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Mac & Bone Show - Zach Gelb Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right. Let's bring in our next guest, too.
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  Speaker 2: We love his energy and we love his passion as well.
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  Speaker 1: Just a lovable guy in general.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Text line. He is Zach Gelb of Compass Media. And
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  Speaker 2: he joins us here on the Mac and Bone show,
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  Speaker 2: as he does every Friday. Galby, how are you feeling
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  Speaker 2: this week?
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing great. Can we start off before we talk
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  Speaker 3: about the Panthers with a positive local football story?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, please.
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  Speaker 3: Can we do that?
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  Speaker 4: Is this your friend of Wade Norman again?
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  Speaker 3: Conference champion.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: He did Caden craft going to Tennessee doc Caldwell, really
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  Speaker 3: good wide receiver. And they're on a buy before state playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: So congratulations to them. And obviously coach Lasker has got
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  Speaker 3: him coached well up front of the trenches.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: That's good.
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  Speaker 4: So one of my favorite high school teams go, they
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  Speaker 4: got three or four. I root for them.
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  Speaker 1: Any high school.
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  Speaker 3: They beat the snot out of Mooresville.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I am. Yeah, they got us. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I thought Mooresville was your squad, Bone. Oh, it depends
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  Speaker 2: who wins. I've also got Huff, and I've got my
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  Speaker 2: own school that I went to. This man's even got
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  Speaker 2: four high school teams.
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  Speaker 4: Shameless.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, like the, the Panthers and like Norman's like the
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  Speaker 3: Broncos pretty much.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, no.
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  Speaker 2: So, so Galby, can I read into that? Can I
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  Speaker 2: read into that, that you think the Panthers are in
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  Speaker 2: trouble this week?
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  Speaker 3: Actually all kidding aside, I think they have a shot
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  Speaker 3: to win the game because we all know the Denver's
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  Speaker 3: defense is phenomenal. It's a really good test for Bryce
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  Speaker 3: young to kind of show that he's worth the franchise
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  Speaker 3: quarterback money. That's going to get thrown his way. But
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  Speaker 3: I feel a little bit optimistic, even though, because the
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  Speaker 3: Panthers defense is not good, but the Broncos offense, they
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  Speaker 3: got some issues as well. So I'm not going to
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  Speaker 3: go into the game saying, Hey, I expect the Carolina
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  Speaker 3: Panthers to win. But at home, I do kind of
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  Speaker 3: think it's a game that they can get if they
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  Speaker 3: can find a way to win this, like 23, 20, 23, 17.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're with you on that. I picked us.
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  Speaker 2: I picked the Panthers to win 17, 16. I just
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  Speaker 2: think it's going to be, it's going to be ugly Gelby,
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  Speaker 2: but the bar, you know, the Broncos run game is
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  Speaker 2: nothing special. Panthers have actually, believe it or not done
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  Speaker 2: well against these bottom, you know, run games. It's been,
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  Speaker 2: it's been the good ones that have obliterated us. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, like, what do you think? What do
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  Speaker 2: you think about Bo Nix Gelby?
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  Speaker 1: What do you like? I know he's turned it up
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  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 2: Of these games and they've kind of had some magic
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  Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, but, but he's not getting the
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  Speaker 2: ball downfield a lot. I could regret this, but I
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  Speaker 2: don't fear that he's going to take advantage of our
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  Speaker 2: corner situation like Jordan Love did, for example.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's an average quarterback. Do I ever
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  Speaker 3: think I'm going to view Bo Nix as a legitimate
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  Speaker 3: top 10 quarterback in this league? No, but if you
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  Speaker 3: pair him with the right defense and the right head coach,
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  Speaker 3: they could find a way to make, make a deep
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  Speaker 3: playoff run like last year. So for him, it's about
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  Speaker 3: limiting the turnovers. And, you know, we saw him at Auburn.
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  Speaker 3: He was got awful. Then at Oregon, he turned his
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  Speaker 3: career around. I didn't think he was going to be
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  Speaker 3: a top 15 pick in the draft. And he was,
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  Speaker 3: and he's had a solid start to his career. I
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  Speaker 3: just don't think that's a guy that I look at
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  Speaker 3: and I go, Oh, that's an elite or that's a
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  Speaker 3: great quarterback. He has some games where he does look
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  Speaker 3: like a great quarterback and, But I think at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the season, you kind of walk away with
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  Speaker 3: Bo Nix, and you're like, okay, he's average, above average,
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  Speaker 3: like middle of the pack, probably like 15th best quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: In football, I would say. I just bit my tongue.
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  Speaker 4: Can you ask Gelb the next question real quick?
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  Speaker 2: You got that list going over there right now. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how else to do this, Gelb. I bit my–
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  Speaker 2: that hurts. I bit my tongue. He got that tongue
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  Speaker 2: swollen over there.
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  Speaker 4: What are you worried about? Just ask the question.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: So, Galby, I'll ask you the question. There's a couple of, like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It seems like goofy sources. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: seem very legit. But, like, there are people bringing up Jacksonville,
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  Speaker 2: interest in trading for Derrick Brown, and, like, the Giants
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  Speaker 2: wanting to trade for Derrick Brown. If you were the Panthers,
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  Speaker 2: would you trade Derrick Brown? Panther fans want to be
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  Speaker 2: buyers and try to win the division. Would you want
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  Speaker 2: to trade Derrick Brown?
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  Speaker 3: I think that would send the message that you're punting
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  Speaker 3: on the season. I know what people are going to
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  Speaker 3: say on the, on the retort. Well, they could get
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  Speaker 3: rid of him and still find the way to win
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  Speaker 3: this division because the division is that bad. But I
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  Speaker 3: kind of view him as a cornerstone piece to this
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  Speaker 3: franchise moving forward. So I don't understand why you would
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  Speaker 3: trade him unless if they know something that we don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But I would, I would be like, you'd have to
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  Speaker 3: get a premium draft pick for him. And And I
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  Speaker 3: would imagine there's going to be interest in him around
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  Speaker 3: the league, but it hasn't even crossed my mind with
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  Speaker 3: all the names speculated. The Panthers would be interested in
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  Speaker 3: parting ways with him.
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  Speaker 2: Like Dave Canales bone just had this, like this impassioned
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  Speaker 2: answer to a question and a presser. Like, what did
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  Speaker 2: you tell Todd? Wash you went from the defense and Gelby.
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  Speaker 2: He said, stop the run.
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  Speaker 1: Like, that's it. Like, stop the run. If you want
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  Speaker 1: to stop the run and.
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  Speaker 2: You're trying to win a division, why on earth are
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  Speaker 2: you trading Derek Brown of all people? Like, it just,
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  Speaker 2: it seems ridiculous to me.
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  Speaker 4: I'm okay now, boys.
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  Speaker 1: Don't worry about me.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for all those that reached out here about my
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  Speaker 2: current situation. A report this week came out, Gail, from
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  Speaker 2: Mike Florio, that the Panthers were closing in on a
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  Speaker 2: new deal for Bryce Young in the $ 50 million per
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  Speaker 2: year range. What are your thoughts on that report from Florio?
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  Speaker 3: And he's probably not worth $ 55 million. Let's just say,
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  Speaker 3: but that's the going rate for what good quarterbacks get
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  Speaker 3: in this league. So could there be some regret three,
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  Speaker 3: four years from now? Sure. But it's like, if the
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  Speaker 3: Panthers say they're not going to pay Bryce young, then
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  Speaker 3: who are they going to go get? And like, that's like,
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  Speaker 3: they're not going to be high enough in the draft. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: even if a quarterback becomes available via trade, you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: have to give up a lot of draft capital to
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  Speaker 3: have a guy that has turned his career around and
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  Speaker 3: it's moving in the right direction.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't feel comfortable, uh, you know, giving 55, you know,
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  Speaker 3: 50 plus million dollars to him, but you kind of
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  Speaker 3: have to, right?
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  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think you said it like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: regret down the road, like we'll see. But when you're
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  Speaker 2: out there and you insert yourself back into that, the
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  Speaker 2: quarterback needy waters, that ain't no fun place to be, man.
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  Speaker 2: And like we had texters the other day that were saying, oh,
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  Speaker 2: go get Trinidad Chambliss or go get this guy and
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  Speaker 2: that guy in the draft. Like there is no guarantee
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  Speaker 2: Bryce would take a number one overall. We see first
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  Speaker 2: round quarterbacks, Gelby, on the regular. not amount to anything.
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  Speaker 2: Like look at Anthony Richardson and Levis from Bryce's draft class.
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  Speaker 2: Like I just, I don't understand why some fans are
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  Speaker 2: so quick to want to go into that quarterback market again.
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  Speaker 3: And I said this a month ago and it's been
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  Speaker 3: proven true every week, this greatest quarterback draft class that
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  Speaker 3: we were told about for 20, 27 and not looking
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  Speaker 3: that great, like arch Manning, probably going to go back
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  Speaker 3: another year in college, Dante Moore now out for the season.
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  Speaker 3: And he wasn't playing well, even before that ridiculous hit
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  Speaker 3: by a USC, like probably the three best quarterbacks in
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  Speaker 3: this draft class right now are Darian Mensah, CJ Carr.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see how we feel about that after, after Saturday night.
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  Speaker 3: And then also drew mess the maker. So, and the
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  Speaker 3: Panthers are not going to be in position to, to
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  Speaker 3: probably go get one of those quarterbacks early in this draft.
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  Speaker 3: Cause they probably should be able to get eight wins
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  Speaker 3: this year or nine wins and win the NFC South.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't understand why Panthers fans would, would say, okay,
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  Speaker 3: get rid of Bryce young. And then you're not in
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  Speaker 3: position to get a quarterback in a first round. So
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  Speaker 3: then you have to like get a guy in the
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  Speaker 3: second round. And like Trinidad Chambliss is an excellent college player.
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  Speaker 3: How many times have we seen guys be excellent college
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  Speaker 3: players and they don't amount to anything in the NFL?
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  Speaker 3: Like when I watch Trinidad Chambliss, I think he's a
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  Speaker 3: great college quarterback. I don't sit there and go, okay,
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  Speaker 3: that's a guy that's definitely going to win, you know,
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  Speaker 3: win games and be a star quarterback in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He'll be on the college front Miami, Notre Dame this weekend,
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  Speaker 2: obviously a different feel without Tony for the U, but
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  Speaker 2: what are you thinking about this matchup and.
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  Speaker 4: How it might play out? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm curious to see the Notre Dame defense up against
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  Speaker 3: the Miami offense, even without Tony, you got Fletcher, you
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  Speaker 3: got bar Kate Mensah was my pick before the year
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  Speaker 3: to win the Heisman trophy. And if he wins this
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  Speaker 3: game on Saturday night, I think that could really give
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  Speaker 3: him a leg up to go win the Heisman with
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  Speaker 3: Ohio state. kind of falling back the last few weeks,
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  Speaker 3: even though Jeremiah Smith's the best player in the country.
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  Speaker 3: And now Tony going down with that injury, I think
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  Speaker 3: this is going to be a close game, but with
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  Speaker 3: the Tony injury, I would have probably said Miami before
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  Speaker 3: the Tony injury, but now with the injury, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to give the edge to Notre Dame. I think the
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  Speaker 3: spread's like up to like six and a half or
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  Speaker 3: something like that. it probably you lay the points and,
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  Speaker 3: and probably think it's like 23, you know, 16 or
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  Speaker 3: something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that. I could definitely see that.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Galby, you are the man, brother.
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  Speaker 1: You rock.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate you. You get, you said there's a chance. That's
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  Speaker 2: all I can ask. I'll be, you gave the Panthers
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  Speaker 2: a chance, baby.
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  Speaker 1: I'll take it. Well, like, like put.
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  Speaker 3: It this way, who would have thought this team last
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  Speaker 3: year would have gone on the road to green Bay
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  Speaker 3: and defeated the Packers. I get it. This game that
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  Speaker 3: in Carolina, but it's just like, Most of the national
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  Speaker 3: narrative is going to be, oh, yeah, the Panthers have
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  Speaker 3: no shot. I'm just not willing to say they have
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  Speaker 3: no shot. I'd probably say they lose, but no shot,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: We'll take it, baby. Hell, we beat the Rams at
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  Speaker 2: home last year, too, when no one thought we were
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  Speaker 2: going to win.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Gelby, have a great— You probably should have
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  Speaker 1: beat them in the playoffs as well. I know, man.
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  Speaker 1: I know. So damn close. All right, Gelby, thank you, brother.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate it, man. Have a good weekend. You got it, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Be well.