron. But I think she does explain it a
• 55:15
  little bit. But anyway, go ahead. The Christian calling someone else a
• 55:22
  slave, Nietzsche is amused. Remember this is in the eighteen seventies, but
• 55:28
  it's the same exact agenda of the counterculture radicals and the second Waivers of the
• 55:34
  nineteen sixties. This is important to note because, as you'll see, it's
• 55:37
  been the same wealthy families pushing this agenda for over a century. It's also
• 55:42
  important to note that William K. Vanderbilt was a founding member of the Jackal
• 55:45
  Ireland Club, which is where representatives of the richest men in the world met
• 55:49
  in secret in nineteen ten draft legislation to establish central banking in America under the
• 55:53
  Federal Reserve Act. Alva and William K. Vanderbilt had three children together before
• 55:59
  their divorce due to his infidelities in eighteen ninety five. This is another thing
• 56:05
  which you note throughout this book. Basically every single one of these women is
• 56:08
  divorced. Like almost all of the women that you get from this, they
• 56:14
  they come from divorce and usually end up very rich as a result of it,
• 56:17
  which is again just a very interesting thing that keeps cropping up over and
• 56:22
  over. So at the time when divorce was rare among the elite, Alva
• 56:25
  was awarded a financial sectld settlement of over ten million, which is the equivalent
• 56:30
  of over three hundred and twenty million in twenty twenty one. All that for
• 56:37
  marrying someone and then deciding she didn't want to be married anymore. Wow.
• 56:43
  Yeah, it's amazing how many of the richest women in the world get there
• 56:46
  by divorce and how that's never changed. Yeah, as well as she also
• 56:52
  got several of Vanderbilt's estates in that divorce as well, so this made her
• 56:58
  one of the richest women in the world. So one year later she remarried
• 57:02
  to Oliver has A Perry Belmont, one of her ex husband's friends. Oliver
• 57:07
  Belmont was the son of August Belmont, who was a wealthy investment banker for
• 57:10
  the Rothschild family. Oliver was a playboy with an affinity for absinthe, gambling
• 57:16
  and visiting brothels. He was sent to Germany to learn investment banking from the
• 57:21
  Rothschilds. Like his father, who was US Congressman Perry Belmont, Oliver had
• 57:28
  married was married to his first wife, Sarah at the time, but his
• 57:31
  addictions and carusing led to divorce. Oliver was a member of his father's banking
• 57:37
  firm, member of at least two elite secretive societies, which was the Lambs
• 57:42
  and the Sons of Revolution, as well as a delegate to the Democratic National
• 57:45
  Convention in nineteen hundred and a member of Congress from nineteen oh one to nineteen
• 57:50
  oh two. The author goes on to note about these societies that he was
• 57:53
  a member of the Lambs, being America's oldest theatrical club, which was founded
• 57:59
  in eighteen seventy four, is still located adjacent to the Rockefeller Center in New
• 58:01
  York City and was a precursor to the Screen Actors Guild, which is very
• 58:07
  influential in Hollywood these days. Yeah. Absolutely. The Sons of Revolution,
• 58:12
  which is an elite hereditary fraternity organization started in eighteen seventy six. The organization
• 58:16
  state's purpose as historical education and preservation, but it has a bunch of proofs
• 58:22
  that you basically have to be able to show that you have male ancestors who
• 58:28
  assisted American independence in order to get it. Otherwise you're not welcome. And
• 58:35
  she notes that that organization has had a bunch of very influential members such as
• 58:39
  George Bush Junior and Senior, who of course are also known to be members
• 58:44
  of the Skull and Bones Society and things like that. So she includes the
• 58:52
  history of Alva and her husbands in order to demonstrate her connections with wealthy elites
• 58:57
  and their positions of power and influence, where their vast fortunate fortunes came from,
• 59:02
  and their membership in secret societies. And upon his death, Alva dedicated
• 59:08
  her life Hang on Now. Upon his death, sorry, Alva dedicated her
• 59:13
  life to feminist causes, including suffrage. She donated vast sums of money to
• 59:16
  women's suffrage organizations in both the UK and the US. She frequently paid the
• 59:22
  bail of picketers and demonstrators in the suffrage movement. Where have we seen that
• 59:28
  before? In recent times? And she funded and organized large rallies and marches.
• 59:31
  Again, where have we seen this? She founded the Political Equality League
• 59:36
  in nineteen oh nine, helped gain votes for suffrage supporting candidates in New York.
• 59:39
  She purchased office space for the National American and Women's Suffrage Association and funded
• 59:46
  its National press Bureau. She convened a Conference of Great Women in nineteen fourteen
• 59:51
  at Marble House, which was one of her many inherited sprawling estates. She
• 59:55
  organized fundraisers attended by various wealth the New York elite, and is regarded by
• 1:00:04
  historians as being one of the largest single contributors to the financial success of the
• 1:00:07
  suffrage movement sounds like a bunch of stuff that's still going on today. I
• 1:00:15
  mean, yeah, like it, like it hasn't changed. Okay. The
• 1:00:22
  author does go on to mention another character, Phoebe Hurst, who has a
• 1:00:25
  very similar sort of history as it were, who I think was She married
• 1:00:30
  someone who of course died and left her a huge fortune worth millions. She
• 1:00:36
  went on to become a benefactor of the University of Berkeley in California, started
• 1:00:44
  establishing all sorts of spiritualist and cross religious sorts of organizations. You find a
• 1:00:51
  bunch of these women who do this as well. These are trans denominational and
• 1:00:58
  cross denominational sorts of organizations, because again, all this stuff ties into the
• 1:01:02
  New Age spiritualism side of it, which is very important for a lot of
• 1:01:07
  them, and the reason that trans denomination is very important to them, and
• 1:01:14
  one of the women mentioned and throughout this book, the author does mention that
• 1:01:22
  even the United Nations has things like trans denominational New Age caucuses at them for
• 1:01:29
  religions actually aiming at creating a sort of unified, one world religion. And
• 1:01:35
  that's actually a thing that they have. So it's just very interesting that there
• 1:01:39
  is that to it there. And the reason that the term trans denomination is
• 1:01:45
  very very important is because that is actually a term that is specifically tied to
• 1:01:51
  the occult belief of rose A Crucianism. It's a term that they use because
• 1:01:57
  the point of the rose A Crucions was going out and going into all sorts
• 1:02:01
  of existing cultures, adopting their way of dress, adopting their cultures and things
• 1:02:06
  like that, but then subverting them into one particular, one world religion.
• 1:02:14
  Basically, they went out with this express aim to basically say, yeah,
• 1:02:17
  no, wool religions can totally coexist. They just become one thing. Huh
• 1:02:28
  yeah, well, you know, we didn't get into Margaret Sayger yet,
• 1:02:35
  but I was just looking up. I don't know if you've seen this,
• 1:02:37
  because I think this is totally related. It's called the Jaffy Memo and it
• 1:02:45
  was essentially the mission statement put out by Planned Parenthood and it's affiliates. Because
• 1:02:55
  one of the things that I'm trying to like get at is what what does
• 1:03:01
  women's liberation want. It's not liberation for women. I don't think that's what
• 1:03:06
  it is. Because there were, like you said, a lot of women
• 1:03:09
  were not for this and yet I think that they have been conditioned to,
• 1:03:16
  you know, go along with it. I'm not saying that they wouldn't otherwise,
• 1:03:20
  but I'm saying that you took, you went with some from something that
• 1:03:22
  was very unpopular to something that is now normal normalized. And there was something
• 1:03:30
  in this Jaffy memo that I want to share, but before I do,
• 1:03:32
  I did get a super chow and I want to read it really quick.
• 1:03:37
  So thank you Asthrun for giving a five dollars. And he says, interesting
• 1:03:40
  how the Vanderbilts Dutch Americans had all this influence while also being Freemasons or a
• 1:03:46
  Freemason is how he wrote it. But I think you mean that one of
• 1:03:51
  them was a Freemason or whatever. This talk makes me want to dive more
• 1:03:54
  into Manly P. Hall's writing. He he yes, you mentioned Freemasons a
• 1:04:01
  lot in uh in her book that there are many people that were members of
• 1:04:06
  that, right, So yeah, it's not really a surprise. Again free
• 1:04:15
  I I do address this in the longer rite up which I've got. Whenever
• 1:04:18
  you mention things like Freemasonry and Rosicrucianism and whatnot, a bunch of people seem
• 1:04:24
  to have this knee jerk reaction of everything you're about to say as a conspiracy
• 1:04:28
  theory, and it's like, well, but but Free Masonry exists, like
• 1:04:32
  they're a fraternal organization. They are a fraternal organization. It's basically a men's
• 1:04:36
  organization where a bunch of guys get together and for the most part socialize.
• 1:04:42
  Yeah, there's a there's a Free Mason building right right by my house here
• 1:04:46
  in Virginia. I drive past it every day. Yeah, I like in
• 1:04:50
  there. But yeah, yeah, it's not exactly difficult to get into lodges
• 1:04:58
  and join them. You literally just find people who are members and say,
• 1:05:00
  hey, can I can I come to the thing. I can normally help
• 1:05:04
  you befriend them a bit first, like a pathword or something. I'm not
• 1:05:10
  at liberty to discuss these things, but if you just find it that you
• 1:05:14
  hand to. But if you if you just find people who are members,
• 1:05:16
  you you can get invited in. They literally are for the most part just
• 1:05:19
  social clubs. But as soon as you mentioned them, people are just like
• 1:05:26
  conspiracy theory. It's it's again. It is also like when you talk about
• 1:05:30
  say Rosa Crucianism. Again, people are just like but conspiracy theories. What
• 1:05:36
  what the how is it a conspiracy theory to observe the fact that there were
• 1:05:43
  a bunch of pages which were written by the founder of it, and this
• 1:05:50
  ended up attracting a lot of attention amongst some rich people who found it very
• 1:05:56
  very interesting. And there are a bunch of people who started attempt to write
• 1:06:00
  their own versions of it, you know, their own sort of occult little
• 1:06:02
  things as a means of getting attention of people who were part of Rosicrucianism because
• 1:06:08
  they wanted to get into it, because it was sort of seen as this
• 1:06:12
  like elite social thing to be a member of it. It had a sort
• 1:06:16
  of degree of social cachet to it. Yeah, like, how is this
• 1:06:21
  conspiracy theories that the people like literally the people meet and talk about things.
• 1:06:29
  Yeah, it's it totally exists. I mean, it's not a conspiracy if
• 1:06:32
  it's real. But then I mean it could there could be conspiracies. Conspiracies
• 1:06:38
  are real, but the existence of Freemasonry is not like some kind of unprovable
• 1:06:43
  myth. So then why would it be worth bringing up in Rachel's book If
• 1:06:50
  it's so mundane. That'd be like saying, you know, Vanderbilt was also
• 1:06:56
  a member of the bowling team in this city, or or he went to
• 1:07:00
  this lodge and hung out with other men that were hunting deer or something like
• 1:07:06
  it. Is there something about it that makes it remarkable or is it just
• 1:07:11
  this kind of, you know, popular idea that if someone is a part
• 1:07:15
  of the Freemasons, then that means that that makes this more significant. Part
• 1:07:21
  of me thinks that it's just because they are secretive societies, and it's always
• 1:07:26
  interesting that the people are members of these things. Yeah, but a lot
• 1:07:30
  of them do actually have underlying religious and spiritual beliefs that they aim to promulgate
• 1:07:36
  through it, and that ties into some of what they do, because it
• 1:07:42
  ends up as one of these sort of driving principles and driving forces behind the
• 1:07:46
  actions of some of its members. It makes me wonder if because I mean,
• 1:07:50
  I was interested in joining the Freemasons when I first moved here and I
• 1:07:54
  saw there was a building, But the only reason why was because I have
• 1:07:58
  been talking about on this show how important I think it is that men,
• 1:08:03
  you know, have like a place for them to fraternize and you know,
• 1:08:08
  mentor each other and spend time with each other without the oversight of women without
• 1:08:13
  the oversight of feminism, and I think that that is an important thing.
• 1:08:16
  But then you know, I learn that it's very hard to get into it
• 1:08:21
  or whatever from some people. I don't know, I'd never really followed up.
• 1:08:26
  I even sent them an email, and I don't think I ever heard
• 1:08:29
  back. When I first came here because I wanted to see, you know,
• 1:08:32
  what is this. This is a space for men, Is it good
• 1:08:35
  or whatever? But then, like you know, when you hear about freemasonry,
• 1:08:41
  you hear about something that is clandestine and like you're not supposed to know
• 1:08:45
  about it, and therefore it makes it suspicious. And this makes me think,
• 1:08:48
  you know, in all in I would say, throughout you know,
• 1:08:53
  most of our history, men have had places where they can go be with
• 1:08:57
  other men to hang out or whatever, like whether that was you know,
• 1:09:01
  ancient Greece or like at a at a stag club or like a hunter's lodge
• 1:09:06
  or something, and they would just hang out with other men, smoke cigars,
• 1:09:11
  drink and talk about tell stories whatever, share wisdom. And I think
• 1:09:15
  that you know, those have historically they've been broken up. Like there's basically
• 1:09:20
  like almost no spaces today where men can exclusively spend time together, and mostly
• 1:09:28
  it's because people on the outside, whether it's women or they're simps, have
• 1:09:31
  come in and broke it up. And so when I hear about these links
• 1:09:38
  between the you know, a powerful individual like a Vanderbilt and the Freemasons,
• 1:09:44
  it makes me wonder, are you trying to convince me subtly that there shouldn't
• 1:09:47
  be, you know, these fraternities because men getting together in like a place
• 1:09:54
  is bad, because that's not really I'm not on board with that, you
• 1:09:58
  know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, it's just always interesting to consider
• 1:10:02
  why people mention these things. I say, I think it's that. I
• 1:10:05
  think it's that in some of it, it is just the secret societies are
• 1:10:10
  interesting because they're secret. If you don't you don't know what goes on in
• 1:10:13
  them inside, and so it is subject to a bit of speculation. But
• 1:10:17
  as I said, some of it also, some of them do have an
• 1:10:21
  animating principle behind them, whereby they want to push stuff out, Like the
• 1:10:26
  rose Crusions, they very specifically had no this is our diet, this is
• 1:10:30
  our idea, this is what we're doing. I actually elaborate further on that
• 1:10:34
  in the full write up, quoting from another book about it, which is
• 1:10:40
  in here as well. Double check the title, Yeah, let's do it.
• 1:10:46
  Yeah, that that book is actually Hagel and the Hermetic Tradition. I
• 1:10:49
  actually read a few pages from that in the full write up explaining the explaining
• 1:10:55
  what Roseccrucianism is and how and why you end up with that, the principle
• 1:11:01
  behind it, sort of what they aimed to aim to do and aim to
• 1:11:04
  achieve and how. That's quite an interesting thing and it's interesting that, obviously
• 1:11:10
  we've got into this talking about Sanger. Margaret Sanger, one of her lovers
• 1:11:15
  throughout her life was a sexologist by the name Havelock Ellis, who was a
• 1:11:19
  Rosicrucian. And one of the reasons that she and this is the Margaret Sanger
• 1:11:26
  who founded Planned Parenthood, by the way, who had quite a lot of
• 1:11:30
  money behind her, which I think was from the Rockefellers, but the main
• 1:11:35
  one of the main reasons that she started dabbling with rosa Crucianism along with this
• 1:11:41
  guy Havelock Ellis, was in an attempt to channel the spirit of her deceased
• 1:11:45
  daughter, who had died a few months earlier from something I don't remember what,
• 1:11:54
  but that that was sort of one of the things that sort of started
• 1:11:57
  getting her interested in this part of the occult. So once again you start
• 1:12:00
  you start seeing where this this spiritualism, that this like mediumship new age wou
• 1:12:08
  starts coming in. Once again, you've got another woman here who's you know,
• 1:12:12
  she she wants this, uh you know, all this pro abortion stuff
• 1:12:15
  as a means of well, as I've indicated before, I actually think a
• 1:12:20
  lot of this is about removing material connection from people so that they can spiritually
• 1:12:28
  ascend. They can they can transcend, you know, up their vibrational frequencies
• 1:12:33
  and move on to a higher spiritual plane to return to the oversaul. But
• 1:12:40
  that we we we've covered that enough before that that that that I actually think
• 1:12:45
  is why they're they're so big into the idea of abortion and removing people's uh
• 1:12:49
  absolute materials desire. Yeah, I was gonna mention, I have the this
• 1:12:57
  JAFF memo in front of me, and it's interesting because if so, okay,
• 1:13:02
  so they claim they want to reduce fertility, I'm gonna mention this.
• 1:13:08
  They want to reduce fertility. That's the goal of planned parenthood, and they
• 1:13:12
  will because they want to reduce the population. Now they'll say that it's because
• 1:13:17
  of the climate, and I know this is weird. It's like, what
• 1:13:20
  does climate have to do with you know, men and women. But it's
• 1:13:25
  about population reduction, which is working. Like all these things I'm telling you
• 1:13:30
  is happening. Like it's working, okay, birth control, pill, postpone,
• 1:13:35
  like people are postponing marriage. And see, these are the things the
• 1:13:40
  initiatives that these folks with. It's not just planned parenthood, but all of
• 1:13:45
  the people working with them. So they have this chart or this this sort
• 1:13:50
  of like set up. It says proposed measures to reduce fertility by universe and
• 1:13:55
  universality or selective selectivity of impact in the US, and they have social constraints
• 1:14:02
  restructure the family, so get people to postpone or avoid marriage entirely alter the
• 1:14:09
  image of an ideal family size. So basically like where you know, my
• 1:14:13
  grandmother, for example, had nine children, My mother had three children,
• 1:14:17
  and like my brothers maybe have like one or two. So you can,
• 1:14:20
  even just in my own personal life, I can see how drastically it's changed
• 1:14:28
  encourage increased homosexuality, which I think is strange because I thought people were just
• 1:14:32
  born this way, but apparently it can be encouraged, so they make this
• 1:14:38
  a thing. Okay, educate children in a public education system also include sex
• 1:14:45
  education. Four children, right. Put fertility control agents in the water supply.
• 1:14:53
  Now I know that them. I don't know how true that is,
• 1:14:56
  but I do think when women use birth control and they like throw it in
• 1:14:59
  the garbage or they toss things out, it gets into the water supply.
• 1:15:02
  That might be what it is. I don't know. Encourage women to join
• 1:15:05
  the workforce. This has already happened, right. Those are just the social
• 1:15:10
  constraints, and there's lots of other stuff. You reduce the or eliminate paid
• 1:15:15
  maternity leave, you eliminate children or family allowances. You you know, you
• 1:15:25
  eliminate welfare payments after the first two children so that people have fewer children,
• 1:15:30
  but they still can get welfare benefits and so on. So there's all of
• 1:15:34
  these and it makes you wonder, like, Okay, why would planted pairihood
• 1:15:38
  give a shit about any of that. And it's because there their ultimate goal
• 1:15:43
  is to reduce the number of people. And they'll say it, you know,
• 1:15:46
  if you corner them on it, they might say, oh, it's
• 1:15:48
  for the planet, but that doesn't it's not affecting them, you know what
• 1:15:55
  I mean, Like, these people are having kids, they're starting families,
• 1:15:59
  but they're like the the they're like the elite. They believe they can and
• 1:16:02
  you can't. Does that make sense. Yeah, well, it's it's interesting
• 1:16:06
  how the standards that these people ask for never apply to them. And even
• 1:16:13
  just on the climate thing. You know, there's the cop meeting which is
• 1:16:16
  happening, and people have already noticed by the amount of private jets that are
• 1:16:20
  going in. It's like, hang on, you, people in this one
• 1:16:25
  thing have already put out like more co two than like the poorest two thirds
• 1:16:30
  of humanity put together. M you don't believe a goddamn word that you're saying,
• 1:16:36
  because if you did, you do this by a zoom meeting. We
• 1:16:40
  have the technology. Yes, Oh Alison just joined us, so she might
• 1:16:48
  not say anything. I don't know, but I've just put her avatar in
• 1:16:51
  the screen. Anyways, Oh, okay, we can continue with the Sanger
• 1:16:58
  thing, because it's interesting that you actually mentioned some of the things regarding how
• 1:17:04
  they want children to be raised. Because throughout this book, Wilson does actually
• 1:17:10
  document a few of the utopian compounds that a bunch of these feminist organizations or
• 1:17:16
  feminist people attempt to create, and almost all of them rely on things like
• 1:17:21
  communal raising of children, which you probably recognize. Well, it's something that
• 1:17:27
  comes up in a lot of these Christian communes. It also comes up in
• 1:17:30
  Jewish communes as well, like the kibbutz, where they start saying like,
• 1:17:33
  oh, we're going to raise children communally. Me people aren't going to know
• 1:17:36
  who their kids are and where just everyone's going to pitch in. I don't
• 1:17:42
  offer touch on that. Well, it's well, the thing is that that
• 1:17:46
  is actually the reason why a lot of those things fell apart. Actually,
• 1:17:50
  the early forms of the kibbutz, that was one of the driving factors for
• 1:17:54
  why it fell apart, because basically the kids ended up really not having a
• 1:17:58
  very good time in there because of not knowing who their parents were. And
• 1:18:02
  Sanger through this lover of hers Ellis he was a strange chap to say the
• 1:18:09
  least. He married a woman who was a lesbian feminist, they would have
• 1:18:15
  an open relationship obviously as a result of this. Yeah, yeah, he
• 1:18:23
  definitely definitely does a very wonderful thing for your mental health. As we're seeing,
• 1:18:30
  Oh there we go, Hello, Allison. Hi, No, I
• 1:18:32
  just had to come in with the you know, like destiny, but you
• 1:18:38
  yeah, giving strange. Yeah I shouldn't because part of me feel sorry for
• 1:18:45
  him, but part of me is also like, you know what, you
• 1:18:47
  deserve, your suffering, and maybe you'll come out of this a better person.
• 1:18:50
  Yeah, don't don't when it says don't disturb the alligators, don't go
• 1:18:56
  into don't climb the fence, walk down the the sly side of the slope,
• 1:19:01
  get into the water and start poking the alligators with a stick. You
• 1:19:08
  know. Yeah, some things that some things are really obvious what you shouldn't
• 1:19:12
  do, but apparently people still need to learn, and Destiny did. Man,
• 1:19:19
  it's it's a yeah, everyone, I'm not actually aware of the destiny,
• 1:19:25
  So you're like, I'm vaguely aware of it, and I honestly,
• 1:19:28
  I don't really want to go into the details. It sounds depressing, honestly,
• 1:19:32
  and if if it's as bad as I envision it based on what little
• 1:19:36
  I know, I don't particularly want to pile more crap on him, because
• 1:19:41
  it's the short story is she asked for a lot of concessions. He offered
• 1:19:49
  all of the concessions and then she went off with a man who basically demanded
• 1:19:58
  and gave her ultimatum. And I guess, according to Destiny, so take
• 1:20:04
  it with a grain and salt As acted like a sort of abusive shall we
• 1:20:12
  say, yeah, like two abusers found each other. So the world is
• 1:20:17
  a better place anyway. All right, anyway, go ahead's let's talk about
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  yeah. Yeah, As I said, some people deserve their suffering and they
• 1:20:27
  will make it. If they make it through, they will make they will
• 1:20:30
  be better and stronger than coming out the other side. And I suppose I
• 1:20:33
  can just say to Destiny, hey, you know we are here. There
• 1:20:36
  is a hand extended. You know you can come and hang out with a
• 1:20:40
  bunch of people who will help you make sense of everything and not judge you
• 1:20:45
  harshly for it. Because you're only human and people make mistakes. Sometimes you
• 1:20:49
  have to learn, and sometimes that learning can be helped by other people.
• 1:20:53
  But we come back to what we said earlier, where it has to be
• 1:20:56
  your idea and I'm not going to press it because it might just push you
• 1:20:59
  for away, So get back back onto ellis. I suppose all I would
• 1:21:05
  say is that you would hope that having learned from this, certain individuals would
• 1:21:11
  understand why we say that men need to avoid making those kinds of concessions.
• 1:21:15
  And that's all I'll say, Yes, so have a locke. Ellis he
• 1:21:20
  was the lover of Margaret Sangle said he was a colorful character with his relationship
• 1:21:26
  to a lesbian woman. In their open relationship, he allegedly suffered from lifelong
• 1:21:30
  impotence and it wasn't until the age of sixty that he discovered the reliable cure
• 1:21:35
  for this unfortunate condition, and that was watching women urinate. What I don't
• 1:21:43
  ask. That was apparently just what he was into, because sure why the
• 1:21:47
  helmet. He would throughout his life he would advocate that homosexuality was a natural
• 1:21:53
  and harmless thing, probably because he was married to a lesbian. He also
• 1:21:59
  cod a book Sexual Inversion with John Simmons, who was a noted proponent of
• 1:22:05
  homosexuality and pederasty of all things. Because, of course, John Simmons,
• 1:22:12
  who was much alike Cavaloc Ellis, would be married to a woman, but
• 1:22:14
  he would have homosexual affairs with men. Ellis would throughout his life study what
• 1:22:19
  you would now call transgenderism, but at the time he referred to it as
• 1:22:24
  aonism as opposed to transgenderism. He published a book, The Psychology of Sex,
• 1:22:29
  in which he would talk about the this is where things get kind of
• 1:22:32
  like, of course he did. He spoke about the masturbation practices of children
• 1:22:39
  as young as three and would claim that children and this is a direct quote
• 1:22:43
  here. This is not from this book because I had to look this all
• 1:22:45
  up by myself to verify a quote from this book Regarding children, they are
• 1:22:49
  capable of a wide range of genital and sexual aptitude. As my note here
• 1:22:57
  simply says, this is your daily reminder that progressives have been pushing these sex
• 1:23:01
  with children thing for over a century. This is not some The left has
• 1:23:05
  only just now gone to far thing. But why we haven't gotten well do
• 1:23:15
  you know, tild I mean, I was gonna say, we haven't gotten
• 1:23:17
  there yet, but well, yes, it's under the rubric that they want
• 1:23:25
  to go through. When you free people of the material constraints, everything becomes
• 1:23:30
  very very spiritual. Everyone ends up on a completely level an equal playing field.
• 1:23:34
  So everyone is everyone becomes fair game because everyone is spiritually equal and is
• 1:23:43
  Yeah, basically it's you end up in this The that stuff ties to the
• 1:23:48
  concept of the age of Aquarius, which is the idea that Christ has already
• 1:23:53
  been born again, except in an etherial plane. As a result of that,
• 1:23:57
  the material world that we're in is actually basically secretly a lesser version of
• 1:24:00
  Heaven. And if we therefore begin embodying effectively godly traits, you can turn
• 1:24:12
  this world into heaven. And in doing yes, and in so doing you,
• 1:24:20
  And in order to do that, you basically have to remove all constraints
• 1:24:24
  between people so that we can all become one as part of the over soul
• 1:24:28
  in this heaven on earth. And this is why you get you get feminists
• 1:24:31
  and social justice minded people who say that necessarily under socialism, age of consent
• 1:24:36
  will lower or go away completely because you'll all be equal. It's just that
• 1:24:41
  they try to apply that to a materialist thing, whereas the actual origin of
• 1:24:45
  that idea is spiritual, and they don't want to acknowledge that. Okay,
• 1:24:49
  I just I'm pretty sure that that being more godly had more to do with
• 1:24:58
  controlling your sexual app sites and being a decent person not having sex with children.
• 1:25:03
  That's a suppression, Alison, I don't know what you're talking. Yes,
• 1:25:06
  yes, looking at it, it's actually, yeah, but according to
• 1:25:13
  their way, that is the social construct that anything like that is imposed.
• 1:25:16
  Any when you follow this new Asian nonsense back to its most fundamental origin point,
• 1:25:21
  anything that is put on you as a constraint is necessarily a social construct,
• 1:25:27
  which means it's imposed by basically just the materialism of man, and therefore
• 1:25:32
  is just in the way of you being the spiritual, godly being that you
• 1:25:36
  actually are. How will they continue to condemn Leonardo DiCaprio for having sex with
• 1:25:44
  nineteen year old women if they if they get rid of the age of consent
• 1:25:48
  and so we can have sex with children. I mean, I'm just it's
• 1:25:50
  there's this this rank hypocrisy about all of this. Yeah, they don't care,
• 1:25:57
  and we're still talking about Leonardo DiCaprio exists in Margaret Sanger's time, so
• 1:26:01
  I know, I'm just thinking about her, the people who've inherited this,
• 1:26:05
  you know, in you know, actually till dear this this makes me reminds
• 1:26:10
  me of something that I want to mention because you were talking about the inner
• 1:26:14
  in the video. You mentioned this concept that I was talking about like a
• 1:26:18
  while back, which is like how these kind of like culty gnostic things work.
• 1:26:25
  So you have like the the I think it was in Maoism they called
• 1:26:30
  it the outer school and the outer school. There's like three rings, the
• 1:26:33
  outer school, the Inner School, and the inner circle. Right. I
• 1:26:36
  don't know if I'm saying that right, but I think that's right. And
• 1:26:39
  the outer school is basically like most of the social justice types that we see
• 1:26:44
  around us. The people of the college students, the YouTubers, the people
• 1:26:48
  on Twitter, the media figures, even most of the instructors and college professors
• 1:26:57
  and people in education and activism. They they do it because they want to
• 1:27:02
  belong to something greater than themselves, and so they find that it is important
• 1:27:08
  and special and they feel it makes them feel good about themselves. This is
• 1:27:11
  what most people that are in this cult, the way that they think.
• 1:27:15
  And then you have the the inner school, who are the people who are
• 1:27:17
  who have read the material. They understand, you know, more of what
• 1:27:23
  the goals of some of the thinkers and the people who write about this stuff
• 1:27:28
  are after so they know that like Margaret Sanger started Planned Parenthood, they know
• 1:27:33
  that, you know that she and the people that work in this they they
• 1:27:39
  had, you know, specific goals about essentially freeing women from their the burden
• 1:27:45
  of children and whatnot. But but they may not know, you know,
• 1:27:49
  like the really really like culti religious roots of these things. But they just
• 1:27:55
  have a better understanding of the history and of the theories. And then you
• 1:27:59
  have the in her circle, which are like people who really know what's going
• 1:28:01
  on. You know. Do you know what I'm saying is that you And
• 1:28:06
  that's what we're talking about too, right, Like Margaret Sanger is probably I
• 1:28:12
  don't know, she's either inner school or inner circle actually, but yeah,
• 1:28:17
  the people who actually sort of talk about the spiritual side of that stuff,
• 1:28:21
  they they are a lot more inside. The people who you deal with,
• 1:28:26
  the rank and file, which is like the ninety percent of them or something
• 1:28:29
  like that. They're the people who if you say you're making a bunch of
• 1:28:32
  spiritualist claims here, they're just like, no, I'm not, go read
• 1:28:35
  a book, educate yourself. And then you slam down this pile of books
• 1:28:40
  and you're like, well, I've read all of these. Look at all
• 1:28:42
  my post it notes that are sticking out of this this this is your religion.
• 1:28:46
  I have literally read more about your belief system than you have. And
• 1:28:50
  they're just they'll still deny it anyway. Yeah, well, we can talk
• 1:28:55
  very specifically, I suppose about the New Age WU bit here because you sort
• 1:29:02
  of really get into the modern the cult side of things in chapter eight,
• 1:29:05
  and that's where she starts talking about occultism proper, and that's where you really
• 1:29:11
  hit some of the more hermetic and theosophical things. And I've got quite a
• 1:29:15
  lot of expansion on that regarding the New Age concepts, because you mus do
• 1:29:18
  it, you start really hitting the bizarre indigo children and star seeds nonsense,
• 1:29:25
  and all of this stuff does tie into feminism as much as they would like
• 1:29:29
  to deny it, because feminism is heavily linked to the New Age movement.
• 1:29:34
  So chapter eight here, my writer, I've got I think just four or
• 1:29:39
  five paragraphs. I guess my voice will survive only one way to find out.
• 1:29:43
  Let's go. Let's do it. Let's do it. Chapter eight begins
• 1:29:46
  with talking about English occultist Alistair Crowley, founder of Telema spiritualist practice that worships
• 1:29:51
  the Scarlet Woman, Babblon the Sacred Whore. Crowley was heavily inspired by the
• 1:29:57
  works of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, of which she was a
• 1:30:00
  member before moving on to found Talma consistent with Hermetic and Theosophical beliefs. This
• 1:30:05
  is our important tie in there. Talima drew heavily on ancient Egyptian religious icons,
• 1:30:12
  in this instance the belief of Babylon and how she must become incarnated as
• 1:30:15
  a means of overthrowing the patriarchal god a Sirih Stasher in the Age of Horace.
• 1:30:20
  This is why I mentioned in Theosophy all of the Egyptian tie ins that
• 1:30:26
  they have, because this is where it comes from. So Crowley believed that
• 1:30:29
  he would be the beast that the scarlet woman must ride in upon to enter
• 1:30:32
  the world, which predictably led him to the bizarre practices of sex magic that
• 1:30:38
  he would engage in. Right, So he basically got laid by lots of
• 1:30:41
  women because he was trying to find the chosen one. Yeah, that's a
• 1:30:45
  new level of is that I never did not see. That's don't take notes,
• 1:30:51
  guys, a good way to get aids. But go ahead. And
• 1:30:55
  he was the top man in his society and all of the girls wanted him,
• 1:30:58
  not anyone else. Funny how that works anyway, So Crowley had several
• 1:31:02
  followers there are two names that stick out as famous people you will know.
• 1:31:06
  That's l Ron Hubbard and Jack Parsons. Jack Parsons was a NASA scientist who
• 1:31:12
  would eventually die working on jet propulsion. However, during his life he would
• 1:31:15
  meet a woman named Marjorie Cameron, whom he considered to be the embodiment of
• 1:31:19
  the modern occult feminist woman. Parsons had planned on using her to conceive a
• 1:31:26
  child that he thought would become the Antichrist. However, Marjorie would have bought
• 1:31:30
  a pregnancy without telling Parsons. Although they were married in the same year they
• 1:31:33
  met, they would continue having affairs. Weird they foiled by their own plot,
• 1:31:41
  yes, hoisted by their own petad. Unfortunately, I guess planned parenthood
• 1:31:45
  did some good after all Antichrist. So after parsons untimely death, Marjorie Cameron
• 1:31:54
  would move to California and set up an occult society that would practice ritual sex
• 1:31:58
  magic as a means of incanting so called moon children and to contact the spirit
• 1:32:02
  of her late husband. Again, we're seeing all of these interesting parallels between
• 1:32:08
  why these people do these things. So the author unfortunately here missus key details
• 1:32:12
  about Cameron, which I will provide here. These rituals included self harm and
• 1:32:17
  the alleged presence of UFOs as a sign of the effectiveness of the rituals.
• 1:32:23
  She would also hold catastrophic views about the end of the world, so she
• 1:32:28
  was an imminentist, and she believed that the end of the world will be
• 1:32:30
  brought about by a race war, from which she believed she would be rescued
• 1:32:33
  by a flying saucer. The UFO link will become relevant shortly. Moon children
• 1:32:41
  are supposedly spiritually attuned children aligned with the moon, which is the female heavenly
• 1:32:45
  body compared to the male Sun. This is where we can talk about the
• 1:32:49
  importance of the solar and lunar traditions and cycles from antiquity that is covered in
• 1:32:54
  extensive details in the writings of Evola, whom I've spoken about before over the
• 1:32:58
  years, as well as mentioning the storytelling methods of the Olympian Anatanic cycles,
• 1:33:02
  which I mentioned before but not covered in extensive detail. This is something that
• 1:33:06
  may be done in the future, but this is not the time or place.
• 1:33:11
  The importance of the lunar tradition and lunar cycle is that it is a
• 1:33:14
  weaker reflection of the solar masculine cycle, the solar representing a pole of strength,
• 1:33:18
  stability, centrality, and a spiritual core dominated by masculine principles, the
• 1:33:24
  lunar representing female principles of meekness, chaos, and materialism. This is part
• 1:33:30
  of where the female spiritualism Moon connection hails from. You can read more about
• 1:33:34
  this in things like The Mystery of the Grail and Revolt against the Modern World,
• 1:33:39
  which is not the book that you should start with, but it's one
• 1:33:42
  that covers in fair detail to this. I would like to add in the
• 1:33:45
  New Age concept of star seeds and Indigo children, which the author does not
• 1:33:50
  mention, but this bears explanation because of the similarity in concept and the importance
• 1:33:56
  that they hold for l. Ron Hubbard and his UFO alien based faith of
• 1:34:00
  scientology. Indigo children are a New Age child that is more spiritually aware and
• 1:34:05
  in tune than normal people and manifest psychic abilities such as telepathy. The concept
• 1:34:10
  of indigo children was created by Nancy and Tap and formalized in her book Your
• 1:34:15
  Life Through Colour, which is a New Age ton mentioning auras and their colours
• 1:34:18
  and the significance of these colours, hence indigo children. It's very complicated,
• 1:34:25
  I'm sure you can see. So. Star seeds are a New Age belief
• 1:34:30
  that some people are actually aliens, either by birth or having an alien spirit
• 1:34:34
  attached to them during and out of body experience. Star Seeds are usually considered
• 1:34:39
  teachers who will claim to be passing on alien knowledge to people via telepathy,
• 1:34:44
  out of body experiences, and channel writing. You can see right there immediately
• 1:34:47
  the connections to spiritualism because it's the exact same thing, just updated for a
• 1:34:53
  new era. Rather than talking to the spirits of the dead or spirits on
• 1:34:57
  manifestations of some God or something like that. Now it's alien, but it's
• 1:35:00
  the exact same thing. So the concepts of indigo children star seeds are important
• 1:35:04
  to the New Age religion because it's a means of indoctrination. You don't find
• 1:35:09
  out you're one of them unless somebody already in the cult tells you that you
• 1:35:13
  are one. It is to lure in lure people into the New Age faith.
• 1:35:17
  You're probably realizing the connections to scientology here and the gnostic portions of hidden
• 1:35:23
  knowledge and understanding. The scientology angle is the concept of the alien Xenu and
• 1:35:28
  his destruction of a planet, resulting in Thetans flying to Earth and attaching themselves
• 1:35:32
  to people. Of course, you need to join scientology and give them all
• 1:35:35
  your money and possessions to clear these thetons so that you can become a fully
• 1:35:40
  spiritually realized person. So while we talk about this, remember our last book,
• 1:35:45
  Women's Reality and the Dualism mentioned the ongoing forever process and levels of capital
• 1:35:51
  T truth. There is a direct through line in all of these topics,
• 1:35:56
  stemming from the Gnostic tradition, radiating out via Hermetica and theosophy. This is
• 1:36:00
  why feminism is so heavily intertwined with the New Age movement, neopaganism, and
• 1:36:05
  witchcraft. The spiritually centered divine female channeling their nosis, their hidden knowledge to
• 1:36:13
  tell you the real her story of the world, to overthrow the patriarchal,
• 1:36:17
  so called objective world, to help people realize the capital t truth of the
• 1:36:23
  divine feminine, so we can engage in the process of becoming to free ourselves
• 1:36:29
  from the oppressive material world, to become enlightened, changing our vibrational frequencies,
• 1:36:34
  ushering in the New Age, and becoming one with God with source the over
• 1:36:39
  soul, etc. All enabled by allowing that female system free flowing exchange of
• 1:36:45
  energy from solar plexus to solar plexus, so that we can destroy oppressive white
• 1:36:49
  male so called objective social constructs and objective defined categories such as race and gender
• 1:36:58
  and yes, even age and linear time because remember that's what a chef was
• 1:37:02
  writing about time being a social construct. You and we destroy all of this
• 1:37:08
  and we transcend to become one, free of all distinction and difference as part
• 1:37:13
  of the one truth of itself. A reminder here, this is literally quoting
• 1:37:17
  university course level women studies literature. Yeah, and they're not there's no shame.
• 1:37:25
  They don't hide it. It's all out there. They really believe it.
• 1:37:30
  So it's almost like, you know, we could say this is this
• 1:37:32
  sounds all ridiculous, but if they believe it and they are acting on that
• 1:37:38
  belief, then it is kind of real in terms of the impacts. Right,
• 1:37:44
  So I mean, yeah, that's uh, Alice, you have any
• 1:37:51
  questions or anything. I know that you said that you were just gonna listen,
• 1:37:54
  but no, it's a lot. Okay, well if listening okay,
• 1:38:00
  all right, I mean I can I can tie all of that stuff to
• 1:38:04
  the UN if people would like by wading a bit about reading the bit about
• 1:38:09
  chapter six, this keeps this the rabbit hole goes pretty deep, I think
• 1:38:15
  the UN and uh, you know, some of this is some of this
• 1:38:19
  is to be fair covering stuff that we've already covered. So yes, it'll
• 1:38:24
  be easier to get into. I think if I do the chapter six reading,
• 1:38:30
  though, I someone else will have to talk for a while, okay,
• 1:38:34
  so I can say the yeah, well, we'll just plow through this
• 1:38:40
  bit because it it is interesting and it ties that together. Because we've gone
• 1:38:45
  heavy into the New Age stuff. I do think we need to tie that
• 1:38:46
  a little bit more to the feminist stuff, because I think there's still maybe
• 1:38:51
  a bit of a gap for some people here. So you miss you mentioned.
• 1:38:55
  I just want to say you mentioned Alistair Crowley. I believe that there
• 1:39:00
  some what was his name, McVey, Timothy mcveay. I think he's a
• 1:39:03
  Satanist too right or or something. I think he was also I don't know
• 1:39:06
  if he's in Rachel's book, but but I saw something about him being connected
• 1:39:12
  to the feminist movement as well. And yeah, Timothy McVeigh, and and
• 1:39:18
  I guess what I'm what I'm wondering about is because there is a lot of
• 1:39:24
  this kind of Luciferian stuff like mixed in with scientology and all these other crazy
• 1:39:30
  cults. But it's all like you know, hinged on this concept of women's
• 1:39:34
  lib which is how they kind of like let loose all these things even though
• 1:39:38
  they really legitimately believe this does. Is it then really all that crazy to
• 1:39:45
  say that abortion is child sacrifice? Like I mean, they they engage in
• 1:39:50
  child sacrifice. They were doing that, but like now they can do it
• 1:39:55
  through a you know, through through planned parenthood. Is that Is that not
• 1:40:00
  what's happening? Like either they're they're sacrificing children via abortion, And I'm not
• 1:40:06
  saying that that's right or wrong. I'm just saying that this is probably what
• 1:40:09
  they think or they are grooming children for you know, sexual usage or transgenderism
• 1:40:17
  or something like that, because it does seem okay if you want, if
• 1:40:23
  you wanted to go through things like Kabbala, which we've mentioned because it is
• 1:40:28
  also tied to this into theosophy Kabbala as part of it, well there are
• 1:40:34
  I suppose you could say this is perhaps more a Christian interpretation of some of
• 1:40:39
  the Jewish occult that you find in Akala, but you can make connections between
• 1:40:44
  things like Moloch and Satan, and Moloch is one of the one of the
• 1:40:47
  gods that did have child sacrifice to it in that in that tradition, So
• 1:40:55
  if you wanted to see it that way, you could. Obviously it replies
• 1:40:59
  you to believe in these gods and that these things are effective. But yeah,
• 1:41:03
  but I guess I'm saying it's not that I believe it, it's that
• 1:41:08
  if they believe it, they're acting on it either way. So I'm wondering,
• 1:41:12
  like I'm basically saying that if they if they may you know, Moloch
• 1:41:16
  may be real and may not be real, but that doesn't really matter.
• 1:41:18
  The point is is that that they there there is this going on, like
• 1:41:24
  you know theres I mean, I think it is. I don't know,
• 1:41:28
  Like does that make sense? Yeah, Hey, that's what I was thinking
• 1:41:30
  about. Not Timothy McVeigh antony, I'm sorry, go ahead, Yeah,
• 1:41:35
  it is one of those things that if if people believe, well, it's
• 1:41:44
  also again we think we come back once again to inner and out of circle
• 1:41:46
  stuff. Like if you dig far enough into this you can you could totally
• 1:41:51
  do the Cabbalist Lucifer is Moloch and Moloch's child sacrifice, and you people are
• 1:42:00
  engaging in the New age thing, and because there is a tie there and
• 1:42:04
  as a result of this that by engaging in this that you you could do
• 1:42:10
  this. But I think that in order to find people who actually genuinely believe
• 1:42:17
  that they are pushing abortion as a means of feeding baby souls, some I
• 1:42:24
  think there are very few people exactly who genuinely believe that, Like you can
• 1:42:29
  find some, but I think for the most part you are dealing with like
• 1:42:32
  the ninety nine point nine percent how to circle people who don't know that any
• 1:42:36
  of this has informed the tradition of it, And so we have to again
• 1:42:42
  consider it's so many like centuries removed from it. Again, like as we
• 1:42:47
  mentioned at the beginning, like if you follow the scientific method back far enough,
• 1:42:51
  you end up at Christianity. But no one would say that being a
• 1:42:55
  scientist makes you a Christian. And I think that this sort of follows a
• 1:42:59
  similar thing, like abortion is so far removed from some of this occult stuff.
• 1:43:02
  To say that abortion is an occult act by itself, right, it
• 1:43:06
  becomes kind of meaningless for most people because it's so far removed, but there
• 1:43:12
  is that that single thread of it that ties it together. But though like
• 1:43:16
  most people, that thread is irrelevant. Yeah, I think so too.
• 1:43:23
  I'm just but I guess like if I was in a crazy cult and I
• 1:43:27
  was like you know, Margaret Sanger, and I wanted to sacrifice children to
• 1:43:31
  Bapha met or whoever it is, I would start an organization, call it
• 1:43:36
  something else, and then after I'm dead and gone, everybody just keeps on
• 1:43:41
  carrying on with the with the rituals that I started. I don't know,
• 1:43:44
  it's it's just something to think about. But that we're getting we're going to
• 1:43:47
  the weeds. We should get into the chapter. Oh, I think this
• 1:43:51
  is exactly what we're here to discuss with the occult side of feminism. We're
• 1:43:57
  discussing feminism in the occult. Let's discuss fanism and the occult. Let's go
• 1:44:00
  nuts. Why not? Yeah, well, go ahead, go ahead.
• 1:44:06
  Yeah. So chapter six, So we're going back in time a little bit
• 1:44:12
  in the book. But this I think will bridge some of the gaps of
• 1:44:14
  what we spoke about earlier to what we just spoke about with new agism.
• 1:44:16
  Tie the two together. Why the hell not? This is why I wrote
• 1:44:19
  this thing in this order. But screw order, let's go. There is
• 1:44:24
  no underlying order to my universe. I reject your reality and substitute my own.
• 1:44:29
  Chapter six introduces us to theosophy. This is something we've mentioned before and
• 1:44:32
  we'll cover incoming writeups here. However, I would like to address something from
• 1:44:36
  Rachel Wilson's perspective, and that seems to be something others, usually in the
• 1:44:41
  area of traditional conservative politics, observe as well. In this chapter, she
• 1:44:45
  points out that theosophy offered a rejection of the patriarchy of Christianity. This in
• 1:44:49
  itself plays into the feminist ideal of society at some point having been a patriarchy.
• 1:44:55
  This objection may come as to how the term patriarchy is used, but
• 1:44:59
  society never patriarchal. For religious and right wing types to use this term to
• 1:45:02
  refer to societal order inherently submits to feminist dogma. Even in times where official
• 1:45:09
  authority rested with men, there was still ample female power in society, and
• 1:45:13
  men who ruled would often only do so with the blessing of enough of that
• 1:45:15
  society's women. I actually still have a note here a legacy note in this
• 1:45:19
  write up that says, HBr only discuss just if anyone wanted to jump in
• 1:45:27
  there for anything. I think I mean Alison a muted so she wants to
• 1:45:30
  get in there. No, yeah, I just wanted to point something out.
• 1:45:34
  A couple of days ago I learned that well, the electoral process in
• 1:45:40
  England. Well, first of all, it was a lot more interesting in
• 1:45:45
  the past than it is now I suppose. But when they had open ballots,
• 1:45:51
  the writings I know it probably has a UK specific word like burken Wick
• 1:46:00
  in something or other. But the potential candidates for a political position would take
• 1:46:08
  part in what they would call I think the hustings, and so they would
• 1:46:13
  have a gathering in like a town center, and I guess they would talk
• 1:46:15
  about the policies and what they intended to do, and people would vote.
• 1:46:19
  Are the men who were franchised at the time would vote publicly, so everything
• 1:46:24
  was done publicly. But what was interesting is that the men who didn't have
• 1:46:28
  a vote, and also the women would take part in the process and they
• 1:46:31
  would engage in something called looking on, which would be jeering or cheering for
• 1:46:36
  particular candidates. Who knows, maybe even questioning them. So women were involved
• 1:46:45
  in the political process in the past. Do we know if those women felt
• 1:46:50
  like they were sufficiently heard during these hustings that they didn't agitate for a vote,
• 1:46:57
  or if they felt disenfranted. We don't know, because they didn't really
• 1:47:02
  write much down about it or their own opinions on it. However, they
• 1:47:06
  were involved in the process and it was a public thing, so they could
• 1:47:11
  jeer. If a man voted for something women didn't want, they could jeer
• 1:47:15
  him and they would know publicly who he was. Right, So they exerted
• 1:47:19
  a certain amount, obviously of social pressure on the electoral process when the vote
• 1:47:26
  was public and it was a part of a process that the whole community came
• 1:47:30
  out for and was involved in, and we don't even we don't even recognize
• 1:47:34
  that anymore as part of the whole thing. Like that, that women's social
• 1:47:40
  influence had a big effect on the electoral process. Now, when the vote
• 1:47:44
  became private, that changed, But almost immediately after that we started to see
• 1:47:50
  the agitation for women to have their own vote. And it's like, if
• 1:47:56
  we look at this more as like a almost like a continuous thing that women
• 1:48:00
  have always had a considerable influence on politics and the social sphere. And I
• 1:48:06
  think it's obvious that they did since women's position and all through most societies throughout
• 1:48:12
  human history, they had that power. They were able to do things.
• 1:48:16
  I mean, look at Helen and Troy or the Viking women who you know,
• 1:48:21
  beat on their breasts to get their men to go re revenge, revenge
• 1:48:26
  against people who had wronged them. And that's part of human history, right,
• 1:48:30
  And they've had this power and maybe where we see the disenfranchisement is where
• 1:48:36
  we're not actually looking close enough, or we're ignoring things that don't seem relevant
• 1:48:42
  to us. And because they have always had this power, when situations like
• 1:48:46
  the vote becoming private and hidden, taking away that social power they had to
• 1:48:55
  put on pressure on people and how they voted, then they start, you
• 1:48:59
  know, you start to see the agitation for women to have the vote themselves.
• 1:49:02
  So it's almost like there's always this expectation that women have a significant say
• 1:49:06
  in the political and social processes of their cultures, and when one avenue closes
• 1:49:12
  it down for whatever reason, then that something else opens up to give them
• 1:49:17
  that say. And so yeah, like this whole constructive as society as a
• 1:49:23
  patriarchy in the past is wrong. I mean, I just recently on Twitter
• 1:49:27
  saw a conservative since we're calling out conservatives now, seems to be fine with
• 1:49:32
  the whole concept of toxic masculinity because you know, we you know, we
• 1:49:38
  want to get men are aggressive and in the conservative parlance, men are aggressive
• 1:49:43
  and less moral than women, So we want to be able to call out
• 1:49:45
  those those men who are bad. It's like, that's well, first of
• 1:49:49
  all, that's a gross misunderstanding of what's really meant by toxic masculinity. And
• 1:49:55
  also it's like, are you honestly saying that men are more in moral than
• 1:50:00
  women? Then don't you see how you are undermining your own conservative beliefs because
• 1:50:05
  how can men be the moral head of the family if they're less moral than
• 1:50:11
  women? And so it's like this this thing that conservatives do that they buy
• 1:50:16
  into feminist frameworks or there are feminist frameworks that really just come right out of
• 1:50:21
  conservative conceits about men and women, and it just undermines their entire social institution.
• 1:50:28
  There's they are really almost like destiny. They're just walking into their own
• 1:50:34
  Trapsvatives are feminists, I think they're just blind, but even more even more.
• 1:50:44
  It's like can feminists took off on certain conservative conceits in the past,
• 1:50:48
  like the angel in the house and women are more excuse me, more moral
• 1:50:53
  than men, or women's wrongs or somehow less the things that women do is
• 1:50:59
  somehow less harmful than what men do, right, And they feminism sort of
• 1:51:04
  built on that and created this whole other corpus of women's ways of knowing and
• 1:51:10
  mysterious spiritual powers and other stuff like that, you know, women's nosis.
• 1:51:16
  All right, that's what I want to say. I don't know if that
• 1:51:18
  was helpful at all, but yeah, I see how conservatives end up just
• 1:51:24
  buying into this stuff, how they undermine their own arguments, especially with the
• 1:51:29
  patriarchy thing, and you know how it's really destructive. And I'll get off
• 1:51:36
  the podium here and just let you guys take it from there. Aggression is
• 1:51:45
  good and should not be condemned. All right, Well, I would argue
• 1:51:51
  that aggression isn't something that's uniquely male. It's not, and it's also a
• 1:51:57
  good thing because that is the authority from which everything else derives. Courage is
• 1:52:05
  the yes. But it is true because courage is the most important of the
• 1:52:12
  things that you can possess, and courage also requires violence to be able to
• 1:52:15
  uphold it, and if you lack either of those things, then you can't
• 1:52:18
  achieve anything and you will live your life as a slave anyway. So,
• 1:52:24
  continuing with the book, we learn of Mabel Collins. She was an adept
• 1:52:28
  of Blavatski, who co authored with her the journal titled Lucifer. Why they
• 1:52:33
  chose this name? Who knows, I'm sure it's just a coincidence, and
• 1:52:40
  this contained many articles on the esoteric Kabbala, astrology and feminism. After falling
• 1:52:46
  out between the two, Collins would suggest Blavatski had begged her to state that
• 1:52:50
  her writings were divinely written by Blavatski's various spirit mentors. In return, Blavatski
• 1:52:57
  accused Colins of having numerous affairs with members of her order and practicing sexual Tatrick
• 1:53:01
  Black magics. My note here is it's fascinating that such modern, progressive,
• 1:53:08
  free love women would resort to calling each other slot how things never change.
• 1:53:13
  As a result of this dispute, Collins withdrew from public life due to a
• 1:53:16
  mental breakdown. She and her forty six books are lauded to buy feminists to
• 1:53:20
  this day. We are also now introduced to Florence Far New Age woman extraordinaire,
• 1:53:29
  a West End actress in London who had numerous affairs. Because of course
• 1:53:32
  she did, including with George Bernard Shaw and W. B. Eats Yeach,
• 1:53:39
  should be noted as a member of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn,
• 1:53:42
  which she initiated Far into in eighteen ninety. Far climbed high in the
• 1:53:46
  ranks of the Golden Dawn because of her alleged ability to summon the Egyptian god
• 1:53:50
  Tapthartarrath. Far would lead the would leave the Golden Dawn in nineteen oh two
• 1:53:56
  and write numerous articles on women's liberation and ancient Egyptian really in the journal The
• 1:54:00
  New Age. Just another coincidence, I'm sure. In nineteen oh seven she
• 1:54:06
  would write about how prostitution should not only be legal, but be seen as
• 1:54:11
  sacred. Most interestingly, the author of this book notes her stance as being
• 1:54:15
  anti Christian, but doesn't comment on Far's position, including the possible interpretation that
• 1:54:19
  Christianity is anti white and this is based on some of Far's writing regarding the
• 1:54:26
  Semites and the debt that they have incurred by taking over White nations with their
• 1:54:30
  religion, which is not exactly an uncommon position at the time, but these
• 1:54:35
  days I think we recognize it for what it is, so the next author.
• 1:54:40
  The author then next mentions Annie Besson, whom we mentioned before. She
• 1:54:44
  was one of Helene Bolovatski's protegees. Bisson had a poor relationship with her husband,
• 1:54:48
  whoever would have guessed he was an Anglican vicar and she was a Catholic,
• 1:54:54
  which, of course sounds likely set up for a wonderful and amusing sitcom.
• 1:54:59
  This thing theological difference resulted in problems for their marriage. Bisson would take
• 1:55:02
  to writing books and articles, which earned her a modest sum. She would
• 1:55:06
  come to be unhappy with her husband having control of the family finances, with
• 1:55:12
  her belief being that her money should be hers and his should belong to the
• 1:55:15
  family read hers by proxy. This is interesting in light of what was written
• 1:55:21
  by Anne Wilson Schaff in Women's Reality, claiming women just know what is theirs
• 1:55:26
  and relationships and never overreach for money or property, especially in the event of
• 1:55:31
  divorce. Bisson did, of course divorce her husband, what a surprise,
• 1:55:36
  and would work writing for the National Secular Society in England, covering topics such
• 1:55:42
  as birth control, secularism, socialism, and feminism. Again, all of
• 1:55:46
  these same topics just keep coming up altogether. Really weird how that happens.
• 1:55:50
  Shortly after this would be her meeting with Helena Blovatski and eventual conversion to Theosophy,
• 1:55:58
  after which she would serve as co editor for magazine Lucifer. After numerous
• 1:56:01
  trips to India, which she believed to be her true home, she would
• 1:56:04
  also join the International Order of Freemasonry for Men and Women Laudois Humane, seeing
• 1:56:11
  it as a natural extension of her occult beliefs. Bassant also had a friend
• 1:56:16
  C. W. Ledbetter, who was removed from the Theosophy Society after teaching
• 1:56:21
  its pubertal male members about masturbation and committing sex acts with them daily reminder this
• 1:56:29
  is not new. Bissant remained friends with Ledbetter despite this, which is important
• 1:56:33
  because in later years Ledbetter would find Jidu Krishna Mutri, a twelve year old
• 1:56:40
  boy in India that he believed would be a world teacher and a vehicle for
• 1:56:43
  the spirit of Lord Matreya that would help evolve humanity into a higher spiritual being.
• 1:56:49
  Same themes coming up again. Bassant adopted the boy and, together with
• 1:56:54
  Ledbetter, began grooming him for his spiritual role. The term grooming I of
• 1:57:00
  used here deliberately for reference more to specifically reference more than one context to give
• 1:57:05
  you an idea about what exactly I'm getting at here. Krishna Mutrie later on
• 1:57:10
  in his life, when interviewed about this after he became disillusioned with theosophy,
• 1:57:15
  would only ever refer to led Better by the word evil and refuse to talk
• 1:57:19
  about him any further. However, during the time Krishna Mutrie was being groomed
• 1:57:24
  for his future, Bisantan led Better would also go on to found another publishing
• 1:57:27
  company to start publishing Trust for what a surprise. You know, these people
• 1:57:31
  again just have all of this money, all of this funding to put out
• 1:57:34
  all of these publishing companies. Fascinating, isn't it so? On page seventy
• 1:57:39
  seven were introduced to Alice Bailey, a woman frequently referred to as the mother
• 1:57:43
  of the New Age movement. Like many others, Bailey has a lengthy history,
• 1:57:46
  including divorce and discovery of theosophy. She and her second husband. Interesting
• 1:57:53
  how it's the second again? A Freemason and National Secretary of the Theosophy Society
• 1:57:58
  by the name of Foster Bailey. He would go on to founder the Lucifer
• 1:58:01
  Publishing Company that would go on to be renamed the Lusis Publishing Company, specifically
• 1:58:08
  to avoid confusion with Blovatski's journal. Lucifer Bailey was a prolific writer, creating
• 1:58:14
  twenty four books that she claims were written with spiritually channeled guidance. These books
• 1:58:18
  are not feminist in the strictest sense, but are more focused on the occult
• 1:58:23
  and New Age spiritualism. Several of her books mention the need for a one
• 1:58:27
  world government and one world religion. It was this belief of hers, as
• 1:58:31
  exemplified in her book Esoteric Astrology. This is my note here, not from
• 1:58:35
  occult feminism, because I've expanded on this in which Bailey wrote. So this
• 1:58:40
  is Bailey writing in her book, arguing, as one ever must for the
• 1:58:45
  universal to the particular, it is essential that humanity relates its own mechanism to
• 1:58:48
  the greater mechanism through which the planetary life capital l life functions and views his
• 1:58:55
  soul as an infinitesimal part of the world soul. It is necessary for him
• 1:58:59
  therefore, or to relate his soul to his personality, viewing both as aspects
• 1:59:03
  and integral parts of the human family. This will be increasingly the case.
• 1:59:10
  This process is beginning to demonstrate in the steadily expanding group, national, and
• 1:59:14
  racial consciousness which humanity is today demonstrating a consciousness which shows a spiritual inclusiveness,
• 1:59:20
  or as an abnormal and wicked attempt from the standpoint of the soul to fuse
• 1:59:25
  and blend all nations into a world order based on material issues and dominated by
• 1:59:30
  a material vision. It isn't that all just fascinating given everything that we've spoken
• 1:59:38
  about here. Yeah, yeah, just just view your soul as part of
• 1:59:42
  as an inverdessimally small part of a greater world soul, almost like an over
• 1:59:46
  soul, you know, a gaia sort of thing, because we're all part
• 1:59:51
  of one thing. Remember just you know, reality is just a social construct,
• 1:59:57
  Joe. So notice the use of the term world's sol and remember back
• 2:00:00
  to conversations concerning Hegel and the concept of Veldgeist. You can see the through
• 2:00:04
  line from Hegel's sublation of the dialectic and how the spirit is the animating principle
• 2:00:09
  of the transformation. The becoming of the dialectic. You should also notice the
• 2:00:14
  concept of racial consciousness and how this ties into modern intersectionalist and feminist conversations and
• 2:00:18
  framing around the topic of critical race theory and the need for people to raise
• 2:00:23
  racial consciousness, which once again ties back to Hegel and the Volksgeist, which
• 2:00:28
  from a Hegel dictionary by Inward, Hegel held represented national peculiarity and the primitive
• 2:00:34
  or primordial other people that a people has a distinctive character or spirit in part
• 2:00:40
  inherent to them, but also in part due to historical circumstance and natural environment.
• 2:00:45
  Covering some previous conversation and presentation, this is why critical race theorists and
• 2:00:49
  other feminists, intersectionalist gender scholars, etc. Will have capital B, black
• 2:00:55
  and capital T trans identities. They believe in an inherent similarity to these people
• 2:01:00
  by virtue of being and also by shared environments and historical circumstance. This may
• 2:01:06
  go on to explain how you get some people making silly observations such as being
• 2:01:11
  racist towards Muslims. Muslim is, of course a name given to the followers
• 2:01:15
  of Islam, not a race or an observable genetic admixture of ill frequencies.
• 2:01:20
  However, under the framework of the Hegelian Volksgeist, a race can be in
• 2:01:25
  effect created by enough shared historical circumstance and environment leading to a shared spirit.
• 2:01:31
  Or the racist towards Muslims is just an assertion because most Muslims are brown and
• 2:01:35
  they think you just hate brown people and use Islam as a proxy, once
• 2:01:39
  again in a circle versus out a circle understanding. However, it was this
• 2:01:44
  belief of Bailey's that would influence her later decision to become involved with the United
• 2:01:48
  Nations and her founding of the United Nations Non governmental organization UN. Goodwill and
• 2:01:56
  may have been influential in the Spiritual Caucus at the United Namesations, which is
• 2:02:00
  a real thing, even though it may sound like it is not. It
• 2:02:03
  had its annual meetings in October nineteenth and November sixteenth of this year. You
• 2:02:09
  can go and look close up if you'd like to. You can also read
• 2:02:11
  about the UN Spiritual Caucus at Spiritual CAUCUSUN dot org. This website contains links
• 2:02:17
  to everything you would expect, the Global Eco Village Project, GEIA, Education,
• 2:02:23
  Operation Peace Through Unity, and Cosmos Associates. It's also the standard New
• 2:02:29
  Age hippie dippy sort of organizations, the kind of things that continue to exist
• 2:02:32
  despite the fact that they're being run by perpetually broke hippies. This is because
• 2:02:38
  they're being funded by the UN. Unfortunately, this belief of hers and influence
• 2:02:43
  over these organizations has unfortunately given rise to actual conspiracy theories about the New World
• 2:02:48
  Order, which do posit things which are untrue, such as the use of
• 2:02:54
  NASA technology to influence people and usher in the New Age. However, there
• 2:02:58
  is obvious truth to the idea that the United Nations does push for greater globalization
• 2:03:02
  efforts, freer exchanges of ideas, movements of people, trade, and the
• 2:03:06
  UN is influential in informing government policy and economic projects around the world via its
• 2:03:12
  various NGOs. These are literally described on their various websites and pamphlets. It
• 2:03:17
  is not a conspiracy theory to suggests that organizations do the things they are telling
• 2:03:23
  you they are doing. Yep, and that's chapter six for you. My
• 2:03:30
  review of it. Well, yeah, I mean, that's that makes a
• 2:03:35
  lot of sense. It's like we see the same it's there, it's the
• 2:03:40
  same patterns. I'm glad that you are linking this to the sort of like
• 2:03:45
  all the other intersections of intersectionality. It shows how it's essentially the same talking
• 2:03:51
  points. But you mentioned, Okay, you and Goodwill is you as I
• 2:03:57
  mean, would it be fair to assume that you and women is a part
• 2:04:00
  of this too? Well, UN women exist, so it's it's part of
• 2:04:05
  the United Nations, so it'll the umbrella. So yes, yeah, yeah,
• 2:04:10
  yeah, yeah, Okay, You've also got to remember that UN Goodwill
• 2:04:15
  has a bunch of it's that thing that they've got like a bunch of ambassadors
• 2:04:20
  and people who travel out and about the place and ingratiate themselves with local societies
• 2:04:27
  and attempt to bring them around to their way of thinking. Not that I've
• 2:04:30
  just defined Rosa Crucians there. I'm totally talking about something completely different that has
• 2:04:34
  no sort of link to them at all in any way whatsoever. Yeah,
• 2:04:42
  yeah, definitely, definitely nothing there. But a lot of the UN ambassadors
• 2:04:46
  and the advocates that you find at Goodwill, a lot of them are the
• 2:04:49
  fairly typical rank and file feminist of the upper crust of society that you would
• 2:04:55
  expect. I think, I think what's her name was one of them,
• 2:04:59
  The Harry Potter actress woman you're talking about. Why am I not remembering her
• 2:05:06
  name? She played Hermione right, Yes, Yeah, I think I think
• 2:05:13
  she was a good will ambassador. I think, yeah, you know what,
• 2:05:15
  I think you might be right. I think you might either that or
• 2:05:19
  she just spoke. I know she's spoken at the UN a couple of times.
• 2:05:23
  I'm not I'm not one hundred percent on whether she is actually an ambassador
• 2:05:27
  for good will or or not, but I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah,
• 2:05:30
  it was a heat for she. She was the he for she person,
• 2:05:32
  yes, which I think was also something was that tied to the u N.
• 2:05:38
  I think it was No, it was it was he for she was
• 2:05:42
  a u N thing. Yeah, well there you go. In fact,
• 2:05:46
  you know, like uh Emma Watson being an actress, like Hollywood in general,
• 2:05:51
  essentially, lionizes the United Nations as a very like credible not just like
• 2:06:00
  an organization, but like an authority. They treat it like it's more it
• 2:06:03
  should be revered more than our governments are, even though the UN doesn't do
• 2:06:09
  anything except basically talk and try to like move the needle politically. They lobby,
• 2:06:15
  they do that kind of thing their donors, but they don't have political
• 2:06:17
  power. They're not supposed to. It just sounds really legit, you know,
• 2:06:24
  Yeah, but okay, it is. It is really weird the you
• 2:06:30
  know, people say like, oh, the UN doesn't have any power or
• 2:06:31
  anything like, okay, well what do they do? Then? What do
• 2:06:34
  all of these world leaders who get together in one place do? If absolutely
• 2:06:41
  nothing at all, because it doesn't matter. I mean, it's a good
• 2:06:45
  question, but I think they definitely they definitely, Uh, essentially, it's
• 2:06:50
  it's all. It's they just they exercise top down control. When they're able,
• 2:06:56
  they basically go and they lobby people who actually get elected, and they
• 2:07:00
  get those people to do things that nobody voted for. And that's how the
• 2:07:03
  UN, I think operates. I don't know how much all they have,
• 2:07:08
  but I think I know that it's undo. They you know, they have
• 2:07:12
  a tremendous amount of legitimacy in government as well as on you know, in
• 2:07:17
  our media space, on the Internet, et cetera. If the UN complains
• 2:07:21
  about something on Twitter, people just assume they must have something legitimate, you
• 2:07:27
  know, some legitimate grievance. It's very similar to like the ad L and
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  the SPLC. In fact, yeah, they also fund a whole bunch of
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  NGOs that you know, do things that you know, governments just really seem
• 2:07:42
  to kind of like, you know, yeah, well, it's weird how
• 2:07:45
  that happens. You know, they're definitely not you know, they are non
• 2:07:48
  governmental organizations, so it's definitely not the government. It just so happens that
• 2:07:54
  they get funded by the government. Either that or they're involved in trading and
• 2:08:00
  have members of their governments on their boards, and they frequently make a lot
• 2:08:03
  of money via, you know, doing things like stock investments or whatnot,
• 2:08:07
  which of course politicians know nothing about and definitely have no sort of knowledge regarding
• 2:08:13
  laws and legislation that might allow you to make excellently time traits that never happens,
• 2:08:20
  does it, miss Pelosi, yep, etcetera. And uh, you
• 2:08:28
  know, it's funny you should mention that the the NGOs because we have been
• 2:08:37
  targeted by NGOs. I saw that and it was hilarious. Can we put
• 2:08:43
  up the big banner that just says til Deer was right again? You know
• 2:08:48
  when I mentioned the boy, I wonder why they got rid of all of
• 2:08:52
  the really reasonable people, you know, why did they get rid of like
• 2:08:56
  the war the Warren Farrell's, the Tom Golden's, the Poorly the Genosphere,
• 2:09:01
  Mangazi. Why did they get rid of and suppress all of those people yet
• 2:09:05
  rock it up all of the bottom of the barrel Dispalpied Bitch podcasts that are
• 2:09:11
  literally the worst representations of the red pill stuff. Almost like they wanted to
• 2:09:16
  make all of these ideas look as bad as possible so that they could point
• 2:09:20
  to them and use those to smear all of the reasonable people. Oh look,
• 2:09:24
  look at this NGO document that did exactly that. Wow, what a
• 2:09:31
  coincidence. I never saw this coming because you know, the organizations like YouTube
• 2:09:39
  and Google, they're definitely not playing a long con with their algorithms or anything.
• 2:09:45
  Doesn't happen conspiracy theories go back to sleep. This is this is something
• 2:09:52
  relevant to what we were talking about yesterday, isn't it. It is what
• 2:09:58
  we were talking about yesterday. We're just bringing it up. Been passing because
• 2:10:01
  he was talking about the United Nations, and so we're talking about essentially like
• 2:10:05
  no matter what thread you follow, it leads back around to stuff we're dealing
• 2:10:11
  with right now. So of course the United Nations, if you look into
• 2:10:16
  the background, it's there's a reason why you know, these NGOs are coming
• 2:10:20
  after people like us because I think that you know, like I said yesterday,
• 2:10:26
  I think there's no larger threat to all of this stuff than a self
• 2:10:31
  actualized man, and so they can't allow that that's the most dangerous thing to
• 2:10:39
  them, to their power, is what I'm saying. And also women who
• 2:10:43
  talk about this stuff apparently yes, and also women who talk about them because
• 2:10:50
  people will listen to women. Yeah. No, It's just it has been
• 2:10:56
  interesting to see all of the threads and the fact that it isn't really a
• 2:11:00
  conspiracy theory. We know, how the evidence that this is happening. People
• 2:11:05
  seem to have forgotten that the word conspiracy can exist in isolation and it means
• 2:11:11
  a group of people arranging to do something ideally without other people noticing, and
• 2:11:16
  it does happen. Yep. I mean, even the phrase conspiracy theory isn't
• 2:11:20
  a lie. If there if you have a theory that there is a conspiracy
• 2:11:24
  going on, they aren't doing a hell of a lot to hide it,
• 2:11:30
  really. I mean, I guess it would have remained hidden if if Musk
• 2:11:33
  hadn't purchased Twitter and then just dismembered it and threw all the parts into the
• 2:11:39
  public eye. Maybe not all of them, but enough to start confirming people's
• 2:11:45
  suspicions that they had all along. I don't know. I know there's there's
• 2:11:50
  varied opinions on Musk and what he's doing, but I'm I'm kind of with
• 2:11:58
  I'm kind of on the uh. You know, everyone is discovering these things
• 2:12:03
  at their own pace, and either they're going to be honest with themselves and
• 2:12:09
  you know, be a part of bringing forth the truth, or they're going
• 2:12:13
  to hide from it and we can't. You know, it's like the Destiny
• 2:12:18
  thing, Like Destiny's either going to figure out that actually polyamory doesn't work,
• 2:12:22
  especially for men, or he's going to double down and hopefully he doesn't.
• 2:12:28
  And I think the same thing with Elon Musk. Either he's going to be
• 2:12:31
  like, you know what, you know all I've been I want to do
• 2:12:35
  the right thing. I don't care about like whether or not I make money
• 2:12:39
  or whatever, and I'm going to do that, or he's going to be
• 2:12:41
  a coward like most people. And I'm not saying that he will, but
• 2:12:45
  I think that most people are pretty morally cowardly about it. And I don't
• 2:12:50
  blame them. I understand it's scary stuff. So I'm hoping that musk will
• 2:12:54
  come around. Oh I thought you were laughing at me. No, it's
• 2:13:00
  okay, No, no, I I'm sorry, it's okay. You were
• 2:13:05
  coughing. I think we all have messed up throats today. We did put
• 2:13:11
  out that video in which he explicitly said that he's, you know, screw
• 2:13:18
  the you, screw the screw the advertisers. Yeah, yourself decided to destroy
• 2:13:24
  Twitter. Then he's just gonna make everything public. Yeah, I agree,
• 2:13:28
  and I mean that that's you know that, Like I said, I commend
• 2:13:31
  that. I think that's pretty based. But okay, so we've been going
• 2:13:37
  for about two hours and fifteen minutes and I don't know if we've even scratched
• 2:13:43
  the surface. I would definitely say watch Shielder's video. I put a link
• 2:13:48
  to it in the description. And if you want to check out Rachel Wilson's
• 2:13:52
  book, you can get a physical copy or an audio book. I don't
• 2:13:56
  think that there is a kindle version or PDF yet. Oh, try to
• 2:14:01
  get your hands on it if you're interested. I think it's would you would
• 2:14:05
  you recommend it generally, even if there's like stuff that you would do differently.
• 2:14:09
  Um uh yeah, As I said in the introduction of the Riot Up,
• 2:14:18
  yes, for the most part, I would recommend it. You do
• 2:14:24
  have to be aware that we haven't really touched on the author's very obvious orthodox
• 2:14:30
  Christian bias. We were kind of sort of skirted around it because it's not
• 2:14:33
  really worth getting into theological shit flinging over it. Yeah, it's not super
• 2:14:39
  relevant, but it is something you have to know is going to be there.
• 2:14:41
  Yeah, Like, be aware that you do get parts of this book
• 2:14:46
  which are very heavily influenced by this, especially her misunderstandings around paganism. You
• 2:14:54
  will have Bible Versus quoted at you in a couple of cases, unfortunately,
• 2:15:00
  and you will get slightly silly things like instead of talking about like the actual
• 2:15:07
  like an actual point of say, Luciferian links of the occult, instead just
• 2:15:11
  be lining into here's a Bible of us and here's why the Satanic Church is
• 2:15:15
  bad and it's because of the Heartbeat bill in Texas. It's like, okay,
• 2:15:18
  right, just stop, don't don't do that. But but you did
• 2:15:24
  that. There are there are bits like that where you will definitely feel like
• 2:15:28
  you're being preached at If you can ignore those bits, then the rest of
• 2:15:33
  it I think is definitely worth it. That stuff is the minority of what
• 2:15:37
  is in the book. It gives you a good timeline of events and a
• 2:15:43
  good timeline of some of the players that are involved in this, and that
• 2:15:48
  stuff is what is necessary. That stuff I think is key. Yeah,
• 2:15:52
  if you can. There's a lot to chew on. But there's a lot
• 2:15:58
  of the orthodox Christian bones that you need to spit out, unfortunately, because
• 2:16:05
  they are well I guess, I guess it comes to your opinion on Christianity.
• 2:16:09
  If you agree with it, you'll take it on board and think,
• 2:16:11
  yeah, this is great. If you're like me, you'll just be like,
• 2:16:15
  oh, please stop. You're making it very hard to keep you in
• 2:16:20
  the fifty one category. Yeah, all right, m So, okay,
• 2:16:28
  well we should close it out because normally when the streams go this long,
• 2:16:33
  we don't get as much retention. So I will say, I don't know
• 2:16:37
  if there's any like final things you want to make sure to get out there
• 2:16:43
  or if or what ooh, well, let me ask you this. Okay,
• 2:16:52
  so you've read this book, you did a video review on it,
• 2:16:54
  but this is just one on a journey that's gonna involve more. So what
• 2:17:00
  are what's the next thing you're going to be looking at and talking about?
• 2:17:03
  Yeah, okay, so yeah, we've got a stack of things. So
• 2:17:07
  we've done Anne Wilson Shafe's Women's Reality. That was book number one a Cult
• 2:17:13
  Feminism. This one was not actually on the reading list, but it was
• 2:17:16
  something that was mentioned to me in a comment under the the the Women's Reality
• 2:17:24
  video and someone was like, Hey, someone's done something like this. It's
• 2:17:28
  called this book. You might want to go and look at it. And
• 2:17:30
  I looked at it and so I read it. So to the person who
• 2:17:33
  mentioned this to me, I am grateful to them that that made it into
• 2:17:37
  the into the list, even though it is far and away, I'm going
• 2:17:41
  to say, the weakest book in the stack that I'm going through, but
• 2:17:46
  I'm still happy that it exists because, like I said, it's given me
• 2:17:48
  a few more leads to go into. So the next book is the one
• 2:17:54
  which I fanboy over a little bit occasionally, which is Radical Spirits by Ann
• 2:17:58
  Brown. That one is, I'm going to say, one of the better
• 2:18:03
  ones in the stack, which your bloody will should be given that it's written
• 2:18:07
  by one by someone who is actually a researcher and lecturer at Harvard Divinity.
• 2:18:15
  So I should hope that that's a very well written one. So that's the
• 2:18:18
  next one that we're going through. Mm hmmmm, hang on, I'm going
• 2:18:22
  to get the stack right, So okay, right, So we've got Radical
• 2:18:28
  Spirits. That's the next one that we're going to go through by am Browd.
• 2:18:31
  That's going to be book three on the list. Book four on the
• 2:18:33
  list will be American Feminism and the Birth of New Age Spirituality. That one's
• 2:18:37
  by Katherine Tumna. After that will do Divine Feminine, which is Theosophy and
• 2:18:41
  Feminism in England by Joy Dixon. We will then cover The Key to Theosophy
• 2:18:46
  by Helene bleov Atski, which is kind of a thin one. It's the
• 2:18:50
  Q and a how the hell do you explain Theosophy to someone who has no
• 2:18:54
  idea what the hell it is. I do have a copy of The Secret
• 2:18:56
  Doctrine, which is also by Helene Blovakski. This is seven hundred pages of
• 2:19:01
  everything to do with Theosophy, which I don't know if I'll do a video
• 2:19:05
  on because it'll be really really lengthy. Side books to that, which I'm
• 2:19:11
  also going to cover hopefully. We've got the Luciferian Feminism book whose author I
• 2:19:16
  cannot remember, let me look it up. Yeh, Satanic Feminism, which
• 2:19:22
  is by per Facts Neeld. That's one which is on the reading list,
• 2:19:28
  and that one is specifically about the Luciferian side of Satanism. Per fact Snelled
• 2:19:35
  actually believed that Lucifer would be the liberator of women because he rebelled against God
• 2:19:39
  and perceived that women needed to rebel against God to break the natural order of
• 2:19:43
  things. So I want to go through that one. There's also for a
• 2:19:48
  little bit more side reading. Another book which I've mentioned which I quoted from
• 2:19:54
  in the full write up of this, Hegel and the Hemetic, Yes,
• 2:20:01
  Hagel and the Hemetic Tradition is that's by Glenn McGhee. That one is obviously
• 2:20:07
  talking about Hagel and how his works went on to inspire the things in Hametica,
• 2:20:13
  which is part of the Gnostic tradition. I've got a few other side
• 2:20:18
  books as well, which I'm I'm more there for reference and a little bit
• 2:20:22
  of fun, Like I've got the Hagel Dictionary by Inward, which I referenced
• 2:20:26
  actually on this podcast earlier, which is just it's a dictionary of terms that
• 2:20:33
  Hegel uses just for odd words that he uses and phrases so that you've got
• 2:20:39
  sort of a few paragraphs that just expand on what that term means. Because
• 2:20:43
  Hegel's work is quite dense like that. I do recommend philosopher dictionaries like that,
• 2:20:48
  they're quite useful. Like I've also got things like the Nature Dictionary as
• 2:20:52
  well next to it, just to again when you're reading through these books,
• 2:20:54
  it's useful. There's another book which this is more just for fun than anything
• 2:21:01
  else, and I suppose a tangent for some other things that I've been reading.
• 2:21:05
  I've been getting into a small series of books to relax from all of
• 2:21:09
  this nonsense called a very Short Introduction to by Oxford Press. And they've got
• 2:21:16
  quite a few of them on a bunch of well a load of topics.
• 2:21:20
  They've published hundreds of them, and they are very short introductions to topics,
• 2:21:26
  like I got the Nature one, even though I've read a load of his
• 2:21:28
  books already, just to sort of see like what is in them, Like,
• 2:21:31
  how do how do they lay them out? What do they put in?
• 2:21:33
  What do they leave out to give you this short, like one hundred
• 2:21:39
  page a five book clip sort of introduction, And that one was very good.
• 2:21:43
  And I actually picked up the Hagel one as well, which I've gone
• 2:21:46
  through, and I've been finding that one quite interesting because even though like you
• 2:21:50
  can read through you know, books about Hegel like Hagel and the Hermetic Tradition,
• 2:21:54
  or you can actually read through some of his stuff, obviously you don't
• 2:21:58
  get a lot of biograph stuff in there. And I found that Beginner's Guide's
• 2:22:01
  actually a very interesting one because it gives you not only a discussion about his
• 2:22:07
  work, but also a bunch of like biographical information about what inspired his writing.
• 2:22:11
  So it sort of covers how Hegel was heavily influenced, like why was
• 2:22:18
  he so concerned with this end of history and this idea of this constant revolution.
• 2:22:22
  Well, obviously a lot of that was tied to the fact that there
• 2:22:26
  was a revolution happening in Germany and France at the time. So he saw
• 2:22:30
  the bastile, and he saw Napoleon, and he actually specifically called Napoleon when
• 2:22:35
  he saw him writing through his city having conquered it, actually said he saw
• 2:22:39
  this world spirit this great revolutionary figure, and so a lot of his teenage
• 2:22:43
  years and early twenties were basically spent in this constant swirl of progress and revolution.
• 2:22:50
  So it's perhaps not so much of a surprise that a lot of his
• 2:22:54
  philosophy came to this idea of revolution equal progress, and if we keep keep
• 2:23:01
  revoluting, eventually we will reach this fantastic end of history wherever or where all
• 2:23:07
  of these contradictions will be solved because of this constant revolution that was happening.
• 2:23:11
  And so it looks like in some part a lot of his writing was just
• 2:23:16
  inspired by the times and place that he was in, which would also then
• 2:23:20
  go on to indicate, like what we spoke about earlier, talking about these
• 2:23:24
  are the racial spirit, the volksgeist, and what not. Well, if
• 2:23:28
  if he was constantly inspired by this, this constant revolution, this constant influx
• 2:23:33
  of ideas and all of these things happening to him, well of course he'd
• 2:23:37
  come up with an idea like that. Why why wouldn't he? That was
• 2:23:39
  basically his lived experience, as it were. So it's just it's just interesting
• 2:23:43
  in that it put a bunch of like biographical stuff to a lot of his
• 2:23:50
  other works which you don't get when you just read what the author actually published
• 2:23:54
  for the most part, right, right, all right, do you have
• 2:24:00
  any final words? Wow? That's there's a lot going on there, guys,
• 2:24:03
  So definitely go check out TiAl Deer's channel. I put a link to
• 2:24:05
  the Rumble video and you can subscribe, and I would suggest that you do
• 2:24:11
  that and also look at whoever else is. I know that there are people
• 2:24:13
  that watch us on Rumble, but I think more of you guys should be
• 2:24:16
  on Rumble. I was just impressed by the level, the sheer amount of
• 2:24:22
  drek that you're going to. You know what's funny is that his name is
• 2:24:26
  literally too long, didn't read, but he seems to do a lot of
• 2:24:30
  reading. It's Fordid. It's it's my favorite insult that people throw at me,
• 2:24:39
  you know, from the Progs and the Leftoige. They're like, Tilda,
• 2:24:43
  that's his name and he doesn't read anything. It's just like, Okay,
• 2:24:46
  first of all, you've been making this joke for years. First,
• 2:24:48
  first of all, that the name is obviously not too long, didn't read.
• 2:24:52
  It's it's tiled it because it's a pun. It's funny, Yeah,
• 2:24:56
  because I find it funny. I still find it funny even after all these
• 2:25:00
  Yes, most people end up hating their screen names after years. I still
• 2:25:01
  find the turtle there are one to be funny because I think it is because
• 2:25:05
  I have the mind of a child somewhere. But they just keep making this
• 2:25:11
  joke, and it's like, but I literally have hours of me reading peer
• 2:25:18
  reviewed stuff and books and reviews of these things, so you can't even make
• 2:25:22
  that joke with any degree of honesty, and it just kind of reveals an
• 2:25:24
  underlying malice that they have to people, which I find to be quite fun.
• 2:25:31
  It's also why when it comes to dealing I suppose it's a little off
• 2:25:33
  topic and it comes to dealing with progs and the far left and the like,
• 2:25:37
  if you use a lot of like self deprecating humor in a lot of
• 2:25:43
  cases, they will just go full mask off and just be like, oh,
• 2:25:48
  well, at least he admits it. You know, if you're like,
• 2:25:50
  well, you know, I'm reading all of these things because it's gonna
• 2:25:52
  say me a while, because you know, I'm kind of dumb and I
• 2:25:54
  don't really get these things, and they're just like, oh, at least
• 2:25:56
  he knows these stupid It's just like it just unveils what awful people you're dealing
• 2:26:01
  with for the most part, because they can't even just no, they can't
• 2:26:09
  into human mode, which reminds me of the funniest thing I've ever read.
• 2:26:13
  It. It's another thing that is indelible to my hippocampus when I pointed out
• 2:26:18
  to someone that I do occasionally make jokes, and they literally all caps said
• 2:26:24
  serious writing or jokes. Deal, dear, you can't do both. Like
• 2:26:30
  the capital letters, you can't do both. It's like, I'm sorry,
• 2:26:33
  I didn't realize that at the age of eighteen, you were given a form
• 2:26:37
  with two checkboxes honored them. One of them was just be a scholar or
• 2:26:41
  be a clown. It's like, these are your two career paths for your
• 2:26:43
  entire life. You must pick one now, my son, you are a
• 2:26:48
  man, Now pick your future, big brain or stupid clown. Bizarre world
• 2:26:56
  these people in habit. But it's just it's funny, and those are the
• 2:27:01
  people, I suppose. Dragging it back around to some of what we've mentioned
• 2:27:03
  earlier, though, those are the sorts of people you can't reach with material
• 2:27:07
  like this because they don't actually know very much about any of these topics.
• 2:27:13
  They don't want to know. They just want to think that you're wrong and
• 2:27:18
  inferior and that they're better than you. And there's no point trying to reach
• 2:27:20
  those people. The only way that they will ever come around is if basically
• 2:27:26
  they think that they had the idea themselves, but they're not even open to
• 2:27:30
  the possibility of it. Like they're the closed minded people who are just like
• 2:27:35
  anything outside their canon or their world view is just to be shunned and not
• 2:27:39
  to be looked at, which again points to the fact that they're dealing with
• 2:27:41
  faith and not facts. Yeah, and so I've also been sort of reading
• 2:27:50
  this Diverting Hate Annual report in the background. That's why I sound a little
• 2:27:56
  distracted. It's pretty crazy, and I think it. I mean, it's
• 2:28:03
  it is in some ways the ultimate institutional manifestation of all of this, because
• 2:28:09
  when you look through it, it's a literal condemnation of the male point of
• 2:28:13
  view and then any man's opinion about their relationships to women, and of course
• 2:28:18
  that that strikes right at the heart of the idea that the only nois is
• 2:28:22
  female nosis. My talking bullshit. I don't know, no, tell me
• 2:28:30
  if I am okay. So is that is that the last you wanted to
• 2:28:35
  say? Till dear. To be fair, I didn't intend on saying half
• 2:28:41
  of that. It just kind of spilled out of me. It's all right
• 2:28:46
  topic, and was just like, oh, this is kind of funny.
• 2:28:48
  Screw it. Here, here's a here's a fun anecdote. Is why the
• 2:28:50
  hell not? Yeah, yeah, my throat's gonna get any better or worse?
• 2:28:58
  Well, okay, just on the on the on the topic of their
• 2:29:00
  malice. I wanted to see what would happen. Like I've been going back
• 2:29:03
  and forth with a feminist on Twitter for years now and I won't say her
• 2:29:11
  name because she doesn't deserve more attention, but a couple like earlier in this
• 2:29:16
  year, I was just like, you know what, I want to prove
• 2:29:20
  to myself that you are entirely motivated by malice. So everything that she said
• 2:29:26
  to me, I returned with, I hope some variation of I wish you
• 2:29:31
  well, I hope you find all happiness. Just keep. I just kept,
• 2:29:37
  and it was not facetious. So I would make an effort to find
• 2:29:43
  whatever she was talking about and say, oh, I hope that you and
• 2:29:46
  your husband are well and you have a good day. Oh, I hope
• 2:29:48
  that you do something fun with your son. Every time I said that,
• 2:29:52
  she would respond with the most vituperative, malicious interpretation of what I was saying.
• 2:30:01
  It was getting to be almost hilarious, like just just just just attributing
• 2:30:07
  this kind of malfeasance that had absolutely nothing to do with what I was actually
• 2:30:13
  saying. And I realized there was nothing that I could say, no positive
• 2:30:20
  well wishing, no helpful commentary, nothing that would abuse her of the notion
• 2:30:28
  that I was some kind of Satanic force. But you know, not like
• 2:30:31
  the good Satanic force, like the bad Satanic force, because now I see
• 2:30:35
  that they think there is a good Satanic force whatever the bad Satanic forces.
• 2:30:41
  It gets it's a little confusing to me. But anyway, there's nothing that
• 2:30:43
  would difuse There would be nothing that would abuse her of the notion that I
• 2:30:50
  wasn't pure evil. I'm like, why should I engage with someone like that?
• 2:30:56
  You know, And it's it's it's a good question. It's it's typical,
• 2:31:01
  like, why should anyone have to engage with a person who regards them
• 2:31:07
  to be irredeemable evil for no other reason than they disagree with them? Like,
• 2:31:15
  are you insane? Oh? Anyway, So I just found that funny.
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  So I found there is no point to engaging in with a lot of
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  them. Unfortunately. Yeah, it's it's kind of sad. But I mean,
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  in some ways, I if I wanted to steal man the position.
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  Could it be that she thought you were concerned trolling? Because you know,
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  you do get those people where they'll they'll leave a comment on something. It's
• 2:31:43
  very obviously they disagree with you, and they'll be like, oh, you
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  know, I forgot that you said such horrible, evil, racist things.
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  I hope that one day you'll be happy. No, because they're obviously doing
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  it in like a malicious way where they're like, oh, I'm just better
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  than you, because you know, I'm enlightened, monk, and you obviously
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  have something mentally wrong with you. Somehow, I was genuinely trying to say,
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  you know, something of the kin to you know, or both human
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  beings. We both probably enjoy pictures of cute cats and want the best for
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  our relatives. Why don't we meet on those terms? You know, why
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  don't we recognize each other as human on those terms? And I mean it's
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  something that I think about a lot because you know, no matter how nasty
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  I think people you know on the left are, there are aspects to them
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  that are relatable and human. And I was attempting to relate to her on
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  that level, and it was like it was like engaging with the brick bloody
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  wall, Like it's like, no, you're not a human, you're some
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  kind of devil and not me like. And I wasn't saying that to her.
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  She was engaging with me that way, and it's like that is not
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  good. That that's not a way of going forward, is to presume that
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  everybody who disagrees with you lacks any humanity. So anyway, but that your
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  You're anecdote about your your your nickname sort of reminded me of that. It's
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  just there's there's the complete and utter inability to recognize the humanity of anyone who
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  doesn't believe as you do, and then thinking that that makes you a good
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  person. Does it? I don't know anyway, That's that's what I wanted
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  to point out. There. Again, another little rant, so I will
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  just say the things I guess Brian. Yeah, let's wrap it up.
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  First of all, thanksteal Dear for coming on and sharing with us, uh
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  what you have found and look forward to doing more of these because I think
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  where I mean, maybe this is a little getting a little ahead of things,
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  but I feel like on some level this isn't just a like a rational
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  battle or a political battle, but a spiritual battle. It would seem so
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  anyway. Yeah, So thanks TiAl dear for for coming on and and sharing.
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  It is a spiritual battle, unfortunately, but it's it's fine. I
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  shall return to my mountain and return someday to say things as an as an
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  unsure profit of doom. I always thought your your name meant that you read
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  the long thing and then summarized it for everyone else. Well, that is
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  what it would normally be used for. But remember, if you hate someone,
• 2:34:46
  you have to have their worst possible interpretation. So the interpretation that they
• 2:34:50
  go with is that I'm actually illiterate, completely you illiterate? Huh. Okay,
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