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M and M Extra 7.13.26: Remembering Senator Lindsey Graham · The M&M Experience

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Speaker 1: Welcome to a meeting of the minds crafted from decades
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Speaker 1: of talk show experience, an extension of the magic they've
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Speaker 1: Mark Davis and Mike Gallagher. This is eminem.
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Speaker 2: Extra And of course, no matter what we plan to
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Speaker 2: talk about today, the death of Senator Lindsey Graham Saturday night,
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Speaker 2: of course heads us into a very different and unpleasant direction.
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Speaker 2: Welcome in to this Monday again tragic news, a shock,
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Speaker 2: a shocker, a stunner, the seventy one year old, seemingly
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Speaker 2: healthy US senator from South Carolina who evidently suffered an
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Speaker 2: aortic rupture, a tear in his aorda that was brought
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Speaker 2: on by basically hardening of the arteries, and the same
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Speaker 2: thing that took the life of John Ritter, who died
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Speaker 2: Remember on the set of the TV show he was on.
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Speaker 2: So welcome in. I'm Mike from that M He's Mark
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Speaker 2: the other M and Mark. What a tragedy you and
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Speaker 2: I were. In fact, I first learned the news. I
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Speaker 2: slept in a little bit Sunday morning, and the text
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Speaker 2: came in from you. You were the first one to
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Speaker 2: tell me that Lindsey Graham had.
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Speaker 3: Passed, as will happen. You and I text like schoolgirls
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Speaker 3: on the weekend sometimes and so many is the time
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Speaker 3: I'll get up and scroll through, saying, see what's happened
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Speaker 3: while I was sleeping, But if you're up before me,
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Speaker 3: and sometimes it'll be kind of an oblique reference. So
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Speaker 3: it occurred to me now in retrospect that I did
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Speaker 3: this to you. So you woke up and all you
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Speaker 3: saw from me was I think it was like Lindsey Graham,
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Speaker 3: Oh my lord. And you had no idea what I
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Speaker 3: was talking about until you did, And then we were
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Speaker 3: back and forth about that and this. You know. I mean,
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Speaker 3: he's seventy one, and that's too early. Those of us
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Speaker 3: that are late sixties will always say that that's less
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Speaker 3: than the average American life span. But it's not like
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Speaker 3: he's forty. He's a spring chicken compared to McConnell and
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Speaker 3: Chuck Grassley and even trumped himself. But it's not about
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Speaker 3: the number. He had a certain vigorousness and a certain
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Speaker 3: energy to him that made him, shall we say, play
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Speaker 3: a little younger than he was, and it's absolutely a shock,
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Speaker 3: and I don't know what the first thing is you
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Speaker 3: want to do, but it's funny. You have so expertly
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Speaker 3: covered the South Carolina scene and some of the nuts
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Speaker 3: and bolts of this. I think that's one vital part
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Speaker 3: of what we'll do today. What I did was sort
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Speaker 3: of immerse myself along with listeners in what we think
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Speaker 3: of him and what our thoughts are on this occasion,
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Speaker 3: and how we feel about the mixed bag that is
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Speaker 3: kind of his political appeal. So I think all of
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Speaker 3: that in one big hopper will will serve us well today.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 2: It's funny because anytime I would mention Lindsey Graham in
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Speaker 2: any way, shape or form, my text line would blow
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Speaker 2: up with criticism of Senator Graham. I think if there's
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Speaker 2: one issue, and you and I talked about this this
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Speaker 2: morning on your show, the fact is there's two different
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Speaker 2: ways is to react with any kind of critical thinking
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Speaker 2: after somebody passes, you can critically analyze their record, you
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Speaker 2: can talk about their work if you will, certainly talk
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Speaker 2: about the legacy as it were with somebody like or
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Speaker 2: you can go full blown whack job raging, you know,
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Speaker 2: red faced spittle flying out of your mouth, horrible things
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Speaker 2: said about him, and some people have done that, this
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Speaker 2: jank Ungar and these young Turks saying horrific things about
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Speaker 2: Senator Graham Anna one of his cast members saying, you know,
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Speaker 2: her first words right out of the gate were good riddance.
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Speaker 2: And people posting horrible, horrible memes and videos celebrating his death.
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Speaker 2: Not unlike what they did with Charlie kirk Mark, I mean.
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Speaker 3: No, indeed. And some of it was liberals, and some
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Speaker 3: of it were these Trump hating I don't even want
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Speaker 3: to call them conservatives or Republicans. And the this Steve Schmidt,
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Speaker 3: what a piece of crap. This guy is a Lincoln
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Speaker 3: Project guy. Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. The Trump hatred.
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Speaker 3: You know, I've got my tds axioms. That makes Trump
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Speaker 3: hatred makes smart people stupid, funny people unfunny, nice people.
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Speaker 5: Mean.
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Speaker 3: It also takes the basic decency that might live in
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Speaker 3: the heart of a normal human being and strips it away.
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Speaker 3: If it's about Trump, you get to go instantly to
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Speaker 3: the cruelty phase because he's just that bad to you.
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Speaker 3: And it's not just liberals who do that. Some of
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Speaker 3: it are these these squishy, soft Lincoln Project Bulwark, former
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Speaker 3: Republican crowd.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know what's fascinating though, there is hope sometimes
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Speaker 2: and Lindsey Graham, perhaps Ted Cruz, maybe even Marco Rubio,
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Speaker 2: even JD. Vance are examples of people who butted heads
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Speaker 2: early on with President Trump, said really bad things about him,
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Speaker 2: you know, very negative things about him, and now they're
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Speaker 2: either you know, his vice president, or became his golfing
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Speaker 2: buddy and close confidant, like Lindsey Graham did with President Trump.
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Speaker 2: How about the conversion. I don't want to go down
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Speaker 2: too far this rabbit hole, but I think it's worth
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Speaker 2: a mention because it ties into what you just said.
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Speaker 2: How about Michael Cohen? Have you seen what he's now doing?
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Speaker 2: He apparently they've made peace now. Michael Cohen was one.
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Speaker 3: Of the former fixer, a jail bird fixer.
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Speaker 2: The former attorney and fixer if you will, of President Trump.
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Speaker 2: He turned on Trump famously. I think he went to
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Speaker 2: jail uh and would give all these interviews just bashing
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Speaker 2: the hell out of him, knocking him at one. Now
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Speaker 2: Cohen is saying that he and Trump have made amends.
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Speaker 2: Michael Cohen is now speaking positively about President Trump. If
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Speaker 2: there's anybody you would have predicted could never have come around.
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Speaker 5: It was that guy. But he has.
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Speaker 2: So you can get yourself out of this TDS. I
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Speaker 2: think if you.
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Speaker 5: Want to, you can.
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Speaker 3: And there's something I'm scrolling scrolling because if we've got
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Speaker 3: just one thing that I posted was from you, from
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Speaker 3: a blogger called Flopping Aces. Yeah, the one that begins
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Speaker 3: that Lindsay Graham was never an easy man for conservatives
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Speaker 3: to love. It was kind of a not grudging but
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Speaker 3: kind of a very balanced, ultimately an appreciation for what
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Speaker 3: he did, even if he drove you crazy. Sometimes things
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Speaker 3: like that. There is one lady and Jennifer Gingrich no
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Speaker 3: relation to Newt. I'm just trying to find it because
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Speaker 3: and I'll find it at some point while we're doing
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Speaker 3: this because her I can probably paraphrase it. She essentially said,
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Speaker 3: it was kind of partial shame on my part that
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Speaker 3: kept me from commenting about Lindsey Graham for a few hours,
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Speaker 3: because I just wanted to come to terms with my
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Speaker 3: own thoughts and some of my own journey. She said.
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Speaker 3: Her Twitter profile says feminist librarian, so okay, but then
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Speaker 3: she says men cannot become women and men don't belong
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Speaker 3: in women's public spaces, and I support Israel. So it's
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Speaker 3: like things that maybe her party isn't doing right anymore.
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Speaker 3: And one of the things that her party has done
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Speaker 3: is the political savagery. And she just said, as somebody
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Speaker 3: who is now kind of a center left moderate, I
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Speaker 3: just want to realize that all. I just want to
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Speaker 3: express my realization that all the terrible things I said
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Speaker 3: about Lindsey Graham just years ago, not so many years ago,
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Speaker 3: were horrible. I called him a bigot. I was the bigot,
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Speaker 3: she said. I just totally went with things because everybody
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Speaker 3: in Hollywood and academia told me that all the Conservatives
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Speaker 3: and the Republicans were terrible people, and I just swallowed that.
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Speaker 3: I never thought for myself, and I am thinking for
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Speaker 3: myself now, and I want to apologize for ever thinking
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Speaker 3: those things. And I hope that his memory is a blessing.
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Speaker 3: And so was more. I was as blown away by that,
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Speaker 3: maybe even more so than the appreciation of a long
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Speaker 3: time ally. That's class. That's class, and that's grace.
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Speaker 2: Well, if you don't mind, because I was so impressed
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Speaker 2: by this post by flopping aces, let me share some
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Speaker 2: of it with everyone, because it really because you're right
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Speaker 2: that Flopping Aces wrote that Lindsay was never an easy
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Speaker 2: man for conservatives to love, and I like that characterization
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Speaker 2: because it's kind of it really is true, Flopping Aces,
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Speaker 2: whoever the hell Flopping Aces is, writes he could be maddening, inconsistent,
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Speaker 2: too comfortable with Washington, too eager for foreign entanglements, and
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Speaker 2: far too willing to wander into the arms of the
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Speaker 2: same establishment that spent years trying to crush the people
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Speaker 2: who elected him. But pretending he didn't matter would be dishonest.
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Speaker 2: When Lindsey Graham chose to fight, he could change the
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Speaker 2: temperature of the entire room. Best example came during the
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Speaker 2: Kavanaugh hearings, when Republicans were shrinking, Democrats were running a
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Speaker 2: televised character assassination, and the whole nomination looked ready to
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Speaker 2: collapse under the weight of cowardice. Then Lindsey Graham stopped
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Speaker 2: playing nice. He called the hearing what it was, an
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Speaker 2: unethical sham designed to destroy a man hold a Supreme
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Speaker 2: Court seat open, and went through political sabotage in five minutes.
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Speaker 2: He said what millions were screaming at their TVs and
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Speaker 2: reminded Republicans that they were allowed to defend themselves that moment,
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Speaker 2: which we're going to play in a second. We have
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Speaker 2: to mattered. His enemies knew he mattered too. Iranian media
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Speaker 2: didn't celebrate his death because he was irrelevant. They celebrated
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Speaker 2: his death because he had spent years treating their regime
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Speaker 2: like the threat it is. You do not cheer the
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Speaker 2: removal of a harmless man Graham's record, he concludes, or
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Speaker 2: she concludes, or whoever flopping aces is concludes by saying
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Speaker 2: his record deserves argument. It doesn't require sainthood. He was complicated,
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Speaker 2: often frustrating, sometimes flat wrong. But impact is not measured
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Speaker 2: by how perfectly a politician pleased his own side. It
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Speaker 2: is measured by whether he could alter event events, rally allies,
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Speaker 2: anger enemies, and leave a hole when he was gone.
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Speaker 2: Lindsey Graham did all four that powerful.
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Speaker 3: Mark was absolutely spectacular and speaking of powerful, through the
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Speaker 3: are we do you have that teed up? This is
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Speaker 3: going to take three four minutes and I played this.
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Speaker 3: It's worth of this, It's worth every show, It's worth
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Speaker 3: it every second. And I was familiar with it. I
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Speaker 3: remembered it in twenty eighteen when it happened, probably revisited
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Speaker 3: a few times. Whatever. That's obviously because of the occasion
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Speaker 3: that it carries extra gravity. I teared up. I mean
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Speaker 3: I had to kind of gather myself a little bit
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Speaker 3: before the clip ended. The show sit And it is
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Speaker 3: just even if he Lindsey Graham, needed to make a
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Speaker 3: journey on borders. He used to be a softie. That
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Speaker 3: earned him the nickname Lindsey Grahamnesty. We all remember that
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Speaker 3: he got better. Trump made him better. He made he
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Speaker 3: had the wisdom to make himself better. He a boy,
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Speaker 3: He loved deployment of the American military. He was the
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Speaker 3: picture of the Neocon ready to go anywhere in the world.
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Speaker 3: That wasn't That didn't become my jam. It's not Trump's jam.
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Speaker 3: But even on Ukraine, where I think a president Lindsay
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Speaker 3: Graham would have had fifty thousand troops on the ground
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Speaker 3: by now, he knows that that Trump is president and
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Speaker 3: was instead with the last public service thing he did
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Speaker 3: over in Ukraine, trying to work for sanctions that were
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Speaker 3: stiff enough that maybe Putin would agree to come to
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Speaker 3: the table and make a deal so that the war
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Speaker 3: could end. So there have been things where you as
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Speaker 3: a talk show guy, and he's a talk show guy.
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Speaker 3: We've had moments that are good Lindsay and bad Lindsay,
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Speaker 3: as we've called them, and some more moments are like Lindsay,
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Speaker 3: come on, dude, but this moment, let me let you
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Speaker 3: go ahead and set it up. This is one of
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Speaker 3: the finest moments by any senator on any occasion. Brett
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Speaker 3: Kavanaugh was a constitutionalist Supreme Court justice. Thank god Trump
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Speaker 3: won and that meant that he had to be had to.
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Speaker 3: They tried it with Bork, they and they got him.
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Speaker 3: They tried it with Clarence Thomas. They did not almost
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Speaker 3: got him, but they did almost got him. But this
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Speaker 3: is the drill. I don't pretend it's going to change.
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Speaker 3: A constitutionalist Supreme Court justice justices are kryptonite to these people.
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Speaker 3: So they because they actually follow the law, they follow
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Speaker 3: the constitution rather than rule according to their political beliefs
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Speaker 3: that Sonya Sotomayo or Lena Kagan, you know, Kasanji Brown
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Speaker 3: Jackson way of doing things. Our guys, our constitutionalist guys,
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Speaker 3: are kryptonite to them, and that is why the left
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Speaker 3: tried to destroy him and single handedly. Lindsey Graham called
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Speaker 3: it out in one of the most amazing moments in
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Speaker 3: Senate history.
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Speaker 5: Here it is.
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Speaker 6: Are you aware that at nine to twenty three on
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Speaker 6: the night of July, of the night the day you
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Speaker 6: were nominated to the Supreme Court by President Trump, Senator
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Speaker 6: Schumer said twenty three minutes after your nomination, I will
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Speaker 6: oppose Judge Kavanaugh's nomination with everything I have. I have
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Speaker 6: a bypartison, and I hope a by person majority will
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Speaker 6: do the same. The stakes are simply too high for
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Speaker 6: anything less. Well, if you weren't aware of it, you
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Speaker 6: are now. Did you meet with Senator Diane Feinstein on
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Speaker 6: August twentieth?
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Speaker 4: I did meet with Senta Fineste.
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Speaker 6: Did you know that her staff had already recommended a
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Speaker 6: lawyer to doctor Ford.
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Speaker 4: I did not know that.
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Speaker 6: Did you know that her and her staff had this
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Speaker 6: allegations for over twenty days?
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Speaker 4: I did not know that at the time.
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Speaker 6: If you wanted an FBI investigation, you could have come
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Speaker 6: to us. What you want to do is destroy this
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Speaker 6: guy's life, hold this seat open, and hope you went
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Speaker 6: in twenty twenty You've said that, not me. You've got
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Speaker 6: nothing to apologize for. When you see Soda Maron Kagan,
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Speaker 6: tell him that Lindsay said, Oh, because I voted for them,
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Speaker 6: I would never do to them what you've done.
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Speaker 4: To this guy.
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Speaker 6: This is the most unethical sham since I've been in politics.
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Speaker 6: And if you really wanted to know the truth, you
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Speaker 6: sure as hell wouldn't have done what you've done to
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Speaker 6: this guy. Are you a gang rapist?
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Speaker 7: No?
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Speaker 6: I cannot imagine what you and your family have gone through. Boy,
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Speaker 6: y'all want power. God, I hope you never get it.
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Speaker 6: I hope the American people can see through this sham
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Speaker 6: that you knew about it and you held it. You
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Speaker 6: had no intention of protecting doctor Ford none. She's as
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Speaker 6: much of a victim as you are.
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Speaker 4: God.
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Speaker 6: I hate to say it because these have been my friends,
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Speaker 6: but let me tell you when it comes to this,
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Speaker 6: you're looking for a fair process. You came to the
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Speaker 6: wrong town at the wrong time.
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Speaker 4: My friend.
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Speaker 6: Do you consider this a job interview?
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Speaker 4: The advice and consent role is like a job.
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Speaker 6: You consider that you been through a job interview.
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Speaker 4: I've been through a process of advice and consent under
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Speaker 4: the Constitution.
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Speaker 6: Would you say you've been through hell?
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Speaker 4: I've been through hell and then some. This is not
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Speaker 4: a job interview. This is hell.
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Speaker 6: This is going to destroy the ability of good people
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Speaker 6: to come.
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Speaker 4: Forward because of this crap.
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Speaker 6: Your high school yearbook. You have interacted with professional women
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Speaker 6: all your life, not one accusation. You're supposed to be
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Speaker 6: Bill Cosby when you're a junior and senior in high school,
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Speaker 6: and all of a sudden you got over it. It's
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Speaker 6: been my understanding that if you drug women and rape
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Speaker 6: them for two years in high school, you probably don't stop.
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Speaker 6: Here's my understanding. If you lived a good life, people
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Speaker 6: would recognize it, like the American bar associate as the
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Speaker 6: gold standard. His integrity is absolutely unquestioned. He is the
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Speaker 6: very circumspect in his personal conduct, harbors no biases or prejudices.
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Speaker 6: He's entirely ethical, is a really decent person. He is warm, friendly, unassuming.
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Speaker 6: He's the nicest person.
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Speaker 7: The ABA.
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Speaker 6: One thing I can tell you you should be proud
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Speaker 6: of Ashley. You should be proud of this that you
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Speaker 6: raised a daughter who had the good character to pray
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Speaker 6: for doctor Ford. To my Republican colleagues, if you vote no,
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Speaker 6: you're legitimizing the most despicable thing I have seen in
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Speaker 6: my time in politics. You want this seat, I hope
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Speaker 6: you never get it. I hope you're on the Supreme Court.
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Speaker 6: That's exactly where you should be. And I hope that
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Speaker 6: the American people will see through this charade, and I
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Speaker 6: wish you will, and I intend to vote for you,
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Speaker 6: and I hope everybody who's fair minded will Mark.
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Speaker 3: I believe that's what you call good lindsay. That is
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Speaker 3: the best. Somebody on my text line said, Mark, after
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Speaker 3: years of hearing you talk about good Lindsay and bad Lindsay,
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Speaker 3: you've done it to me again and every time you've
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Speaker 3: done it to me again, and that the texter said,
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Speaker 3: I want to establish a new hashtag best Lindsay because
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Speaker 3: it just was. And when he was wrong, he can
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Speaker 3: make you crazy. But when he was right, which was
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Speaker 3: most of the time, there were few people who came
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Speaker 3: at it with his style, his grace, sometimes not so
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Speaker 3: much grace, sometimes a little more fire, which is what
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Speaker 3: was absolutely called for. There were two things that make
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Speaker 3: that singular in their importance. One is just the righteousness
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Speaker 3: and how correct he is, but also not just defending
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Speaker 3: Brett Kavanaugh because he deserved to be offended, but the
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Speaker 3: excoriation of his Senate colleagues that Democrats who did this
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Speaker 3: to him and any Republican who dared to go along
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Speaker 3: with it. God bless this man, God bless his memory.
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Speaker 3: We are a better country because he lived.
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Speaker 2: There's always the word authenticity that's bandied about with politicians.
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Speaker 2: They say that about Trump, whether whatever you think of him,
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Speaker 2: you might look and we've acknowledged it. We know his ego,
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Speaker 2: we get his ego, we get how he wants to
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Speaker 2: put his name on everything, and he les granted literally
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Speaker 2: and figuratively. In fact, Can I just quickly tell you
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Speaker 2: about how discussed it I got with one of my
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Speaker 2: favorite news programs, CBS's Sunday Morning.
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Speaker 5: Oh oh yep, they did.
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Speaker 3: This is usually Mike's Sunday Morning respite, and usually it's
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Speaker 3: a deserving respite from while all the other shows are
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Speaker 3: flog in politics and insulting conservatives, some worse than others.
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Speaker 3: In the tradition of the wonderful Charles Carrol, Jane Pauly
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Speaker 3: still doing it. Was she doing it? She was off
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Speaker 3: political thing, she.
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Speaker 2: Was off, but it wasn't about her. It was about
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Speaker 2: the package that they put together. They mark, let me explain,
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Speaker 2: let me do, And folks who are with us now
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Speaker 2: on the YouTube channel if you want to comment on
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Speaker 2: this live as well. We got a lot of nice people.
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Speaker 2: Harold just wrote, By the way, you know, this is
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Speaker 2: the first time I've ever seen Mike's face. I have
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Speaker 2: to say, I totally agree that there could never be
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Speaker 2: a better looking Nicely Nicely Johnson in Guys and Dolls,
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Speaker 2: one of my favorite characters in any musical. I guess
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Speaker 2: I looked like nicely Nicely, which is rock in the book.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to do that again in the cruise, I
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Speaker 2: think in November. But and so speaking to you speak
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Speaker 2: speaking of well, no quick speaking of theater, uh and
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Speaker 2: my love of the theater nerd that I am. I
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Speaker 2: once played the Cowardly Lion in a production of The
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Speaker 2: Wizard of Oz in South Carolina. Guess who came to
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Speaker 2: see the show. Senator Lindsey Graham came to see the show.
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Speaker 2: He was in the area and he heard about it.
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Speaker 2: I think he brought his sister. I think he brought Darlene,
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Speaker 2: and the two of them came to see me in
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Speaker 2: The Wizard of Oz. I saw him after the show
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Speaker 2: and my fold. You know you should see that outfit
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Speaker 2: they had. Oh yeah, they went all out on that
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Speaker 2: one and I was, and I was a pretty good
20:13
Speaker 2: I've admitted though I were King of the Forest. I
20:17
Speaker 2: had a great time. Anyway, That's my my diversion. But authenticity,
20:21
Speaker 2: that's that was what sena. I will, I will going
20:25
Speaker 2: to Let me get there, Let me get there. Stop
20:29
Speaker 2: trying to drive the ship. Hugh HEWITTT. I got that.
20:31
Speaker 3: I thought you would pull to Mark Davis. Which No,
20:34
Speaker 3: you go down a rabbit hole and forgot get where
20:36
Speaker 3: you never come back.
20:38
Speaker 5: Hewitt.
20:39
Speaker 2: By the way, by the way, Hewitt next week, mister bighead,
20:42
Speaker 2: mister mister TV, mister TV star, I mean all the
20:45
Speaker 2: TV appearances you're doing between Will Kine and News Nation,
20:49
Speaker 2: don't ever let this crap get.
20:50
Speaker 5: To your head.
20:51
Speaker 2: I won't let you. I will not let you become
20:53
Speaker 2: an egomaniac. HEWITTT is coming to town next. We're going
20:56
Speaker 2: to We're going to do an event a week from
20:58
Speaker 2: tomorrow in Sarasota. We're gonna be at this Der Dutchman
21:01
Speaker 2: restaurant and we're gonna have a big talent. We've got
21:03
Speaker 2: like one hundred people signed up already. Hewitt's coming and
21:06
Speaker 2: he and I are going to be like the co hosts.
21:09
Speaker 2: Well he oh, no, he told Carolyn Cassidy, the general manager.
21:12
Speaker 2: You tell Mike I'm in I'm in charge, I'm running
21:15
Speaker 2: the show. I'm the one who's gonna set the agenda
21:18
Speaker 2: and Mike can do what I And Carolyn said, Oh, really,
21:22
Speaker 2: you tell him? She said, this is his home market.
21:26
Speaker 2: He's in the Tampa Bay Arisota area, so that probably
21:29
Speaker 2: isn't good. That's Hugh hewitson. I'm never gonna let you
21:31
Speaker 2: get there, so I don't worry. I won't let that
21:34
Speaker 2: happen to you. But anyway, I digress CBS Sunday one,
21:37
Speaker 2: and I'll leave Moses, I know.
21:40
Speaker 3: And can you give somebody a breather for a moment
21:42
Speaker 3: before we return to Sunday Morning television.
21:44
Speaker 2: Sure? And and I think and I think Hewitt's joking.
21:47
Speaker 2: He better be. He better be joking. Well will will soon?
21:50
Speaker 5: Well I'm out.
21:51
Speaker 2: If he's serious, I'm not gonna let him get a
21:53
Speaker 2: word in edgewise. He'll just sit up there like a mannequin.
21:56
Speaker 1: I will.
21:57
Speaker 2: I'll turn it. I have his mic turned off. I'll
21:59
Speaker 2: have his mic on place anyway. Anyway, CBS Sunday Morning.
22:04
Speaker 2: It's typically like you said, Mark, it's pretty much down
22:06
Speaker 2: the middle. They're the ones that did a big fawning
22:08
Speaker 2: profile on Mike Lindell from my pillow a few years
22:11
Speaker 2: I know, you know, so go figure and they do
22:14
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff with the arch. They do a
22:16
Speaker 2: lot of stuff that I like, music, movies and they
22:20
Speaker 2: do and some of the political stuff they seem to
22:23
Speaker 2: try to have a balance. Check this out. They do
22:27
Speaker 2: this whole feature on Trump's beautification efforts in Washington, d C.
22:34
Speaker 2: And they started and ended with a veteran who's eligible,
22:39
Speaker 2: eligible to be buried at Arlington at Arland Memorial at
22:43
Speaker 2: National Cemetery. The veteran said, and he has apparently sued
22:48
Speaker 2: Trump over the arch that Trump once built this year.
22:53
Speaker 2: That is, and you know DC probably better than I do.
22:56
Speaker 2: Apparently it's sort of the the for all intents and purpose,
23:00
Speaker 2: is the entrance into Arlington.
23:02
Speaker 3: It's go across Memorial Bridge, across a bridge to the state,
23:05
Speaker 3: because the cemetery is in Virginia. Arlington riots. So yes,
23:09
Speaker 3: it's going to be a big, big deal as you
23:11
Speaker 3: approach the cemetery properly.
23:13
Speaker 2: So I love the idea, but well, so there's this
23:16
Speaker 2: veteran he said, how tacky and awful it is he's
23:20
Speaker 2: suing Trump because apparently they're mad that it takes away
23:24
Speaker 2: from the view that people I guess on the bridge
23:28
Speaker 2: or on the other side of the river can see.
23:31
Speaker 2: This guy says, he looks into the camera and he says, now,
23:35
Speaker 2: I'm eligible to be buried at Arlington National Cemetery, but
23:39
Speaker 2: if they go through with this arch, I won't be
23:42
Speaker 2: buried there. I refuse to be buried there. I thought, buddy,
23:47
Speaker 2: you need to go see a psychiatrist or a priest
23:49
Speaker 2: or a pastor, because you're you're goofy who first of all,
23:53
Speaker 2: who cares? All right, then don't get buried there because
23:55
Speaker 2: you think that the arch impedes the view. And then
23:59
Speaker 2: he went on to use that despicable lie about how
24:02
Speaker 2: Trump called people who serve suckers and losersh no, no, no, no, yeh.
24:07
Speaker 2: He said that. And the whole piece was how Trump
24:11
Speaker 2: is effectively I guess, destroying DC because he's beautifying it.
24:16
Speaker 2: They're mad about the reflecting pool, they're mad about the arch.
24:20
Speaker 2: He's done this over here, he's done this over there,
24:23
Speaker 2: and he's always trying to do is make Washington, DC
24:25
Speaker 2: more beautiful, and they're bitching about it. Moaning, this guy
24:28
Speaker 2: won't even get buried in Arlington over it. Aren't these
24:31
Speaker 2: people that nuts beyond perverse? I mean this hallowed ground
24:35
Speaker 2: of Arlington. You listen, you can like or not like Trump,
24:37
Speaker 2: you can like or not like the arch. But if
24:39
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, your your TDS makes you suddenly
24:43
Speaker 2: no longer want your remains there among the hallowed ground
24:48
Speaker 2: of those who have served alongside you, that shows there's
24:51
Speaker 2: just the wrong locomotive pull in the train. That's crazy.
24:54
Speaker 2: That's beyond crazy. Now, now let's let me qualify that
24:58
Speaker 2: a little bit. There have been some memes and some
25:00
Speaker 2: pictures of the White House, and he's done to the
25:05
Speaker 2: White House.
25:06
Speaker 5: Yeah.
25:06
Speaker 2: Now, now, look, taste is taste, right, but the aesthetic
25:11
Speaker 2: of of of the White House seems now to be
25:14
Speaker 2: sort of Las Vegas meets Atlantic City, meaning, yeah, Thai restaurant,
25:23
Speaker 2: that's good.
25:24
Speaker 3: I mean the rold lettering, the red velure.
25:27
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know what.
25:28
Speaker 2: The man likes his gold, doesn't he here? So and
25:33
Speaker 2: so people were posting over the weekend before Lindsey Graham
25:36
Speaker 2: News are showing pictures the you know, the promenade, the
25:40
Speaker 2: walk between the residents and the Oval Office, the Colonnade.
25:45
Speaker 2: That's why I said Colonnade. Well, now he's got all
25:47
Speaker 2: these pictures, gold frame pictures, including Biden with the auto
25:52
Speaker 2: pen and it can I say tacky out loud without
25:57
Speaker 2: getting my head chopped off by it's a little tacky.
26:03
Speaker 2: Let's let's just be real here, I get it. But
26:06
Speaker 2: in terms of the big picture stuff he's doing, making
26:08
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26:11
Speaker 2: other beautification projects, I mean, come on, now, let's before
26:15
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26:17
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28:35
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28:36
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28:40
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28:43
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28:47
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28:49
Speaker 3: But is this is this guy's testimony for real?
28:52
Speaker 4: Though?
28:52
Speaker 3: Because these people will lie. The Trump derangements at TDS
28:56
Speaker 3: also makes honest people dishonest. And this guy's a veteran.
28:59
Speaker 3: I mean I listen back to the blue pro veteran,
29:02
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29:04
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29:08
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29:11
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29:13
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29:16
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29:19
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29:23
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29:26
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29:32
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29:35
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29:45
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29:48
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29:50
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30:07
Speaker 3: better in a lot of different ways. And I was
30:08
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30:10
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30:13
Speaker 3: about what this might mean. And I don't know.
30:16
Speaker 2: I mean maybe some would say it's too soon, but
30:18
Speaker 2: we got to think about these things with Senator Graham. Now,
30:21
Speaker 2: one of his last messages, evidently to President Trump Saturday
30:24
Speaker 2: night when he called him, was the need and the
30:27
Speaker 2: and the confidence to pass the Save America Act, which
30:30
Speaker 2: is all about voter integrity. It's all about proving that
30:34
Speaker 2: you are who you say you are when you cast
30:36
Speaker 2: your ever important ballot. Susan Collins has come across, has
30:40
Speaker 2: come around, She's on board apparently with the Save America Act.
30:44
Speaker 2: Got three guesses why, I think you might question exactly.
30:50
Speaker 8: So.
30:51
Speaker 2: One of the warriors, along with Senator Graham to get
30:54
Speaker 2: the Save America Act passed, has been Utah Senator Mike
30:57
Speaker 2: Lee Uh And he appeared with I think it was
31:00
Speaker 2: Maria Borderomo on Fox News Channel and Fox business Sundays
31:05
Speaker 2: saying that, Hey, you want to honor Lindsey Graham, Let's
31:08
Speaker 2: get the Save America Act passed.
31:10
Speaker 9: Lindsey Graham spent a lot of time with Like me,
31:13
Speaker 9: he had a lot of enthusiasm for this bill, which
31:16
Speaker 9: I introduced in the Senate about two and a half
31:18
Speaker 9: years ago. I believe, Maria that there are multiple paths
31:22
Speaker 9: ahead by which we could pass this. Maybe that involves
31:25
Speaker 9: attaching it to another must pass vehicle. Maybe it involves
31:28
Speaker 9: bringing up on the floor and debating it until it passes,
31:32
Speaker 9: something that I've long advocated. Maybe it involves picking out
31:36
Speaker 9: pieces of it that could be implemented through creative uses
31:39
Speaker 9: of budget reconciliation. I'm not terribly partial to any of
31:43
Speaker 9: these three. I personally prefer this second. I think that
31:46
Speaker 9: would give us our best chance. But I will take
31:49
Speaker 9: any opportunity to debate this, any opportunity to cause it
31:52
Speaker 9: to become law, because the American people deserve it. The
31:55
Speaker 9: American people want it. Voters overwhelmingly support it to the
31:58
Speaker 9: tune of about eighty percent. That's Democrats and Republicans alike.
32:02
Speaker 9: One of the best ways we could honor Lindsay Graham's
32:04
Speaker 9: legacy would be to take this up and pass it
32:07
Speaker 9: this month.
32:09
Speaker 2: Wow, he's right, He's right, man. Call it the Lindsay
32:12
Speaker 2: Graham Act. You know, I mean honor him with that,
32:16
Speaker 2: with that kind of with that kind of because let's
32:19
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about humanity. Let's let's talk about
32:24
Speaker 2: how how we all box put everybody in a box.
32:28
Speaker 2: Like these political figures are cartoon characters or actors in
32:32
Speaker 2: some movie.
32:33
Speaker 5: They're not.
32:34
Speaker 2: These are real, flesh and blood human beings. Even even
32:37
Speaker 2: President Trump to those who despise him, can you imagine
32:41
Speaker 2: how hurt he is over Lindsey Graham's passing. They became very,
32:45
Speaker 2: very good friends. They golfed apparently every other weekend every
32:50
Speaker 2: That's that's a lot of golf for a couple of
32:52
Speaker 2: people to hang out on the golf course. You're spending
32:54
Speaker 2: hours on a Saturday or a Sunday talking I'm sure
32:58
Speaker 2: about the Save America Act, talking about the filibuster, talking issues.
33:02
Speaker 2: I see you laughing, go.
33:03
Speaker 3: Ahead, typical in typical, trumpy in fashion. He was on
33:06
Speaker 3: Fox and Friends this morning. I play I played with
33:09
Speaker 3: Lindsay all the time. He's not the greatest golfer. He
33:11
Speaker 3: is not Jack Nicholas.
33:12
Speaker 5: He's not. It was just like, Oh, I love that.
33:16
Speaker 5: It didn't mean to bog downs, are you No?
33:18
Speaker 2: But people I know who know Trump say he's really
33:20
Speaker 2: devastated by this, not unlike he was when when Charlie
33:24
Speaker 2: Kirk died, when he was killed. Uh So, here was
33:27
Speaker 2: President Trump. I know he was on Fox and Friends,
33:29
Speaker 2: but he shockingly called in to meet the press, which
33:33
Speaker 2: is hardly an unbiased, uh you know, arbiter of all
33:36
Speaker 2: things Washington. Kirsten Welker now is the host. And he
33:40
Speaker 2: called in and here's what he said, and you could
33:42
Speaker 2: hear the sadness and the pain in President Trump's voice.
33:46
Speaker 10: President Trump, thank you for joining us, and my condolence
33:49
Speaker 10: is to you, well.
33:51
Speaker 7: Thank you. He's a tough one to lose. He's it
33:54
Speaker 7: was great. It was unique and every way.
33:57
Speaker 10: Actually he was, mister President. And I know that we
34:01
Speaker 10: are all just absorbing this news.
34:03
Speaker 4: We are all in shock.
34:06
Speaker 10: Can you tell us, mister president, how you receive this
34:09
Speaker 10: news and your immediate gut reaction when you heard it?
34:14
Speaker 7: So what makes it even strangers that I got a
34:17
Speaker 7: call last night sometime and you know, the early evening,
34:21
Speaker 7: maybe in the sevens and he called and he said,
34:25
Speaker 7: we're all set for the Save America Act. He was
34:27
Speaker 7: pushing the Save America Act like crazy. He got back,
34:30
Speaker 7: said he just landed from Ukraine. I said, that's a
34:34
Speaker 7: long trip to that. Case said, he sounded a little tired,
34:37
Speaker 7: but perfect. But it's a little bit tired. I had
34:39
Speaker 7: a right to be. And he was a worker, he
34:42
Speaker 7: was really a worker. But but he sounded great. Actually,
34:46
Speaker 7: but he was.
34:46
Speaker 4: He was.
34:47
Speaker 7: He actually said he was tired, but he wanted to
34:50
Speaker 7: pass the Save America Act. And I said, well, we're
34:53
Speaker 7: going to get it done, Lindsey, we're going to.
34:54
Speaker 4: Get it done.
34:55
Speaker 7: I'll see you like soon. We thought maybe we might
34:57
Speaker 7: even meet today. And then that was it. And that was,
35:01
Speaker 7: you know, very around the time. It couldn't have been
35:04
Speaker 7: much longer. It could have been his last call. I
35:07
Speaker 7: don't know exactly, but I got a message about one
35:10
Speaker 7: o'clock in the morning from one of the people at
35:12
Speaker 7: his office that he had passed away. I said, you
35:15
Speaker 7: got I just can't believe it. He was like a
35:19
Speaker 7: member of the family to me. It's very tough. Actually,
35:22
Speaker 7: it's amazing. He was.
35:24
Speaker 4: He was.
35:25
Speaker 7: He was such an advocate. He was you know, he
35:28
Speaker 7: if he wanted to get something. And you know, he
35:30
Speaker 7: had a unique ability. He was able to deal with
35:33
Speaker 7: democrats and every if I had a problem, a real problem,
35:36
Speaker 7: I wouldn't often ask, but if I had a problem
35:39
Speaker 7: with a Democrat, he could work it out. He was
35:42
Speaker 7: a great He was a great politician.
35:45
Speaker 2: Now, Mark, you know what, first of all, the heartbreaking
35:49
Speaker 2: nature of that, you could hear it in his voice.
35:50
Speaker 2: In fact, when he began the interview, when's the last
35:53
Speaker 2: time you ever heard Donald Trump give a few words
35:56
Speaker 2: of an answer.
35:57
Speaker 3: For exactly something less than two minutes in length, he
36:00
Speaker 3: was just he was clearly.
36:02
Speaker 2: Rocked by this. Yeah, he obviously rattled by it. And
36:05
Speaker 2: I was also thinking about the mechanics of this. Now,
36:08
Speaker 2: you woke up Sunday morning earlier than I did in Dallas.
36:12
Speaker 2: I woke up later than you in Florida. You texted
36:15
Speaker 2: me when you heard the news, but most Americans heard
36:18
Speaker 2: about it when they woke up Sunday morning. Did you
36:20
Speaker 2: hear what he said that? A member of the staff
36:24
Speaker 2: of Lindsey Graham's staff texted me at one o'clock in
36:28
Speaker 2: the morning. How does that work with the leader of
36:31
Speaker 2: the free world, with the most important and famous man
36:36
Speaker 2: on the planet bar Nunn. You text the President of
36:41
Speaker 2: the United States at one in the morning, what do
36:44
Speaker 2: and he's awake?
36:46
Speaker 5: Was he up?
36:46
Speaker 3: Do you think I've got burgers and diet coke?
36:50
Speaker 5: Perhaps? I mean, you don't wake the guy up.
36:52
Speaker 2: You're not gonna text him at one in the morning
36:53
Speaker 2: and say, oh, hey, mister president, I've got some horrible news.
36:57
Speaker 2: So either he was up or maybe the text woke
36:59
Speaker 2: him up. But how do you I wouldn't want to
37:02
Speaker 2: wake the President of the United States up at one
37:04
Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning.
37:05
Speaker 3: I just unless it was with something, you know, he'd
37:07
Speaker 3: want to hear. And watching watching that clip with Kristen
37:11
Speaker 3: Welker and Meet the Press is no friend to conservatives
37:14
Speaker 3: and they But it's interesting. I tape meet I tape
37:18
Speaker 3: all the Sunday shows, so they're on my direct TV DVR. Okay,
37:21
Speaker 3: so there's it's kind of a it's a little eerie.
37:25
Speaker 3: I can do it when I mean, it's still there
37:26
Speaker 3: on my on my hard drive right now. If I
37:29
Speaker 3: go to Sunday's Meet the Press and go bloop, and
37:31
Speaker 3: there it is the guests planned for that morning, and
37:34
Speaker 3: the first guest would have been Lindsey Graham fresh back
37:37
Speaker 3: from Ukraine. Instead they were talking about Lindsey Graham. Christian
37:41
Speaker 3: Welker was was gracious just in between your show and
37:44
Speaker 3: my show and this experience. I listened to Wolf Blitzer
37:48
Speaker 3: a little bit on CNN and again it would say,
37:52
Speaker 3: I hope his memory is a blessing. We had him
37:54
Speaker 3: on the show fifty times and we had a lot
37:57
Speaker 3: of conversations on the air, a lot of conversations off there,
38:00
Speaker 3: always forthright there. There is a graciousness being shown to him.
38:04
Speaker 3: And is it because Lindsay Graham was kind of off
38:07
Speaker 3: and on the Democratic was sometimes on the Democrat side. Yes,
38:11
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know if Ted Cruise or Ran
38:13
Speaker 3: Paul is going to get that kind of graciousness, but
38:15
Speaker 3: they are. They are being gracious rather than try to
38:18
Speaker 3: to pixelate it and hyper analyze that. From Amy Klobachar
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Speaker 3: to did you see the post by Flipping Spartacus by
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Speaker 3: Corey Booker. He makes my teeth itch, This guy makes
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Speaker 3: me crazy. It was about a minute and a half
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Speaker 3: of Corey Booker riffing about about about Lindsey Graham, and
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Speaker 3: it was great talk about how they were able to
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Speaker 3: be convivial with each other and make each other laugh.
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Speaker 3: There are moments funny funny. You should mention that I
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Speaker 3: give you Senator Corey Booker, who hearing it was unscripted,
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Speaker 3: but when he heard the news, uh, he got on
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Speaker 3: his cell phone and made a selfie video. Now remember
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Speaker 3: this is Spartacus, This is a This is a usually
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Speaker 3: angry Democrat who had the following to say about Republican
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Speaker 3: Senator Lindsey Graham's passing.
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Speaker 8: So I go up to Lindsay Graham and I'm a
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Speaker 8: brand new centaer determined to do something about mass incarceration.
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Speaker 8: And I hear through Dick Derbin and others and he's
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Speaker 8: the guy to work with. And I say, mister Graham, sir,
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Speaker 8: I'd like to work with you on criminal justice reform.
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Speaker 8: He seems almost amused by what I said. He goes, Corey,
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Speaker 8: do you understand I'm in a primary right now and
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Speaker 8: I'm running against a guy who is crazy. I can't
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Speaker 8: even so much as talk to you right now. Get
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Speaker 8: out of here, man, Come back to me after my primary.
39:35
Speaker 8: And I laughed and came back to him after the primary,
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Speaker 8: and true to his word, he rolled up his sleeves
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Speaker 8: and we went to work, and thanks to him and
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Speaker 8: Dick Derban and some other Senate heroes, our bill became
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Speaker 8: the First Step Act after years, two presidents, two Congresses,
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Speaker 8: and became the law. One of my favorite moments in
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Speaker 8: that negotiation was, at the last minute, I'm trying to
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Speaker 8: force one more thing into that bill. This has to
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Speaker 8: do with children being put in solitary confinement. And I
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Speaker 8: am going at it with this White House official who
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Speaker 8: says no, hard, no, and we're almost yelling at each other,
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Speaker 8: and then he says, I'm going to get Lindsay Graham
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Speaker 8: on the phone and he will tell you. And so
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Speaker 8: he gets the White House operator to connect Lindsey Graham
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Speaker 8: onto the phone, and Lindsey Graham listens for maybe a
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Speaker 8: hot second, and then interrupts the guy and says, are
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Speaker 8: you kidding me? We need Corey Booker to get this
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Speaker 8: bill done. We can't do it without him. Give him
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Speaker 8: what he wants, and it was in the building. It's
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Speaker 8: now part of the law of the land. One of
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Speaker 8: the White House negotiators during that first negotiation told me
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Speaker 8: that Lindsay Graham was like an unguided missile. That god,
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Speaker 8: you never knew which way he was going to go,
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Speaker 8: whether he would come back and hit you.
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Speaker 5: But when he was.
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Speaker 8: Aligned, when he would be in the right place at
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Speaker 8: the right time, man, he could get things done that
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Speaker 8: other people couldn't and bring a lot of light and
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Speaker 8: new possibilities to the efforts. I am stunned at Lindsey
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Speaker 8: Graham's death, but I pray that he is reunited with
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Speaker 8: his friend John McCain, that they both are experiencing God's love, grace, mercy,
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Speaker 8: and forgiveness.
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Speaker 4: My prayers are.
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Speaker 8: With his family and all those who loved and cherished him.
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Speaker 8: I will miss my perhaps most unexpected friend in the
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Speaker 8: Senate and someone with whom I got some good things done.
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Speaker 11: That's beautiful, you know what that you know we just
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Speaker 11: saw and heard. This is what happens when you strip
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Speaker 11: away trump hatred, when you just be a real person.
41:34
Speaker 11: Just now and listen, Listeners and viewers will say, yeah.
41:37
Speaker 11: His warm memories of Lindsay involved moments when Lindsay collaborated
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Speaker 11: with him to do democrat kind of things. And I know,
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Speaker 11: I know, I know, I know, I know, but that
41:45
Speaker 11: is graciousness, it's decency, it's basic civility, and it was
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Speaker 11: just so. It was so very, very nice, and it's.
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Speaker 2: In short supply you keep hearing the old adage about
41:55
Speaker 2: Tip O'Neil and Ronald Reagan. That's what that was a
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Speaker 2: throwback to. That was like, we fight like cats and
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Speaker 2: dogs during the day, but we don't hate each other
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Speaker 2: because of our opinions or our beliefs or our ideology.
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Speaker 2: I want to close on a very different note. Let's
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Speaker 2: end with tell me you've seen the video of the
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Speaker 2: bison at Yellowstone National Park?
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Speaker 3: Well, I have are you going? Are you okay? Is
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Speaker 3: this guy okay?
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Speaker 5: Broken bones? But yeah, he didn't die.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, how are you going to suppress your laughter?
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Speaker 2: I don't find it funny you found it funny that
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Speaker 2: poor guy gets flung into the airton. I saw myself
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Speaker 2: up there like a dummy getting hit by a bike.
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Speaker 2: And did you see the bison chasing the guy around
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Speaker 2: the clump of trees like a road like the buns
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Speaker 2: Bunny road Runner cat cartoon.
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Speaker 5: I know, I can't suppress my laughter.
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Speaker 1: Holy cow.
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Speaker 2: And people were mad at him because they said he
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Speaker 2: got too close to the bison. Well, well, the hell
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Speaker 2: do you think of bison's going to attack.
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Speaker 3: You for I don't but you know, I can guarantee
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Speaker 3: you this will never happen to me because I'm not
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Speaker 3: going to be stupid enough to try to get close
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Speaker 3: up FaceTime with a bison. All that I've been said,
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Speaker 3: for those who are watching, how you react to this
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Speaker 3: is a measure of what kind of person you are.
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Speaker 3: I did not score.
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Speaker 5: Well, you did laugh out loud. I didn't find it.
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Speaker 3: It's funny until I heard that there were some No,
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Speaker 3: he's gonna throw him eight feet in the air, and
43:29
Speaker 3: maybe it's probably Tom Berger on America's Funniest Videos syndrome.
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Speaker 3: But no, obviously want nothing but healing for this guy,
43:36
Speaker 3: and don't mess with a bison.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, well do it. Check it out online because
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Speaker 2: it is quite the video. Of course, they've been playing
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Speaker 2: it all over the news. You can take the camera
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Speaker 2: off me when you do. I just, I just I
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Speaker 2: may have to step away.
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Speaker 5: I'm kidding.
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Speaker 3: I'm kidding.
43:49
Speaker 2: I bet I'm a better person than you are. That's
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Speaker 2: all over to it. I mean, I don't find a
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Speaker 2: poor senior citizens play.
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Speaker 5: Your citizen too correct.
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Speaker 2: There you go, that's good. Make fun of the old guy,
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Speaker 2: make with the white with with a long white beard.
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Speaker 2: That's the best part, the long white beard flying through
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Speaker 2: the air like like tinker Bell. I mean, the poor
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Speaker 2: guy got boom that bison. Whatever he did to that
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Speaker 2: bison didn't go over well with the bison. And you know,
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Speaker 2: we went to we went to Montana for Christmas and
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Speaker 2: Yellowstone and all that, the kids and I we had
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Speaker 2: and we saw some bison, but would have never dawned.
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Speaker 2: I mean to get out of the car and go
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Speaker 2: and walk next to one. Okay, shame on you, Mark,
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Speaker 2: for shame. Oh there it is. There's the video. You
44:32
Speaker 2: has been founded if you're just joining now, look at him.
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Speaker 5: Look at him. He's running around like boom.
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Speaker 2: Oh good lord, that's awful. Poor and had suffered broken bones, Mark,
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Speaker 2: mister giggler and many of.
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Speaker 5: His that's terrible. That's awful. Well.
44:55
Speaker 3: I hope he's good.
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Speaker 2: I hope he recovers and we all learned a lesson.
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Speaker 2: Hope learn a less lesson learned. Avoid bison at all costs.
45:03
Speaker 2: I love you. Happy Monday. Our family are our prayers
45:07
Speaker 2: for God's comfort and healing for Lindsay's family, his beloved sister,
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Speaker 2: his friends, his staff. We talked to Kevin Bishop today,
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Speaker 2: who had been a loyal chief of staff of his
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Speaker 2: for many many years.
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Speaker 3: And you did such an amazing job on the radio
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Speaker 3: today talking to and Drew what's Drew's last name? What
45:23
Speaker 3: happens now? But they are going to have if we
45:26
Speaker 3: got a minute.
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Speaker 5: Sure.
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Speaker 3: First of all, people say American elections last too long,
45:31
Speaker 3: and they're right. People say this, that and the other.
45:33
Speaker 3: We had a runoff in Texas where we have the
45:35
Speaker 3: like the Paxton Corning thing, we have the election March third.
45:39
Speaker 3: The runoff was May twenty sixth, that's like what what?
45:43
Speaker 3: In South Carolina, the filing period is like the twenty
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Speaker 3: first to the twenty eighth. The primary, the actual primary
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Speaker 3: to replace Lindsay is August eleventh, with a runoff if
45:52
Speaker 3: they need one August twenty fifth.
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Speaker 5: Bam, bam bam.
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Speaker 3: What did you call it? The firehouse primary? I mean yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, by the way, ps, if South
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Speaker 2: Carolina can do that, why can't Maine do it?
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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you very much. So we're going to
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Speaker 3: see how that all goes tomorrow. Let's spend some time
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Speaker 3: on listen. We're all doing this middle of the day Nuonish,
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Speaker 3: you know, one Ish Eastern Nuonish Central in real time.
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Speaker 3: By the end of today, Governor McMaster, are we have
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Speaker 3: we seen enough reports that indicate that he's going to
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Speaker 3: name Darlene, Lindsay's sister as the interim person sources.
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Speaker 2: Sources are telling Fox News that's where he's leaning.
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Speaker 5: But I don't know that. Who knows if he's made
46:29
Speaker 5: the decision yet.
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Speaker 3: But we think it's lovely. I think it's lovely, and I
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Speaker 3: also think it's good and proper. You talked about this
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Speaker 3: with Drew that it not be somebody who's actually interested
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Speaker 3: in long term because that will be an unfair leg
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Speaker 3: up to somebody who's going to be in the actual
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Speaker 3: fray there in that accelerated primary process.
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Speaker 2: But it'll be it'll be a placeholder, in other words,
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Speaker 2: it'll like it, which.
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Speaker 3: Is exactly the right thing.
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Speaker 5: Today.
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Speaker 2: Then all right, I love you, Happy Monday. Let's do
46:54
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