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Monday Night CrossFit Talk | Wrapping Up the 2024 Masters CrossFit Games · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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What's going on, everybody?
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Welcome to the Monday night
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version of Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
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It's going to be a little
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bit abbreviated tonight,
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but we're going to wrap up
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the CrossFit Games Masters
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competition that happened this weekend.
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Hit a couple news notes just
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to get you our normal
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weekly show for the week.
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But it's Monday night.
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We're back from the road.
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Some of us are pretty tired.
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I know I am.
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But we want to wrap up
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everything for everybody
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and kind of talk about the weekend.
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But before we jump into that,
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it's kind of a riff,
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but it's not in a negative direction.
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So I want a couple minutes
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to talk about how when we
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go to these competitions,
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and especially on the big stage, we...
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We get wrapped up in the
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minutia of the competition.
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I do it.
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Carolyn does it.
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Jamie does it.
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And we say, oh my gosh,
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the judges missed this.
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And oh my gosh,
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the programming could be that.
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But I want to point out that
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we had four hundred and
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fifty athletes in Birmingham, Alabama,
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all thirty five and older,
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showing the world what
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CrossFit can do for people.
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We had people seventy plus.
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doing muscle ups.
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We had,
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we had sixty five plus women
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ripping off muscle ups like
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it was so cool to see these
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beast athletes take this
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methodology and show what
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could be done with it.
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And so many people there
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give it getting their first opportunity,
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just like Jamie,
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to go to the CrossFit Games
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and to soak in this this opportunity.
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We all suffered a tragedy four weeks ago,
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and this showed us what
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CrossFit is really about.
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And what that means is that
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it's something special.
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It's something that we should hold on to.
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It is a step forward.
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It felt a little bit normal
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this weekend because people
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were doing amazing things
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and showing what all is possible.
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And I just wanted to take a
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moment to applaud
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everybody for doing this.
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Yes, things went wrong.
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Yes, things could have been better.
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This was the first year
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people had this opportunity
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to put this on and it
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wasn't going to fly
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seamlessly out the gate.
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But I'll tell you what,
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running three floors pretty
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much on schedule with one
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minor ten minute delay
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throughout the entire
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weekend is pretty freaking phenomenal.
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We can nitpick other things,
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but four hundred fifty
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athletes got to show what they can do.
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And we've got to celebrate that.
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And we've got to move forward.
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And and because we cannot lose this.
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CrossFit is too important to all of us.
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as a sport as a methodology
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to lose it and so I just
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wanted to point out it was
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freaking awesome and I
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don't know how many dms I
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got from people saying it
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was so cool that I actually
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got to sit down and watch
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the masters I've never
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really been able to do that
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because it's either been
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midweek or while the elites
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are going on and I haven't
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been able to do that but
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this weekend I got to sit
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down and enjoy it all
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and uh I think that's really
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freaking cool yeah how
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about this comment from
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lynn so lynn says uh yep
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scott it finally convinced
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my dad to join crossfit at
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he was cheering for joe
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ames the whole time so cool
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so cool right that's what it's about
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What I loved is the fight
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from the fifty five plus
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athletes saying that they
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thought they scaled it back too much.
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They wanted the opportunity
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to show what they could do.
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And I thought that was.
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But they all said like, hey,
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we voiced our concerns and
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we're cool this year.
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It's the first year they're doing it.
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We'll learn from it.
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Maybe next year we move a
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little bit closer to what
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we think we can accomplish
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because they want to do
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handstand pushups.
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They want to do handstand walks.
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They want to at least have
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them at the end of a
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workout to show them as a
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separator and a differentiator.
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That's fair.
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I think the end of the
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workout is where you put
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those higher skills for sure for them.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They did that with the bar
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muscle ups yesterday in the
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sixty five plus where it
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was all chest to bar until the last four.
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And then they had to do four
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bar muscle ups and everybody,
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the people that had it got
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to show it off.
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And the the crowd was so
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loud when the sixty five
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plusers were hitting bar muscle ups.
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It was so cool.
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So that's my little piece
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that I just wanted to get out.
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Just great.
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What happened this weekend
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and help us move forward
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because I think it was a
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pretty cool show.
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Yeah.
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Larry Young says people always complain.
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I thought it was great.
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um hell of a performance by
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jamie this weekend wish
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that there would have been
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a true long chipper for her
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to smash instead of one of
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the strength tests true but
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she she faced the tests
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that were given to her and
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she fought like hell
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through all of them and
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she's the fourth fittest
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forty year old in the world
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which is pretty awesome uh
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cory leonard I'm yelling at
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my tv when the
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Crystal,
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this was my husband's fourth year
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at the games,
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and this was by far our best
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overall experience.
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It was awesome.
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That's great to hear.
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I'm not going to lie.
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I had mixed reviews in the
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back as I was hanging out
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with the athletes.
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Yeah.
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Some good, some bad.
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I would say the majority was good.
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The majority was good.
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And even those that say bad
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said there were some good
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elements from this that they took away.
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And I think Dex put it
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really well in his story.
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The pageantry was not there from the games,
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right?
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But the way it was run,
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as efficiently as it was run,
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was pretty good.
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The three floors gave people
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the opportunity to go back
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and forth and watch
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different workouts
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throughout the day and not
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be stuck watching the same
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thing over and over again.
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They all said the crowds...
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Those are the biggest crowds
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they've seen at an event
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because in Madison,
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many people didn't come in to watch them.
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And here they had crowds
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around every floor throughout the day.
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Yeah,
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I think it's only going to get bigger.
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Like this was the first year that...
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They separated,
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and I think there's some
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learning stuff that I'm
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sure will come with this,
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but I expect it only to grow from here.
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And I think a lot of people
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in our community got the
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chance to watch the true
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representation of the
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Masters this weekend,
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where in normal years,
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a lot of them would have
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taken a break during the
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Masters events and then
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gone shopping and stuff like that.
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Um,
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so while the experience for the
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athletes may have been
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different in the sense that
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they're not competing on
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the same floor as, you know,
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this and that person, I think, um,
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the growth of this can
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actually be better in the long run.
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Yeah,
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I think if you had an opening ceremony,
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some things like that to
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add some of the pageantry back to this.
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But again, it's year one.
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It's three,
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four weeks after the tragic
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event of the CrossFit Games.
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They had to make tough
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decisions coming into this.
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But I think that the proof
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of concept is now there.
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And maybe you get more sponsors.
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Maybe you don't run the
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teens and the masters on
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the same weekend in different places.
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either run them in the same
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place or find two different
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dates to run them.
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Um, I think that's,
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that was a lesson learned for sure.
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Um, Linda Jerry, uh,
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and Jamie on that bike,
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you better give tips, girl hurt.
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Yeah.
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Craig asked, did you talk to Dave?
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I did not see Dave.
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Dave came in late on Friday.
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I had left to come back and
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do the wrap up show where
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Ellie was doing the
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interviews that evening.
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I did talk to Don Fall, which was great.
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Great interaction there.
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I talked to Becky Harsh a
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lot over the weekend.
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She's an amazing person and
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great perspective.
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But it was cool to see
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CrossFit HQ there
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supporting the Masters athletes.
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Yeah.
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I saw Dave twice, and I saw Baz twice.
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Yeah.
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Yeah,
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I had a long talk with Boz because we
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talked at the games and it
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was nice to catch up and
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see where he's at.
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So that was cool, too.
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Larry Young,
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thank you so much for the super chat.
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Four ninety nine.
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Jamie's power clean
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impressed the shit out of me.
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Same here.
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You crushed that.
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Ninety percent.
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That's crazy.
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Yeah.
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Cause like I was thinking
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that you were going to
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maybe hesitate before picking it up,
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but you were,
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you were aggressive in that
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workout and you went for it.
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It was, it was good.
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Thank you.
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So Aaron Frazier says,
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too many athletes to do
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both at the same venue.
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This is what I'll say, Aaron.
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They ran a team competition
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at the exact same time that
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had way more athletes than
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would be the teen competitors.
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You move that team competition out,
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the teens in,
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you probably have less athletes,
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can use the same number of floors,
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and you need less warm-up
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space because the teams are
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taking up a lot of the warm-up space.
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because it was two and three person teams.
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Yeah.
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I feel like they bring a lot
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of people to the party too.
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It did.
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And I feel like there was a
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lot of like positive
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comments and feedback about
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that team aspect.
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I personally just don't feel like
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If this is supposed to be our games,
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that's the place for it.
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Like,
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I think that should be at the legends
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in December.
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And that's where you highlight the teams.
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And that's more of like the sh you know,
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that's like the growing event, right?
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Like you go there to get
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experience like that.
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I don't know that you should,
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and I don't want to say water down the,
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our games with this, but like,
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it kind of felt like you were just trying,
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it was almost like a money grab or like,
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let's just throw more
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people into this to like, make it bigger.
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My optimistic guy says it
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was a way at a safety net.
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They weren't confident in
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what the turnout would be.
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So let's have this team
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competition to make sure we
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have X number more people
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in the building.
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But I think it showed that,
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that there would be a good crowd.
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the more people that watch
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it and the more people that
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get engaged to it like you
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saw amazing like will morad
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ain't far off the elites I
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mean he's he just made it
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last year that's seven
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forty one in the standard
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was an epic performance
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yeah um cory leonard says
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it felt like a test run to
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see if masters team comp is feasible
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I don't think it was really
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run like a games team event.
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I think it really was just a
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safety net to get more,
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more bodies in the building.
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The one drawback I will say
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to that is they did take up
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a lot of the warm-up area.
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And when they were back there,
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it was chaotic.
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And the people fighting for
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the CrossFit Games should
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have had preferential
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treatment to the warm-up equipment.
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And that was not happening
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in what I observed.
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Um,
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and so that if you're bringing back a
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teams for this,
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they need to have a
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separate warmup area or a
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section to their own so
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that the elite athletes can,
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can get their warmups in.
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Yeah.
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Um, so yeah.
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I mean,
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I saw your show yesterday and
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talking about the diluted, um,
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volunteers, everything, and,
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and clearly equipment was a
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factor and was spread out amongst events.
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And that was noticeable even
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in the warmup area.
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Um,
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Not having,
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and I know rowers weren't in
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the competition and maybe
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it was an equipment thing.
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And the only cardio machine
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there was the bike.
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And when it was on the floor,
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there was only two in the
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background to be used.
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Like it was like,
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that's not good for
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hundreds of people trying
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to warm up in the back.
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Or cool down.
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Yes.
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And it wouldn't be my first
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piece of equipment that I
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want to go on to.
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I know.
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Yeah.
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They never have the bike erg too.
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Like it's always the echo bike.
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And I'm like, just give me a bike erg.
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I just want to pedal nice and light.
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So Saturday night show,
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we went all through those events.
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We finished up with the final event,
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which was a heavy dumbbell thruster,
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single arm, and bar muscle ups.
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Yep.
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Okay.
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I don't, I can't remember the rep scheme.
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It's all a blur in my head.
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Eight, twelve, sixteen.
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Yep.
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Eight, twelve, sixteen.
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And Bob and Joe have said
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that they like ascending
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rep schemes as opposed to descending.
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What are your feelings about that?
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It's fine.
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They do seem to like that.
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It does get programmed a lot like that.
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And it
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It can make it more of a
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test to see like who can
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hold on instead of like racing at the end,
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which I kind of like.
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I think it creates more
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separation oftentimes when
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there's an ascending rep scheme.
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If you have that bigger set at the start,
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some of the people that can
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hang will do at the start.
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And as they get fatigued,
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those smaller sets just help them.
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Being able to stay unbroken
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on that last set or minimal
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rest is where the game is played.
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And I think it's important
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to put ascending rep
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schemes in your training or at a comp.
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I think it's good.
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love that event I thought it
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was um fun to watch there
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was people that had major
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like they just hit major
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walls in that event and um
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you saw people go down the
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singles on the bar muscle
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ups failing bar muscle ups
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um it was yeah I mean as a
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last event that's what you
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want so jamie I talked to
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you right before this event
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you were less than confident
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And was that more coming off
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the front squat,
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which is not your strength
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and having to sleep on that overnight?
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Or were you truly like,
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because you crushed the event, right?
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There's not like,
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so you were talking on the
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show and you were like,
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I think you even said like,
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I mean, Carolyn corrected you,
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but you were like, well,
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Carolyn Klutz kind of has a chance.
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There's a chance, right?
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If she didn't... That's untrue.
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I don't know if you looked at the points,
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but last place got forty-three points.
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Oh.
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So they didn't adjust the
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scoring fully to... Right.
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So... I just... Basically,
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I kind of knew I had no shot.
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It didn't...
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I guess I kind of did,
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but I really had no shot, right?
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So did they keep the exact
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same point and then just
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took out the last ten or
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twenty athletes for your division?
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They took out some,
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but then you still had that.
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The worst you got is
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whatever was a twentieth place,
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let's say.
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Yeah, yeah.
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extremely frustrating because like,
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I feel like the cut should
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have been before the front squat.
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Like you should have earned,
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you should have had enough
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fitness to earn to show your strength.
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And then I would have gotten
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forty three points in the front squat.
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And we'd have be having a
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completely different conversation today.
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Yeah.
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Yeah,
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because you have specialists that are
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in the field that go in and
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The semifinals already
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pushed it that way that it
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was stronger athletes that made it here.
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I mean, you can see that just by,
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I was like third, third,
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and then going into out of semis, right?
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Like the semis already
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tested strength enough.
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And that's why I was knocked
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down in my placing,
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even qualifying for the games.
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Um, I,
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I just don't know why they like kept
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pushing that aspect.
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here's my here's my big
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overarching question it's
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not about this workout but
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like online qualifiers I've
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I've hated them forever
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right and I don't know what
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the solution is but like
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but you come in in twenty
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whatever place from semis
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haley mario is a backfill
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in allison stall is a
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backfill in you all end up
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as top ten athletes at the
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games because you're fitter
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than everyone else
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What are we missing in the
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online versions of the
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qualification that are
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missing these people?
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Because we almost missed
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Haley and Allison even getting in.
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I would say video review for one.
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Yeah.
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And I just think.
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Haley, I mean, Haley's good.
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Really?
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Allison's pretty power output.
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I denser gymnastics sets,
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I think still are getting to her,
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especially coming back postpartum.
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Um,
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and I think we saw that in the final
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event with her.
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Um, but Haley's great at gymnastics,
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right?
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Like she crushed the standard.
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Um, and I, and I've said this for years,
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Aaron and I talk about it a
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like the bigger gymnastics
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chippers and fitness in a way that like,
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I mean,
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there was a ton of CrossFit this weekend,
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which was great.
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But I do think like the sport is going,
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has gone away from that a
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little bit and they keep
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trying to push the weights.
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You saw it with,
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you saw it with the women
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getting time capped a lot.
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Like,
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Clearly,
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people aren't fit enough because
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you haven't pushed that.
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They can move weight.
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We saw it in the front squat.
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They can move a shit ton of weight.
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They can barely power clean up one eighty,
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which is my ninety percent
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when they're fatigued
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because you don't make them
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keep showing that you let
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them be able to rest and
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hide in these sets of
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numbers and you don't push
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the metabolic fitness.
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You said time caps.
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I was waiting for Carolyn to
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blow up again.
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I felt like I've been
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negative too much on my, um,
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programming and the program wasn't,
20:49
wasn't bad.
20:50
I liked, I mean,
20:51
I like nine out of the ten
20:52
events or personally, like for my,
20:55
my skills.
20:56
Um,
20:58
but just not the echo bike double under
21:00
one.
21:00
There, there,
21:03
there's some tweak ups I
21:03
would have made in terms of
21:04
the time caps just to allow
21:06
more of the female athletes to finish.
21:08
Um,
21:09
But I think you're like your
21:10
games was a different
21:11
experience than let's say
21:12
the individual programming
21:13
where I felt strength
21:15
wasn't really tested this year as much.
21:18
But for yours, yeah,
21:20
you could say that you
21:21
could have done definitely
21:22
more metabolic in the games
21:26
for or longer.
21:28
That longer time domain was was missing.
21:32
Yeah.
21:32
And I get,
21:33
I get that's going to be hard in
21:34
a comp this large with this
21:36
many athletes with three floors.
21:38
Like I do get that.
21:39
Like,
21:39
it's going to be really hard to make
21:41
a twenty to thirty minute even.
21:43
I mean,
21:43
especially like a forty minute
21:44
workout without doing heats
21:47
of like one hundred and twenty at a time.
21:50
Right.
21:51
And I mean,
21:52
it'd have to be a big outdoor thing.
21:53
And that
21:54
you're not going to do that
21:55
right now in Birmingham
21:57
with things that just happened.
21:58
People are going to complain about safety.
22:01
So, I mean, yeah, things, they were,
22:04
their hands were tied a little bit,
22:05
I would say.
22:09
so the last workout I
22:10
thought was one of the best
22:10
workouts of the weekend um
22:12
I think it showed a lot um
22:14
I didn't get to see a lot
22:15
of it live because I was
22:17
stuck in the back because I
22:18
was the only person doing
22:20
bts um sunday so I was back
22:23
there a lot um
22:26
I did get I did hear a lot
22:28
from the women talking
22:30
about the time caps carolyn
22:31
about how like and that
22:35
they they were told that
22:37
the only people that tested
22:38
were men the events and
22:41
that they felt like it
22:43
showed in the time caps and
22:45
that a lot of the women
22:46
could not finish a lot of the events
22:50
And,
22:51
and that makes for a boring race when
22:53
everybody just finishes on the floor,
22:55
you know, and at the end of the day,
22:57
if you want to be a sport,
22:58
you better be spectator friendly.
23:00
Like you just, as an athlete, like you,
23:02
you hope to finish every event, like,
23:04
you know, on, on the finish mat.
23:06
Like, it's just frustrating when, you know,
23:08
out of ten events, let's say half of them,
23:12
most of the field,
23:13
three quarters of the field
23:14
sometimes didn't finish.
23:16
Um,
23:19
I just feel like that would
23:20
be frustrating.
23:24
I still feel like they
23:25
missed the mark on the finish lines.
23:28
Even that last event,
23:29
why didn't we not run to the middle?
23:35
Maybe they were scared of
23:36
people running into each
23:37
other from both sides.
23:39
But most people just stop at
23:41
their finish line.
23:43
Yeah.
23:44
I didn't know if people were
23:46
still standing under the
23:47
rig because people were
23:48
just walking around during
23:49
bar muscle-ups.
23:50
I didn't know who was done.
23:52
Yeah, because you could be backed up.
23:55
You could be hunched over, tired.
23:57
You're failing or you're resting,
23:59
and you don't know where
24:01
you are in the race,
24:02
plus you don't know what's
24:03
behind you on the other side of the rig.
24:05
Lynn says,
24:06
I can volunteer to be a demo athlete,
24:08
and those time caps will be very generous,
24:10
I promise.
24:12
I even brought up carolyn
24:14
like carolyn you've been a
24:15
demo athlete you weren't
24:17
you were available to run
24:19
through some workouts if
24:20
they wanted a demo athlete
24:22
there were lots of athletes
24:23
available that could have
24:24
done that and would have
24:27
loved the opportunity to to
24:29
make relationships and
24:31
those need to be those time
24:33
caps would need to be set
24:35
prior though not like um
24:37
not there like because I'm
24:39
assuming their schedule is
24:40
built out you know months
24:42
in advance and then they
24:43
would need someone to test
24:45
the workouts months in
24:45
advance that they have um
24:49
but how many people trust
24:50
in that won't leak
24:51
available right like you
24:54
are you don't you're not a
24:55
part of a training camp you
24:57
you've been a trusted
24:58
person from rogue it's from
25:00
castro all these people why
25:03
couldn't they have called
25:03
on you to do that
25:06
Maybe they'll think about
25:07
people in the future.
25:09
It just is hard with all of
25:10
the people associated with
25:14
training camps and stuff
25:15
like that to pick the
25:16
people to test the workouts
25:18
that aren't going to give
25:21
information to people.
25:24
Larry Young said, I agree,
25:25
but also very glad we got
25:26
to see an actual strength
25:28
test out of ten.
25:29
Bob said they had a long one,
25:31
but the facility didn't
25:31
want that many athletes to
25:33
do it because they worried
25:34
about the field.
25:41
So overall thoughts on the weekend.
25:43
Jamie, did you have a good experience?
25:47
Yeah.
25:49
We're proud of you.
25:54
Thanks.
25:54
It was fun seeing you out there.
25:56
And I love that you give,
25:58
you lay it all out there
26:00
and you can tell every single event,
26:03
regardless of what it is.
26:05
I always knew where you are
26:06
because you had the tape shoulder.
26:08
I was looking for you at the start line.
26:10
I'm like, Okay, where's Jamie now?
26:11
Oh, there she is.
26:13
She is.
26:15
I don't match my uniform.
26:16
Well,
26:16
everyone else is wearing like the
26:17
same outfit.
26:18
So yeah,
26:19
you got to separate yourself there.
26:21
Jamie brought back the
26:22
Reebok colors one strip of
26:23
KT tape at a time.
26:28
The bionic woman.
26:32
Carolyn,
26:32
what was overall thoughts on the weekend?
26:34
Did you enjoy watching?
26:36
Yeah, I mean,
26:37
like I've never been as
26:38
invested in the Masters
26:39
division as I was this year.
26:43
This is by far the most I watch.
26:45
I got to like really watch
26:46
and then was following the leaderboard,
26:48
seeing the switches.
26:49
And then I also felt like I was...
26:53
invested in the workouts too.
26:54
Like I was curious on the times.
26:56
I mean, I'm a master next year, right?
26:58
So I'm also scouting my
26:59
competition right now, I guess.
27:02
But no, I was just, it was just fun.
27:04
Like I liked the workouts like personally.
27:06
So I was just curious on where I,
27:08
where I thought people were
27:09
going to finish prior and
27:10
then seeing it actually play out after.
27:13
like as an analyst and then
27:15
just following people that
27:17
I knew from the Toronto area,
27:18
following Jamie.
27:20
It was, it was fun.
27:23
Could there be things to improve on?
27:24
Absolutely.
27:26
But I, I enjoyed it.
27:30
How I was for that.
27:32
I didn't get to watch the
27:33
live stream at all.
27:34
It wasn't good.
27:35
It was like coverage.
27:37
Good.
27:37
Was it hard to see?
27:40
There's a few things that would change.
27:42
First of all, on the time,
27:44
you never knew which division it was at.
27:46
So like it would be really
27:47
nice if they would put at
27:48
the bottom somewhere.
27:49
Right now it's the fifty to fifty four,
27:52
you know, because at a quick glance,
27:53
all you saw was sometimes
27:56
you would see the clock.
27:57
If it would be a split screen,
28:00
I think the clock would
28:01
disappear at times.
28:03
So you didn't know the time, the division.
28:06
So I didn't know if it was
28:08
Heat One or Heat Two,
28:09
unless I knew the athletes specifically.
28:11
Then I was like, oh, okay,
28:12
it's Jamie's in here,
28:13
so it's the Heat Two.
28:16
So a few things like that.
28:18
There was no names on the floor.
28:20
So it made it harder for the
28:22
announcers to really quickly –
28:26
determine who's you know in
28:28
the lead and and who's in
28:29
what lane they would make
28:30
small little mistakes but
28:31
it's to it's not really
28:33
their fault like that's
28:34
just they are having to
28:35
know the faces of all these
28:36
people by lanes quickly
28:38
because there's no quick
28:40
name tags or name name tags
28:41
and stuff um and the score
28:43
right you don't know who's
28:44
in the lead um at all like
28:48
they would have in a regular um
28:52
uh scoring when you watch
28:54
like the individuals like
28:55
you see like the leaders
28:57
and stuff like that so
28:57
there's nothing like that
28:58
so it's really just a clock
29:01
and you're like if you know
29:02
the athletes you can
29:04
quickly like watch and and
29:07
determine where they are in
29:07
the race but other than
29:09
that um definitely some
29:11
room for for improvement
29:13
there especially with just
29:14
like the visual and then
29:14
the finishes like we
29:15
already talked about yeah is not um
29:18
wasn't ideal because one
29:20
floor one people are
29:21
finishing and then other
29:23
like you're missing other
29:24
people from the finish
29:25
because they're on a
29:26
different camera yeah that
29:28
two floor the two sides the
29:30
floor thing is I'm not I'm
29:33
not quite sure how I feel
29:34
about it so this is what it would be like
29:39
The athlete in the middle
29:40
with the black shorts and
29:41
the white top is in the lead.
29:43
The all yellow, right?
29:45
It was just like, as the announcers,
29:47
it's not their fault.
29:48
It's just a quick way to say
29:51
it because they're just not
29:53
getting much help.
29:56
Yeah, I talked to Tommy Marquez.
29:58
He said they weren't getting
30:00
the spotters like they normally get,
30:02
talking to them in their
30:03
ear of who's where to help them out.
30:07
When I did watch the stream,
30:10
there was one stationary
30:11
camera angled at the one
30:12
side of the floor,
30:14
one stationary camera
30:15
angled at the other side of the floor,
30:17
and then they had a person
30:18
walking around with a camera.
30:19
Okay.
30:20
For the most part,
30:21
that's the shots you got.
30:23
It shows that a good
30:26
stationary camera on half the floor,
30:28
you can watch and kind of
30:30
watch the story.
30:32
We've talked about that, that, you know,
30:34
in the elite division,
30:35
there's too much right up
30:38
on a person's face during a competition.
30:41
And you don't know what's
30:42
going on in the other lanes,
30:44
at least with this on that
30:45
half of the floor,
30:46
you knew kind of who was
30:48
winning and who wasn't.
30:50
Um,
30:52
So I did kind of like that.
30:54
I did like that they did
30:55
have someone walking around
30:56
periodically that you could
30:57
get the close-up of somebody.
30:59
But I agree with Carolyn.
31:01
I was trying to find your
31:03
event on what I missed,
31:05
and they did not put at the
31:06
top age group or heat number.
31:10
Just that simple thing at
31:11
the top of the screen would
31:14
have been awesome.
31:16
Even just for a viewership-wise,
31:19
having what the workout is at the top.
31:21
I know what the workout is.
31:23
We, as fans of the sports,
31:24
know what the workouts are.
31:25
But if they just have
31:28
something that just briefly
31:30
explains before the workout
31:31
begins what the workout is
31:32
and then just stays in the
31:33
little corner or comes
31:35
across the screen
31:36
explaining what the workout is,
31:37
I think would facilitate
31:38
for non-CrossFit fans.
31:40
Yeah.
31:41
um what's going on and then
31:44
also just having a better
31:47
visual of the race so like
31:49
doing thirty snatches on
31:50
the spot you don't know
31:52
where people were right
31:53
until the judge's hand is
31:55
up for the last five reps
31:57
so something like that just
31:58
would help say the story a
32:00
little bit better
32:01
Yeah, Larry Young.
32:02
We could see the tall socks and the hats.
32:04
So the people that wore hats
32:06
or tall socks and you knew
32:08
that was your person,
32:09
really easy to pick out.
32:10
Or six rolls of KT tape.
32:19
And then they did have one
32:20
floor that did not get a live stream.
32:23
So you missed the snatch ladder,
32:25
you missed the run deadlift,
32:27
and you missed the front squat.
32:30
No, they showed the front squat.
32:31
Oh, they did?
32:32
They did end up showing the front squat.
32:33
Yeah, you can see it.
32:35
Oh, great.
32:40
Last question before we kind
32:41
of move on and talk about
32:43
who won on the podium.
32:44
Any like epic moments from
32:46
the weekend that you
32:47
remember and want to share?
32:54
starting to say uh I was
32:56
watching paul trombley with
32:58
carolyn as we were getting
32:59
ready for the show just
33:01
missed the four fifty five
33:02
front squat to take the
33:04
lead uh and he had it
33:06
almost at the top and then
33:07
dropped it that was pretty
33:08
epic and then I I'll say it
33:12
again the sixty five plus
33:14
women banging out bar
33:15
muscle ups was and the
33:17
crowd going nuts was epic
33:19
for me that's cool
33:32
I don't know she crushed the
33:33
dude andrea nistler like
33:38
just dominating yeah jason
33:49
grubb was in the fight of his life
33:53
That's good.
33:53
And pulled it out in the end,
33:54
which I do think is good.
33:56
It's not good to win by two
33:57
hundred points.
33:58
Yeah.
34:00
I liked watching the echo
34:01
bike workout like I know
34:03
you can see where anyone
34:04
was and you couldn't see
34:05
where anyone was even that
34:06
much between the rounds,
34:07
but just the visual of
34:09
people suffering and just
34:11
trying to finish that
34:12
workout brought peace to my day.
34:16
I just enjoyed watching
34:18
people just suffer.
34:22
Glenn said grub on the bike
34:23
was freaking crazy.
34:24
I think he died for a bit.
34:27
I died for a bit.
34:28
I had people messaging me
34:30
after that event that had
34:33
watched me walk through the stadium.
34:35
We're like, are you okay?
34:37
How much were you hurting after?
34:42
Probably ten minutes.
34:47
That's not bad.
34:49
I would expect more.
34:51
That workout just looked gross.
34:53
Like I said,
34:54
the amount of people that were
34:55
just selling their souls
34:57
was entertaining.
35:00
Just because I know how hard
35:01
it is to do it.
35:04
To actually watch people
35:06
stop pedaling in the middle of it
35:08
because they were hurting so bad.
35:11
There was one athlete, Dina.
35:13
What's her last name?
35:15
No, no, no.
35:16
That's Deanna.
35:17
Dina.
35:19
Is it Swift?
35:19
Yes.
35:21
She was doing like an interval style,
35:22
like a sprint and then would let the not,
35:26
it's not damper,
35:27
but like the wind just stop
35:28
and then go back.
35:29
It was almost like she was
35:30
doing a Tabata and had,
35:33
I think it was at sixty or
35:35
I don't know how many cows
35:36
in her division, but
35:38
She was two cows short, two or three,
35:41
after the second round and
35:42
just never made it back.
35:44
And it was like,
35:45
you just took one less interval.
35:47
One less interval, girl.
35:48
You had it.
35:50
Because she was like one or
35:51
two cows left and then just
35:52
didn't make it back.
35:54
How about the person that
35:55
finished the cows in two
35:57
intervals but didn't make
35:59
it back to the start mat?
36:01
So had to do the double
36:02
unders and the chest-to-bar
36:04
just to go to the finish mat.
36:07
And did, but did they make it through?
36:08
I thought I heard that and
36:09
that they couldn't get
36:10
through the chest of.
36:12
They may not have.
36:15
That's just crazy.
36:23
Um,
36:23
Haynes stopped for like five seconds
36:25
before the timer.
36:26
I was screaming.
36:26
He finished at ninety-one calories.
36:28
He was done, done that, that,
36:33
that workout messed people up.
36:34
Oh yeah.
36:37
bad.
36:40
Yeah,
36:41
like there were some fun workouts
36:42
really to watch.
36:44
The standard was really fun to watch.
36:46
I didn't think it would be
36:47
and it was really fun.
36:53
So yeah.
36:55
So we'll go through the
36:55
podium finishers really quick.
36:57
I'm going to start with the men this time.
37:01
And I'll share my screen.
37:04
Because we want to give
37:04
everybody their flowers.
37:07
So let me blow this up.
37:12
There we go.
37:12
In the men, thirty five to thirty nine.
37:14
Will Morad takes the win.
37:15
Henry Matthews second and
37:17
Bronislaw Alinkowitz took third.
37:20
Bronislaw Alinkowitz is the
37:21
largest man I've ever seen in my life.
37:24
His head is bigger than my chest.
37:26
I text.
37:28
His head is massive.
37:30
I text Justin Kotler and I'm like,
37:32
his head is so big.
37:33
He goes, I know he's the nicest guy ever.
37:36
And he really is.
37:40
Can you show the top five?
37:45
Okay.
37:46
Let's see.
37:46
We have a Stefan cassette
37:47
and Mitch Wagner.
37:49
So close.
37:51
I mean, yeah,
37:53
that eight points and three points like,
37:55
oh man.
37:58
Yeah.
37:58
Braun was not on the podium
37:59
going into the last event.
38:00
Right.
38:01
I actually feel like this
38:02
last event shook up a lot
38:04
of leaderboards.
38:06
Men, forty to forty four.
38:08
Jonathan Edel, first.
38:10
Chicho Quesada, second.
38:13
Julian Serna, third.
38:14
Rudy Berger, fourth.
38:15
And James St.
38:18
Legger, fifth.
38:20
I ran into James yesterday.
38:22
He was just so excited to be there.
38:25
He came all the way from the
38:26
UK and he just was ready to
38:29
get to Cheesecake Factory to eat some,
38:32
to try all the cheesecakes.
38:34
Awesome.
38:38
Men's, forty-five to forty-nine.
38:40
Jason Grubb pulls out the win.
38:42
Robbie McCord, second.
38:43
Robbie Perovich in third.
38:47
Cristiano Damasceno Leandro, fourth.
38:51
Nuno Costa, fifth.
38:54
Carolyn just wanted me to go to fifth,
38:55
so I had to pronounce all those names.
38:58
I'm looking at people that
39:01
got drug tested personally,
39:02
because we said that top five get tested,
39:05
so I'm just curious.
39:07
In fifty to fifty four,
39:08
Justin LaSalla took first.
39:10
Jamie McGarver took second.
39:13
Sean Ramirez and his comeback took third.
39:16
Joel Hughes took fourth and
39:18
Jason Leaves took fifth.
39:19
Joel Hughes,
39:20
that is the person who was
39:21
Ariel's original training partner.
39:23
Oh, nice.
39:24
And he was the two thousand
39:26
nineteen CrossFit Games champion.
39:28
And he came back five years
39:29
later trying to do it again.
39:31
He was in the lead for a lot
39:32
of the weekend.
39:34
But I think the front squat killed him,
39:35
too.
39:37
Front squat.
39:38
Cause he's, he's a little guy.
39:41
Only two points there
39:42
between four and five.
39:42
Got to talk to Sean Ramirez a little bit.
39:45
And it was a really good
39:45
conversation about how much
39:47
he appreciates being back.
39:49
Um,
39:50
and he's just kind of soaking it in now.
39:52
Uh,
39:54
very different than when he was there
39:55
before.
39:58
Men, fifty-five to fifty-nine.
40:01
John Kim, pretty much leader.
40:04
He was the leader most of the weekend.
40:05
Vic McQuaid, second.
40:07
Leonardo Lima, third.
40:10
Shannon McKibben, fourth.
40:12
And Mike Egan, fifth.
40:17
And then...
40:21
We get to sixty to sixty four.
40:24
Joe Ames,
40:25
who inspired someone to join a
40:26
CrossFit gym at the age of sixty two,
40:29
wins.
40:30
David Powell, second.
40:32
Tom Famry, third.
40:35
Stuart Swanson, fourth, and Peter Harvey,
40:37
fifth.
40:38
Tom Famry is just a great dude.
40:40
I talked to him a couple of
40:41
times in the back and he'll
40:43
be in the behind the scenes.
40:48
Awesome.
40:48
Men, sixty five plus.
40:51
John George first, Freddie Cherry second,
40:54
David Hippenstiel third,
40:57
fourth Dan Brannigan,
40:59
and fifth Dan Miller.
41:01
Boy,
41:02
they took so many hits on Hillers
41:05
coverage this weekend.
41:08
Was it all from that division?
41:10
Pretty much.
41:13
I know Dan Miller.
41:15
Um,
41:16
cause Jim's obviously competed with them,
41:18
like the guy a lot.
41:19
And I just see,
41:19
he got hammered in one of
41:20
the posts and obviously hip
41:22
and steel got hammered.
41:25
Oh, it's, it's tough.
41:28
So that, that poet,
41:30
the post that Hiller was
41:31
making was kind of what I would,
41:32
that's why I wanted to say
41:33
what I said at the beginning of the show,
41:35
right?
41:35
There's going to be,
41:38
There's going to be some bad,
41:39
but there's a lot of good
41:40
that happened this weekend,
41:41
and I don't want that to
41:42
outweigh what transpired
41:44
this weekend with all these athletes.
41:48
We go to the women,
41:49
thirty five to thirty nine.
41:50
We've talked about a lot.
41:51
Andrea Nestler just crushed this weekend.
41:54
Caroline Klutz took second,
41:57
and she's no joke.
41:58
She's good.
41:58
She's really good.
42:01
Sammy Scorcelli took third.
42:03
That's my fellow Michelle Gander.
42:06
I didn't know who she was,
42:07
and then I looked her up,
42:08
and she has a doodle that
42:10
looks identical to one of my doodles.
42:14
Oh, does she?
42:15
Yeah.
42:16
Yeah, she's on the, was on the stay,
42:19
stay strong team.
42:21
Um, and so like we had, I mean,
42:23
it was nice having other
42:24
Michigan people there, um,
42:25
in the crowds and like some
42:27
of them had bought my shirt.
42:28
So yeah, it was nice.
42:29
She made a big jump to get
42:31
that third place.
42:32
Cause she was, she did.
42:33
She won that last event.
42:34
Yeah.
42:35
Yeah.
42:35
She won that one.
42:36
It was impressive.
42:37
And then Kenzie Riley finishes fifth.
42:40
Yeah,
42:40
she struggled a little bit at the end
42:42
with her bar muscle-ups.
42:44
Went down because I think
42:45
she was in a podium position.
42:48
Nursing with her kids all
42:50
weekend and still pulling this stuff off.
42:54
That's just mad respect,
42:56
the balance that these athletes have.
43:01
And then, forty to forty-four,
43:04
Carly Newland's first,
43:06
Andrea Pinheiro second,
43:07
Carleen Matthews third,
43:09
Jamie Latimer fourth,
43:11
and Janine Shingleton in fifth.
43:14
Shillington.
43:15
Shillington.
43:15
Both Carleen and Jamie took
43:17
big hits on the front squat
43:21
because they're both very
43:23
consistent all weekend.
43:26
Carleen was in first, I think, or second,
43:28
and then dropped a little bit.
43:32
Same with you.
43:32
Like you guys are very similar finishes.
43:35
I felt like so close to each
43:38
other on every single event.
43:41
Crazy.
43:42
Yeah.
43:42
You guys had a few events
43:43
that you guys were just
43:44
back in like within one spot.
43:48
And you two are the same age too, right?
43:52
I think so.
43:53
I'm not certain on that.
43:56
So there's no shaking her.
43:59
Your division was strong though.
44:02
Those front squats.
44:05
Yeah, ridiculously strong.
44:08
Stronger than the
44:09
thirty-five to thirty-nine.
44:12
Women forty-five to
44:14
forty-nine was a big surprise.
44:19
Not to me.
44:19
Deanna is really, really good.
44:21
I know Kelly Friel is a valor.
44:25
Amazing, but
44:27
Maybe because she's from my area here,
44:28
so I know of her maybe more.
44:31
Yeah.
44:31
I'm just like Kelly's
44:34
five-time podium finisher
44:36
and three-time gold medalist.
44:38
She's a favorite coming in.
44:40
That's still an upset.
44:42
Because she got beat by twenty points.
44:44
Twenty-one points.
44:45
Yeah.
44:46
Close.
44:47
And then Val Vobrol in third.
44:51
What was Kelly's worst finish?
44:53
One point.
44:57
Yeah.
44:57
Where does she take a hit?
45:00
She struggled on that.
45:01
I mean, no, she, she was close to fit.
45:03
She never got back to the bike on the,
45:06
on the bike one.
45:07
That's one of the ones that
45:07
she was only a couple of cows,
45:09
but I still think she had a high finish.
45:13
Nineteenth on the.
45:14
No, that wouldn't be.
45:20
It's a nineteenth on this one.
45:22
What number is it?
45:25
Twenty seven.
45:27
So that's a standard.
45:29
That's what I wondered.
45:30
And then did she not do
45:31
great on the last workout either?
45:33
Yeah.
45:33
So maybe it's a muscle up issue.
45:36
Is she, is her, uh, on the last one.
45:42
Tenth.
45:43
So maybe something with some
45:45
sort of muscle up or body
45:46
pulling in general or pressing.
45:49
All right.
45:53
And then women, fifty to fifty four.
45:57
Uh, Janet black, Jen, Dieter, Kim Purdy,
46:01
Stephanie, China, Stephanie,
46:03
China had been in the top
46:04
three all weekend.
46:04
So I went and talked to her
46:05
Sunday morning and then she
46:06
fell off the podium one point.
46:08
Uh, and then T's Gabby was in fifth.
46:15
How did Stephanie do on that
46:16
last workout was,
46:18
did she tank it or was it
46:19
like second and she got
46:22
second and still didn't make it.
46:24
It moved back.
46:25
Oh.
46:27
It would be really
46:28
interesting to see if they
46:30
redid the scoring of the final event,
46:34
what the points would be.
46:37
I agree.
46:38
Holly.
46:39
Aaron.
46:40
Um, I just, just curious, uh, if you,
46:44
if you go on the podium or
46:46
cause you did do well in that last one,
46:47
Jamie.
46:48
So it would only help you.
46:49
I would assume, um,
46:52
just would be curious to
46:52
see how much the leaderboard shakes up.
46:54
What are the differences in points?
46:56
uh so then we go to fifty
46:58
five fifty nine joy and
46:59
cooper first tia mavre
47:03
second tia vesser third
47:05
shanna bunce fourth uh mara
47:08
cruz prieto in fifth by a tie oh
47:14
Yeah.
47:15
Oh, man.
47:16
That's her one of the games in twenty one.
47:20
How many events win that she has?
47:22
Because the one underneath
47:23
already has a one.
47:24
So one at least at least two events.
47:29
One.
47:30
But three.
47:32
OK, she must have more seconds.
47:33
She has a second.
47:34
She has a second place somewhere else,
47:36
maybe.
47:36
And then.
47:44
Are we up now?
47:46
Lex, they test one through five.
47:51
All right.
47:53
I can't figure out
47:53
tiebreakers on this stuff today.
47:55
And then in sixty to sixty four,
47:58
Laurie Mishiznik,
48:00
who I talked to to get the
48:01
pronunciation of her last name correct.
48:04
She won because I said, hey,
48:06
I'm saying your name way too many times.
48:07
I need to know how to pronounce it.
48:09
Betsy Vanderberg took second.
48:11
Those two were clearly head
48:13
and shoulders above in this field.
48:15
And then Marion Valkenberg, third.
48:18
Gina Vienna in fourth and
48:20
Lynn Knappman in fifth.
48:24
And then we finish with
48:26
sixty to sixty sixty five plus.
48:30
Where we had Patricia McGill,
48:32
our very own Denise Moore
48:34
in second and Julie Holt in third,
48:38
Diana Flynn in fourth and
48:39
Sue Lawson in fifth.
48:41
And they're not on this leaderboard,
48:43
but a huge shout out to the
48:45
seventy plus division who
48:48
are defying what age means
48:50
even further now.
48:52
There were like thirty some
48:54
competitors in the seventy
48:55
plus division putting it out on the line.
48:59
They were announced their
49:00
winners were announced on
49:01
Saturday night and had an
49:03
award ceremony Saturday night for them.
49:06
So congratulations to all
49:08
the seventy plus athletes
49:10
and and their weekend.
49:13
Jamie was every single
49:15
division top five or just
49:16
certain divisions top five.
49:18
You know,
49:19
I believe every single division
49:20
was top five.
49:22
Any randoms or do they only
49:23
do the top five?
49:24
I did not see any randoms.
49:27
It's too bad.
49:28
And thirty five to thirty
49:29
nine did blood as well.
49:31
That's good.
49:35
But not forty to forty-four?
49:37
No.
49:37
Everyone does blood?
49:40
Or at random?
49:40
Because at semifinals, for instance,
49:43
one year I got blood,
49:44
but not everyone else.
49:46
Certain people at random were chosen.
49:48
It looked to me that all five,
49:51
thirty-five to thirty-nine
49:52
that came in did blood.
49:54
Well, Carolyn,
49:54
it's because of your
49:55
physique that you got blood.
50:03
So, yeah.
50:05
I'm buff.
50:05
Can't trust Carolyn with those guns.
50:08
Big pythons.
50:09
Jokes around.
50:15
Anyway, I felt it was a great weekend.
50:18
I had a good time.
50:19
It was fun cheering for my
50:20
friends out there.
50:22
And I love these athletes.
50:23
And it was really cool
50:24
catching up with all of them.
50:26
uh we did do a behind the
50:28
scenes so huge shout out to
50:30
jonathan ortega and caitlyn
50:32
walters who were
50:33
videographers on the floor
50:35
the entire weekend jonathan
50:37
kind of ran that show for
50:38
me and I appreciate that
50:41
he's going to do all the
50:42
editing of the workout
50:43
reels that we put inside
50:45
the behind the scenes so
50:46
huge shout out to him
50:47
because he's going to
50:48
continue working with me
50:50
over the next few weeks
50:52
And then I'm looking at a
50:54
Monday or Tuesday release
50:55
like morning where I'll
50:57
release these early in the week.
50:59
Um,
50:59
so this coming Monday or Tuesday we'll
51:01
release episode one,
51:03
which will be check-in day.
51:04
And then every release after
51:06
that will be an event.
51:08
So the second week will be event one,
51:11
third week will be event
51:12
two and so on until we finish the events.
51:15
Um,
51:17
we got all the behind the
51:18
scenes footage holly is
51:20
working on graphics and
51:21
leaderboards for every
51:23
episode um so we'll have
51:25
those within the episode as
51:26
well you'll get clips of
51:28
the workouts and clips of
51:31
uh people coming off the
51:32
floor uh which was done by
51:34
ellie hiller and myself in
51:35
the back in the warm-up
51:37
area getting a footage of
51:39
people warming up and kind
51:40
of getting ready and
51:43
I will tell you this these
51:45
will get better as they go
51:46
because I got better as it went um
51:51
the questions and the way I
51:52
approach things change
51:54
completely from day one to
51:57
the end of the competition.
51:59
I became more voyeuristic at
52:01
the end where I would just
52:02
like come in on a coach and
52:03
an athlete talking and then
52:05
like have them explain to
52:06
me what they're talking about.
52:08
And then they opened up a
52:09
lot more about different things,
52:11
which became more natural
52:12
than like question provoked.
52:16
You also get to start like
52:17
seeing the story of the
52:18
weekend play out and can
52:21
then change a little bit
52:24
like your ideas and stuff.
52:26
And we tried to include as
52:27
many athletes as we could.
52:29
So I tried not to double up too much.
52:31
I tried to get different
52:33
people all throughout the
52:34
weekend to let them have a
52:37
little time in the sun as they went.
52:40
But as you get to the end
52:42
and things get crazy, there's tears,
52:45
there's emotion,
52:47
there's a lot of things
52:48
that happen at the end, which... Yeah.
52:53
We...
52:56
where else do you get to go
52:57
watch a mom come off the
52:58
floor and their little kids
53:00
jump up into their arms to
53:01
congratulate them after the event?
53:04
Like it just, there's magic at this place.
53:07
I think that people are
53:08
missing from not being
53:09
there that you don't get to
53:11
see everywhere in CrossFit.
53:13
And it was, it was freaking amazing.
53:15
And we captured some of those moments.
53:17
So that stuff will be in here as well.
53:22
What'll be the length of the episodes?
53:24
I'm trying to make them like
53:25
a half an hour or twenty to
53:27
thirty minutes.
53:28
I don't want them to.
53:29
I want them to be like bingeable.
53:33
Yeah.
53:34
You know, I mean,
53:36
but if the story is there,
53:37
I'm going to run with the
53:38
story till till its completion.
53:40
But but yeah,
53:43
the goal is twenty to thirty
53:45
minutes an episode.
53:48
And it'll be eleven episodes at the end.
53:55
so exciting so with that um
53:58
carolyn I know that jamie
53:59
and I did not see any of
54:00
the teens did you capture
54:03
any of the teens yeah I
54:05
watched um some of the
54:07
events uh just like in
54:10
between it was it was hard
54:11
to like catch all of it I was
54:15
Obviously, like,
54:16
seeing more of the Masters this weekend.
54:19
They had a cool opening
54:19
ceremony that I saw also
54:21
some highlights from.
54:23
And then the teens, they're strong.
54:25
Some of those teens are
54:28
pulling up some numbers, and I'm like,
54:29
damn!
54:32
Their running event, like,
54:34
on day one was cool.
54:36
The obstacle, like, had these, like,
54:38
steep hills that they were running up.
54:41
My, like,
54:45
Athletes,
54:45
I would just follow them all
54:46
weekend on the leaderboard.
54:48
The ones that I'd been
54:49
talking to and also seeing
54:50
their highlight stories and
54:52
stuff like that.
54:53
But again,
54:54
it's just unfortunate that both
54:55
of them were at the same
54:56
time because you're just
54:57
kind of going back and forth.
54:59
And because we were doing
55:00
the shows on Masters,
55:02
I felt the need to...
55:04
stay up to date with what
55:06
was going on in the master
55:07
side and watch the
55:08
divisions and see the
55:09
stories unfold so that I
55:11
could analyze and talk to
55:12
you in the evenings.
55:13
So that's one of the reasons
55:15
I was also like heavily
55:16
invested into the masters,
55:18
but not to say that I
55:19
didn't watch the teens at all.
55:21
One of my two is have
55:24
Stephanie on or something
55:25
this week to talk about a
55:26
debrief of the teens and
55:28
how it went up there.
55:29
So I'll contact her tomorrow
55:32
and see if we can have her
55:34
on to talk about that.
55:37
Because I know that for the
55:38
first time ever,
55:38
they went away from the pit
55:41
and into an arena at
55:43
Kalamazoo for days two and three.
55:46
And I'm anxious to know how
55:47
that went for them.
55:49
yeah like one of their
55:50
events that was at pit had
55:51
to um move because of the
55:55
uh the weather yeah yeah um
56:02
yeah I tristan was trying
56:03
to watch it a lot and when
56:06
I would like catch pieces
56:08
of it or when he was
56:09
talking to the other coach
56:09
there it sounded like it wasn't
56:12
Maybe because that arena is
56:14
bigger and more of the stadium,
56:15
it like looked empty is
56:17
what I was hearing early on.
56:18
I don't know if that was,
56:19
this was like Thursday and Friday.
56:21
So Saturday and Sunday
56:22
might've been way busier.
56:25
Busier there, I didn't follow up as much.
56:27
When they were lifting,
56:29
it looked empty on the back,
56:30
but I don't know if because
56:31
their fans wanted to be in
56:32
front of them cheering on
56:33
while they're facing.
56:34
So I didn't know if that was the case,
56:36
whether they put the fans
56:37
on one side because that's
56:38
the side they're facing
56:39
when they're competing,
56:41
which then leaves the
56:42
opposite side feeling empty.
56:45
Oftentimes in sports,
56:47
you put the fans where the
56:48
camera is going to be so it looks...
56:50
yeah better but not I guess
56:52
you wouldn't want to see an
56:53
empty side on the on like
56:54
for crossfit right so on a
56:58
different note I'm going to
56:59
put up these two comments
57:00
back to back and you can
57:02
surmise what you will uh
57:04
keeping it real just got
57:05
here jamie is third fittest
57:07
thank you we'll let you
57:08
guys surmise why uh they
57:10
need some randoms in there
57:11
because needles
57:16
so take a sip um cheers on
57:24
an on the next topic uh
57:25
page powers announced on
57:27
her youtube page yeah um
57:31
and due in february huge
57:36
huge news huge news
57:39
So this is like the first
57:41
younger athlete to announce
57:44
a pregnancy in the middle
57:45
of their career.
57:47
I'm assuming it will have
57:49
little to no effect on her
57:51
overall career.
57:51
She's only twenty or twenty one.
57:54
Right.
57:54
Twenty two.
57:55
Twenty one, I think.
57:59
And if.
58:03
And Carolyn corrected me on
58:04
this the other night,
58:04
but most women who stay fit
58:08
recover from pregnancy a
58:09
little bit faster.
58:11
There are exceptions to that rule, like,
58:13
i.e.,
58:14
Lindsay Valenzuela and the
58:15
complications she had.
58:17
But I'm sure she'll be back
58:19
and better than ever.
58:21
Probably, I'm guessing,
58:22
the twenty twenty six season.
58:26
But Andrea Nistler kind of
58:28
proved us all wrong.
58:30
Yeah.
58:30
I mean,
58:30
Andrea and Tia are like not the
58:33
norm or someone to compare
58:34
yourself to as even a high level athlete.
58:37
I think that they're an
58:38
anomaly that most women
58:41
will never be able to do
58:43
what they've been able to
58:44
do at such a fast time after pregnancy.
58:48
And it's been crazy to watch
58:50
their journey and
58:51
And I feel like every
58:53
woman's journey is slightly different,
58:55
obviously.
58:56
And it'll be interesting to
58:57
see whether Paige turns the
58:59
page to CrossFit and moves
59:01
on to something else or
59:03
whether she continues to
59:04
pursue her dream of going
59:07
to the CrossFit Games as a mom.
59:10
Either way, I think we'll be, you know,
59:13
we'll be good and we'll be
59:14
following her journey.
59:16
Yeah.
59:17
Like we've said with a lot
59:17
of the young athletes,
59:20
whatever makes them happy, right?
59:22
You know, um, they have to do what,
59:24
what that is.
59:28
Uh, Linda jury says a Nistler Tia,
59:31
she'll be good.
59:32
She'll most probably defeat me in the open,
59:34
even being nine months pregnant.
59:37
Uh, same here.
59:41
And I'll have scaled as well.
59:43
So
59:46
The last topic we have for
59:47
tonight is... And I don't
59:50
want to get into this on a
59:51
long debate because I've
59:52
talked about it for the last two weeks.
59:55
It is the formation of the PFAA.
59:57
And I have said over and
59:58
over again that...
1:00:00
I think that athletes should
1:00:02
have a say in some way.
1:00:05
But I was curious and I was
1:00:08
alarmed at the structure of
1:00:11
what the PFA was and did
1:00:13
they have bylaws with
1:00:16
voting members and did the
1:00:20
voting members get a chance
1:00:22
to vote on whatever it is that they do.
1:00:25
They went on coffee pods and wads.
1:00:27
I listened to that on my trip home.
1:00:31
It was very vague in how
1:00:32
they explained that.
1:00:35
Then after that,
1:00:36
Savan did a show with Saxon
1:00:38
Pancheck and Angelo DiCicco
1:00:41
who spelled out things that
1:00:42
were missing from what
1:00:45
Brent and Pat said on
1:00:46
Coffee Pods and WODs.
1:00:48
And this was the warning
1:00:50
that I was trying to say.
1:00:52
Without structure in your
1:00:54
organization and voting on
1:00:56
topics like this,
1:00:58
Now you're getting
1:00:59
dissension where people are
1:01:01
saying they didn't have the right to vote,
1:01:03
where they did not get to
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have a say in what was released.
1:01:07
I don't know what the truth is,
1:01:09
but without structure,
1:01:10
it leaves you open to all of this.
1:01:13
And athletes saying that we
1:01:14
are not being represented by them,
1:01:16
they are only representing
1:01:17
the eight people that signed it.
1:01:23
And so we can leave that
1:01:25
open for like a longer
1:01:27
discussion on one of our other shows,
1:01:29
but I didn't want to dive
1:01:30
into that fully tonight
1:01:32
because this is really a
1:01:33
wrap up show and my
1:01:34
daughter's coming into town tonight.
1:01:36
So I didn't want to go super long,
1:01:38
but something is brewing
1:01:40
here and I don't want it to
1:01:42
be dissension.
1:01:43
I want the athletes to come
1:01:45
together as one voice,
1:01:47
but it needs structure and
1:01:48
it needs to be
1:01:49
representative of all athletes.
1:01:52
not just a select few in what they want.
1:01:56
I like Brent.
1:01:58
I like Pat.
1:01:59
I'm not trying to go against
1:02:01
what they're trying to do.
1:02:03
All I was saying was it
1:02:05
needs a proper structure so
1:02:07
that you can show that
1:02:09
you're representing the athletes.
1:02:11
And I think they skipped a
1:02:12
few steps along the way,
1:02:14
and now they're getting bit
1:02:15
in the butt by it.
1:02:18
I think certain points will
1:02:21
get most athletes behind
1:02:24
and certain stuff will
1:02:25
never be a unanimous thing.
1:02:28
So that's where I think it
1:02:29
might be the decision to
1:02:31
like focus on the things
1:02:32
that maybe they can all agree on, um,
1:02:36
as going forward,
1:02:38
just sound like some of the
1:02:41
demands that they made, um, obviously is,
1:02:44
um,
1:02:46
not like not on the same
1:02:47
page for everyone.
1:02:49
Um, and some of them,
1:02:50
everyone would agree like
1:02:51
that would make sense.
1:02:53
Right.
1:02:53
So even some of the things
1:02:54
that they had prior to even
1:02:56
this happening, like years ago, like,
1:02:58
okay, like, um,
1:02:59
having the size of the rig
1:03:00
or ropes cut or, you know,
1:03:02
things that we've learned
1:03:03
through experience and,
1:03:05
and having a better, um,
1:03:08
online competition pro like process.
1:03:10
Like, I feel like most athletes would
1:03:13
agree that these are changes
1:03:15
that you know we want so I
1:03:18
think just beginning with
1:03:20
at least that before
1:03:23
because if I think if you
1:03:24
if you push certain stuff
1:03:25
that divide right away and
1:03:27
I think it's gonna be hard
1:03:28
for the pfa to continue but
1:03:30
if at least you have
1:03:31
everyone on the same page
1:03:32
on certain points to begin
1:03:33
with I think you can start
1:03:34
growing and then taking
1:03:36
into account different um
1:03:39
thoughts and stuff like that
1:03:40
going forward I don't know
1:03:42
if that makes sense so I
1:03:44
think I I hear what you're
1:03:45
saying and I do agree to
1:03:46
with it in most part but I
1:03:49
think it regardless of what
1:03:50
they're they're asking for
1:03:52
if you can say we put this
1:03:54
to a vote of our body of
1:03:56
the athletes that we
1:03:57
represent and whatever your
1:03:59
bylaws say it passed by a
1:04:06
then we are representing the
1:04:07
body as a whole because
1:04:09
that passed a vote.
1:04:11
If you don't put it out to
1:04:12
the body to vote on,
1:04:14
then you're putting
1:04:17
yourself out there on a
1:04:18
limb with only the board
1:04:20
voting on it to say this is what we want.
1:04:24
Now you've got the divisiveness.
1:04:26
If I'm an athlete who has
1:04:28
voted and at least got my say,
1:04:30
then I'm okay with you
1:04:32
moving forward with whatever it is.
1:04:35
And it just becomes who can vote, right?
1:04:37
Like in their thing,
1:04:38
it was like a two year,
1:04:40
is it individual athletes only?
1:04:41
Do the masters count?
1:04:43
Do the teams count?
1:04:44
And I get, we're talking about the games.
1:04:46
Cause if we start going all
1:04:47
the way until the open, like, I mean,
1:04:50
there'd be a ridiculous
1:04:51
amount of people to survey.
1:04:54
Let's say you go games and
1:04:56
is it only the end of it?
1:04:57
Like, where does it like,
1:04:58
what is your pool of athletes?
1:04:59
Cause that should be clear too,
1:05:00
whether it's,
1:05:01
you can only be an individual athlete.
1:05:03
masters and elite right like
1:05:08
it's just leaving teams out
1:05:11
is a big miss and I think
1:05:13
the larger the body the
1:05:15
better your position is
1:05:17
So when you're limiting yourself, yeah,
1:05:20
you shouldn't go all the way to the open.
1:05:21
That's just ridiculous.
1:05:23
But to go to at least all
1:05:25
games qualifiers in all
1:05:27
divisions or to maybe semifinals, maybe.
1:05:33
Because now you've got not only dissension,
1:05:36
but you have athletes
1:05:37
questioning leadership.
1:05:39
Mm-hmm.
1:05:40
Like it, and now it's getting bad when,
1:05:43
when it should be a unified,
1:05:44
this should have unified
1:05:46
athletes to get what they wanted.
1:05:48
And instead it's cutting them in half.
1:05:53
Yeah.
1:05:55
I, I loved Saxon.
1:05:56
He, I mean, boy, he was, he was on fire.
1:06:02
I mean,
1:06:02
I feel like he had a lot of the
1:06:03
same points you've talked about Carolyn,
1:06:05
like
1:06:07
You as a current athlete can't really,
1:06:09
like, what are you asking for?
1:06:10
You're asking to know these
1:06:11
workouts in advance?
1:06:12
Like, that doesn't work.
1:06:18
The biggest problem to our sport,
1:06:20
I'm going to say it again,
1:06:21
I say that I've said it
1:06:22
many times is the unknown and unknowable.
1:06:24
Like it is the biggest
1:06:25
barrier to our sport having
1:06:28
any credibility to be
1:06:29
professional and stuff like that.
1:06:31
And to moving like moving forward,
1:06:33
like there's just so many
1:06:35
problems with the unknown and unknowable,
1:06:37
the leaks.
1:06:38
the, the movement standards,
1:06:41
the changes continuously,
1:06:43
like the safety that you
1:06:44
can predict what could happen.
1:06:46
Cause things just get invented.
1:06:47
Workouts get invented constantly.
1:06:49
Like that barrier.
1:06:52
I don't know.
1:06:53
Like,
1:06:53
I don't know if the sport itself has
1:06:55
to be completely different than the,
1:06:57
than the methodology,
1:06:58
which I don't think it needs to,
1:06:59
but at the same time,
1:07:00
like if you want it to be
1:07:03
professional like that, it could like,
1:07:06
I don't, I just don't know.
1:07:07
Like
1:07:09
Like I get the unknowable is
1:07:10
so important to CrossFit
1:07:12
and developing people,
1:07:13
but I just think that
1:07:16
there's so many issues with
1:07:17
it at the same time.
1:07:20
So, so I think what's happening is,
1:07:23
and I think Saxon tried to
1:07:24
say this in the interview as well is.
1:07:30
And we've talked about it.
1:07:32
The CrossFit Games are
1:07:34
usually the safest run
1:07:36
competition out there.
1:07:37
Yeah.
1:07:39
It just had the biggest faux
1:07:41
pas that happened, right?
1:07:46
So for the most part,
1:07:48
you have confidence in things, but
1:07:52
If you vote on a neutral
1:07:54
third party that has no
1:07:56
affiliation with the
1:07:56
athletes and no affiliation with CrossFit,
1:08:00
and they can look at the
1:08:01
safety plan and say, hey,
1:08:04
this is good or not good,
1:08:05
and both sides agree to it,
1:08:08
I think that's what Saxon is looking for.
1:08:12
right not coming in and
1:08:14
saying hey we want to look
1:08:15
at your workouts and say
1:08:18
they're okay they're not
1:08:19
okay they still need to be
1:08:20
involved in the sport
1:08:21
somehow they need to
1:08:22
understand the movements
1:08:23
and right but not be an
1:08:25
active athlete I think is
1:08:26
what he was saying yeah
1:08:28
because you can have access
1:08:29
to information above other
1:08:30
people like and that's what
1:08:32
I said prior to this is it's it's
1:08:36
it's just tough.
1:08:36
Cause it's like, Oh, you like,
1:08:38
you're an active athlete at
1:08:40
the highest level.
1:08:41
Like you,
1:08:42
you just can't have access to
1:08:43
certain information.
1:08:44
Even if you do share it to others,
1:08:46
like it just,
1:08:47
you're still getting it first.
1:08:50
It's, and that probably is a head,
1:08:51
like a hesitation from the
1:08:53
games to also communicate
1:08:54
with them because they're
1:08:56
active and they don't know
1:08:56
what kind of information to give, um,
1:09:01
so aaron I I want to speak
1:09:02
to this if they're only if
1:09:04
they are doing only
1:09:05
individual games then why
1:09:07
do they want to step in and
1:09:08
have influence on smaller
1:09:09
events I agree like your
1:09:12
your body are only games
1:09:14
athletes who have made it
1:09:16
in the last two years who
1:09:18
are allowed to vote those
1:09:19
are the only people allowed
1:09:20
to vote no teams no masters no teens
1:09:25
no semifinal athletes.
1:09:27
Yet issues that you have
1:09:28
brought up yourself are ropes being cut,
1:09:31
which happened at semifinals,
1:09:33
bar height or ring height,
1:09:36
which happened at semifinals.
1:09:40
If you're going to include
1:09:41
these things that need
1:09:42
changed at the semifinal level,
1:09:44
semifinal athletes should
1:09:46
have a say in that as well.
1:09:49
And semifinal and games
1:09:50
athletes include teams.
1:09:54
They're working out on the same bars,
1:09:56
same ropes, same swim, all that stuff.
1:10:01
Yep.
1:10:03
And it doesn't hurt you to
1:10:04
expand your body and have
1:10:06
bigger representation.
1:10:07
It just doesn't.
1:10:11
But
1:10:13
Sorry.
1:10:14
It's just been like this
1:10:15
thing in my craw for the last two weeks.
1:10:18
And I just think it needs
1:10:20
better organization.
1:10:21
I want them to succeed.
1:10:23
Trust me,
1:10:24
this is not coming after them to
1:10:26
like disband or they just
1:10:28
need the organization
1:10:29
behind it to make sense.
1:10:36
um so whitney I actually
1:10:38
listened to jason a lot I I
1:10:41
saw his pfa thing a while back
1:10:44
And I knew they were in
1:10:45
their infancy back then.
1:10:48
I was hoping that through the years,
1:10:50
they would develop into a
1:10:51
professional organization.
1:10:53
I belong to a professional organization,
1:10:55
so I'm watching it from the
1:10:56
eyes of someone who has
1:10:58
been the president of my
1:10:59
professional organization,
1:11:00
who has been a board member,
1:11:02
who has had to work with the bylaws.
1:11:04
That's what I'm looking at,
1:11:06
and it's falling short on many levels.
1:11:13
Okay.
1:11:14
but um so with that we I'm
1:11:20
sure this will be a topic
1:11:21
as more people because now
1:11:23
that two people have spoke
1:11:24
up you know more coming
1:11:26
that's just the way the world works uh
1:11:31
So anyway, with that,
1:11:33
we're going to let everybody go tonight.
1:11:35
I'm going to go hug my
1:11:36
daughter because I haven't
1:11:37
seen her in a while.
1:11:38
And we will see you Sunday
1:11:41
night this week at our normal time,
1:11:44
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1:11:46
for Sunday night CrossFit talk.
1:11:48
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1:11:50
Thank you.
1:11:51
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