Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 9-15-26 Hour 3 - Broncos POSITIVES from last night?/Adam Schefter/Another attempt at positivity

Transcript

9-15-26 Hour 3 - Broncos POSITIVES from last night?/Adam Schefter/Another attempt at positivity · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane On Demand. Listen live
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: every weekday morning from 7 to 10 on Altitude Sports
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Radio 92.5 and on the Altitude Sports Radio app.
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: That really hurt. I'm going to have a lump there,
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: you idiot.
• 0:31
  Speaker 3: Who throws a shoe?
• 0:32
  Speaker 4: Honestly.
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: Take that, Nelly.
• 0:37
  Speaker 4: You got to take our frustration somewhere. Adam Schefter is
• 0:39
  Speaker 4: going to be with us in 20 minutes, so stay
• 0:41
  Speaker 4: tuned for that.
• 0:43
  Speaker 3: You want a positive?
• 0:44
  Speaker 4: Vic wanted to put a different spit on this, and
• 0:49
  Speaker 4: I'd love to hear it. Because Vic goes, let's talk
• 0:51
  Speaker 4: about what you found positive from the game. And I'm
• 0:54
  Speaker 4: going to be honest with you. I don't think I
• 0:58
  Speaker 4: got an answer for you. If I had to choose something,
• 1:03
  Speaker 4: Evan Ingram looked better. But what do you want from me?
• 1:09
  Speaker 3: I'm asking you to come up. Give me a spin.
• 1:11
  Speaker 3: Here's a positive. Give me a positive. There were no
• 1:15
  Speaker 3: season-ending injuries last night. That's a positive, bro.
• 1:19
  Speaker 4: Here's one.
• 1:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Ingram had a nice touchdown catch. I've got one.
• 1:22
  Speaker 3: I've got one. Here's one.
• 1:24
  Speaker 4: Sean Payton didn't take over play calling duties at halftime,
• 1:26
  Speaker 4: which I thought he might try new.
• 1:29
  Speaker 3: I've got one for you. This is a positive. Now,
• 1:33
  Speaker 3: whether you guys want to hold this as a positive
• 1:37
  Speaker 3: is up to you. I see it as a positive.
• 1:40
  Speaker 3: If you're going to play a crap game, like a
• 1:44
  Speaker 3: woeful game where nothing worked, let it be your first
• 1:47
  Speaker 3: game of the season. Let it be your first game.
• 1:50
  Speaker 3: Last year, again, I brought this up, the Patriots lost
• 1:55
  Speaker 3: to the Raiders and made the AFC title game. In 2005,
• 1:59
  Speaker 3: the Broncos in the first game of the season were
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: blown out by the Miami Dolphins. Blown out, and they
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: made the AFC title game. You can come.
• 2:09
  Speaker 4: Back from this kind of game.
• 2:12
  Speaker 3: When was this? 2005.
• 2:14
  Speaker 4: 2005.
• 2:15
  Speaker 3: You can come back. That's when they lost to Big Ben.
• 2:17
  Speaker 3: From game one. Game one is almost like another preseason
• 2:21
  Speaker 3: game for a lot of these coaches, to be honest
• 2:23
  Speaker 3: with you. You can. You can rebuild it. As long
• 2:27
  Speaker 3: as you know what your faults are. Vic, it's still
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: a good football team. It's a darn good football team.
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: This is a good football team, bro. It's a very
• 2:33
  Speaker 3: good football team. And that's why, as critical as we
• 2:36
  Speaker 3: have been this morning, and we have piled on, and
• 2:39
  Speaker 3: rightfully so, it's game one. You have plenty of time
• 2:45
  Speaker 3: to rebound from that atrocity we witnessed last night. So
• 2:49
  Speaker 3: if there's a positive, let it all happen in game one.
• 2:52
  Speaker 4: I would say that's more perspective than positive.
• 2:55
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 2:57
  Speaker 4: But this is driving me nuts. ESPN right now has a,
• 3:01
  Speaker 4: what do you call them? Chiron? Is that what they are?
• 3:04
  Speaker 3: Chiron.
• 3:06
  Speaker 4: More impressive performance last night. Mahomes or Kenneth Walker? And
• 3:12
  Speaker 4: how is this even a remote discussion?
• 3:14
  Speaker 3: How's that a question? Did you watch the game?
• 3:17
  Speaker 4: I'm really curious if people actually watched the game. Because
• 3:22
  Speaker 4: there's one conclusion you come to with Mahomes. And that
• 3:26
  Speaker 4: he wasn't good last night.
• 3:28
  Speaker 3: He was pedestrian at best, and they still blew you out.
• 3:32
  Speaker 4: That's the whole thing. Like, part of the reason for
• 3:35
  Speaker 4: the anger that I have today Is you lost by
• 3:38
  Speaker 4: 21 points in a game where I thought Mahomes was awful.
• 3:43
  Speaker 4: He couldn't complete a pass past five yards. He didn't
• 3:47
  Speaker 4: have a single air yard completion of over 10 yards
• 3:51
  Speaker 4: in that entire game.
• 3:52
  Speaker 3: Lowest in the league.
• 3:53
  Speaker 4: He started two of 12.
• 3:55
  Speaker 3: But he's a good kid.
• 3:58
  Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker broke, what was the number, Boj? 18,000 tackles
• 4:03
  Speaker 4: last night? What did you say?
• 4:04
  Speaker 3: He broke 11 on his own last night. The Denver
• 4:07
  Speaker 3: Broncos gave up 247 yards after contact. 63% of the
• 4:14
  Speaker 3: Chiefs' yards last night came after the initial tackle. You
• 4:19
  Speaker 3: want a positive, Vic?
• 4:19
  Speaker 4: Can you say that number one more time?
• 4:21
  Speaker 3: Say it one more time. 63% of all of the
• 4:24
  Speaker 3: Chiefs' yards last night came after the initial contact. 247 yards.
• 4:29
  Speaker 4: What was that? What was that, Nelly?
• 4:33
  Speaker 3: What was that?
• 4:36
  Speaker 4: That would be your old-fashioned yak stat.
• 4:38
  Speaker 3: Do you know how much yak took place on that
• 4:41
  Speaker 3: field last night? The amount of yak that took place
• 4:50
  Speaker 3: at Arrowhead last night was almost unruly. That game made
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: me want a yak. So, why is that so funny
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: to me? Because you know what? When this goes down
• 5:05
  Speaker 3: in the archives, and they go, hey guys, season opener, 2026.
• 5:10
  Speaker 3: Give me one word to describe that game. Nick. Hang on,
• 5:14
  Speaker 3: hang on.
• 5:15
  Speaker 4: I gotta look this up, because that has to be
• 5:17
  Speaker 4: close to the record.
• 5:18
  Speaker 3: Vic, if you want another positive, honestly, the Knicks pass
• 5:21
  Speaker 3: to Ingram... It was a pretty damn good pass. It
• 5:24
  Speaker 3: was perfect play. Yeah. I mean, it was a really
• 5:28
  Speaker 3: good pass to the side of the end zone. And
• 5:30
  Speaker 3: what made that play happen is two Chiefs went directly
• 5:33
  Speaker 3: at Jalen Waddell, who, you know, shown himself underneath in
• 5:37
  Speaker 3: the flat, and that gave Ingram one-on-one in the corner,
• 5:40
  Speaker 3: and it was delivered perfectly. And at that point, it
• 5:42
  Speaker 3: was 7-7, and you're thinking to yourself, I know what
• 5:45
  Speaker 3: you're thinking. You're thinking what I was thinking. All right,
• 5:47
  Speaker 3: the Broncos woke up. Here we go. They're going to
• 5:49
  Speaker 3: win this game. That's how I felt. That's how I felt, too.
• 5:51
  Speaker 3: Let's go. They're going to win this game. And then,
• 5:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, that drive, Vic, was a really good drive. Yeah.
• 5:57
  Speaker 3: That drive was a really good drive. And then Kenneth
• 6:01
  Speaker 3: Walker got the ball. And what happened with Kenneth Walker
• 6:03
  Speaker 3: and the ball in his hands? All right.
• 6:08
  Speaker 4: This is driving me insane. This is driving me nuts.
• 6:11
  Speaker 4: I'm just going to say one more thing, and then
• 6:13
  Speaker 4: I'll get over it, and we'll be done.
• 6:16
  Speaker 1: Stop.
• 6:17
  Speaker 4: Spitting your quarterback rating stuff out at me. It was
• 6:21
  Speaker 4: impressive that Mahomes moved as well as he did last night.
• 6:23
  Speaker 4: I will give him that. Nine months removed from an
• 6:25
  Speaker 4: ACL knee reconstruction.
• 6:26
  Speaker 3: He looked stiff. They knew he was stiff.
• 6:28
  Speaker 4: But, guys, the yards produced Patrick Mahomes, even by his standards,
• 6:39
  Speaker 4: not a lot considering it was only 184. Travis Kelsey
• 6:42
  Speaker 4: had a 59-yard catch. in which he caught the ball
• 6:50
  Speaker 4: about three yards past the line of scrimmage.
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait.
• 6:52
  Speaker 4: Who's who's? And a missed tackle. Who's getting on you.
• 6:55
  Speaker 3: About Mahomes quarterback rating?
• 6:58
  Speaker 4: Everybody's talking to me about, oh, it is impressive what Mahomes.
• 7:01
  Speaker 4: Mahomes was bad yesterday.
• 7:03
  Speaker 3: Hey, Vic, who's the highest rated quarterback after week one
• 7:06
  Speaker 3: of the NFL season? Is it Minnesota's Carson Wentz? No,
• 7:11
  Speaker 3: it's not. He's actually sixth. Is it? Let me think.
• 7:16
  Speaker 3: Is it Caleb Williams? He is fifth. Is it Bryant
• 7:20
  Speaker 3: Young or Bryant?
• 7:23
  Speaker 4: Bryce Young.
• 7:23
  Speaker 3: Bryce Young. It is not.
• 7:25
  Speaker 4: No.
• 7:26
  Speaker 3: Hold on. I want to get this. Don't you try
• 7:29
  Speaker 3: to feed it to me.
• 7:30
  Speaker 4: No, I'm trying to guess it too. And I got
• 7:34
  Speaker 4: to look at the scores. Just the scores.
• 7:36
  Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence. Absolutely is. Thank you. The guy you're going
• 7:41
  Speaker 3: to see this weekend, 150.6. You know who's number two?
• 7:47
  Speaker 4: Number two would have to be.
• 7:48
  Speaker 3: Brock Purdy. Negative. Jackson Dart. Oh, yeah.
• 7:52
  Speaker 4: Dart is a really good game.
• 7:54
  Speaker 3: Number three, Josh Allen. Number four, Lamar Jackson. These guys
• 7:57
  Speaker 3: all have quarterback ratings 124 plus. Josh Allen. I mean,
• 8:01
  Speaker 3: these are... So don't give me this... Mahomes set a
• 8:04
  Speaker 3: rating of 86.1 or something. Don't give me this crap. But, hey, Nelly,
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: help me out on this. There's one thing for sure.
• 8:10
  Speaker 4: Look at this amazing throw from Mahomes. Three yards past
• 8:13
  Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage, missed tackle from Jaquan, nothing but
• 8:16
  Speaker 4: green grass in front of Travis Giles.
• 8:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened after the Jaquan missed tackle? What are
• 8:20
  Speaker 3: we watching there after he escaped?
• 8:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what happens after that?
• 8:27
  Speaker 3: That's exact. Hey, here's another thing. And maybe this is
• 8:30
  Speaker 3: my savage spirit, my barbaric nature. Maybe that's what it is. Because,
• 8:38
  Speaker 3: you know, when you look at me, you think of
• 8:40
  Speaker 3: a barbaric. Why is it that when Patrick Mahomes runs
• 8:44
  Speaker 3: the ball so happy-go-lucky, you sort of, eh? I'm going
• 8:48
  Speaker 3: to say something, and I want every football fan, if
• 8:52
  Speaker 3: you've ever played football, I want you to think about this.
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: Every time Patrick Mahomes is in the open field and
• 8:58
  Speaker 3: you're watching him run, I'm thinking to myself, somebody destroyed him.
• 9:03
  Speaker 4: Hang on, hang on, hang on. I've got to find
• 9:04
  Speaker 4: out the exact moment. Somebody destroyed him. The exact moment.
• 9:08
  Speaker 4: I've got to figure this out.
• 9:09
  Speaker 3: Alex Singleton on the left sideline. form tackle out of bounds.
• 9:15
  Speaker 5: No.
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 9:16
  Speaker 4: Nope. That's not what I'm talking about.
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: What?
• 9:19
  Speaker 3: Why is it that? Well, you've been, you've been saying
• 9:22
  Speaker 3: that for years. I've been saying it for years and
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: I'll never understand it. I'm never understand. I mean, especially
• 9:27
  Speaker 3: when he would, when, when it, in the option, those
• 9:29
  Speaker 3: little RPO and keeps it. I'm talking about nobody puts
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: him in the dirt. I'm talking about, and no point
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: in the game when he's, he's trotting around out there
• 9:37
  Speaker 3: and he, you know, he looks awkward running. He, coming
• 9:40
  Speaker 3: off a knee injury well he's got that brace on
• 9:41
  Speaker 3: which is apparently why doesn't somebody obliterate him to the
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: point where hey you ain't doing that well he got
• 9:49
  Speaker 3: to the he got to like the two yard line
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: Vic and he had two Broncos sandwich him but he
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: squeezed through into the end zone. Is he that big?
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: Am I missing something? Nope.
• 9:57
  Speaker 4: It was about seven minutes and 30 seconds left in
• 10:00
  Speaker 4: the third quarter. They ran an option with Mahomes. Mahomes
• 10:06
  Speaker 4: was dead to rights. I don't know who was in
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: front of him. But pitches it with Moshe. I'm talking
• 10:13
  Speaker 4: about defender Mahomes. Six inches. You're allowed to hit him.
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: You can smoke him. You can blow him up. Yes,
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: you can.
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: They ran an actual option, not read option. He took
• 10:24
  Speaker 4: the snap, ran to the right with Kenneth Walker, and
• 10:27
  Speaker 4: pitched it to him because he saw there was a
• 10:29
  Speaker 4: defender in front of him. Do you have the play up?
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: I don't have it up.
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: There was a play last night where one of the
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: Chiefs hit Bo hard a little late. It could have
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: been a penalty. They didn't call it. Hit him in
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: the back hard. And I can't remember what the circumstance was.
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: But as I'm watching that unravel, I'm thinking to myself,
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: why doesn't anybody do that to Mahomes? I have no idea, Vic.
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: We've been talking about it. And I've said this for years.
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: I have absolutely no clue, yeah. Is this like a, well,
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: you know, it's Patrick. Is that what this is? What
• 10:59
  Speaker 3: is it?
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: You know, Bo, when they run an option and they
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: declare from the snap, he's a runner, you have every
• 11:09
  Speaker 4: right to knock his head off.
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: Yes, you do. Every right. Hey, Brett, on two occasions
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: last night, Patrick Mahomes scrambled up the middle of the
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: field and did not slide. Did not slide. Up the middle.
• 11:25
  Speaker 4: Dove head first towards the end zone.
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: Did not slide. In those two plays, I'm sorry, dude.
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: You're a runner now, right?
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: You're a runner. Yes. Here's something else, by the way.
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: This is something I noted on their first touchdown of
• 11:39
  Speaker 4: the game. Mahomes scrambles, scores, pulled back because of a holding, right?
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: Next play, scrambles and scores again. I looked at the
• 11:51
  Speaker 4: edge rushers on those plays. Mahomes, they're in deep territory now.
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: It's goal to go from the 15, 16-yard line, whatever
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: it was.
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: Because it was a penalty. Backed them up.
• 12:04
  Speaker 4: On both plays, it was Tillman and Ellis on the
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: first play, and it was Tillman and Q Robinson on
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: the other play. Why is your All-Pro not in there
• 12:12
  Speaker 4: in an obvious pass rush situation when they're inside the
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: red zone? Where's Benito? Against the rookie undrafted left tackle
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: who's never played the position before? What's happening there?
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but one of our texters just reminded me.
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: It was the play where Bowe threw the ball, got
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: the ball knocked out of his hands, and he called
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: it an incomplete pass. Well, after the ball was released,
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: he got popped hard to the ground. Which was fine.
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: It was fair. Why am I not seeing that on
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: the other side? I don't know. Is he held in reverence?
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: What is this? Well, I mean, and he has whined
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: a lot in his past about that.
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: He whined during the game after one of the hits, too.
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, did he really?
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: I don't remember which one it was, but he was
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: looking for a flag.
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: If he's going to whine, make it worth your time.
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: Hey, Vic. I want free percussion.
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: Do I sound like the same just Look, man, here's
• 13:09
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. If he is legally allowed to be hit,
• 13:16
  Speaker 4: you take the opportunity to hit the guy who's coming
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: off an injury.
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: Vic, I mean, Brett, we've talked about that for years, though.
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: They just don't do it. They just don't do it.
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying you go off and Deacon Jones, like,
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: wear a club and beat him over the head with it,
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: or who was a... Isn't it Billy Sims who, like,
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: jumped in the air and kicked some dude in the chest? Yeah. Like,
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: don't do that. But if he's running an option and
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: you're right in front.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: Of him, hit him. I'm sure your old man has
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: probably told you, but if you were alive when Billy
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: Sims was running the football for the Lions, you would
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: have really liked him, dude.
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: Texture says, I met Billy Sims once. He was a
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: very nice guy.
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: You're kidding.
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: Texture says they would still throw the flag, Brett. Then fine!
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: Then you make the refs be weenies about their protection
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: of Mahomes.
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: I just couldn't believe it. I've never seen a quarterback
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: who is obviously not himself. He's not as fast as
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: he once was. You could tell. Just run the middle
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: of the field. And it was like, yeah, here I am. Hey, Vic,
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: one thing that Bo Nix has done remarkably well his
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: first two years, he's a pretty slippery player. Salamander, is
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: he not? He is. He's a pretty slippery salamander. Last night, dude,
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: he took a couple of big pops that he typically
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: doesn't take, including the one where he fumbled it on
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: the sideline. I mean, Snead popped him right in the
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: chest hard. And that's what we cannot... Bo got hit
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: twice as hard as Mahomes ever got hit. Yes, he did.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing, too, is we can't... I mean,
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: they've got to fix a lot of things, but I
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: don't want to see my quarterback getting popped like that
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: week in and week out. And he's done a remarkable
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: job of being slippery and avoiding that kind of thing. But, man,
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: when he gets popped, it's not good. Texter7704 says, you
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: guys make it sound so easy. He's one of the
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: most slippery guys in the league and around the pocket.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: That's why I asked the question. Are we not seeing
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: this the right way? Why is it every time? He
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: plays and runs against the Broncos. Nobody tattoos the dude.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: Maybe we are making it sound easy. Maybe that's what
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you right now, the option that I watched,
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: he had a guy right in front of him, and
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: that was fair game, and he didn't take the shot.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: And I don't get why. I just don't get it.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: Adam Schefter, who had the story before the game even
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: started about Drew Brees potentially going to play for the
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: Broncos last year after Bo Nix's injury, He'll explain more, next. Sean,
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: there was reporting before the game about last year, Drew
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: Brees and all that.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Do you have a comment on that?
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: No, I just know that I was the odd man out.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: I never heard anything about it, so it never came
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: to anything. I was only told about it later, so.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: I was just like you guys.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Sean Payton responding to the story that was told by
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: the man that joins us now on the Ramos Law Hotline.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Car accident, you need Ramos Law. Medical doctor and attorney, RamosLaw.com.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Adam Schefter joining us, first of all. Thank you for
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: joining us this morning, Adam. Secondly, take the people through who,
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: if they missed it yesterday, what you were talking about
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: on Monday Night Countdown before the Broncos game, about Drew
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Brees potentially, maybe, possibly joining the Broncos last year.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Well, what happened was, After Bo Nix fractured his ankle,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Joe Lombardi, Pete Carmichael had some discussions. They spoke to
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Drew Brees. They came up with the idea. They said, hey, Drew,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: go work out. See how you feel. See if you're interested.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Let us know. And if so, we'll, you know, go
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: talk to the appropriate people and go get it done. Well,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Drew went to work out. There was a part of him,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: like he was on the New Heights podcast and he
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: talked about an opportunity he had. He didn't specify which
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: one it was, but it was Denver. that he was
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: thinking about. And when he went to work out, his
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: wrist didn't feel right, primarily. I think his shoulder also
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: had some issues, but his wrist was bothering him. And
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: he came back to them. He's like, guys, I'd love
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: to do it. I'd want to do it. I asked
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: somebody there, like, okay, let's just say he came back
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: and said, wrist is good. I'm good to go. What
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: would have happened? We would have signed him. I said,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: would he have played? We've had a 1A and a 1B. Interesting.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: But how does, if they said we would have signed him,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: There's no way that Sean Payton didn't know about this then, right?
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Well, that's the part, Adam, and this is where you've
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: been around this game long enough and the subterfuge and
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: what things coaches say and what they believe. If you
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: acknowledge that you're going after Drew Brees, you automatically lose
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: confidence in your backup quarterback, and that sets up another.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: That's got to be the thing here, right? No, no, no, no.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: It was not a Sean thing. It was a Joel Lombardi,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Pete Carmato production. They knew Drew from their time together
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: in New Orleans. Sean didn't find out about it until
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: well into the offseason.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: How?
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: He did not know about it because they never brought
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: it to him because Drew wasn't going to do it. Now, again,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Sean truly, truly did not know until the offseason. And
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: when he first heard about it, that there were conversations,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: he's like, oh, yeah. You guys spoke to Breeze about coming. Yeah,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I was aware of that. He thought they were talking
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: about December 2021 when he was with the Saints. Breeze
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: had retired. Jameis Winston was on IR. Taysom Hill and
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Trevor Simeon, the quarterbacks in New Orleans, were on the
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: reserve COVID list. They had a Monday night game where
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: they had to play their rookie quarterback, Ian Book, against Miami.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: And there were conversations with Breeze back then about coming
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: out of retirement to play for the Saints. And he
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: thought about it, but decided against it in 2021. Now,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: now it's a situation where he thought that's what they
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: were talking about.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: So the only confusion I have, though, if they said definitively, oh,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: we would have signed him. I mean, there would have
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: had been a Sean Payton conversation after that, right?
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Or before that.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: That's just weird. Whole thing to me is just weird.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: And by the way, Adam, we've got more important fish
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: to fry here after what happened last night at Arrowhead
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Stadium in Kansas City. Yeah. Adam, everybody knew that Andy
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Reed was going to play smash mouth football, you know,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: get his quarterback up to speed a little bit, but
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: they were going to run the new weapon and they did.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: And the Broncos couldn't tackle. Are you, are you as
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: aghast as we are this morning?
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: It was a disappointing performance. I mean, I did not
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: expect Denver's defense to play like that. I did not
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: expect Denver's offense to perform like that. I just did
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: not expect the Broncos to play like that. And, you know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: the first thing that struck me is first of all,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: it's one game. Um, So it's a long season. And
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: last year, New England got smoked at home by the
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Raiders on opening day. The Raiders went on to have
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: the number one overall pick. Seattle lost and won the
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. But what struck me was they had an
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: opportunity last year to get to the Super Bowl. Those
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: are hard to come by. Those are just hard to
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: come by. You just don't know when you're going to
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: get those. And that's what I thought about right then
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: and there.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: And Can you walk us off the ledge a little
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: bit when it comes to these early season games? Because
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I'm sure Rams fans feel a lot like Broncos fans today.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Turn my frown upside down. How fluky is week one
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: in an NFL season?
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's the week that teams kind of
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: know that it's the most unpredictable. You don't know what
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: you're going to get. It does set a tone for
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: the season. I mean, but it's not fluky, Vic. I mean,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Kansas City crushed Denver last night. Not fluky. Not fluky,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: but so, you know, that's the way it is.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I guess we're in the same position, I guess, as
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Chargers fans. They got knocked around by the Cardinals in
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: their own building. It's just, I don't know, Adam. It
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: just feels, it doesn't feel right because the things that
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: they were supposed to improve upon were, false starts and
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: running the ball more and blah, blah, blah. And it
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: quicker plays into the, into the huddle. They seem to
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: regress last night and their total offensive output is the
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: lowest since Sean Payton has been the head coach of
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos. And that's saying something, man, even, even
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: worse than the, the snow storm last day of C
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: title game.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: It was, it was a disappointing performance. Again, you don't
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: expect a running back to run the ball down your
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: throat like that. And, I just think this is going
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: to be interesting because Davis Webb is an ascending coach
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: in this league, but there's an art to calling a game.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: And Sean Payne's one of the great play calls of
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: all time. So he's not doing that. And Davis Webb
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: is learning on the run. So, you know, this is
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: a team that's good enough to contend with anybody. And
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: now Davis Webb is going to be calling plays. It's
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: just an interesting situation. And let's see how it plays out. Like,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: If you do something really well, like if you're a
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: chef and you own a restaurant, you say, I'm going
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: to run the front of the house and I'm not
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: going to cook at all?
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Hold on. We got, you know.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's he going to do? Post?
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Well, Adam, from some other news from over the weekend,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: this is something that we were discussing that I don't
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: know how this works. So Miles Garrett goes on IR.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: He said after the game that he's dealing with some
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: knee stuff. Is that something that happened late in camp
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: and he thought he could play through? Did he know
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: this prior to that? And if he did, why didn't
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: he have the surgery earlier? Like, what went into making
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: this decision now?
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I think he had some issues with it then, last year.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I think it flared up during the summer. The Rams
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: held him out, clearly, for multiple weeks from camp, thinking
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: that they'd just be able to rest it and that
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: when the season started, it would feel better. But it didn't.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: And when it didn't and he played in the game
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: and it got a little worse, he got looked at
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: and they decided that that was the route to go.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: The best thing to do to to have the operation
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: to try to feel better. Like it just didn't respond
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: the way that he would want it.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Will this change the availability of the big fella Aaron Donald?
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Will that expedite his return?
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: You know, I always thought, Vic, that he was going
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: to be playing a Monday night anyway against the Giants.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I thought that he was close last week. So, you know,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: the fact that Garrett's not going to be out there,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I think he was close anyway. Could
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: it be a final nudge? Maybe. You know, they need him. So, but,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: you know, Aaron Donald, the idea was to go play
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: with Myles Garrett. Now he's not going to play with
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: him forever. Four plus weeks.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Well, I keep looking at the first six weeks of
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: the season for the Broncos, Adam, and they got the
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Jags coming in this weekend. And then it'll be the Rams. And,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: you know, they're a prideful team. We're lucking out because
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Garrett isn't going to be on the field for the
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Rams against the Broncos. But, you know, I just, to nowadays,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I can't, get over the fact that you can't get
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: behind to start the year. You just can't. Because if
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: you get behind, like you said, maybe it's a tone-setting game.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: If you start to get behind and you're 2-3 or
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: 2-4 through 6, golly, that's just such a difficult makeup.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, they said it last night. Denver's schedule is
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: a gauntlet here. I mean, it is a gauntlet, right?
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Like Jacksonville at home. He's an underrated team. Denver played
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville last year, right?
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: And got blown out.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Smoked.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Worst game of the year. 34-20. That was in Denver, too,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: wasn't it? Sure was. Remember Robinson caught like 150 passes
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: in one game?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Who caught 50 passes?
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: No, no. I'm exaggerating. Parker Robinson, is that his name?
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Parker Washington.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Washington. Yeah. He was all over the place. He was unstoppable.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I mean, I'm not telling you anything you
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: don't know, but Jacksonville at home, the Rams at home,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: at the 49ers, at the Chargers, Seattle, at Arizona is
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: not easy. Home for KC, like, ooh, that's, I mean,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: there's no easy games, but boy, there's some tough matchups
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: One last thing for you, Adam.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Over the weekend.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: this controversial call in the new Orleans, Detroit game. You
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: talked to a lot of smart people on this. Is
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: this going to be something that becomes a problem for
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: the NFL? Cause it feels like everybody within football is like,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: I've been watching forever. I've never seen that call made.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: What was your response?
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: My response is I'm always amazed at how often I've
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: watched a sport and how there's always something that emerges
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: that I never knew it rule existed. You know, I had,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I had one front office executive text me about it
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: on Sunday and, and, He said to me, he goes,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: feels like this year is already the year of, is
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: it a pass or a fumble? Like catches or a throw.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: The Jackson Dart play was ruled a fumble, caught by Lyman,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: but sure looked like his arm was going forward with
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: a forward pass.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: It's all about intention. And we made fun of that, Adam,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: by saying, well, I intended to throw it down the
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: field and I didn't intend to throw a pick. I mean,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: just how do you get into a guy's head and
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: intention and all this kind of thing? It's just there's
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: so many gray areas.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: The weird thing is even if you rule his arm
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: going forward, the ball went 10 yards backwards. It's like
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: I've always thought.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: That was a fumble. Silly. Yeah.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I just, I just, honestly, like I'm not a big
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: rules guy, but I'm always amazed. Like something comes up, like,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: what is the ruling? Oh, there's a rule. Like, I
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: didn't know that.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Or we didn't know that.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Like we watch this sport all the time. All of
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: us do. And there are things that come up. You're like, man,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: no idea about that.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: It's Adam Schefter joins us every single week. Always appreciate it, Adam.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Thank you guys.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Have a great week.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Thanks buddy.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: So, you know, what's funny is that, in watching the
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: game last night. And again, with Adam who jumped on
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Monday night countdown before this, you know, he just relayed
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: the story again about, uh, drew breeze and the chance
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: of him joining the roster last year. And when he said,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: when he said, well, what happens if his wrist wasn't
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: hurting and he looked fine, Adam goes, they told me
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: we would have signed him. And I'm like, Well, there's
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: a second conversation that needs to happen if Sean Payton
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: was unaware of this, which is Drew Brees just said
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: he'd be willing to join the team should we sign.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Him, right? Something spells there because is it just coincidence
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: that those two coaches who went on without Sean Payton's
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: knowledge were suddenly let go after the season?
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing I was saying earlier, Vic, was
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: one of two things is going on here.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: One.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Sean Payton was truly unaware that these guys were doing this,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: I don't want to say behind his back, but kind
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: of behind his back, right? Without his knowledge in recruiting
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: a player to play the most important position on the
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: field in the biggest game of the year. And so
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Sean said, I don't like that at all. I'm the
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: guy in charge. See you later. Or Sean was aware
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: the whole time and is just lying I just don't
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: know how you make that phone call without alerting Sean Payton.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Right. Or George Payton.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Or Peyton Manning.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how a Lombardi and a
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Carmichael would reach out to Drew Brees without without getting
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: permission first? Because if he says, I'm good to go,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: you say, oh, by the way, George, Sean, we got
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: a hold of Drew, and he's been working out, and
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: you want to sign him for this week? What do
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: you want to do?
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Let's think about this for a second, just to do
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: an extreme example. Let's say that George Payton made a
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: phone call to the Bills and said, I'll offer you
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Bo Nix for Josh Allen straight up. Would never happen, obviously,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: but just walk with me. We'll do it straight up.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: And the Bills say yes. Does George Payton say, okay,
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: deal's done? Or does he go, I'll call you right back.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Go to Sean Payton and say.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Even with a no-brainer deal that everybody would do, you
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: still have to alert your head coach on a possibility
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: of something happening before it actually happens.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Listen, I mean, we all know Sean Payton's hands, his
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: fingerprints are on every facet of this organization. Nothing happens
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: without his knowledge, okay? Nothing happens without his knowledge. Yeah.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: You're not sending crews out looking, shopping. I mean, come on.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Whatever.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: They can say whatever they want. I did misspeak during
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: that interview. You could say this for a fact checker.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Our texter pointed this out. Good catch, texter. Five, three, four, eight.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: I asked Adam. I said, it'd make us feel good, right?
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: I said, walk us off the ledge. Texter says, it's
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: talk us off the ledge. Because if I walked you
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: off the ledge, you would be off the ledge.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: That's more like a pirate making somebody walk the plank.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Get a little sword behind you saying, if you back up,
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: this is going to go in you. You better jump off. Adam,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: tell us how we're going to die, please.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: You can walk back from the precipice. You can talk
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: someone off a ledge. You don't walk somebody off a ledge.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: What was the thing that happened today? Where you asked
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Vic a question and he wanted specifics?
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: What did you say to him? I said, who's the
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: quarterback in the NFL with the highest passer rating? Is
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: that what it was? No, no, no, no. What was it?
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: You said something like, it was like today? Oh, yeah.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: What floor are you on? Is that the most yards?
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: What's the name?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: In a game?
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Somebody on the text line says, Justin, who cares about
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: the Breeze stuff? It's last year. Relax. Well, let me
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: tell you why it matters. It matters because if they
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: weren't confident in their backup last year that they wanted
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: to go grab a 47-year-old who hadn't played in five years,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: what do you think they are now?
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: Well, that's what I'm saying. If this story is true,
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: if it's true, why is Jared Stidham on this roster
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: at all? If you have so little faith that you're like,
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: I will put my trust in a 47-year-old who hasn't
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: played in five years over this guy, then what's the
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: use of me on the roster entirely? That's why I
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: think it matters. And plus, if it is true, now
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: that becomes a problem between Sean Payton and his backup quarterback.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Do you want me to raise a very petty question
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: at this point?
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, please.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: A very petty question. Please. Hold on. Throw my shoe
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: at this 10-year-old. Yeah. That's Colin, right?
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: It's Colin.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Hey, Colin. I've never met you. We've got Connors and
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Collins and Keefers and Katie's. Hey, here's the question. This morning,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: you got the contract. Yeah. Would you offer Bo 50
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: per this morning? Told you, this is why you wait.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Let's wait.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Well, listen, it's one game game. It's not going to
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: change my mind on this.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: It's one game. I get it. I'm just saying, it's amazing.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at the text line. Boy, the amount of
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: angst and backlash.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Well, it's the first game.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: People can turn on their quarterback pretty darn quickly.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: It was the first game, and literally we said, give
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: me a positive from last night. And Vic goes, perspective.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: It's a long season.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: So, 3-0-3.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: 5-0-4-0-9-2-5 back after this.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I'd have got a positive here.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: I actually do have one positive. I was thinking about it.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: I have one.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: I gave you the one and only positive. The one
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: and only positive is that it's game one.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: No, no. Your positive, Vic, was, guys, life goes on.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: It's just sports.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Pretty much. Here's the story, though. I was reading Ed
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: McCaffrey tweet. Look, it's just one game. That's the team
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: you're probably going to battle down to the wire, though.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: To win the AFC West. And if you're going to
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: have a stinker, have it be game number one and
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: have a wake-up call happen right away.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: That's what Vick said.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: I know. You don't want this wake-up call sometime in
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: early November.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: You said you had a positive. You just repeated Vick's.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: You basically took what I've said all morning, regurgitated it.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: You're a fraud.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: Plagiarism.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: You're cheating again.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: You plagiarized.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: I'm convinced they're going to have a much, much better
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: day against Jacksonville on Sunday. So what's your positive? You
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: just plagiarized Vic. What's your positive? Without taking my work. Really?
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: You're going to go into next week totally healthy. Completely healthy.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: You're going to have a much better game. But, but, but.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: He copied your paper. He just copied it.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: But. And I got a C.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: And I thought your paper was stupid to start with.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: But. If they don't.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: You copied the dumb kid?
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: If.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: If. If Jacksonville comes in here like they did last
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: season and they beat you up.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: You can't start this.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: We're talking. We're talking.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: The team, the one game in which the one game
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: last year in which you got blown out at load
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: blowed was Jacksonville. So you're, you're following up a horrendous
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Monday night on a short week. Against a team that
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: blowed you out, right? Blowed. That's a positive. That's a positive.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: That's a positive. I actually do have one. It's going
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: to be weird to say. It's going to be super specific.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Pass coverage was really good. They had sticky coverage last night.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: It was pretty good.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: If they could tackle, that would have really come in handy.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: The Kelsey play that went for, what, 50 yards? 60.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: That was after a missed tackle.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: That was a three-yard pass, missed tackle that went for
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: another 57. Yes. Like, I thought defensively in pass coverage,
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: they were really good. There was nobody open.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: They mostly, as we were looking back at those highlights, Brett...
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: They mostly got to their marks pretty timely. I mean,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: they mostly got there. But once they got there, Vic,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: it was Keystone frigging cops. I thought the underuse of
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Jalen Waddell was very disappointing. And when I say underuse,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: they did throw him a first down, and it was
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: a perfect pass by Bowe. You know, as much as
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: we beat up on Bowe, that pass was right on
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: the money. Waddell dropped it. And that could have kept
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: that drive alive.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: 28 pass attempts in that game. Sutton and Waddle combined
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: for eight targets.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Targets. That's crazy.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Three catches in 13 yards.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: I'm looking back.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: That cannot happen.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: I'm looking back, Vic, to what you said. You're right.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Parker Washington had himself a hell of a day. He
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: was open every time. And you know what he did
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: in that game that I remember? He averaged 24.2 yards
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: per catch. Bronco fans.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Bronco fans. Bro. Bronco fans, hold on a second. Bro.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: I want you to go back and watch film of
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: that game because I know you have it handy. Stop
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: what you're doing. Stop driving. Pull over. Watch film of
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: the Broncos-Jacksonville game right now. Right now. Do you remember
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: what happened in that game? Do you remember why Parker
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Washington got all those yards? Yards after contact. He wiggled
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: his way out of every tackle. It was one of
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: the most un... I remember watching receivers do it before,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: but that day, he was unstoppable after contact. Who's the
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: starting running back for the Jags? Tootin? Michelle Tootin? Michelle Tootin.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Did you say Cooter?
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: Huh?
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: What?
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: What did you.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: What?
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: He said Tootin.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Tootin. Tootin.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Bashal.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Bashal Tootin. You just say I had sex. It's a
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: man's name.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: It's a man's name.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: I got to keep reminding myself that ATN's gone. By
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: the way. That he's not even there anymore.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Very famous offensive coordinator in the NFL years ago.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Jim Bob Cooter.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Jim Bob Cooter.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. He was here.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: Sounds like he's... A side character in Dukes of Hazzard.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, also, I was just going to say awesome. You
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: take the.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: General lead down there to Jim Bob Cooter's house?
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: No, just Cooters. But no, awesome mechanic and awesome tow
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: truck driver in Dukes of Hazzard, Cooter. Oh, man, that
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: just hit me. Last night was the worst tackling game
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I remember by the Broncos. Last year, it was that
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville game, the worst tackling game. And both resulted in blowouts. Interesting.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: I just say one of the reasons why I'm still.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: This is like a double indictment, okay? It proves how
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: bad the Broncos were last night. But when I tell
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: you the Broncos had a game in which it was
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: a similar number of missed tackles, the last time they
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: did that, the opposing team scored 70. 70 points. Yeah.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: So the positive is they only got to 31?
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: No, I'm just looking at the Chiefs like, how did
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: they not?
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Because I'll tell you why. Because Mahomes wasn't on his
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: A game. Because Mahomes is very pedestrian. If Mahomes had
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: some receivers to work with and was just feeling it,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: it would have been even worse. They could not tackle
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: the ball carrier. And the yards, 63% of all yards
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: generated by the Chiefs last night came after contact. That's
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: all you need to know. That number has to be.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: That has to come down to 10%. What do you
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: call that, Brett? 63%. You should think.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Yak is yards after catch, but I like using it
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: for this anyway.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Well, because not everything's a catch. Yards after contact.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: What's a different thing?
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: I understand, but this stat that I'm giving you, 279
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: yards were surrendered after contact. Initial contact.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: Two things real quick. Number one, on that run, Travis Kelsey, his...
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Only big play of the game. So he catches it
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: three yards past the line of scrimmage. I showed most
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: of the video. Jaquan McMillan is there, jumps at his ankles,
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: doesn't make the tackle, and then there is like 40
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: yards of open space in front of him. My God,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: was he moving slow.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey? Dude, he had a piano on his back.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: A baby grand piano.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: It reminded me when Jason went back to the Cowboys
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: after the year that he did Monday Night Football, and
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: I watched him run. I was like, does everything hurt you?
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Because it looks like everything hurts.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Does he still have some of that wedding cake?
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: That explains Tom Cruise in attendance. Who is the best
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: running actor of all time? Like, in running scenes. Who
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: looks fast? Tom Cruise looks fast. Like, when he runs.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Think about every scene Tom Cruise has ever been in
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: when he's running.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be honest with you. Pissed me off
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: right from the start when they showed Tom Cruise there.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: I hated it. I hated it. Maybe he's Kelsey's running
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: coach right now. Nobody looks better running. How old is he? Like, 80?
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: I don't even know. Tom Cruise, I think, is like 60. Okay. 64?
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: I guarantee that. He would wipe you in a run race.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. You know what?
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: I'd love to ask both Taylor Swift and Tom Cruise
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: if I had them in a room. Because I guess
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: they said that they're friends. Taylor Swift, the pop singer
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: in her 30s, and Tom Cruise, the actor in his 60s,
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: are friends.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, got it.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: I want them both in a room, and I just
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: want to ask them one question. What do you think
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: the price of eggs are? That's... They have no idea.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: No clue.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: No idea how much that costs.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: How much is a loaf of bread? No idea.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, do you guys know how much the price
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: of gasoline is hurting my bank account right now? Are
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: you aware of this at all?
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: What does that have to do with Tom Cruise's breakaway speed? Nothing.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: I'm just bothered by Tom Cruise.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Like, in Mission Impossible, when he gets going. Oh, yeah.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: He gets going. Oh, dude, he was flying.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: What's the movie he's doing again? What is it?
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Days of Thunder Part II. Ugh. Digger.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: What?
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: What?
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: That's the name of the movie that he's in.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: No, no, I was thinking of Days of Thunder, the
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: second one that he's doing, the sequel thing to it.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: What is Digger?
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: What is that?
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: Digger?
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Hardly know. I don't know. Forget about it. Okay, gotcha.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: You're too young. Did you ever watch All the Right
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Moves with Tom Cruise? I have not seen that one.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: That's one of his first movies. And Pipe. No. And Pipe.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: He played a running back for a Pittsburgh. Well, not Pittsburgh.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: He was a Western Pennsylvania small school. His coach was
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: the guy who played coach on TV. What's his name?
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: I know you're talking about it. What's his name? I
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: can't remember his name, though. But that's... Craig T.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: Nelson.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Neil Sadaka? Craig T. Nelson. That's when he became a
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: hell of a runner. But he was undersized DB, okay?
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: And remember... Okay, I'm... And so his coach got the
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: job at Pauly out in California, and they patched things up,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: and he took him to California to Pauly.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: They said he's 5'7. That's a Hollywood listing, if I've
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: ever seen one.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, he's small. I did one of those junkets
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: with Cruz before you. He's smaller than I am. Yeah.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you this, though. only one person in that
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: stadium runs better than he did last time. That's Kenneth Walker.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: That's true. I was going to say that he's getting
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: a little bit of Bon Jovi stuff going on where
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: he's looking a little bit like, um, like an old
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: man who has, you're seeing the work, you're seeing.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: The work now. Well, a lot of pressure in that
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: field and pipe, the fictional company town, high school football
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: team in Western Pennsylvania and pipe, uh.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Texture says, hey, Tom Cruise, how much are the price
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: of eggs? Vic's follow-up. From chickens? Fact checker, please, Nelly.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Nelly monitors the mistakes in today's Fact Checker. Fact Checker.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Presented by Backus & Shanker.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Serious lawyers for the seriously injured.
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: Got a couple of these today, and that was a
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: perfect segue into If there's one thing that this show
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: is going to do, it's going to require specificity from
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: each other. We had another example earlier today.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: 31 rushes last night for Kansas City, as opposed to
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: 27 passes. When was the last time the Denver Broncos
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: ran the ball more than they passed it? In a game?
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: That's what it was. That's what it was. I've seen
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: a lot of practices.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: And this is actually a double fact checker, actually, because
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: not only was it hilarious that Vic had to specify
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: in a game.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: In a game?
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: But the answer, Mosier asked that question like this has
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: been years. It was literally the last week of the
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: regular season last year.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: So that's a twofer. But how often does it happen
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: with the Broncos?
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: No, you're right.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Twice a year, maybe.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: And then we also have a clip here of. It
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: just demonstrates how bad last night's game was for the Broncos.
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: It got so bad that Vic actually asked Adam Schefter
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: to help him end it all.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Hey, can you walk us off the ledge a little
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: bit when it comes to these? Excuse me, Adam.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: Don't talk us off. Can you kill us, please?
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Just kill us. Don't talk us off. Walk us off
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: the ledge.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: Well, there is a whole bunch more coming here.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Dude, I know we're going to start looking forward to
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: the Jags. I get that. Can I leave the show
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: with this? The next time the old fella. Tells you
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: guys to be forewarned about a game, that this game
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: is scary. Be nervous about this game. Will you listen
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: to me next time?
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I will assume the next time you say that,
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: the Broncos will miss 30 missed tackles.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Will you listen to the old man next time? And
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: not just slough it off. Not just slough it off.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: Yes, I will assume it will be the worst defensive
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: performance the Broncos have put on in years. iTunes, Spotify, Mojo, Lombardi,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: and Kane. Have as much as you can. Wonderful Tuesday.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: And we'll talk to you tomorrow.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Love you. See you. 31 rushes last night for Kansas City,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: as opposed to 27 passes. When was the last time
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos ran the ball more than they passed it?
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: In a game?