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Missing Mom Suzanne Morphew: No body, no case? 'NO WAY!' Hubby just charged. · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Mother's Day. One year ago, a gorgeous young mom of
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Speaker 1: two girls goes missing. Now, almost one year to the
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Speaker 1: date Mother's Day weekend coming up, there is an arrest
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Speaker 1: for murder in the case of missing mom Susanne Morphew.
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Speaker 1: Today make marks a major milestone in this investigation by
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Speaker 1: Susanne Morphew's disappearance. We're announcing that at zero nine fifteen
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Speaker 1: hours this morning, the chaffe County Sheriff's Office arrested Susanne
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Speaker 1: Morphy's husband, Burne Morphu. He was taken into custy near
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Speaker 1: his home in Podga Springs. He was alone at the
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Speaker 1: time of his arrest and he was arrested without incident.
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Speaker 1: There is video taken of him being pulled over in
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Speaker 1: a white truck and it is all over the internet.
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Speaker 1: Just then you were hearing the Chaffee County Shriff speaking.
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Speaker 1: But now take a listen to and Rhio Sloan Dickeye
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Speaker 1: at ABC did verse seven investigators executed nearly two hundred
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Speaker 1: search warrants and received more than fourteen hundred tips about
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Speaker 1: Susanne Morphey's disappearance over the past year, and today finally
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Speaker 1: an arrest Susanne was reported missing on Mother's Day last year.
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Speaker 1: She went for a bike ride, never came back, and
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Speaker 1: even though we now know there has been an arrest,
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Speaker 1: still the local county shares playing it very close to
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Speaker 1: the vast We can hardly find out anything else. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to Jay Gray NBC. For the better part
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Speaker 1: of a year, they've been searching, and while they won't
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Speaker 1: provide any details, we do have information that led us
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Speaker 1: to this point today and how we think a certain
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Speaker 1: scenario had occurred tonight. Officials say they know why Susanne
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Speaker 1: Morphew never made it home from a twenty twenty Mothers
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Speaker 1: Day bike ride and who they believe is responsible for
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Speaker 1: her disappearance. Well, that's loud and clear in the arrest
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Speaker 1: of husband Barry Mooreph You're joining me an all star
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Speaker 1: panel to make sense of what we know now and
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Speaker 1: decipher the details who are being given. Tyson Draper on
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Speaker 1: the case at the very beginning. He is with the
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Speaker 1: Draper Brothers YouTube channel. He recorded Barry Morphew at the
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Speaker 1: location where Suzanne's bike was found. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor,
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Speaker 1: author of Red Flags, host of Today with Wendy on KCBQ,
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Speaker 1: and you can find her at Wendy Patrick PhD dot com.
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Speaker 1: We're noown psychiatrists joining us out of the Atlanta jurisdiction.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Angela Arnold at doctor at Angela Arnold MD dot com.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, director of the Coldcase Research Institute at Coldcasecrimes
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Speaker 1: dot org and now starting in a new podcast, Choir Practice,
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Speaker 1: and believe me, it has got nothing to do with Church.
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Speaker 1: Hym's Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath
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Speaker 1: My Feet on Amazon, and star of a brand new
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Speaker 1: series on the Tree Crime Network, Poisonous Liaisons Joseph Scott Morgan.
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Speaker 1: But first to Fox twenty one News reporter Lauren Sharff
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Speaker 1: at Lauren Sharf TV, at Lauren Sharf dot com and
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Speaker 1: at Fox twenty one News dot com. You can find
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Speaker 1: a huge article she has just posted where she interviewed
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Speaker 1: Suzanne's sister, Lauren Sharff. Let's first of all, start with
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Speaker 1: what we learned and what we didn't learn at the
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Speaker 1: press conference. Big bombshell, there's nobody. Yeah, they said that
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Speaker 1: Susanne has not been recovered and they continue to search,
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Speaker 1: and they said that it is an open investigation. Nancy.
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Speaker 1: They also said that they haven't made any other arrest,
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Speaker 1: and of course the big bombshell was that very morphew,
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Speaker 1: Susanne's husband was charged with first murder, tampering with evidence,
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Speaker 1: and also influencing attempting to influence a public servant. Now, see,
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Speaker 1: that is what I find to be a surprise. Trying
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Speaker 1: to influence a public servant. I mean out to you,
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Speaker 1: Tyson Draper with the Draper Brothers YouTube channel. What does
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Speaker 1: that tell you? Well, good morning, Nancy. One of the
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Speaker 1: things that we heard along the way was that Barry
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Speaker 1: was trying to, you know, bribe somebody from the fire
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Speaker 1: department or the police department or something along those lines.
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Speaker 1: I never could figure out who it was, and we
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Speaker 1: never could get to the box. I've got a pretty
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Speaker 1: good idea, Tyson, I got a really good idea, Cheryl McCollum.
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Speaker 1: Remember at the beginning the story was and you and
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Speaker 1: I at the time were thousands of miles apart, only
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Speaker 1: to find out later we were both doing the same thing,
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Speaker 1: unbeknownst to the other. It first came out that Barry
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Speaker 1: few at the time of his wife Suzanne's disappearance, was
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Speaker 1: that some type of continuing firefighter education, I think in Denver,
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Speaker 1: in another city, and I'm like, whoa, wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: You're gonna leave on Mother's Day and be gone. You
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Speaker 1: can't be there to make one fried egg and a
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Speaker 1: flower from the front yard, please, seriously no. And so
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Speaker 1: I started trying to find out what continuing legal I mean,
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Speaker 1: continuing firefighter education are you going to on Mother's Day?
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Speaker 1: And I couldn't find a single thing. That's right, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: and you and I were very clear that there is
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Speaker 1: no law enforcement or firefighter training at any academy on
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Speaker 1: a Sunday. It doesn't exist. Didn't happen. So just where
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Speaker 1: we practice, Cheryl, but in every year we've had to
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Speaker 1: take continuing legal education to keep our barrows and for investigations,
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Speaker 1: for the latest in DNA, for the latest in techniques.
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Speaker 1: You go every year. It was called pat Prosecuting Attorneys
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Speaker 1: Council Seminar. It's never on a Sunday, never, And ours
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Speaker 1: is called POST. It's the same thing. But remember when
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Speaker 1: we looked up their training schedule, we looked up the
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Speaker 1: fire Department's training schedule. There was nothing scheduled, not just
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Speaker 1: on that Sunday, but that whole weekend. So Tyson Draper,
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Speaker 1: I'm just casting my bread upon the water, hoping for
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Speaker 1: a bite. But doesn't that kind of make a little
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Speaker 1: sense to you? Yeah, it makes perfect sense now, you know,
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Speaker 1: looking forward, you know, we can see that Barry was
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Speaker 1: he was making this up as he went. You know,
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Speaker 1: he didn't have a firefighter firefighter training in Denver or
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Speaker 1: anything like that. He was making all this up on
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Speaker 1: the fly and gathering his workers together to go work
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Speaker 1: on that wall in Broomfield. So as far as that goes, no,
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Speaker 1: I don't think there was ever any kind of training.
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Speaker 1: But as far as the bribe, I'm not sure who
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Speaker 1: it was. Man, I don't know if it was a
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Speaker 1: firefighter that maybe he confided in or who. But there's
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Speaker 1: somebody out there that he was trying to bribe back
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Speaker 1: guy to. Lauren Sharf reported with Fox twenty one News,
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Speaker 1: and I really want you to take a look if
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Speaker 1: you can, at that Fox twenty one news dot com
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Speaker 1: interview she is just posted with Suzanne's sister, Lauren Sharf.
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Speaker 1: First of all, we don't have a body, but as
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Speaker 1: any lawyer can tell you, any prosecutor, you can prove
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Speaker 1: a case without a body. Wendy Patrick, isn't that true.
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Speaker 1: We're not going to give a defendant a gold star
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Speaker 1: or an A plus because not only did he manage
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Speaker 1: to kill the victim, but to get rid of her
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Speaker 1: body too. No, that is not going to stop an
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Speaker 1: investigation or a prosecution. Wendy, are you with me? Wendy Patrick? Okay,
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Speaker 1: thank I've lost Wendy. I'm gonna circle back to Lauren Sharf. Lauren,
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Speaker 1: we were we were made acutely aware of the fact
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Speaker 1: that there is not a body. What else, if anything,
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Speaker 1: did you Lauren yesterday? Man? I mean these law enforcement officers,
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Speaker 1: I mean from local, state to federal, they kept a
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Speaker 1: lot of things tight lifts throughout this investigation, and you know,
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Speaker 1: and an arrest had been highly anticipated throughout this whole time,
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Speaker 1: this whole years. On Monday, it will mark one year
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Speaker 1: of Susanne being disappeared. And from the very beginning it
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Speaker 1: was clear law enforcement had their sights on Barry. As
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Speaker 1: the months passed and he was not cleared, public suspicion,
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Speaker 1: suspicion heightened. Law enforcement made a public declaration in one
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Speaker 1: of their last press releases which clearly implicated him. When
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Speaker 1: they explicitly pointed out that Barry Morphy was the last
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Speaker 1: known person to have seen Susanne. This despite Barry's claimed that,
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Speaker 1: you know, he told me that he had heard that
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Speaker 1: two people who saw her on Sunday, but you know,
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Speaker 1: wouldn't tell me exactly who those people were because I
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Speaker 1: would have loved to talk to them, you know, That's
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Speaker 1: what I would always do on cross examination. For instance,
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Speaker 1: just an example in the Scott Peterson case. Right now,
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Speaker 1: his sister in law Jamie Peterson is saying, oh, there
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Speaker 1: are people that saw Lacy alive after Scott Peterson went fishing. Okay,
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Speaker 1: who how can I reach them? How can I talk
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Speaker 1: to them? So you're exactly correct, what two people saw
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Speaker 1: Susanne moorephe you alive? And why would he not give
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Speaker 1: you the names? That's a great question. I asked the
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Speaker 1: same thing to him and he couldn't give me an answer. Really.
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Speaker 1: And another thing that's very interesting is everything he said
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Speaker 1: to you can be used at trial. Absolutely, that statement
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Speaker 1: right there can be used for trial. So now he's
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Speaker 1: locked in to what he was telling you. Crime stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. Guys, for those of you just joining
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Speaker 1: us in the last hours, a major bombshell in the
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Speaker 1: search for a missing mom. Suzanne Morphew, her two daughters
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Speaker 1: have being kept under wraps throughout this entire time, but
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Speaker 1: I now know that her sister, Susanne's sister is trying
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Speaker 1: to reach out to the daughters to connect with them
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Speaker 1: and what must be a horrible time in their lives.
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Speaker 1: I mean, doctor Angela Arnold Psychiatrists joining us out of
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Speaker 1: the Atlanta jurisdiction at Angela Arnold MD dot com. You've
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Speaker 1: got these two daughters, and I'm curious, Angela who set
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Speaker 1: up their camping trip for them to be away on
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Speaker 1: Mother's Day weekend, leaving mom alone with Barry Morphew. What
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Speaker 1: do you think they're going through right now? Right? It
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Speaker 1: does It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. And I mean, Dancy.
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Speaker 1: First of all, they've lost their mother, so they have
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Speaker 1: to grieve the loss of their mother and now and
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Speaker 1: now these two kids are going to have to also
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Speaker 1: grief the loss of their father. So basically they're going
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Speaker 1: to have been orphaned by this man. You know, I'm
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Speaker 1: trying to pick through the words we heard yesterday because
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Speaker 1: they were very very clear. Cheryl McCollum, Joe Scott Morgan,
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Speaker 1: Laurence Sharff and Tyson Draper. Listen to this. They're very
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Speaker 1: clear that they know quote the certain scenario and how
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Speaker 1: she was killed. Right now, I'm trying to find out
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Speaker 1: who that redhead is. He's been spotted eating out with
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Speaker 1: and engaged in animated conversation in his truck outside a motel.
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Speaker 1: But first of all, take a listen to the HV
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Speaker 1: County Sheriff. This is John Speazy. Listen. Today marks the
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Speaker 1: culmination of thousands of hours in this comprehensive investigative effort
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Speaker 1: to locate the mother of two who went missing May
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Speaker 1: tenth of twenty twenty. More than seventy investigators from the
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Speaker 1: Chiefe County Sheriff's office to call her a Bureau of Investigation,
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Speaker 1: the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and dozens of other law
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Speaker 1: enforcement agencies have provided their expertise on this case. We've
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Speaker 1: executed more than one hundred and thirty five search warrants
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Speaker 1: across Colorado. We've interviewed more than four hundred individuals in
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Speaker 1: multiple states. Our team has also investigated more than fourteen
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Speaker 1: hundred tips generated from within an outside of law enforcement.
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Speaker 1: In early April, the extensive work completed by our investigative
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Speaker 1: team was presented to the eleventh Judicial District Attorney's office,
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Speaker 1: and that multiple hour presentation we allow outlined all of
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Speaker 1: the information and evidence we have taken in over the
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Speaker 1: past twelve months. Following that meeting, the District Attorney's office
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Speaker 1: reviewed our case and information and solidified their decision to
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Speaker 1: move forward on this case. Is it true, Laurence Sharp
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Speaker 1: reporter Fox twenty one that a cadavered dog at some
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Speaker 1: point during this investigation hit somewhere I want to bury
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Speaker 1: more fuse property, which he then sold. He sold that
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Speaker 1: property and the one million dollar plus home he shared
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Speaker 1: with Susanne Moorephew did a cadaver dog hit that is
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Speaker 1: kind of still unknown. During Andy's Susanne's brothers search back
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Speaker 1: in September, they had multiple cadaver dogs and search dogs
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Speaker 1: check out properties of very Morphews and job sites that
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Speaker 1: he worked on, and they hit a couple of spots.
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Speaker 1: But the chief the County Sheriff's office came back and
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Speaker 1: they said that, according to them, it wasn't a good
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Speaker 1: enough hit. Interesting. You know, Cheryl McCollum, you and I
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Speaker 1: have independently taken cadaver dogs out to various locations, and
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Speaker 1: you know a hit when you see it. Now, law
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Speaker 1: enforcement may say we're not counting that it's because they
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Speaker 1: weren't there to see it, but that does not mean
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Speaker 1: it didn't happen. When a cadaver dog hit, you know it,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCallum, No question about it, Nancy. But here's what
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Speaker 1: I love. They've got at least twelve things that I
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Speaker 1: can think of off the top of my head that
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Speaker 1: is circumstantial that it would help with this case. One
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Speaker 1: is he didn't report her missing, He had somebody else
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Speaker 1: to do it. He gave some bogus theory that, oh,
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Speaker 1: it was probably a mountain lion, and then he lied
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Speaker 1: about training, He refused two polygraphs, he tried to bribe
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Speaker 1: a public official. Nancy. There's data from his truck. The
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Speaker 1: truck will tell you where that truck was, and did
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Speaker 1: that lineup with his stories? It didn't, And then you've
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Speaker 1: got insurance. Then you've got did he or did he
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Speaker 1: not participate in these searches? Why wasn't he looking for
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Speaker 1: He should have been the first one out there. He
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Speaker 1: didn't ask for her safe return for a week, and
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Speaker 1: that tells you he knew dagum Good and wale. She
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Speaker 1: wasn't kidnapped. The chlorine in the hotel room, evidence off
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Speaker 1: the bicycle was there, Dirt was there, rocks was there,
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Speaker 1: plants that were indicative of are driving on that road.
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Speaker 1: And then the biggest thing for me was you've got
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Speaker 1: somebody missing and you sell her house. That's because you
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Speaker 1: know she was walking back, walking back in the door.
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Speaker 1: And it reminds me so much again of Scott Peterson.
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Speaker 1: The minute Lacy goes missing, he orders the porn channel.
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Speaker 1: You know that, Jackie, it would be a cold day
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Speaker 1: in h E double l I'll come home and find
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Speaker 1: David Lynch's ordered the porn channel and tries to sell
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Speaker 1: her house and tries to sell the car. He knew
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Speaker 1: she was not coming back home, and that happened when
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Speaker 1: he like a week. All right, Tyson Draper, you're there
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Speaker 1: with your nose to the ground. They're talking about a
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Speaker 1: quote certain scenario. Their words, not mine. That's what the
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Speaker 1: sheriff is saying. What is the scenario? What do you know? Tyson? Well,
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the hits quick, Nancy, if
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Speaker 1: you don't mind, because I found out some information on
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Speaker 1: those I can't believe you waited. Listen, this is like
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Speaker 1: a big family sitting around the table arguing about something.
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Speaker 1: You don't have to wait on me to call on
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Speaker 1: you like a school teacher. Jump in. Man. Okay, well
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Speaker 1: let me tell you what I what my theory is.
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Speaker 1: And a lot of people have this same theory. With
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Speaker 1: the hit, the dog hit. So the place where these
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Speaker 1: the dogs hit the cadaver dogs were interesting because that's
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Speaker 1: the spots where Barry used his Bobcat. If you don't
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Speaker 1: know what a bobcat is, it's one of those little
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Speaker 1: tractors that he uses for his landscaping business. And what
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Speaker 1: we found interesting. The bobcat became a major focus in
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Speaker 1: this investigation for us, some of us YouTubers, because he
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Speaker 1: used it, we believe, to dispose of Suzanne's body. And
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Speaker 1: that's why the dog were hitting in these different areas
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Speaker 1: because he used the Bobcat. Okay, wait, let me understand.
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Speaker 1: What you're saying with me is Tyson Draper and you
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Speaker 1: can find me. He's got a YouTube channel called the
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Speaker 1: Draper Brothers. So if he used the bobcat to dispose
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Speaker 1: of Suzanne's body at any time, and then the bobcat
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Speaker 1: was used in different places. A cadaver dog will probably
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Speaker 1: hit on multiple places where the bobcat was then used.
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Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying, That's exactly what I'm saying, Nancy. Okay,
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Speaker 1: he was planning. He was planning a bunch of trees
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Speaker 1: in different spots at the Longhorn Ranch subdivision and then
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Speaker 1: some other spots. So the focus of the investigation when
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Speaker 1: Andy was there, and you got to remember that this
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Speaker 1: was an independent search, independent of the Chape County. They
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Speaker 1: weren't involved in it, and so it wasn't their cadaver dog,
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Speaker 1: so they didn't put a lot of credibility on that.
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Speaker 1: So anyway, he was planting trees and this is where
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Speaker 1: the dogs hit. So we wanted to dig down and
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Speaker 1: see if maybe she was buried where he put those trees,
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Speaker 1: but Chape County wouldn't do it. They just came and looked.
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Speaker 1: They just observed it and then kind of you know,
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Speaker 1: picked up some dirt and shuffled it around and then
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Speaker 1: left and said, well, she's not here. So there's really
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Speaker 1: been as far as I know, there's been no digs
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Speaker 1: at those sites. But they were very interesting because those
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Speaker 1: dogs were hitting very frantically in those areas. You know,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, You and I were just out at a
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Speaker 1: cold case site recently looking for a young line they
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Speaker 1: went missing, and you and I both saw the dog hit. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so then we did groundbreaking sonar. Correct. I'm very surprised
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Speaker 1: that the sonar has not been brought to the Saint
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace for those of you just
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Speaker 1: joining us, big development in the case Missing Moms us
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Speaker 1: in more few in the last hours, her husband, Barry
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Speaker 1: Morphew has been arrested and we're trying to figure out
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Speaker 1: what happened because the sheriffs are not saying, and they
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Speaker 1: don't have to. Just because we want to know does
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Speaker 1: not mean they need to divulge what's going on in
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Speaker 1: an ongoing investigation. What do I mean? They do not
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Speaker 1: have her body, but everybody on this panel told you
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Speaker 1: on about day two that Suzanne Morphew was no longer
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Speaker 1: amongst us, no longer amongst the living. There's no way
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Speaker 1: she would have stayed away from her children and her
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Speaker 1: family the way she has. Guys, I want you to
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Speaker 1: take a listen to more of what we are learning.
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Speaker 1: Prosecutors will not say how Susanne Morphew died. They do
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Speaker 1: not know where her body is buried, but tonight, nearly
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Speaker 1: a year to the day since she disappeared, they believe
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Speaker 1: they know who killed her. By Morphew, the person Susanne
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Speaker 1: built a life with, had children with, who begged for
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Speaker 1: her safe return, is now charged in her murder. Barrymore
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Speaker 1: Few is in a holding cell in Chafe County. The
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Speaker 1: DA says he isn't talking well. That much is true.
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Speaker 1: That was Andre Hio and Shannon Ogden at ABC Denverse seven.
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Speaker 1: Now take a listen to Sloan Dickey. Yeah, the big
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Speaker 1: news from here today is this is no longer being
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Speaker 1: looked at as a missing person investigation for Susanne Morphew,
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Speaker 1: as her husband, Barrymorephy was arrested on first degree murder charges.
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Speaker 1: The Chaffey County Sheriff, John Breezy did not disclose much
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Speaker 1: information about the nature of the case, such as what
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Speaker 1: information over the past year led to the arrest of Barrymorephe.
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Speaker 1: Search teams still have not located Susanne, given or given
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Speaker 1: us any information they have narrowed that they have narrowed
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Speaker 1: their search for her body. The sheriff did say that
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Speaker 1: law enforcement has been collecting evidence and building their case
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Speaker 1: over the past year leading up to the arrest. Today
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Speaker 1: is not today for celebration, nor does it mark the
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Speaker 1: end of this investigation. Rather, it's a next step. It
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Speaker 1: is very difficult, yet very important journey. To Tyson Draper
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Speaker 1: in your your understanding, what do they have? They're talking
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Speaker 1: about a year's worth of investigation leading leading up to
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Speaker 1: culminating in the r rest. What isn't I think it's
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Speaker 1: just the the technology side of it. I think it's
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Speaker 1: the fall pings. I think it's the text messages. I
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Speaker 1: think it's a lot of that stuff circumstantial. Nancy, I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I don't know what they have.
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Speaker 1: I don't. As I tell law enforcement when they take
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Speaker 1: the stand, don't ever tell me I don't know. Tell
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Speaker 1: me what you think. I know you think something. You
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Speaker 1: have been out there in the thick of it, and
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Speaker 1: I believe what you said is correct. Tyson Draper to you,
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Speaker 1: Lauren Sharf, the pings on his cell phone, the data
21:50
Speaker 1: from his truck or another vehicle. I pray to God
21:54
Speaker 1: law enforcement has taken the Bobcat and every other thing
22:00
Speaker 1: connected to Barry Moorephew to prove this case. What do
22:04
Speaker 1: you think, Lauren Sharf fancy? They have done over four
22:08
Speaker 1: hundred interviews, So there's people who witnessed something out of
22:12
Speaker 1: the ordinary that weekend that notified law enforcement. They took
22:17
Speaker 1: up fourteen hundred tips and followed those tips, and I think,
22:22
Speaker 1: I mean, they worked this case relentlessly for those twelve months.
22:26
Speaker 1: And I know because they're not releasing a lot of
22:29
Speaker 1: information yet doesn't mean they you know, I mean the
22:34
Speaker 1: district attorney, Linda's Fanley, says she is confident that she
22:39
Speaker 1: can get a conviction out of the evidence that was
22:42
Speaker 1: presented to her. And she said, you know, she wouldn't
22:45
Speaker 1: have presented a warrant unless she had a confident case,
22:51
Speaker 1: and she did. Yeah. Well, and Nancy, that's a big
22:54
Speaker 1: part of this because you remember, prosecutors can't file charges
22:57
Speaker 1: unless they think they can prove the case beyond a
23:00
Speaker 1: reasonable doubt. So while we know under the law nobody
23:03
Speaker 1: no problem, they can still prove murder through what you
23:07
Speaker 1: just heard, good old fashioned police work. One hundred and
23:10
Speaker 1: thirty five search warrants, fourteen hundred tip things would be
23:14
Speaker 1: more than four hundred people, and the charges themselves tell
23:17
Speaker 1: the story of what we can expect to see in court.
23:20
Speaker 1: We don't need the facts to know a little bit
23:22
Speaker 1: about the motive here because of the charges. And another
23:25
Speaker 1: thing edge up into Yeah, just recently here in Colorado,
23:31
Speaker 1: there were two cases that got a confiction. That's Kelsey
23:35
Speaker 1: Barriss back in Teller County and then also the Kelsey
23:39
Speaker 1: Shilling case that just wraps up. It was a nine
23:42
Speaker 1: year investigation in Pueblo County. And another thing, Windy Patrick,
23:47
Speaker 1: is that you should never go forward unless you're ready
23:51
Speaker 1: for trial, because what the defense can do is slap
23:54
Speaker 1: you with a demand for speedy trial under the Constitution,
23:58
Speaker 1: which means you've got try your case either in that
24:02
Speaker 1: grand jury term or the next two and typically they
24:06
Speaker 1: last about two months each, which means once you file
24:10
Speaker 1: an indictment and a grand jury terms an indictment, if
24:12
Speaker 1: they hit you with a speedy trial demand, you've got
24:15
Speaker 1: six months max to take the case to trial or
24:19
Speaker 1: there was an automatic dismissal without the right to refile
24:25
Speaker 1: the charges. So you better be ready once you bring
24:28
Speaker 1: formal charges. You know, I was going to follow up
24:32
Speaker 1: on what they may have, but one thing always struck
24:35
Speaker 1: me is highly probative to you, Tyson Draper didn't Bury Morphew,
24:42
Speaker 1: wasn't he spotted out searching and a dump for Suzanne
24:48
Speaker 1: Morphew's bike helmet. Yeah, well that was that a bike
24:53
Speaker 1: shop in downtown Salida or right. Yeah, he was searching
24:58
Speaker 1: through the trash can, supposedly looking for her helmet. Asked it,
25:03
Speaker 1: so he left that that little note. I don't know
25:05
Speaker 1: if you guys have all seen that little note. That
25:08
Speaker 1: was very vague. It said like like she had a
25:11
Speaker 1: blue bike helmet and blue clothes or something like that. Well, he,
25:17
Speaker 1: you know, the person that was running the shop stepped
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Speaker 1: out and asked him what he was doing digging through
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Speaker 1: the garbage can, and then he started this whole dialogue
25:24
Speaker 1: about her helmet. He was looking for her helmet in
25:26
Speaker 1: the trash can. Very bizarre, very very unusual. And I
25:30
Speaker 1: want to go to J. Scott Morgan, Professor forensics, Jacksonville
25:34
Speaker 1: State University and author of Blood Beneath My Feet now
25:37
Speaker 1: on Amazon. J Scot they have something, and they've got
25:41
Speaker 1: some something that's very very powerful. They may not have
25:46
Speaker 1: a body, but they've got something. What is it? Yeah?
25:50
Speaker 1: That's you know. I sat there and I was listening
25:52
Speaker 1: to the press conference yesterday, and when Linda Stanley, the prosecutor,
25:56
Speaker 1: stood up or came forward to the mic and specifically
25:59
Speaker 1: said we're charging him with first degree murder. She didn't
26:03
Speaker 1: go any other route. It's first degree murder. And there's
26:05
Speaker 1: just certain things, elements of that crime that have to
26:08
Speaker 1: be met. And I was reading over that, and one
26:11
Speaker 1: of the things that this goes to, and I think
26:13
Speaker 1: that this is what she's hanging her hat on, or
26:15
Speaker 1: what the prosecutor's office is hanging there at on, is
26:18
Speaker 1: indifference to the value of human life. You cause the
26:21
Speaker 1: death of another person by knowingly engaging in contact which
26:24
Speaker 1: creates a grave risk of death. There's no other element
26:27
Speaker 1: contained within Colorado's statute that met that other than this,
26:31
Speaker 1: And so I think, and this is kind of what
26:34
Speaker 1: I was thinking about. Just like you guys in prosecutors,
26:38
Speaker 1: you have elements of a crime, there's also something in
26:41
Speaker 1: forensic pathology and elements of the body. I'm really wondering
26:45
Speaker 1: maybe we don't have a body in this case. However,
26:49
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if they haven't come across an area and
26:51
Speaker 1: I'm thinking specifically out where that bike made contact with
26:55
Speaker 1: another vehicle. If there was, say, for instance, a copious
26:59
Speaker 1: amount of blood out there, or that they found it
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Speaker 1: somewhere else, that would deem this or her just her person.
27:07
Speaker 1: Hang on her person. I've never collided with anybody that. Look,
27:13
Speaker 1: how do we know that? How do we know that
27:17
Speaker 1: charged with murder and he wasn't. I think I think
27:22
Speaker 1: that they have come across some kind of biological sample
27:25
Speaker 1: at some point in time that would make her incompatible
27:29
Speaker 1: or to make her absence incompatible with life. She's been
27:33
Speaker 1: gone too long. Okay, you got to shut it down.
27:37
Speaker 1: I think you're trying to say you believe they found
27:39
Speaker 1: so much blood somewhere that she could not have survived. Yeah,
27:42
Speaker 1: and they would call that incompatibility with life. Yeah, I
27:45
Speaker 1: would call it finding so much blood that she's not alive.
27:48
Speaker 1: That's what I would call it. Crime stories with Nancy Grace,
28:01
Speaker 1: Suzanne Morphew's husband Barry Morpheus, now being charged with murder,
28:06
Speaker 1: got a lot of questions, including who's that redhead. He's
28:09
Speaker 1: been hanging out with much younger redhead and it's not
28:11
Speaker 1: his daughter. Curious. First of all, take a listen to
28:17
Speaker 1: Mormon on Doctor Phil This is the brother Andy Mormon
28:22
Speaker 1: the EBI information. When instructed in the lineup, Phil, he
28:25
Speaker 1: said he's all her at five am, and he did not.
28:28
Speaker 1: And how do you know that testimony from an employee
28:31
Speaker 1: that he was rambling down the road texting people at
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Speaker 1: four in the morning, trying to get him to go
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Speaker 1: to Broomfield and so can't be at home at five
28:40
Speaker 1: and talking to somebody on the road at four, right,
28:44
Speaker 1: just so that the timeline doesn't add up at all,
28:47
Speaker 1: not at all. You've got two nieces, Mallory who's now
28:51
Speaker 1: twenty two and Macy who's sixteen. Would she go off
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Speaker 1: writing by herself or would she be in contact with them?
28:58
Speaker 1: Would she go off the radar for seven days and
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Speaker 1: have no social media presence, no presence electronically for that
29:08
Speaker 1: period of time with her daughters? Now? Absolutely? Ah, you
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Speaker 1: were here hearing our friend doctor Feels speaking to Suzanne's
29:16
Speaker 1: mother brother. But that's not all that he said. Take
29:19
Speaker 1: a listen to the brother speaking to KdV RTV. Listen.
29:24
Speaker 1: I think she was abducted Saturday, not Sunday. I don't
29:28
Speaker 1: think she ever got on her bicycle. If you want
29:29
Speaker 1: the truth of matter, I expect that she was killed
29:35
Speaker 1: and hidden somewhere in the mountains and her husband not
29:40
Speaker 1: involved in this search. Have you talked to him? What's
29:42
Speaker 1: the relationship there? I have not talked to him. He
29:46
Speaker 1: was invited into the search by Profiling Evil and he
29:49
Speaker 1: did not respond. We ran into him yesterday and he
29:54
Speaker 1: was out hanging trail cams with a shotgun on his
29:56
Speaker 1: shoulder and just kind of told us, you know, hey,
30:00
Speaker 1: you're about to step on private property. So we turned
30:03
Speaker 1: around and went back. We did uncover some things on
30:07
Speaker 1: that mountaintop close to the home yesterday that are being
30:10
Speaker 1: processed by CBI and the Sheriff's department, and we hope
30:15
Speaker 1: to find more today. Do you think anyone would want
30:18
Speaker 1: to hurt Susanne? No, I really don't. I'm afraid this
30:22
Speaker 1: is domestic abuse. To be honest with you, I can
30:25
Speaker 1: tell you this much. Sheryl McCall him if somebody accused
30:28
Speaker 1: me of domestic or child abuse, I would sue the
30:32
Speaker 1: living pants off them that day. But even after Suzanne's
30:39
Speaker 1: brother and he said it on Doctor Phil, he said
30:41
Speaker 1: it to k d v R TV. I think, Barrymoreph,
30:45
Speaker 1: you killed my sister, and I think it was domestic abuse.
30:49
Speaker 1: Not a peep I would have had him strung up
30:51
Speaker 1: on the flagpole. And I knew, but nothing. It ain't
30:57
Speaker 1: not a word, it ain't was said. It ain't slander
31:00
Speaker 1: if it's true. So he's gonna still him for what
31:03
Speaker 1: he knows the truth. And here's something else. There's evidence
31:06
Speaker 1: on that bicycle, there's evidence at the house, and there's
31:09
Speaker 1: evidence on that bobcat. And I'm going to paraphrase you
31:12
Speaker 1: when you were my pro lawder, we had a case
31:15
Speaker 1: that was straight up circumstantial. You looked at that jury
31:20
Speaker 1: and you said, he's a killer. Don't reward him for
31:24
Speaker 1: being good at it. We don't need a body. We
31:28
Speaker 1: got everything else. You know. I've always been curious, Laurence Sharp,
31:32
Speaker 1: and I haven't ever really gotten an answer, although I
31:34
Speaker 1: think I know the answer. Who started the whole bike
31:38
Speaker 1: scenario to start with? I thought Barrymorephey was out of
31:42
Speaker 1: town either at continuing firefighter education whoops, now on a job.
31:48
Speaker 1: He made up that morning at four am and he
31:51
Speaker 1: called the neighbor lady. Did he tell her Susanne maybe
31:56
Speaker 1: out on her bike? Where did that come from? You're right, Nancy,
31:59
Speaker 1: Barry told me that he, you know, asked her to
32:03
Speaker 1: look for Susan's car. The car was in the garage.
32:07
Speaker 1: And then after, hey, it's the bike there, you know,
32:10
Speaker 1: he said, Hey, maybe I asked her. Yeah, I might
32:13
Speaker 1: have asked her if her bike was there. And so
32:15
Speaker 1: it sounded like he started it exactly and then what
32:20
Speaker 1: a surprise, Tyson, Draper, there was the bike. Yep, it
32:26
Speaker 1: was Barry that that planted that idea. I want to
32:29
Speaker 1: figureback off of what the other gentleman said a while
32:31
Speaker 1: the goal if you don't mind about them maybe finding
32:34
Speaker 1: a copious amount of material or whatever. I agree with
32:38
Speaker 1: that because and you guys can correct me if I'm wrong.
32:41
Speaker 1: But it isn't it unusual that law enforcement haild Barry
32:44
Speaker 1: Morpheu's house for three weeks they found something there, because
32:48
Speaker 1: I've talked to people that were at the original search,
32:51
Speaker 1: Barry Morphy's friends. It came from Indiana, and they said,
32:54
Speaker 1: as soon as they walked into the house, it smelt
32:57
Speaker 1: a strong odor of bleach. Barry within there cleaning up
33:01
Speaker 1: something in that house. And I don't think they would
33:03
Speaker 1: have held it for three weeks, do you Well, you're
33:06
Speaker 1: absolutely right, Tyson, And they did hold it for several weeks,
33:10
Speaker 1: and I saw them taking out paper bags of evidence.
33:16
Speaker 1: I mean, doctor Angela Arnold, you're the psychiatrist, You're the
33:19
Speaker 1: m D. I'm just a JD. But isn't it odd
33:21
Speaker 1: how so many husbands turned into real neat nicks as
33:24
Speaker 1: soon as their wife goes missing bleach laundry, I mean,
33:28
Speaker 1: tearing up the carpet and replacing it. It's amazing how
33:31
Speaker 1: that happens. Right, Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure they don't
33:33
Speaker 1: even know what bleach is until it comes to something
33:36
Speaker 1: like this. Right, I'm sure they've never cleaned to toilet
33:39
Speaker 1: with bleach or anything like that, you know. Oh hey, now, hey,
33:43
Speaker 1: now guys, what about the redhead? Can somebody tell me
33:48
Speaker 1: about this woman? Anybody jump in? Draper? Lauren Sharp? Who
33:54
Speaker 1: is she? She's a friend, a really good friend of Susanne.
34:00
Speaker 1: And she was talking to Barry those pictures I've seen
34:04
Speaker 1: him from the Daily Mail. She was talking to Barry
34:07
Speaker 1: and confronting him about what was going on. Did she
34:11
Speaker 1: have to confront him twice? Once in a restaurant and
34:13
Speaker 1: then once in his truck? I think he drove her
34:15
Speaker 1: to the restaurant. Well, it would be a cold day
34:18
Speaker 1: in h e double Well before I'd getten a loan
34:20
Speaker 1: in a car with a truck with Barry Moore few
34:22
Speaker 1: but hey, that's just me, guys. So much we've learned
34:26
Speaker 1: about the also significance of her going missing on Mother's Day.
34:33
Speaker 1: You know, I've never gotten an answer, and I imagine
34:36
Speaker 1: Tyson Draper or Laurence Scharf may know the answer. Who
34:40
Speaker 1: arranged the camping trip for the two daughters. Well, what
34:44
Speaker 1: I heard it was the one of the sisters, one
34:47
Speaker 1: of Barry's sisters. And I don't I've never had an
34:51
Speaker 1: official confirmation on that, but that's what we got on that, Nancy, Okay,
34:57
Speaker 1: So he did not arrange the camp shrip correct, that's unclear. No,
35:02
Speaker 1: I would say unclear, okay, But if it's his sister
35:06
Speaker 1: arranging it, he had to talk back and forth with
35:10
Speaker 1: her about it. So very curious about that. But I
35:14
Speaker 1: do know this. Take a listen to Erica Gonzalez KdV
35:18
Speaker 1: Our Fox thirty one. A co worker of Suzanne's husband
35:22
Speaker 1: came forward with this new information about the hotel room
35:25
Speaker 1: in Broomfield. Jeff Pucket said, and barrymoreph, you told him
35:28
Speaker 1: to go to Denver. However, Pucket says that he didn't
35:31
Speaker 1: see moreph you because he had already left due to
35:34
Speaker 1: a family emergency. A pucket told The Daily Mail that
35:37
Speaker 1: when he got into the Holiday Inn on May tenth,
35:40
Speaker 1: the room smelled like chlorine and it was scattered with
35:43
Speaker 1: wet towels. He also said that he found a pile
35:45
Speaker 1: of mail inside of that room, including a letter about
35:48
Speaker 1: property insurance, which he says he later turned over to
35:51
Speaker 1: the FBI. A manager at the hotel confirmed they do
35:55
Speaker 1: not use chlorine to clean guest rooms and have handed
35:58
Speaker 1: security footage over to least Additionally, the hotel told her
36:02
Speaker 1: news partner the pool was also closed because of COPD nineteen.
36:05
Speaker 1: So Zen Morphy was a pretty busying back on Mother's Day.
36:09
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't realize, said the home. In addition
36:11
Speaker 1: to this hotel room smelling chlorine, at the home also
36:14
Speaker 1: smelled of bleach. There you have it, Cheryl McCollum, that's
36:18
Speaker 1: what you were saying. That the information that's taken off
36:23
Speaker 1: the nav the navigation system within Barry Morphy's old truck,
36:26
Speaker 1: will reveal he was already on the road to the
36:30
Speaker 1: made up job that nobody seemed to know about until
36:32
Speaker 1: that morning, when he said he was back at the
36:35
Speaker 1: house kissing her goodbye on Mother's Day. So right there,
36:40
Speaker 1: the story is not driving. It's not driving. And what
36:43
Speaker 1: he was doing in that hotel room was cleaning the
36:45
Speaker 1: tools that he used to get rid of her wit.
36:49
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Nancy, they've got copious amounts of blood.
36:53
Speaker 1: It's incompatible with life. I hate to keep saying that,
36:56
Speaker 1: but you don't go to all of these locations, take
36:58
Speaker 1: this much time and left this much evidence without there
37:02
Speaker 1: being something. The key to this is that they don't
37:05
Speaker 1: know where he deposited her. There is evidence that blood
37:09
Speaker 1: has been spilled, I'm telling you, somewhere along the way,
37:13
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be able to pry and I think
37:15
Speaker 1: that they have typed that blood, they were able to
37:17
Speaker 1: type that blood, and they're gonna be able to tie
37:19
Speaker 1: it back to her and say that that is her.
37:21
Speaker 1: And if these instruments that Mack is talking about, and
37:24
Speaker 1: he did a crappy job of cleaning them, you know,
37:27
Speaker 1: why clean them? Why not just throw them away? Well,
37:29
Speaker 1: he's cleaned them, so maybe he's retained them because you know,
37:33
Speaker 1: he works with his hands, he likes his tools. He
37:35
Speaker 1: still got them. I bet he doesn't have them anymore.
37:37
Speaker 1: You know who does have them? Colorado State prom And
37:44
Speaker 1: think about what's following all that evidence you just heard about.
37:47
Speaker 1: This is the classic case where the cover up is
37:49
Speaker 1: evidence of the crime. So what we're doing, if you're
37:52
Speaker 1: going to look for blood, we're gonna follow every place
37:55
Speaker 1: he used the leech and chlorine and everything else. That
37:58
Speaker 1: seems to be the way. We're sort of going to
38:00
Speaker 1: work backwards and find the crime through it. But it's
38:03
Speaker 1: the cover up, like a head job trying to get
38:09
Speaker 1: any sintilla of blood evidence. What were you saying, Nancy?
38:12
Speaker 1: This is also an example of somebody that is not
38:16
Speaker 1: a criminal career killer, like a hitman. If he killed
38:20
Speaker 1: her in that home and she bled on the carpet
38:22
Speaker 1: and he got rid of the carpet and then clean
38:24
Speaker 1: the wood, he has no idea about loom and all
38:27
Speaker 1: he has no idea that could seep under the baseboard
38:30
Speaker 1: and all you got to do is remove it, and
38:32
Speaker 1: her blood is right there in the wood underneath. If
38:35
Speaker 1: it's not treated, they can extract DNA from it. You
38:38
Speaker 1: know at the game, let me let me throw this
38:40
Speaker 1: out to Joe Scott, well, everybody at the gate go.
38:43
Speaker 1: I would have assumed that he would have strangled her
38:46
Speaker 1: asphyxiated her somehow, But that would have required him looking
38:50
Speaker 1: her in the eyes, which makes me now think the
38:53
Speaker 1: two of you are correct that it was a bloody
38:56
Speaker 1: current scene because I don't think he's got the backbone.
38:59
Speaker 1: Let me say, in a nice way, to look her
39:02
Speaker 1: in the eyes and kill her. Go ahead. You know this,
39:05
Speaker 1: this is my thought. You know, this is a big,
39:07
Speaker 1: strapping guy. You know, you see all the pictures of him.
39:09
Speaker 1: It looks like some kind of you know, gym rat.
39:11
Speaker 1: You know when you take a look at him, I'm
39:13
Speaker 1: thinking I was thinking the same thing. Why not just
39:15
Speaker 1: wrap your hands around her tiny little throat and choke
39:19
Speaker 1: the life out of her? That you've been thinking about
39:22
Speaker 1: this way too much? Well, I have been, And this
39:25
Speaker 1: is this goes more to Angela. But I gotta tell you,
39:28
Speaker 1: this gives me an indication if if, if what we're
39:31
Speaker 1: saying is plausible and there's a lot of blood, this
39:34
Speaker 1: goes to passion, and did he beat the hell out
39:38
Speaker 1: of this poor woman? And then now, like Mack was saying,
39:41
Speaker 1: he's dragging her all around and he's thinking, oh god,
39:43
Speaker 1: I gotta cast a wide net to get rid of
39:45
Speaker 1: all of this physical evidence. I know I've seen something
39:47
Speaker 1: on Crime Chows about depositing, you know, leaving behind biological evidence.
39:52
Speaker 1: Now I got to go behind myself, and he's cut
39:54
Speaker 1: a wide swath. Oh how I would like to see
39:57
Speaker 1: him on some surveillance video buying that bleach. We wait
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Speaker 1: as justice unfalse Nancy Grace Crimes story, signing off goodbye friend,