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- 0:00So why do you feel sorry for your narcissistic partner?
- 0:04Why do you feel bad for them sometimes?
- 0:06Like even after they do something horrible to you, even
- 0:09after they've done something horrible to you, done something
- 0:12bad to you, lied to you, cheated on you, beat on you.
- 0:15Why is it that you feel bad for them?
- 0:19That's what we're talking about today, y'all?
- 0:21Of course, if you do hear, my name is Lee Hammock.
- 0:23I'm a diagnosed narcissist here to give you an inside look at
- 0:25the mind of a narcissist. And welcome to another episode
- 0:27of The Narcissist Code. Welcome back y'all, welcome
- 0:47back, welcome back. Yes, 9 episodes have been
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- 1:01But yes feeling sorry or feeling bad for a narcissist happens all
- 1:07the time y'all. I think we can all agree on it.
- 1:09I think most people who have been in a relationship with a
- 1:12narcissist would consider. Not most people.
- 1:14A lot of people who have been in a relationship with a narcissist
- 1:17would consider themselves an empath or at least highly
- 1:21empathetic, right? You consider yourself highly
- 1:23empathetic. You might be an empath, whatever
- 1:26the case may be, but you, you have a deep emotional
- 1:29connection, right? You have a deep capacity for
- 1:32empathy, right? So you get with this
- 1:34narcissistic person and sometimes you feel bad for them.
- 1:40That's just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.
- 1:42Y'all, your empathy is a gift. It's a blessing, but big old
- 1:48butt, right? When you're dealing with a
- 1:49narcissistic person, your empathy can absolutely be
- 1:53weaponized against you. It's just one of those things
- 1:55that that can happen on a consistent basis, like because
- 1:58you care so much about this person, because you know this
- 2:02person's past, you might actually start to feel bad for
- 2:05them. You know, I still do my one on
- 2:07ones over Zoom. Y'all?
- 2:08You can find all of that at mentalillness.net, right?
- 2:12But when I'm talking to so many, when I'm talking to people,
- 2:15they'll ask me and it's like, Lee, why do I feel bad for this
- 2:19person? Why they they've done horrible
- 2:21things to me. Why do I still feel bad for
- 2:23them? Because one reason is because
- 2:25you know their past, right? Or you think you know their
- 2:29past. A lot of times when you're in a
- 2:31relationship with a narcissistic person, you do know their past.
- 2:35They trauma dump on you. They share the horrible stuff
- 2:39that has happened to them in the past.
- 2:40Like you also probably have met their parents, right?
- 2:45So you met their parents, you know their upbringing, you know
- 2:48who they you know who they were around when they were growing
- 2:52up. You know, all of this.
- 2:53This is not like this is not anything new to you already know
- 2:57this. You see this person, you know
- 2:58who they are like you know their mom is a horrible person.
- 3:01You see that their dad is a is abusive or an alcoholic or a
- 3:06drug addict. Older mom could be right, or
- 3:08their grandparents, whoever their grandparents, their
- 3:10parents were not around. They were raised by their
- 3:11grandparents. Whatever the case may be, you
- 3:13know that they had an abusive childhood, you know, so in
- 3:17essence, you do feel bad for them because you know what
- 3:20they've been through, you know their childhood, you know their
- 3:23life story and whatnot. And a lot of times that keeps
- 3:26people bonded, that keeps people stuck, that keeps people feeling
- 3:29sorry for the narcissistic person.
- 3:32You know, I see, I think a lot of times in these spaces right
- 3:36here is this is what goes on. This is what absolutely
- 3:40happened. So many people get stuck, so
- 3:42many people get caught, but you feel bad because you know their
- 3:47past and you have empathy, you have compassion.
- 3:50You might sometimes still see them as a little kid.
- 3:54Sometimes you, you, even though you're dealing with an adult,
- 3:57right? A clear adult.
- 3:58They might be in their 40s, fifties, 60s, sometimes in these
- 4:0070s or the 80s, right? They might be old, an older
- 4:03person, right? You still can see them as a kid
- 4:07because you, you know that they're abusive.
- 4:09They're abusive upbringing, so you see them as a kid even when
- 4:13they're doing horrible things to you.
- 4:15Like I had talked to a woman one time.
- 4:17She was she was on the Zoom call almost crying because of the
- 4:21childhood that her partner had experienced.
- 4:23Even though he was in jail for beating on her.
- 4:26She's like he did. I just feel so bad for because
- 4:28his childhood and he just can't help it and that's why he lashes
- 4:31out. His mom was abusive, his dad was
- 4:32abusive. So he's been abusive to all his
- 4:35women in his life. I was like, I understand you
- 4:39feeling bad but what about you? You know what I mean?
- 4:46What? What about what about you here?
- 4:48Are you not allowed to feel bad for yourself?
- 4:50You see what I'm saying? It's OK to feel bad for that
- 4:53person sometimes but don't let that be used against you because
- 4:57another time, another reason so many people feel sorry for
- 5:00narcissist is because they they convince you to feel sorry for
- 5:03them. They like narcissist, including
- 5:06myself back in the past, or can be experts at playing the
- 5:10victim. We absolutely can.
- 5:13We can be an expert at playing the victim to a lot of different
- 5:17situations, even the situations or the scenarios that we
- 5:20ourselves create. We have created these scenarios.
- 5:23We have created these situations and we or somehow also
- 5:27simultaneously the victims, we make you feel bad for us by by
- 5:33by telling you, by playing the victim.
- 5:34I don't know what to do. Like I, I don't my, my past is
- 5:39this like you should feel bad for me.
- 5:41Like what about me? I'm the victim here.
- 5:43Even after they do something horrible to you.
- 5:45I know I cheated on you and I lie.
- 5:47I cheated on you, not lied or whatever, right?
- 5:49I got a baby on the way by somebody else, but you're going
- 5:52to leave me and blow up my life, Blow up our kids lives?
- 5:55You're going to really uproot our whole family for one cheat?
- 5:59They got a bigot, They had a baby on the way.
- 6:01One little cheat. Well, not one cheat, of course.
- 6:04Like multiple cheats with one person.
- 6:07It's only been one person though, right?
- 6:09It's not like multiple people is with one cheat with one,
- 6:12multiple cheats with one person. You'll leave me?
- 6:15Wow, You must really not care about me.
- 6:21And does they work on some people?
- 6:22Yeah, it does work, right? It does.
- 6:24Because they start crying. You haven't seen.
- 6:25You haven't seen. You haven't ever seen them get
- 6:28this emotional before. So now they're crying in front
- 6:31of you. And now you feel bad for them,
- 6:33right? This is.
- 6:34Yeah. This is what happens sometimes.
- 6:35Like they're crying, they're playing the victim.
- 6:38They do this stuff. It's like an art.
- 6:41It's like an art. They it's like an the art of
- 6:44playing the victim. Finding some way in this
- 6:47situation to victimize myself is a narcissistic art.
- 6:52It is, it really is a narcissistic art.
- 6:56It's artwork. It's like I'm Vincent van Gogh
- 6:59of, of, of victim. I'm the Vincent Vincent van Gogh
- 7:03of victimhood. Like I find a way to play the
- 7:06victim because if I can play the victim, I can make you feel bad
- 7:09or I can make you feel guilty. You know what I mean?
- 7:12That's how it works sometimes. And another reason why so many
- 7:16people feel sorry for narcissists is because you you
- 7:19don't want, you don't feel, you feel like a bad person because
- 7:21you're abandoning them, right? When you get ready to leave them
- 7:23or something like that, you start feeling bad, like you're a
- 7:27bad person. You're like, well, I'm a bad
- 7:29person. They I know they have an
- 7:30abandonment wound. Like they got abandoned so many
- 7:33times. And they said that they're,
- 7:34yeah, narcissists could absolutely be lying about their
- 7:37past, right? I hope you all understand that
- 7:39that's, this is a sidebar over here.
- 7:40Sidebar. Come over here.
- 7:42They could be lying about their past.
- 7:44Y'all, not every single narcissist or person is going to
- 7:46tell you the truth about their past.
- 7:48So somebody so so some of these traumas that they told you that
- 7:51they that they've been through or experienced, they're lying.
- 7:54It never happened to them. They might be just mirroring
- 7:58your story or telling you somebody else's story that they
- 8:00know. They could be lying their asses
- 8:02off about their childhood experiences, right?
- 8:05OK, sidebar over If I, if I feel like we're in a courtroom, the
- 8:08courtroom of narcissism, right? Sidebar, come over judge, can we
- 8:11approach, approach over here? They planned the victim.
- 8:14You know what I'm saying? They can be lying about their
- 8:15story, but you know that they you think that they have
- 8:19abandonment wounds, right? You think that they've been
- 8:21abandoned by a previous exes or people have left them for no
- 8:25reason for, you know, you know what I mean.
- 8:28People have left them and you don't want to also perpetuate
- 8:32this and keep this cycle going on in their in their lives, even
- 8:36though they've done something horrible to you, even though
- 8:38they've treated you horribly. You see how that works right
- 8:41there? This is a thing that so many
- 8:43people are going to experience when you're dealing with a
- 8:46highly narcissistic, abusive person.
- 8:49They're going to keep doing this type of stuff because it works.
- 8:52If I can find a way to play the victim in these circumstances,
- 8:56then I'm going to keep. I'm going to keep finding a way
- 9:00to play the victim, right. I'm going to keep finding a way
- 9:05to do this. I'm going to keep.
- 9:07I'm going to make you feel bad for me.
- 9:09I'm going to do all of these things, y'all, because the worse
- 9:13you feel for me, the better I feel, the worse you feel for me,
- 9:17the better off in my mind that I am.
- 9:20You know what I mean? Like, I know I think that I'm
- 9:23good. I because you feel bad for me.
- 9:26I'm going to keep perpetuating this stereotype.
- 9:28I'm going to keep doing this stuff over and over and over
- 9:31again because it works for me and I'm all about me.
- 9:36Like let me put my narcissist's head on, right?
- 9:38I put my narcissist's head on. I'm all about me, right?
- 9:42If I can convince you to feel bad for me, I'm in control of
- 9:46you. You'll never leave me because I
- 9:49can always make you feel bad. Wow.
- 9:52You said you would never leave. You said you'd be my ride or
- 9:54die. You said this would never end.
- 9:56You said you would marry me. You said this even after I've
- 9:59done all of this stuff. If it keeps working, why
- 10:02wouldn't I do it? You know, especially the
- 10:04religion. Like this, not this.
- 10:06I was going to take you to a sidebar, but I'm not even go to
- 10:08the sidebar because a lot of people need to hear this.
- 10:10They will absolutely use your religion to make you feel bad.
- 10:14They will convince you that God is somewhere in the Bible, that
- 10:17God said I can beat your ass, I can cheat on you, I can steal
- 10:21from you and you can't leave me or you a horrible person.
- 10:24So you feel bad. The religious guilt is a real
- 10:27thing. They can.
- 10:28Spiritual abuse is a real thing. You going to tell the church I
- 10:31cheated on you? You can give me excommunicated.
- 10:33You can tell everybody you tell on me.
- 10:37Wow, you're going to give me excommunicator, you're going to
- 10:39ruin my life. You're going to ruin my life.
- 10:41You see, and that works. They're going to do whatever it
- 10:45takes to make you to to afford to work.
- 10:48You know, you're going to break up our family.
- 10:50You're going to two parent households are better.
- 10:53Two parent households are not better.
- 10:55If it's an abusive household, what sense does that make?
- 10:57You know what I'm saying? How the hell does a two parent
- 10:59household the better if it if it's abusive, We got we got to
- 11:05make make that make sense right there.
- 11:06I was so many people like single moms, single dads, terrible
- 11:10people. It's better than being in an
- 11:12abusive household, getting your ass beat up or cheated on or
- 11:15damn, they're unalive because consistently like what the hell
- 11:19is wrong with people out there? I absolutely hate these out here
- 11:21to be spreading that shit. I was like I'll get on my damn
- 11:24nerves like damn, like just blaming people for being single
- 11:28parents when what are other parent at?
- 11:31You know what I'm saying? Where's the other parent?
- 11:33Would, you know, shut the fuck up?
- 11:34Where's the other parents? Not making excuses for deadbeats
- 11:36that shouldn't be blowing my mind, Goose Fraba.
- 11:45Seriously man, they will try to make you feel bad because it
- 11:50works for them. The more the worse I can make
- 11:53you feel, the better I feel. The more in control I am, the
- 11:56better off things go. You know, I mean, and I'm going
- 12:00to keep doing it over and over and over again repeatedly.
- 12:03That's the way my mind works and that's what I'm going to keep
- 12:05doing because I think I'm entitled to doing that.
- 12:09You just say, hey, hey, hey, it's just something to think
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