Latest / DISGRACELAND / Taylor Swift: Interstate Stalking, Vanishing Masters, and Love Letters Gone Wrong
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, disc goes welcome in. We've got a great
- 0:02Speaker 1: rewind episode for you all this week. This was originally
- 0:05Speaker 1: released back on January eleventh, twenty twenty two. It's our
- 0:09Speaker 1: Taylor Swift episode, and it caused a bit of a stir.
- 0:13Speaker 1: The New York Post ended up writing about it, but
- 0:16Speaker 1: I think that had more to do with just how
- 0:18Speaker 1: insane this story actually is, rather than the way in
- 0:22Speaker 1: which we told it. It's a living true crime nightmare.
- 0:26Speaker 1: What Taylor Swift has had to endure in the face
- 0:28Speaker 1: of her stalkers. It's downright terrifying, and sure, yeah, I
- 0:32Speaker 1: get it. Some might say, well, that's the price one
- 0:35Speaker 1: has to pay for that sort of fame, but we're
- 0:38Speaker 1: all human and having to live with the constant threat
- 0:41Speaker 1: of your home being invaded, abduction, or worse, that is
- 0:45Speaker 1: not a fate that I would wish on anyone, not
- 0:47Speaker 1: even my own worst enemy, never mind a pop star. Anyway,
- 0:50Speaker 1: check out this classic rewind episode of Disgraceland on Taylor
- 0:54Speaker 1: Swift and let us know what you think. Six one
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- 1:07Speaker 2: Rolla this episode contains content that may be disturbing to some.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Listeners please check the show notes for more. Information disgraceland
- 1:16Speaker 2: is a production Of Double. Elvis the stories About Taylor
- 1:32Speaker 2: swift are. Insane she has a laundry list of stalkers
- 1:36Speaker 2: nearly as long as her list of hit. Singles one
- 1:40Speaker 2: stalker sent more than forty love letters and detailed death
- 1:43Speaker 2: threats to her record label on three separate. Occasions that
- 1:48Speaker 2: same stalker drove nine hundred miles to hand deliver. Them
- 1:52Speaker 2: another invaded Her New york, home used her shower it
- 1:56Speaker 2: was found waiting For taylor in her. Bed thereat on
- 2:00Speaker 2: her life have become so persistent that her security team
- 2:04Speaker 2: installed facial recognition software at the venue she performed in
- 2:08Speaker 2: specifically to distinguish her stalkers from her. Fans and while
- 2:13Speaker 2: all this deadly fanfare was in full, tilt she lost
- 2:17Speaker 2: the legal rights to the master recordings of her first six,
- 2:20Speaker 2: albums effectively stripping her of her life's work to that.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Point but despite all of, this or perhaps in spite
- 2:29Speaker 2: of all of, This Taylor swift made and continues to
- 2:32Speaker 2: make great. Music that MUSIC i played for you at
- 2:36Speaker 2: the top of the show that wasn't great. Music that
- 2:39Speaker 2: was a preset loop from my melotron Called Cheeky TIKI Mk.
- 2:44Speaker 2: ONE i played you that loop BECAUSE i can't afford
- 2:48Speaker 2: the rights To Old Town road By Little Naseex and
- 2:52Speaker 2: why WOULD i play you that specific slice Of wrangler
- 2:56Speaker 2: around My Booty? Cheese COULD i afford? It because that
- 3:00Speaker 2: was the number one song In america On june, thirty twenty,
- 3:04Speaker 2: Nineteen and that was the Day Taylor swift lost control
- 3:08Speaker 2: of her, music an action that inspired her to reclaim
- 3:12Speaker 2: control of not only her, career but of her life
- 3:16Speaker 2: like never. Before on this Episode Interstate, stalking Death, Threats Lost,
- 3:23Speaker 2: Songs Love Letters Gone, mad And Taylor, Swift I'm Jake brennan.
- 3:29Speaker 3: And this Is. Disgraceland the letters In Eric swaberk's hands were.
- 4:09Speaker 3: Sweaty he fiddled with the, maps mindedly tracing the creases
- 4:13Speaker 3: in the worn paper from the driver's seat of his.
- 4:15Speaker 3: Sedan the car idled in the parking lot Of Big
- 4:19Speaker 3: Machine label grew exhaling a blue smog into the Human nashville.
- 4:23Speaker 3: Air eric's handwritten notes had grown wrinkled and weary from
- 4:27Speaker 3: repeatedly rereading. Them during his nine hundred mile trip From
- 4:31Speaker 3: austin To, nashville he obsessively reassessed the notes he'd written
- 4:35Speaker 3: nearly every chance he, got at every stop on his,
- 4:38Speaker 3: journey every gas, station every, diner every bathroom. Break if he,
- 4:44Speaker 3: stopped he dug out the, parcel opened it and reread the.
- 4:47Speaker 3: Notes he saw his words in a new light every.
- 4:50Speaker 3: Time he sounded devoted when he read it at a
- 4:53Speaker 3: run down rest area in Rural. Arkansas he sounded, firm
- 4:57Speaker 3: at some Hipster tacorea In. Memphis and right, now next
- 5:02Speaker 3: to the glistening metallic backdrop of Downtown, nashville he sounded.
- 5:07Speaker 3: Determined august twenty, Eighteen eric removed one letter from Its warren,
- 5:13Speaker 3: envelope addressed To Scott, PORCHETTOW ceo Of Big Machine. Records
- 5:18Speaker 3: he traced his final statement delicately with his pinky. FINGER
- 5:22Speaker 3: i will not hesitate to kill, Her. Scott and there's nothing,
- 5:25Speaker 3: you your, lawyers or the law will be about to
- 5:28Speaker 3: do about. It. Shit how would he missed that he
- 5:32Speaker 3: had written about? Twice remember WHO i? Am? Well who is?
- 5:38Speaker 3: That will get the point across to Both scott And.
- 5:40Speaker 3: Taylor despite the double use of the word About, Taylor
- 5:44Speaker 3: Taylor Swift taylor his, soulmate his Down south, sweetheart his
- 5:50Speaker 3: blonde haired, beauty His eric's love For Taylor swift started
- 5:58Speaker 3: blooming at age twenty, two that age between adolescence and true.
- 6:02Speaker 3: Adulthood but he was now twenty. Six he had watched
- 6:07Speaker 3: four years of quiet devotion pass, by felt the object
- 6:11Speaker 3: of his, Obsession Taylor, swift reach out to him in
- 6:14Speaker 3: more than four hundred. Dreams eric logged each vision in
- 6:18Speaker 3: one of his note, books every aching. Detail he etched
- 6:22Speaker 3: them into those. Pages he had waited long enough to claim.
- 6:25Speaker 3: Her But eric hadn't wanted to do it like, this
- 6:30Speaker 3: take time off from work from his job as a
- 6:32Speaker 3: school bus, driver criss cross state, lines and roll up
- 6:36Speaker 3: to the headquarters of his now sworn, Enemy, scopborchetta just
- 6:40Speaker 3: to PLoP a fat stack of letters on the right.
- 6:43Speaker 3: Desk he didn't want any of, that but he had
- 6:46Speaker 3: no other. Choice he had information to, deliver important information
- 6:51Speaker 3: that demanded the attention of big, machine information involving the
- 6:56Speaker 3: safety of their, Artist Taylor. Swift it could have all
- 7:00Speaker 3: been so very, easy but no one was letting him
- 7:03Speaker 3: do things the easy. Way his letters had been cordial at,
- 7:07Speaker 3: first led us To Big, machine addressed To Scott borchadow
- 7:10Speaker 3: specifically requesting a meeting With. Taylor he was, polite but
- 7:14Speaker 3: he was. FIRM a couple emails, too he was, respectful
- 7:18Speaker 3: and that didn't get him, anywhere though he didn't get an,
- 7:20Speaker 3: answer not even the dignity of a, response even if
- 7:23Speaker 3: it had been a, no such a slap in the.
- 7:25Speaker 3: Face didn't they know that all these, songs all the
- 7:28Speaker 3: billboard number ones raking in more money than A South
- 7:30Speaker 3: american drug cartel were about? Him maybe he hadn't explained
- 7:35Speaker 3: that clearly, enough so he took things a little further.
- 7:40Speaker 3: More handwritten letters piled up In Scott borchetto's mailbox That Big,
- 7:44Speaker 3: machine and those letters now demanded That eric be allowed
- 7:47Speaker 3: to Meet Taylor. Swift and how Did eric know That
- 7:50Speaker 3: Taylor swift was really his? Soulmate scott would probably want to, know,
- 7:55Speaker 3: Right eric explained it, Simply taylor And taylor alone was the,
- 7:59Speaker 3: person and he wanted to. Rape, yes you heard that.
- 8:03Speaker 3: Correctly that Was Eric swarbrook's entirely fucked up, logic that
- 8:08Speaker 3: he knew That Taylor swift was his soulmate because she
- 8:12Speaker 3: was the person he wanted to. Rape it made no,
- 8:16Speaker 3: sense and as, such the logic was greeted with Nothing,
- 8:24Speaker 3: buckus no response From taylor or her, hatchet And scott
- 8:28Speaker 3: broshetta absolute. Silence for all of his heartfelt, Effort eric
- 8:36Speaker 3: was rewarded with, ugly deafening. Silence it made the noise
- 8:46Speaker 3: in his head that much. Louder the sweet swells of
- 8:49Speaker 3: adoration he felt For taylor became a violent. Hitch this
- 8:53Speaker 3: was the Game scott wanted to. Play Paint taylor into
- 8:56Speaker 3: that hard to get. Corner how ABOUT i paint the
- 8:58Speaker 3: walls of your shitty little record office with your blood
- 9:01Speaker 3: WHEN i blow your fucking brains out of your, head
- 9:03Speaker 3: you snobby little. Fuck eric's threat mustn't have, landed Because
- 9:11Speaker 3: scott didn't answer that letter. Either, This eric concluded was
- 9:14Speaker 3: where the other men always messed, Up the psychostalkers with
- 9:18Speaker 3: no grasp on, reality tweeting sweet sentiments At taylor multiple
- 9:22Speaker 3: times a, day every, day likely from the comfort of
- 9:23Speaker 3: their mother's. Basement he read about one guy who did
- 9:26Speaker 3: that more than seven hundred. Times said he wanted To
- 9:28Speaker 3: buyer a purple dress and make her his wife over
- 9:31Speaker 3: and over. Again so, lame so. Delusional, No eric had
- 9:36Speaker 3: to reinvent his. Approach he couldn't stomach the thought of
- 9:39Speaker 3: flinging his heart at an unknown inbox. Again he wasn't
- 9:43Speaker 3: going to cower behind a computer screen any. Longer he
- 9:46Speaker 3: was going to deliver his messages in person like a.
- 9:50Speaker 3: Man going To taylor's home was simply out of the.
- 9:55Speaker 3: Question each of her, residents says he knew them all had,
- 9:59Speaker 3: security Like Ford, knox thanks to the many delusional suitors
- 10:02Speaker 3: who had come before, him the ones who claimed they
- 10:05Speaker 3: wanted career, advice the ones who held down her doorbell
- 10:08Speaker 3: for hours at a, time or threw stolen money over
- 10:11Speaker 3: the fence like confetti in an act of. Desperation going
- 10:14Speaker 3: To taylor directly it wasn't the right. Move, Instead eric
- 10:18Speaker 3: had access to the next best, thing access to the
- 10:21Speaker 3: man who had once seen the same potential in tailor
- 10:24Speaker 3: that eric'sa on her now so here he was pulled
- 10:28Speaker 3: over in the parking a lot Of Big Machine label
- 10:30Speaker 3: group ready to hand deliver his latest correspondence To Scott.
- 10:34Speaker 3: Borchettow today marked his third pilgrimage To big, Machine and
- 10:39Speaker 3: you know what they said about the third? Time third
- 10:41Speaker 3: time is the, term because you come packing death. Threats
- 10:45Speaker 3: he felt the blood vessels in his. Temples, well how
- 10:48Speaker 3: could they do? This how could they deny him for so,
- 10:50Speaker 3: long ignore him and lump me with their litany of spineless?
- 10:54Speaker 3: Stalkers how could they spurn him like he had some
- 10:56Speaker 3: sort of sick case of puppy love or a case
- 10:59Speaker 3: of puppy. Lofe make someone drive nine hundred miles to
- 11:02Speaker 3: meet their? Soulmate would they do? It three? Times eric
- 11:06Speaker 3: grit his teeth and resisted the urge to crumple the
- 11:08Speaker 3: letter in his. Hand the adoration he felt in his
- 11:11Speaker 3: chest pulsed, harder pounding like a battering ram on a locked.
- 11:15Speaker 3: Door his feelings were coming full. Circle his unbridled, Love
- 11:19Speaker 3: the aching blank space in his heart was bubbling over
- 11:23Speaker 3: hell's bells drowned. Out the sound of wedding bells in
- 11:26Speaker 3: his mind was becoming. Rage, hatred pure. Hatred it moved
- 11:32Speaker 3: him even more than the sweet and sappy feelings. Did
- 11:35Speaker 3: he lifted his eyes to the building in front of
- 11:37Speaker 3: him and recited his favorite line from a past letter
- 11:40Speaker 3: to no one in. Particular he had read it at
- 11:42Speaker 3: enough times that he hadn't memorized tattooed on his brain
- 11:45Speaker 3: like a promise to. HIMSELF i will continue writing you
- 11:48Speaker 3: Until i'm strong and independent enough to enter. Society and
- 11:52Speaker 3: Once i've entered it'll be too. Late taylor will. DIE
- 11:57Speaker 3: i will insure. It Taylor swift's mind reduced the backstage
- 12:23Speaker 3: buzz surrounding her at The Raymond James stadium to a low.
- 12:27Speaker 3: Hum she scratched at a piece of confetti tickling the
- 12:30Speaker 3: nape of her neck as she watched a horde of
- 12:33Speaker 3: assistance peel off her upteenth stage. Outfit she wasn't known
- 12:37Speaker 3: as a quick change queen for. Nothing tonight she had
- 12:41Speaker 3: filled a sixty five thousand person capacity stadium In, Tampa.
- 12:44Speaker 3: Florida that was the blessing of a big reputation like,
- 12:48Speaker 3: Hers for better or, worse it got asses and, seats
- 12:53Speaker 3: and in twenty, Eighteen Taylor swift's reputation couldn't be, contained
- 12:59Speaker 3: not by the men same pop of her new album
- 13:01Speaker 3: of the same, name nor by the grand display of
- 13:04Speaker 3: her reputation World, tour a feat so massive that it
- 13:08Speaker 3: had to be sliced into six. Acts act five of
- 13:12Speaker 3: the show was over time for the final, act the big,
- 13:15Speaker 3: Finale but tonight it was more of a big fuck.
- 13:20Speaker 3: You it Was august, fourteenth twenty, eighteen exactly one year
- 13:26Speaker 3: since a judge In, Denver, colorado slammed down a gavel
- 13:30Speaker 3: and ruled In taylor's favor for her sexual assault. Case
- 13:34Speaker 3: one year since a courtroom full of people decided to
- 13:37Speaker 3: believe that, yes a RADIO dj had groped her ass
- 13:41Speaker 3: at a meet and, greet even though it felt unbelievable
- 13:44Speaker 3: that there was ever any doubt about the. INCIDENT i,
- 13:47Speaker 3: mean there was literally a photo of it. Happening it
- 13:50Speaker 3: had since spread across the. INTERNET a moment of, humiliation
- 13:54Speaker 3: frozen in. Time one hand up her, skirt one hand
- 13:57Speaker 3: on his, hip one shit eating grin on his. Face
- 14:01Speaker 3: now heoded her one, dollar a symbolic, gesture Since taylor
- 14:06Speaker 3: was not wanting for. Money all she wanted was, respect
- 14:10Speaker 3: not just for, her but for women. Everywhere today was
- 14:14Speaker 3: an anniversary of a. Victory she would be, elated she
- 14:17Speaker 3: would feel. Triumphant but tonight all that was overshadowed by
- 14:22Speaker 3: something far more. Sinister taylor lifted her legs one at
- 14:26Speaker 3: a time to step out of one stage costume and into.
- 14:29Speaker 3: ANOTHER a hairstylist tugged at her golden, locks futzing with
- 14:33Speaker 3: hairspray and bobby. Pins she had learned to tune it all.
- 14:37Speaker 3: Out she tuned it out in the same way she
- 14:40Speaker 3: did with the drama on the, internet like comments that
- 14:43Speaker 3: said she resembled roadkill reanimated by a drunk tax at her,
- 14:47Speaker 3: mist like when the Hashtag Taylor swift is over party
- 14:50Speaker 3: was the number one trending topic On twitter. Worldwide switching
- 14:55Speaker 3: on her mental meat button was a much needed, skill
- 14:57Speaker 3: as she had acquired over the years as her fame
- 14:59Speaker 3: mush beyond her wildest. Dreams but no matter what she,
- 15:03Speaker 3: did she couldn't tune up the Things Eric swarburg vowed
- 15:07Speaker 3: to do to.
- 15:08Speaker 2: Her.
- 15:09Speaker 3: Eric she hated that she knew his, name hated that
- 15:13Speaker 3: she had dedicated anything more than half a brain cell
- 15:15Speaker 3: to his, existence but he kept barging his way into
- 15:19Speaker 3: her life over and over. Again she had no, choice
- 15:23Speaker 3: especially if she wanted to make it out of the
- 15:25Speaker 3: sick situation, unharmed if she wanted to make it out.
- 15:28Speaker 3: Alive all those letters about his desire to tear her
- 15:32Speaker 3: limb from limb to rape, her to kill, her to end.
- 15:35Speaker 3: Her she shimmered into a sequin purple dress as the
- 15:39Speaker 3: threats looped in her. Mind he didn't even make it
- 15:42Speaker 3: Into Big machine this. Time her security team a shired.
- 15:45Speaker 3: Her the guard spotted him the second he stepped out
- 15:48Speaker 3: of his. Car he left the property in handcuffs before
- 15:51Speaker 3: he could even try to break Into Big machine's. Headquarters,
- 15:54Speaker 3: easy well, handled but still. Terrifying another shimmy in the
- 16:00Speaker 3: snug suit as she felt an invisible hands that were.
- 16:03Speaker 3: Up she tried to be, patient tried evaluate it from a,
- 16:07Speaker 3: kinder more human. Perspective surely this man could not be.
- 16:10Speaker 3: Well but the letters kept stacking up, there and so
- 16:14Speaker 3: too did the. Threats dozens at this, point, signed, sealed, delivered.
- 16:18Speaker 3: Deranged it was so concerning that her team now used
- 16:22Speaker 3: facial recognition technology dyesh of her concerts cameras programs specifically
- 16:27Speaker 3: to single Out eric or any other notable, stalker And
- 16:30Speaker 3: taylor's see of. Superfans imagine that you're so famous and
- 16:36Speaker 3: so harassed by a small army of stalkers that facial
- 16:40Speaker 3: recognition technology is specifically programmed and installed to identify the
- 16:45Speaker 3: lunatics who want to kill you. Insane at the very,
- 16:51Speaker 3: least all this madness had been buffered By. Scott Scott
- 16:55Speaker 3: BORSHETTA A Big machine always Had taylor's best interests at.
- 16:58Speaker 3: Heart he had them at heart from the very, beginning
- 17:01Speaker 3: when he had no label to speak of and she
- 17:03Speaker 3: had no massive. Following but one day in two thousand and,
- 17:07Speaker 3: four sitting in the cozy ambiance of The Bluebird cafe In,
- 17:10Speaker 3: Nashville scott saw a future star on stage and made
- 17:14Speaker 3: her a, promise a promise to sign Her Taylor, swift
- 17:18Speaker 3: When Big, machine his record, label was actually in business
- 17:22Speaker 3: and no longer just an idea of floating around in his. Head,
- 17:25Speaker 3: Now Big machine did some of the best business in
- 17:28Speaker 3: the music industry thanks to six albums From taylor that
- 17:32Speaker 3: all could have belonged TO rca could, have But taylor
- 17:36Speaker 3: decided to opt out of that deal so she wouldn't
- 17:38Speaker 3: have to record other people's. SONGS rca called it a development,
- 17:43Speaker 3: deal a promise to dangle in front of a teenage
- 17:46Speaker 3: girl as the label observed her growth as an, artist her,
- 17:49Speaker 3: songwriting her. MUSICIANSHIP rca dangled it for twelve months Before
- 17:53Speaker 3: taylor got wise and got out in the record label's.
- 17:56Speaker 3: Eyes in rcia's, Eyes Taylor swift was just await and
- 18:00Speaker 3: see in the case that country music went more, mainstream
- 18:03Speaker 3: and thus she would have been more profitable for. Them
- 18:06Speaker 3: but APPARENTLY rca hadn't been watching closely. Enough they hadn't
- 18:11Speaker 3: learned yet That Taylor swift didn't sit, still and if
- 18:14Speaker 3: she was, still it was only because she had her
- 18:17Speaker 3: head down for the few moments it took to write
- 18:19Speaker 3: her own. Ticket Because Taylor swift didn't, dream she, planned
- 18:26Speaker 3: she DITCHED rca and began working as a songwriter For
- 18:29Speaker 3: SONY Atv. Publishing every day after, school she pulled up
- 18:32Speaker 3: a chair with writers twice her, age took out her
- 18:35Speaker 3: pen and put her fourteen year old heartaches on, paper
- 18:38Speaker 3: knocked every breakup banger out of the. PARK rca could
- 18:42Speaker 3: develop that after doing that on her own terms for another.
- 18:47Speaker 3: Decade it Was Scott, borchetta NOT, rca who was running
- 18:50Speaker 3: out of space on his walls For Platinum. Records suffice to, say,
- 18:54Speaker 3: Now scott really had her best interests at, heart even
- 18:57Speaker 3: though their contract had come to a. Close upon the
- 18:59Speaker 3: release of her snarling new Album, Reputation taylor started to
- 19:04Speaker 3: warm up as an assistant reapplied her. Lipstick, no she
- 19:07Speaker 3: wouldn't entertain this pity, party not on her, day on
- 19:10Speaker 3: the anniversary of her big win In. Colorado she wasn't
- 19:13Speaker 3: going to ever Give Eric swabrick the satisfaction of free.
- 19:16Speaker 3: Rent in her, mind never, ever, ever she muttered to. Herself,
- 19:21Speaker 3: showtime a, crowbar an aluminum baseball bat lock, picks a
- 19:33Speaker 3: few pairs of rubber. Gloves taylor stopped. Reading she couldn't
- 19:37Speaker 3: bring herself to review the full. List police had caught
- 19:41Speaker 3: another one In Rhode, island this time outside her mansion
- 19:45Speaker 3: In Westerly Holiday, house as the original owner had called
- 19:48Speaker 3: it decades, ago and a man Named David little had
- 19:51Speaker 3: traveled all the way From Des, Moines iowa to see
- 19:54Speaker 3: it see. Her he packed no suitcase for his interstate,
- 19:58Speaker 3: journey just to backpack brimming with more than thirty different
- 20:01Speaker 3: tools commonly used when invading someone's. Home he told the
- 20:05Speaker 3: cops he was there for a, visit swore up and
- 20:08Speaker 3: down that he was friends With taylor and she had
- 20:10Speaker 3: agreed to share some music industry, tips which definitely explained
- 20:14Speaker 3: the tool in his bag made specifically for breaking. Windows,
- 20:18Speaker 3: Right taylor sighed from the safety of another of her,
- 20:22Speaker 3: homes this one In Los. Angeles im poured another round
- 20:26Speaker 3: of treats on the dining room table for her, Cat Olivia.
- 20:28Speaker 3: Benson the Fluffy scottish fold was a Cat taylor had
- 20:32Speaker 3: named after one of her favorite on screen meeting. Ladies
- 20:35Speaker 3: olivia named as a tribute to the Empathetic law And
- 20:38Speaker 3: Order Special Victims unit detective lunched away at her second. Dinner,
- 20:42Speaker 3: Dubiously taylor sighed from the cozy safety of her dining
- 20:47Speaker 3: room while she Scratched olivia behind the. Ears she wished
- 20:50Speaker 3: home always felt as, secure but it was hard to
- 20:54Speaker 3: truly unwind when the police reports stacked up as fast
- 20:57Speaker 3: as fan. Mail there had been one man who came
- 21:00Speaker 3: here to this very house In Los angeles From colorado
- 21:04Speaker 3: was little more than a knife and some rope in his.
- 21:07Speaker 3: Car then there was the prick who had climbed onto
- 21:10Speaker 3: a roof In New york who wasn't even deem mentally
- 21:12Speaker 3: fit to stand. Trial and now Mister little had camped
- 21:16Speaker 3: out In Rhode island for, her eagerly awaiting that quote
- 21:19Speaker 3: unquote career. Advice with a lock pick in one hand
- 21:22Speaker 3: and a crowbar in the. Other the threats, changed the weapons,
- 21:27Speaker 3: changed but at the end of the, day every one
- 21:29Speaker 3: of these men was the same sick bastard deep down.
- 21:32Speaker 3: Inside they all professed love for a woman they never
- 21:35Speaker 3: spent a second, with never even held eye contact, with
- 21:39Speaker 3: so they could claim they shared a smoldering glance from
- 21:41Speaker 3: across the. Room they were in love with A google,
- 21:44Speaker 3: search nothing, more and she very much wanted to be
- 21:47Speaker 3: excluded from their made up. Narratives the. Gloves her mind
- 21:52Speaker 3: kept going back to the. Gloves what did he need
- 21:55Speaker 3: the gloves? FOR a lump slid down her throat in
- 22:00Speaker 3: a familiar, spot the same uncomfortable place is when she
- 22:04Speaker 3: received a different piece of alarming news just a few weeks.
- 22:06Speaker 3: Prior as it turns, Out Scott borschetta did not Have
- 22:13Speaker 3: taylor's best interest at. Heart even, worse he didn't have her.
- 22:18Speaker 3: Masters masters are an artist's official original recording of a
- 22:23Speaker 3: song or. Album if an artist owns their, masters they
- 22:27Speaker 3: can license their music to any artist or third party they,
- 22:30Speaker 3: want and they can rake in royalties in the. Process
- 22:33Speaker 3: if they don't have. Ownership if they don't have their,
- 22:36Speaker 3: masters their intellectual property can create quite the profit for someone.
- 22:40Speaker 3: Else in, short if an artist owns his or her,
- 22:43Speaker 3: masters they could do whatever the hell they want with their.
- 22:45Speaker 3: Music but the opposite applies as. Well if someone else
- 22:49Speaker 3: owns an artist's master, recordings then they can do whatever
- 22:52Speaker 3: the hell they want with the artist's. Music taylor found
- 22:56Speaker 3: out that her masters were gone in the most impersonal
- 22:59Speaker 3: way possible on the, news just like the public. Did
- 23:04Speaker 3: scott had Sold Big machine label group in her life's.
- 23:07Speaker 3: Work along with. It through the sale of the record,
- 23:10Speaker 3: label ownership of her six albums had been transferred To Scooter,
- 23:14Speaker 3: braun the music industry mastermind behind artists Like Ariana grande
- 23:19Speaker 3: And Justin bieber aka the other biggest pop stars in the,
- 23:22Speaker 3: world the other people vying for the number one spots
- 23:26Speaker 3: On spotify playlists In billboard. Charts for, Years braun had
- 23:31Speaker 3: been trying to Topple taylor from the top of the
- 23:33Speaker 3: pop game so his own artists could come and dear
- 23:35Speaker 3: the number one. Position now he'd profit from the very
- 23:38Speaker 3: same songs and albums he had been so eager to
- 23:41Speaker 3: snub taylor. Songs bron also just so happened to be
- 23:47Speaker 3: the former manager Of Kanye, west who not only famously
- 23:50Speaker 3: Interrupted taylor's two thousand and NINE vma acceptance, speech but
- 23:55Speaker 3: later broke out THE b word to refer to her
- 23:57Speaker 3: in his Song famous and for what the sake of
- 24:00Speaker 3: a clever bar a few cruel laughs amongst his guy,
- 24:04Speaker 3: friends and maybe he thought it was dark humor when
- 24:06Speaker 3: he placed a lifelike replica Of taylor's naked body in
- 24:09Speaker 3: a bed with mannequins Resembling Donald trump And Chris brown
- 24:13Speaker 3: for the famous music video. Too if that was the,
- 24:17Speaker 3: Case taylor didn't see the. Humor she only saw The
- 24:20Speaker 3: internet staring at her likeness in the new without her. Consent.
- 24:24Speaker 3: Gross no matter how you looked at, it the man
- 24:27Speaker 3: who represented her direct competition now owned her hard earned original,
- 24:31Speaker 3: Music cue The Bad. Blood it was a nightmare that
- 24:36Speaker 3: was perfectly. Legal in overnight Vanishing, act a lifetime Of taylor's,
- 24:41Speaker 3: work ages fifteen to twenty nine was. Gone Scott borchetta
- 24:45Speaker 3: saw three hundred million dollars from his sale Of Big.
- 24:48Speaker 3: Machine taylor saw, nothing not that she needed the, money
- 24:53Speaker 3: although that's what The internet always made it out to look. Like,
- 24:57Speaker 3: no it was about the, principle the fact that a
- 24:59Speaker 3: man and promised through the world and then sold it
- 25:02Speaker 3: after a decade long. Relationship she had requested to Purchase
- 25:06Speaker 3: The masters on multiple, occasions and the label resisted every,
- 25:09Speaker 3: time not unless she signed another, contract they. Said not
- 25:13Speaker 3: only was that too tit for tat For taylor's, style
- 25:16Speaker 3: it was the exact opposite.
- 25:17Speaker 2: Of what she.
- 25:18Speaker 3: Wanted she longed and move forward with a, career but
- 25:21Speaker 3: in a way that she could take her hard earned
- 25:23Speaker 3: musical growth with her Fearless Speak now read nineteen eighty nine,
- 25:29Speaker 3: reputation her self titled. Debut those six albums told the
- 25:33Speaker 3: story of her life to. Date it felt like such
- 25:36Speaker 3: a simple. Request she just wanted full ownership of her. Life,
- 25:40Speaker 3: Overnight Scott borschettow wordlessly told her that she couldn't have.
- 25:44Speaker 3: It no one would let her have. It Not, scott Not,
- 25:48Speaker 3: eric Not. David the men in her, life both welcome and,
- 25:52Speaker 3: unwelcome were making sure of. It we'll be right back
- 26:00Speaker 3: were were. Were the rain wrapping on her window was
- 26:11Speaker 3: so loud that night that she almost didn't hear the
- 26:13Speaker 3: person stirring in her master. Bathroom the pitter patter of
- 26:17Speaker 3: the water streaming from the showerhead blended in with the rain,
- 26:21Speaker 3: drop slulling her to SLEEP a sliver of light slipped
- 26:25Speaker 3: under the bottom of the bathroom door like a gentle.
- 26:28Speaker 3: Warning as she dozed peacefully in Her tribeca, apartment there
- 26:33Speaker 3: was a scraping noise metal shower curtain rings on a
- 26:37Speaker 3: metal curtain, rod then the click of a door. Lock
- 26:41Speaker 3: she shifted in, bed drifting between dreams about world tours
- 26:45Speaker 3: and white. Felines she called out to her, boyfriend who
- 26:50Speaker 3: may or may not have come in late that. Night
- 26:52Speaker 3: she was trapped in the drowsy step between blissful sleep
- 26:56Speaker 3: and lethargic. Consciousness the sliver of light was extinguished and
- 27:01Speaker 3: the room went, dark silence except for the tender taps
- 27:07Speaker 3: on her. Window in her mental, fog she. Paused she,
- 27:12Speaker 3: listened tried to detect the slightest disturbance with ears that
- 27:17Speaker 3: had fine tuned so many hit. Singles. Nothing she rolled,
- 27:23Speaker 3: over pulling the sheets up around her neck like a startled.
- 27:26Speaker 3: Toddler but the sheets wouldn't. Budge something was weighing them.
- 27:30Speaker 3: Down she bolted upright in bed and. BLINKED a black
- 27:34Speaker 3: mass loomed on the edge of her, bed inches from.
- 27:37Speaker 3: Her she prayed it was her, boyfriend prayed it was
- 27:39Speaker 3: anyone she knew as long as it was a familiar.
- 27:41Speaker 3: Face she didn't even get the chance to see you.
- 27:44Speaker 3: Clearly the shadow moved suddenly and, swiftly a hand on her.
- 27:48Speaker 3: Neck pinned to the, bed she felt her throat crumple
- 27:52Speaker 3: under the pressure of his. Grip no, oxygen no cell phone,
- 27:56Speaker 3: nearby no neighbors to cry out to more press fingers
- 28:01Speaker 3: digging into her skin hard enough to leave a, bruise
- 28:04Speaker 3: but she wasn't worried about bruises right. Now the shadow
- 28:08Speaker 3: leaned in, closer so close she could start to discern the.
- 28:11Speaker 3: Details brown, eyes a, beard she had seen it. Before
- 28:16Speaker 3: his hot breath brushed against her. Cheeks her eyes watered
- 28:20Speaker 3: as she felt the last bit of oxygen leave her.
- 28:22Speaker 3: Lungs it escaped her chest as a muddled. Scream she
- 28:27Speaker 3: shot up in, bed gasping for. Air her hands went
- 28:30Speaker 3: right to her. Throat she had been choking on. Nothing
- 28:33Speaker 3: an icy sweat clung to her. Pajamas it was just another.
- 28:37Speaker 3: Nightmare thank. God these are the kinds of chilling nightmares
- 28:44Speaker 3: we can only imagine, torment the dreams of women who
- 28:46Speaker 3: feel the very, real very dangerous grip of stalkers and,
- 28:50Speaker 3: abusers the weight of worries sometimes sneaks its way into the,
- 28:54Speaker 3: subconscious a burdensome weight That Taylor swift is surely well acquainted.
- 28:59Speaker 3: With on this particular, Night taylor was in bed, alone
- 29:07Speaker 3: but in Her Beverly hills home on the opposite side
- 29:09Speaker 3: of the country From New, york thousands of miles From,
- 29:12Speaker 3: tribeca and more, importantly thousands of miles away From Roger.
- 29:17Speaker 3: Alvarado but why did the media always make lists of
- 29:21Speaker 3: her ex? Boyfriends her lists of unwanted suitors Like Roger
- 29:24Speaker 3: alvarado would be so much more. Impressive unwanted suitors fucked
- 29:29Speaker 3: that called them what they, were, stalkers, malicious, illegal invasive,
- 29:33Speaker 3: stalkers And Roger alvarado was among the. Worst the first
- 29:38Speaker 3: time had been upsetting. Enough last year the police found
- 29:41Speaker 3: him napping in the bed of Her New york. Apartment
- 29:44Speaker 3: he had just showered in her private, bathroom fresh as
- 29:46Speaker 3: a demented little. Daisy had he been in bed waiting for?
- 29:50Speaker 3: Her or was burglary really just that? Exhausting it didn't.
- 29:54Speaker 3: Matter what did matter is that he went to, jail
- 29:58Speaker 3: and when his time behind bars was, up he did
- 30:00Speaker 3: it again six months in the clink of attempted burbery
- 30:04Speaker 3: At taylor's home had seemingly taught him. Nothing after his
- 30:07Speaker 3: brief prison, sentence his first priority was shrinking the distance
- 30:11Speaker 3: between himself And taylor. Swift immediately he sprang from his
- 30:15Speaker 3: jail cell and onto the First jetty could find out Of,
- 30:17Speaker 3: florida landed In New, york hailed a cap and took
- 30:20Speaker 3: his first steps of true freedom outside Of Taylor's tribeca.
- 30:23Speaker 3: Home but that wasn't good, Enough because that wasn't close.
- 30:28Speaker 3: Enough he swiped the ladder from a nearby construction, site
- 30:31Speaker 3: poisted himself onto a, patio and smashed her glass door
- 30:34Speaker 3: with a concrete. Paver his unwelcome ntrance cost four thousand
- 30:39Speaker 3: dollars in. Damages the police arrived Before alvarado could get
- 30:43Speaker 3: squeaky clean in her shower this. TIME a reporter later
- 30:47Speaker 3: asked him if he'd do it, again, probably he, said
- 30:50Speaker 3: with more, violence but not towards. HER. O, great that's
- 30:54Speaker 3: cool of. Him taylor swung her legs over the edge
- 30:56Speaker 3: of her, bed and there was no use trying to.
- 30:58Speaker 3: Sleep Now, Island New, York Beverly, hills nowhere was. Saved
- 31:03Speaker 3: the media eagerly shared her home addresses with anyone who
- 31:06Speaker 3: cared to look them, up, which of course was apparently
- 31:09Speaker 3: every whack job on the. Planet Ta swift was already
- 31:12Speaker 3: well beyond the point of sacrificing some sense of normalcy
- 31:15Speaker 3: in her. Life she had handed that over ages ago
- 31:18Speaker 3: when she hired a twenty four to seven security, Team
- 31:21Speaker 3: but somehow she was still knee deep in breaking. Bullshit
- 31:25Speaker 3: how long it had been since she had driven by
- 31:27Speaker 3: herself the calm six years, Eight the question depressed her
- 31:33Speaker 3: years ago tend to be. Exact she had said during
- 31:36Speaker 3: an interview that if she had to choose between walking
- 31:39Speaker 3: down the street, alone unnoticed and playing for thousands of screaming,
- 31:43Speaker 3: fans she'd picked the sold out stadiums without. Hesitation that
- 31:47Speaker 3: nobody had warned her about what happens when the fame
- 31:50Speaker 3: follows you home at night with love letters and a lock.
- 31:53Speaker 3: Pick all she had ever wanted to do was to
- 31:57Speaker 3: connect with, people to be that voice whispering through someone's
- 32:01Speaker 3: headphones in the middle of the night when they had
- 32:03Speaker 3: no one else to turn. To some good that had done.
- 32:06Speaker 3: Her now men were in her, bedrooms ready to return the,
- 32:09Speaker 3: favor except they weren't whispering when she was a teenager
- 32:13Speaker 3: sitting at the table with the other songwriters At. Sony
- 32:17Speaker 3: she wrote what she. Knew she wrote what people her
- 32:19Speaker 3: age could connect. With the adults churned out songs about settling,
- 32:23Speaker 3: down about, complacency. Contentment taylor was fourteen years old at the.
- 32:28Speaker 3: Time she didn't have time for any of, that but
- 32:31Speaker 3: she had was a mix of teenage metal and blushing.
- 32:34Speaker 3: Vulnerability she wrote through the eyes of a frizzy haired
- 32:37Speaker 3: girl From pennsylvania who grew up on A christmas tree.
- 32:40Speaker 3: Firm how about the girl WEARING t shirts and seekers
- 32:43Speaker 3: who begrudgingly watched girls in high heels and cheerleading uniforms
- 32:47Speaker 3: scoop up any boy they. Wanted misfit was a strong.
- 32:51Speaker 3: Word she hadn't been a, misfit but she hadn't quite
- 32:54Speaker 3: fit in as a teenager. Either and then fame spun her,
- 32:58Speaker 3: around slaps. Sparkly how girl boots on her feet and
- 33:01Speaker 3: pushed a million microphones in her, face plastered her face
- 33:05Speaker 3: on every available, billboard and cleared off old billboard specifically
- 33:08Speaker 3: to make room for. Her she was suddenly a sixteen
- 33:11Speaker 3: year old. Superstar and then she really didn't fit. In
- 33:16Speaker 3: she left high school after her sophomore year in favor of.
- 33:18Speaker 3: Homeschooling but even though she no longer had to navigate
- 33:22Speaker 3: the hormone adult halls of her old, school she never
- 33:25Speaker 3: stopped writing music for the people who felt like they
- 33:28Speaker 3: had no safe place to turn to comfort. Music but
- 33:32Speaker 3: at this, Point Taylor swift was the one who could
- 33:36Speaker 3: use some. Comfort she traced her steps back and forth
- 33:40Speaker 3: across the modern and moonlight pooling on her bedroom. Floor
- 33:44Speaker 3: had she opened up too, much given away too much of.
- 33:47Speaker 3: Herself her newest, Album lover seemed to tow that line.
- 33:52Speaker 3: Perfectly she countered her first dance ballads with cheeky bursts
- 33:56Speaker 3: of colorful, pop seemingly taken right from the pages of
- 34:00Speaker 3: giddy teenage diary. Entries the title track could make you,
- 34:04Speaker 3: weepy but a song LIKE I forgot That You existed
- 34:07Speaker 3: snapped you right back down to, earth serious to sassy
- 34:11Speaker 3: and a. Heartbeat lover was more playful than, usual And
- 34:14Speaker 3: taylor could. Play all she wanted was her album after.
- 34:18Speaker 3: All twenty nineteen marked a rare first For Taylor. Swift
- 34:23Speaker 3: she released the first album she had ever. Owned the
- 34:27Speaker 3: freedom of it all made her heart, flutter and maybe
- 34:30Speaker 3: that's what she, needed more fluttering and a lot less anxious.
- 34:35Speaker 3: Pounding On april, ninth twenty twenty, One Taylor swift was
- 35:05Speaker 3: in the ears of super fans and super stalkers alike
- 35:09Speaker 3: as the sounds of her new, Album, Fearless Taylor's version
- 35:12Speaker 3: leapt from stereos around the. World, fearless the two thousand
- 35:17Speaker 3: and eight, album was not something she had any rights.
- 35:20Speaker 3: To she lost those rights when her masters were stripped
- 35:23Speaker 3: from her. Ownership no matter how wrong that, Scene taylor
- 35:27Speaker 3: went back to the beginning so that she could do
- 35:30Speaker 3: things her own. Way she was the new, boss the,
- 35:34Speaker 3: owner THE. Ceo she re recorded all nineteen songs Of
- 35:39Speaker 3: fearless for the deluxe edition of the, album alongside guests
- 35:43Speaker 3: of her choice and in the order she, wanted and once,
- 35:47Speaker 3: Again Taylor swift was, everywhere especially on the. Charts the
- 35:52Speaker 3: New Fearless Taylor's version debuted at number one on The
- 35:56Speaker 3: billboard two hundred old hat For Taylor swift at this,
- 35:59Speaker 3: point as it was her ninth album to do, so
- 36:02Speaker 3: but the release marked the first time any re recorded
- 36:05Speaker 3: album had ever topped on the. Chart the feat was
- 36:08Speaker 3: spurned on by fifty million global streams on its, Release
- 36:11Speaker 3: dad itself a record for the biggest opening day of
- 36:15Speaker 3: any album On spotify that. Year that record would hold
- 36:18Speaker 3: up for seven whole months until she broke it with
- 36:21Speaker 3: her next re, Release Red And there was Another. Thing.
- 36:25Speaker 3: Fearless taylor's version boasted the biggest first week's sales of
- 36:29Speaker 3: any country album in six. Years the records were, nice
- 36:33Speaker 3: but all that ultimately didn't matter To. Taylor what mattered
- 36:37Speaker 3: was that the album came together at, all that she
- 36:40Speaker 3: had found a way to take her creative past with
- 36:42Speaker 3: her and simultaneously leave all the baggage at someone else's front.
- 36:46Speaker 3: Steps the New fearless represented more than just a necessary.
- 36:50Speaker 3: Redo it was a, reassessment a chance to peer inside
- 36:55Speaker 3: herself and examine what she wanted to put into the,
- 36:57Speaker 3: world what pieces of her heart she wanted to offer,
- 37:00Speaker 3: up in which pieces were better to keep. Private she
- 37:04Speaker 3: reached so far into herself that she found old songs
- 37:07Speaker 3: that didn't make the cut the first time. Around now
- 37:09Speaker 3: more than ten years, old Teenage taylor had written. Them
- 37:13Speaker 3: Adult taylor breathed new life into. Them they were in
- 37:17Speaker 3: better hands, now between the previously unheard material and the re.
- 37:21Speaker 3: Recordings the New fearless was a twenty six Song. Beheamoth
- 37:26Speaker 3: it took up space and stood its, ground and the
- 37:30Speaker 3: Vault Taylor swift's catalog had been cracked wide, open and
- 37:34Speaker 3: finally it Was taylor who held the. Key in the
- 37:38Speaker 3: hush of twenty, twenty she could hear. Clearly she heard
- 37:42Speaker 3: exactly how she Wanted fearless to sound the second time.
- 37:45Speaker 3: Around for once there was nothing to tune. Out the
- 37:49Speaker 3: world had slowed to a quiet, crawl and so had
- 37:52Speaker 3: the danger and. Drama her deadliest followers could do little
- 37:56Speaker 3: more than peer at or social media accounts from behind,
- 37:59Speaker 3: bars and the other would be suitors remained in the
- 38:02Speaker 3: prison of their own. Homes paralyzed by THE covid nineteen,
- 38:06Speaker 3: Pandemic taylor's mental mute button grew, cobwebs And Taylor, swift
- 38:12Speaker 3: the Real Taylor, swift basted in the glove at all
- 38:14Speaker 3: in The Beverly hill's. Home it was crazy to think
- 38:18Speaker 3: how many houses she was in right, now how many
- 38:20Speaker 3: dance parties were going on amongst teenage, girls how many
- 38:24Speaker 3: first kisses were, happening and likely a few backseat breakups as.
- 38:28Speaker 3: Well but they had all welcomed her into their. Homes in,
- 38:32Speaker 3: return she gave them a very carefully curated version of
- 38:35Speaker 3: herself back not too, little not too, much miss perfectly.
- 38:40Speaker 3: Fine the new album had soothed so many, stings the
- 38:45Speaker 3: sting of losing her music in the first, place the original,
- 38:47Speaker 3: masters the sting of the recent resale of her masters
- 38:51Speaker 3: to a private equity, firm the sting of the people
- 38:53Speaker 3: who entered her life with a peace sign and left
- 38:55Speaker 3: giving her the. Finger this was her comfort. Music her phone,
- 39:00Speaker 3: Chirped she checked the CALLER id her security. Team. Shit taylor,
- 39:07Speaker 3: answered but didn't say. Hello cops had peeled another one
- 39:10Speaker 3: away from the doors of Her tribec. Apartment he, says
- 39:14Speaker 3: he knows. You the voice on the other in the
- 39:15Speaker 3: line told her none of them know. Me taylor, said
- 39:19Speaker 3: they don't know me at. All this one was older than,
- 39:25Speaker 3: usual fifty. Two an onlooker had spotted him and called
- 39:29Speaker 3: nine one. One today marked his fifth try at least
- 39:33Speaker 3: to Catch taylor's whear's attention outside Her New york homb
- 39:38Speaker 3: and this time the stalker left in. Handcuffs and you
- 39:41Speaker 3: could say that he was, dedicated but it's more accurate
- 39:45Speaker 3: to say that he was A. Disgrace I'm Jake brennan
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