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Episode 103: Black Or White · The Tom & Gerry Show Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All over there, just listening to the new Dumb and
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Jerry episode. They were talking about the London Marathon. We
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  Speaker 1: used to hold an unofficial Bolton Marathon round here. Nothing
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  Speaker 1: to do with running, mind you. It were more to
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  Speaker 1: do a triathlon type thing. First you'd have a mile
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  Speaker 1: race on a steam engine that normally took at least
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  Speaker 1: two hours, then ladder in entire chymney. Then after that
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  Speaker 1: it's off to pub for a binds a bitter Needless
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  Speaker 1: to say, I had several medals in this event. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I'll see the Tom.
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  Speaker 2: I have only myself to blame.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and you know what, it takes a bigger
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  Speaker 3: Manti sage here.
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  Speaker 2: I let myself down a bank full, but still an
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  Speaker 2: all in dis day and age. When a man pays
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  Speaker 2: money for a thing, you expected to be that thing,
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  Speaker 2: don't you know?
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  Speaker 3: Not anymore? Everyone's going to shy.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we'll welcome everybody to the Tom and Jerry Show.
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  Speaker 2: How are you all keeping? I'm Jerry McBride, there's Tom
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  Speaker 2: o man. We like doing a bit of diy around
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  Speaker 2: the house, both of us separately in our own houses
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  Speaker 2: of course.
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  Speaker 3: Just wandering to Jerry's wake up some Saturday morning, there's
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  Speaker 3: me under the sink.
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  Speaker 2: Oh your chair, Yeah yeah, missus, asking when the shelves
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  Speaker 2: are going up? Next time Tom's up, next time Tom's around.
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  Speaker 2: But I found myself doing a little bit of cocking
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  Speaker 2: around the house at the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: You had your cock in hand, We.
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  Speaker 2: Had the cocking hand.
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  Speaker 3: Did anybody see you with your cocking hand? Because, in
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  Speaker 3: all fairness, like that's the cock everywhere. I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: gotta you gotta be careful because I anybody looks sits
• 1:35
  Speaker 3: straight in the window and you haven't the curtains pon.
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  Speaker 3: You've got your coginhaeand.
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  Speaker 2: They're gonna be in the neighborhood. Watch.
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  Speaker 3: I knew you were. You were a cocksmith's all right.
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  Speaker 3: I knew you were. And I'm proud to say that.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's it's always something people always talk about Jerry
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  Speaker 3: and said, if there's one thing I know about that
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  Speaker 3: man someone with cock.
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  Speaker 2: Some man with the cock anyway, any rate, that's the
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  Speaker 2: cock portion of the.
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  Speaker 3: Way.
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  Speaker 2: Then I got my a tuba cock and I went round, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: silicon filling the course. Silicon. You know, I think if
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  Speaker 2: you're listened to the Tom and Jerry show, you know
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  Speaker 2: what cock is.
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  Speaker 3: So did you get like the decorator's cock?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so it's not a sanitary wear talk all right,
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  Speaker 3: yeah okay, yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 2: So and I got the job done and then I
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  Speaker 2: ran out and I was a night with myself. It
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: was a Saturday, and everyone was shut Hold on, now
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  Speaker 2: you didn't get that.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't get the job done if you ran out,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Get the job done. No, you didn't. But it was
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday and I so happened to find myself in
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  Speaker 2: a one of the discount stores, you know, the Janes
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  Speaker 2: of this world, Oh Jesus, And they had a tuba
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  Speaker 2: cock there for two year, and I was like, that'll
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  Speaker 2: do the end of what I need that that that'll
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  Speaker 2: do just the wee bit that I've left over that
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get done.
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  Speaker 3: It won't it won't do it. It'll do something, but
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  Speaker 3: it won't do what you wanted to do it.
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  Speaker 2: It's like one of these situations where it's like how
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  Speaker 2: badly do you mess up cock?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 2: What is it only sandy silicon? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, no, how far are wrong?
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  Speaker 2: Can you go? Just came out of the tube like milk.
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  Speaker 3: It came out sideways.
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  Speaker 2: It was pure water, and I cocked up the holes
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  Speaker 2: and it just dribbled out of her. It just dribbled
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  Speaker 2: out of her.
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  Speaker 3: This is the thing, like we needed one of our
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  Speaker 3: professionals with the cock.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we know you don't know how good this
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  Speaker 2: was going to be the beginning with.
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  Speaker 3: But you still at the very least we know if
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  Speaker 3: you see a hole that needs filling and you gotta
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  Speaker 3: put cock in there, the last thing you want is
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  Speaker 3: dribbling out of sight. That's very gerard. Have you have
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  Speaker 3: you spoken to anybody about it?
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  Speaker 2: You know? It is an age thing. It's the day
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  Speaker 2: and age we live in where fuckers are making cock
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  Speaker 2: and the filler tube with it and put it on
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  Speaker 2: the wall and it dribbles down the wall, and someone
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  Speaker 2: turns around and goes, boss, this stuff is no good,
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  Speaker 2: and someone up the line goes, fucker sell it anywhere
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  Speaker 2: you see here? Have you no pride?
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly what's going on. And to be fair that
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  Speaker 3: the discounts stores and we have.
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  Speaker 2: One of I wasn't expecting much. What fuck me?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? If it's along the lines of that leads and
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  Speaker 3: these are pieces of advice. I know we've done Tom
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  Speaker 3: and Jerry build the house. And if you're wondering what
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  Speaker 3: the you talking about, go find that episode. There's a
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  Speaker 3: handful of things like if you I here's the thing
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  Speaker 3: ivy heat gun Jert I gave twelve quick for but
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  Speaker 3: I know I'll use that three times between now at
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  Speaker 3: the time, I get twelve quid's word of value and
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  Speaker 3: that's fine, that's fine. I don't need it to do it.
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  Speaker 3: But there's nothing technical. It's just a mega hot hair dryer.
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  Speaker 3: That's all I need from it. But if comes to
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  Speaker 3: silicon and cocking and expand the foreman and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 3: let's just give the five you're extra.
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  Speaker 2: For it one like and it'll go to I will
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  Speaker 2: say in my defense home. It was just that the
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  Speaker 2: other shop was shut and you're wasn't paying wood these prices.
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  Speaker 3: No, Well, if you do go in there on the
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  Speaker 3: third and bring an old person with.
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  Speaker 2: You, did you know that? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, looked.
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  Speaker 2: After you do, you.
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  Speaker 3: Get a discount, they get the discount. So if you
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  Speaker 3: do even that, it's still there. Listen, they know, the
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  Speaker 3: boodies know, and all of them know what they're doing.
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  Speaker 3: They're catching your rotten like they're catching your rotten you
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  Speaker 3: find yourself and they're going, it's just so much stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I've got a plant, I've got a fucking new light,
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  Speaker 3: and all you went in for was a real bit.
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  Speaker 3: So I would say to anyway because and the only
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  Speaker 3: reason is this. If that fucking heat gun breaks, it's
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  Speaker 3: a broke heat gun, and that's fine, I'll go borrow
• 5:18
  Speaker 3: another one. Business When cockin or as for some reason
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  Speaker 3: you meet, I think loads of fellas called calcin because
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  Speaker 3: they just want to they want to make sure it
• 5:28
  Speaker 3: doesn't sound like cock, you know that, and sanitary where
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  Speaker 3: just because you'll only be fucking ripping it out and
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  Speaker 3: replacing it in two years time or even a year's time,
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  Speaker 3: or like jer it just squirted out the end like
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  Speaker 3: a fucking milkshake out at McDonald's.
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  Speaker 2: Like im, you know, and if I hadn't been open
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  Speaker 2: a week, paid the extra for it. You know, don't
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  Speaker 2: don't go to the deals of this world for your
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  Speaker 2: cock ladies and gentlemen. It's just like something a crow
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  Speaker 2: shit in the famine.
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  Speaker 3: Well here's the here's this thing they get out of
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  Speaker 3: jank cause on a if you're caught caught and you
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  Speaker 3: need to get the good, high quality stuff. Chances are
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  Speaker 3: that a screw fix will have it, but they will
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  Speaker 3: put you over the fence for it.
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  Speaker 2: That's the only thing.
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  Speaker 3: They'll have it, but they'll go Or do you want
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  Speaker 3: to do it on a Sunday? Is not out of
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  Speaker 3: bout the way. We've got double time to pay the staff,
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  Speaker 3: so you're gonna pay for it.
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  Speaker 2: But if you want to Salah running around the warehouse exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, this week's episode is brought to you by a
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  Speaker 3: screw Fix.
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  Speaker 2: It's not. It's brought to you by Tom and Jerry,
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  Speaker 2: Thomas o'mahy and Geroge Miguel of Regia over here. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to bring you through the show. Ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 2: You know we're up in the hundreds now of episodes.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know how the show goes? Every week? We
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  Speaker 2: kick it off with the weekly what have you?
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  Speaker 3: This is a very complicated case, mad you know, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of I at outs, a lot of what have you,
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  Speaker 3: and uh, a lot of scrans to keep in my head. Man,
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  Speaker 3: what a fine week and it's not the weather we're
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  Speaker 3: going to be talking about it, but a fine fine
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  Speaker 3: week of a year.
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  Speaker 2: We we we we we have news about a lad
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  Speaker 2: who could have been this lad. But just for the
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  Speaker 2: purpose is this been such a jam packshow? We had
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  Speaker 2: lads to spare This week we bumped this story into
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  Speaker 2: the Weekly What have You. A new world record was
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  Speaker 2: set for the fastest marathon in competition at the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: At the London Marathon, a Kenyan runner called Sebastian Saway
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  Speaker 2: Tom clocked the first ever in competition. Sub to our
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  Speaker 2: marathon your thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, christ above, that's that's twenty six points miles,
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  Speaker 3: isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's running at about thirteen mile an hour.
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  Speaker 3: And not too straight hour on average. Like that the
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  Speaker 3: level of fitness everything. You can't have your ears out
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  Speaker 3: of balance for that one, Like you can't have too
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  Speaker 3: many snots in your nose for that kind of pressure.
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  Speaker 2: Like that is it's so incredible, Tom that I really
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  Speaker 2: you know, we have it here as the Weekly What
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  Speaker 2: have You, But there's very little more to say other
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  Speaker 2: than fuck, that's fast.
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  Speaker 3: That is phenomenal, because like I've done half marathons and
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  Speaker 3: I've done mini races as part to kind of iron
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  Speaker 3: Man things like that, but I could never personally, I
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  Speaker 3: would lose the will to live at about the thirteen
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  Speaker 3: I know, I absolutely know myself well enough I would
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  Speaker 3: lose the will to live and just throw myself in
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  Speaker 3: a ditch or the liffy, you know what I mean
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  Speaker 3: at some point, because I get so phenomenally phenomenally bored running.
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  Speaker 3: I can't. I've tried music, I've tried writing jokes while running.
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  Speaker 3: Something overpowers me like a child who just won't can
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  Speaker 3: sit still in mess. I cannot tolerate it. The nose
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  Speaker 3: that a man can train for that long.
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  Speaker 2: It's not even the run in tom do anything for
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  Speaker 2: three hours in a row and tell me how much
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  Speaker 2: you like it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nothing, you know, but there's nothing.
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  Speaker 2: There's peace.
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  Speaker 3: There's ice cream tasters that get are sick to their
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  Speaker 3: bollocks of it. The old man has run a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of Americans and he every single time, and if he
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  Speaker 3: went down to him now, he hasn't gotten any some
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  Speaker 3: sort of no STYLEGI over he hasn't ever gotten. Oh
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  Speaker 3: do you know what Mandela affected himself into thinking that
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  Speaker 3: this was absolutely mighty? He will tell you right now
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  Speaker 3: if I put him on the podcast, some kind of yok.
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  Speaker 2: I ran I ran one Martin in alive oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And when you look at the data over, you know
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  Speaker 2: I didn't break the two hour barrier, buddy, I'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you that much. But I kept it up and kept
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  Speaker 2: it going the whole way, and then I went up
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  Speaker 2: to do another one. These are just now. I don't
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  Speaker 2: run in the crowd. I don't like people all that much,
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  Speaker 2: to be honest with you. Ah, this is just going
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  Speaker 2: out on the roads and doing it. I went out
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  Speaker 2: on the roads to do another one one day. It
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  Speaker 2: was me forty somewhadd birt and I said, just yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for the day, I'll show I still have a Martin
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  Speaker 2: in me. I ran the bollocks off myself. I got
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  Speaker 2: the thirty kilometers under three hours. I was like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to have a sub four hour marthin igot, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna get to this. Yeah, and I got
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  Speaker 2: to thirty seven kilometers. Tom and I grown to a.
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  Speaker 3: Halt, fucking batteries down.
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  Speaker 2: Just you know, you often hear about hitting the wall.
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  Speaker 2: This was my first experience of it. Like, you think
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  Speaker 2: they could full Margan's forty two kilometers and at thirty
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  Speaker 2: seven you think, gosh, I fucking will hear Yeah, No,
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  Speaker 2: I thought I was going. It was just like literally
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  Speaker 2: power down, Wally, yeah, ooh ooh, little just woo and
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  Speaker 2: I and I don't know how the fuck I got home.
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  Speaker 2: I really don't.
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  Speaker 3: So just a thirty seven, the entire nothing left, the gear,
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  Speaker 3: gearbox dropped out. You hit the fucking tarmac and now it's.
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  Speaker 2: Into the day. It was like asking driving a cart
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  Speaker 2: that had no petrol and then saying, I go on,
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  Speaker 2: you'll roll another five kilometers and it's like, we're not
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  Speaker 2: on a hill, can't roll up hill. We're here.
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  Speaker 3: That's it kind of reminds me of when I when
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  Speaker 3: I tried to walk the goat down that night. They
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  Speaker 3: hit the wall three yards from where I found them.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: They were just like their bodies, their body just frozen.
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  Speaker 3: Can't can't stranger danger, even though I had owned the bastards.
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  Speaker 3: But that's incredible. I didn't realize that the wall would
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  Speaker 3: hit you. I thought the wall would be about the
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  Speaker 3: halfway mark. So no for you.
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  Speaker 2: To say, you know what it might be for somebody
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  Speaker 2: the big breakfast that morning.
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  Speaker 3: To be fair to give your your ab notmal in
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  Speaker 3: that sense, because you will just pull on your runners
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  Speaker 3: and just go running out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, ignorance, that's what I did that. Yeah, I got
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  Speaker 2: the twenty kilometers goes fucking go on.
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  Speaker 3: That's phenomenal that you'd even give it a go like
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  Speaker 3: not a prayer so for this lad to get.
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  Speaker 2: But for this lad rather the weekly have you. But
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  Speaker 2: he's a little bit of a this lad. Sebastian Saway
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  Speaker 2: of Kenya wonderful, yeah, wonderful gason altogether thirty one years
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  Speaker 2: of age, so it's not like he's the lepinist fitness
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  Speaker 2: man you ever seen in your d you know when
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  Speaker 2: he is the fitness man. He's he's not like eighteen.
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  Speaker 3: Years of age, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know going around? What is it?
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  Speaker 3: What is it that the Kenyans have on us?
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  Speaker 2: Is it altitude?
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  Speaker 3: Altitude?
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  Speaker 2: That's best I understand the day train like a much
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  Speaker 2: higher altitude and ah some faster ow it makes him
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  Speaker 2: fitter anyway, Yeah, well look at them in the stat's
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  Speaker 2: better way to put you know who. Let's spare a
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  Speaker 2: thought here as well. Here folks, let's spare a thought
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  Speaker 2: for your myth. Go on, now there we go, easy youth.
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  Speaker 2: Could you from Ethiopia who came in?
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  Speaker 3: Don't the poor bastard.
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  Speaker 2: Where did he end up coming in? All right? So
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  Speaker 2: my man saway came in at one minute fifty nine
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  Speaker 2: and thirty seconds. God damn, that's fast. That's fast. That's fast.
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  Speaker 2: I say it's the first time it's been done in competition,
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  Speaker 2: because I believe they have cracked two hours in some
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  Speaker 2: sort of isolated okay thing where it was like running
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  Speaker 2: around and you had different pace runners and it was
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  Speaker 2: just it was just basically, get this man to two hours.
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  Speaker 2: But this is the first time it's been done in
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  Speaker 2: the wild. Yeah. The guy that came in second came
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  Speaker 2: in at one minute fifty nine and forty one.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, the poor best.
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  Speaker 2: He's the second person to run a sub two hour
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  Speaker 2: marathon in competition, ten seconds after the last guy.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, christ All.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I often said to myself, like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you were there, if you were a Martin runner
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  Speaker 2: and you got to the end and it was just
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  Speaker 2: you and the other guy and it was and seconds in,
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: wouldn't you dig deep? Wouldn't you hit the afterborner? Wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: you just like fucking bury it just for the sake
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  Speaker 2: of of of a sprint finish, spring finish in the marathon, buddy,
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  Speaker 2: it's like you literally cannot go up a gear. Ask
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  Speaker 2: your old man, you'll tell you. It's not like you
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  Speaker 2: have kept a little in the tank. It's perfectly The
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  Speaker 2: butter is evenly spread across the bread, from one end
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  Speaker 2: of it to the next.
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  Speaker 3: So was this the London Marathon then?
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  Speaker 2: Where it was London Marathon?
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  Speaker 3: Yes? So I mean I'm quickly got to give a
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  Speaker 3: shout out, but I want to tell you that I'm
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  Speaker 3: not gonna not say Sebastian had a hard time of it,
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  Speaker 3: but you know he had a soft enough versus other
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  Speaker 3: other people down down through history. But I just don't
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  Speaker 3: want to give a shout out.
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  Speaker 2: To a lad.
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  Speaker 3: He another lead. He is probably the greatest name in
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  Speaker 3: racing history. His name is Gout Gout from Australia, which
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: is an ironic name given a fellow who uses his
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  Speaker 3: feet for his profession. But he's only a sixteen year
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  Speaker 3: old and he is after beating now he's he has
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  Speaker 3: become the fastest ever Australian. And from that are that
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  Speaker 3: the whole area of Australia, suppose the islands and everything
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  Speaker 3: near it in the Pacific Ocean like ocean, and you
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  Speaker 3: know like it's around all around that area, Tasmania, news
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  Speaker 3: Eland and stuff. He's the fastest runner of all time
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  Speaker 3: at two hundred meters at the two hundred meters. But
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  Speaker 3: what has earned him a right look, because these six
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  Speaker 3: certain things that happening the whole time was earned him
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  Speaker 3: a right look is that he has beaten usaying both
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  Speaker 3: underage two hundred meter gotcha, so Husaying Bold, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he still holds it for one hundred meters and watch
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  Speaker 3: you might.
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  Speaker 2: Call it, but he does.
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  Speaker 3: He he had also a two hundred as well, and
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  Speaker 3: it was up until now like since he was fucking
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  Speaker 3: sixteen as well. But he beat him by he would,
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: Husaying Bold was twenty seconds thirteen which two hundred meters
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: just to becouse Jesus Christ. But but yeah, gout gout
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: got it too. I think it's like twenty like he
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: took a good lump off and it's like twenty oh
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: six or something like that, which in the scheme of things,
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: you wouldn't scratch a hole in that length of time.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: But that's a huge nip to take off somebody so big.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's it's crazy, like you know, obviously you
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: want to run that as fast as you can in
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: the marathon is generally the endurance race. But I think
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: we're closing the gap. Tom. The gap between the fastest
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: two hundred meters and the fastest marathon is less than
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: an hour and fifty nine minutes. That's fucking mental.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: That is mental. But in fairs, running in London for
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: him probably was I won't say a walk in the
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: park because you know, it's a run in the bark room,
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: but it's a bit on the handy side, it's on
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: the flat, it's but well down at sea level, you
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: know what I mean?
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Where he's right hot, not scold and hot.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Because I will go back almost one hundred years ago
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: there to the Olympics, right, the nineteen oh four Olympics
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: held in Saint Louis in America. It was thirty fucking
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: two degrees they said the day they set off, right,
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: and it was thirty four of them involved. So it's
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: a small enough set up at the time, but thirty
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: fourth involved and they set off and the organizers didn't
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: really put a lot of thought into the water. The
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: water station halfway at the thirteen mile mark. One two
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: two lads who are from South Africa who took off
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: got chased a mile off course by wild dogs during
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: the races now the Olympics. Right, one fellow who he
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: got disqualified because he came he came in looked fairly alright,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: but it soon became apparent that about two miles into
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: the race he jumped into the car and he got
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: dropped off two miles. It was alright because they had
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: a winner who actually had to be carried over the line,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: which was allowed to be done at the time. He
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: had to be carried. He was his legs, legs were
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: twirling in the air, almost like you know, there's those
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: little dogs you'd see in the pen held in the
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: bat who still think they're badling. His legs were tirling
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: in the air. Two lads, a guy by the name
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: of Fred Laws, who crossed the line basically in fucking ribbons,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: right yeah, because he had taken some technically rat poison. Ah,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: it'll get me, it'll get me up. Before the race. Well,
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: he started to hallucinating nine miles in and went off
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: course and then his body started to shut down. But
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: he did make it to the twenty six or twenty
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: five and a half mile mark, and the lads had
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: to pretty much lift him and carry him so but
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: it went to him for a finish. But other than that, like.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Tom, this sounds like National Lampoon's Marathon.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: A hilarious like hilarious amount of like like if anybody
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: wants to go look it up. It's essentially it's titled
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: everywhere the Marathon that tried to kill everyone, which is
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: a great title for it's the marathon that tried to
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: kill everyone, essentially.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: But do look it up.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: There's more, there is, There is loads.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: More to hold them all the stuff. I'm gonna find
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: a few bits and pieces and throw them up on
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: the But there you go. Congratulations to Sebastian Sideway for
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: for cracking the tour. Martin, keep it up, lad, I
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: see one forty five in your future. In the meantime,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: we're going to move on to the next segment of
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: the show, which isn't exactly going to slow down. Let's
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: go into it, Tom, Let's not talk about that ladder
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: of those lads, of the other lads. Let's talk about this.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Lad that we've seen to have stuck on a bit
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: of a team for the last couple of weeks. Since
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: you know what, I'm all right with it too, Like it's.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as a bound, we had a bit, we've come
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: to the third and I believe unless next week jumps
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: out of us, the final part of our unofficial Mad
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Yank Sport exactly exactly. You know what brought you through
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Power Slap and we brought you through professional bull riding Tom.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: This week, we're going to close it off with a
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: look at the lads and ladies of NASCAR at the
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: bed with this one for a while.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: But I know, I know it's it's we all. We've
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: all seen the you know, the the days of and
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: all the rest of it. Now, I swear to God,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: like I mean, we all.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Know the Indy five hundred, even if we've never clapped,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: we've all seen Ricky Bobby.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: You know Ricky Bobby first or least you know this
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: this sort of thing like and there is like I said,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Americans does the shine in some ways in other ways
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: absolutely fucking brilliant because only they could make and they're incredible,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: and I'd love them to get their hands on a
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: couple other sports just to get give it a big
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: old g up like chess or something like that, you know,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: because they are, unbelieved, the only crowd that could make
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: driving around in a circle, like literally driving around it
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: will say an oval interesting and interesting to the point,
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: did you get quarter of a million people at these races?
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's absolutely astounding to meet hum and and
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: and you're the man to take us through this. But
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: because I just right fucking now realize that NASCAR is
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: in all caps, which means it stands for something.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: It does National Association stock Car.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, national assation. Let me get it right here, National
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Association for Stock Car Auto Race. And so they got
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: to NASK and said, no, we can make mass car either.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Cars there now you know what I mean. You know
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: you don't want to go beyond car at that stage,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Like it's like i'ming a meat thermometer but add not
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: ammeter or something. You're like, no, let's just stop at meat.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: It's fine.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: So we got we got this. I suppose my first
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: question and I'm not gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna let
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: you cook, but I gotta get this question out of
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the way for what makes a car a stock car?
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I suppose you see, they were the idea was that
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: it got They were racing cars years before nast car.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: But it was whatever you run with your brown kind
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: of like the indian not the Indianapolis five hundred. But
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: you know, Monaco did twenty four hour where you can
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: just jump in a jet. You can jump in the jack,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: I can jump in the Ferrari. We're all running. Well,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: it's not the idea meaning is that there are now regulations.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: So now you're all driving a stock car.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Do you get me? Okay? So it is okay, So.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: You can't suddenly turn up with your fucking you know,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: your mellow yellow, but it has a fucking huge wing
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: on the back of it, like like you know what
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: I mean. So the cars are all for all intense
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: purposes kind of the same. It's pretty much, and which
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: is kind of I don't know if there's as a
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: result it's bled into the other type of race, which
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: I mean you've got f one which had little modifications
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: you can make, but mean you're going to get pulled
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: on all sorts like, but it came about as a
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: result of having let's make it fair, let's put them
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: all on the same let's see who's the best driver
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: really rather than who has the best car. If you
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: get me now, it'll still come down to who has
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: the best car, because there'll be you know, you know
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: nothing about you know, did the engines and stuff like that.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: It's a down to the team of mechanics you'll have.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: So this how it came about again classic American nobody
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: nobody posh put this together. It came about a result
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: of Lad's getting really shit hot, like the Dukes of
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Hazard basically from be modifying their their bootlegging their moonshine
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: cars set to out run the Coppers. Like if anybody
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: listens and knows the song Copperfield Road, it briefly tells
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: the story at the top of it as to how
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: NASCAR started, you know, like you know, he was just
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: a shotgun of primer, you know, and he basically stripped
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: the car down water from a you know, Mason's Lodge,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: stripped it all down of all the way realized because
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: these guys were coming back from World War Two, you see,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: so they knew about engines.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: They still did a need for speed.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: To these guys, and they they'd seen they'd seen you know,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: on the they'd seen the theater of war. They didn't
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: give a fuck they were about These fellas were all
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: about theadrenale. No doubt PTSD, Like.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: They had a literal actual need for speed, needed to
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: not get caught by the guards.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And that's where it came about. Like so
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: it was, as I said, like it was founded by
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: a guy called Bill Frantz Senior, and it was built
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: and again built on the premise that they were strictly
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: stock cars, like you weren't these these weren't. There were
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: just modified off the shelf cars like, but we were
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: all running on the same thing, so you weren't dropping
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: like a five point seven into what had previously been
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: at two point two, you know, so we all have
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: to stick to the same thing to see who's the
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: best drivers through there. It just they said, they keep
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: it simple, let's go round the track first, because that's
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: all they ever were back in the day, like when
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: you know, it's never.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Cross country, it was never no figure eight.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Tom no no no. Now to jump forward and the
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: whole story. The thing in recent times, I guess cute enough.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: They probably want to draw in some of that F
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: one audience. You have started putting them on city streets
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. But I don't like you'll get
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: you know, you'll get I suppose what you'll get it'd
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: be more nearly explored.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't certainly wouldn't be.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: The Indy five hundred is now swapped out for driving
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: around fucking Michigan. You know, I said, you know it
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: would be middle in the season. Yeah.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: See this, this is a barrier to entry for a
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: lot of people. The fact that they do just go
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: round and round and round hundreds of times, like it
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: literally is like watching scale extra it is.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: But again, the Americans are unbelievablecause what they'll do is
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: like American football is pure shit right in a lot
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: of ways, versus say, take yourself out of your whatever
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: your opinion of is of sports is right now versus
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: let's say the nearest closest thing rugby like it is
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: auter shite in comparison, both the marketing and hype is phenomenal.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: And Americans are unbelievable, you know, so they they.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I suppose if that's what you've been brought up with
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: and cooking.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: I went, I went to NASCAR race. We went to
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: one in Charlotte, and like that we were in I
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: won't call it in those bleeds, but like you know,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: you were a fair way back. But the sound of
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: the things to divide. People were cooking their own grub,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: their own fucking grub. The wow wow, next thing is
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: spin a crash And you're like, like, it's it's real simple,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Tell me this much time. Okay. So we've got our
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: stock cars, we've got our roval circle, and we've got
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: like a league. So the NASCAR is the stock car races.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: NASCAR is the UFC of the whole thing, but the
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: granddaddy of them all. So I'm an American, you are, howdy?
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: How do I rock up to the I rock up
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: to the what what do you even call it? The circuit?
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: The dome?
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: It's yeah, I mean the speedway.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: We call it the speed speedway. Yeah, okay, that's good.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: They do like they like they like to really keep
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: things simple, you know what I mean. It's a speedy way,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: all right. You know, like the sidewalk is in the footpath,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: it's it's it's to the side and you walk on.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: The Americans like to keep it simple. Jar.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: So I rock up of a Sunday with with my
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: beers and all this kind of my beers and my
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: buds and my bros. And I rock up and I
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: sit down to watch the stock car race, What do
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I see? Do I see qualifying? Do I see or
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: is it set out already? Was there qualifying the day before?
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Like normally normally the day before? From what I can tell,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: it's it's normally the day before. Now I'm sure you're
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: allowed into qualifying as well, but there's probably a bit
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: of pricking in that, and I'd say only the die
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: hard fans would want to be there for quality as
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: they call it, like I imagine. So it's again, it's
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: it's exact same if you imagine formerly one you're dotted
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: throughout the track. There's turkey drivers dot it all the
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: way back along the track. I suppose what NASCAR does
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: that if one probably doesn't. The differences is you're really
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: working off aerodynamics and aero mechanics is what you really
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: work because you're in such a tight spot. You have
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: very little corners. You've got two corners to worry about,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: so not a lot of opportunity for cutting inside or
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: cutting to the high side like you wouldn't f one.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: You might have turkey bends like in Silverstone, you know
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: what I mean, or the ring makeup or lose speed
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: exactly yeah, you go, well, he's not strong on those
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: and they fucked up under tires and those you know,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: get them, get them, get them, and you can get
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: after him. Like, but you really have to understand aero
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: mechanics when you're doing NASCAR race. They have caught out
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: in the days of thunder stuff. We're going if you
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: ain't Rubin is raising coal. Yeah, the days of that,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I will fucking carry on have more or less done
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: because back like back the ear late nineties, early two thousands,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: it was fure madness, you know what I mean, laz
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: We' getting absolute t bone left, right and center. And
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: it wasn't until the death of the Intimidator himself, Dale Earnhardt,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: who I think he'd like fucking seventy six championship races,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: do you know? But a great name like Dale Earnhardt,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: like Earnhardt, and he was known that he was literally
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: known as the Intimidator because he was the most nastiest
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: bastard on the track, Like he just fucking hell, he'd
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: be all over you.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: We'll come back to the Earnhardt family now in a week.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Second time. So I'm sitting there with Manacho's and beer
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: and this two kicks off? How many laps? Am I am?
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I am I looking at? How long am I going
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: to be here? Is this like a narrow is this
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: five you're going to.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Be looking at about three to four hours between stock
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: a style like the stoppages and stuff for the odd crash.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: And things like that.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: It could be anything. It could be up to four hours.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Americans love a fuck. I think that was on for
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: four hours, Like don't just because they know they'll milk
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: the hole out of it, like you know, it's and
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: they have the population to stick around. You know, each
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: each big city will have the population. Like if that
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: was here. Sure, if Monahan were playing Kerry and you
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: are four hours in Dublin, she'd have to leave it
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: half time, like if you work next day, you know
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: what I mean, wrap it up, wrap it up to fuck?
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: You know you could there isn't the dynamics aren't there
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: for it, so they can they can run that long.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Now I think so are smaller. But if you go
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: to the Indy five hundred guests, how many laps there on?
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have to tell me, I can't stab it.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: It's five hundred laps here? How many five hundred laps.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I was going to say two hundred, but I guess
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: the Indy five hundred is five hundred.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I'm just thrown it out there there. Yeah, I give
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: you a bit of a due diligence earlier in.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: A bit of a softball on that one.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Softball on that one.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: But with the older he's on the lapse.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You think like with the
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: you know, like the like in the twenty four elem
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: months and stuff like that, you can actually change driver
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: halfway like you know, you think I get a crack
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: of nahn? How would you go? Stay out there?
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ? Now, so Tom, Tom tell me this much
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: of time anymore like we did with our other examples
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: of of of wacky American sports in this trilogy. Although
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: we couldn't really pick many stars out of powers Lap,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: but one guy and he's got like a kid and
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: play a haircut. It seems to show up every now
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: and then, and the stars of the PBR. He talked
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: us through last week. Who am I looking out for
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: in the world of Nascar? And I understand you just
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: said Dale Earnhardt. Now that's not Dale Earnhardt Junior, right.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: No, even Dr Ernhard Junior, who was a colossal driver himself.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: He even he's retired now at this stage, so he's
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: he's in the past. There's a bunch of guys right
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: now at the top. If you all have abs loose
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: h Nascar driving names, you know what I mean? There
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: is they like, I'm just gonna run through the top
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: top three. I'll give you the top six right now.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: So Tyler Reddick, that's how good is that name as
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: a brand? That Denny Hamlin, he comes Donny Ryan Blaney.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Could you know he could easily playing for for Cavin Ye.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: But then again, we we got Chase Elliott coming up.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Chase Elliott. That's nominative determinism. You joke me.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I swear to God, Chase Elliott. It was written on
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: his firth. It was never going to be a plumber, no, no,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: ty Gibbs. Up next, you got Kyle Larson who got
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: a dang good night. He got Christopher Belle. There's a
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: couple of others. Then you've got like Brad's Kislowski, Joey Logano.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: That lot of you're kind of getting into the into
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: the operationalans of it here, and it doesn't it would
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: seem lads would dare I say it either Irish?
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Are well?
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: This was my Irish?
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: The next question, Yeah.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: There's a bit Irish, but there's also you know, you know,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: there's probably a bit of German in a lot of
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: these lads who ended up in I would let's say
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: the Southern States, as did a lot of our ancestors
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: ended up in the Blue Ridge Mountains. You know, that's
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: where they ended up, really in those places. So this
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: is where and criminality probably wouldn't beyond a lot of
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: these lads in there, you know, in their jeen pool
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: where you started. So we may as well just called
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: a spade a spade, like you know.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: What crime I you's got over here? Lads?
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: What is up? Because I'm very good at it?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: So that's my next question, Tom, is are there any
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: international NASCAR drivers? Like does anybody come over from France
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: to be a hot shot in the in the world
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: of Nascar? Nobody you get?
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, what's his christ?
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: You had to pull me?
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: He had an Italian sounding name. He played, he did,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: he played, he did Indy car, which is like a
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: NASCAR track, but you're driving a form the one car
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: if you get me, so it's a bit quicker into
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: the corners and stuff like that. Christ, it's not Mario
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: and it was Mario Andretti. Yes, thank you, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Danica Patrick one of the only women who was a
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: successful driver a certified smoke show too, by the way, as.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I said, and I know that, I know that lady.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, she and a very cool commentator, like she's class,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: she's really good on the mic. She was also an
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Indy car and I think they were trying to get
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: her into F one, but I think it's a stretch
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: too far if you haven't done. If you haven't, I
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: think if you haven't, you could probably transfer from NASCAR
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: or from F one to NASCAR. But I don't ever
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: seeing it going the other way, because if you haven't
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: come up on them formerly two thousands, the the go
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: carton side of things, if you haven't come through those
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: single seaters before, like you're in trouble. Like I can't
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: see it going it could go the other way. But
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: now she did in the car and was successful in
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: in the car, and came across to NASCAR and was
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: successful there to a degree. But I think it was
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: even too late in her career even to switch over
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: into NASCAR. But yeah, she Be and Mari Andretti is
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: the only one I ever heard of.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, like you know names like that. If they've
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: made it over the pond, obviously they've been very good.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: There's one last lot I want to ask you about
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Tom in the pantheons of this these lads of of
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: the of the of the NASCAR world, and it's a
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: guy called Andy Djankovic. Djankovic And I don't know nothing
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: about this world Tom, but if it, if it busts
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: through my algorithm. He is the guy who was way
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: back in the pack on the last, our second, the
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: last lap of some big NASCAR race, and he said
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: to his picture crew over the radio, I'm going for it.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not lifting my foot until I see God or
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: the checkered for yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I employed
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: a technique which I would have thought was commonplace in
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: the world of NASCAR, which is to let go of
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: the wheel, let the car rub against the wall and
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: just fucking floor the boot and the whole side of
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: the car gets tore off. But you are the fastest
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: man on the track. And he busts himself all the
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: way up from from thirty eight to I think he
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: came back and finished that like second or third, but
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: it was qualified. He was qualified for the next race.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: He was just like, I'm going for it. It was.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: It was so successful but so absolutely reckless that NASCAR
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: had to immediately implement a ban on this maneuver. Ever, again,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: the only reason they hadn't a ban on it in
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: the first place is because they truly believe nobody would
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: be fucking crazy enough to do it.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, but again, Americans your point, But America, Yeah,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's been any amount they make. They
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: make legends of these guys like because they they're unbelieved
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: that doing a whole like they'll create a whole channel
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: that just talks about the backstory of all these you know,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: like Jeff Gordon has showed up in movies like he's
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: had like nearly a hundred wins and absolutely looks like
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: he used to be a NASCAR you know, there's a
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: and they all end up with nicknames like there was
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: the Silver Fox. David Pearson normally enough a fella, but
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: again I think he's he's nearly second that ever did it.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Jimmy Johnson in the modern era, he he dominated the
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: mid two thousands. They learned her junior again was the
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: intimidated and probably his career would have went a bit
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: further had he not died on the track.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Is Dale earn Hart junior dead?
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: They learned her junior is alive and has a very
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: successful podcast. Not so much not so much, no, but
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: the greatest of them all, and I think everybody probably
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: will have seen this guy at some stage was Richard
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: pretty otherwise known as the King, and nobody will ever
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: ever beat like he has two hundred Cup series and
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: seven championships. Now, I mean there's other lads with more
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: championships and stuff like that, but like to have two
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: hundred cup number one podium finishes like you're going.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: And he looks the part.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: He wears a big old, you know, cowboy hat with
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: like Native American stuff on it. He's got the whitest teeth,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: he's had a bit of what had a bit of
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: work done, I think, and he's just they roll him out,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: you know, super Sunday every fucking year, and if he
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: has an opinion to be to be said, people are
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: listening because he's Richard the King petty like you know
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: what I mean.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you as much, Tom there was a
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: time when you couldn't pay me to sit down and
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: watch four hours of fucking anything. But as I roll
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: on into my increasing years, the thoughts of kicking back
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: on a nice, hot sunny day in Indianapolis with the
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: created cold beers and just watching cars go room hugely
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: appeals to me.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Buddy, I I and and the kind of backstories that
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: somebodys have, and I we we can we pull into
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: the pits after this one, right, But there was a
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: guy and a message about him, and I don't know
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: if we'll we probably won't get a chance to ever
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: dedicate a full a full show to him or anything
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: like that or but as a guy that both of
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: us I think could have an affection to is called
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Don Trickle or Dick Trickle, right, which, guessing Cole Trickle's name,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Cold Trickle wasn't based on this guy, It was kind of.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: It was loosely based on another two drivers him and
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: and and Roddie watch McAll at that time, So Dick
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: Trickle was. I know, it sounds like we're going back
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: to the Colking story now, but Dick Trickle was an
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: unbelievable pit mechanic, but also raised in the lower leagues
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: for years and was the sort of fucking animal that could.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: He'd literally drive the race car to another race through
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: the night to get there, like all around the country
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: with the people loved him.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: He twelve round the fucking races.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I think he's literally the most winningest driver ever in
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: any form of stock car raising because he just drove
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: all over the country just winning races, just showing up,
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: filling the backup the petrop because he was such a
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: phenomenal mechanic himself that he'd know what the car is doing.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: He was like as an injurcer, I'm going I got
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: you know, I gotta.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Give in injury. He was incredible.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: He didn't actually get into the senior leagues, the top
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: league of NASCAR Pro NASCAR, until he was forty seven.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: For the time, this is what this is why there's
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: an affection for this guy and people love him because
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: he looks like your granddad, right yeah, but your American granddad.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: He's got lovely white teeth.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: He's sitting in like he and he races to his
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: in NASCAR, in fucking Nascar, and this guy he was
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: known just as being an aboslute animal like a horse
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: for work like even NASCAR like, he would build his
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: own cards, he'd build his own engines, and he's racing,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: you know, and he's got he's got big sponsorship. Because
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: of course, they make so much about this guy because
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: he's how everybody loves him, because he's the.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: You know, character so many he's the character.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: He's a forty seven year old going up against twenty
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: two to twenty three year olds who are wet behind
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: the years, and this guy is. And he was sponsored
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: by Miller, you know what I mean, so he had
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: some heat behind him, he did. They love this guy right. Well,
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: The reason why I'm telling you about him isn't just
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: that he was middle aged when he got into the
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: senior leagues and won a few, won a good few racests,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: but never a championship, I don't believe. But he was
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: he was fond of tobacco products, if you know what,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: because he's his goddamn American and he's goddamn right to have,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: you know, an American spin spirit hanging out of his
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: lip when every you say, have one. And then when
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I said, the racist jar to be three to four
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: hours long.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Long time ago without a cigarette, Tom.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: He would at two hundred miles an hour. He had
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: drilled a hole in his visor and he would slip
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: in a fang and lightened up one handed horsen this
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: car around the fucking bend at two hundred miles an hour.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Why racing smoking fags? This went on for months before
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: they actually clocked it.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Now how I can't understand it? Was you not just
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: blowing smoke into the visor that he's now blinded himself.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I listened, he worked out a wager. Maybe he had
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: another hole on the other side.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: I don't life finds a way, Tom, but.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: The fag anyway, he had the whole perfectly drilled right,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: and he would light it up through. I don't know
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: why he bothered with a fucking visor that stage and
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: just but on that stage.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he when they did.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: When the when the pit crew, when the bosses found
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: out about like the you know, the the company boss
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: found out about it, they said, all right, fucking madness.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Now doing this during a race, When does the yellow
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: flag out or you know, because it would be sometimes
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: if did debris on the track, or there's somebody that
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: there's been a crash, or you're you know, you've been
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: slowed down for whatever reason. You can have an out
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: smoke then, but you're not smoking twenty figs out there now,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: you're not smoking a full fucking box, which he was
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: probably going through.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: He's probably going through.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: It was horse and fags, and that was the story
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: of my favorite driver, Dick Trickle, purely based on the
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: fact that he was goddamn American guy.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Damn. Well, listen, there you go, folks, a wonderful pit
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: stop in the world of Nascar. We're going to rock
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: and roll and finish up this show, Tom and and
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: drill holes in our own riders. How about that. Nice.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: We'll get through it, folks. As we all know, we
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: finish up the show with a little segment where we
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: look back over me and Tom's forty plus years of
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: experience on this goddamn rock and the crazy shit that
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: we have encountered. You know what this segment is called, folks,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: It's called we remember when when I was a young
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: lad twenty or third or forty years ago.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm just gonna lean out of shot here, Jurgists.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: That's come on, motherfucker. That's that's not right.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: It didn't get my money at the weekend. It didn't
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: get my money at the weekend. But the Michael Jackson
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: biopic has just landed and has become one of the
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: most successful musical biopics of all time?
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Has it? Has it? Like? Because didn't they do a few?
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Hasn't there been a few?
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: The previous top grossing one was the one for Queen
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, and this like made double
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: the money. It made two hundred and twenty million dollars
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: in one weekend.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: I saw. I went to the Queen one, all right
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: because I was a fan of that actor from Mister Robot,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: and to be fair, he fucking smashed it. And they
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: tend to pick the right actors, Like I was gonna say,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: day Eedgriton, It isn't day Edgerton. What's his name? That
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: played Elton John? That's close enough.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I was supermarket sweep, wasn't he dal Winton?
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Sorry Racolis this weekend? You fucking joke with me? But
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: the and they tend to smash it, And so I've
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: seen only very fast nippets on like YouTube YouTube ads
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: at the beginning when you were inevitably will skip, do
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: you know? But I I piqued my interest. I was like, ah,
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: because I saw headlines popping up going the best that
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: has ever been done to do MG like, so you
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: know it could be well worked, you know, watching it
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: when it comes out to Netflix.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: But you know what we're gonna say, Tom, you and
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I don't need to sit down and watch a biopic
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: of Michael Jackson to learn his story, because you and me, brother,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: we were there for not all of it, but quite
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of it. Because we were, as we've said
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: many times before, children of the eighties, and Michael Jackson
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: was bigger in the eighties than Jesus Christ himself. I
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: want to ask you now, Tom, o'many for the close
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: of the Tom and Jerry Show. For the next five
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: to seven minutes, what do you remember about Michael Jackson?
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: I did. Don't just dive into for the dear buddy,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Let's go in and you encounter this man first.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: So I was invited to a party in his hat.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I got real sick as a kid, and it just
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: got fucking war from there.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I really really, I have vivid memories
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: of I don't know, I said, memories, vivid memories of
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: the bad video.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah that was.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: That was right around where my memories were starting to form.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I exactly. Yeah, we were understanding on the young side.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: For well, Triller came out and I think like eighty two,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: so I was only like a baby.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: I know, I can I know of it, and I thought,
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: but it has no deep you know. But Bad was
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: right there.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Right in the wheelhouse. I would have been about seven,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: maybe eight, and you would have been about seven as well,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: So that's just about the right height for yes, yeah, yeah,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: so that's according to Land.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: And again you just kind of accepted the kind of madness,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: like you're leaping around the car park and he's wearing
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: whatever he wanted, you know, ripped yolks and a I
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: mean leathers, packer jackets must have sold, like fuck it.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Like the guy, it didn't matter what he did, because
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: this was It wasn't even that he was cool. It
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: was all encompassing. Everything about him was like what, it's
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Michael Jackson. He's the only thing right now, that's it?
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: That is it. I mean, like, Michael Jackson comes out
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: with bad and that would have been my fortune experience
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: of him. We're not going to go chapter in first
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: with Michael Jackson's life, Ladies and gentlemen, It's Michael, Michael
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: fucking Jackson. But to tell you to be seven years
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: of age, and Michael Jackson comes out with Bad and
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: he's dressed as Thoma says, they are closely rising, thinking
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Michael Jackson, that's Michael Jackson. Yeah, Like as far as
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I was concerned, like he wore black leathers, like Superman
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: wears a Superman suit. That's just the Michael Jackson suit.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: And I'll be honest with you, Jar, I've still no
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: full idea as to what the sound bad is about.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: No, and that isn't.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: That is most of them, actually most of the sounds
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: and don't.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: That's what I want to say, because like you know,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: round about I'm seven years of age. What the hell
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: have I been listening to up at the list point?
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Just just you know, it's up the country. We're listening
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: to the four Country Roads and you know what I mean,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: and a bit of country in Western whatever comes on
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: on the radio, cousins might have a couple in it.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: That's what I call music tips. And you know your
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: bon Jovi's, yeah, your guns and Roses and that's coming
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: through at the time. And Michael Jackson comes out singing bad,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: and I swear to God for a start. I'm not
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: entirely certain as a seven year old child that he's
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: speaking English.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: That's exactly I wasn't, But do you know what, because
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: he was so cool and so all compassing, I think
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: it was okay because it was nearly like any do
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: you remember like any? Just we're just dandering right the way.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: There were all elvish words that she invented herself, this
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: kind of.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Thing, and and everybody just nobody questioned it. It was like
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Michael Jackson says, then that's that's just like and some
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: of them he's actually saying, come on, but he's saying it, like,
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: you know, with an affectation, so it sounds like mountain.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Nobody was explaining that to me at seven years of age.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: So I I further crack. I've never done this in
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: my life, but I've just gotten up. So Quincy Jones
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: helped produce it and help, so man, is.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: This done?
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: I may as well. I could tell you these lyrics
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: now there, and none of them are gonna make sense
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: at all. Though The opening line is, ah, your bought
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: is mine? Gonna tell you right?
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: What's mine?
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just show your face broad daylight.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you you really just show your face in
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: broad daylight. That's fine. But Michael, like.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Bees, I'm telling you you on the feel gonna hurt
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: you mad, don't shoot the kill. Literally it's written in here.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: This isn't for.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: This is the word yeah an, I'm looking at it
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: right here.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: This is the ramblings of a fucking out of their
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: mind person like like this was laid in front of
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: him and he went, yeah, I get it, all right.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: I'm giving you a counter three out to show your
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: stuff and let it be and tell you just to
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: watch your mouth. I know your game.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing now for nineteen eighty seven, for
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: the Bad album dropping Tom Like this is there, this
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: is this is probably one of our first instances of
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: being exposed to like mass media bombardment, because it was
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: on every channel, newspapers all over the place. There was
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Michael Jackson's new album Bad, But there was also a
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: release there or thereabouts of Michael Jackson's Moonwalker movie, which
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: if you ever had the misfortunate to sit down to
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: watch it, it's just trocious. It's five music videos tied together
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: by not much of a story. He walks out of
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: one video and then he walks into smooth criminal and
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: leans all over the place. Again as a child, I
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: must be said two things on one tie and number
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: one never seen in like four or sins just just
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: completely fucking will blow your mind and people turn around,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: go yes, he borrowed a lot of stuff heavily from
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: such and such and this and that. I was like, well,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: there was none of that on TV and monitor in
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: the eighties at tire and as we were concerned, Michael
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Jackson invented all this number two and this is it.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure I liked it all that much.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure I liked it all that much either.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: I like the allure I got. I kind of got
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: the allure because he was so dominant, But like I
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: had for all intense support for what I give a
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: fuck about music at the time, because I didn't really,
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: if I'm honest, I had more time for what Prince
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: was doing. Do you know what it made he Those
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: were songs and I understood words. I didn't know anything
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: about lover or I didn't know about getting in a
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: fighter being a motherfucker. I didn't know, but there were words.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what it is for Michael Jackson,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: here's the crack. I felt with Michael Jackson, he was
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: all By the time Bad came out, he was already
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: being ridiculed for the exaggerated movements that grabbing his crotch,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: the fucking moonwalk, and nobody was slagging the moonwalk, but
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: you were trying to do it at school, and like
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: you know, it was like just kind of I'm pretending
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: to be Michael Jackson. Yeah, he'd become of the time.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: And and I feel if we'd have been there for Thriller,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: we'd be like, oh, man, know, this is new and
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: this is cool and this is all manners and stuff.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: But by the time Bad came around, he was already
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: getting slagged in the tabloids, not as much as he
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: would beat them. I'll tell you.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: That it was coming down.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Like it was just like it wasn't even even if
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: you were watching comedy shows or like Hail and Pace
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: or whatever. It would be they speaking images where I
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: saw him show an image, there will be parodying Michael Jackson.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: And and that was fair game as far as I
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: was concerned, because I thought, well.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if he's not cool, then I guess he's not cool.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: I like some of the songs just fine, but the
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: whole gimmick of it just seems to be not my
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: cup of tea. No, he was.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: He was a character in himself, Like, sure, that's that's
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: what a fellow's going to develop into, you know what
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: I mean with these child stars all turned weird, like
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: should be all turned weird if they like. He was
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: at his coolest when he was about seven, you know,
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: when he was singing Rocky Robin. He was at his
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: coolest then. And then it all kind of peter down
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: and got weirder and upon weirder upon weirder after that,
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: do you know, as the surgeries happened.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: And I'll be and I'll be honest with you, Tom,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of outing myself as a bit of an
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: idiot here, but I was embarrassingly old when I realized
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: that Michael Jackson and the Jackson Five were the same people.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: I am not a mediami a singing Rocky Robin. Holy shit,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: he was the candles mpared the kickery.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: That Michael Jackson you knew, is just a Protestant from
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: some part of Belfast.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: When when when I was like, oh shit, ABC, that's
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: my never never put together. How are you. Now, after
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: after Bad came fucking worsh buddy, because he released the
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Dangerous album in the early nineties. Now, I was the
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: right height for this. I was about eleven twelve. You'd
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: have been there as well. And he comes out with
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: black or White, and he has When we say this
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: man has a checkered past, Tom, that is because he
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: literally has a checkered past. The first half of it
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: he is a black man. The same half of it
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: he's a white man.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I suppose he is a checkered to give him.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: I think I probably at the time of it, you
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: wouldn't feel that you slagged the blow because I mean,
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: if you were friends in him, you'd absolutely slang him
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: for that song. You go like, you guess God, but
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: I guess he can. I mean, he wasn't talking about it.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: He wasnt supposedly talking about himself. He's talking about you know,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: racial quality and stuff. But you're like, yeah, you had
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: It's why it's not ampytago. What's it called the thing?
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, like the big noise about Michael Jackson
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: at the time was that he was a plastic surgery and.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: He was bleaching his skin and he was he was.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Bleaching his skin purposely to become a white person. Yeah.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: What we found out later on was that he had
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: a skin condition called vidgo. It's like that's it which
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: which which turns the skin pigmy white? And that's that's
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: commonly known and widespread at the time. And Michael Jackson
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: didn't owe anybody an explanation at the time. That was
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: that was his business. He didn't have to go out
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: and say, well, I've got vidle igo and it's this, this,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: this and this, But saying nothing about it meant that
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: everybody just kind of went, this, son of a bitch
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: is dying himself white.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: And you know, it was in a time too, for
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: the want of a better way of looking at it,
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: poken things that racial people's race was a team.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Do you know. I mean if you think the tablet
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: newspapers are vicious now folks, oh boy, wait, do you
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: see what they were like in the night? Came out
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Michael Jackson hard and not for nothing as well. Tom
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: here's the thing, a something that we have danced about
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: here now for the last five ten minutes. We'll just
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: may as well see it here now. Michael Jackson, who's
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: a fucking weirdo. Oh every story you heard about him
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: just was stranger and stranger. He has a pet chimp
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: called Bubbles, all right, okay, and he lives in a
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: theme park okay, sleep sleeps in the oxygen time and
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: oxygen How much? Has married Elvis Presley's daughter? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: I mean it just kept coming it did, it really did?
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: And then the kids who By the way, have you
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: seen his daughter? She's an amazing folk singer. You're alien
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: folks singer. She's fucking It's not that she wants to
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: shake off the whole notion of who she she is,
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: but she plays small little festivals and stuff like that.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: He might be singer, which kills me in one way
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: when I think, because it hit me like a ton
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: of bricks when I actually saw that girl, because I went,
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: I wonder if Michael had been left his own devices
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: and hadn't you know, Joe Jackson beat the live and
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: fuck out all five of them, you know what I mean,
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: to get up on that fucking stage. If he was
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: left his own devices and curated with a bit more
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: of a gentle fucking approach, how what would he end up?
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: Would he ended up just a fine singer like.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he'd been left alone, would he
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: be just one of the finest plumbers in America who
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: sings at the weekend.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: But he could have been the next line of Richie
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: you don't know like and.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Hard to say. So here's another thing we lived through,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Michael Jackson, Tom we lived through the first of many
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: many bits of allegations of impropriety towards children. Yes, they
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: came in like we you know, if you think about
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: the age that that came in, that Michael Jackson was
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: molested in children, what was going on in Ireland and
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: been revealed about the Catholic run about the same time,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: that was a big fucking summer for us.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: Now, so to be fair, that stuff is still coming out,
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: like you know what I mean that that hasn't gone away,
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: those things from you know, people from the public eye
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: and stuff. But it was and he he never it became.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: It was a weird thing because prior to that he
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: hadn't heard it lay the finger at anybody, do you
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Nobody had. It wasn't say, like
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: some prey that nobody liked. But suddenly it was this
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: hero of pop, the king of pop, and vehemently denied it.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Now Macaulay culch can still have heard interviews or eym no,
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: I never saw a bit of that now who knows,
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: We don't fucking know. But it was his music, is
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: I put it this way? His music is still played
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: on the radio.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Do you know he hasn't been completely canceled with like
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: your your Gary Glitters and your and your whatnot. Even
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: at the absolute best reading of it, if you're giving
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Michael Jackson the absolute benefit of.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: The dort, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Even he from his own mouth on TV admitted that
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: as a forty some odd year old man, he would
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: take a bunch of kids the Neverland Ranch and they
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: would all sleep together in the same bed, six and
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: seven year old boys and girls.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: I try to reason with that when like that Martin
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: Bashier interview came out and I tried to reason with it,
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: gone what the fuck? And then you I would try
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: and I'm trying. I'm gone, okay, dude, okay, let's say
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: you're so mentally fucked up that you actually haven't developed
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: yourself since the age of seven and you just want
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: to hang out with what you think.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Are your peers.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Yes, I get it, but dude, at some point when
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: in your old hands with your fucking adult wife, did
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: you think maybe what you were up to, Oh yeah,
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: that's a little off color. All right, that's a bit offside.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: I didn't do anything, but I should definitely keep him
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: out shot when it comes to being interviewed by fucking
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Mark Martin Bashier, do you know, like if he did, like,
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: that's that's really that in one way, that's nearly we have.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: Nobody has any idea. It's completely inappropriate what he was at.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: But if he did nothing, it's still.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Fucks still fucking weird.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: And what's weirder is that nobody pulled them aside early
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: doors and went here here not a good look, Mike,
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: Not a good look, Mike. Get them fucking youngsters back downstairs.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Don't be at that ship at all, like and and
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: and just.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Asked like we watched the documentaries and and and the
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: interview series with Michael Jackson and all this kind of thing,
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: where like as Tom says, there interviewers looking dead in
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: the eyes and said that Michael, yeah, you've had your
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: brushes with the law down through the years. Now you
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: don't still sleep in bed with children, right, And Michael
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Jackson would just look dead in the eye and go,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: can you tell me what's wrong with that? Why shouldn't I? Yeah,
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: can anyone tell me what crime is being committed here?
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: And it's like yes, but Michael appreciate it as a
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: forty some year old man, you shouldn't he Jackson was
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: up the steps, as we say in man, and he
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: was up the steps several times on the he was
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: and he got through on each of them. He was
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: not found guilty on any of them by my reader.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: It but fucking still still still scan just carry on
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, there's there's nobody. You know,
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: there's there's nobody, and I mean parents after the fact,
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: but I've you know, you wonder if some parents going, Okay,
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: I get I get it, But at what point do
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: you leave? Even if he is dicking a pop? You
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: leave your kid over to Michael Jackson's house and you
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: just walk away? Do you you just walk away?
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Plan you go to the Make a Wish Kid and
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: say make another wish kid? Yeah?
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's something else, buddy, Like this isn't
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: the fucking kennels, you know where you leave the jog
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: in and hope for the best, like and hope he
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: doesn't pick up a cough like, this is Michael Jackson.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: This is a men's house. Regardless it's a man's house
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: It is a groom glass man's house with a with
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: a history awareness time. We could talk all night about
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Michael Jackson Jackson dangling babies off balconies. We could talk
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: about his fucking slide into relative obscurity with his last
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: couple of albums and then his inevitable and tragic question
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: mark death which was about sixteen or seventeen years ago,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: where he just like, you know, one night, just fucking
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: completely just drop dead while his uh fucking tranquilizer.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: Your man, the doctor had him on tranquilizer to sort
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: of finished, like he was just you know.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, he was literally being knocked out
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: like you'd knock out a patient for surgery and ready
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: for bed, mister Jackson. Yes, okay, three two to one.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: I mean the club just press a button that shoots
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: fucking adrenaline. He met up his brains.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: And when I heard that, when they were like yeah,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: they literally put him under for sleep, I was like
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: kind of going, yeah, I can Yeah, that doesn't that
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: bad actually we're going to sleep solidly for eight hours.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: No tossing and turning, No tossing and turning, no, none
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Carry on sitting bolt upright, wonder what you know?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: A crack and dribble off the side of my face
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: because you know, no, you just sleep And I kind
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: of got it. And then you're like, oh, you have
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: a doctor to.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Just wake you up in another drugs, just come in
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: and wake you up like in an alarm. I'll just
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: like shoot you full of God knows what that was.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: That that was the sad life of Michael Jackson as
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: we lived it. Mike, buddy, Uh, what happened to you
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: as a child was in your fault, but how you
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: acted as an adult was your responsibility. Thanks for the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: music that we kind of liked, I suppose.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: And to be fair, it was the problem for me
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: was the guds and roses and Banjovian stuff around. We're
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: around at the time, like, so are a c DC.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: You're like, I don't know.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: The best to look going into going into Black Staff
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: National School when everybody's pumping out of the a c
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: DC and roses and turn around, actually do what fan
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: of Michael Jackson that way he just grabs his dick
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: all the time. Yeah, I can't get enough of that.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Do you know what?
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: It was definitely around here he was too soft. It's
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: too soft, and he it's come out with a sound dead.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: I don't think.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know about that. Even that that was like,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: you know, that should not his children, like, you know,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: he's bad by that he means good. My fondle lobe
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: hasn't developed enough to fucking know what.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: Shut up, explain the lyrics to me, any adult, any
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: adult explained, No, we're done there.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: He's bad. He's a bad guy. And then, like you know,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: later on in life, we will come to find out,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: you know what, Maybe he was Tom. We want to
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: hear from our listeners of the Tom and Jerry Show.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe we're all out of out of line. We're all
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: out of line when it comes to Michael Jackson. Maybe
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe we got wrong. Maybe where ship heads, Tom,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: you can let us know all these things on our
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: social media channels. All the Tom and Jerry's is coming
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: through the Instagram page there at Tom and Jerry Show,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Tom with Jerry with a g I'm sure you'll find
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: us on our various other channels as well, but that
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: is where you'll get us for that. You can leave
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: lovely comments on the Spotify, such as Glenn who dropped
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: a comment there to say, best way to end the
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: day with the boys, Tom and Jerry. Thank you very
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: much for that, Glenn. That's the best way to start
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: to day. I dare say good at any time of
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: the day.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Did I sent you on as well? Yeah, of course
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: do please. Like Jerry said on Spotify, if you do,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: hit the follow button as well as the little bell
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: that will make it activate every single Thursday morning at
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  Speaker 3: five am, I sent you on. I got corrected by
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  Speaker 3: a couple of people. I got corrected in Longford, which
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  Speaker 3: will leave it at the weekend for you.
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  Speaker 2: Tom.
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  Speaker 3: No, it was a lovely, lovely gig in the backstage
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  Speaker 3: theater and a woman Mave came over. She's a big
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  Speaker 3: fan of the show, and she went, I know the
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  Speaker 3: book you were talking about, and that's why I left
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  Speaker 3: you a voice note. Yes, it was the book about
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  Speaker 3: the PBR, which was really fun read and it's actually
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  Speaker 3: if anybody was going, I'm looking for this fucking book
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  Speaker 3: and I can't find that. Fried Twinkies, buckle Bunnies and
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  Speaker 3: bull riders a year in the PBR, So buckle bunny
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  Speaker 3: has been you can guess what bucket bunnies know exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So okay, how about that? Did you ask to do everything?
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  Speaker 3: Now? I think we did, but she looked they know
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  Speaker 3: what to do with this. If you wouldn't mind rating
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  Speaker 3: as well, you have keep as hard solid at a
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  Speaker 3: five star, Jerr, send us an picture your cock, would you?
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  Speaker 2: That was That was one of the key the key
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  Speaker 2: pieces of evidence in the Michael Jackson all right, good,
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  Speaker 2: we'll go on. Good luck,