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IT CAME FROM SCREAMBOX: FeardotCom! · WASD and Beyond

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  Out of that house. Oh, yeah, Yeah.
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  Yeah. Welcome back everybody to
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  another episode of It Came From Scream Box where we discussed
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  Just say hello. We love you Alex is what did you
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  pick? I chose 2002 fear.com this week.
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  This has been brought up more than a few times over past
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  episodes. Bartok from Onyx the Fortuitous
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  is in this movie. Crazy, crazy.
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  Who, who, Who are they in the movie?
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  He was psyched. Yeah, the detective.
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  The guy that gets got at the end.
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  Yeah, that's right. Not Stephen Dorff, though.
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  No, I was not. Stephen Dorff's partner.
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  Yeah, yeah. That's, Yep.
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  Stephen Dorff is Mike. And if anyone hasn't seen
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  fear.com yet by this point, it has been 20 something odd
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  fucking years. Fucking it's been about that
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  long since I watched it. Yeah.
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  It's just it's a movie about people who go on a website and
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  two days later they end up dead or they kill themselves before
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  the two days are over. Yep, that's pretty much the
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  movie. Because their fears come true.
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  It's almost like a pseudo ring film.
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  Yeah, very much so. It is a little bit like the
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  ring, isn't it? Yeah, very, very much so.
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  You know what though? I'm going to say this.
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  As a kid, this movie would be on Cinemax all the time.
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  For some reason, as a younger man, a child, this young boy
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  seemed a lot scarier and more fucked up than what it is.
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  Seeing it now in my 30s, it's not as bad at all.
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  You know that as I remember, it's really not.
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  And because you could talk about like, quote UN quote gore, there
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  really is none here. The scares, it's got some good
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  scares, but I think the thing that I'm now seeing and I'm not
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  I I thought this was more because that's been so long.
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  It's been 20 something years since I've seen the film.
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  I thought this was more of a website thing.
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  And it is. But this is more like
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  supernatural, psychological, not just like, hey, there's a
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  website out there that people are being murdered on.
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  We have to figure out who's hosting the site, you know, and
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  all this and, you know, using the site.
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  This is like, hey, there's supernatural element, which is
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  briefly touched on. The movie's kind of all over the
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  place at points where it's like they bring in the guy who wrote
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  the book and and they never go back to that.
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  And it's like, OK, where are we at here?
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  But that's just my gripes with it because I remember it being a
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  lot scarier, more fucked up as a child and now it's the.
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  Imagery. It's more the.
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  Imagery, but even. That I'm not.
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  I wasn't pressed about a. Lot of the the violence in the
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  movie, it's very like there is, it's the insinuation of
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  violence, like there's a whole, should we just say spoilers
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  right off the RIP? Yeah, it's 20 year old Louis.
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  Yeah, You know, yeah. Go, go watch it if you haven't.
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  I, I thought I liked it. I mean, it was, it was all over
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  the place. And I think that was like a
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  stylistic choice partially. But it was. 2000s.
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  Yeah, the great. Like the premise of the movies,
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  there's like a website, and if you go to the website, it
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  somehow knows who you are and like what you're afraid of and
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  then makes those things happen. That's where the supernatural
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  bend comes in, 'cause I thought it was like it knows who you are
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  and then it like lures you to a place or that's the scare.
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  Is that it? Which is what I thought as a
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  kid. Yeah, but it turns out to be
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  like a like a spirit based like ghost type thing.
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  But there is also a guy running a like a.
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  What did you guys call it? It's a red room.
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  A red room where he's like torturing people on camera or
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  whatever and they get to participate.
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  It's like a live stream, you know, he's a real Twitch
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  pioneer, this guy. But the the movie mostly focuses
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  on that. And then I'll spread throughout.
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  There's these supernatural elements.
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  It really kind of kept me wondering because I was really
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  expecting like a grounded Crime Story.
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  Yeah. It was not that.
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  It's there though. It's there.
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  But let me ask you guys this Would this have been a better
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  film had it been that more grounded, gritty, gruesome Crime
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  Story? I think they would have, if it
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  was like more real, I think they would have leaned, they would
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  have leaned into the violence a little bit more.
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  And I'm kind of glad they didn't because this kind of the, like,
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  insinuated torture that would have just been like, I think at
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  the time, people would have probably just compared it to
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  SAW. They would have been like, oh,
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  it's just like SAW, but this has been.
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  Foresaw, though, was it not? Is it?
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Foresaw. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Oh.
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  So this would have been like a trailblazer.
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  So I don't know, maybe maybe they didn't think that it was
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  something they could get away with, but I have.
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  I have a feeling the supernatural element was written
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  in before any of that. Yeah, it's cool.
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  Like I definitely liked it a lot more as a younger dude.
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  And to Alex's point, I remember playing on the little website at
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  school trying to freak people out.
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  Yeah, there was like a whole like, Arg for this movie, if I'm
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  not mistaken. There was.
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  Yeah, there's a there. There's an active website you
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  can click around and do stuff. See, as we were watching it and
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  I was seeing it was showing more of the like what the fictional
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  website looks like. I was like, I was wondering, I
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  bet they made this website for like the marketing the same way
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  you remember what they did for Black Christmas where they had
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  the phone line set up. Yeah.
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  Oh yeah. I mean a lot of movies back then
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  had early websites on. Like movies don't really have
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  websites anymore. Yeah, no, I remember the Tomb
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  Raider website. I know this is like two
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  different realms, but the Tomb Raider website, before you
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  actually got to see like Angelina Jolie as Lara Croft and
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  all that, but like that had like a puzzle system on the website.
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  It was kind of crazy from what I remember.
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  But for this, I think what it does well is the exploration in
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  the fact that we don't have a full grasp of what the Internet
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  holds truly, and what lurks on the web.
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  And I just think that if they would have delved a bit deeper
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  into that at the time, that could have been something way
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  more terrifying. I don't need to see like full on
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  fucking tits being cut off. But I could, I could have used
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  nowadays that extra bit of oomph and shock and awe in the film
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  like this. Because that's what I thought it
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  was going into this home tonight.
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  I was like, oh dude, it's fear.com.
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  Here we go. Watch it now.
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  And I'm like, oh, it's just fear.com, OK.
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  Were you disappointed? Yeah, a bit because of from it,
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  just it was a lot different than I remember.
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  Right. And that's fine.
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  It's still a good movie. It's it's, it's your.
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  Typical 2000s horror movie. All the movies around that time
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  were damn near the fucking same. You got this ghost ship pass on
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  Haunted Hill and like it's all same dark gritty, can't see
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  shit. Grungy, yeah.
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  And it's just all somewhat supernatural and like it's,
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  they're all like the same as just the 2000s, early 2000s
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  horror movies. That's how they were.
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  It's fun. Would you say that this movie is
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  very much like of its time? 100%.
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  Yeah, it's dated. It dates itself pretty hard with
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  how the Internet's being used and all that.
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  Talk about it. Yeah, I, I, I honestly do think
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  if this was given another shot nowadays, First off, you would
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  have to do it in a very specific way to where?
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  Because like, you know, as Noah pointed out, and we all kind of
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  made a joke. It's like we have Elon Musk's
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  Twitter. If I don't, if I want to watch
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  someone die, I can watch someone die on Twitter.
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  You can't make a movie on that because we all 5 year olds can
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  figure out how to do that on Twitter.
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  The, you know, Overton window heads shifted pretty heavily
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  since 2002 whenever this was made.
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  Because like, now, if you like that kind of thing, I think
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  people would see that. Like if they made this movie set
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  in 2026, you would see that and you'd be like, oh, OK, what's
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  this? They wouldn't really think
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  anything of it. They would have to go so far
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  into it for it to not seem. Like Goofy.
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  Like just an overt reference to something that's happened.
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  And that like this is a trend that I'm noticing that we're
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  like bringing up. I think it came up like it came
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  up in the Savage Flowers episode.
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  It came up in the Necro necromantic episode where like
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  these movies worked back then because the overall like
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  experience of people back then is not the same as it is now.
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  Like there was that kind of like horrific shit on the Internet
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  back then like you guys are talking about, but now it's way
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  more like front of the Internet where back then it was like a
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  quiet corner. You had to get it, you had to.
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  You had to figure that out. Now you, it's like I said, it's
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  a quick search, but this movie, I still think that website
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  designed for the film is so fucking cool.
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  Like I still think a lot of it is so fucking cool.
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  I almost just a big part of me, which is supernatural shit
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  wasn't a part of it. There's a huge part of me that
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  just doesn't want the supernatural there.
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  And it's, it's because I just, I think that you can show
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  depravity, the depravity of the Internet without it, 'cause you,
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  it's just human psyche at that point.
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  It's just humans being humans given a platform that is equal
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  to God. The Internet is God if you
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  really want to delve deep into that.
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  The Internet is the literal sense of physical form.
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  It's God like. You can get anything from it.
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  Any wish you want is on the Internet.
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  So yeah, anything you want to see?
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  Yeah. So like I would have liked that
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  a bit more. And I think you could do this
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  properly nowadays if you just show that depravity on the
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  Internet and what people are willing to dive into on the
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  Internet without any thought. 4th like forethought in their
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  brain of this is wrong. Because that's the thing like
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  especially with like the younger kids now just able to get it.
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  I seem so much content on like TikTok and Twitter and Instagram
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  of like 14 year olds on the deep web, like getting onto like the
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  hidden wiki and like shit like that.
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  And I'm like, I wasn't I was like 17 trying to do that.
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  Now these kids are just on it with the Tor browser and they're
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  finding all this fucked up shit going.
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  Oh, this is bad. That's like, but they're already
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  doing this. You you would have to show kids
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  doing that. You would have to show the
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  lengths of which people would go down to get to that content.
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  The true content that this movie is referencing, which is a red
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  room, which is usually to preface what a red room is, is
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  it's fake. Most red rooms are fake.
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  They are hosted by feds or they're scams.
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  But what a red room is, is a interactive kill room where you
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  pay it's a billionaire killer room or millionaire billionaire
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  killer room where they pay large money to tell to orchestrate a
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  murder. That's what that is.
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  And you get to like be involved with that.
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  You're telling the Yeah. Or were they?
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  Were they? Was that kind of thing ever
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  real? Red rooms yeah it's hap yes no,
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  yes no it's it's difficult to decipher of course it it's real
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  of course something like that is real 'cause you it it's it's
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  1000% it's just snuff, but you direct the snuff and so you.
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  Yeah, it's, it's, it's been done.
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  Almost. It's you almost can't deny that.
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  It's definitely happened at least once.
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  Because. They show in the movie you were
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  like the like do the cursor over all the tools and you could pick
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  what to use and he would use it on said victim and that's what
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  they would do in these quote UN quote red.
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  Rooms. So what are what I've heard a
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  red Room would do is like have almost like a pole system like
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  knife, hammer gun, bolt gun type thing that you know, like cattle
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  bolt, things like that, torture, blah blah blah blah blah.
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  Evidence of it is so scarce because if it exists, it's
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  literally Epstein level of existence, right?
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  That is where that lies. It doesn't.
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  It's not for people like us. No, we don't get to experience
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  that, that we don't want to. No, no, no, no.
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  That's OK with me. I.
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  Don't. Yeah, I don't want.
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  I don't want it and it. Happens none of that.
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  Supposedly a lot of it's in the Eastern bloc of Europe as well.
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  So my, it's always easy. Yeah, yeah, we fucking up.
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  We, we, we gave the world vampires like Dos Ferrato, but
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  hit him with a hit him with a but I mean, I, I just wanted the
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  movie to yeah, I, I, I wanted to dive more into that.
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  And it doesn't, it dives far further into the, you know,
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  spiritual, psychological nature of it, which is fine.
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  I don't I. Don't have, I think there's a
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  big aspect of it that's like, like, I, I mean, I don't know,
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  I, I feel like I was four in 2002 when this came out.
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  That's crazy. I was not on the Internet yet,
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  really. I mean, no one really was.
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  I mean, people worry, but not. It was it was early days you
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  had. To have money, to have Internet
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  in your house. Was it with that, that wouldn't
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  have been dial up. That would have been, yeah, we
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  would have. That would have.
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  OK. All right.
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  So that would have been. There was broadband.
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  I believe there was Broadband 2002.
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  You're still getting Internet on CDs.
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  I wonder, like, did they go with the supernatural element?
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  Because I'm sure at the time people were thinking like, you
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  know, as soon as they got the Internet and like, it became a
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  thing that you could access. It was like this is only a
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  matter of time before somebody used this for something
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  horrible. I guarantee the first thing that
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  was thought was OK. So when is pornography and
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  murder on this? Yeah.
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  Instantly. That was an instant thought,
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  guaranteed, but. But it like, it kind of like, I
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  don't know, the movie kind of cheapens itself by making it
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  this supernatural thing. And it's like there's a little
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  bit of hinting toward it, but then right at the end, it's just
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  like spirits and hallucinations and ghosts and like you'd see
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  something so horrific that your eyes roll over black and you
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  just die. It shoots kind of tough it a.
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  Little bit. It shoots itself in the foot
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  because the whole doctor thing. The doctor aspect on the camera
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  is so cool. Like this dude who's in a shit
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  area that he essentially probably just I guess rents or
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  squats it he's. Just like hanging out there,
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  nobody knows that he's there, so he's just right.
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  Just. Continue doing what he's doing.
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  You know, that's, that's, that's cool of me.
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  But then you add the ghosts and I'm like OK well the Internet is
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  giving these ghosts power because of the Internet's either
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  electromagnetic field or however it's really explained because of
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  computers, which nowadays isn't the science, that ghosts are
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  almost becoming non existent because of all the all of our
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  technology. Yeah, there's a there's a theory
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  that radio. We are going there today, voice
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  girls. Like wireless data waves are
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  interfering with the ghost electromagnetism.
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  Yeah, all that, all that junk, which is a.
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  That's fine, I don't. Need them in my house.
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  I don't need them. I don't need them.
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  I don't. I don't need a ghost in my house
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  all pissed off and mopy. I just.
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  Does he just want to be your friend though?
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  I don't want it. This is Casper.
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  That's my guy. Yeah, I just wonder what this
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  movie would have, if it would have been better without that
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  element. And it would have just like you
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  could. Apply all of the supernatural
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  stuff to being like paranoia and like the unknown of this new
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  technology. It's like breaking your psyche
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  almost. But here's the thing.
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  I still love this movie. It's got this like little thing
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  in my brain where I it's, it's like a nostalgia trip going, Oh
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  my God, I still love this because there are these very
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  awesome shots in this film. Like that's what this film does
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  so good where it's like it provides you because it's so
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  grainy and granular, but then it gives you these nice, crisp,
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  clear, beautifully shot moments, especially the white hallway
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  with the woman who is like all white with the blood that she
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  throws up. And it's like, that is a awesome
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  shot. The torture, the quote, well,
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  the quick flashes of torture scenes, the implementations
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  there are very cool to look at. The belt boob thing looked so
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  uncomfortable for that actress. That sucked, probably.
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  Yeah, it's, you know, movie magic, but a lot of it, it just
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  looks like real dingy, you know? Yeah, I wonder if it's a way to.
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  Everything looks gross. You can.
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  You can get away with hiding shit when it's super dingy,
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  yeah. I was going to say Alex.
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  I was wondering if they chose to film that grungy and dingy and
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  dark so they can hide a lot of what they couldn't afford.
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  Yeah, I mean, I think so. I think those like little
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  filmmaking tricks. Do we know what like the budget
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  for this movie was? I have not a clue.
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  I would like to see if we can get the director on the show.
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  It is. The budget was 40 million. 40
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  million, How much did it make? 18 point. 9.
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  Yikes. Was there any ever any sequels
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  or anything? Any following?
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  Material. No, and it got like it got
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  pretty bad. I mean it does not have good
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  scores on on the sites. They they beat the dog shit out
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  of this film, you know? I think it's very much of its
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  time. It's an early Internet based
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  horror movie for this thing that is like unimaginably different
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  now than what they could have possibly thought for 2002.
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  They probably like they were like, oh, this is the craziest
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  thing that will ever be on the Internet.
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  And then, you know, Fast forward 20 years and that stuff that
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  they thought was like unspeakable or that they thought
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  could never appear as like, it's just on Twitter.
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  Yeah. You know, everything's fake,
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  everything's AI, everything's real, but like who knows hashtag
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  ad like it's it's so different, like it's almost like naive of
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  them. You know, when they think this
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  is what like the Internet is capable of, It's so.
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  Much peak, they thought. Yeah, it's it's a look into what
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  people were thinking back then. And I think when you put it in
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  that framing it, it helps the movie too be a little bit less
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  campy. I mean, fuck dude, one day
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  listening back on this episode, the Internet for Landon will be
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  vastly different than what we're doing right now.
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  Yeah. You know, and he's gonna be
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  like, Dad, that I can just plug myself into the Internet.
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  Now I'm walking through a virtual mall.
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  What are you talking about? Yeah.
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  Player one type shit straight up.
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  Or we just sound like a bunch of assholes 20 years down the road,
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  and that's fine. It's not like assholes already.
• 23:53
  So like, yeah, whatever. No, I, I, I still think this is
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  a fun movie. I like, I, I do enjoy the
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  concept, even if I should have subverted expectations because I
• 24:06
  didn't really quite remember what was going on.
• 24:10
  I love Stefan Dorff though. I love him.
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  The cover art makes. It yes.
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  Think it's going to be a lot worse than it really is seeing.
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  That in a blockbuster, yeah. I had a poster of this in my
• 24:27
  room. That is cool 13.
• 24:29
  That is cool. You know what this?
• 24:31
  Reminds me of this and Gothica posters.
• 24:34
  You know what this makes me remember?
• 24:35
  Tooth Fairy Darkness falls. Darkness Falls.
• 24:39
  Such a good movie, sorry. Darkness falls.
• 24:42
  I wish that was on screen box. Darkness Falls was good.
• 24:47
  God damn. That like similar in in tone.
• 24:51
  Tooth fairy. Tooth.
• 24:53
  That's all we got to say. Horror movie about the Tooth
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  fairy? Yeah.
• 24:59
  I've seen that South Park episode.
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  I know everything about the tooth fairy.
• 25:03
  Oh man, that's a good episode. I might have to watch that for a
• 25:05
  minute. But this movie still at times
• 25:08
  gave me the creepies because I was sitting in the room,
• 25:11
  obviously watching it with you guys.
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  And there was like a minute where there was some really
• 25:17
  fucking like, you know, you know, scary subject matter in
• 25:20
  the movie. And something like shifted to my
• 25:23
  room. I was like, and I like got into
• 25:24
  like locked position where I was like, oh, I'm just going to die
• 25:27
  in my chair. And I'm like, oh, this is just
• 25:29
  fear.com. What are we doing right now,
• 25:31
  Nick? There's nothing.
• 25:33
  I don't think it's like it's not silly at all.
• 25:35
  It takes it's all very seriously.
• 25:39
  Like we say, the subject matter is very serious.
• 25:41
  I I'm kind of confused why it got like panned so hard by
• 25:47
  critics. I mean, I assume they're going
• 25:48
  to say like the pacing is weird and the and the editing is
• 25:52
  weird, which it is, but I don't know what.
• 25:56
  Siskel and Ebert said. Like, I don't think it hurts it.
• 26:01
  I think some of the pacing of the film heard it and I think
• 26:07
  some of like the throwaway concepts like the writer, like
• 26:11
  the book writer, he's used once and that should have been a
• 26:15
  character you returned to after finding a bit.
• 26:18
  You know what I mean? Like it's kind of like a you go
• 26:20
  back and forth with them. You don't just use them once
• 26:23
  while he's getting a blow. We had a bar and then go, OK,
• 26:26
  cool. We got our information from that
• 26:28
  guy. You go back, you explore more of
• 26:30
  these murders like the the if you don't want to go down the if
• 26:36
  you if you want to discuss the Internet thing, discuss it.
• 26:41
  But if you don't want to go down it, then go down the detective
• 26:44
  work. Let's do that, right, Because
• 26:48
  then the problem is this movie now lives in the same universe
• 26:52
  as Saw. Yep, you know, a couple years
• 26:56
  later you get Saw. So if you look at well, I'll
• 26:59
  just watch Saw. Yeah, because it's it's sort of
• 27:04
  riding the line. I don't know, people would have
• 27:09
  to let us know what they think. I think I I really think that
• 27:12
  like and I don't I don't really know this, but it that's it's
• 27:16
  early 2000s. I don't really know when the
• 27:19
  2000s style shaky Cam like blurry everything, quick shots
• 27:26
  and slow shots. I don't know when that started.
• 27:28
  If this was sort of at the beginning of that, I could see
• 27:31
  why people would be like this is jarring and I don't like it.
• 27:33
  Yeah, I don't know if it's that. This definitely wasn't like a
• 27:37
  pioneer of it, but it's definitely one of the earlier
• 27:39
  films with it. But you would give.
• 27:43
  It a number. Huh.
• 27:45
  You just. Want to give it a number?
• 27:48
  Yes, Alex, what do you want to give it your pick?
• 27:50
  I'll give it a three out of five.
• 27:52
  OK, OK. I would also go three out of
• 27:55
  five. Where it's it's worth watching,
• 28:00
  I don't know. I don't know what it would be
• 28:03
  like on a rewatch. We're probably not going to find
• 28:05
  out, but definitely worth watching.
• 28:08
  Friends it's. Another 20 years.
• 28:11
  Another 20 years in 2046. We'll watch it.
• 28:17
  Sounds like a plan. I'll meet you there.
• 28:19
  I'll give it a I'll give it. I'll give it a three out of five
• 28:22
  as well. It's not a bad movie.
• 28:24
  It suffers from pacing. It suffers from weird sound
• 28:29
  design, which I think of the sound design was on par or if it
• 28:33
  was improved upon, it could have added a lot of more.
• 28:37
  It could have added a lot more elements of some good scares.
• 28:42
  But again, it just shoots itself in the foot with the spiritual
• 28:45
  shit where you could have created a thing where back then
• 28:51
  they could have done like this whole like there there's a
• 28:54
  website that people are going on to and it tracks where they live
• 28:59
  and they're being abducted. You could have done that and
• 29:03
  that would have been way scarier than supernatural because then
• 29:06
  you'd go, this is real because it's a real thing, But it's
• 29:09
  still fun to watch. Watch it with your friends at
• 29:11
  least once. You know, even if you're riffing
• 29:14
  it, just go watch it. It is a fun time and again as I
• 29:17
  mean it's still a banger from Alex My.
• 29:21
  Another very solid pick. Even though he looks sad hearing
• 29:25
  us talk about it. No, it's it was rose colored
• 29:28
  glasses. It hits you too then, yeah, it's
• 29:33
  like, yeah, OK. Nothing wrong with that.
• 29:37
  No. No, it's my first time seeing.
• 29:39
  I never even heard of this movie I don't think.
• 29:43
  Well, you said you went down a bit of a rabbit hole looking up
• 29:46
  stuff with this film or no? Yeah, 'cause I 'cause the, the
• 29:49
  first thing like I thought of was how you can just like see
• 29:53
  stuff like that. And I thought of like our, our
• 29:56
  slash watch people die, how that got like banned somewhat
• 30:00
  recently. But then it just, they just made
• 30:03
  it into its own thing and how like that kind of thing is still
• 30:06
  super front facing. Like you could just look that up
• 30:09
  and find it's not hard to find. So it kind, it kind of just made
• 30:15
  this, it softened it a little bit.
• 30:19
  Yeah, yeah, 'cause. Everything we just have, they
• 30:23
  wouldn't have. They would never know that.
• 30:25
  And most people, I think, probably know that there's bad
• 30:29
  stuff on the Internet and they would see a movie like this,
• 30:32
  like going back and be like, yeah, OK, big deal.
• 30:35
  Like we have that. Now, yeah, we have murders at
• 30:39
  home, Mom. Yeah, we have murders at home.
• 30:45
  So yeah, very interesting. The twist is is definitely worth
• 30:50
  watching for if if for nothing that.
• 30:52
  That special effect was great, by the way, The brain.
• 30:56
  He liked all that. All that.
• 30:58
  Yeah, that's it's probably the best shot in the whole movie.
• 31:01
  I was like yeah dude, so good. See some of the CGI was cracked
• 31:06
  me. Up of its time, Pretty much of
• 31:10
  its time. They had to use it as much as
• 31:12
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