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Ian Furness 10/8 H2: Steve Palazzolo, the Hilinskis and the Daily Power Play. · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: Ian Furness as we roll on today into the one
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  Speaker 3: Yes, indeed.
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  Speaker 2: things NFL. How are you, my friend?
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  Speaker 3: Doing great. Thanks for having me as always.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I know you're a busy guy. You're
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  Speaker 3: I'm Ian.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Ashley. How are you?
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  Speaker 1: Hi.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on today? How are things? God, me and
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  Speaker 2: a knucklehead sometimes. Steve, let's first talk about the big thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to bury the lead. We'll get right
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  Speaker 2: to the Seahawks. Seahawks 49ers this week. Let's get your thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: I had Derek Hall on yesterday. He kind of downplayed, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's just another game type of thing. Mike McDowell did
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  Speaker 2: the same. Cooper Cup, the wily veteran kind of said, no,
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  Speaker 2: this is a bigger deal. This is a big deal
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  Speaker 2: coming up. How are you looking at this game in
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  Speaker 2: the NFC West this weekend?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think it's huge. I think it's a great game.
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  Speaker 4: It's a massive game, and we should all treat it
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  Speaker 4: as such. So the biggest storyline here is this 49ers
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  Speaker 4: offense has been incredible pretty much since Brock Purdy.
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  Speaker 3: Brock Purdy's had a great career.
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  Speaker 4: And when you start to stack up Brock Purdy statistically,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we're getting into all-time passer rating leader and
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  Speaker 4: yards per attempt. The production has been incredible for Brock Purdy.
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  Speaker 4: And I think there's reasons for that, that are Brock
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  Speaker 4: Purdy related. And there's reasons that are Kyle Shanahan related,
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  Speaker 4: but the most interesting thing is, you know, Mack Jones
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  Speaker 4: took over last year because of Brock Purdy's injury and
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  Speaker 4: the offense was cool.
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  Speaker 3: It was good.
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  Speaker 4: It was great, but it was really good when Brock
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  Speaker 4: Purdy got back from injury, except, uh, When he's run
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  Speaker 4: into Mike McDonald in Seattle, I mean, every, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we go, we go back to Christmas night, 2023 49ers Ravens.
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  Speaker 4: And it's Mike McDonald's defense that forces four interceptions on
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  Speaker 4: Brock Purdy for an offense that was cooking that year, the,
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  Speaker 4: the Niners offense. So now we've got this historical trend of,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Shanahan's offense always has success and you could
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  Speaker 4: have Jimmy Garoppolo, uh, you know, put up big numbers
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  Speaker 4: and go to super bowls. You have Brock Purdy putting
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  Speaker 4: up big numbers and going to super bowls, but when
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  Speaker 4: they run into Mike McDonald's defense, they struggle. And so
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  Speaker 4: that's the biggest story for me. They looked awful last year.
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  Speaker 4: Great offense looked awful last year against Seattle in those
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  Speaker 4: two final games, including the playoff game. So that's the
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  Speaker 4: big question. Can Brock Purdy and Kyle Shanahan win?
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  Speaker 3: Have some answers for McDonald's defense this week.
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  Speaker 2: Regular season, this is what is happening. Overall, Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 2: is 3-2 against Kyle Shanahan as a head coach. Includes
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  Speaker 2: the playoff win that Steve mentioned last year when the
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  Speaker 2: 49er offense disappeared. In the regular season games... It bears mentioning,
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  Speaker 2: the first game ever between Shanahan and McDonald, McDonald's first year,
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  Speaker 2: they put up 36 to the 49ers over the CX, 36-24.
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  Speaker 2: Since then, these are the points for the 49ers, 17-3,
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  Speaker 2: and then next to nothing in the playoffs. The cheat
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  Speaker 2: code has been figured out. It's wild, isn't it, Steve?
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  Speaker 2: You look around the league, McVay seems to have figured
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  Speaker 2: out the McDonald defense, but Shanahan has not. Now, the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks have figured out the Rams in terms of defensively.
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  Speaker 2: It's a three-headed monster in this NFC West, and I
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  Speaker 2: always talk about it. I don't know how you and
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  Speaker 2: Sam on the podcast, the guys at 3013, look at it.
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  Speaker 2: We always talk about who are the top coaches right
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  Speaker 2: now in the NFL. Well, if you're making a top
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  Speaker 2: five list, three of the five are probably in this division,
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  Speaker 2: the NFC West.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think they all have to be.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the success that they've had, and it is
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  Speaker 4: really interesting because just as you mentioned and laid out,
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  Speaker 4: there are just certain matchups that are favorable and certain
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  Speaker 4: matchups that are not, right? There are just certain teams
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  Speaker 4: have figured out others or whatever it may be. So
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  Speaker 4: this particular matchup will be a big one, right? Can
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  Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan figure out Mike McDonald for pretty much the
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  Speaker 4: first time, I would say, consistently?
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  Speaker 3: So that's the starting point.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, the coaches, Kyle Shanahan, I think has done
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  Speaker 4: a great job and every, every coach takes criticism. If
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  Speaker 4: they haven't won a super bowl, Kyle Shanahan's would be, oh, well,
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  Speaker 4: you know, 28 to three, he's the OC for the
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  Speaker 4: Falcons and he's in two super bowls with the Niners
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  Speaker 4: and maybe has a few play calls or decisions that
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  Speaker 4: he wants back. But the floor for Kyle Shanahan has
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  Speaker 4: been so high, pretty much every single season that he's
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  Speaker 4: had his starting quarterback uninjured almost every season.
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  Speaker 3: He's been in the NFC championship.
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  Speaker 4: As long as he has a healthy starting quarterback going
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  Speaker 4: back to Jimmy Garoppolo, when they had injuries, it was difficult,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you can't do it every year, but it's,
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  Speaker 4: it's pretty close. And so that like the floor is
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  Speaker 4: incredible for Shanahan. The offense has been consistently good. And
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  Speaker 4: I think now he's done a good job. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you bring back Raheem Morris running the defense and everything.
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  Speaker 4: He's done a good job of having much like Sean McVay,
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  Speaker 4: different defensive coordinators and staying competitive on that side of
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  Speaker 4: the ball, which I think is a challenge, you know,
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  Speaker 4: different from Seattle where, Mike McDonald might have to be,
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  Speaker 4: you know, going through different offensive coordinators year over year
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  Speaker 4: and yell, his defense will remain consistent. Right. So it's
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  Speaker 4: just a little different style, but Kyle's done a really
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  Speaker 4: good job keeping the offense ahead of the game for
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  Speaker 4: the most part. And then, you know, revolving door of
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  Speaker 4: defensive coordinators, keeping the defense competitive.
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  Speaker 2: I just, it's, it's a remarkable, so 113 pass attempts
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  Speaker 2: for Brock Purdy. And there's probably a couple of scrambles
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  Speaker 2: in there. So the dropbacks are, I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: they would be in the 125-something range, but for him
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  Speaker 2: not to be sacked, you mentioned kind of historical. No
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  Speaker 2: sacks through the first four, and I mean, all those dropbacks,
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  Speaker 2: what are they doing? How are they able to do that?
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  Speaker 2: Because I don't care how elusive you are, how quick
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  Speaker 2: you release it, that's a remarkable stat right.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Steve.
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  Speaker 4: I think if you go all the way back to
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  Speaker 4: week one, the Australia game against the Rams, and I
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  Speaker 4: know the Rams kind of laid an egg and didn't
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  Speaker 4: look good that particular week, but you go back and
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  Speaker 4: you watch the play calling. There's like an art and
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  Speaker 4: a flow to Kyle Shanahan's offenses. And if you were
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  Speaker 4: going up against a Rams team that didn't have Aaron Donald,
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  Speaker 4: but they had Miles Garrett and you're trying to slow
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  Speaker 4: down the pass rush, this is what they do so well.
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  Speaker 4: Watch the defensive ends against a Shanahan team every single week.
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  Speaker 4: And it feels like they're on a string. The linebackers
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  Speaker 4: are on a string as well. They never do the
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  Speaker 4: same thing twice. So as soon as you get that,
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  Speaker 4: straight shot at the quarterback, they're going to throw a
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  Speaker 4: screen behind you, or they're going to run misdirection, or
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  Speaker 4: they're going to have somebody completely different block you on
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  Speaker 4: the backside on a run play. It could be the
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  Speaker 4: tight end. It could be the fullback. It could be
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  Speaker 4: the tight end in motion. Fullback in motion could be
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  Speaker 4: a wide receiver. So the defensive ends, they're unable to
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  Speaker 4: get upfield and really attack. because so much of the
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  Speaker 4: offense is like, how do you make the defensive ends wrong?
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  Speaker 4: How do you make them wrong in the run game
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  Speaker 4: and in the pass game? As soon as they get
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  Speaker 4: a good rush, you're throwing a screen behind them and
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  Speaker 4: you're taking advantage of their over-aggressiveness.
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  Speaker 3: So that's the first thing.
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  Speaker 4: And then I think just sack avoidance overall is usually
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  Speaker 4: the quarterback getting rid of the ball. And that's what
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  Speaker 4: Brock Purdy does really well. Makes quick decisions, gets rid
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  Speaker 4: of it. And he's incredibly elusive. I've mentioned on my
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  Speaker 4: show before, I hate making outlandish comparisons because When people say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: this reminds me of this Hall of Famer or that
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  Speaker 4: Hall of Famer. But I think Brock Purdy has a
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  Speaker 4: spatial awareness that is very Mahomesian. Mahomesian spatial awareness for
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  Speaker 4: Brock Purdy. I think he's very good as a scrambler.
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  Speaker 4: He's very good if you see him in the open field.
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  Speaker 4: Subtle pump fakes to get guys moving and to create
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  Speaker 4: a few extra yards. He's very good for a guy
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  Speaker 4: that doesn't have a cannon for an arm. He's very
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  Speaker 4: good at throwing back across his body. Because I think
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  Speaker 4: he knows how to take the calculated risk and he
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  Speaker 4: has the spatial awareness to know when to take that shot.
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  Speaker 4: So I think Brock Purdy doesn't get enough credit. I
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  Speaker 4: go back and forth. I think he's he's outstanding. and
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  Speaker 4: he's also elevated by Kyle Shanahan's offense, which has two
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  Speaker 4: decades of success.
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  Speaker 3: So I think you add.
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  Speaker 4: That all up and it's just this efficient, well-run offense.
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  Speaker 4: And it's the best quarterback that Kyle Shanahan has had
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  Speaker 4: since Matt Ryan back in 2015 and 16. And Matt
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  Speaker 4: Ryan had nine yards per attempt and won the MVP
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  Speaker 4: in 2016.
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  Speaker 3: They went to the super bowl. So, That's where I
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  Speaker 3: think Purdy is.
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  Speaker 4: So I think Purdy is a big part of it
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  Speaker 4: as well as the way they run that scheme to
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  Speaker 4: protect the quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: these game days. What are you seeing right now from
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  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, the Seahawk offense? I know there's running back
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  Speaker 2: issues and injuries and so forth, but what are you
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  Speaker 2: seeing from those guys?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, first off.
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  Speaker 4: You've got the running back issues, but I did really
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  Speaker 4: love how they used Rashid Shaheed on a few plays
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  Speaker 4: last week as a running back. I love that creativity, obviously,
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  Speaker 4: to get the long touchdown from him. I thought last
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  Speaker 4: week was just a lack of consistency, you know, down
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  Speaker 4: to down. I think the Chargers defense has started to
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  Speaker 4: find their footing, so they deserve some credit as well.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't thrown much credit the Chargers way this season
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  Speaker 4: at all, but they've done some better stuff these last
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  Speaker 4: couple of weeks, you know, against Buffalo and Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: And again, I thought two weeks ago, it was perfectly
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  Speaker 3: fine against Washington.
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  Speaker 4: It was like a weird pick six where it's great
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  Speaker 4: disguise and the backup linebacker, you know, kind of like
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  Speaker 4: jumps out of nowhere and picks it off.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's a tough play.
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  Speaker 4: I thought the offense moved the ball extremely well two
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  Speaker 4: weeks ago against Washington. And then last week, you know,
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  Speaker 4: maybe you lose a little bit of rhythm when you're up,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's 27 to nine.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you're up a lot. You're supposed to win
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  Speaker 3: this game.
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  Speaker 4: You're, you know, touchdown plus favorites and they're unable to
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  Speaker 4: just run the clock and control the ball as much
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  Speaker 4: as they would like to. So I think, I think
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  Speaker 4: overall they're fine. I think there's some great creativity in there.
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  Speaker 4: I liked the touchdown to Tori Horton where you have the,
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  Speaker 4: the called run play and the little backside slants there.
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  Speaker 4: And you're doing it with, you know, a backup receiver
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  Speaker 4: rather than a JSN. I think JSN still uncoverable and off.
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  Speaker 3: Awesome. So I think, I think that's going to be the,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they're, they're going to be fine.
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  Speaker 4: Sam Darnold as, as excellent as he has been the
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  Speaker 4: last three years across Minnesota and Seattle is, Still turnovers
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  Speaker 4: pop up, right?
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  Speaker 3: He'll force a few.
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  Speaker 4: More passes into coverage than most. It's not exactly like
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  Speaker 4: Jameis back in the day with the Bucs where I
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  Speaker 4: would always defend Jameis and say, look, there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of turnovers, but there's a lot of value-add plays there too.
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  Speaker 4: He's not just a turnover machine. He's pushing the ball
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  Speaker 4: down the field and creating big plays. Darnold's not at
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  Speaker 4: that extreme level of turnovers with Jameis, but you could
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  Speaker 4: easily say, look, Sam Darnold's a value-add type of player.
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  Speaker 4: He's going to push the ball down the field. He's
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  Speaker 4: going to create big play opportunities. He's going to get
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  Speaker 4: the ball to JSN. But there are going to be
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  Speaker 4: some bad decisions in there, some turnovers. And to Darnold's credit,
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  Speaker 4: I think he's had the amnesia that I was talking
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  Speaker 4: about that quarterbacks need to forget the bad plays and
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  Speaker 4: to bounce back. And I think he's been good with that.
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  Speaker 4: So you get some cluster turnovers here and there from Darnold.
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  Speaker 4: But I think overall, it's fine. And they have the
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  Speaker 4: weapons to get the ball down the field as long
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  Speaker 4: as they They will need that consistent run game, though.
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  Speaker 4: They'll need that to be consistent because they're planning on
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  Speaker 4: leading a lot of games, and that is one thing
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  Speaker 4: that they'll have to tidy up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they added that Robert Henry Jr. from the Commander's
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  Speaker 2: Practice Squad. We'll see what he's all about this week.
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  Speaker 2: He's on the 53, man, for the next three weeks
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  Speaker 2: at least while they wait for Charbonnet and Price to
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  Speaker 2: get healthy.
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  Speaker 4: I was going to say, ironically, a healthy Joe Mixon
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  Speaker 4: would have been perfect. The last time he was healthy,
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  Speaker 4: he was an excellent part of the Houston Texans run game.
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  Speaker 4: He gets your four to five when it's there. He
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  Speaker 4: keeps you on schedule. He would have been excellent if
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  Speaker 4: he was healthy, but unfortunately it didn't work out. It
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  Speaker 2: the season that we're going to have a Thursday night
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  Speaker 2: football game, Buccaneers-Cowboys, and the teams are going to be
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  Speaker 4: I didn't think the Bucs were going to be this
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  Speaker 4: bad heading into the season. I also thought that the Cowboys'
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  Speaker 4: defense would be better and improved with Christian Parker, new
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  Speaker 4: defensive coordinator, some personnel changes. I still think they have potential,
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: but they have given up a lot of points, a
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: lot of yards again this year after they were awful
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: last year. So Cowboys' defense needs to improve. The Bucs
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: just look like a mess as an organization. Plus they
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: have Jalen Daniels started last week and starting tonight, the
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: undrafted rookie free agent out of Kansas. He did some
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: nice things last week, but you're still talking about an
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: undrafted rookie free agent. It's really tough to win with
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: an inexperienced player like that. But he earned the backup
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: job in preseason. Again, he did some nice things. He's
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: really mobile. A couple bad decisions last week. Both ended
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: in interceptions. But you're also talking about a team. They
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: struggled with Baker Mayfield under center, who was a veteran
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: and had a lot of success. So the Bucs, they're reeling.
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: They've been awful defensively the last year and a half
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: or so under Todd Bowles. Offense trying to find their footing.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: And then the one thing to watch, I think from
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: a Cowboys perspective, that offense looks incredible. Like Dak Prescott
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: is making big time throws week after week. And it
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: shows the power, I think, of having the one-two punch
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: at receiver, like the two number one receivers. When you
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: have that, George Pins and CeeDee Lamb, any given week,
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: you could have CeeDee Lamb go off for 17 catches
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: like he did last week. So I think that's what
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: makes Dallas so dangerous. And if their defense can just
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: get a little bit better, I've been saying this all
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: offseason and into this year, just a little bit better defensively,
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: and the Cowboys are really dangerous.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all preseason. They're talking about Christian Parker and
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: the changes. Now they've had a couple injuries at linebacker
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: and so forth, but by and large, they had high
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: expectations for the defense coming in. Not everyone is a
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald rolling in first year. I mean, honestly, everyone's
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: looking for that young up-and-coming coordinator or what have you.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Not to say he's going to fail. Maybe he can
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: get it going, but so far it's been very much
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: the numbers are almost the same as last year. And
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: it was a really bad defense for the Cowboys. It's
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Steve Palazzolo joining us. Talking about the Bucs, let's just
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: look at general terms here. When are teams going to
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: learn that you need to have a quality backup quarterback?
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, you mentioned Mac Jones. When Mac Jones stepped
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: in last year for the 49ers, they were fine. Drew Locke,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: same thing this year. I mean, that Giant season is
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: basically ruined. Maybe they thought Jameis would be a little
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: bit better. But, I mean, when are teams going to
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: realize you've got to find yourself a quality backup quarterback
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: if you think you're going to be a playoff contender?
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what was interesting about the Bucs is they had
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Jake Browning in camp, and we just saw Jake Browning
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: the last two years ago fill in, or three years
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: ago for the Bengals fill in admirably for Joe Burrow.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: He's got a history of doing that a couple times.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: And they had him in camp, and it felt like
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: he'd be, okay, he's the veteran backup, and Jalen Daniels
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: is your upside play.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: And look, again, Daniels was impressive.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: But on a curve last week as an undrafted rookie
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: free agent. There's two bad interceptions in there, a couple
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: plays he misses. It was impressive relative to expectations, and
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: they like him, and I think that's fine. I was
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: a little surprised that he won the backup job outright
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: over Jake Browning. I thought, hey, maybe you carry three quarterbacks,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: and I'm all for carrying more quarterbacks because of this, right?
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: Because you can have an undrafted rookie free agent with
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: upside and carry him on the roster and let him learn.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: So I think that would be the one curious decision
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: from the Bucs was, Maybe not carrying a guy like
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: Jake Browning and going straight to the UDFA rookie.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: As the backup.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Speaking of quarterbacks, are the Falcons going to be a
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: problem now with that running game and the fact that
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Michael Penix has looked good?
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: So they remind me, remember when the Titans had Derrick
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Henry and A.J. Brown?
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: And I used to call those the dudes, right? The
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: dudes just took over games. And you'd have A.J. Brown
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: goes for $ 1. 50 and Derrick Henry goes for $ 1. 50 and
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Ryan Tannehill's running the show. And I don't know if
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: the rest of the team was great. But those guys
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: could take over. And I think the Falcons have similar
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: talent when it comes to Bijan, who's as good as
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: it gets. Drake London, who I've always loved. He's more
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: than just a big receiver, big-bodied receiver. He's a great
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: route runner, good hands, ball skills. And so they just
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: had Kyle Pitts at tight ends. They just have some
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: dudes who could take over. And I think Michael Penix Jr.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: showed a ton as a rookie. Late in the season
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: as a rookie, showed he could attack down the field.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: He took a bit of a step back last year
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: before he got hurt. And I think he's shown, okay,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: he can run the show here, certainly better than what
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Cooper Rush was doing the first two weeks of the season.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: So Michael Penick showed, hey, I can be the guy
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: that can get the ball to these dudes out in
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: space and make big plays. So Falcons are really intriguing
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: with what they've done the last couple weeks. Run game
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: has been excellent. The pass game off of that. And
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: their defense, they lost some defensive talent to injuries and suspensions.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: And it looks on paper like a very mediocre defense,
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: but they're playing hard. Jeff Ulbrich, the defensive coordinator, he's
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: done a great job. They're rushing the passer. kind of
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: a mix of some late rounders, mid rounders, and some
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: NFL veterans and really turn them into a nice, a
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: nice looking defensive line. So I've been really impressed with
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: the Falcons these last couple of weeks as everybody should.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, they're averaging like 40 points a game.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: So I'll, I'll wrap it up with this. We're all
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: big bills fans here in Seattle and probably in the
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Bay area as well, because Monday night football this week
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: is the bills.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: The mills bills taken on the Rams at SoFi stadium.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Handicap that one for me. That is a, The Rams,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I'm still trying to figure out. I don't know if
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: they got lucky coming back. I mean, they're down two
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: scores in the fourth quarter. I mean, Philadelphia's got to
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: help them along the way to get that win. they
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: did they find a way to get it puka went
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: crazy as normal well puka is crazy but anyway uh
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: he went crazy and then uh you got the bills
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: and the rams josh allen that's a that is a
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: that's a good monday night game steve.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Oh it's a great game i love it you know
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: i don't want to say potential super bowl preview because.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: You know You're in Seattle. Don't say that.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're on Seattle.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: I know. I know that.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: Two teams that could end up in the Final Four
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: as the Bills play the Seahawks in the Super Bowl, potentially.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: That's what's going to happen.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: But I think the Rams, they feel like the older
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: team that might be sleepwalking a little bit early in
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: the season. The schedule's going to get a little bit
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: easier for them, too, as the season goes on. I
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: think their goal is to find their footing at the
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: right time. I think they're playing the long game. Not
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: that you're trying to lose or trying to not play
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: as well early on, but I think they realize... Their
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: best is going to be when Aaron Donald's healthy and
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Miles Garrett's healthy. Stafford's been off a little bit, though,
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: this year, missing some throws, putting ball in harm's way.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: And my biggest question for the Rams this year wasn't
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: the team-building effort that Les Snead had. It was like, hey,
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford had, what, like 48 touchdowns and six picks
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: or whatever last year?
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: That's really tough to replicate, both numbers. That almost never happens.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: We see players with 50 touchdown seasons, they drop down
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: to 32. Six interceptions for a Matthew Stafford or whatever,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: eight or whatever it was. He's got a history of,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: you know, you're going to take some chances and throw
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: some picks.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: And he has been.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: So I thought that, you know, Stafford just coming back
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: down to earth, playing normal football was the biggest question
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: for the Rams. And I think that's really what it's
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: been these first few weeks is Stafford, you know, his
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: ups and downs and inconsistency. And then the bills you
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: started to see, like they were very close to being
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: four and oh, Josh Allen throws an interception to end
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: it very dangerous offensively though, as usual, Josh Allen can
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: take over games with his arm, with his legs and,
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: They've got some good playmakers.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Dalton Kincaid is a star.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: When you talk about teams moving to more 13 personnel
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: and creating mismatches, Dalton Kincaid is that guy. They cut
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: down on that a little bit last week, but you
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: still have to keep an eye on him. And then
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: the defense is the other thing for the Bills. They're
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: giving up a lot more than they have in the past. Yardage-wise,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: it's a more aggressive defense, but it's Jim Leonard coming
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: over from the Broncos. They haven't fully found their footing yet,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: and they've been a little bit top-heavy as far as
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Gregory Rousseau and DeLa... Deion Walker up front, two studs
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: just making big plays at the right time, but down
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: for down, the Bills are giving up a lot. So
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: I think we're going to see a shootout Monday night,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: and it'll come down to mistakes from the quarterbacks, which
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: both guys made a couple of those last week.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Good stuff, Steve. Good weekend coming up in the NFL.
• 22:20
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• 22:22
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• 23:19
  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in. Sports Radio 93.3, KJRFM, again,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: for us with you. I've been telling you about this
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: all week. Big night for us tonight at Imbibe Tap House,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Bottle House and Tap Room out there in Maple Valley.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: It is our final keg of the Mayer IPA. We
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: always set one keg aside. The beer came out from
• 23:35
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• 23:38
  Speaker 2: It came out then. And we set one keg aside
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: and we have a final keg night because beer sells
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: out so quick in downtown Seattle. We want to have
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: a kind of end of the end of our fundraising
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: effort from the golf tournament to the beer party. And
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: so we're doing that tonight at imbibe six o'clock. We'll
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: tap that final keg, watch a little Thursday night football
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and raise a glass for a lot of different things,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: including Avery Huffman, DIPG foundation, the Jordan Morris foundation for
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: young people with type one diabetes and appropriate as well
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: to do it for this week and to Holinsky's hope.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: And we'll tell you why in just a second. Mark Holinsky,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Ryan Holinsky, Tyler's brother, joining us right now on the
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Beacon Plumbing Hotline. Gentlemen, thanks for popping on. I appreciate it. Ryan,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: you're looking good there, buddy. Last time I saw you,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: you were at Druids Glen Golf Course, and there was
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: a gong show out there. You survived that crew, though,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: so that's good.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: No that was a blast thanks again for having me
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: out and thanks again for the gear too we got
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: we got some love from you guys so that was
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: awesome i had a great time actually so.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Good thanks good good and hopefully mark will get you
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: out there here in the near future for uh for
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: next year's event they always love having you out there
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: it was a great event but we missed you but
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: uh that's okay we're still doing well with this thing i.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: Love it yeah you guys are amazing we we love
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: being part of it and uh Say hi to Jess
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: for us.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I will do that. I will do that for sure.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: This is a student, and I think this is really important.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: The timing, I guess it's probably worked out probably similar,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: but Student Athlete Mental Health Week is this week. And
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I think it's World Mental Health Day is on Tuesday.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: saturday as well so it's a big week for i
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: think awareness right and ryan let me start with you
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: what does this week mean you're a former student athlete
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: for folks who don't know you play division one football
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: you're south carolina and and uh and finished up at
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: northwestern as a quarterback um you know all about the
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: pressures these young people are going through right now what
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: does this week mean obviously with tyler's situation too but
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: what does this week mean to you.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: Well It means a whole lot more to me than
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: it used to, to be honest. Just because one, I'm
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: more involved in it than I used to be. And
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: then two, I'm now kind of being away from ball.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: I can see the real struggles that guys are going through,
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: especially with all this NIL stuff coming into play and
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: these millions of dollars being thrown at guys. But one,
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: I think this week is amazing. It's amazing that my
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: parents have kept it going for this long. Being the
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: guy that sets up the sheet and all the addresses
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: for the school for the schools. I applaud them. I
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: applaud Ms. Chloe who used to work with us. And
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: that's just amazing work. But this week is just, I
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: think it could be so much more than it even
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: is now too. And this is year eight of doing it,
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: but I think mental health is just going to become
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: such a forefront and regular, regular normalized discussion topic for
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: people to do. And that's what, that's our goal. And
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: to remember Tyler's name, of course, and to, continue that legacy.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: But yeah, this week is, this week is awesome. It
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: means a whole lot to me, of course. So that's,
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: that's a little synopsis I could give you.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Over the next few weeks, Mark, we're going to see
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: and have seen already the helmet stickers on teams all
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: across the country. I know Fresno state had them last
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: week playing against Wazoo, but teams, I think it's 200 schools, right? Are,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: are wearing the helmet stickers and Mark, where did that
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: come from and what does it mean? And, and, and
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: kind of walk us through that process.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure.
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: So first of all, this year, we're at over 600 schools.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: 200 of those are Washington State Public High Schools. And
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: that board for the coaches is led by a guy
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: by the name of Craig Bartle. Craig called me and said, hey,
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: we'd love to be part of this and um, you know,
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: talk to our kids about mental health and he wasn't
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: as up on student athlete mental health week. So we
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: got kind of worked through that. He said, I'd love
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: to be, love to be part of it. Um, and
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: they are, we also, you know, in our growth and
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: you know, this from all the great work you do
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: every year for us and the mayor, um, is that
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: we took a partner, a great partner athletes for hope,
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: and they've been, uh, terrific, right? They've, they've They're much
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: older than we are, formed by Muhammad Ali and Mia
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: Hamm and, you know, all those guys. And we've been
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: working really well together. So we're really excited about that.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: What's going on in Washington is Craig figured out a
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: way to distribute all the box material, right? We didn't
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: have enough resources to get them each an individual box,
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: but we found we have places, right? We got hiding
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: places for stuff and we can order quickly and So
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: we did a bunch of stuff and Craig said, hey,
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: I'm going to have my guys put these on together, right?
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: Teams that are playing, a home team will share it
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: with the away team. They're going to put stickers on
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: and they have lapel pins and they have some other things,
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: wristbands and so forth. So super excited about that for them.
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: We also sent the challenge coin. Some of them are
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: going to be using that at the coin toss. It'll
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: be great. It's our inaugural event. student athlete mental health
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: week uh coin there but where it came from and
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: to me was i grew up as a you know
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: as a parent of of athletes as a coach of
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: athletes and we saw such a tremendous um pink ribbon.
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: Uh october month type of thing yeah for for cancer
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: awareness right we all dion wearing the the pink socks
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: and the stuff we said why can't we do that
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: right so there's no Hallmark doesn't have a day for.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: Mental health for student athletes, so we just created one.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: We started with 17 teams here in the Southeast, mostly
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: the SEC teams, and have grown it to 600.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: It's an amazing phenomenon. It's Mark Holinsky and Ryan Holinsky
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  Speaker 2: joining us right now on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline from
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  Speaker 2: Holinsky's Hope. Mark, let me go back to you just
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  Speaker 2: for a second. This week, why is it important?
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  Speaker 6: I think, Ian, we've done now over 50. Tyler Talks.
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  Speaker 6: We've done all these student athlete mental health weeks. We've
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  Speaker 6: supplied schools with modules and other resources. And the thing
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  Speaker 6: that we can't do on our own, right, is we
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  Speaker 6: have to have the kids that are struggling feel comfortable
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  Speaker 6: enough to ask for help.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 6: You wouldn't try to treat a torn ACL by yourself.
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  Speaker 6: You wouldn't try to treat liver cancer, God forbid, you.
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  Speaker 7: Know, by yourself.
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  Speaker 6: We got to figure out how to encourage our student athletes,
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  Speaker 6: especially because there's so much stigma still involved in this.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 6: Was Tyler worried that Leach was going to think he's
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  Speaker 6: less of a leader?
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  Speaker 7: Maybe.
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  Speaker 6: Or worried that the guys, you know, might not see
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  Speaker 6: him as the QB1 next year, possibly if he asked
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  Speaker 6: for help. We want that message to be loud and clear.
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  Speaker 6: You don't need to struggle alone. We all have mental health.
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  Speaker 6: We all struggle from time to time. And there's zero
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  Speaker 6: wrong with it. It might even take courage to ask
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  Speaker 6: for help. But our guys are tough. Our guys do
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  Speaker 6: tough things, hard things. Our leaders, we've seen it for
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  Speaker 6: years now. So we want to continue to press that
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  Speaker 6: message of awareness and stigma reduction as hard as we can.
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  Speaker 2: Ryan, for you, you see the stickers on a helmet.
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  Speaker 2: You've been in that room before. What would your message
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  Speaker 2: be to... a parent of a young student athlete or
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  Speaker 2: any young person right now, or that young person who
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  Speaker 2: may listen to this or hear this, because as your
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  Speaker 2: dad said, I think it's very true. Hard to ask
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  Speaker 2: for help. That little sticker, that little green ribbon that
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  Speaker 2: you'll see on helmets and have seen on helmets, that's
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  Speaker 2: the symbol. Hopefully that opens and cracks the door open,
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  Speaker 2: but you're closer to this than anybody else. What's the
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  Speaker 2: message that needs to get out there?
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  Speaker 5: If I were talking to parents and of student athletes,
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  Speaker 5: any age. Um, and I actually just talked to my
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  Speaker 5: mom about this a little bit, but, um, what student
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  Speaker 5: athletes I think need most of is just genuine, um, love,
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  Speaker 5: unconditional love and support, to be honest, because being in
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  Speaker 5: the boat that I was in and I wasn't in
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  Speaker 5: a big boat and I don't, I don't like talking
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  Speaker 5: about myself a lot, but I realized, or I got
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  Speaker 5: the two loves mixed up a little bit, the unconditional
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  Speaker 5: love and the fake love for whenever you do good.
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  Speaker 5: And whenever that do good didn't come and that fake
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  Speaker 5: love went away, I was distraught or I was upset.
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  Speaker 7: I didn't know.
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  Speaker 5: And I confused that with genuine, real love that my
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  Speaker 5: parents were giving me a little bit, you know? So
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  Speaker 5: my message would be to one, to the student athletes,
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  Speaker 5: don't buy into that to anything outside of your circle.
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  Speaker 7: There's a circle that, It's your team.
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  Speaker 3: It's your guys. It's your parents.
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  Speaker 5: It's your family, friends, whoever. So those are your genuine,
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  Speaker 5: even those could sometimes switch up, but you know, you know,
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  Speaker 5: in your heart, the genuine love that you get. So
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  Speaker 5: weed out the fake ones, realize the real love. And
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  Speaker 5: then if you're a parent or a peer or a supporter,
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  Speaker 5: whoever consistently, constantly just tell them that, that they're enough,
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  Speaker 5: that they amount to enough because being a former student
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  Speaker 5: athlete myself and not even, Anyways, I want to stop
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  Speaker 5: saying that stuff, but being a former student athlete myself,
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  Speaker 5: I think the one thing I always wanted to attain
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  Speaker 5: was perfection and perfection is just not attainable. And when
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  Speaker 5: you can't attain an unattainable goal, you talk bad to yourself.
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  Speaker 5: So just be a good teammate to yourself, be a
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  Speaker 5: good teammate to your families, to your friends, to your teammates, obviously. Um,
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  Speaker 5: and that means being honest, being genuine. and being constantly
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  Speaker 5: there for them. Because when you're not there and they
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  Speaker 5: might need you, it's hard to get trust back for
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  Speaker 5: people like that a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: And, I mean, don't demand it. I mean, you're a
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  Speaker 2: starting quarterback in the SEC at a very young age.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a lot of pressure. And there's kids
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  Speaker 2: like that. It doesn't matter what level you're playing at
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  Speaker 2: all across the country. Don't forget the Big Ten. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and the Big Ten.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: At the school, you have to be fairly smart to
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  Speaker 2: go to, last I checked, too. They're doing awesome, too.
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  Speaker 2: They are. How about Northwestern? Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: Thankfully for football.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm just kidding. Mark, let me wrap it up
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  Speaker 2: with this. We've talked about it before, but as people
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  Speaker 2: are coming out and they're buying the beer and they're
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  Speaker 2: playing the golf tournament or they're seeing the Student Mental
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  Speaker 2: Health Awareness Week and they're seeing all those things, what
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  Speaker 2: you guys do at Helinski's Hope, the Tyler Talks are
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  Speaker 2: the most important thing. Just in a minute or so,
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  Speaker 2: just tell me what the Tyler Talks are all about.
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  Speaker 2: And this is the most important work you do. And
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  Speaker 2: it's not just college student athletes anymore. I know it's expanded.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds great. I love the fact that it's doing
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  Speaker 2: the high school here, but tell us what that's about.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, Tyler talk evolved. It was, it all started the
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  Speaker 6: night we were there. Um, I asked, uh, I forget
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  Speaker 6: who now, but I asked if I could talk to
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  Speaker 6: the team.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 6: So I went in the locker room. Um, sorry, I
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  Speaker 6: went into the weight room, the old weight room, which
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  Speaker 6: was Tyler's new weight room. Um, everybody took a knee
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  Speaker 6: and they were just looking at me like, tell, tell
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  Speaker 6: us something, you know, And the message I wanted to
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  Speaker 6: share with them was don't be mad at Tyler. We
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  Speaker 6: still have no idea why he left. But I know this.
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  Speaker 6: I know we love those guys. I know we love
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  Speaker 6: the coaches, respected the coaches, and love WSU. So our
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  Speaker 6: Tyler talk has been to share his story. If somebody
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  Speaker 6: like Tyler with so much going for him, with everything
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  Speaker 6: around him seemingly perfect, he's the brightest light in the room,
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  Speaker 6: the happiest kid on the team, if he can die
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  Speaker 6: by suicide, then any of us can. And so that's
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  Speaker 6: not to scare anybody, right? That's just the reality. So
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  Speaker 6: our Tyler talk shares a bunch of that stuff, but
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  Speaker 6: the point, the whole point of it is hope. Suicide
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  Speaker 6: is preventable. Tyler should be here. We got to help
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  Speaker 6: the next guy.
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  Speaker 2: How many have you done?
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  Speaker 6: We're at 500.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 6: We did 25 in the state of Alabama in the
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  Speaker 6: last six weeks.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: I've told the story before. I'm gonna tell it again. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: And it's always hard for me to tell this because
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  Speaker 2: it's personal, but you spoke at Whitworth three years ago.
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  Speaker 2: My son was playing football there. And I think that
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  Speaker 2: day you did like Whitworth, Eastern and Gonzaga. I think
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  Speaker 2: you did three schools that day, all in Eastern Washington,
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  Speaker 2: spoke to hundreds of student athletes. It wasn't just the
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  Speaker 2: Whitworth football team or the Gonzaga basketball team or the
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  Speaker 2: Eastern football. It was all the fall sports. I know Kiefer,
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  Speaker 2: my son said it was football, volleyball, cross country soccer.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're all in there. And the thing that
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  Speaker 2: amazed me, And this is why it's important. At the end,
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  Speaker 2: three kids came up to Coach Sandberg and said, I
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  Speaker 2: need help. That's why you do it, right? That's why
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  Speaker 2: you do it.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: I could bore you with stories about those exact moments,
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  Speaker 6: but absolutely right. And we're not trying to force guys
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  Speaker 6: to get up right at that moment. What we're trying
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  Speaker 6: to do is to say, look, if this is the time,
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  Speaker 6: it's okay today, tomorrow, a year from now. And oh,
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  Speaker 6: by the way, Kiefer's just a superstar to me. He's
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  Speaker 6: a beast. He's such a dude. I love seeing him
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  Speaker 6: every year when I get to get out there. And
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  Speaker 6: it's him and friends of his, right? It doesn't matter
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  Speaker 6: what position, what sport, what side of the country you're on.
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  Speaker 6: All of us have struggles with our mental health at times.
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  Speaker 6: And You know, for a young guy like that to
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  Speaker 6: understand it, to have Ryan on here talking about it,
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  Speaker 6: I think this is the critical piece for awareness is
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  Speaker 6: it's okay. We've got to do this. This is too
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  Speaker 6: important to ignore.
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  Speaker 2: Check on your kids. Ask for help if you're a
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  Speaker 2: young person. You guys keep doing the great work you are.
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  Speaker 2: We'll raise a glass tonight to you, to Kim, to Tyler,
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  Speaker 2: and to all those out there struggling as well. And
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  Speaker 2: keep up the good work. I love you guys. I'll
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  Speaker 2: see you soon, all right?
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  Speaker 7: Love you, Ian.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Love you, buddy. There you go.
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  Speaker 2: Mark Holinsky, Ryan Holinsky. Kim couldn't be with us because
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  Speaker 2: she's actually speaking at a school right now. She's doing
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  Speaker 2: some work down there in the SEC. Cheers to you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Imbibe tonight, 6 o'clock. More on that later.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks, guys.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk soon.
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  Speaker 3: Salute.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. That is the Holinsky family, Holinsky's Hope.
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