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What Wasn't Told at the Men Tell All · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with her Radio Everybody is another episode of the very
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  Speaker 1: semi famous, the very exciting and the very lovely almost
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  Speaker 1: same as podcast I and one of your hosts Ben,
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  Speaker 1: the semi famous podcast that is a really cool interpretation
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  Speaker 1: of our name. I'm Ashley and this week we do
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  Speaker 1: have your batch bracket rule of the week and there
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  Speaker 1: is no rule this week because we're only down to
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  Speaker 1: three people. So keep signing up, keep filling it out.
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  Speaker 1: See if you win. We'd love to meet you. We
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  Speaker 1: have good turnout so far actually on this thing. Let's
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  Speaker 1: keep it going. I would love to um. All right, well, Ben,
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  Speaker 1: how how are you doing? This is like the first
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  Speaker 1: host shot segment that like, I feel like we have
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  Speaker 1: nothing to talk about? What do you mean? My life
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  Speaker 1: super exciting? Actually, actually I have been going to bed
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  Speaker 1: with my wife at about seven forty five and the
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  Speaker 1: PM because it gets dark, we've been turning on a
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  Speaker 1: Christmas movie and for the last three nights. So one
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite things, I'll tell you this, my favorite
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  Speaker 1: things now in the world is when Jessica lays her
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  Speaker 1: head on my chest as we watch a movie. So
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  Speaker 1: like we'll be laying there and she'll she'll just cuttle
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  Speaker 1: up real close, put her head on my chest. The
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  Speaker 1: only problem with that is it takes about twenty five
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  Speaker 1: minutes at most for her to be doing the whole
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  Speaker 1: like sleep wiggles, you know I'm talking about when they
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  Speaker 1: like you fall asleep and you start like running in
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  Speaker 1: your sleep. She does that. So about eight thirty she
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  Speaker 1: falls asleep and about five ten she's wide away downstairs
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  Speaker 1: making coffee. God, that's horrible. Yeah, I'm not up at
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  Speaker 1: that point. My my alarm doesn't go off for another
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  Speaker 1: hour after that. But still, um, that's been our week.
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  Speaker 1: Been a lot of Christmas movies, a lot of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of great time with my wife back here in Denver. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: We are back in the swing of things. She is
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  Speaker 1: giving as many facials and derma plains as she can,
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  Speaker 1: and I am catching up on everything missed the last
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  Speaker 1: few weeks. But Ashley big opening night for Audrey's Coffee Shop.
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  Speaker 1: We did have a big week. I lied before when
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  Speaker 1: I said we had nothing to talk about. Ben's even
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  Speaker 1: been involved heavily this week in the opening of Audrey's
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  Speaker 1: Coffeehouse and Lounge. Our opening night. I didn't been do
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  Speaker 1: a head count, but I would assume there have been
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  Speaker 1: close to four people there. It was massive. It was
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  Speaker 1: so thank you Bachelor Nation for coming out and droves.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing in the very support of Rhode Island community.
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  Speaker 1: That was awesome. Ben said that he thought we had
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  Speaker 1: enough coffee for a while, but said that we flew
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  Speaker 1: out of it given that we were only open for
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  Speaker 1: like seven days and needed at a rush order. We
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  Speaker 1: have been roasting an overnighting coffee now for the last
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  Speaker 1: three days to this coffee shop, because you've sold out
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  Speaker 1: about as much coffee as I expected to last few
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  Speaker 1: three weeks and so way, oh yeah, so you have
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  Speaker 1: like really really started out on a good foot. I
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  Speaker 1: mean I estimated this based on our Golden Coffee Shop,
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  Speaker 1: which is a very great coffee shop here in Golden
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  Speaker 1: that does really well. Uh, and you guys just dominated it.
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  Speaker 1: So congrats in the opening. It has been a big week. Um,
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  Speaker 1: things will get smoother, uh and easier. But I know
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  Speaker 1: from everything that I've read and heard that place is
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  Speaker 1: really really cool. Thank you so much. You talk about
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  Speaker 1: all your cozy Christmas Eve moments with your wife and
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  Speaker 1: I'm jealous because I feel like where's my husband. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like to stay at home wife right now because
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  Speaker 1: Jared is at the coffee shop a sixteen hours a day. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, we haven't had a lot of quality time lately,
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  Speaker 1: which sucks, especially around this time of year where we
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  Speaker 1: would definitely be doing the Christmas movie watching. But it's okay.
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  Speaker 1: All will settle into place eventually. I'm thinking probably like
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  Speaker 1: March or April. Yeah, yeah, hey, celebrate then. Well, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: this is mentel all week uh for the Bachelorette, and
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  Speaker 1: this is Michelle's season of the Bachelorette. It was a
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  Speaker 1: unique mentel all. There was a lot of drama, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fighting, a lot of just unexpected fan cameos
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  Speaker 1: and things happening to spice up the mentel all. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: This is Caitlin and Tatia's second um hosting of am
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  Speaker 1: I right, yeah, the second hosting of the Mental all
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  Speaker 1: I thought they did great. Uh. Some of the big
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  Speaker 1: storylines in this mentel all that will dive into is
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  Speaker 1: is Tasia has to walk out of Mental all um
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  Speaker 1: due to the conversation she was having about her breakup.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. We're also going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the drama amongst the men and then tease and talk
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  Speaker 1: about what we think of the next season of The Bachelor,
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  Speaker 1: which they confirmed I guess during this episode or I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, but I think they confirmed it last week. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well they confirmed it last week. Clayton is the Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: and uh, and they showed a sneak peek of his season,
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  Speaker 1: which was full of drama, as we had to expect.
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  Speaker 1: It looks better than the teaser for this season and
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  Speaker 1: looked it does. Um. I think I think that poor
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  Speaker 1: Clayton guy is a nice guy. I think this thing
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  Speaker 1: was probably very hard for him to navigate, which is
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  Speaker 1: not a criticism on Clayton as a human. I just
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  Speaker 1: think that he's a nice guy who cared a lot
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  Speaker 1: um and uh and probably walked into something that he
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  Speaker 1: did not expect. You mean he he accidentally said I
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  Speaker 1: love you to three people. Yeah. What a mistakes? What
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  Speaker 1: a mistake, That's what I said. I I posted it
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  Speaker 1: last night. I was like, you know what, I hope
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  Speaker 1: at some point everybody has during this holiday season a
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  Speaker 1: moment to reflect on my season of the Bachelor and go,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, we gave that bing guy a hard
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  Speaker 1: time and he deserves an apology. I know. Oh the
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  Speaker 1: things that have happened since to think that that was dramatic, right,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Well, time moves on. Well, hey, let's
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  Speaker 1: take a break here. Actually, when we come back, we
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  Speaker 1: are going to do the mente All breakdown and also
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  Speaker 1: hot topics of this week within Bachelor Nation, Caitlyn and
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  Speaker 1: Tatious start out Mental All. They are still the host
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  Speaker 1: and mentors. Live shows are all ease A big deal.
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  Speaker 1: I think for me to watch them as host because
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  Speaker 1: I can be easy and it's totally different than you know,
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  Speaker 1: hosting the show where it's like little cameos and conversations.
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  Speaker 1: I thought they did great. Yeah, I thought they did
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  Speaker 1: really well. It's so much harder than doing the little
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  Speaker 1: like hi guys. So today Michelle wanted you to know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, conducting a live show in front of a
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  Speaker 1: studio audience is pretty it is pretty crazy. They did.
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  Speaker 1: They did do a great job, just reiterating how we
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  Speaker 1: feel about those ladies. I will say, though, different than
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  Speaker 1: mental Alls of the past where they really let these
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  Speaker 1: guys go at it. And in fact, if you noticed
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  Speaker 1: watching it, there was moments where Calin and Tasia rolled
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  Speaker 1: their eyes and said oh geez, when somebody would speak
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  Speaker 1: up too often or they kind of like let these
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  Speaker 1: things go on longer than we've seen in the past. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I can I vibe you on that, not that not
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  Speaker 1: that that's bad. It's just like it's just what it
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  Speaker 1: is kind of their style. And I mean as a viewer, ash,
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  Speaker 1: I don't fully dislike it because I want to see
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  Speaker 1: what's going on. Yeah, yeah, I want them to be
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  Speaker 1: kind of like fans. So I actually thought the first
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  Speaker 1: half of Mental All was a lot stronger than the
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  Speaker 1: second half when I think about the memorable moments. Oddly, um,
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  Speaker 1: it was between characters that probably weren't there very long
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  Speaker 1: for me, my standout moments and maybe like because it's
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  Speaker 1: it's Mental All and there there's like a lot of
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  Speaker 1: filler content in it. Do you want to just kind
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  Speaker 1: of go through the episode like with what stood out
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  Speaker 1: to you and we stood out to me? Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: I do agree with you. I thought Romeo stood out
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  Speaker 1: to me. Uh, and Romeo I've always been a fan of.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he, you know, he's very intelligent obviously with
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  Speaker 1: his pedigree and education in and kind of what he
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  Speaker 1: does for a living. I also just thought he seemed
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  Speaker 1: very comfortable during his time in the Bachelor. I thought
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  Speaker 1: he was released very early. I don't know why. Um.
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  Speaker 1: He kind of reminds me of the John Hersey's I
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  Speaker 1: think that's his name. Where who's with? Whoever's with? Um? Katie? Now? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was a big fan of John and
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  Speaker 1: then he got let go and I still have the Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Ben, it's all coming back to me now.
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  Speaker 1: Remember it's all coming back. You were a huge fan
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  Speaker 1: of John. It was like your dark hor Yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: was my dark horse. I knew it. I do. People
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  Speaker 1: just need to listen to me more, Ashley. That's the thing,
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  Speaker 1: is I just I I predicted it. I still have
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  Speaker 1: the Instagram message where he said, hey, I heard you
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  Speaker 1: spoke nicely of me, thanks for that. Like I did,
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  Speaker 1: I thought he I thought he had a lot going
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  Speaker 1: for him. And then look at it now, so and
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  Speaker 1: I thought they looked good together. Yeah, I know, how funny. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So Romeo was a stand out to you. His hair
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  Speaker 1: was a stand out to me. I did not like
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  Speaker 1: the new do. Maybe that's going to be a trend.
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  Speaker 1: I mean maybe just maybe that comes like we'll see
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  Speaker 1: it spread across the country because of this year's you know,
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  Speaker 1: season of The Bachelor at But anyways, okay, so back
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  Speaker 1: to a big moment that first stood out to me.
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  Speaker 1: Uh was obviously the Will in Peter drama Will call
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  Speaker 1: him Peter a narcissa wild That was the best part
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  Speaker 1: of the whole episode. I mean, so contentious and so dramatic. So, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: I want to hear from you as you watch this
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  Speaker 1: on television, what is going through your mind as these
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  Speaker 1: two people two seats from each other, are just going
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  Speaker 1: back and forth. Well, okay, so Will says that Peter
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  Speaker 1: should have gone on to Shark Tank if he was
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  Speaker 1: wanting to promote a business, and it all stems from
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  Speaker 1: that drama they had about it was Will calling Peter
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  Speaker 1: a narcissist, right, yeah, and then remember Peter ended up
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  Speaker 1: throwing the top gun jacket into the pool. It was
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  Speaker 1: all crazy and overdone. But now we see that Will,
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  Speaker 1: it's so obviously writing horrible reviews about Peter's pizza place
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  Speaker 1: online and now, as like a cafe owner, I know
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  Speaker 1: how absolutely detrimental that is and I have so much
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  Speaker 1: and like, this is so not cool, dude, you can't
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  Speaker 1: do this. Um, so I was definitely team Peter and
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  Speaker 1: all of it, and uh, yeah, I don't. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: well it is it's it's super detrimental to a business.
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  Speaker 1: I you just really have to dislike somebody and want
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  Speaker 1: to see somebody like fail to do like that. Like
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  Speaker 1: there there have been people in my life that I
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  Speaker 1: am not fans of that. I I just don't get
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  Speaker 1: along with it. I don't see eye to eye with that.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we've had to that well, just when it come
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  Speaker 1: to mind, like like the idea that you would take
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  Speaker 1: action to then go out and hurt that person is
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  Speaker 1: is very odd to me. Now, I don't think Peter
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  Speaker 1: handles himself well on the show or even on mente all.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, Uh, he was very confrontational. I felt like
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  Speaker 1: the men there still don't really like him. Uh that
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  Speaker 1: he was probably pretty annoying, But it doesn't take away
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  Speaker 1: from the fact that Will went out of his way
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  Speaker 1: to leave the leave these reviews. And I just can't
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  Speaker 1: get behind that. Like I can't say that was a
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  Speaker 1: funny thing or a good thing. It was. It was
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  Speaker 1: honestly a little disturbing. Yeah, yeah, it was like evil. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the bad sould So that starts out there drama. It
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  Speaker 1: moves into that just a note before we get too
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  Speaker 1: far along to where some guy, which I thought was
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  Speaker 1: one of the weird parts of this show, comes out
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  Speaker 1: and and serves will Um for defamation. UM. But I'm like, dude,
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  Speaker 1: do you know that you have now put yourself in
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  Speaker 1: the public figure realm you cannot sue for defamation at
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  Speaker 1: this point. Oh no, it's just like it's it's pretty
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  Speaker 1: much impossible. You're never gonna win it. Um. And but
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  Speaker 1: it was odd to me. So this happens, right, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, is this real? Is this not real? Probably
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  Speaker 1: not real? But then Peter goes, this is just a
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  Speaker 1: taste that will what will happen on in real life,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, this isn't real. Like Peter
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  Speaker 1: said that line, I was like, oh, this is all fake,
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  Speaker 1: Like super odd, super weird to have happened, but like
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  Speaker 1: still spice things up, and that heightened the drama a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more. UM. So okay, moving into the next
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  Speaker 1: big dramatic thing for me, you might have something different,
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  Speaker 1: But I'll stop here and say Ryan's little segment, uh,
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  Speaker 1: for his very short time on this show, um mental
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  Speaker 1: all really highlighted Ryan and his his moment of celebrity
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  Speaker 1: by pretty much tanking himself with a playbook for how
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  Speaker 1: to be on The Bachelor at this This segment went
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  Speaker 1: on for a long time. I was surprised by it.
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  Speaker 1: I still don't think it was the biggest deal ever.
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  Speaker 1: And they also were trying to villainize him by saying
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  Speaker 1: that his dream girls didn't look like Michelle and insinuating that, like,
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  Speaker 1: he wouldn't be into a girl like Michelle. But like,
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  Speaker 1: just because your celebrity crushes don't look like the person
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  Speaker 1: you're dating doesn't mean that you're not attracted to them. Again,
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  Speaker 1: he did a terrible job of explaining himself. He definitely
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  Speaker 1: went with the whole like I'm just gonna throw apologies
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  Speaker 1: out here to see if it sticks. Uh it didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't you know. I don't think he was meant
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  Speaker 1: to be with Michelle. I don't think his exit on
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  Speaker 1: night one was a loss to the show or a
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  Speaker 1: loss for Michelle. But but but they really highlighted it,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, and they really made it a thing. Part
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  Speaker 1: Deep even goes at Ryan during this whole thing, like
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  Speaker 1: Part Deep steps up and just pretty much says that
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  Speaker 1: Ryan has no integrity. Uh, I don't know if that's you,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know Ryan at all, but I was
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  Speaker 1: shocked to see that coming from part deep. That's like
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  Speaker 1: a bold thing to say for somebody who's only known
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  Speaker 1: a person for a matter of hours on Night one.
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  Speaker 1: Very bold. Yeah, what sit out to you? Then there's
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  Speaker 1: so many guys that I did not know their names
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  Speaker 1: sitting up there. Yeah. I mean, have you ever like
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  Speaker 1: seen to tell all where you forgot so many of
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  Speaker 1: the men? No, and I wonder why. I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: that's just because of the But I can't even blame
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  Speaker 1: it on that, because like tastious season, we knew a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the guys sitting out there, right, we had
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  Speaker 1: memories of them. Um. I wonder if it wasn't ademic
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  Speaker 1: thing it wasn't. Yeah, I don't know why the cast
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  Speaker 1: that was not like the final three or four really
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  Speaker 1: five did not stand out to us. Yeah, it's very weird.
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  Speaker 1: I will say that watching Clayton's preview, seeing them back
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  Speaker 1: at the mansion and seeing them traveling to places again
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  Speaker 1: was refreshing. I didn't realize how much I missed it
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  Speaker 1: and maybe how much it contributes to the show. No,
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  Speaker 1: I agree with that now, and I miss the mansion.
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  Speaker 1: I miss having the familiarity of seeing them in the
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  Speaker 1: hot tub or in the pool or you know, and
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  Speaker 1: in the sitting areas, even the rose ceremony room. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun to go back to and to
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  Speaker 1: see them within it. It's gonna be uh kind of flat.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, for as many changes that have happened in
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  Speaker 1: the last year and a half to this show, it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit of familiarity that I think
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  Speaker 1: many viewers are wanting and probably needing if they're going
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  Speaker 1: to continue to be huge supporters of the show, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, we hope they are. But I'll move us
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  Speaker 1: through this then. Actually, the next big standout moment is Martin.
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  Speaker 1: We see Martin again. Martin had a terrible exit. I'll
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  Speaker 1: awful exit. Yeah, really bad he does. He does nothing
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  Speaker 1: to redeem himself here for me. I know, he apologizes,
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  Speaker 1: but he just he's appologized and just what he's got
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  Speaker 1: to do, and I just get like weird vibes from him.
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  Speaker 1: It does feel like this season had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people that we had like odd encounters with, like more
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  Speaker 1: villains per se, maybe not standout villains. Like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if any of these people are going to be
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  Speaker 1: like guys that made you feel weird, like you did
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  Speaker 1: not want to be friends with them, You didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to be around them, Like Jamie, like I like resent
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  Speaker 1: him through the TV, Like I don't want to be
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  Speaker 1: near him. He makes me nervous. Yeah, he had you
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  Speaker 1: had like a reaction to him. Well, it doesn't stop
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  Speaker 1: thing because right after Martin, uh, we have Chris. So
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  Speaker 1: like right away we have a bunch of confrontations. Now again,
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  Speaker 1: I want to highlight this. This doesn't always happen on
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  Speaker 1: the mental but we had a confrontation again amongst Peter
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  Speaker 1: and Will. Then we move into Ryan and everybody confronts Ryan,
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  Speaker 1: and then everybody moves into Martin and confronting my Martin,
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  Speaker 1: and then we get to Chris, which felt like Alice
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  Speaker 1: side of Jamie. We'll get to Jamie a second. Chris
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  Speaker 1: had the most angst within the house. People were very
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  Speaker 1: upset with Chris, and he definitely didn't do anything to
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  Speaker 1: redeem himself here. This was a complete even backtracked here
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  Speaker 1: calling a lou out um, I mean highlighting the fact
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  Speaker 1: that he had a low I q uh a Lou
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  Speaker 1: stands up and says, hey, I'm black excellence. I've got
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  Speaker 1: a master's degree. Like really puts Chris in his place.
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  Speaker 1: But another confrontation. We're starting up with five confrontations during
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  Speaker 1: mental all and Rick, who probably is the guy who,
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  Speaker 1: like we trust most in the house that was up
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  Speaker 1: there on that stage, besides maybe Rodney. He said that
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  Speaker 1: he was roommates with him and still doesn't believe him.
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  Speaker 1: He said that outrageous thing. Remember he was like, I've
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: been some sexual induenda with hotter girls, and I'm like, okay,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: first off, I don't even know that there are hotter
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: girls in existence the Michelle, So I really don't like you. Now,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: what a weird thing to say to like even you know,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: people can blame it on locker room talk or whatever,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: but like, at any point if any guys like I
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: hooked up with hot a girls and the girl I'm
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: with reight, like, that's just a weird thing to say,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: like and have your mindset around and a weird place
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: to put yourself within. Um, if that's true, again, it's
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: good that Chris went home. Now I'm you know, this
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: is the whole thing got weird to me because you're right.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's why this episode felt so heavy at times,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: because there were so many interactions with people and so
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: little um even desire, and they don't even ask for forgiveness.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: They just apologize, like, hey, I'm sorry that I hurt
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: everybody in this room. It's like, well, okay, but like
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: you're not still taking accountability. And that moses into Jamie
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: because Jamie, in my opinion, took no accountability in fact.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: And I know people on here are gonna get upset
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: with me and know they're gonna get fired up. And
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I've been very good about this for a long time.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: But Jamie described himself multiple time during this episode saying,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm the type of guy that likes to
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: be a coach too and an encourage your too. I'm
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: the type of guy that that wants honesty. I'm telling you.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: That is so Jamie. Though, like Jamie radiate self describing
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: in that way, Oh, it's so repulsive, and so I
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: hope people hear it and go, hey, when somebody does this,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: when they tell you they're a nice person, it should
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: raise a little red flag. I'm not saying the biggest
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: red flag, but when somebody says I don't. I'm the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: type of person that likes to encourage others. Okay, cool, Like,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: good for you show me because I haven't seen it yet, like,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and Michelle calls him Adam. I thought Michelle did a
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: great job as saying, Jamie, it's nice that you're sitting
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: up there apologizing. It's nicier up there telling me how
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: great I am. But you did none of that actionably
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: when it mattered. You're just doing it now because you
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: feel forced to. That was her exact words. I'm not
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: saying that any of these people should be punished. I'm
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: just saying they should be called out. You. You should
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: be called out when your actions don't meet your words,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and you should try to adjust a little bit to
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: helping your actions match your words. If you're gonna say
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: you're a nice guy who likes to be an encourage her,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: you better do it. Yeah, And he was like, you know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I know I didn't say that I was the one
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: that brought it up, but you know, I thought I
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: might do that. I may face up to it, but
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: then it just like, I guess I just didn't it.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: So the first part of this whole episode is confrontations.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: It's drama, probably more confrontations and drama than we've seen
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: in a long time. I can't remember the last time
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: this type of thing happened on a live show. But
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: you know what that being said, did we really care
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: about seeing all of this? Because I remember when the
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: tell all what happened, and I would be like, Oh
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: my god, so and so is gonna have to sit
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: close to so into and they're going to have to
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: face that. Like you know, people made a big deal
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: when I was going to have to confront Kelsey or
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: like when on your season the Twins and Olivia, like
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: there were things that felt like so unresolved. There was
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: there was nothing about this tell all what I was like,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm scared for I'm scared for so
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: and so. No, maybe, I mean I wonderfully I would say, maybe, Jamie,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I would wonder if a little bit that comes to
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Ashley from your investment and our investment into Michelle and
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: her love story, because so much of this season has
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: been us talking about, you know, the guys at the
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: end and the guys that she matches with that the
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: drama just feels like it a little bit takes away
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: from that, and so it hasn't been something we've gotten
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: super into. There hasn't been cliffhanger storylines necessarily on an
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: episode that we're like, oh, I can't wait till next
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: week to see how this plays out. They're mostly just
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: stupid arguments for people being stupid. You know what that's
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: that raises a good point normally, you know, for the
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: past i'd say like five years, there's been non complete
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: episodes where like, we don't end after a roast, but
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: almost all of these episodes have ended after a ROAs ceremony.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: And now I missed the other way. No, I don't
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: like you don't you like the conclusion? Yeah, I don't
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: like to be thinking about it all week. I want
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: to just close. I want to close close the laptop
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: after I get sent the screener and say I'm done. Um,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: but that's just me. Well, next big moment after the
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: commercial break, we come into Caitlin asking Tasia while why
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: she's not wearing her engagement ring. It's a big moment
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: in the episode, especially for a host to kind of
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: have to be put on the hot seat as so,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: what do you think? I thought it was really awkward?
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't. I didn't like I did not like
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the way it was done. I know that they wanted
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: it to be addressed, and that's totally I mean, I
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's cool. I mean, if it was
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: cool with Tasha, then it's cool with me. But I
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: just thought it was weird to just be like, oh, hey, friends,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I noticed your rings that on. Maybe we should address
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: this now in the middle of the episode. I felt
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: like it could have been placed somewhere else. Uh, I
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: don't know, how how did you feel about it? I
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: just thought was awkward. I mean not that it's going
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: to be like not awkward, but well, just from a
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: flow standpoint, it was weird because all the drama was done.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: You know, they're getting ready to bring Rodney on the stage,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: and so you know, best case scenario is Tashia gets
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: confronted on this, she explains herself, and then she puts
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: a smile on her face. In her views Rodney, that's impossible.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: She just got of a relationship probably, I mean a
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: week or two before this episode, and so had it
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: was just hard. She apparently filmed this at episode the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: day of or the day after the breakup was announced,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: so it's been within the past two weeks. Yes, so,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, just from a flow perspective, it felt oddly placed.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I thought it could be done. It's very end at
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the very beginning, but right in the middle, like right
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: before they bring good old Rodney up to talk see exactly. Actually,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I think it would have been okay at the end
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: because it was like, okay, well, we're going to continue
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: to watch Michelle's love story. Um, but Tassia, we have
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: a little bit of an update on what has happened,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: um with yours. So that happens, Roddy comes up on stage.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Tassia then walks off this stage. I'm sure to take
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: a breather, um, just to refocus. Uh you know, I
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: mean I think it was it was just probably needed.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: But Rodney comes up. It looks a little bit like
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: almost stagey, but sure it wasn't. Um. I bet you
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: she was sitting there for a second and trying to
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: compose herself, blink back the tears, you know, try to
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: console that lump in her throat, and she probably was like,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I can't do it, and it's going to be really
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: awkward if I'm sitting here and I start crying in
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: front of him about what's going through my brain in
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: my heart, so you know that I think that she
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: probably just said okay in her head, like let me
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: just walk off for a second. Yeah, it makes sense.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I agree, it did, look and I mean probably because
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: so much of this episode, like they had the streaker, uh,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: they had the guy um serving will um. They there
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: is something else that happened during this episode I forget
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: at this point. So much of it kind of felt
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: like these are weird things that happen on a mentel
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: all that's supposed to be live that this was like
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: it kind of fell into that category of the one
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: off weird thing. But I'm sure it was just Tasha
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: needing a break and saying, but yeah, it's just with
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: this and within this episode of Fellow Weird. But anyways,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Rodney gets on stage. Uh, nothing made you here, in
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: my opinion, other than just finding out that Rodney is
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: still a good dude and their relationship move really slow,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: and that it didn't make sense long term for them
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: to stay together. Caitlin does say that maybe she'll find
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: love on the beaches of Mexico, and I have to say,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: if there's one guy in this group that I feel
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: like we're definitely going to see as a routable, more
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: romantic character in Paradise. It would be Rodney. Another shoeing
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: for Paradise, I would say would be Peter. Yeah, yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I would say that too. Rodney. Rodney is a routable character.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to see him in Paris. I think he'll
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: do great in Paradise. He's he reminds me of a
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: lot of the guys who have done really well there
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and met the loves of their lives. They're just a
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: nice guy looking for love, honest, um and uh, and
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: just a kind human that you feel like you want
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: to be around. Well, this brings us into a little
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: break where we officially get to dive into Clayton's season
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: of the Bachelor. The guys start talking about Clayton because
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: he is not there. Um, we get to find out
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: a little bit more about how they feel about Clayton.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Feels like they all really like him, that they think
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: he's going to do great. Um, let's just go then
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: and talk. Since we're talking about Clayton, talk about his
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: preview Ashley. The preview that was aired seems dramatic, seems intense. Um,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: not what I expected, but I want to hear your
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: thoughts before I share mine. I don't know whether I
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: should say this or not, but there was a girl,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say it anyway. At the opening of
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Audrey Is, there was a girl that in attendance who
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: was on Clayton's season, and she texted me yesterday during
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the the airing of this preview and she was like,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, preview just aired. It feels really intense. Uh.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: One of my friends is heavily involved in the preview
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: and she's like, it's just it's just so crazy. And
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like watching this and I'm like, actually, it looks good. Um,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: does it look like inten more intense than another Bachelor season?
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think there's so much focus though
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: on that top three. We don't we don't have any
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: other vibes as like how it's going to be throughout
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: as you weep through the girls. I was surprised that
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: he admits openly that he was intimate with more than
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: one person. Okay, okay, so that's been You're really on
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: top of things today. I have pregnancy brain. Wow. That
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: was interesting because the only reasoning as to why I
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: would think he would say that in that moment would
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: be if he lied to one of them or lied
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: to both. I'm previously and said I didn't with the
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: other person, because isn't it usually kind of assumed that
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: it that that there's a strong possibility at the top
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: two or whatever that might be that after fantasy suites
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: that has been done. Do you do you know what
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I mean? I thinks I think that's the assumption, and
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I think, like, usually it's not. I think that usually
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the lead doesn't end up sleeping with like all three
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: in the fantasy suite, but those are things that are
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: addressed later on in private or it's like, oh, by
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: the way, I didn't. Why does he feel the need
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: to tell both of them at that moment. Well, I
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: think it's the assumption. I also think people don't talk
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: about it because it brings up something. I mean, if
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: you're the lead, you signed up for everything to be
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: aired out on the table, everything to be seen and
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: known about you. If you're contestant, you've SIMI done that.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: You don't expect uh, I mean Nick Vile was famous
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: for this back in the day with Andy, But like,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: you just don't expect it to be talked about unless
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: you both agree upon it because maybe you don't want
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: the whole world knowing what happened in the fantasy suite,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: so it's assumed by the audience, it's probably assumed by
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: the cast members. But I agree with you that the
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: conversation typically happens in private if you did, because it's
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: just healthier and you've probably not had the opportunity to
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: go up to that person be like, hey, are you
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: okay if I talk about the fact that we were
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: intimate in the fantasy suite? Like, I just feel like,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: if you haven't had that conversation, it's not exactly wise
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: to just throw it out there. But there has to
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: be a reason why he's throwing out there. Either he
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: feels like he has to, he feels he feels guilty,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: like something happens that though I'm not saying it's definitely
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: not excuse what would be. You only can say that
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff publicly if you believe it's wise and
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: healthy for every party involved, And unless like guilt or
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: whatever is not the reason to do that, you have
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: to say no, I'm I'll wait and have this conversation afterwards. Um.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: But I'm so bizarre that he wouldn't even pull them
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: each aside and been like, Hey, I have to tell
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: you something. It's so weird there in front of the
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: two of them, so they could just look at each
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: other and be like, uh, this is weird. Well, hey,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: we don't know a lot about Clayton. We don't know
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: about a lot about his season, but we do know
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: somebody who It's been a while since she came on
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: the podcast. She is the founder of this podcast, the
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: executive producer of the podcast. She has met Clayton very
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: recently at a Nightheart event. She's been able to spend
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: time with him, and she's coming on the podcast right
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: now to tell us her thoughts on our new bachelor, Clayton. Okay,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: we have Amy Sugarman, our producer, on the line, and
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: she hung out with Clayton for apparently an extended period
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: of time at l A's Kiss FM jingle Ball. Amy. Hi, guys,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: welcome back to the podcast. It's been way too long.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I'm always watching and listening, but welcome back to your podcast.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: First of all, I have to tell you Ashley, Oh
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: my god. So last night I was in the bathtub,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: which is like you know what I do. So I
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: had my phone and I'm going through my Instagram. Oh
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: my god. First of all, I feel horrible for you
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: because I knew it was bad. But your Instagram where
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: you showed all the pictures and video of you, Oh
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: my god, I mean I love the Instagram. So for
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: everyone listening, so Ashley showed all these like beautiful models pregnant,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: like just living their best lives, like pregnancy is just
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: a joy, and like they had blowouts and makeup and
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: perfect outfit, and then it's just Ashley barking looking horrendous,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: like in pain, doubled over, laughing like laughing, going okay,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: which I don't know if that's a good or bad thing,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: ash But I'm sorry. I did bring me joy. Know
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: it brought me joy too. Honestly, I watched it. I
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: watched it, of course, and many times when I was
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: creating it, But then even yesterday, well reading comments, I
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: would find myself going back to rewatch it because like
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: people liked it. I was like, you see, I think,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: why do they love it? I watched it eight times.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I was again, oh my gosh, there really was more
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: gnarly things that I could have included. But like I
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: texted you, guys, I had a more extended like throw
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: up clip. I did not ever show any vomit, like
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: you don't see anything combing out of my mouth, but
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: like you can see you can see like I'm actually
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: like you looked heathen. You know what I mean? Yes,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: thank you for your honestly see A mean, this is
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: what I wanted to hear you like I want to.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I want to hear people say you look you're worse,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: because like that is honesty, and that is what I
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: say about myself. I don't need pleasant tries. It does
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: not make me feel better. It makes me feel like
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: you're lying to by first about you're very pretty actually
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: but you look beyond and number two like I've had
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: sleepovers with you, so I know that even when you
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: wake up you look pretty. So like you look so bad,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: like i'd say, you're still glowing. I'm just gonna keep
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: on that she's still glowing in my opinion, because you're
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: so funny, Amy Ben, you are very funny as well
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: for saying that. So anyway, yeah, okay, So what I
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: was saying was on TikTok when I had just a
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: tiny bit more of the barf bag scene, they flagged
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: it for graphic slash violent content. So when I put
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: it on Instagram, I was like, Okay, um, I guess
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I will just edit a little bit. There's like fudget
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: a bit so that nobody has to actually see the
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: hurl anyway. Anyway, so sorry we got distracted, Yes we did.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you guys what happened. And it was pretty rad.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: So Michelle Young, who I really liked when I met
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: her in person, that was my first time meeting her
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: in person, was coming into jingle Ball. So at the
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: last second they emailed us and said, hey, would you
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: guys want Clayton to cup And obviously my response was like, um,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: hell yes. So he wasn't allowed to do any interviews,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: but he could come and like take photos because I think,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: you know it's too early, He's not The show doesn't
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: from me until January three. Are you sure that they're
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: just not scared that we're going to be further convinced
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: he has no person? Because here's what I'll tell you.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: So I was a full masayer, like I was like,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know about this. I met him. So he
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: walked up and like he was so charming, and first
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: of all, he still had to have a mask on
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: and like so I couldn't even see his face yet,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: and he was so charming, charming in the eyes. Here's
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: what he reminds me of Chris Souls meets Ben Higgins.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: So he sort of has like the body type of Chris.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: It's awesome. Like I'm telling you, guys, I was not
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: sold and now I'm like DVR set so yes, second
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: of all, he was We had all these protocols where
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: you have to be like tested and vaccinated all these things,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: so he was allowed to take his mask off. So
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: then I saw the dreamy a smile, excellent teeth, Like
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you guys, the teeth and the smile was
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: it was just like sparkling, good personality. Like I only
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: got to talk to him for maybe, like I don't know,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: it's probably ten minutes. But here's what I thought was
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: super interesting. And I was not being flirty because I'm
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: a hundred years older than him, but I remember touching him,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: like I gave him like the pat on the arm
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: and like touched his like upper arm and lower arm,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: which I'm like, why am I doing that? And it's
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: because he's so cool and charming. M hm, You've never
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: touched my arm yes, I'm sure I have. But he
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: has the personality of Ben Higgins the body type that's
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: that's very strong statement. No, he has the body type
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: of crystal thinner, but like very tall, like very good
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: west Burly, carries trees, strong like yes, like that guy
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: is gonna be on the lift up every single one
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: of those girls with one strong like Lumberjack, strong like
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Mark Wahlberg, but tall. So so we should get behind
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: this now. I mean, we've never been a Clayton Hayter.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: We just have been confused or like a little bit
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: off on how this was such an easy choice. I'm
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: telling you, guys, I was not. I was like, I
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: don't know, so like I'm not saying I was, Yeah,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: this is the guy I was very I don't know,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: And now I have totally done a one eight. I'm like,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: this guy is the old school Bachelor that I loved,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Like reminds me of the ones like Bradwallmac Yes, but
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: better crystals like crystals meets Ben Higgins. Not as funny
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: as well, So I'm not gonna say well like not
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: ha ha, hilarious, charming like Ben kind there for the
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: right reasons. Dare I say so? Then I said, so,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I have heard that the season is very good, but
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: some as I hear that and I don't know if
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: it's actually true or if somebody's trying to trick me.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: So we get excited. So I said, I heard the
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: season's really good, and he goes for me or for television,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, that's that's promising for all
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: of them. So I felt, so here's what I'll say.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I'm going to watch, and i'd oh, my goodness, well
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: this changes things. We can usually trust Amy Sugarman on
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: her opinion because she gets a lot of inside scoop.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: She gets to meet a lot of these people, so
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: we can usually trust her. There's never been a bachelor
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I haven't met. Really, I've met every single bachelor from
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: the seventeen hundreds till now. And this guy definitely has
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: that thing. When he walks in the room, You're like, oh,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: like very celebrity like star. You know they say like
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: they suck the air out of the room. Well, of
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: course I was outside with like eighteen mass on, but
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: at the same time, I was like, yeah, this guy's
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: got it. He had a twinkle in his eye and
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: his smile was so dreamy. Great smile. Well, here's what
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I'm concerned about, because if you've met every bachelor since
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: and I'm the only one you've ever given a job,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I'm nervous that my job maybe up as of next year,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: never never been. You can just like, actually have some babies, puppies,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: please have kids at the same time. Well, actually, don't
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: do that. I don't know how we expedite this process. Amy,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the almost famous podcast U which
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: really missing or texture. Okay, all right, well let's wrap
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: up in the last part of the tell All, which
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: is when Michelle arrives. She does her pleasantries with Rodney
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: and with Wreck and you know, just you guys are great,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: like hope the best for you. The one she really
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: couldn't get behind was Jamie. She like she was like, no,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: not letting Jamie get away with this. Um, it's just yeah.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: She put her foot down. She said, no, this isn't okay.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Like you know, as we're talked about earlier that the
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: explaining part was really what shid, No, this is this
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: is not happening. We do have to because I know
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: we're closing up this segment. We do have a couple
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: just final notes here. Um, one. We do see the
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: sneak peak for the rest of the season. Uh, nothing
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: shocking there. The shocking part of the episode, the weird
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: maybe the weirdest part of the episode when I'm happy
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: about is Peter brings out pizza for everybody in the
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: cast and for the host and Michelle, who you know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: just as you said, Michelle was absolutely awesome during this
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: whole episode. She was just their first short period of time,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: but she looked beautiful. She handled herself well as she
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: has the whole season. But the pizza comes out, they
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: have a body to pizza and then all of a sudden,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Will and Peter are good friends friends. They hugged. What happened?
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: You know, look at what the power of pizza can do. Yes,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I mean that was sweet. It was sweet and and
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: and what I mean, come on, Peter just got a
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: commercial pretty much on ABC Prime Time for his pizza restaurant.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, who really won in this process? Oh, Peter
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: definitely one. Michelle said that it was. She said it
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: was good pizza too, So I mean I was wondering
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: how it lasted a cross country I was like, is
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: it really good? Right now? Does the dry eyes can
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: do ash well? Hey, um, we're gonna take a break here.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: When we come back, we are going to do bachelor headlines. Yes,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: it is time for bachelor headlines with our resident expert,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Ashley I connedtie well. A lot of these headlines are
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: around holding underwood, so we're gonna highlight a few of them.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: The first one is this, um, well, before we get
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: into it, actually, have you seen Colton's documentary? I did.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I watched it all. I watched it all pretty fast.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: It's only three hours. Um, I really I enjoyed it.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I think it was really good storytelling. There's a lot
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: of depth, there's some good messages in there. Um. The
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: one about the episode about Faith was very interesting and
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: how he has navigated being a Christian while also admitting
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: to himself that he's gay. And then I also found
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: the episode where these guys were trying to like kind
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: of integrate him into the gay community and he just
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: was like uncomfortable with jumping in like that. So I
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: would I would definitely say give it a chance, to
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: definitely say, like, you know, watch it if it's not
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: your cup of tea whatever, But like I if I
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: was good. I haven't watched it, but but there are.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: There's a few things I understand people having issues with. Okay,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: first off, like we have to say, like I want
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: to say every time, nothing excuses what he did with
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: this treatment of Cassie, and he acknowledges this in the docuseries.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: He also brings up Cassie a lot, and that kind
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: of brings us to our first headline, Cassie doesn't really
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: like this very much. No, it doesn't. Well, I haven't
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: seen it. Um. You know, Colton came out this week
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: and said that nobody from Batch Nation reached out to
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: him kind of after coming out, and that's just not true.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: So look kind of erupted my gut a little bit
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: because I know you're kind of like, oh, well, I
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: don't want to watch it now, Yeah kind of. I
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: mean maybe that's pride, maybe that's I need to get
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: over that, and maybe I will. But you know, I
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: know of multiple people that did, including myself, um, including
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: friends of mine that reached out to him. So I
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: don't know why he's saying that, Like, I just don't
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: get it, and I don't know if that's a good headline.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it makes the rest of us
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: look unsupportive or what said. He said, Chris Harrison was
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: the only one who reached out, and I knew that
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: you had, and I had a couple other names in
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: mind that probably did as well. I mean I sent
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: him a book about like how you navigate, like from
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: buddy of mine, about how you navigate being a Christian
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: and coming out. So, like, I just don't understand this
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: stuff sometimes, Like it's like, are you just trying to
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: make everybody else look bad and for people to feel bad?
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Because like COOLM I know people who did, including myself,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: and so that's just a lie, Like it is you
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: live so close together too. Yeah, I mean, so I
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: don't understand that. But I haven't watched it yet. Here's
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: the first headline. Cassie Randolph thinks it's inappropriate for Cool
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: and Underwood to speak out about their relationship. This according
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: to Eat. Before I read the headline, I do want
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: to say there was one lingering question I left the
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: series questioning after I was done watching the series, and
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: that is why didn't he reach out to Cassie and
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: say I'm gay for before coming out publicly? Because there's
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: this scene in it where they like, he and his
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: friend and his dad debate whether or not Cassie is
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: going to reach out the day of the g m
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: A the g m A interview, and Colton and his
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: dad don't think so. But I'm just like, why didn't
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: you reach out to her before this? That's crazy? He
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: does allude to him not being able to speak about
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: certain things publicly and maybe because of legal issues he
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: can't even reach out to Cassie herself. But I don't know,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: but this is what Cassie says. Um Or sources say
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: that Cassie feels um. She doesn't love that her name
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: keeps being brought up. This is a source exclusively told
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: E this. She has definitely moved on from that time
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: of her life. She thinks that it's inappropriate that Colton
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: has continued continuously spoken about there were ship, but understands
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: it's part of his journey. She um, she went through
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: a lot, They went through a lot together, and she
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: prefers not to talk about that chapter and to keep
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: moving forward in her life. She's really happy right now
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: and is in a healthy relationship with Cassie. Has not
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: spoken to Coltman in a very long time and they
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: do not have a friendship. Yeah. Well, um, you know,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: there's there's Obviously Cassie is affected by all this and
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: she is definitely entitled to that opinion. Well. Uh, next
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: simeline is Colton Underwood goes Instagram official with boyfriend Jordan's
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: c Brown to celebrate his birthday. Disaccined to e yes.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: So he is, um a political consultant. We've talked about
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: this before when they were spotted in Hawaii a couple
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: of months ago. Um, this is his boyfriend Jordan, who
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: seems that he's been with for at least a couple
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: of months now. They say that they're in love and
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: they're very happy. And on his birthday Colton did on
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: his story he said this happy birthday to my dog
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: loving family man cornfed love in another photo and then
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: um the two of them with the dogs another photo
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: and um, recently Colton has said that they're very happy
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: and very in love and uh yeah again have been
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: together for several months now. Well, moving on from Colton,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: we do have a headline that hurts all of us here.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: It's the sad thing Dean Angler and Klin Moren their
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: dog Pappy, hardest day of their lives. We know Pappy, well,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: we loved Pappy. A Ton happy, was the sweetest. We
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: got to hang out with him on multiple um like
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: sleepover occasions. Uh. Caitlin was talking to me at your
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: wedding about how she felt like she didn't that she
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: felt like she didn't have much more time with Pappy.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: They did. They were told when they first adopted him
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: two and two over two years ago that he probably
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: only had a year at best, but he got two
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: years with them, And they wrote on Instagram today our
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: sweet little man left our earth. He took his final
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: breaths in the arms of his loving mother. Um. We
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: weren't there for the beginning or the middle of his life,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: but we were there for what we believe to be
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: the most important part, the end. And he was just
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: treated so amazingly. They were the best dog parents that
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: that boy was showered with love and adventure. We love
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: pa care. Yeah. Well, um, that's tough, that's really hard. Well,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: um onto then switching gears is a hard transition, but
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: it's onto something really exciting. Somebody that was on our
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: season of the Bachelor Season twenty bachel Nations, Amanda Stanton
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: is engaged to boyfriend Michael after less than one year together.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Disaccording to US Weekly, Yeah, we are so happy for
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Amanda and Michael. If you guys follow her on Instagram,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: you know that Michael is very doting towards the girls,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: her daughters, and he's also hilarious and he's a great chef,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: and he seems to bring out the best in Amanda.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: She seems so happy, she said on Instagram. I'm still
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: freaking out and I'm shaking. Can't wait to tell you everything.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: All the love from you all means so much. They
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: He also gave the daughters rings at the proposal, which
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: is really cute, which is like, I'm I don't want
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: to just spend the rest of my life with your mom,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: but I want to spend the rest of my life
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: with you guys too, which is just I'm sure those
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: girls loved it. Well, congratulations both of them. Amanda is
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: one of our favorites and it's great to see her
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: smiling with joy. Uh somebody all smiling with joy right now?
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Is Batch nation favorite Wells Adams to host pizza competition
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Best in Dough on Hulu. This according to The Rap,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I know it's a ten episodes unscripted series. Um that
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: will be uh you know, talking about they'll be It's
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: for pizza obsessed competitors from all walks of life to
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: showcase their pizza slinging skills. The battle it out for
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: ten tho dollars. So basically, if you're a pizza lover,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: it's a food show. It's a food competition about pizza
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: and who makes the best pie. That's pretty awesome. Yeah,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be awesome at it. Well, super happy and
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I do. There's not a headline on here, but well
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: As Adams spent some time in Orlando just this week,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: UM doing media for an upcoming golf tourment they're gonna
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: be playing in. The golf terment is sponsored by Hilton
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Hilton Hotels. Uh it is uh a LPGA meets celebrity
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: golf tournament will be aired on the Golf Channel in NBC.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: And UH, Wells I played in this last two years.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I've never had a friend there. Um, I've always kind
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: of been like the one non athlete. UH and non
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: big time actor. Wells is playing it this year, and
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: he came out publicly i'd like to announce and said
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: that his only goal is to beat me. Well, I
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: will tell you this right now, for any of you,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not. He's really good. Now, he's really good. It's
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: gonna take a really good four days for me to
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: beat him. But it doesn't mean that I'm not gonna
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: try my hardest. And I'm gonna tell you this right
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: now publicly, wells Adams, I'm gonna do everything I can
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: to embarrass you, embarrass you, make you cry on that
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: golf course. So in January, you're gonna see this in NBC. NBC,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: please check it out. It's gonna be a boasted Hey,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: al right, enough about me, onto Clayton, our next bachelor.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: He said he did find love on Good Morning America.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Now we know that could be with three people. That's true.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: No shame here, Hey, no judgment, buddy, you do you
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: you figured it out later? Yeah, he said, I did
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: find love. I was a little skeptical, skeptical going into
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: the whole journey, but I was so pleasantly surprised that
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: things worked out uh much differently than I had thought. Um.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: He says that he's excited too. This is interesting. He's
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: excited to watch it back and to have everybody else
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: watched it as well. Not many bachelors. Sounds terrible, sounds
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: like my worst nightmare. He said that he did to
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: one of the best things was getting comfortable with being
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable and stepping out of his comfort zone. There you go, Clayton.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Good luck buddy, He's gonna do great. I can't wait
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: from come on, I want to meet him, um so
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: I can get a little bit of idea of who
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: he is. I do think he's gonna be I mean,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I do think he is a great dude. I just
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: I'm still shocked at the process at which they went
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: to picking him and how easy it was him to
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: pick him. Well, uh, somebody else that we love so dearly.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: She spent time with me at Bachelorife on stage. Age
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: so Talented came to the wedding Bachelor lum Sydney Latoaco
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: announced his engagement to fiance Nick. One and done, she
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: says this According to people, Yeah, this year she moved
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: to Cincinnati to be with her boyfriend. She says one
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: and done because she's never had a boyfriend before, and
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: like me, basically she had one and that's it and
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: she's happy and she's done. Um. She says, love you
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: forever in the Instagram um So, we started talking back
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: and forth via via Instagram and then texting and then
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: eventually face timing for three months before meeting in person.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: They met in um August and they decided to take
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: the relationship to the next level and she moved in
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: with him on a whim pretty fast, and there we go.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: The rest is history. Hey, she was with him on
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: tour with you right, No, she met him right now tour.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Super pumped for her. She's the best lover dearly.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: She actually got up on stage in my wedding and
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: showed the whole crowd her dancing skills. It was pretty impressive.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: I will say, uh, final headline of today we talked
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: about earlier and we're gonna talk about it again because
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: it's worth mentioning. Ashley and Jared's new cafe, Ottery's, opens
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: with coffee treats and a nod to the Bachelor. Congratulations
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Ashley and Jared on this opening. Thank you so pumped
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: for you. Guys. We talked about earlier, but I just
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: want to mention it again. Well, hey, um everybody, that's
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: it for today's episode. I would like to once again
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  Speaker 1: mentioned make it a headline, make it a thing, blow
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