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Ep. 387: Rut Fresh Radio 11/11/20 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three
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Speaker 1: and today we're back with another fresh radio focused episode
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Speaker 1: in which we are hearing from deer hunters all across
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Speaker 1: the country on current deer activity conditions, behaviors, and the
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Speaker 1: tactics that are working right now. All right, welcome to
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Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by on X.
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Speaker 1: We're here for a mid November edition of RUT Fresh
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Speaker 1: Radio in which we are getting updates from across the
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Speaker 1: country on deer activity, conditions, behavior, what's happening right now?
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Speaker 1: And Spencer, what's happening right now is that you killed buck. Congratulations,
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Speaker 1: my friend, thank you, thank you. Um and I can
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Speaker 1: already tell there's a little bit more energy in this
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Speaker 1: intro by you, Mark, because you also killed the buck. Yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: we both did it. We finally got the job done. UM.
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Speaker 1: I can't give too many details away because I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: share the whole story on the next episode of the podcast,
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Speaker 1: the full episode. But yeah, I killed the buck. I
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Speaker 1: can tell you. It was on the Back forty. We
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Speaker 1: had a great rutt hunt out there, so excited to
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Speaker 1: share that story. And while we're talking back forty, I'll
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Speaker 1: just plug it right now. The first episode of season
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Speaker 1: two of The Back forty just dropped over the weekend,
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Speaker 1: So go over to the Meat Eater YouTube channel check
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Speaker 1: it out. Uh, we're getting good feedback on so far.
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Speaker 1: I'm really happy how things have turned out. And um,
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Speaker 1: this is gonna give you this episode. If you watch it,
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Speaker 1: we'll give you some great background as to you what
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Speaker 1: led to some of the success that I just recently had.
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Speaker 1: So make sure you check that out before listening to
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Speaker 1: our next episode of the podcast because it will give
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Speaker 1: you some nice context. So yeah, I want more details
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Speaker 1: on it though, like um, or episodes every Sunday? Is
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Speaker 1: that correct? And like when do the episodes with hunting start?
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Speaker 1: That's a great point. Thank you, Spencer, You're always on
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Speaker 1: top of it. Um. Yes, the new episodes will be
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Speaker 1: coming out every Sunday from now on through the next
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Speaker 1: two months or so a month and a half or so,
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Speaker 1: I guess. So yeah, this coming Sunday will be another
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Speaker 1: episode and we're gonna have uh, several episodes of prep.
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Speaker 1: So we've got an episode that's all about some of
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Speaker 1: the new habit at work we did this summer. There's
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Speaker 1: another episode about all the hunting preparations we did and
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Speaker 1: some of the strategy behind why we're hunting, where we're hunting,
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Speaker 1: how we're hunting. Uh. And then you're gonna see an
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Speaker 1: episode with my dad. My dad and I had a
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Speaker 1: really cool hunt out there, and as we talked about
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Speaker 1: on a previous episode of the show, he killed his
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Speaker 1: first deer with arshow equipment, his biggest buck ever. Then
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Speaker 1: you're gonna see our rut hunt after that, um, and
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Speaker 1: then one more or two more possibly later in the year.
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Speaker 1: So lots to look forward to and uh so far
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Speaker 1: shaped up to be a really a really cool season
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Speaker 1: Digging Mark already loved episode one and I'm looking forward
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Speaker 1: to the rest to come. UM, So thanks man. Like,
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Speaker 1: what details can you share so far about the deer
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Speaker 1: that you killed on the back forty? Well, how about
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Speaker 1: I'll just tell you about the dear activity on the
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Speaker 1: back forty which, um, over the last week while we
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Speaker 1: were out there hunting, we were dealing with that warm
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Speaker 1: spell that I'm sure a lot of people across the country.
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Speaker 1: We're dealing with um. And so as we discussed the
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Speaker 1: you know, last episode of this episode, last episode of
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Speaker 1: this show, we talked about how it's probably in a
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Speaker 1: slow deer movement, but the rut is still happening, right,
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Speaker 1: They still have to breathe. The show will go al.
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Speaker 1: It's just maybe not going to be quite as action
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Speaker 1: packed during the middle of the day. And that's definitely
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Speaker 1: what we experienced. We saw good activity the first couple
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Speaker 1: of hours in the morning while it's still relatively cool,
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Speaker 1: but then it died down dramatically. You know, once you
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Speaker 1: got to I don't know what time it would be,
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Speaker 1: would be like eight thirty somewhere around there. It slowed
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Speaker 1: down quite a bit. And then really we saw very
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Speaker 1: little evening activity till the last forty five minutes to
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Speaker 1: half hour. A couple of nights it was the last
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Speaker 1: ten minutes until we saw deer um. But during those
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Speaker 1: little moments you would see flurries of chasing and running
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Speaker 1: activity and all that kind of stuff. And and eventually
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Speaker 1: I did have a morning where there was there was
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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of good stuff going on. So that
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Speaker 1: was last week, now, Yester, No today, a cold front hip.
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Speaker 1: So um, you know, I'll tell you that over the
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Speaker 1: past week, the deer activity in Michigan with that cold
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Speaker 1: front or with that warm front sorry, was probably like
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Speaker 1: a six. Right, It wasn't that great except for those
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Speaker 1: flurries in the morning and evening. But now with the
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Speaker 1: cold front, I think things have really snapped. And uh,
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Speaker 1: I might maybe I'm jumping the gun here, Spencer, but
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a prediction for the next seven days.
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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see really good activity, um eight nine,
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Speaker 1: that kind of level because you're getting you know, the
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Speaker 1: great right activity mixed with a great cold front. Um,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna unleash things at least until gun season or
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Speaker 1: other things like that hunting pressure change stuff, which in Michigan.
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Speaker 1: That's something that's happened this weekend. Yeah, you know, I
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Speaker 1: think too often we think over the rut as like
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Speaker 1: this lightbulb thing that you turn on and off, and
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Speaker 1: that's not the case. But damn it, it really feels
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Speaker 1: like it this year. Um, with the really warm weather
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Speaker 1: that we had and then the like great cold front
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Speaker 1: that came through during what is normally like you know,
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Speaker 1: the maybe three or four best day stretch of the
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Speaker 1: rout to begin with for the midwest. Um, it it
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Speaker 1: felt like a lightbulb moment this year for just like
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Speaker 1: turning it on and and deer movement happening across the country. Yes,
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Speaker 1: so so is that what triggered your success? Well, I
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Speaker 1: had been hunting for nine or ten days in South Dakota,
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Speaker 1: UM and I was unsuccessful for the first um every
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Speaker 1: day except for the last one. And what really triggered
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Speaker 1: my success was picking up a rifle. Turns out that
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Speaker 1: makes a big difference. I was bow hunting for the
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Speaker 1: majority of that trip UM, and then the last two
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Speaker 1: days when I picked up the rifle, that was when
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Speaker 1: I ended up killing a deer UM. And I didn't
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Speaker 1: see a ton of like textbook rutting activity during that
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Speaker 1: period in South Dakota UM. But what I did see,
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Speaker 1: and this is ultimately what really matters, is that bucks
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Speaker 1: became quite visible in early in the day and late
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Speaker 1: in the day. UM. You know, I didn't like witness
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Speaker 1: the crazy uh knockdown, drag out fight or breeding a
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Speaker 1: dough um or anything like that, but bucks had become
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Speaker 1: highly visible, especially over this last three or four days UM,
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Speaker 1: when like the weather cooperated a little bit more. And
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Speaker 1: you know in the in the past, Mark, I did
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Speaker 1: an article for the media dot com on the best
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Speaker 1: day of the white tail rot and I asked ten
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Speaker 1: of the best white tail hunters I know, including yourself, like,
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Speaker 1: what is your favorite day of the rot um? And
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Speaker 1: it was seven out of ten of them picked a
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Speaker 1: date between November seven and November ten. And so when
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Speaker 1: you you have that is like historically an amazing time
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Speaker 1: with the great weather. That's why I say like this
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Speaker 1: felt like that on and off switch this year. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so we we had that that passed not for a
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Speaker 1: lot of people. Some people listen to this might there
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Speaker 1: the cold from the east coast is hitting like right now,
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Speaker 1: so they might be just a experiencing that in the
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Speaker 1: coming hours or days. But what do we have to
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Speaker 1: look forward to, Spencer, Um, We're coming into a new
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Speaker 1: phase of the rut. Did anyone that we talked to
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Speaker 1: as far as guests, um talk about this next phase
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Speaker 1: that some people like to refer to as the lockdown? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: a little bit, Um, And who we talked to you
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Speaker 1: this week, it's key is Keith Robinson from the Hunting
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Speaker 1: Public you know, Ohio. Michael Hans Sucker from Heartland bow
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Speaker 1: Hunter in Colorado, Vince Bodiata in Tennessee, and then Dan
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Speaker 1: Johnson in Iowa from Nine Finger Chronicles. Now, Dan is
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Speaker 1: the last interview that you'll hear, and I asked him
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Speaker 1: what his thoughts are on Lockdown and he did a
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Speaker 1: great job of of summing up my thoughts as well.
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Speaker 1: But Mark, I'd like to hear you talk about Lockdown
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Speaker 1: a little bit, or what hunters referred to as lockdown
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Speaker 1: in sort of the same way that hunters referred to
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Speaker 1: you know, mid October is the October Lwell, is it
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Speaker 1: more of a thing that like hunters have invented or
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Speaker 1: is there some reality behind like this new phase of
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Speaker 1: it are out that we're entering. Man, there's a little
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Speaker 1: bit of both. Um. Basically, it's it's a fancy name
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Speaker 1: for something that that happens to some degree. Right, If
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Speaker 1: if you look at the number of does being bred
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Speaker 1: or the numbers of bucks that are locked onto a
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Speaker 1: dough and breeding her, that looks if you were to
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Speaker 1: graph that out on a line chart, you would see
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Speaker 1: the shape suchly of a bell where at some point
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Speaker 1: in late October or in October, somewhere you'd start seeing
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Speaker 1: a few deer getting bred, and then as you get
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Speaker 1: closer and closer to mid November, more and more and
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Speaker 1: more and more deer being bred, so that that curve
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Speaker 1: is rising and rising and rising, and then eventually it's
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Speaker 1: going to peak. And when that number of does being
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Speaker 1: bred peaks, that means there's there's more active breeding pairs
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Speaker 1: of deer kind of locked down than any other time
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Speaker 1: of the year. And and any experience, dear that has
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Speaker 1: seen this, we'll know what we're talking about when I
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Speaker 1: say locked down. When a buck is with a dough
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Speaker 1: and that dough is ready to breed, they don't go
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Speaker 1: to They typically won't be running around all over the
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Speaker 1: place doing the crazy stuff. Usually when a buck and
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Speaker 1: a doll or coupled and they're going to start to
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Speaker 1: breed or are, they move very little. Oftentimes these bucks
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Speaker 1: will try to corral the dough into a little patch
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Speaker 1: of cover and hunker down for a while, or they're
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Speaker 1: standing in the middle of a field and try to
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Speaker 1: keep her there. Many times he'll try to keep her
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Speaker 1: away from other deers, so it will be in some
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Speaker 1: weird off the wall place. Um. But when you get
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Speaker 1: to the point in the season where the very most
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Speaker 1: deer in that kind of state, you're naturally just going
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Speaker 1: to see a little bit less dear movement because there's
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Speaker 1: some number of bucks and doughs that are in this
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Speaker 1: quote unquote lockdown. But I think the important thing to
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Speaker 1: remember is that while that is a reality that every property,
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Speaker 1: every part of the country, there will be some point
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Speaker 1: in the year where there will be more bucks and
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Speaker 1: does locked down than any other point. Right, We're all
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Speaker 1: going to reach a peak at some point, and for
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Speaker 1: most parts of the country, that happens in mid November,
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Speaker 1: give or take a few days. Um, while that is happening,
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Speaker 1: you've got to remember that it's not like they're all
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Speaker 1: on a calendar and that when they see it's November
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Speaker 1: or November or November six, all the bucks say, okay, guys,
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Speaker 1: it's the lockdown. Let's all go hang out in our
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Speaker 1: little patch of Russian olive and not leave for the
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Speaker 1: next two days. No, there's gonna be some bucks that
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Speaker 1: are locked down, there's gonna be others that are gonna
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Speaker 1: be looking for does. There's gonna be other doughs running around.
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Speaker 1: There's still gonna be stuff going on. Um, So you
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Speaker 1: don't want to let your guard down or get lazy
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Speaker 1: or give up on it just because somebody says, Oh,
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Speaker 1: it's the lockdown, it's gonna be slower. Uh No. You
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Speaker 1: can have days during the middle of November just as
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Speaker 1: crazy as November seven. Um, you just gotta be out
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Speaker 1: there because, as you mentioned, Spencer, the rut can be
11:54
Speaker 1: on and off. It can be a light switch, but
11:56
Speaker 1: it can also be here and there. You could be
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Speaker 1: in one place and it's Nanna's and you could be
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Speaker 1: four yards away and it could be dead. So there's
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Speaker 1: so many different variables that the day on the calendar.
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Speaker 1: While it could be indicative of what you might expect
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Speaker 1: and what you um can predict a little, you still
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Speaker 1: just never know. I mean it is every day is
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Speaker 1: full of potential. So my thoughts during the lockdown are
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Speaker 1: keep at it just as if it was any other
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Speaker 1: time of the rut, because anything is still possible at
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Speaker 1: that point. Um. There are certain things you can do.
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Speaker 1: If you see a locked down dough and buck, Um,
12:34
Speaker 1: you kind of have a unique opportunity sometimes because those deer.
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Speaker 1: If you see a bucket a dough there together in
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Speaker 1: that kind of way and not moving a lot or
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Speaker 1: that buck is not leaving that dough at all, or
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Speaker 1: she's standing there and letting him breed. If you see that,
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Speaker 1: you can make a few assumptions. One assumption you can
12:51
Speaker 1: make is that they're probably gonna stick to the same
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Speaker 1: general area for a day or two. Um. I've found
12:57
Speaker 1: many times I've seen this and and I'll see him
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Speaker 1: go out one way. In the next morning, I see
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Speaker 1: him come back the same way or close to it.
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Speaker 1: So usually a buck will be with a dough for
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Speaker 1: something like twenty four or forty eight hours, give or take.
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Speaker 1: So if I see that, I all of a sudden, no, okay,
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Speaker 1: I need to super focus on this little zone and think,
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Speaker 1: what's that. What's this couple gonna do. They're gonna maybe
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Speaker 1: stay in this little off the wall piece of cover,
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Speaker 1: or if I saw them leave a little patch of
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Speaker 1: cover and go into a corn field, I'm gonna make
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Speaker 1: a strong bet that'll be back into that little patch
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Speaker 1: of cover the next morning. So you can take advantage
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Speaker 1: of that. Other things we've talked on previous podcasts about
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Speaker 1: you can get creative if you see a buck betted
13:34
Speaker 1: with a dough and it's windy and you've got open
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Speaker 1: terrain and a little bit of cover, you can make
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Speaker 1: a spot and stock on them because they're probably not
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Speaker 1: going anywhere. Um. So there's certain things once you start
13:44
Speaker 1: to learn how dear behavior this time of year, they
13:46
Speaker 1: give you extra opportunities. Uh So the point being is
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Speaker 1: that don't look at this is some kind of dead
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Speaker 1: zone or this dreary part of the season. No, it
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Speaker 1: can be great. Just know that it's a little bit different. Yeah. Um,
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Speaker 1: like you described there, it's just largely misunderstood. And mid
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Speaker 1: November is still a great time to be in the woods. Um.
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Speaker 1: But if you're listening to this and you still wanted
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Speaker 1: more information on like what to do in mid November,
14:14
Speaker 1: you haven't had success yet, but you're gonna be in
14:16
Speaker 1: the woods this weekend and you know you want to
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Speaker 1: be more prepared. There's three articles on the mediator dot
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Speaker 1: com that I would highly suggest reading and they're all
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Speaker 1: written by Mark Kenyon. One of them is what is
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Speaker 1: the white Tail Lockdown? That's exactly what it sounds like.
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Speaker 1: It talks about this misunderstood phase of the rut. Another
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Speaker 1: one is what I've learned watching Do Your Have Sex Um,
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Speaker 1: which kind of touches on the scandalous title. Scandalous title,
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Speaker 1: but informative article. Uh It's it's a great piece and
14:47
Speaker 1: it talks about what you have observed mark Um watching
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Speaker 1: deer during this lockdown phase and how hunters can take
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Speaker 1: advantage of it. And then the third one is one
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Speaker 1: that you recently published, and that's how to Reap a
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Speaker 1: White Tailed book, which is a topic that, as you
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Speaker 1: talk about in the article, can be used when you
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Speaker 1: witness a buck in a dough lockdown. Together. So those
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Speaker 1: are three articles I would suggest checking out at the
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Speaker 1: meat Eatter dot com. Those are some great recommendation, Spencer,
15:16
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you I forgot to mention it on
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Speaker 1: the podcast whenever it was that I talked about my
15:22
Speaker 1: recent hunts chasing tran Um. I actually saw him, ah
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Speaker 1: when it was a week or two ago. He was
15:29
Speaker 1: locked on a doll and I tried to stalk in
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Speaker 1: on them, and while I wasn't able to get quite
15:35
Speaker 1: close enough, I did actually see him breeding her. Uh
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Speaker 1: So that's the second time in three years that I've
15:41
Speaker 1: seen the big mature buck do that. Um. So I
15:44
Speaker 1: might be able to write an update to that article
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Speaker 1: part two someday because it keeps unhappening. You're an expert
15:50
Speaker 1: in the subject matter now, but I think that's enough
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Speaker 1: for mus Mark. Let's get to this week's interviews. Sounds good,
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Speaker 1: Thanks Spencer. This week's interviews are is any by trophy Ridge.
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Speaker 1: and joining us on the line first is Keith Robinson
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Speaker 1: from the Hunting Public in Ohio. Now, Keith in Ohio,
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Speaker 1: what would you say the buck activity is ben lately?
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Speaker 1: On a scale of one to ten, Oh, I'd say,
16:29
Speaker 1: if you're in the right area, if you're in the
16:31
Speaker 1: most dear, I would say it was right around a
16:34
Speaker 1: seven or eight for us, something like that. But we
16:36
Speaker 1: also ran into spots where if we weren't running into
16:39
Speaker 1: the maximount of deer, it was like a zero in
16:42
Speaker 1: some places. So I mean, if you're finding the right stuff,
16:45
Speaker 1: it was still seven, eight, even nine in some spots.
16:47
Speaker 1: I'd say if you were to put a label on
16:50
Speaker 1: the phase of the rut that Ohio was currently in,
16:53
Speaker 1: what would you call it. I would say, I still
16:55
Speaker 1: want to say it's like kind of like a peak
16:57
Speaker 1: rut type of situation. It's just like, obviously conditions were
17:00
Speaker 1: so adverse for everyone in the Midwest, But um, I
17:04
Speaker 1: think the movement was affected for for the dos and
17:07
Speaker 1: for the cruising bucks in the time and terms of
17:10
Speaker 1: the time of day and everything. But I would say
17:11
Speaker 1: that the doughs are still going into their same cycles
17:14
Speaker 1: and peat on the same on the same time frame,
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Speaker 1: So I would say it's it's still a peak rut
17:19
Speaker 1: type of type of rut time span, however you want
17:22
Speaker 1: to say it. But I would say with some weather change,
17:26
Speaker 1: it's probably going to spike up a little bit more
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Speaker 1: within these next seven days going into the later November
17:32
Speaker 1: time frame. When you're doing some mean seasons scouting on
17:35
Speaker 1: public land during peak rut, what sorts of things are
17:38
Speaker 1: you looking for? Stuff we were running into We were
17:41
Speaker 1: running into a lot of a lot more scrapes than
17:43
Speaker 1: rubs actually, and we actually struggled to find sign. We
17:46
Speaker 1: were in a pretty unique area. It was a pretty
17:49
Speaker 1: low deer density area, which Ohio I think is pretty
17:52
Speaker 1: well known for having a pretty good deer herd um
17:55
Speaker 1: but we were in a pretty low dear population area,
17:57
Speaker 1: so we were struggling to find sign that we were
17:59
Speaker 1: used to finding in a lot of the areas. But
18:02
Speaker 1: we pretty much just focused on finding the the hottest
18:05
Speaker 1: sign that we could find and trying to interpret that
18:07
Speaker 1: and what that fign meant and where it's coming from,
18:10
Speaker 1: where the deer going to be close to, and so
18:12
Speaker 1: we're running into a lot more a lot more scrapes
18:15
Speaker 1: that seemed like we can train these deer back to
18:18
Speaker 1: what ridge they're betting on, where the does are betting at,
18:21
Speaker 1: and try to find those cruising routes of what those
18:23
Speaker 1: bucks are doing. Pretty much working around singular ridges where
18:27
Speaker 1: the deer are getting pushed into where the where those
18:29
Speaker 1: centralized food sources are, which is mostly the red oaks,
18:32
Speaker 1: scarlet oaks, and black oaks right now, I would say,
18:35
Speaker 1: when you're looking in a new place on on X
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Speaker 1: and you're trying to find dough betting to haunt, what
18:40
Speaker 1: sorts of things are you looking for on that aerial imagery. Uh,
18:44
Speaker 1: the aerial imagery, I think if you go to the
18:46
Speaker 1: hybrid view the the oak stick out a bunch, you
18:49
Speaker 1: can you can kind of see the maple poplar. That
18:51
Speaker 1: brighter green stuff is a lot of that deadwood. We
18:54
Speaker 1: call it deadwoods, like the maple poplar stuff where the
18:56
Speaker 1: deer aren't spending a ton of time. And if you
18:59
Speaker 1: look for darker like the bigger tree canopy areas where
19:02
Speaker 1: you find in the darker colored trees, you find a
19:05
Speaker 1: lot more of the oak stuff. And if it's lower
19:07
Speaker 1: on the slope, it's going to be more likely it's
19:09
Speaker 1: going to be red oaks and everything, which is a
19:13
Speaker 1: lot of this area. At least the red oaks are
19:16
Speaker 1: still dropping very heavily right now. It's still a huge
19:19
Speaker 1: food source right now. And then higher on the slope,
19:21
Speaker 1: if you're still finding those oak canopies, they're probably gonna
19:24
Speaker 1: be scarlet oak, chestnut oak, black oak, and the scarlet
19:29
Speaker 1: oak we found is still dropping a lot, and the
19:31
Speaker 1: deer is still feeding pretty much on any oak stand
19:33
Speaker 1: you're gonna find, there's gonna be uh those betting within
19:37
Speaker 1: the area if if there's enough cover, if the pressure
19:40
Speaker 1: isn't being pushed into there. But there's plenty of food
19:42
Speaker 1: sources in these big woods areas. It's just a matter
19:45
Speaker 1: of finding where they're getting pushed into. Because there's going
19:49
Speaker 1: to be the certain feed trees as biggest, biggest producing
19:53
Speaker 1: oak trees that you're gonna find. And like I said,
19:55
Speaker 1: the red oaks seem to be kind of the ones
19:57
Speaker 1: that the beer focusing on the mostly we saw. We
20:00
Speaker 1: watched deer walking into these huge red oaks and you
20:03
Speaker 1: could tell it could be kind of a centralized feed tree.
20:05
Speaker 1: So it's just a matter of focusing on the best
20:09
Speaker 1: freshest feeding sign that you can find that is far
20:12
Speaker 1: away from whatever pressure you're receiving in that area. You
20:16
Speaker 1: and your brother and everyone else from the hunting pole
20:18
Speaker 1: looked as a lot of bow hunting from the ground.
20:20
Speaker 1: What do those setups look like in mid November? So
20:24
Speaker 1: this last week was obviously, as everyone knows, it's very
20:28
Speaker 1: hot and uh, pretty pretty weird time to be hunting
20:31
Speaker 1: on the ground because not so much because of the heat,
20:33
Speaker 1: but just because of how dry, how dry and still.
20:36
Speaker 1: It was. The November first hunt my brother Ben and
20:40
Speaker 1: I had was the perfect ground hunting. Ground hunting day.
20:44
Speaker 1: It was like winds and it was so easy. You
20:47
Speaker 1: can get away with moving and everything. You can make setups.
20:50
Speaker 1: You can still hunt through the woods and everything. You
20:52
Speaker 1: can move around, you can talk and pretty much everything
20:55
Speaker 1: the deer, I'm gonna know that you're even around. But
20:57
Speaker 1: as soon as like two days after that, we had
21:00
Speaker 1: seven days stretch of like seventy five degrees and two
21:04
Speaker 1: mile light variable winds, and you take one step in
21:08
Speaker 1: the woods and you have all those that those fresh
21:10
Speaker 1: leaves that had just fallen. You're crunching through the woods,
21:12
Speaker 1: and deer can hear you from four or yards away
21:14
Speaker 1: in the right scenarios. So it's uh. When Zack and
21:19
Speaker 1: I were hunting last week, we were pretty much trying
21:21
Speaker 1: to find buck intersecting trails where they're cruising, cruising along,
21:27
Speaker 1: just checking dough trails running back up into the big
21:31
Speaker 1: oak benches on the on those centralized ridges around water,
21:35
Speaker 1: and we pretty much just tried to set up on
21:36
Speaker 1: buck cruising areas and tried not to move around too
21:39
Speaker 1: much and that hot, dry stuff, because it's really hard
21:42
Speaker 1: to not be spooking deer. But we just have some
21:44
Speaker 1: success doing that, sitting those shadows, pinch points, those like
21:49
Speaker 1: classic ruts, set up areas and tried not moving around
21:54
Speaker 1: too much and tried doing just like calling sequences and
21:57
Speaker 1: sitting for a longer amount of time, which is it's
22:00
Speaker 1: tougher to do for us because it's harder to sit
22:02
Speaker 1: still for us, But I think making those setups is
22:07
Speaker 1: much more efficient when you're dealing with stuff that we're
22:10
Speaker 1: dealing with out there. It was pretty tough for us
22:12
Speaker 1: to do, but we did have some success doing it
22:15
Speaker 1: going forward. Then in the sinks week or so, what
22:17
Speaker 1: do you think that bucket TVT is going to be
22:19
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten in Ohio? I
22:22
Speaker 1: would anticipate pretty high, Like I would say nine or ten.
22:26
Speaker 1: I would think this next seven days is probably gonna
22:29
Speaker 1: be some of the hottest stuff in my opinion, just
22:31
Speaker 1: because we have we've had that hot weather leading up
22:34
Speaker 1: to this, that hot still consistent weather, and now right
22:37
Speaker 1: now there's that cold friends coming in. It's raining all day,
22:39
Speaker 1: and this next seven days looks like it's going to
22:42
Speaker 1: be some pretty awesome stuff. So I'm really looking forward
22:44
Speaker 1: to seeing if I'm right about that. But I would
22:47
Speaker 1: say right around and nine if I had to guess. Alright,
22:50
Speaker 1: Keith would like your optimism. Good luck to even the
22:52
Speaker 1: guys from the hunting public. Thanks for joining me, Thank
22:55
Speaker 1: you very much, you too, alright, and joining us online.
22:59
Speaker 1: Next is Mike on Sucker from Heartland bow hunter in Colorado. Now,
23:03
Speaker 1: Mike in Colorado, what would you say the buck activity
23:05
Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale of one to ten, Oh, man,
23:09
Speaker 1: I probably had to say it's been probably uh seven,
23:13
Speaker 1: six or seven. Yeah, I mean, um, you know, the
23:17
Speaker 1: rest dranking up and and the deer are definitely seeking,
23:19
Speaker 1: but it's been it's been kind of knocked back by
23:22
Speaker 1: some warmer weather, um lately and uh, you know, so
23:26
Speaker 1: the fortunately it cools off in the evenings of the morning.
23:30
Speaker 1: You know, overnights of the mornings have been a little
23:32
Speaker 1: more productive, but the evenings have been kind of basically
23:36
Speaker 1: the last you know, thirty minutes utes an hour movement.
23:40
Speaker 1: You tagged an awesome buck this last weekend. Tell us
23:43
Speaker 1: about that set up and about that hunt. So, yeah,
23:46
Speaker 1: it was. It was a pretty pretty awesome hunt. We're hunting, um,
23:49
Speaker 1: you know, basically river bottom ground, so nothing but cotton
23:52
Speaker 1: woods and that's about it. And so we actually had
23:56
Speaker 1: set up on a fence gap um, on the edge
23:59
Speaker 1: of a ag pivot and a bunch of cover to
24:03
Speaker 1: our to our south, food to our north, and um,
24:08
Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those deals we had been
24:09
Speaker 1: running cameras all along the levee to the river and
24:14
Speaker 1: just kind of monitoring movement, trying to see what areas
24:17
Speaker 1: bucks were using the most. Obviously it's the rout, so
24:20
Speaker 1: they're not crazy patternable, but um, we got got a
24:23
Speaker 1: big buck on trail camera the night before, so we
24:26
Speaker 1: decided to hang a set and hunt that fence gap.
24:28
Speaker 1: And wouldn't you know it, Uh, the sun started to
24:32
Speaker 1: go down. I looked over my shoulder back behind me,
24:34
Speaker 1: kind of not where I was expecting the deer to
24:36
Speaker 1: come from, and I saw a doe. She's running across
24:39
Speaker 1: the field and I was like, okay, we've seen this before. Uh,
24:42
Speaker 1: you know, just lait and waiting and all of a sudden, boom,
24:44
Speaker 1: Mary pops out and just worked out perfect. He was
24:47
Speaker 1: on the one side of the fence, she was on
24:48
Speaker 1: the other, and we were on the fence gap. So
24:51
Speaker 1: he came literally right right into our laps at like
24:53
Speaker 1: ten yards and uh, I was able to make a
24:56
Speaker 1: make a perfect shot and watch him crash and he
24:58
Speaker 1: didn't go probably fifty six yards. I know you're a
25:01
Speaker 1: big fan of decoy during pre rut and peak. Rutt
25:05
Speaker 1: tell us about those setups and how you use a
25:07
Speaker 1: decoy in mid November. Absolutely, Yeah. I get's been getting
25:11
Speaker 1: a ton of questions lately about decoys specifically, And yeah,
25:15
Speaker 1: I mean, if the ruts going in any sort of capacity,
25:17
Speaker 1: I think it's a a good viable option. And UM.
25:21
Speaker 1: I actually was utilizing the decoy quite a bit in Colorado. UM,
25:26
Speaker 1: just because it's open terrain, and that's one of my
25:29
Speaker 1: favorite places to use a decoys where you know, the
25:32
Speaker 1: odds of a buck seeing is high. So I don't
25:35
Speaker 1: like to use them in tight, tight, thick, you know,
25:37
Speaker 1: high cover, tense areas. UM. I use them in open areas,
25:41
Speaker 1: typically in areas where you can blind call without deer,
25:45
Speaker 1: you know, sneaking in, getting behind you, winning you easily.
25:48
Speaker 1: In mid November, What is your ideal rut set up
25:51
Speaker 1: like when you go and hit the woods tonight in Missouri?
25:55
Speaker 1: What is that going to look like for you tonight?
25:57
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be sitting over a food source. Um that
26:02
Speaker 1: it's it's a green food plot. Um, surrounded by a good,
26:04
Speaker 1: good cover, really secluded plot. Um. There's betting not not
26:08
Speaker 1: too far. The deer aren't really utilizing the plot that much.
26:12
Speaker 1: I mean those if they go there they're getting harassed
26:14
Speaker 1: by bucks. But it's one of those areas that if
26:16
Speaker 1: a buck doesn't already have a dough, um, that he
26:19
Speaker 1: might be you know, checking and frequenting just to see
26:21
Speaker 1: if you can pick one up. Have you noticed an
26:24
Speaker 1: increase or decrease in signmaking over the last week? You know,
26:28
Speaker 1: I haven't um noticed specifically, but I can imagine, um,
26:33
Speaker 1: you know, as the rug gets you know, towards the peak,
26:35
Speaker 1: they're you know, they're not going to be just frequenting
26:38
Speaker 1: those scrapes as much. I wouldn't think, um, as they
26:41
Speaker 1: get you know, most of them get with those are
26:44
Speaker 1: kind of isolated and pull trying to pull those away
26:46
Speaker 1: from the highly concentrated areas. But um, but I haven't
26:50
Speaker 1: specifically noticed noticing things. But I just know typically the
26:52
Speaker 1: time of your scrape activities start to be on the
26:55
Speaker 1: decline as gun seasons start opening across the Midwest. What
26:59
Speaker 1: is a strategy when you're still bow hunting during a
27:02
Speaker 1: gun season, Like, what sorts of setups are you doing?
27:05
Speaker 1: How is it different that when there's not that gone pressure. Yeah, yeah,
27:09
Speaker 1: dear definitely seek uh seek, you know for shelter. Once
27:13
Speaker 1: the Orange Army gets out into the woods and so, um,
27:16
Speaker 1: you may find better success sticking tighter to bedding areas,
27:20
Speaker 1: tighter to cover areas. They're not going to be you know, comfortable,
27:25
Speaker 1: you know, running through wide open fields and chasing deer.
27:28
Speaker 1: You know, obviously it's still the rud so they'll still
27:30
Speaker 1: do they'll still be crazy things, but um, yeah, you
27:33
Speaker 1: may have to be get a little tighter to cover
27:35
Speaker 1: and getting some of those spots that maybe you know
27:38
Speaker 1: better for those all day type sits going forward. Then
27:41
Speaker 1: in the six week or so, what do you think
27:43
Speaker 1: that bucket TV is going to be on a scale
27:45
Speaker 1: of one to ten in Colorado? Man, uh, in Colorado
27:49
Speaker 1: and pretty much anywhere across the Midwest. I think this
27:52
Speaker 1: whole cold fronts come through and boom, just flip the switch.
27:56
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the weather, the warmer rather anything going
28:00
Speaker 1: to stop the rut from happening. But when the re
28:02
Speaker 1: the weather is right and it's time with the peak
28:04
Speaker 1: of the rats, it's hard to beat. So we're already
28:07
Speaker 1: seeing that through you know, cell cams and and whatnot
28:10
Speaker 1: here Missouri. Just see the activity instantly picked up the
28:13
Speaker 1: yesterday as the temperature dropping. The cold front came through,
28:16
Speaker 1: So it pushed through Colorado the day before, and uh,
28:19
Speaker 1: my buddies out there are seeing great buck activity as well.
28:22
Speaker 1: And um, actually almost got another one killed yesterday, So
28:26
Speaker 1: it's a good thing, a better time to get out there,
28:29
Speaker 1: all right, Mike, Well, congrats again on the great deer,
28:31
Speaker 1: good luck with the rest of your season, and thanks
28:33
Speaker 1: for joining me. Thank you alright and joining us online.
28:37
Speaker 1: Next is Vince Bodiana from Tennessee. Now, Vince in Tennessee,
28:41
Speaker 1: what would you say the buck activity is ben lately?
28:43
Speaker 1: On a scale of one to ten? Uh lately, I
28:46
Speaker 1: would say the activity is probably right around of six,
28:50
Speaker 1: maybe a six and a half, depending on where you are. Um,
28:54
Speaker 1: I've started to see a lot of mature buck start
28:57
Speaker 1: to pop up in daylight, Um, somewhere around the time
29:00
Speaker 1: between you know, anywhere from twelve to five. So I'd
29:03
Speaker 1: probably give about a six six and a half for
29:06
Speaker 1: the timing of Tennessee's rott. Do you think it's closer
29:09
Speaker 1: to states above you, like Ohio and Kentucky or state
29:12
Speaker 1: south of you, like Alabama and Georgia. I would say
29:16
Speaker 1: it's probably more for the states below me. I actually
29:19
Speaker 1: just had a conversation with another gentleman about that, and
29:22
Speaker 1: what what we've noticed is run in that last week
29:26
Speaker 1: in November into the first week of December is usually
29:29
Speaker 1: when I've typically seen the most running activity here in Tennessee.
29:35
Speaker 1: What are you seeing for signmaking right now? The biggest
29:38
Speaker 1: thing right now that I've started to see is a
29:41
Speaker 1: lot of scrape making, um, and then routine checking. I
29:45
Speaker 1: feel like, um, you know, I have a lot of
29:48
Speaker 1: my cameras on scrapes currently, and I just feel like
29:52
Speaker 1: they're hitting them NonStop and routinely checking them daily. Um.
29:57
Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, you know, I have getting a
29:59
Speaker 1: lot of daylight at two, Um, starting to see some
30:01
Speaker 1: you know, you see some still good rubs and stuff.
30:03
Speaker 1: But whatever reason, they're they're hitting the scrapes hard. So
30:07
Speaker 1: what phase of the rut would you say that most
30:09
Speaker 1: of the the Tennessee is in right now? I would say
30:12
Speaker 1: it's probably it's it's getting close to the rut. I
30:17
Speaker 1: would say we're still probably in the pre rut phase. Um.
30:21
Speaker 1: But like I said once, that last week in November
30:23
Speaker 1: hits it's gonna it's gonna crank up pretty hot. Do
30:27
Speaker 1: you do any calling or decoing in Tennessee. I don't
30:30
Speaker 1: do any d coining. I do do some calling, um,
30:34
Speaker 1: not so much on the rattling side um, you know,
30:37
Speaker 1: and it's nothing like the like how you would be
30:39
Speaker 1: out Midwest or Iowa or anything like that. I try
30:43
Speaker 1: to stay more towards the light side of calling a
30:45
Speaker 1: little bit um. I've just seen the word if you
30:48
Speaker 1: try to get on too aggressive, they just I don't know,
30:53
Speaker 1: it just seems like they're just they're not they don't
30:55
Speaker 1: want to partake in the game. And if you kind
30:56
Speaker 1: of just do it a little lightly, they're they're more
30:59
Speaker 1: a little more interested. As we approach peak RUTT in Tennessee,
31:04
Speaker 1: what's your ideal rutt set up? Ideal rut set up,
31:08
Speaker 1: I'm probably going to set up mostly on the fringe
31:13
Speaker 1: of doe betting areas, um. And that's really the strategy
31:18
Speaker 1: is just if I feel like if I'm on the
31:21
Speaker 1: outside of doe betting areas, there's going to be a
31:23
Speaker 1: concentration of the majority of of deer. If there's a
31:27
Speaker 1: lot of dose there, the bucks are going to be there.
31:29
Speaker 1: Now where they're going to be, you know, that's always
31:32
Speaker 1: a game during that time, But I feel like that's
31:34
Speaker 1: probably going to be the strategy that I'm gonna go with.
31:37
Speaker 1: What should hunters in Tennessee be focused on as far
31:40
Speaker 1: as food sources. Food sources, I would probably say if
31:46
Speaker 1: if you have something that that has a lot of acorns,
31:49
Speaker 1: you know, go go hit with the acorns. If you
31:51
Speaker 1: have any left standing corn, you know, anything like that. Um.
31:55
Speaker 1: And then as soon as we start approaching into you know,
31:57
Speaker 1: later in the year, into December, you know, the green
32:00
Speaker 1: stuff going forward. Then in the next week or so,
32:04
Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket activity is going to
32:05
Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Tennessee.
32:08
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and give it a seven a
32:10
Speaker 1: half to eight. And that's only because we've had that
32:14
Speaker 1: little bit of a warm spell, and I think a
32:15
Speaker 1: lot of people have. But going into this next week,
32:18
Speaker 1: it's not going to drop a lot, but it is
32:20
Speaker 1: going to be a little bit of a cooler spell.
32:23
Speaker 1: Uh I. Just for the time of year, in the phase,
32:26
Speaker 1: I think that's that's probably gonna kick it off. So alright, Vince,
32:30
Speaker 1: good luck with the rest of your season, and thanks
32:32
Speaker 1: for joining me, al buddy, thank you, Spencer. Alright, and
32:35
Speaker 1: joining us on the line next is Dan Johnson from
32:38
Speaker 1: nine fingers chronicles in Iowa. Now, Dan in Iowa, what
32:42
Speaker 1: would you say the buck activity is ben lately on
32:44
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten. Well, for me, Um,
32:49
Speaker 1: I tagged out before this cold front hit, So before
32:53
Speaker 1: this cold front UM hit, I would say that the act,
32:57
Speaker 1: the buck movement, the activities during that warm weather period
33:01
Speaker 1: was really close to like a six. I mean, there
33:04
Speaker 1: was a lot of young deer on their feet, they
33:07
Speaker 1: were moving around, they were checking scrapes, and even some
33:10
Speaker 1: big dogs coming off of their first dough. We're on
33:14
Speaker 1: the move, But most of the movement was still in
33:17
Speaker 1: that morning and evening time frame. Now, but the reports
33:22
Speaker 1: that I've gotten today so far, after this cold front
33:25
Speaker 1: has come through, that's changed that the deer are moving
33:30
Speaker 1: there on their feet. My cell cams are blowing up,
33:33
Speaker 1: and it looks like that really triggered a little bit
33:36
Speaker 1: more more movement. So I would say probably closer to
33:39
Speaker 1: that eight. That's a slammerbuck you killed in Iowa. Tell
33:43
Speaker 1: us about that set up and about that hunt. Yeah.
33:46
Speaker 1: So you know, my grandpa always used to say, even
33:51
Speaker 1: the sun shines on a dog's ass, meaning you know
33:54
Speaker 1: it's okay. Everybody gets lucky once in a while, and
33:58
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I got lucky. I parked
34:00
Speaker 1: my truck next to a pond, and next to this
34:04
Speaker 1: pond was a big block of really thick timber. And
34:07
Speaker 1: I was on the ground walking to where I was
34:09
Speaker 1: going to hang my tree stand that night, and I
34:13
Speaker 1: noticed some antlers coming up and uh, I shot him
34:17
Speaker 1: from the ground at twenty five yards walking to where
34:22
Speaker 1: I was gonna go. But where I was going to
34:25
Speaker 1: go was this little transition area that's really thick and
34:30
Speaker 1: typically holds a lot of doughs before they you know,
34:33
Speaker 1: they kind of bed there, but they also staged there
34:36
Speaker 1: before they head out to the big egg fields, So
34:39
Speaker 1: it was it was just kind of downwind of a
34:43
Speaker 1: good staging or betting area. You said, your cell cams
34:46
Speaker 1: have been blowing up today. If you were to hit
34:48
Speaker 1: the woods today November eleven, what would your ideal set
34:52
Speaker 1: up be. I'm going to where the does are, man.
34:55
Speaker 1: I'm going as tight to bedding with the best possible
34:58
Speaker 1: access as I can. Like I said, Man, this cold
35:02
Speaker 1: front just came through Iowa and it's one of those
35:04
Speaker 1: blue bird days out and it's cold. Now the deer
35:07
Speaker 1: are going to be moving uh, and so you find
35:10
Speaker 1: the dough groups and that's where you find the bucks
35:13
Speaker 1: and maybe even even some of us really unorthodox spots
35:17
Speaker 1: where maybe a big buck maybe I was pushed the
35:21
Speaker 1: dough that they're trying to breed and uh or looking
35:24
Speaker 1: for some of these spots where some of these bucks
35:27
Speaker 1: have just came off one of their first possibly second
35:31
Speaker 1: dough and they're looking for that next one to breed.
35:35
Speaker 1: So I'm getting as close to betting as possible. What
35:38
Speaker 1: have you seen for signmaking in the last week or so? Yeah, man,
35:42
Speaker 1: that's a real good question, because the sign activity from
35:46
Speaker 1: this this early, this first couple of days of October
35:51
Speaker 1: and the last couple of days or the first first
35:54
Speaker 1: couple of days in November, last couple of days of
35:57
Speaker 1: October when the scraping really starts to increase. My my
36:03
Speaker 1: scrapes have really kind of dried up, not necessarily all
36:08
Speaker 1: the way, but they're still you know, once a deer
36:12
Speaker 1: is passing by, he's not going out of his way
36:14
Speaker 1: to lay sign anymore unless he's right there. So I'm
36:18
Speaker 1: finding the active sign near the betting areas. We're coming
36:23
Speaker 1: into a phase of the rut that a lot of
36:24
Speaker 1: the hunters identify as lockdown. Do you put any stock
36:28
Speaker 1: into the lockdown phases? That's something that you care about
36:31
Speaker 1: when you're getting into the woods in mid November. Yeah, dude,
36:35
Speaker 1: it's the rut. I mean this, this lockdown phase is
36:39
Speaker 1: almost trickery to a hunter's brain. You know, it's like, well,
36:42
Speaker 1: it's lockdown, so I better stay out. It's ridiculous, just
36:45
Speaker 1: like the October lowell the deer or they're they're doing
36:49
Speaker 1: something and you need to get into your best stance.
36:52
Speaker 1: You need to have your access still needs to be great.
36:56
Speaker 1: You need to follow the wind direction, and you need
36:58
Speaker 1: to get into the pinch points, into those travel corridors,
37:02
Speaker 1: into those staging areas, into those betting areas, and hunt right.
37:06
Speaker 1: Lockdown is only good if you're hunting one specific buck,
37:11
Speaker 1: because there's a whole bunch of other bucks out there
37:14
Speaker 1: that are aren't breeding and they are looking for deer.
37:18
Speaker 1: So don't worry about any type of lockdown faith As
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Speaker 1: we approach peak rut. Do you care about food sources
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Speaker 1: at all on the state like Iowa? I mean, there's
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Speaker 1: food all over, so it's never really a concern. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's never really a big point of interest unless I'm
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Speaker 1: doing some October one tip hunting. So the only time
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Speaker 1: I really focus on food is early season, in late
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Speaker 1: season right now, again, just like broken record man, get
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Speaker 1: into the betting areas, get into the travel corridors, those
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Speaker 1: terrain features that hold deer, because do you're going to
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Speaker 1: come through them at some point in the day, find
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Speaker 1: the does, find what they're doing. Set up almost like
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Speaker 1: you're hunting does, and you're gonna you're gonna find the
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Speaker 1: box man going forward. Then in this next week or so,
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Speaker 1: what do you think that BUCKETTT is going to be
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Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten in Iowa? So
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Speaker 1: based off historical data from trail cameras and from my experience,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna slow down. But because you know a majority
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Speaker 1: of the does by the end of next week are
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Speaker 1: going to start, you know, they're gonna be bread. But
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Speaker 1: the big dogs, the mature bucks, the you know in Iowa,
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Speaker 1: the four or five, six, seven year olds, they're gonna
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Speaker 1: be on their feet. And there's this time frame when
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Speaker 1: there's still maybe a handful of doughs that are are
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Speaker 1: coming into heat where the biggest mature bucks are gonna
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Speaker 1: be zombies and they're gonna be walking all over the
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Speaker 1: place looking for that last dough before they stop running
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Speaker 1: all together. The activity level between one and ten is
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Speaker 1: probably gonna go down to a five, but you're gonna
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Speaker 1: have your best chance of connecting on a big mature cruiser.
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Speaker 1: All right, Dan, great intel, Congrats again on the buck,
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Speaker 1: and thanks for joining me, absolutely man, And that concludes
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Speaker 1: this week's episode of rout Fresh Radio. Thanks to Keith,
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Speaker 1: Michael Vince and Dan for joining me, and thank you
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Speaker 1: guys for listening. As you heard Dan say in our
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Speaker 1: last call there, don't put too much stock into the
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Speaker 1: lockdown phase. Um, mid November is still an amazing time
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Speaker 1: to be in the woods, so I hope you get
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