Latest / The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast / Bonus: Athletics LLC S3 E10 'NCAA Outdoor meet wrap up' June 17, 2022
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- 0:00It's bonus time, we're honored Athletics, LLC would allow us to
- 0:03present to you the audio version of their weekly Friday Night,
- 0:06YouTube series. Let's get to and see what the
- 0:08crew has in store this week. Recording is in progress,
- 0:42recording is in progress, because we are finally kind of
- 0:46at home. Kind of.
- 0:49We are at home, but I don't know if any of us are back down from
- 0:53our high of the meat called ncaa's whether you're expecting
- 0:57or coaching. It was this one was a doozy.
- 1:00I think everyone can say that, like, lots of ups and downs, and
- 1:03unexpected turns. So, welcome back for an episode
- 1:07of Athletics, Loc. To go over all of that and
- 1:11relive those four days all over again.
- 1:15Eek eek, but I think sir Lucius does that gracefully.
- 1:23I don't think it's that hard for him to be
- 1:43good for you, good for you. I think this definitely neat
- 1:46worthy Championship, worthy hangover.
- 1:48So, uh, I think you're allowed The governor.
- 1:54How are you tonight sir I'm really well just, you know,
- 2:00readjusting from a two-hour equal to our change for, you
- 2:06know, 20 a week and you know every night from 2 a.m. to 1
- 2:13a.m. and I won't be that. But Just getting back into the
- 2:22regular form. Oh man, Clyde, how you doing?
- 2:28It's lucious is world. We just previously, we just hold
- 2:32the chair down for him, we just make sure it doesn't fly away or
- 2:37hold the umbrella and you are getting case.
- 2:40Love it, Lamar just Lamar. Gosh, reading is fundamental.
- 2:44How are you tonight? Birdman hand, robe.
- 2:51I wish I had more people to talk trash to over the last few days
- 2:55because, you know, as you all know, those who are in my inner
- 3:00circle, I ride for y'all. So trust him, believe I was
- 3:03looking for some people to talk trash to over the course of this
- 3:07weekend, but but it's okay. It was good.
- 3:09I was in my house by myself. I wasn't in my house.
- 3:12That's not why. I was in.
- 3:13I was in a hotel room by myself, talking, all kinds of nonsense.
- 3:17Being disrespectful at dinner tables.
- 3:19Looking at Scores are like, you don't even coach track, shut up.
- 3:25I mean, isn't that always the case?
- 3:28Yeah, look, look this weekend was fun.
- 3:35I mean, look, we're all look, we are all friends of the man
- 3:38himself, right? So we know kind of like what's
- 3:41going on behind the scenes and how he's thinking those
- 3:44wonderful things and honestly, this was like the most awesome
- 3:47movie ever to be behind the scenes up.
- 3:51It was just fun to watch unfold. Should have experienced it in
- 3:59the stadium, man. Oh man.
- 4:01Oh, man knows these probably good that I wasn't in the
- 4:04stadium because I would have found some people to talk trash
- 4:06to, oh my goodness. Anyways, moving on.
- 4:10I mean, I'm, just, I'm honest, at least, I can be honest.
- 4:14So let's nothing else. You can definitely do that.
- 4:17Yes, yes, yes. So, if you live in Iraq and
- 4:21don't know this quite yet, so delicious.
- 4:23And the Florida Gators won both of them.
- 4:26Use and the women's side of the NCAA outdoor championships.
- 4:30So, round of applause. If you haven't done it, already
- 4:34pat on the back. If you haven't done it already,
- 4:36all these things. And that's the truly just the
- 4:41cherry on top because the whipped cream, and three scoops
- 4:45of ice cream, and the peanuts, and the chocolate sauce, and the
- 4:48bananas, and every group, guess that's just like that.
- 4:58Man. I mean, kudos to the team that
- 5:00themselves for your leadership, for your stuff leadership, but
- 5:04everything that everyone did to make that such an impactful
- 5:07performance was awesome. And that's not to say no one
- 5:10else did anything either. But I mean the step out of the
- 5:15shadow of the Florida Gators. This was a tall feet for most
- 5:18programs this weekend. So good stuff.
- 5:22So now, let's talk about it. Okay, now, let's talk about it
- 5:25all. Good, bad and indifferent.
- 5:28Good, bad and ugly, I should say.
- 5:30Where do we start? I mean, so we start at the short
- 5:33and just extend out to keep it in order.
- 5:35Yeah, yeah. 100 100 meter dash, has sheesh.
- 5:42Wow! It, let's start with the ladies,
- 5:45and, you know, I'm no one's surprise amiss Alfred.
- 5:52But there was some Carnage behind her, that was surprising.
- 5:55There's a people that we thought would run a lot better.
- 5:58I think probably the most disappointing performance was
- 5:59Miss Jefferson. We know after in the
- 6:01performance, a lot of people thought she challenge for the
- 6:03title and think she was seven or eight.
- 6:05Who's that was a cute at all. Yeah, you know, listen, I've
- 6:11been driving that bandwagon hard all year and honestly, without
- 6:19being in the room to know the play, As we like to say, he just
- 6:24looked it. Just looked like the moment was
- 6:26too big for her across the board.
- 6:28And I hope, I hope, you know, I hope there's something more to
- 6:31it. Still a hell of a season, her
- 6:35and her crew, and coaches should still obviously.
- 6:38And I'm sure they are be incredibly proud of that young
- 6:40lady but seventh in the hundred. And then, of course, last in the
- 6:44200, just look like the moment was a little too big but that's
- 6:47okay because she'll be back. Yes, she will.
- 6:53And you come on back but personally I was surprised not
- 6:58surprised that the Alfred wanted because clearly she's good
- 7:02enough to win it, but to see her put it together in that moment.
- 7:08Was a surprise and props to her. She deserved it.
- 7:12She ran a well-executed race. I think, you know, start to
- 7:16finish here in the best race. Clearly, it was impressive.
- 7:23You know, I felt like she won that race from 20 to 50.
- 7:26Yeah, that's segment of the race was better than Cambodian.
- 7:28Kim actually came back at her hard last week, last week.
- 7:31Yeah, but that's segment were Alfred accelerated better than
- 7:35anybody in the range from 20 to 22 15.
- 7:37I think that's what one ritual. I think, I mean, I'll correct me
- 7:43if I'm wrong. No matter who you picked.
- 7:47That race all year. Felt like the it felt like the
- 7:52top-end people favor, you know, obviously Abby Solera Barnes,
- 7:59whoever it felt like the top-end people would ultimately win out
- 8:04and olds and it came down to the people, we know to be the two
- 8:08best starters, just put it away earlier.
- 8:12And, you know, we talked about this and Championship racing is
- 8:14some people that it executes the race model and those to execute
- 8:17Is Mom there, anybody else? You know, it was clear.
- 8:20I mean favor, just wasn't herself in 100 at all, you know,
- 8:24she wasn't as bad as Miss Jefferson, but she was informed
- 8:26or behind and I'll declare made the fun, right?
- 8:31Well, I'll say this, you know, the the what was truly
- 8:38impressive, was the fact that 76 woman ran Sub sub 11 He sings.
- 8:48Yeah. And you know, I think I think we
- 8:51all know at this point that the final day is more about
- 8:58attrition Then anything else? I mean if you're going through
- 9:05like racing in terms of like just being free and just letting
- 9:10it out, you know, the coaches are telling the athletes.
- 9:13Hey, you have to run through the line.
- 9:15There's no joking around its top two in the next fastest times,
- 9:19you have to let it out. So when you look at what
- 9:23happened in the semis, I mean poof I mean that that's that was
- 9:28really impressive in the final. It was about nerves who held
- 9:34their nerve who was able to keep themselves together and again
- 9:39you know, I don't think Julian Alfred's race was a prettiest
- 9:43race in the world but she did what was necessary to hold on,
- 9:48you know? And and that's you know that's
- 9:51that's what I will say about that.
- 9:53I mean to 10 90s. I mean, took come on.
- 9:59That is that is very, very impressive stuff.
- 10:03So we talked about on the show last week, know the days to be
- 10:06there were with an Thursday. It was gonna be hot.
- 10:09Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
- 10:12Melissa Jefferson. I mean, I just, you know, give
- 10:14them you when it comes down to the nitty-gritty, again, I don't
- 10:21know that she held herself together, you know, and was able
- 10:24to put together a race, you know, as you said Sir, lucious.
- 10:27I mean, you have to be able to put together your race when he
- 10:30counts and I just didn't I didn't see that from from that
- 10:33young lady. But overall, I mean very, very
- 10:38quality final. Yes.
- 10:42And we've seen that in Championship races at every
- 10:44level, whether it be at high school state meet, whether it be
- 10:46at the world champion for Olympic level.
- 10:48It's the people that light up and executed a high level that
- 10:52they do. Well, I mean, I think that you
- 10:54talked about, like you go back to the Hunter, Your files in
- 10:57London for the men and the women that was what most impressed
- 11:01about those two races was because everybody got after it
- 11:04in on the big stage and very rarely does that happen.
- 11:11Well yeah I I definitely think and I'm not going to belabor
- 11:15this one. I definitely want us to continue
- 11:17to move on but I it was a huge advantage to be part of it.
- 11:22Be part of a team battle on the final day.
- 11:27Right because it's it definitely helps with the nerves and that
- 11:31definitely helps with you. Getting it getting out of your
- 11:34own head because in some ways you can just put that off on
- 11:39like the team like team needs me.
- 11:41So I must go right and that helps and it was it's just it it
- 11:47was for sure. In this particular case, a huge
- 11:50advantage to be part of the team battle.
- 11:54Yeah. All right next, it's always
- 11:56always better to be there with the crew, right?
- 11:59Yeah. So the men, no yy-you laughing
- 12:06Clyde. Why you laughing?
- 12:08I'm laughing because honestly, this I told you, I mean, people
- 12:14know I said it on the show last week.
- 12:16I don't have anybody in the meat.
- 12:17I drove up there to Eugene just to be a super fan of the sport.
- 12:22Right? And you know, when you don't
- 12:25have anything to coach and you can just sit there and watch
- 12:29it's an experience that I'm sure.
- 12:31None of us have done in a really long time but you know, it's
- 12:35good for the soul to get out there.
- 12:36I have not enjoyed watching 100 meter final as much as I did.
- 12:43That one in a really, really Long time and for all the
- 12:48dramatics of it, right? I mean, listen, it's not.
- 12:53I'm honestly not trying to be paid Michael Williams, losing
- 12:58losing that race, the way he did.
- 13:01It's one of the biggest chokes I've seen and I'm a huge fan.
- 13:06I'm a huge fan. Like that would no one saw that
- 13:10coming. That's the surprise of the me.
- 13:13That's the surprising to me the dudes 986 Winley.
- 13:17Can't finish sixth seventh. Whatever the hell you do?
- 13:20I mean yeah I mean no question about that and and like I will
- 13:26never be part of calling someone the choke of the meat because
- 13:30I've had that said about me. Bye bye.
- 13:33Dwight stones on global television.
- 13:35So like I won't ever say that but I'll just say this.
- 13:39No matter how many times I played that race in my head, the
- 13:42snapshot at 30 meters has Michael Williams, 10 meters
- 13:45ahead of the head of Joe family. So when Joe is less than me was
- 13:52in 10 meters behind stuff, I didn't you didn't hear what I
- 13:56just said. I said the snapshot in my mind.
- 14:00My Ford, the race. I pollinate has upright and Joe
- 14:08making This massive come back and and, you know, gets tipped
- 14:11at the line. What are, you know you got the
- 14:12hero moments in your head, right?
- 14:14But I can tell you this, when at 30 meters, Joe is two and a
- 14:20half. Maybe three meters at the very
- 14:22most from the front, I literally am yelling in the restaurant.
- 14:26It's over, it's over me too. And no one knows what I'm
- 14:31yelling at because I'm yelling at my phone because I'm watching
- 14:35the meat on my phone but I'm like, it's a rat.
- 14:39There's no shot. Sorry, I just watch, let me tell
- 14:46you where I was sitting and other areas.
- 14:51People is Jelena. Same thing.
- 14:52Hmm. Like it was it was some version
- 14:55of oh my God, it's over WTF. You could audibly hear it?
- 15:03Yeah, because no one Joe look like yo, like Pac-Man.
- 15:08He looked like Pac-Man just gobbling up the ghost.
- 15:15I want to say this to the people who are still including RG3, who
- 15:24was critical and somebody would teach you how to start.
- 15:28Write the name was 1022 a year ago now, he's 10 flat.
- 15:34And if you want to be a student of the sport, Joseph humble a it
- 15:38is billed as never going to be the first guy from the past,
- 15:42he's never going to be you know, and if he is in a very low
- 15:46quality race, but you up, if you are smart enough to watch the
- 15:49race model the man ran that was a very complete waste model.
- 15:54He accelerated exactly what I asked you to do in a rented
- 15:56flat. Not like him in the race.
- 15:57Went to three right there was a time when 10 flat was know, if
- 16:02you go back and look at it in the morning, I talked about that
- 16:04wasn't very Louis asked type of performance.
- 16:07Yes, you know, no question right.
- 16:10You know, and so like and so the whole key here is the
- 16:13understanding and Joe and you're standing that you don't have to
- 16:16be the first guy to 30 want to be the first guy to 100 because
- 16:19when he was trying to be the first guy to 30 is Darryl said
- 16:22he was 10 meters behind at 10 meters.
- 16:26That's the best. That is the best.
- 16:34That's the same thing you know like they just give the guy
- 16:36breaking them guys that double NCAA champion and all you want
- 16:39to talk about is kids. Some I could teach him how to
- 16:40start clearly. I could teach to start cousin
- 16:42other guy would leave the 60 minutes.
- 16:53I just know this much, I just noticed much because I hate my
- 16:56job but somebody who's who love science and will produce numbers
- 17:00Force, this is going to come out at some point time I Thomas you
- 17:04Joseph Campbell, a broke the friggin mole from 60 to 70, 70
- 17:08to 80, 80 to 90 and 90 to 100 it.
- 17:10When those numbers come out, all of us are going to be like, nah,
- 17:14no, shocked. Because we all see it like, we
- 17:17all have ocular proof. So we're just waiting for the
- 17:20numbers to prove out what we see, right?
- 17:23Like those dudes aren't slowing down.
- 17:26Like what Joe does in the last 50 meters, like he's in a class
- 17:31of like three him Carl. and bolt like it's a hold like that there
- 17:37are different breed of human and I will tell you this everybody
- 17:42should be happy that he's only running 10 flat currently
- 17:46because as the front gets more and more rehearsed, the back
- 17:52will never go anywhere and Big League will tell you I said this
- 17:56yesterday we were watching youth track kids, run, little eight
- 18:01nine, ten year olds and I I told her jokingly, like, get out all
- 18:05your analyze and I'll tell you, which kid decide, right?
- 18:07We watched some ten-year-old kids run and I cannot, I cannot
- 18:11make this up. There was a kid running and like
- 18:13lean-to, they got to like 40 then 50.
- 18:16They were all even and then he just stepped away from them.
- 18:18Little kid. Not even like super big and I
- 18:21said, sign that kid. And she's like, what are you
- 18:23talking about? I was like, listen finishers
- 18:26never. Stop finishing.
- 18:29Best fact, this might be too early lucious.
- 18:33I may not have a decompressed properly from all these
- 18:36Shenanigans, but to that point sir Lucius in that race, or in
- 18:43rehearsal. How many steps does mr.
- 18:45Van do they take 400 meters? I don't know, I haven't looked
- 18:54at it. I haven't looked at it, but pull
- 18:58that tape up and go review it to LaMar's point.
- 19:02I bet money he somewhere like 42, He's somewhere in a lot.
- 19:10He's somewhere between every other world record holder, which
- 19:14is 44 and bolt, that's 41. So, Jim Marrs point it ain't 44,
- 19:22ain't no way it's 44 and if he's 10 flat running 41 42 and he
- 19:30still a baby, don't get it twisted.
- 19:31He still bake it. Hey man, that dude one of one
- 19:36right there. He's a different cat man.
- 19:42So yes, you know, one of the biggest myths, know, Is when you
- 19:48talk about, you know, what a winning race model is and I'm
- 19:56going to save it for the people in the back.
- 19:59It is not about the person who reacts first, it's about the
- 20:05person who sets up the race the best And it for every individual
- 20:13that runs a race how they set up the race looks different, if it
- 20:19doesn't matter who you line up next to each other, everybody
- 20:22has their own thing that they do, right?
- 20:26And we just have a situation where mr.
- 20:28Family is extremely unique And it's pretty simple.
- 20:35It's a pretty simple, race model.
- 20:36We've seen it with bolt and literally.
- 20:39All he needs to do is be in the mix.
- 20:42It is that simple? And I just look forward to
- 20:46what's coming because as he gets more confident in this, I mean
- 20:5141 and a half mean, there we go. Look, listen, folks, people need
- 21:00to understand something, the people who consistently watch
- 21:02the show, you need to all go tell five other people to watch
- 21:05the show because I want you to understand something.
- 21:07The brain matter that is on this show, he is not normal.
- 21:11We are teaching you and telling you things that actually matter.
- 21:15Don't just go to the meats and be a fan, be a student.
- 21:20Nice number numbers matter, their track is math 45.
- 21:24I want to I want to say this to like but let's not go through
- 21:27every event because we'll be alright.
- 21:29And then I'm going to do you know
- 22:19but all you had to do was watch, Abby go flying down the back,
- 22:22stretch in the semi-final of the football I wanted you like
- 22:38I just want to throw this out really quick every starter in
- 22:42under 11, under 22 and under 49 seconds at the national meet.
- 22:47Yes everybody listening. Oh ok.
- 22:50All you sprint coaches. Who like you?
- 22:52If you want to go run better he's like look you can't have
- 22:55that kind of range unless you run around.
- 22:57Track of time or two here are seven race of the weekend.
- 23:00She slipped 48. Now, insane.
- 23:02The 89 and say wait for the wind mind you because they were out
- 23:07of the race when she got. Yeah, that's not to mention the
- 23:11compressed schedule on the final day.
- 23:13We always say anything. In the thing about it is is like
- 23:15it was a way she did it. It wasn't more.
- 23:17Like she went out and just ran as hard as she can and die.
- 23:21She's very methodical, you know, it was like every hundred she's
- 23:25got a little bit closer, a little bit close.
- 23:26Zur, the 120 go. She's like I think I'm gonna go
- 23:29get it. It, did she ever you know?
- 23:31So so very very impressive. All right, I think that we and
- 23:36the track audience at large, do it.
- 23:38Oh a minute here to the Arc of a bee season, right?
- 23:43Because Abby started off the end or year on fire, set, National
- 23:48records and off events. And there's a contingent of
- 23:52people are like is she going to make it through?
- 23:55Then she sets records and win, ncaa's indoors.
- 23:58And it's like, but is she going to make it through?
- 24:01And then respectfully favor drops, the hammer and takes the
- 24:07National Record em ever since then rightfully.
- 24:12So it's been a legitimate debate over at the end of the day, when
- 24:17the day, who's it going to be? Because understand this going
- 24:22into that 200 meter, final favors the best ever ever best
- 24:27ever. And it's not like it was a whack
- 24:30record, she broke the record was way too.
- 24:32Oh yeah, right. So it's like they're, you know,
- 24:36there's been a lot of back and forth and a lot of crap that I
- 24:39don't really like to get into about the disrespect and all
- 24:42this other stuff, at the end of the day, Abby kicked in the
- 24:47door, ripped her seat out and took it from everybody.
- 24:51Yep. 21800 that is a world-class Mark that connect her?
- 24:59A metal can continue to hold it together for just a little while
- 25:05longer and at this point. No one should be doubting that
- 25:09her and her training crew. Tim in the crew can get that
- 25:13done. She looks phenomenal and I mean
- 25:17he's my favorite red, great 22:05 but curb stomped it wasn't
- 25:22close like like the fourth for his stomach lead in history.
- 25:25Yeah right like what's my name is because we got slapped to
- 25:31sleep sometimes. Right.
- 25:37Like sometimes you go to the meat and somebody just came
- 25:41ready is nothing you can do about it right?
- 25:44Look Abby. Abby Steiner was not losing that
- 25:46200 to anybody. No, she wasn't.
- 25:50And look, let's give credit where credit's due clearly 10
- 25:54and her and you know the training staff, they figure some
- 25:56things out. No, they kept her help me to
- 25:58kept her fresh because she was on fire all weekend because he
- 26:01was, you watch the final in the, for my one, she was lying.
- 26:05Yes, yeah. Lying on the bed and almost and
- 26:08they almost pulled that off. Yeah, they're right there.
- 26:12Yeah, so we don't we don't really need to spend too much
- 26:17time on the 2-incher for the men, but It was really nice.
- 26:24I mean, really funny. Listen, let's just say it like
- 26:28this. If it was possible for me to
- 26:32place a wager, I would have literally bet all of the money
- 26:35I've ever seen in my entire life, that Joe is going to move
- 26:39into under. If I was allowed to gamble, I
- 26:44would have emptied the bank account on that one emptied, the
- 26:46bank account, right? Like look, don't don't give me
- 26:49the eyes. I just want to double my money.
- 26:53Now we can get off at because I there there's a race it's the
- 26:57women's 400 that I personally would love to discuss for the
- 27:03same Petty reasons that I got my prediction right indoors.
- 27:08No one was really picking to meet the digs except maybe this
- 27:13panel except maybe them, okay? What do we say on this, on this
- 27:19show all the time, like history is the best predictor of the
- 27:22future. When we say that all the time,
- 27:25like, literally, folks, it happened the same way Outdoors
- 27:29as indoors, the script didn't change.
- 27:32Nope, under race. Ready to go when it matters
- 27:35doesn't win. NC doesn't win scc's.
- 27:38In and looks the best and winds Outdoors like it's like she did
- 27:42the same thing indoors as out. Yes, maybe maybe your coach has
- 27:48a clue. I mean her closes.
- 27:51I because she only comes in coaching all the time, she's
- 27:54phenomenal of that. He does a very good job of
- 27:57coaching. No, no, she's not phenomenal,
- 28:00she's too lethal. Before the semi I said to her
- 28:17look you you're gonna have to run certain point because
- 28:21they're going to make it like you can't go out here and you
- 28:24can't go out and run for a second because then you end up
- 28:25tired and you got to put the bubble and she the clock stopped
- 28:29at 5008 and she looked at the clock life is that right?
- 28:33You know, until afterwards when I was better, but it back I'm
- 28:35like how that feels because that was really easy.
- 28:39No, I'm like, okay. And then before the final, she
- 28:43said, what should I do? I might go in the race on the
- 28:46same race model. Just go a little bit earlier
- 28:49than she did with after that when she was just like man I
- 28:53just pretty good. It was a plan all along she and
- 28:56I talked about him like he's going to take some lumps along
- 28:58the way but you know, and it's hard when you see people under
- 29:0249 and 50 points and all that stuff, earlier on, and you run a
- 29:05fifty, one 2051 three, I just got to trust it.
- 29:09And she did. So, once again, here we are in
- 29:15June, and do we remember anything that happened in April?
- 29:21I know, I do not, I mean, look, the week of the SEC meet indoors
- 29:35and out, right? Like everybody's food riding and
- 29:39Blah, blah blah. And then two weeks later, the
- 29:42title goes to the same same young lady in.
- 29:44Like, no disrespect. But like nobody remembers one.
- 29:47Yes. He see me.
- 29:48Because it wasn't the last me like that.
- 29:51I wish people would understand that like, be in Beth's last
- 29:55really, and truly is was memorable.
- 29:59It just is. Just kissed.
- 30:05Very few people ever have an undefeated season, so I don't
- 30:07even know why people bother to try like, just go and do your
- 30:10job. But speaking of undefeated
- 30:12Seasons try cutting, you haven't had one boy, boy.
- 30:17That was that was nice. Wow, that was and I told him I
- 30:21said look I said you know if you don't start present at her too
- 30:24late the records gone. Yeah man, he just stands up.
- 30:29He just kind of sit down and press a little bit because the
- 30:31record me and kudos to Eric repressive right?
- 30:35You so much when you have one. So it's kind of like it's kind
- 30:43of like the Williams situation, right?
- 30:45When you have an overwhelming favorite tray.
- 30:49Absolutely was the overwhelming favorite trays?
- 30:53History has been if the pressure is on what's going to happen.
- 30:57And the LSU kids that hell with all of that.
- 31:00I'm going to find out and ran a ran a brilliant, right?
- 31:03Yes, he did. When Trey hit five, I was like,
- 31:07oh my God. No.
- 31:10And to his credit, he got himself back together and won
- 31:13the race and got the championship 13th.
- 31:15Let you know how many people have actually done, right?
- 31:18When you, when you tie Reynaldo Nehemiah, take a bath house,
- 31:22right? Enough said, right, right.
- 31:24Yeah, but he absolutely threw away the record of him.
- 31:28He said he's got a close race interview, he had him.
- 31:35We appreciate him. Let us, let us keep it for a
- 31:37little while longer. Well, what year is the LSU kid?
- 31:42Because he's done. Okay, well then there you have
- 31:46it for a while then I think So that you think that, you know,
- 31:52you also think about the corner, her to riches mean, Brandon
- 31:56Wilson mean dominant is always cooking three inches and some
- 32:00change and then squirrel, I mean, you know that the Mars guy
- 32:06right, squirrel, you know, we know he's a bra and he can never
- 32:12get me a hug support before the semi-finals on the ratio of Y
- 32:18and brown, like, I know you. So you know, I don't know this,
- 32:24maybe Lucius can confirm or deny or whatever, but the season is
- 32:30squirrel have was bad. Yes.
- 32:34Until it wasn't right here, right?
- 32:36And many, he crossed the line and goes like this.
- 32:39I'm like, oh well, that's what he was doing, exactly?
- 32:45Yeah, he was here. For Tom and Lamar said and then
- 32:59what Tamara verified it, but she thought it was as well.
- 33:02And then like two days later, they go back and let you and he
- 33:04crossed when he got back. So, yeah, okay.
- 33:08Also the hooks were coming out. There's no doubt about that.
- 33:15I think we will all as versus we will all Being with me on this.
- 33:20We do not endorse or condone during the season Olivia who
- 33:28know better, pull it off like you do not exactly.
- 33:31Is the general consensus, don't do it.
- 33:34Please do not do it but if you do not do it.
- 33:37Yeah, don't do that. It just speaks to the talent of
- 33:47squirrel. Also, speaks to, you know, I
- 33:50think many Brazil's is primary coach and the resiliency of
- 33:55Benny was driving me crazy. We talked about it.
- 33:58He's like no one. I figured it out yet.
- 34:00Adjust some things and he said, hey, you know, not you're done
- 34:03with that, we'll get you back to where you need to be, you know,
- 34:06because you know, I think that squirrels are generational
- 34:08talent and I think the bigger picture is for him to be a world
- 34:13championship in liquid. I have been down the road and
- 34:16it'll be interesting to see. I'm not someone so many think
- 34:18he's not coming to you as this year because he's not sure he's
- 34:22prepared but I think if that's the truth, I think it might be
- 34:24smart. Yeah, yeah.
- 34:26Let's get healthy. Because that dude is the Future.
- 34:29No, he gives us a, you know, three or four headed monster and
- 34:33out of it. Yeah man.
- 34:37So can I ask you good? Because I know she had a
- 34:42front-row seat. I wasn't sitting there.
- 34:44Uh-huh. The men's triple jump.
- 34:46Okay, cool. Okay, so before you say that
- 34:54when you talk about it, like the line of the meat for me on
- 35:00Tuesday, Joe and I were on that back, the new strip, right?
- 35:05And we're going over some block settings.
- 35:07Oh, I know you're doing this in a TC.
- 35:10You triple jumper job. I don't know who he is.
- 35:12So Joe waves at him like who was that?
- 35:14He goes oh that's do Airlines. Like yeah it's not his name do
- 35:21so. Yes, it is so true.
- 35:25Conversation just yesterday we were at the all cover me and he
- 35:30says coach can I have them introduce me as do Airlines.
- 35:33I said sir, they already have enough with your legal name like
- 35:37just keep it as it is. We were warming up the 200 at
- 36:12that time and so I couldn't be in the stadium.
- 36:15So I actually did not see it. And so walking to the warm-up
- 36:20field I hear the clap and I can tell dusclops, is different than
- 36:24Emmanuel's completely different. Not because we organ crowd, but
- 36:28it was just different and You hear the Roar.
- 36:34And then he her, you literally hear the deflate in the audience
- 36:39and I was like he fouled by pulled the results.
- 36:41Definitely felt, you know and then second attempt you hear the
- 36:45roar but you can tell that it wasn't the Roar and then attempt
- 36:52number three. Yeah, Ellen deal.
- 36:57Yeah, I was in the stadium and I was kind of I was sitting in the
- 37:00middle of the sector and the Oregon guy Jump Frog YouTube
- 37:04before and it's like when he got on the when he got on the
- 37:07runway, he started to clap. He will you could tell like he's
- 37:11like I'm I'm done with this. I'm putting this Out Of Reach
- 37:16and when he hit the saying it was like it was a Oh my God in a
- 37:21crap at the same time for the organs, right?
- 37:23Yeah phenomenal performance but he just passed our guy, right?
- 37:27But watching those two interact or not, the meat was great, you
- 37:31know what a great competition. What happened?
- 37:35Well, you know, I had to go back and check.
- 37:38That's the number nine. Best jump in the history of the
- 37:42NCAA. Right?
- 37:46Fifty six, seven and a half mean, you look at the the
- 37:49Jumpers in front of him, and we're talking about the great,
- 37:53Mike Conley Marquis dendy Christian, Taylor stop me.
- 37:58If I'm Charlie Simkins will clay.
- 38:05You see that right? Well, today this edrick floreal,
- 38:10you know? I mean, yeah, unbelievable
- 38:14competition and I know that it was there's there's a sub story
- 38:20to this because do lost 22 Emanuel last.
- 38:26Ear and, you know, and doors and doors as well, right?
- 38:31Yeah. And he had, you know, this is
- 38:33something that had been. You could tell it was it was on
- 38:37his soul, you know? And so there was no doubt, you
- 38:43know, I mean and you watch the way he ran his approach and
- 38:46everything like that he was in it to win.
- 38:50It was no question who was going to walk away with that title and
- 38:55he didn't care whether The manuals on his Turf, he didn't
- 38:59care. Yes, it was his championship.
- 39:02And yeah, I mean, I just hope the younger Jumpers in there, in
- 39:07the competition. You know, mean, I hope now, we
- 39:11have a situation where two guys are that much better and it
- 39:14raises the level of everybody else, you know?
- 39:16Because you're not joking with you m.
- 39:19Yeah. And can we please start learning
- 39:21how to launch a good Lord? Please.
- 39:24That was painful to watch. That's amazing.
- 39:35Let's talk about something on a positive note.
- 39:56I was watching it come down. The first type of object it was
- 39:59clear. Nobody was good job.
- 40:00Super floss. She came down on our first, jump
- 40:03on, whatever 22 feet. Like okay, come chase me.
- 40:05Yeah, that was a beauty of it. Very business assassin.
- 40:13Yes. So it's funny that it's funny.
- 40:15You said that I said, I said to Sean Jackson today we were
- 40:18sitting there after they track him and I said as I shown you
- 40:21your you know, elbows deep in the jumps world.
- 40:24So I mean you're the person for me to have this conversation
- 40:26Relation with. I was like, have you ever seen
- 40:28somebody make a double look any easier?
- 40:30He was like, No. And I was like, that's what it
- 40:34is, right? Like like literally, I'm sure
- 40:39that these things were in doubt, theoretically, right?
- 40:44But at no point in time during the indoor, NCAA me or the
- 40:48outdoor n-c-double-a me that I ever get the inkling that
- 40:51anybody else was going to win in the longer triple jump, other
- 40:54than Jasmine, like not even, like, not one like brief thought
- 40:59like, oh, she gonna have to go? No, no, it was, it was
- 41:15Right now, we're Jasmine is at physically, but I think more so
- 41:19mentally like, she's in everybody's head rent-free and
- 41:22it's like nobody thinks they can beat her.
- 41:25See, you know, and I think that's where it is.
- 41:37Jazz. Come look around, okay.
- 41:38Just excited for you and she's gonna sit there as he
- 42:03deserves a hell of a lot of crime.
- 42:06Yes, this week and you can pick it apart.
- 42:12You ain't got nothing to say about the men's relays USC men.
- 42:17Under us cement is the most decorated program in the sport.
- 42:23And they set a School record in the 4 by 12.
- 42:27With a national championship was shocking right without their
- 42:30number one guy. Yep.
- 42:32Yes, right. Devante Burnett is hurt.
- 42:35Yeah. Right.
- 42:36That is there's no one in that Stadium outside of Quincy and
- 42:40Jet who thought they were going to win that, right?
- 42:42Yeah. And the four guys.
- 42:44Yeah. Right.
- 42:45But could you listen to them after the race?
- 42:47They totally believed they were going to win and I have no idea
- 42:50what they said to kishan. James the first leg up.
- 42:55Oh my God. James was out there doing his
- 42:58best, Tiana, Madison, and pressing.
- 43:00Yes there's someone lit a fire on the mr.
- 43:07Blockburger. Because yes, I did not see that
- 43:12coming. Let's be cool for my for uh yeah
- 43:17the y for yes. Yeah.
- 43:22Here to things. He liked the 4x1, got them lit
- 43:26right there was a crook and so we're in the back and, you know,
- 43:30she'll Clyde. So when we were on that one
- 43:33steeple barrier, then about 20 meters down.
- 43:36They were on another people barrier.
- 43:38So Quincy calls them together. He gets down on one knee and I
- 43:42turned to my guys. All later.
- 43:43We doing this again. My dentist in a snap as once.
- 43:53Because Quincy got in their heads with think about it.
- 43:56Zack Shinnok who's been just another dudes?
- 44:02Yeah. You know, listen when the last
- 44:23time we saw the NCAA championships, it, you know, the
- 44:27time is 37.9 and that's, you know, you got three Olympians on
- 44:30that team. So everybody's like, oh, that's
- 44:32the standard now. No, that's the record.
- 44:34That ain't normal. Okay, what we saw this, this is
- 44:37more close to normal and understand this, if not for the
- 44:41exploits of mr. Van blade for by one wasn't
- 44:43close. They were blowing that out.
- 44:47Yes, I actually know what. I take that back.
- 44:50They weren't blowing it out because Houston was right there
- 44:53and sure Houston would like this.
- 44:54So whatever that was
- 45:20In a warm period because, you know, jet, like people like you
- 45:23expect Jack to be overly animated and she wasn't, she was
- 45:27very Workman like, you know, it was not told her I said, you
- 45:31know, you got I got my eye on, you know, but I can get you.
- 45:35You win it without your best guy, right?
- 45:37Yeah, without the number one, like how many people in this
- 45:40country? Sir can y'all win the four by
- 45:44one without Big? Joe know?
- 45:46Right. Like how many teams can now pull
- 45:47that off without their number one guy like that?
- 45:50That was no testing the end or 60, can't ya.
- 45:56Because if that's him on the anchor Jo, don't get that close
- 45:59right. But I don't know it's Joe.
- 46:01You never know what Sprint Century again till detailer BYU
- 46:15Courtney Weymouth. What the hell what do I know
- 46:19about corroding wearing? Mmm.
- 46:21What do I have that?
- 46:40We predicted I was Fielding messages from people.
- 46:46If of coaches like What is the governor know that you guys
- 46:51don't know? I continue and and then you
- 46:54watch the race? Know something.
- 47:21Oh man, let me find out the governor that it got a time
- 47:24machine. Let me know.
- 47:26I know right. He's got that book from Back to
- 47:28the Future, right? Can I just can I can I stick one
- 47:32thing in here really quick and I know where we're going to talk
- 47:33about a bunch of other things but I just I don't want more
- 47:36kids like, listen, cam Rogers. Yes, not listen folks and The
- 47:48hammer facility at the University of California is a 20
- 47:53to 25 minute drive from campus Richmond, fuel station.
- 47:59Babe, it is on a floodplain. Like this.
- 48:06No no parts of this is sexy. No parts of this.
- 48:09Even says Malaysian one I would like to interrupt you for a
- 48:12second. It is very sexy how far she
- 48:15throws that damn thing. I mean from day.
- 48:19Listen. Okay, other man.
- 48:21Okay, I hear you about the facility and all that stuff.
- 48:24Forget the facility, you know. Yeah, like here's the thing.
- 48:28Yeah, I I'm suppose, I'm trying to coach my team and I hear and
- 48:33up in 72, the ring is Kim Rogers.
- 48:36So, by the time I get over there, she's thrown all right.
- 48:39Now, I'm pissed because I missed it, right?
- 48:43But it's like, This. You have take the number of
- 48:45people who showed up just to watch her.
- 48:48Yeah, only it, was that easy. That's why I couldn't get to see
- 48:55her because I couldn't get through the people.
- 48:58Who are you sir? No exactly.
- 49:04Yes, everybody came to watch her and the thing was, like, the
- 49:08whole competition was good. Oh yeah, yeah.
- 49:12It's like somebody. Dear to throw it in a meter or
- 49:15so let us know what are we doing?
- 49:44You're not gonna win a medal behind through ball time.
- 49:47Yes, all. Yeah, I'm right.
- 49:49Not not any sort of legal, not all time in everybody that saw
- 49:57it was just like, oh my God, it was so effortless.
- 49:59Mmm, just like it. Just the thing just jumped, you
- 50:03know, like that like this. Like the guy we had last year
- 50:04was like, you know, Thomas is phenomenal.
- 50:07But like hers was just there if I said was just seamless man,
- 50:11like the thing just jumped out of her hand and just doesn't
- 50:13want to come Down. And I've said this, I've said
- 50:16this before, but I know everybody doesn't see every
- 50:18single show we do. So I will repeat it.
- 50:22I'm doing this 16 years Coast, a lot of people I've never seen an
- 50:27athlete work harder at their craft and cameras, that, that
- 50:32girl don't give a damn about no NCAA guidelines.
- 50:35She out there twice a day all the time on her own like every
- 50:42day. Yeah, just me hersel.
- 50:44After rehearsal after rehearsal she's Relentless in the weight
- 50:47room. Like, you know, you know, people
- 50:51are impressive in the weight room and the football people
- 50:54will stop what they're doing. But What the hell is that,
- 50:57right? Go watch that Relentless and
- 51:02just like honestly just one of the best kids that I've ever met
- 51:05like she's super humble just you know, the sweetest person but a
- 51:10Monster. Yeah, I mean, totally committed
- 51:13to what she's doing and yeah she gonna get a minute.
- 51:16Yeah, I just want I want nobody to be surprised when she throws
- 51:2280 meters at World Championships because I said, Before the bear
- 51:27goal was not the national championship because that was
- 51:31well within her, she is going to throw further in a month, folks.
- 51:36Wow, wow, yes. It's and so and I'm going to,
- 51:40I'm going to kind of go home or here a little bit again.
- 51:42And I'm going to talk about Anna Hall and her and her exploits.
- 51:46You know, there was some knucklehead out there that
- 51:50tweeted. I bet she doesn't know weeks
- 51:53School of the point. She wants to bet a Thousand
- 51:55dollars, you won't score the point.
- 51:56She wants to score and and it being.
- 51:58So she must be a little Kinder Chuck.
- 52:00Being a little petty at the end of the knee.
- 52:02Goes my venmo is right. Is that right?
- 52:26And I'll haul not only wanted to do for that hurdle.
- 52:30She wanted to long jump, right? She came to me under the guise
- 52:35that she, you know, that she was trying to we have, what's going
- 52:37to use the 100 hurdles as a training, run at the prelim me
- 52:41when all the time she was trying to qualify that as well.
- 52:44She's a competitor. Is that me?
- 53:25This of that is for her to win the event by over 400 points. 21
- 53:31minutes after being second in the form of hurdles in the
- 53:35second best time of your life. So so I'm I just had a thought
- 53:40like that sounds like a workout. I'm that sounds.
- 53:49Hey, Anna check it out. We're gonna hurdle race race
- 53:53case. We're going to rest 21 minutes,
- 53:58and then we're going to run a date that happened because you
- 54:08didn't have the other two events of the have been our legs.
- 54:10And plus, you know, clearly it wasn't the same effort, but She
- 54:15could do things that like 2007 and 2008 pays right.
- 54:19But that that but you don't have the adrenaline Factory in there.
- 54:22Yeah she really she really thought she was gonna run to 11
- 54:25on my hand? No, no.
- 54:32She called me and said but she said she got
- 54:57This is what people are saying. The morning, we were getting
- 55:01ready for the long jump that morning is arm of the final day
- 55:06and she says to me, I'm running the full by forth to meet him
- 55:11and I'm like, no, you're not. You should have ended her a
- 55:15baton at the end, you know, it is 20 minutes after they got
- 55:19doing that. But that's her mindset and talk
- 55:23about a young lady who wants to get on the podium because let's
- 55:26be realistic if we don't want the phone to hurdles.
- 55:28And she runs 2003 she scores 6600 points, right?
- 55:34You know. So I mean, I think she's another
- 55:38one, you know, our goal, our Target is, you know, getting on
- 55:40the mental state and that's it. That's what we're trying to for
- 55:44he's winning a medal. Okay, I missed my daughter's
- 55:48name, she's my been threatened to will end up with you know
- 56:07Great things in the shot, in the disk, on the women's Side by
- 56:10miss van klinken. Not because she was my pick,
- 56:12because she did great things, right?
- 56:14On the men's side, we had the Cal throwers.
- 56:18Unfortunately, Arenas went s got second and then they had iffy.
- 56:22I forgot his last name. Sorry, if you join the Joiner.
- 56:27So, shout out, like, we haven't been doing it already with.
- 56:29Shout out to mow because you literally cleaned up pole vault,
- 56:34we had the Young T from Louisville who came not out of
- 56:38nowhere. But she, she superseded her
- 56:42acts, like the expectation of the crowd for them to Mars.
- 56:45Is that as is that Jeff? Because Meyer the more?
- 56:48No, it's not. I just you.
- 56:50As soon as I started to open mouth of river named, they
- 56:52female coach. Okay.
- 56:55Oh, identical, her and I remember, but yeah, it is not
- 56:58Peterson. There we go.
- 57:00Oh they're just, there was phenomena, like we said before
- 57:02there was phenomenal, things that happened and As Clyde
- 57:07always alludes to in Championship or big meat.
- 57:10You've got a total lie and show up, show out and win.
- 57:14And this was a little. Let's talk about this to like,
- 57:16you know, Bo Collegiate record. Holding teams went along the
- 57:20full by Form, came away with pictures.
- 57:22No, you gotta give credit to those two squads as well.
- 57:24Yeah, I mean it was I promise you we going to get
- 57:45into that at the end of this. Okay, there you go.
- 57:51I knew it was a bee. I could remember it.
- 57:52Brooke. Brooke razznik.
- 57:54Congratulations. Here for the scores.
- 58:11A little bit of the breakdown. So the top, so the overall
- 58:20overall score both genders, not to my surprise and I'm sure the
- 58:26tiles aren't surprised by this, but the governor pulls it out.
- 58:32How much 3 points over, Lamar. Oh, there we go.
- 58:40Climb the damn 5K, but thank you.
- 58:57I told you that. All.
- 59:03Glad I gave it to you. 37. You had no Clyde.
- 59:07You scored only 30 points. Oh my God.
- 59:11Crying? Yeah, beegley beagley.
- 59:26Oh, I'm sure I did. In points on the men's side.
- 59:35So 14 for the women, it was both Lamar and the governor tied for
- 59:43first with 18 points and then I brought up the rear with
- 59:4614-point so we swapped So bad. All right, across the awesome
- 59:57Muammar, you won, the women's pics with 21 points, got one
- 1:00:02night. Yeah.
- 1:00:04So and then you know the rest, the rest is history so let's
- 1:00:09hear that. What would a rest What do you
- 1:00:12mean? What were the rest?
- 1:00:17He he wanted you to say that. Again,
- 1:00:31you don't get like a like a burger king crown because all
- 1:00:34the good, but you are the man. Thank you.
- 1:00:37Thank you, thank so. Wait, what break on the
- 1:00:39janitors? Again what what?
- 1:00:41What were the Men scouring. What would woman's course?
- 1:00:44I 18, 16 14, the two of you, you and the governor tide and then
- 1:00:50Collide in myself. And then for the women's picks,
- 1:00:53it was 21. 19:15. And then 14, well, you tell me,
- 1:00:59let me ask you a stupid question.
- 1:01:01If I tied for the win on one side and one on the other side,
- 1:01:05how is it that I lost? Because he's looking for
- 1:01:08foisting. You did on the know I scored
- 1:01:11more. I scored more points than he
- 1:01:12did. If we tied on one gender and I
- 1:01:17won the other gender by two points.
- 1:01:20I don't know much about math as many as 30 39, is his total 18
- 1:01:27and 21 is 39. Kegs was it the bonuses that put
- 1:01:30the governor over the top? Ah, maybe it's the bonus.
- 1:01:34Oh yeah, sorry. I'm still the bonuses or in a
- 1:01:37different. Yes, it has to be the bonus
- 1:01:41column. Wow, that was horrible.
- 1:01:45So here these but look now when it now now I'm interested let's
- 1:01:48hear these bonus picks. Will you have you have the
- 1:01:52spreadsheet the same? Anyways, why do you do their job
- 1:01:57as C2? So make the final or top three,
- 1:02:06who got their bonuses. So In the 100, everyone got it.
- 1:02:13But but what were the bones 01 you at one point or no points?
- 1:02:18No shoe. For example, in the women's
- 1:02:21hundred Lamar got his bonus, how oh, by picking Solera Barnes and
- 1:02:28Big Joe. So there are bugs in their Barn
- 1:02:31final. Not make the final and Big Joe
- 1:02:34to be top three. Correct, are you go?
- 1:02:37See? This is if we gonna do the petty
- 1:02:38game, you got to give the petty result.
- 1:02:41Did I get my bonuses in the hundred?
- 1:02:44I feel like I got it. He's good.
- 1:02:45You did because you had mr. Bowling and then as me, So I
- 1:02:50only got one. No, I had bowling to miss the
- 1:02:55final. He missed the final last guy in
- 1:02:57the year. And that's right.
- 1:02:59Right. So it's top three or not.
- 1:03:02So yeah. So yeah.
- 1:03:06You get a point for that one. Yes.
- 1:03:13How did he get his policy? He got his oh, he missed one in
- 1:03:18the 100. His Was bowling and then Julian.
- 1:03:21Alfred in the 200, Big, Joe and qivana Davis qivana is the one
- 1:03:25he missed because she took seventh, tell you right now, the
- 1:03:30way you found them through this Lamar's glass for a recount.
- 1:03:34We don't need a recount so far. I'm winning by Four Points,
- 1:03:37three points. There's like I say, he tell you
- 1:03:39it, they're going through the bat.
- 1:03:41I'll look at it again, it will table.
- 1:03:42This will table this I am exhausted.
- 1:04:21The spreadsheet has been left blank for a while so it is my
- 1:04:25apologies of their mistake. Three words letters, RG3.
- 1:04:34Oh wait, are we are we skipping the I was skipping the baron.
- 1:04:41No I was going to put the next sorry.
- 1:04:42Okay my bad. It's okay.
- 1:04:45It's okay but RG3 cousin keep it in context with the meat RG3.
- 1:04:52There was a lot of conversation inside outside social media and
- 1:04:58even things that were pertinent. Like people commenting outside
- 1:05:01of football outside of track and field.
- 1:05:03Just Aesthetics related about Commentary about his.
- 1:05:09We're all about his colorful wordings and and choices and
- 1:05:14selections. So I honestly so if you haven't
- 1:05:20heard reference to the audience already like we have a group
- 1:05:23chat and I think does go off and it's pretty crazy and it is
- 1:05:26live. Just, you know, I've been in and
- 1:05:29out of it just personally just trying to keep track of
- 1:05:32everything. So I am interested in hearing,
- 1:05:34what are the tiles perspective of of of RG3 presence of his
- 1:05:41references. Things of that nature.
- 1:05:43Okay. Mr. Lamar since your hand is so
- 1:05:45politely raised feel like RG3. This weekend was like the
- 1:05:52internet was both the best thing and the worst thing
- 1:05:56simultaneously. Listen.
- 1:06:00Hey, I'm calling Matthew, bowling the M&M of track and
- 1:06:04field. Maybe one of the worst things
- 1:06:06you could possibly have opened it often said him him saying
- 1:06:10that talitha, Unleashed her to lethal kick, but that, but that
- 1:06:15wasn't that was, that was, that was where over to the said that
- 1:06:18first year, Others that he just repeated with you.
- 1:06:26He had a couple of other hip-hop references and things that were
- 1:06:32really, really good. And so, like, look, this is what
- 1:06:37I say, right track and field is never short on accomplishments,
- 1:06:43but often very short on attention.
- 1:06:46And the one thing that I am 100% sure of it, This whatever
- 1:06:52mistakes you made, we clean it up and put his butt back in the
- 1:06:55booth because he was good for the sport as a whole, right?
- 1:07:03It wasn't perfect, but he was definitely without question.
- 1:07:07Good for I've learned this term and how important it is the
- 1:07:12engagements. There were asked what they ton
- 1:07:16of people talking about the meat, right?
- 1:07:19He brought that excitement, you know, he has a name, people
- 1:07:22talked about him, they talked about things, he was saying and
- 1:07:25trade it to be his first time. Yeah, he made a lot less
- 1:07:29mistakes and some of the people have been doing it for like 50
- 1:07:31years, right? You know.
- 1:07:33So here we go right here for that, right, you know, and I
- 1:07:37think that, I think that if he wants to spend more time to
- 1:07:40become a little more knowledgeable, on some things, I
- 1:07:44think that he made one of the only mistake, I think he makes
- 1:07:46his he make a mistake and a lot of them make.
- 1:07:49They want to start talking about the technical side of things,
- 1:07:52they really do, you know, right now you just let that side of
- 1:07:55it, Go just call the race, you know, nothing.
- 1:07:58None of them know what the hell to drive phases.
- 1:08:00So stop talking. No.
- 1:08:03So let's stop talking about. But other than that, I think. so
- 1:08:16I'm sitting there and I didn't trying to think if I when I'm
- 1:08:24watching the for hurdles and materiais wins the for hurdles
- 1:08:32And he says, he was running through the six with his.
- 1:08:36Whoa. And I'm just like that.
- 1:08:38That was the one that was the one.
- 1:08:40I was like, what? Because he's Canadian.
- 1:08:46Yes was perfect. Exactly easily his best.
- 1:08:51It was, I mean it was easily he's unbelievable the timing the
- 1:08:57the way he said it you know and it was like it rolled off his
- 1:09:01tongue. Like it was part of the whole
- 1:09:02deal and I'm just going. Wow.
- 1:09:05Okay this is different. This is different because you
- 1:09:09know and someone mentioned I think someone mentioned it on on
- 1:09:14on on Twitter and he's like the scoot down the Stuart Scott, you
- 1:09:19know, you making these references, you know like like
- 1:09:24you know cuz you know Stuart Scott came to every show locked
- 1:09:28and loaded and ready to just throw that out there.
- 1:09:31At you, you know, and you know and created his own Persona.
- 1:09:36I mean, obviously RG3, you know, is his well accomplished.
- 1:09:41He's always been well, spoken and and we've seen him before
- 1:09:44but to see him it seemed in this medium.
- 1:09:48I want to see more of it. I definitely want to see more of
- 1:09:52it. I think, you know, track and
- 1:09:54field needs it. And you know, I think that We
- 1:10:01are a bit guilty of having the same voices and the same
- 1:10:06competitions and hearing the same terminology.
- 1:10:11And it's and it's like you get kind of bogged down because, you
- 1:10:15know, track and field is actually exciting.
- 1:10:18It's actually there's there's things that you can bring to the
- 1:10:22table, you know, that that you can rope in people that
- 1:10:26otherwise wouldn't, you know, that wouldn't, you know, watch
- 1:10:29it. And I love it is a breath of
- 1:10:32fresh air and I hope I hope we see more track and field
- 1:10:36competitions. So, here's my card.
- 1:10:39We got a guy with million followers telling me everybody
- 1:10:42to watch the track. Absolutely so so, okay.
- 1:10:47I see, I'm sorry too. I didn't, I didn't mean to step.
- 1:10:49I got to go ahead. Well, what I was going to say is
- 1:10:53to piggyback off of the governor's just statement just
- 1:10:56now as track and field fans and you saw it on Twitter Either you
- 1:11:00see it on Twitter after a big meat, or even an international
- 1:11:03meet at that, we need new voices.
- 1:11:05It's dry there, blah blah, blah, blah blah.
- 1:11:08We thrown a new voice and everybody's making it a contrary
- 1:11:11statement to it. We can't win but they don't know
- 1:11:15what they want because more it's not that they don't I don't feel
- 1:11:19I don't feel like it's not that they don't know what they want
- 1:11:22but what they want is their voice is their articulation is
- 1:11:26their thing and it's single. Be a commentator and stop being
- 1:11:29a coach. We can skinny.
- 1:11:31And I'm glad you said that too, because, you know, the number of
- 1:11:35armchair coaches out there. Oh yeah.
- 1:11:37You know, everybody's got an opinion, somebody selling
- 1:11:40something. Like I like I read somebody sent
- 1:11:43me a quote to somebody said, well, Florida, run really fast
- 1:11:45with it. But Joseph, wonderful wife, or
- 1:11:47did you watch the Texas relay because I was there, is that
- 1:11:53what you were there? Like Joseph wants not like, you
- 1:11:55know, you see how hard you laugh when John Anderson said that
- 1:11:58day? But like, come on, like so like
- 1:12:02stop. Let people do their jobs.
- 1:12:04Enjoy what's going on? Like it was was Robert Griffin.
- 1:12:08The third Perfect by no means, no, but he did, he really added
- 1:12:12a different flavor, added a different voice, he added a
- 1:12:15different, you know? Just the whole thing was just
- 1:12:17this listening to him. Talk you know it was just it was
- 1:12:20something different or something new and fresh and I thought it
- 1:12:22was good. Yeah, so okay, so I want to get
- 1:12:26into Some of this because I largely agree with the overall,
- 1:12:31I don't know feeling of what we're saying here.
- 1:12:36I thought he was good. As I understand it, he had been
- 1:12:41called a track and field competition before.
- 1:12:43He has a really, he has a really good voice for that job and
- 1:12:51because RG3 does have, you know, a former Into the sport, he ran
- 1:12:58in high school. He was pretty damn good.
- 1:13:00He ran in college for a hot second.
- 1:13:02He was good, right? You can tell he has passion
- 1:13:06about the sport. Yep.
- 1:13:08And his passion comes through in his commentating all of which as
- 1:13:13an audience. I appreciate What I don't
- 1:13:19appreciate is. We're and it's not just him, but
- 1:13:25he's the new one, right? We're like Lucia said, when you
- 1:13:29get into areas that you clearly don't understand.
- 1:13:33And you are doing a segment where you are, educating our
- 1:13:36audience about the sport and what you're saying is wrong, I
- 1:13:40cringe. Yeah, right.
- 1:13:42So I don't enjoy that part. Don't educate people on what you
- 1:13:46don't know. the other thing in this is just Someone hero, tell
- 1:13:53me I'm over blowing this, the color commentator is cool.
- 1:14:00A lot of it felt like he was the gesture.
- 1:14:05And I don't want the only black dude on the broadcast to be the
- 1:14:08jester. It just some of it was really
- 1:14:12cringey and you could tell it was stuff that he had preempted
- 1:14:17himself to say like for example. And so lucious was out there
- 1:14:21winning this Championship so you probably didn't hear this slide.
- 1:14:24What in the van boulet? That's catchy.
- 1:14:27I actually like it love it. Don't say it four times in two
- 1:14:31minutes because now you're forcing what I'm saying, right?
- 1:14:40Fell in about the Texas, Women's 4 by 1.
- 1:14:44Oh, I don't like black girls, being called felons on TV.
- 1:14:47I don't like that. I don't even know what that
- 1:14:48means. Yeah, right.
- 1:14:50So let's hope and again, Matthew bowling as Eminem.
- 1:14:54Stop it. One of the worst things that one
- 1:14:57you just can't. You just can't do it.
- 1:14:59No, he sold me into it and should not do that.
- 1:15:02No, you know what I mean? But, If I'm gonna take subtle
- 1:15:07shots at RG3, I'm going to take a big one at the white stone
- 1:15:11because I'm tired of this PS. Look how this Dwight Stones is
- 1:15:16been doing this way too long and he's been doing this act for so
- 1:15:21long that you can see the crap coming.
- 1:15:24I don't want literally every single time the white stone
- 1:15:27spoke he is shitting on the weather.
- 1:15:31In Oregon, the word, rain came out his mouth, like 25 times I
- 1:15:35broke, we get it. There's rain.
- 1:15:37Maybe shut the hell up. Performances are still dope.
- 1:15:41But he doesn't say a word about the rain.
- 1:15:44When the women's high jump is going on because, you know,
- 1:15:45that's his thing, he just wants to be up in the Imposter of
- 1:15:49about that and RG3 and Dwight stones have no right.
- 1:15:55Someone should mute the microphone.
- 1:15:59Joseph Campbell a wins, the hundred meters.
- 1:16:02He is the champion, NCAA champion.
- 1:16:07And RG3 says, and I quote, I want to make sure I get it right
- 1:16:14because I definitely wrote down coaches, come on, just help him
- 1:16:17have a better start, he would be a dominant Force.
- 1:16:20Yep, dominant force. It would last Outlook, the boy
- 1:16:22spent the whole meat dominate so I don't know, like is this a
- 1:16:29narrative that you guys are going through and
- 1:16:32pre-production? Because I know some people to do
- 1:16:34this for a living and I know how pre-production goes like R RG3
- 1:16:39was doing a really good job. When he was just being RG3 and
- 1:16:43being excited and being passionate and talking, and
- 1:16:46every now and then he slid his rehearse, the one-liners in
- 1:16:49there. And it was funny.
- 1:16:51A lot of it was forced and it felt like a trying too hard
- 1:16:55comedian show. I like that part, but the white
- 1:16:59stones, man. Bro, you like just got to stop.
- 1:17:02The disrespect is got to stop. I mean, seriously, I just, and I
- 1:17:08have to say this because it was really irritating to me.
- 1:17:11When I came home and watched it on the women's finals day.
- 1:17:16They were trying as they should to tell the story of the
- 1:17:20national championship race between Florida and Texas.
- 1:17:23I get that. That's part of the broadcast.
- 1:17:27One of the things that blew up on Twitter was during the
- 1:17:30400-meter hurdles because of The Narrative of the team
- 1:17:34championship, the 400 hurdle coverage was all about Anna Hall
- 1:17:39and they Loosely ignored written Wilson.
- 1:17:43My problem with that is Britain Wilson was by far the
- 1:17:47overwhelming favorite and it didn't appear if you're
- 1:17:50listening to the broadcast, that RG3 knew that.
- 1:17:53Because he was talking about an aha, like she was somehow upset
- 1:17:56in the foreign hurdles, by written Wilson, which is dumb.
- 1:18:00The problem with that whole setup is this, they didn't
- 1:18:04mention the multis at all until after the Foreigner hurts.
- 1:18:09So, no one understood, why? It was so impressive than an aha
- 1:18:12was even out there getting second because y'all are telling
- 1:18:15the story backwards. Yeah, so to me, if we're going
- 1:18:20to continue to make this better and rg-31 Positive Improvement
- 1:18:25to the broadcast team. He just was, we need to be
- 1:18:30better planning this and the gesturing, don't need to be that
- 1:18:34deep but overall I thought he did a really good job and yes,
- 1:18:37it was a net, positive and Lamar's absolutely right.
- 1:18:40He's got a bunch of followers. Somebody would have million
- 1:18:43followers telling his audience, to watch the meat, nothing, but
- 1:18:46good, and positive for us. And yes, it was obviously
- 1:18:49engaging. Well, quite literally, if they
- 1:18:52were to watch or preview, they would know what's going to
- 1:18:55happen. They would have all the the
- 1:18:57stories about what's going to happen in the me, right?
- 1:19:01Yeah, just watch the show. He has the names of those who
- 1:19:24don't practice, I can't make that up last last met honorable
- 1:19:33mention, before we move away from the meat.
- 1:19:36Congratulations Kudos hands out to those who were inducted into
- 1:19:41the new athlete NCAA Hall of Fame.
- 1:19:44Did my giving it the right letters?
- 1:19:47That was a celebration that took place Monday.
- 1:19:50For the competition started. Good stuff.
- 1:19:54I mean it's going to take them a while to catch up but that's
- 1:19:56okay too. Because I started in the last
- 1:19:58round of sidebar. Do that.
- 1:20:00Okay, I like the idea but can we do it at the convention?
- 1:20:03Yeah I mean yeah that's what that's what conventions are for.
- 1:20:08I'm not taking my team to a three-hour function.
- 1:20:13I'll be at the convention, much better idea.
- 1:20:20Do that. Exactly.
- 1:20:23That good on them for thinking about it, starting the process.
- 1:20:26And, and yeah, I think it's great.
- 1:20:28Great. Great idea when they will catch
- 1:20:30up but not but not day, is it, you know, moving away from the
- 1:20:36meat but still related to how a man picks theremin picks.
- 1:20:43This is the hardest question of the Night by night and and let's
- 1:20:47say this, and this is why it like, I understand the word,
- 1:20:49why? It's a hard question.
- 1:20:52It is, it isn't and there's going to be a tradition that's
- 1:20:55broken. Very like broken glass
- 1:20:59shattered. If the true pick if we can call
- 1:21:04it that? No, no, no.
- 1:21:14Three men. Three women.
- 1:21:17Oh, I thought it was just picking the one.
- 1:21:20No, no. The day is what we really need.
- 1:21:30I actually scored 24 points on the women's side, not even 21,
- 1:21:36and in my total is actually Route 40 42 points.
- 1:21:40Sir, the recounted be taking place next week, just give us
- 1:21:43your account. Give us your Powerman dais Image
- 1:21:47and Defiance okay to finance is a free account.
- 1:21:52Bowerman day, sir. Seriously, like this dude said
- 1:21:57here and we calculated that that's very Petty.
- 1:22:02I just give us your boundaries are
- 1:22:16waiting on. On anything you will understand,
- 1:22:19okay? If it's always below the
- 1:22:23surface, okay? It's always below the surface,
- 1:22:29always below the so, yes, I got it.
- 1:22:31Like he just, just like kings of comedy, he wishes we wish right
- 1:22:39now. Yeah, that's that isn't we wish
- 1:22:42your mother would? Yep.
- 1:22:46That's the fact. We will get those scores out but
- 1:22:49we need your Bowerman Daya sir. Okay, I have my three women but
- 1:22:57that's okay. We go first.
- 1:23:04No particular order. Julie Nelson.
- 1:23:13He hasn't more. I missed the first one.
- 1:23:16Julia Alfred Alfred wow Ana Hall.
- 1:23:20Hmm. Jasmine and Jasmine.
- 1:23:23Okay I'll wait. I know that recorded who's
- 1:23:42supposed to win it. I didn't get there.
- 1:23:46See, I reloaded the mind. I don't know.
- 1:23:50Clyde, why are you blowing her mind?
- 1:23:52I'm trying to get this organized.
- 1:23:54We know organ. Why do I have to go?
- 1:23:57Second, all right, Governor, I'll just say this but it's
- 1:24:09going to be so it's so hard for me to not say Abby Steiners name
- 1:24:12but I'm not going to Cam Jasmine.
- 1:24:19And a halt. Okay, okay.
- 1:24:28I'm gonna go with. Jasmine.
- 1:24:44I'm going with Jasmine more, Abby Steiner and Anna Hall.
- 1:24:51We should I go? Or would you like to go?
- 1:24:53Are you serious right now? I can go home because I'm gonna
- 1:24:57be shocking fix here and a halt Jasmine more Abby Steiner even
- 1:25:05though I don't agree with this, but Abby's going away.
- 1:25:09Yes, they're going to, they're going to do what they did but
- 1:25:12when she cared yeah you're gonna meet on the performance.
- 1:25:15Not even a body of work. Yes, yes, Right, my opinion.
- 1:25:22So I'm gonna ask a silly question.
- 1:25:25If they're gonna go based on performance then this is a done
- 1:25:27deal. Cam Rogers has the most
- 1:25:29impressive performance of anyone in the meat.
- 1:25:32She's the number nine hammered as why are you yelling at me but
- 1:25:39this is this is the conversation.
- 1:26:21So, the other problem you have is now Abby's. 22:08 doors, is
- 1:26:26the number one all-time? Yes, gasping.
- 1:26:30That's because because can doesn't have the indoor that
- 1:26:32have. Yes.
- 1:26:33Okay, so wait, I mean before we get started, I have the indoor
- 1:26:36but she broke the outdoor Collegiate record five times.
- 1:26:40Well dude, I am not arguing with you before.
- 1:26:44Listen, I didn't get mine. I didn't give mine.
- 1:26:48I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Clive.
- 1:26:49Illinois, because I'm here. I'm here for the debate and this
- 1:26:52is gonna this year this year. Think I tasted it.
- 1:26:56Just take for right, that's what I think.
- 1:27:00I don't know the rules, but if there was ever a year where you
- 1:27:04must demand that there are four chairs on the stage, it is this
- 1:27:10year, you know, obviously the four chairs must be Abby, Anna,
- 1:27:16Jasmine, and cam Rogers. Now if the rules, don't Four,
- 1:27:21four chairs on the stage, break them.
- 1:27:23And put a fork chair on the stage because any one of those
- 1:27:26ladies that doesn't have a chair on the stage is being
- 1:27:29disrespected at a level that I can't even contemplate blacks.
- 1:27:34But we're, I'll play the game. If it has to be three chairs.
- 1:27:39Unfortunately, for me, I think you got to leave.
- 1:27:42Anna off the stage. and for the reasons that we were just
- 1:27:47starting to get into, It depends on how you, it depends on how
- 1:27:51you want to evaluate. I Jasmine more is undefeated and
- 1:27:56went 4 for 4 and broke National records.
- 1:27:59Hmm. So her season Collegiate season
- 1:28:04cannot be said to be worse than cam, Rogers, even though, cam
- 1:28:10Rogers dominated in a much better way and had a much better
- 1:28:14overall performance at the end. What Abby has indoor.
- 1:28:22So if a b wins, I'm not upset if Jasmine wins.
- 1:28:26I'm not upset if Cam wins, I'm not upset.
- 1:28:29The reason I would say I have to leave Anna out is because the
- 1:28:32rules dictate that there has to be three but you can make the
- 1:28:35case and give the award to Anna. So I don't care how you do it.
- 1:28:40You put four chairs on the stage but if for me and this is my
- 1:28:45homeroom if Kim Rogers isn't on the stage, I'm protest broke.
- 1:28:50So okay so I'm standing right there next to.
- 1:28:53So the award is supposed to be for is basically like the, the
- 1:28:59Heisman, right? Iseman is the best because the
- 1:29:02best overall player right, column?
- 1:29:05Right? Okay.
- 1:29:07In 1523 122 feet, 16 2003 54 for I do this shit all day.
- 1:29:15I'm just like, okay, so if we're talking about the best overall
- 1:29:20athlete in the sport is an all yes.
- 1:29:23I she leaves article by one and 51 you Peter running start
- 1:29:27seeing what's right for you. I forgot about that.
- 1:29:34So like if we're talking about the best overall It is by far if
- 1:29:39you're going by the rules of their game, right?
- 1:29:43Yes. But they're not going to play by
- 1:29:44the rules of their game, they usually play by the best
- 1:29:47performance, okay? So let's call it with this.
- 1:29:51You look at the performances game has the best overall
- 1:29:54performance by far but she's in the throat, it's not glamorous
- 1:29:58about the window. Is that what?
- 1:30:03This is the reason I'm so fired up is like I'm just gonna be
- 1:30:06honest, this picks a scab from earlier in the summer.
- 1:30:10When Ryan krauser doesn't win, yes, the world Athletics.
- 1:30:14Yes, right? Like literally, that's what it
- 1:30:16is for me. Write this picks the same scab
- 1:30:18because at the end of the day like this is ridiculous.
- 1:30:20It's like they this isn't it's really hard but it's not that
- 1:30:24hard. It's not that hard to put for
- 1:30:26women on the stage and again it's just we don't we don't Not
- 1:30:31all agree on very many things. The fact that there should be
- 1:30:34four chairs on the women's side is a no-brainer.
- 1:30:37I think it's I think it's fantastic.
- 1:30:39I think it speaks to I mean it's a testament, they were three.
- 1:30:43Correct me if I'm wrong 3 instead of early records broken,
- 1:30:46Right? Way meant Rogers and Steiner in
- 1:30:52the intermediate goes with those are the three records that were
- 1:30:54broken, right? Right.
- 1:30:56So it's and then, I mean, I don't know what records were
- 1:31:02broken during a regular season, but to do it at the national
- 1:31:05media. I mean, that's well, I mean a a
- 1:31:08regular time. She threw.
- 1:31:10Yeah. Right.
- 1:31:12Okay. So so wait.
- 1:31:15No. In all seriousness.
- 1:31:17I think we will differ on this. So who governor and moving on?
- 1:31:23Who is your woman's Bowerman trophy holder?
- 1:31:29You gotta pick one Jazz or more for me.
- 1:31:43So you want my answer now? I mean, look, I'm a, I'm a
- 1:31:50pragmatic. I'm a pragmatic.
- 1:31:52Why doesn't know whether you wanted me to go.
- 1:31:54You want a big league? Oh yeah.
- 1:31:56Just like I'm a very pragmatic individual and I can separate
- 1:32:00emotions and all those things cam Rogers, I think is
- 1:32:03absolutely. Amazing.
- 1:32:06And she went to my alma mater. And a halt I think is the best
- 1:32:11athlete to be in a college uniform since Jackie.
- 1:32:15But Jasmin more. Listen, I put a premium on
- 1:32:19winning because I think people underestimate how hard it is to
- 1:32:21win. Jasmine, more did not lose to
- 1:32:24anyone. Yep, at the national meet.
- 1:32:28Nope, indoors or out. No, not my special events
- 1:32:32seriously lost ever. And the AAA and then the Triple
- 1:32:39G lost in long-term ones, I think.
- 1:32:40But at the end of the day is at the AT&T National League indoors
- 1:32:43and out Jasmine worn, multiple events, dominated the field.
- 1:32:47And for me, she gets my vote because she's got more titles
- 1:32:54than the rest of them and her performances are on par with the
- 1:32:59rest of them. And yeah, it's a really tough
- 1:33:01choice but it's just not that tough because if you just it set
- 1:33:05the rules, right? Whatever rules you set up as to
- 1:33:09how you win, you can come up with a winner because they all
- 1:33:13separate themselves. Right?
- 1:33:15For me, my answer and I love the other two, but my answer is
- 1:33:18Jasmine more because basically she won the most.
- 1:33:21Yes, she's the first female to ever go.
- 1:33:26When all four conference be mean that that's go, a 48.
- 1:33:31In or novel conference in distance, of course.
- 1:33:33Well in both camps, never been done before.
- 1:33:37Well, they do and on and on the runway in Birmingham, which none
- 1:33:40of us thinks is very good. She went to college with, right?
- 1:33:44All right, so it's like a fantastic.
- 1:33:55Yeah, I heard my name. Do you concur.
- 1:33:59Are you giving the trophy to Jasmine more?
- 1:34:01Yes. Okay, that's wild.
- 1:34:04I didn't think that we would all agree on that, for me.
- 1:34:07About at the end of the day, if we're splitting hairs and we
- 1:34:10are, it's about production. Yeah.
- 1:34:12Yeah. Produced the most, absolutely.
- 1:34:17So to me, it's Jasmine where did Jessica Moore scored 40 points
- 1:34:22at the national meet this year? Yes, yeah, yeah, where where it
- 1:34:27gets lost is like and, and Lamar we've had this conversation
- 1:34:30before is unfortunately, you Anna, do seven or ten events
- 1:34:35that count as one. You just lose that,
- 1:34:40unfortunately. Now to us as people we don't
- 1:34:44lose that bike, that doesn't get lost on us for points.
- 1:34:48You only get the ten, you don't get 70 or 100.
- 1:34:51So anyways, moving on, in order in order in order to appreciate
- 1:34:56Anna, you have to delve into all the individual stuff that she's
- 1:35:01done. Yes.
- 1:35:05Go to them in. Yeah.
- 1:35:08I've got Big Joe Aiden Owens. I know he's hyphenated his name
- 1:35:13at this point. Yeah, let me Del Army dollar
- 1:35:18meet that guy. Yeah.
- 1:35:20Then I know entry it was that for names.
- 1:35:24I feel like she said for me. Those flowers, she gets she was
- 1:35:27doing. She has two names.
- 1:35:38Okay. Good list.
- 1:35:44That's that's my list as well. My list as well.
- 1:35:54I think your tray and Big Joe for sure and I'm leaning towards
- 1:35:5880 because he went indoors and Outdoors, right?
- 1:36:00And he did hold the Collegiate record for about 3 minutes.
- 1:36:05But um, Because the throw a cow The discus God yeah he lost it.
- 1:36:27I actually have the same three shockingly enough.
- 1:36:31You guys better pick your choices differently.
- 1:36:35Governor do you have a difference in the 3?
- 1:36:39Um, so, the difference I have is that my third person, one indoor
- 1:36:52and outdoor What a couple hundred indoor and outdoor.
- 1:37:00Yes, Cunningham and owns. So I thought of that too often,
- 1:37:10as you left, Big, Joe out? Yes.
- 1:37:12Okay, I never actually, I'd like you can make an argument for
- 1:37:16that. I get that the absolutely ideal
- 1:37:20talking about the combined season in door.
- 1:37:23Now, yeah, if that's what the criteria is then, that's what
- 1:37:27the garage is supposed to be based on that criteria.
- 1:37:29You've got the best. So okay so then what we'll go
- 1:37:36backwards then governor who's who gets the trophy?
- 1:37:43I think it's between Cunningham and Owens and I think I think
- 1:37:51Cunningham's going to get it. Does it get your trophy?
- 1:37:57I mean, what Owens did is unreal like like that's that's that's
- 1:38:04crazy. But Trey Cunningham.
- 1:38:11So yeah, that's a tough one. Yeah, that is a tough one.
- 1:38:22I think Owens deserves it. I think Cunningham will get it.
- 1:38:28See a nicely? I think Owens my get it okay,
- 1:38:32because because see member Owens won indoors.
- 1:38:36Yeah in dramatic fashion. Yes right.
- 1:38:39Yep. He sets a clear record.
- 1:38:41It was eventually broken. Yeah then he ties the meet
- 1:38:43record of Ashton Eaton. My arms is that is that that wow
- 1:38:48to it, right? Yeah.
- 1:38:50Whereas tray, he just number two, all-time the the The worst
- 1:38:57possible place like that. But, you know, he's just number
- 1:39:01two that he didn't break the fact that
- 1:39:27Because trays Nemesis at the NCAA forever, was Grant
- 1:39:34Holloway? And because he could not break
- 1:39:37Grant Holloway's records indoor or out.
- 1:39:41I think you have to give the trophy to Aidan Owens because he
- 1:39:45tied. Ashton Eaton.
- 1:39:47Yeah. You see the effect like even a
- 1:39:50trade would have tied, Grant? I be like give the tray so at
- 1:39:54the end of the day, Grant Holloway who wins, right?
- 1:39:59Okay, is he in? And and trust me, there's going
- 1:40:01to be some faction of this committee that says, well, hate
- 1:40:05is record. Got broken, but his broken 'god
- 1:40:07compete against professionals, right?
- 1:40:11As he is over, you know who I am.
- 1:40:14I want to go on record that. I'm going to get my little
- 1:40:18brother here. Because a year ago, you couldn't
- 1:40:21stop talking about antes 4 by 4 by 4 by 4, no, creditor.
- 1:40:26Hey actually, that's awesome and you didn't break any records.
- 1:40:33I thought you was my God. Hey, I'm here.
- 1:40:51A, I will admit to complacency about greatness.
- 1:41:02I am remiss for not openly riding for the Gators 4x4, the
- 1:41:09way I did the 8 a and t 4 by 4 because unfortunately I am your
- 1:41:14little brother so I expected it so therefore when it happened I
- 1:41:18didn't jump up and down like I should have.
- 1:41:21So you are right for calling me out for that.
- 1:41:24Because the way I wrote, for AMT last year, I definitely should
- 1:41:27have wrote for the Gators this year.
- 1:41:29That is fair. Secondly, I will say this.
- 1:41:35A&T was Randolph, Ross, & the Pips, no distance to the other.
- 1:41:44No, no death, no. Okay, no.
- 1:41:47Okay. And I hope here's what I'm gonna
- 1:41:49tell, you know, those guys. I'm going to go Claire Huxtable
- 1:42:13on you right here. Oh my God, records.
- 1:42:15Let the record show. I don't care.
- 1:42:17Who's on the tape, we're in 258 and they did.
- 1:42:22I could we couldn't get it pretty we could even get all the
- 1:42:24rituals. In reference to mr.
- 1:42:46Dwight stones in the middle of the race, The White Stones had
- 1:42:51the nerve to say that Jacob, Miley threw away the Collegiate
- 1:42:54record, how the hell, you throw away record that you all as he
- 1:42:58did. So the record out there
- 1:43:01everybody he split faster at the NCAA championships than he did
- 1:43:05when we broke the Collegiate. And I know that he knows that
- 1:43:09because you know, we pay attention.
- 1:43:11To dude, in the booth telling America that don't know that.
- 1:43:14And that's a problem. Right.
- 1:43:16And and he also doesn't understand that if the, if there
- 1:43:21was a magical Stevie Gardner running out in front of champion
- 1:43:24this time, they might have run 257 game because they were with
- 1:43:28me on the record so everybody understands Jacob.
- 1:43:34Miley got like, so sick at the East Prima neat that we had to
- 1:43:39fly him back separately from the team.
- 1:43:42He lost 13 pounds Wolk. He couldn't train until the
- 1:43:47Saturday before we left to go to Nashville, so he had one trading
- 1:43:52day, lost 13 pounds, and Slick. 45 8, that's my dog, and not
- 1:43:58just that in what world is 45 8 throwing away.
- 1:44:01Anything, and the other thing is this is like, who told him we
- 1:44:09were trying to write the Collegiate record.
- 1:44:11He decided to go to that, they're not trying to win.
- 1:44:13They don't have to bring it to win to meet somebody to try
- 1:44:15them. The police record.
- 1:44:16They were just trying to win the race twice.
- 1:44:19So I'm going to I'm going to say this and then we're going to
- 1:44:21move on hey Dwight how many teams have run under 259 even
- 1:44:28once. Oh okay, so if the same group of
- 1:44:34four guys runs on two under 259 twice, why are you talking like
- 1:44:43that? That's like saying just because
- 1:44:44I didn't break the world record every time they're not good.
- 1:44:46Like what are we talking about? Great to 50 88 at the 10 at the
- 1:44:55chitlin. I mean look that me records.
- 1:44:57Not going down any time soon unless they do it again.
- 1:45:00With their group, and for the record, there, all four back
- 1:45:05next year explanatory. I mean, it's awesome, big lie.
- 1:45:26so, we just did the I thought I said it didn't get mine either
- 1:45:43unless I've just been listening and being a spectator, we know
- 1:45:48yours is a gator for why Ford Focus good culture.
- 1:45:57That was funny. That was funny.
- 1:46:00That was funny. I wish I could be a thing.
- 1:46:04I'm going to say that out loud Gator for my for being serious.
- 1:46:16And it's been good season. So I mean, just rewind.
- 1:46:20What I said last year about about AMT and just say it again
- 1:46:23about 40, Since I didn't pick them to be on the dais, I can't
- 1:46:31pick them. So I'm going to hit me but
- 1:46:36you're allowed because there's certain solution said you could.
- 1:46:39But I'm gonna think I'm gonna pick Aiden because here's the
- 1:46:44thing folks. Like we all saw the heroic
- 1:46:47Ridiculousness did endorse but Outdoors.
- 1:46:52He scores 85 and watches the Collegiate record, get watches
- 1:46:56the Collegiate record, get broken on his home track and
- 1:46:58then goes out and beats the Collegiate record, holder and
- 1:47:00pies. The world record holder, former
- 1:47:02world record holder, right? Like, we're done, like that.
- 1:47:08That's kind of it. Yeah, that was great.
- 1:47:16I was a visiting, I brought three moving on.
- 1:47:20Question, mark. Yes, I didn't last but not least
- 1:47:26tis the season. Y'all tis the season?
- 1:47:30The coaching carousel. You the music zip?
- 1:47:39It I mean and I'll say this. Okay.
- 1:47:43So can I I'm I want to say something.
- 1:47:47Let's get rid of this Narrative of the, I didn't see that
- 1:47:51coming. Why is this person leaving when
- 1:47:54they've got something so great or why would they go there?
- 1:47:57Because it's just that or it's horrible.
- 1:48:00Stop saying all that because if you're getting more money,
- 1:48:04different opportunities, this that and the third, whatever,
- 1:48:06they're up upgrading to whatever it means for them, let it be.
- 1:48:12You don't know what's going on in these people's lives.
- 1:48:15Maybe. A sees a change, maybe they're
- 1:48:17ready for different so that that looks good to them, right.
- 1:48:21Instead of ridiculing or like the shock eyes, we all know what
- 1:48:25that is right, but the narrative play out.
- 1:48:30Who knows? Like I just I I think I came to
- 1:48:33those dots. With the mumblings all the
- 1:48:39mumblings that happened this weekend at the meet, you know,
- 1:48:43and I think we Face, we pay special attention to that now
- 1:48:45because of the story of won't agree.
- 1:48:48I did. Anyways, well, so I want to
- 1:48:51throw. I want to talk about the
- 1:48:52Tennessee piece of the carousel because I think it's the most
- 1:48:57intriguing. Make no mistake about it.
- 1:49:00University of Tennessee, Danny White, the new lady has
- 1:49:05literally invented a Model in our sport.
- 1:49:10Hires Dwayne Ross should be the director of track and field and
- 1:49:14everybody thought that was the end of it.
- 1:49:16And then turns around and hires a second director of
- 1:49:21cross-country / distance, and it seemed to confuse a lot of
- 1:49:26people, but make no mistake about it.
- 1:49:28He did that people because of the looming impending changes
- 1:49:33that are coming. With, you know, NCAA in general
- 1:49:38and it's a new model. We haven't seen it.
- 1:49:41I don't know if it's good or bad, but it's interesting called
- 1:49:44timeout, sure. But it's not new in this
- 1:49:49example, the way it's structured.
- 1:49:53How did you live it? Because I've never seen that the
- 1:49:56way it was last when it was rolled out.
- 1:49:57I've never seen that when I first became the head coach of
- 1:50:01Florida for the men. I was the men's head coach.
- 1:50:04Tom Jones was in women's head coach.
- 1:50:06Jeff Pig was the head coach for cross-country, for men and
- 1:50:09women. Yes, sir.
- 1:50:10But you guys all had to share the same money, right?
- 1:50:13No. Did you know?
- 1:50:15He had his look, he had his own budget, he has on scholarships
- 1:50:20everything, totally separate. Oh, and when Jerry clay, when
- 1:50:25Jerry Clayton took the job at the University of Michigan, the
- 1:50:27exact same thing happened. Okay.
- 1:50:29So then y'all want educate me? Because last, I like, when did
- 1:50:33cross country get their own scholarship pool?
- 1:50:36No, no, no. They do know because because
- 1:50:38Jeremy said they get this many scholarships okay, but that's
- 1:50:43enough. But that's what I'm saying.
- 1:50:44The model that Tennessee has rolled out.
- 1:50:46If you read the press release and watch the interviews, it's
- 1:50:50separate. So it's a real.
- 1:50:54So is this those scholarships didn't come out of your 18-year
- 1:50:5712.6? Yes, they're not now they are.
- 1:51:04They has to be know what you're not telling you what he's saying
- 1:51:10is this they plan on funding cross-country with NI Elba.
- 1:51:16Yes. Well that's a different that's
- 1:51:18different discussion. Good luck with that.
- 1:51:29That's what I'm that's what I'm okay.
- 1:51:45The fund, the funding structure is different if they really did
- 1:51:49was but, but, but the myself in the framework, good luck being
- 1:51:53good in Cross Country, funding it within our them.
- 1:51:56Yeah. And I also last Alston money is
- 1:51:59what they announced. They're saying that the track
- 1:52:02and field side is going to do these scholarships and cross
- 1:52:07country is going to be funded a different way.
- 1:52:09So there is isolation. It's two bosses that have
- 1:52:12nothing to do with each other. Not in that was the same thing
- 1:52:16when our camp is there. No.
- 1:52:17No, we're sharing the same scholarship pool and now they're
- 1:52:20not that's Lou. What kind what kind of will be
- 1:52:23interesting to see? Because we were sharing the same
- 1:52:26scholarship pool but that we were okay.
- 1:52:30Oh my 12.6. He got three and it was his do
- 1:52:35whatever you want to do with. No, no.
- 1:52:36We all understand that. We've seen that over and over a
- 1:52:38whole bunch of places, but they're saying now is you get
- 1:52:41your 12.6, you don't get a human of your 3.
- 1:52:44None of that. And I think interesting it is
- 1:52:49interesting. I mean, if they pull, if they
- 1:52:50pull it off, it is definitely interesting, but we shall see.
- 1:52:55We shall be, I think, you know, with without trying to be
- 1:52:59disrespectful. That's cute.
- 1:53:02But you know this is the SEC and keep don't want to mislead here
- 1:53:08for it. And so, am I So, so look the
- 1:53:21here's what I find most interesting about this year's
- 1:53:26version of the coaching carousel, right?
- 1:53:29Because let's be honest, I don't know.
- 1:53:32This to be exactly factual will probably a very similar number
- 1:53:35of jobs come open in total every year.
- 1:53:38It's very similar right from year to year but the reason this
- 1:53:43year's Carousel is most interesting to me.
- 1:53:45Is because we are on the precipice of completely
- 1:53:49unchartered Waters, right? Like there's a gigantic
- 1:53:53boogeyman around the corner and we all know that it's it's real
- 1:53:57it's not some nobody made it up because the NCAA actually fired
- 1:54:03a warning shot. Like look we have assembled a
- 1:54:06committee that is going to completely revamp.
- 1:54:08The way we do business, a couple of things that we're thinking of
- 1:54:11doing are eliminating equivalency Sports.
- 1:54:16The limits on equivalency Sports eliminating, the number of Staff
- 1:54:19members in equivalents in an equivalency sports, right?
- 1:54:23And so you don't know who is truly in the know or what they
- 1:54:28may actually know. So, all of these jobs that are
- 1:54:33now open and will come will open as these things happen, they
- 1:54:38could very well be very, very different jobs.
- 1:54:42Also, the other part to the impending bogeyman that it's
- 1:54:45coming is conference, its restructuring, right?
- 1:54:49If you take a job at Houston. UCF.
- 1:54:55I know none of these jobs are open right now but well one is
- 1:54:58but Houston ucaf, Cincinnati and BYU, right?
- 1:55:05If you take one of those jobs, you're taking over a program
- 1:55:10that wasn't a power 5 and you're escorting them into a power five
- 1:55:15era. Right.
- 1:55:17So you're literally doing a job that has never been done on the
- 1:55:19campus. Not to mention the impending
- 1:55:24power 5 administered. When Oklahoma and Texas leave of
- 1:55:31probably this is my prognostication Memphis and USF
- 1:55:38to fill that League up to 16. But the point is there's a bunch
- 1:55:43of question marks out there that are attached to the jobs that
- 1:55:50people are taking going to take going to be open.
- 1:55:53And it's very, very, very interesting.
- 1:55:57And have we seen this many truly big jobs opening?
- 1:56:02I mean it's happening now. Oh hi falynn same time Auburn
- 1:56:07Ohio? Steve again okay it feels like
- 1:56:11it's nothing formal well but it was hoping for as long as to
- 1:56:25type her name. Got a longer name.
- 1:56:27Congratulations for taking over for the legend.
- 1:56:33That is, you know, Miss Dennis at Ohio State, you know, and you
- 1:56:39just see. So that means, you know,
- 1:56:40Southern Illinois is now open or whatever.
- 1:56:43Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:56:46It's a lot of stuff. Yeah, whole step.
- 1:56:50So nothing was going to say is whether it's the big jobs that
- 1:56:53are open. It's the ripples that have
- 1:56:55already been created because they Heads are leaving.
- 1:56:58So then staffs are getting vacated, Call It, Whatever, and,
- 1:57:03and whoever sticks together and who doesn't stick together and
- 1:57:06then who doesn't come back to coaching because now it's like
- 1:57:08the doors open. Do I just leave all the way you
- 1:57:11know those are the conversations that are happening because
- 1:57:13people are actually exhausted because we had covid off and now
- 1:57:17they know what like free time was.
- 1:57:20I mean Fireman, you look at this list.
- 1:57:25I mean, I would, I would go, I would say like it's one thing
- 1:57:31for assistant positions but okay, so we're going Auburn
- 1:57:35Yukon, Notre Dame. Southern Illinois.
- 1:57:40Drake Stephen F Austin, North Carolina A&T North Texas.
- 1:57:44Kent State. Georgia.
- 1:57:46Southern Boston College. Holy Cross.
- 1:57:50Montana, Utah. Central Arkansas.
- 1:57:54Townsend State Middle. Tennessee.
- 1:57:58JMU is cross Cincinnati. Crop.
- 1:58:04Using University is San Diego. So you energy and jobs.
- 1:58:16I mean, that is a lot of of open head jobs right now.
- 1:58:22Polly And Polly to Cal Poly, poly poly slow.
- 1:58:29Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:58:30And and let's be clear for the audience.
- 1:58:32There's like, six, or seven others that we are aware of
- 1:58:35that. We can't say out of respect
- 1:58:37situations. Right right, right, right.
- 1:58:42Because of other movements because of the initials, right?
- 1:58:45It's wild. And this is the part that people
- 1:58:49always forget, right? So we just name that list for,
- 1:58:51right? That they're still like that
- 1:58:54list is going to truncate to 80% because those people are all
- 1:58:59going to hire people. Yes right.
- 1:59:02So then there's like the big list is going to have another
- 1:59:06really big that gets to cut through another really big list
- 1:59:10because inevitably most of the people who are going to get
- 1:59:13hired for these jobs currently have jobs.
- 1:59:16Yep. So openings get created.
- 1:59:21So, we joked last year about, like, you know, somebody kept
- 1:59:25putting a quarter in because of the, I mean, I think the last
- 1:59:28person hired was like in February, I mean, I see the, I
- 1:59:33see the carousel spinning, the same way this year.
- 1:59:36Yeah. Right.
- 1:59:37Like we're here, we are in June and they will still be hot.
- 1:59:41Listen, there will be a track coach hired after January 1st.
- 1:59:46It's lie. We were just used to it now.
- 1:59:52Well, and again, not to neglect the other levels of jobs that
- 1:59:58are already open. I have been open and you know,
- 2:00:02will maybe remain open because everyone's taking their shots at
- 2:00:05these quote-unquote branded jobs, you know the you know, the
- 2:00:11one part about this that really makes all of this even more
- 2:00:14intriguing is that Almost all of these people coach people that
- 2:00:19were that are National level and the portal, you got to be in the
- 2:00:23portal by July first. Yeah.
- 2:00:27Right. So, like rule, that is a
- 2:00:29confirmed that it's good for. Okay, 14 million.
- 2:00:34What you have to be, you have to be in the portal by July 1st,
- 2:00:37right? So like your I mean, like look,
- 2:00:40let's say you just let you love your coach and your school
- 2:00:43right? Your coaches applying for jobs.
- 2:00:45Like you're almost Just forced to get in the portal.
- 2:00:50Mmm, right? If you're almost forced to get
- 2:00:53in the portal, what it's like. So, chess, chess move, because
- 2:01:01remember the conversation that took place in take it,
- 2:01:03remembering the conversation took place today.
- 2:01:06There are people in the portal who their contacts are locked.
- 2:01:10So are they it in there? Just in case?
- 2:01:12Or are they in there with destinations?
- 2:01:14That's my folks. We both probably most of them.
- 2:01:17Most of them have destinations, all right?
- 2:01:19Yeah. Because and again, if you don't
- 2:01:26mind to and You see, I would like to take a moment in our
- 2:01:30coaching Carousel discussion to put something to bed.
- 2:01:33I keep getting emails about us having a job.
- 2:01:38Open people, there are no jobs open at San Jose State
- 2:01:41University. That is not a stop.
- 2:01:47That is not a stop. I don't know where this is
- 2:01:49coming from. There are no jobs open.
- 2:01:51They're damn sure. No distance jobs open.
- 2:01:54Excellent job can going nowhere. There are no jobs.
- 2:01:58Open stopover or someone needs to tell quite immediately.
- 2:02:06Oh, that's funny. Yeah.
- 2:02:08See everyone thought this, this segment was going to be about
- 2:02:12all the jobs that are open and it was it.
- 2:02:14Listen. We're educating, y'all hear
- 2:02:16educating you. That's remember the, the start
- 2:02:19of this was just a to speak openly about experiences and the
- 2:02:24house and the, what's and the whatnots.
- 2:02:28This is still in it. Like if you all want to know
- 2:02:30about the job listings and CWA Marketplace you know, the more
- 2:02:36informal of, let's run Twitter, the amongst the groups or get in
- 2:02:41a circle. We will discuss the job openings
- 2:02:44and the juiciness of them at time to time, but things to
- 2:02:47reflect them, right? Don't don't do that.
- 2:02:50That's wrong. It's wrong.
- 2:02:51No, no, let's not but, I mean, depending on who you are, and
- 2:02:55that's the credible source. So, Yeah, yeah.
- 2:03:00No. I know in sakes of the time I'm
- 2:03:07going to forego, would you rather again?
- 2:03:10And I am going to make a call and give a blanket heartbeat
- 2:03:15props with the roller coaster that we just called the NCAA
- 2:03:20outdoor meet. I'd like to give heartbeat props
- 2:03:22to the quote unquote and I'm not calling them.
- 2:03:25I'm giving them the name that everybody else has given them
- 2:03:27smaller. Programs who scored actual
- 2:03:32points chunks of points, where they were the equivalent to a
- 2:03:36bigger school. Okay.
- 2:03:38So I'm not going to name names that are going to go through it.
- 2:03:40But you know, who you are all the things Montana state scored
- 2:03:44the exact same amount of points at University of Oregon.
- 2:03:47So, Is again, everyone took the time
- 2:04:00to get better at the pandemic. Everybody took time to make
- 2:04:03themselves better athlete. Could feel like everybody towed
- 2:04:06up to the line like, you like to say Clyde and competed when they
- 2:04:08needed to compete the most. So kudos to everyone, but
- 2:04:12specifically the quote unquote smaller programs, who did work.
- 2:04:16Sorry I love you too, but I know, I know I was trying to get
- 2:04:21it but the universal heartbeat props for the show, have to go
- 2:04:23to the sweep. And search.
- 2:04:28I mean that we could do that in the beginning.
- 2:04:47Yeah, no, no, no, listen. You guys know I don't I don't
- 2:04:56Share this kind of stuff very often but I have a legitimate RV
- 2:04:59problems with my dad. And it's not like, it's a look,
- 2:05:04normally, I would just roll with it, but listen, tomorrow's, my
- 2:05:09oldest, my oldest, son's birthday.
- 2:05:12And in just look, I'm going to roll over and show my
- 2:05:18underbelly. And I'm just going to say this
- 2:05:20my heartbeat props. Go out to that young man,
- 2:05:22because in the last seven days, He has been cut.
- 2:05:28Really so he was released reacquired reassigned and
- 2:05:33promoted. and I just, I just don't think people understand.
- 2:05:45How hard a thing that is, you know, I said to my son, I
- 2:05:52understand right, I understand how you feel and he said to me,
- 2:05:57do you? And I said, yeah, I have for
- 2:06:00sure been where you are and felt what you felt and he said to me,
- 2:06:07what have you ever been cut from?
- 2:06:13And I said being fired, I guess, isn't the same as being cut. so,
- 2:06:20I stand corrected that young man's resilience is, I draw I
- 2:06:31draw energy from it. I really do because it is it is
- 2:06:38very difficult thing to try to chase your life dream and not
- 2:06:44have full control over whether you get to chase it or not.
- 2:06:49And so I am extremely proud of him and you keep, you keep
- 2:06:56hitting balls and catching balls young man and happy birthday.
- 2:07:02To every day one mr. Zack, well, mr.
- 2:07:04Zachary, Christopher office. Oh, I guess I could put them out
- 2:07:08there. Like a middle name.
- 2:07:09That's messed up. It's okay.
- 2:07:16Unless the man got something. I'm good.
- 2:07:18I'm good, I'm good. Got it.
- 2:07:21Well, Thank you all. It's been fun.
- 2:07:27We thank you to those who are commenting.
- 2:07:29We will get your questions. We just had that big meat to
- 2:07:33recap so well, resume, our normal programming after this
- 2:07:36week. So that's fun.
- 2:07:38Have a great week, hope your get catching up on rest and we'll
- 2:07:42see you again soon. Bye, everyone.
- 2:07:46Later. The soft are small.
- 2:08:46We put it in slow-mo. What you fast for athletics.
- 2:08:50I'll see the task force. The soft are small.
- 2:08:46We put it in slow-mo. What you fast for athletics.
- 2:08:50I'll see the task force.