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Sharri | 27 August · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why on Sky News This is Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Good Evening. Tonight on the show, a major.
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Speaker 3: Exclusive that a tip off from Israeli intelligence assisted ASIO
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Speaker 3: as it unraveled.
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Speaker 2: The Iran terror attacks.
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Speaker 3: That scoop in a moment, Plus, Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister
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Speaker 3: Sharen Haskell.
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Speaker 2: Will be on the show later this hour.
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Speaker 3: Also tonight, a judge finds Britney Higgins defamed Linda Reynolds
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Speaker 3: and gave false statements to the media. She now stands
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Speaker 3: to lose her entire two million dollar Commonwealth payout. I'll
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Speaker 3: discuss this with Michael Kroger and Graham Richardson. Shortley and
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Speaker 3: the alleged killer of two police officers is still at
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Speaker 3: large with the manhunt set to enter its third day.
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Speaker 3: But first tonight I can exclusively reveal that Israeli intelligence
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Speaker 3: agencies assisted ASIO in its investigation into Iran's terror attacks
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Speaker 3: on Australia. Confidential sources have told me that Israel provided
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Speaker 3: ASEO with a tip off or lead in relation to
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Speaker 3: one of the fire bombings. Now the vast majority of
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Speaker 3: the extensive legwork, including unraveling complex interactions of people involved
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Speaker 3: in the chain and their use of encrypted messages, was
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Speaker 3: done by ASIO investigators and they've done an exceptional job.
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Speaker 3: Azeo reached the conclusion that the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp
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Speaker 3: was involved in these attacks entirely.
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Speaker 2: Independently of Israel.
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Speaker 3: Now, while there's a major diplomatic rift between the Albanezy
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Speaker 3: government and the Nede Yahoo government at an intelligence sharing level,
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Speaker 3: the relationship is still extremely strong. And this isn't the
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Speaker 3: first time Israel has helped Australia investigate or even thought
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Speaker 3: terror attacks. Israel alerted ASIO that there was a plot
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Speaker 3: to blow up and it had Airways flight leaving Sydney
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Speaker 3: back in twenty seventeen.
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Speaker 2: And now we know.
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Speaker 3: That Israel also helped Daisier with its investigations into the
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Speaker 3: terror attacks by Iran on Australia. Now, after these sensational
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Speaker 3: revelations yesterday, the Albanzi government is now under pressure to
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Speaker 3: reverse its recognition of a Palestinian state because there is
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Speaker 3: an immense contradiction in Pennywong's foreign policy. Australia has known
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Speaker 3: for months that Iran could be behind two major attacks
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Speaker 3: in Australia, yet it announced recognition of a Palestinian state
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Speaker 3: which is openly funded and armed by Iran. Sky News
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Speaker 3: political editor Andrew Clanel revealed earlier today that while the
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Speaker 3: Albanesi government was given the final assessment on Monday, it
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Speaker 3: had been aware for some time that Iran may be
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Speaker 3: behind the firebombings the Adas Synagogue in Melbourne and the
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Speaker 3: Lewis Continental Kitchen in Sydney.
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Speaker 4: It is my clear understanding I have been told that
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Speaker 4: for a period of months they knew that there was
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Speaker 4: a potential Iranian government link here. Now it is interesting
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Speaker 4: in terms of the fact that it's quite likely in
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Speaker 4: that time, I believe in that time Anthony Albanese he
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Speaker 4: made his announcement about the recognition of a Palestinian state. Now,
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Speaker 4: it's my understanding the government would argue in relation to that,
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Speaker 4: we're talking about recognizing Palestine, not recognizing Hamas. That's a
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Speaker 4: bit more difficult than it sounds, though, isn't it, Because
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Speaker 4: you know, even if there were elections there, Hamas might
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Speaker 4: be re elected. So and the issue there, I guess,
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Speaker 4: is that Iran funds Hamas, right, and that's something the
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Speaker 4: opposition has been pointing out all mourning.
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Speaker 3: Now, that's a major revelation from Andrew clenew He's a
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Speaker 3: very good journalist and Pennywong insists. I mean, we heard
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Speaker 3: from her today, she insists she has confidence in the
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Speaker 3: intelligence agencies.
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Speaker 2: Have a look, we have confidence in Asia's assessments.
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Speaker 5: We have confidence in our security agencies, and we have
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Speaker 5: acted on that on their assessments.
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Speaker 2: But we know.
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Speaker 3: Now that the warnings of potential Iranian links from ASIO
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Speaker 3: were there for months and months.
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Speaker 2: That's Clonel's report.
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Speaker 3: So if the Albanesi government does have confidence in its
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Speaker 3: intelligence agencies, then why wouldn't they act before. I mean,
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Speaker 3: the rest of the world could see that Iran was
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Speaker 3: the enemy, but apparently not the Albanesi government.
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Speaker 2: This government, in my view.
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Speaker 3: Couldn't get more reckless and irresponsible. It's been endlessly criticizing Israel,
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Speaker 3: which was fighting Iran, the very country committing acts of
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Speaker 3: war on our soil. And you remember Pennywong spoke to
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Speaker 3: the Iranian foreign minister before. By the way, she picked
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Speaker 3: up the phone to Israel in June this year, and
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Speaker 3: the Iranian minister said that he spoke to her about
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Speaker 3: Israeli aggression and he asked her to condemn what he
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Speaker 3: described as the Zionist regime. And then Pennywong basically called
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Speaker 3: for Israel to back down. She didn't overtly support its
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Speaker 3: attacks on the Iranian nuclear facilities Israel or America's by
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Speaker 3: the way, and she demanded de escalation.
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Speaker 4: Are you critical of this decision from Israel?
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Speaker 5: We would say what we have to do now is
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Speaker 5: to de escalate and exercise restraint and we have to
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Speaker 5: return to dialogue.
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Speaker 3: The Albanezi government has not been clear eyed at all.
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Speaker 3: She should have strongly sided with Israel in its effort
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Speaker 3: to confront Iran, and she should have been listed the
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Speaker 3: Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp. As a terrorist organization long ago. Instead,
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Speaker 3: she had a phone call with the Iranian foreign minister
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Speaker 3: who condemned Israel and Zionism. I mean, this is appeasing
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Speaker 3: terrorism and leaving us exposed to very serious threats. And
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Speaker 3: now the Albanesi government continues to pander to Iranian interests
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Speaker 3: by recognizing a Palestinian state while HERMAS is in control
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Speaker 3: and failing to crack down on protesters waving flags of
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Speaker 3: the Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatole Kamana Ayatola Kramani. Now, government
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Speaker 3: ministers have today refused to apologize all day. They refuse
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Speaker 3: to apologize for not prescribing the IIGC as a terrorist
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Speaker 3: group earlier, and as you know by now, the Coalition
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Speaker 3: has been demanding this since February twenty twenty three, two
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Speaker 3: and a half years ago, but the Prime Minister wouldn't
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Speaker 3: even properly respond to questions in Parliament about why he
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Speaker 3: hadn't acted.
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Speaker 6: So we called on the government to expel the ambassador
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Speaker 6: last year and demanded the IRGC be listed as a
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Speaker 6: terrorist organization more than two years ago. Since then, the
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Speaker 6: Iranian regime has sponsored attacks on Australian soil. Prime Minister,
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Speaker 6: why didn't you act sooner when the warnings were so
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Speaker 6: clear and the risks so grave?
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Speaker 7: The bipartisanship that, to quote yesterday, we offer unequivocal bipartisan
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Speaker 7: support to what is the response to the government and
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Speaker 7: the statement. I want to make it abundantly clear on
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Speaker 7: behalf of the coalition that while we sit opposite from
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Speaker 7: the government in this chamber, we are entirely united beyond
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Speaker 7: them behind the measures announced hasn't lasted that long.
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Speaker 3: So of course he didn't answer the question, and he
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Speaker 3: did let Australians down by failing to list the IRGC
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Speaker 3: as a terrorist organization, and then embarrassingly when he was
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Speaker 3: speaking about the threat of a today Alban Easy referred
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Speaker 3: to a television show seriously.
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Speaker 8: Then we turned our mind to Okay, what's the response
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Speaker 8: given what Iran has a history of engaging with not
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Speaker 8: respecting diplomats, including most famously of course, pretty good movie
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Speaker 8: I've got to say about about the US situation.
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Speaker 3: I mean, let's hope he's not so uneducated that this
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Speaker 3: is his main reference point for the threat of Iran,
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Speaker 3: a fictional.
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Speaker 2: TV series or a movie.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he needs to know that Iran poses a
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Speaker 3: grave threat to all of us in the West, even
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Speaker 3: here in Australia. And it is terrifying to know that Australians,
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Speaker 3: Australians have been a target for this murderous regime and
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Speaker 3: now we live knowing that there are concerns about retaliation
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Speaker 3: from Iran. This is a threat to Australia, not just Jews,
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Speaker 3: but Australia, a sovereign country. National security expert Peter Jennings
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Speaker 3: says that while Iran is behind this, there is also
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Speaker 3: an Australian dimension that is yet to be explained, and
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Speaker 3: he writes in The Australian about how people based in
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Speaker 3: Australia lit fires spread accelerants, drove cars, graffited and conducted
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Speaker 3: the fire bombings, and he argues that Albin Ezy should
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Speaker 3: apologize to the Jewish community. He writes, the impact and
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Speaker 3: seriousness of threats and intimidation was minimized for too long.
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Speaker 3: He'll be on the show a bit later, by the way.
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Speaker 3: But importantly, Jennings calls out the pro Palestinian protest movement,
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Speaker 3: saying that at its fringes, it poses a threat to
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Speaker 3: national security.
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Speaker 2: He argues this, he says, we see on.
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Speaker 3: Our television screens the these protests are not simply comprised
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Speaker 3: of good spirited people wanting peace in the Middle East.
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Speaker 3: There are individuals holding the Hamask flag and carrying pictures
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Speaker 3: of the Iranian Supreme Leader. He says, the Palestinian protest
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Speaker 3: movement remains, at its fringes, a dangerous cauldron of extremist
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Speaker 3: ideology which we now know is vulnerable to manipulation by
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Speaker 3: foreign governments. Really well written article. Now I showed you
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Speaker 3: last night some of these images where the likes of
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Speaker 3: Bob Carr and Julian Assange were standing at the Harbor
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Speaker 3: Bridge rally with a protest with a poster of Kamani
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Speaker 3: behind them, the Iran Supreme Leader.
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Speaker 2: Now they said they weren't aware of the poster or
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Speaker 2: who he was.
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Speaker 3: But it turns out that Bob Krr met with the
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Speaker 3: Iranian ambassador in September twenty twenty three, and the Iranian
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Speaker 3: ambassador posted that photograph in his social media and he
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Speaker 3: said that he found Bobka a thoughtful politician, having far
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Speaker 3: sighted viewpoints towards Australian national interest. He'd got some practical
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Speaker 3: advices on the benefment of Iranian and Australian relations as well.
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Speaker 3: That was his language, the Iranian ambassador. And there's also
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Speaker 3: been from Iran an effort to get journalists on side
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Speaker 3: as well. The ambassador met with David Crowe and Matthew
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Speaker 3: Not from the City Morning Herald and Andrew Tillett from
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Speaker 3: the Financial Review in June last year. And again the
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Speaker 3: Ambassador wrote about that meeting and he said we agreed
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Speaker 3: upon many grounds and prospects for further development of Iranian
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Speaker 3: Australian bilateral relations. Now, of course, these journalists and Bobka
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Speaker 3: are definitely smarter than to fall for Iran's propaganda, Let's
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Speaker 3: be clear about that. And now the Ambassador's time is up,
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Speaker 3: so he'll be having no more meetings where he attempts
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Speaker 3: to woo people over. He's been filmed today at his
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Speaker 3: residence in Canberra. Journalist Leah Mendes approached.
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Speaker 2: Him with important questions that he.
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Speaker 3: Wouldn't answer and if you watch closely now you can
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Speaker 3: see in the video removallest boxes being carried into the residents.
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Speaker 9: Mister ambassador, do you have anything to say to the
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Speaker 9: Australian public? Is Iran responsible for these attacks on Australian soil,
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Speaker 9: mister ambassador, Mister ambassador, do you have anything to say
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Speaker 9: to the Australian public?
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Speaker 10: Sir, mister ambassador, surely you have something to say to
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Speaker 10: the Australian people.
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Speaker 3: Alice and the Ambassador Sadaghi now has forty eight hours
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Speaker 3: left to leave the country. And its good riddance to
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Speaker 3: someone who should have been booted from Australia by the
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Speaker 3: Albanese government a long time ago. Former Liberal Senator Linda
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Speaker 3: Reynolds has had an extraordinary and well deserved victory today.
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Speaker 3: She's been awarded three hundred and forty thousand dollars in
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Speaker 3: damages after the WA Supreme Court found she had been
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Speaker 3: defamed by Britney Higgins. Now, Reynolds sued her former staff
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Speaker 3: member over a series of social media posts which implied
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Speaker 3: that the Senator had pressured Britney Higgins not to report
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Speaker 3: her alleged her alleged rape against the now disgraced Bruce Lehman,
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Speaker 3: and that she'd waged a campaign of harassment. Neither Higgins
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Speaker 3: nor her husband, David Scheraz gave evidence in the case.
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Speaker 3: And here's what Linda Reynolds had to say outside court today.
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Speaker 11: It is a great relief that my reputation has been
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Speaker 11: finally and fully vindicated. However, it is disappointing that it
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Speaker 11: took four and a half years, multiple court actions, and
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Speaker 11: millions of dollars.
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Speaker 3: Now, the issue wasn't the rape, which Justice Michael Lee
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Speaker 3: found in all probability did happen. The issue was how
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Speaker 3: this was politicized and weaponized against Linda Reynolds and the
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Speaker 3: former Morrison government. And Raynolds spoke very strongly about this
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Speaker 3: outside court.
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Speaker 11: I was falsely accused of conspiring with the then Prime
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Speaker 11: Minister to cover up the rape of a young woman
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Speaker 11: in my office. This lie was so shocking, it was
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Speaker 11: so despicable and so devastating that I had no choice
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Speaker 11: but to stand up tool and keep fighting, no matter
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Speaker 11: how many times I was knocked down again.
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Speaker 3: This is not about Britney Higgins's allegation of rape. It's
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Speaker 3: about how it was weaponized for political purposes, how it
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Speaker 3: was used to destroy the Morrison government. And Linda Edold
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Speaker 3: spoke today about carefully curated lies told by Higgins, by
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Speaker 3: David Chiaz and people she described as their.
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Speaker 2: Co conspirators, and what they all put.
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Speaker 3: Reynald's through is absolutely disgusting. She was very emotional as
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Speaker 3: she detailed how much that lie, the lie that she
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Speaker 3: covered up the rape, has cost her.
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Speaker 11: Those lies cost me my reputation, it cost me my health.
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Speaker 11: This has been an incredibly emotionally and financially texting journey.
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Speaker 11: But I never gave up on the truth and on
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Speaker 11: seeking justice.
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Speaker 3: And Reynald is right to say that this is a
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Speaker 3: fabricated me too, political hit job, and it did end
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Speaker 3: up financially benefiting Britney Higgins.
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Speaker 11: The gross, the very gross politicization allowed Miss Higgins to
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Speaker 11: procure a multi million dollar settlement, a settlement that is
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Speaker 11: clearly based on a litany of lies.
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Speaker 3: In a scathing judgment, Justice Tottle outlined twenty six occasions
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Speaker 3: where he said Brittany Higgins's statements made in her media
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Speaker 3: interviews had been objectively false or misleading. The judge found
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Speaker 3: Higgins and Sharaz wanted to inflict political damage to Reynolds.
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Speaker 2: Here's what it says in.
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Speaker 3: The judgment, he wrote, it is clear such damage was
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Speaker 3: intended by making the disclosure at the beginning of a
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Speaker 3: sitting week and ensuring the plaintiff's political opponents were briefed
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Speaker 3: with the materials necessary to question her in the Senate.
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Speaker 3: The judge also referred to a comment of David Schiraz
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Speaker 3: where he said that two cabinet ministers were among the
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Speaker 3: ultimate targets. He also referred to personal hostil from Charatz.
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Speaker 3: The judgment states the cover up claim was particularly significant.
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Speaker 3: It was a sensational claim, asshured of attracting media interest,
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Speaker 3: but it was untrue, and he went on to say
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Speaker 3: that it was ultimately impossible for Linda Reynolds to defend herself.
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Speaker 3: The simple but untrue story that Reynolds had been involved
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Speaker 3: in a cover up of the rape of the defendant
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Speaker 3: by a rising star of the Liberal Party was so
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Speaker 3: sensational and achieved such currency it was impossible for the
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Speaker 3: plaintiff to defend herself effectively. Now on this program, we
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Speaker 3: did a series of reports on all of this two
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Speaker 3: years ago where we played the tapes about what Lisa Wilkinson,
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Speaker 3: the TV host who first was one of the journals
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Speaker 3: who first broke the story and David Scheraz had said
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Speaker 3: about Linda Reynolds have a.
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Speaker 11: Look thanks that she thought, I feel short, I know.
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Speaker 6: I know, I remember idiot And it was literally about
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Speaker 6: when after I had the exchange with.
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Speaker 2: Her and I just said, this idiot is everywhere. This
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Speaker 2: idiot is everywhere.
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Speaker 3: She also calls her in other parts of the interview
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Speaker 3: a nobody.
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Speaker 2: So that was.
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Speaker 3: Lisa Wilkinson discussing with David Sharraz what an idiot Linda
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Speaker 3: Reynolds was. So from the very moment of inception, when
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Speaker 3: this story was first discussed, Linda Reynolds was a target.
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Speaker 3: The friendly politicians they spoke about were Anthony Albanizi, Tanya Plebisek,
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Speaker 3: and Katie Gallagher. And when Reynolds was eventually demoted, Shiraz
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Speaker 3: and Higgins celebrated in a text message when Linda Reynolds
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Speaker 3: was eventually demoted. Over all of this, the pair celebrated
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Speaker 3: with Sharraz texting Britney Higgins saying, suck Shi t Linda,
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Speaker 3: you awful human. Now, Linda renoldd says she's not holding
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Speaker 3: her breath waiting for an apology from the Albanezy government,
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Speaker 3: but in my view they certainly owe her one, all right,
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Speaker 3: And joining me now our regular Wednesday panel labor legend
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Speaker 3: Graham Richardson and former Victorian Liberal Party president Michael Kroger.
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Speaker 2: And Michael, welcome back.
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Speaker 3: We've missed you the past couple of weeks and I
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Speaker 3: want to start by just getting both of your reaction
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Speaker 3: to Linda Reynolds winning court today. Now The Australian is
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Speaker 3: tonight reporting online that Brittany Higgins could lose all of
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Speaker 3: her two point four million dollar Commonwealth payout because as
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Speaker 3: well as the three hundred and forty thousand dollars in damages,
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Speaker 3: she also has to pay Reynolds extensive and you'd imagine
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Speaker 3: they would be extensive her legal fees. Now, Richo, do
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Speaker 3: you agree with me that this issue was clearly weaponized
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Speaker 3: for political purposes against Scott Morrison and his government?
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Speaker 2: Rich Are you that.
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Speaker 12: Oh, sorry, I thought you're asking Michael.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm asking asking you.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think I think I would find it pretty
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Speaker 12: hard to disagree with that it was weaponized, and it
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Speaker 12: was weaponized brilliantly. But whether that's a good thing or
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Speaker 12: a bad thing, I'll leave up to you now.
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Speaker 3: Michael, you can't help but feel incredibly sorry for Linda
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Speaker 3: for all that this has cost her.
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Speaker 13: Well, that's absolutely right. But Linda Reynold's otherwise unimpeachable reputation
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Speaker 13: for integrity, decency, and honesty has been fully restored and
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Speaker 13: good honor. And she's gone through this for four and
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Speaker 13: a half years. It's obviously had an incredible effect on
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Speaker 13: her health, on her career, on her finances, and she
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Speaker 13: stood tall, bravely put herself through the witness box, and
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Speaker 13: her reputation is enhanced. I wouldn't say fully restored, it's
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Speaker 13: fully it's enhanced because she was prepared to board her
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Speaker 13: view through the court, which Higgins was not. It raises
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Speaker 13: a couple of other instant questions. The payout to Higgins,
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Speaker 13: which was based on a number of statements that she
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Speaker 13: were prepared to sign to to say that everything I'm
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Speaker 13: telling the Commonwealth is true, and correct before she was
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Speaker 13: able to get her payout. There would have to be
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Speaker 13: questions now it's about whether the payment to Higgins was
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Speaker 13: lawfully made and finally, was this weaponized. It was appallingly
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Speaker 13: weaponized by Albanisi and Gallagher and then later on by
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Speaker 13: Wog exploiting Higgins who went along with it, obviously, but
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Speaker 13: she was exploited initially by Albanize using this for political purposes,
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Speaker 13: and the shame is on the Prime Minister and Gallagher
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Speaker 13: in particular Chari.
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Speaker 3: I just think this was the most one of the
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Speaker 3: most outrageous sagas in recent Australian political history.
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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, a duty.
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Speaker 3: Of care to a young woman that you know, a
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Speaker 3: judge has now found the rape in or likely happened,
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Speaker 3: but help her privately. Instead, this played out in the
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Speaker 3: Parliament day after day. It forced a minister to have
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Speaker 3: to resign. It was it was weaponized so strongly against
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Speaker 3: Scott Morrison that he you know, really struggled in the campaign.
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Speaker 2: It almost destroyed him.
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Speaker 3: It was painted as a misogynist and the evidence was.
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Speaker 2: Never there that there was a cover up. It just
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Speaker 2: did not stack up.
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Speaker 3: This is some of the most revolting behavior from the
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Speaker 3: likes of Katie Gallagher and Penny Wong, you know that
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Speaker 3: we've ever seen and that you know, they just will
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Speaker 3: move past this no accountability. I mean, everyone should be
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Speaker 3: furious about this. Anyway, Let's turn to this big.
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Speaker 2: Story, terrible tragic story in Victoria.
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Speaker 3: A major manhunt is still underway for a heavily armed suspect,
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Speaker 3: Deisi Freeman. He allegedly killed two police officers who were
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Speaker 3: just trying.
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Speaker 2: To carry out a search warrant.
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Speaker 3: Let's have a quick look at Victoria's chief police commissioner
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Speaker 3: this morning.
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Speaker 13: People know that area better than us, so that's why
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Speaker 13: we're putting in every expert and supported by local knowledge
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Speaker 13: as well.
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Speaker 3: I mean, rich O, this is just terribly sad for
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Speaker 3: the police community, but also it's a huge worry he's
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Speaker 3: still armed and at large.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think this is a staggeringly bad story. I've
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Speaker 12: been watching it all day and honestly, it's it almost
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Speaker 12: brings you the tears. I think the way that they've
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Speaker 12: behaved here, I think, you know, sometimes you just look
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Speaker 12: at these stories and you wonder what our world has
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Speaker 12: come to and how it ever got there.
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Speaker 3: I agree, Now, Michaels is a self proclaimed sovereign citizen.
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Speaker 3: He has a well done documented hatred of police. I
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Speaker 3: suppose that's why ten police officers went to carry out
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Speaker 3: the search warrant. You know, what do you think about
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Speaker 3: the concerning rise in this sort of behavior.
24:12
Speaker 13: Well, we see a lot in Victoria. We have extremists
24:15
Speaker 13: of the left and right, as we've discussed before. We
24:19
Speaker 13: have now Nazis that walk down the streets in Melbourne
24:23
Speaker 13: in our country towns. We have Jewish hating racists, some
24:28
Speaker 13: of whom appear every Sunday in Melbourne. We have fire bombings,
24:34
Speaker 13: you know, fueled by overseas criminal gangs, et cetera, etc.
24:39
Speaker 13: This is shocking, but Victoria is basically a laws state,
24:44
Speaker 13: I'm sorry to say. And we've seen the shocking consequences
24:48
Speaker 13: when two wonderful young policemen have lost their lives. I mean,
24:53
Speaker 13: you know, your heart goes out to them, but you
24:56
Speaker 13: know what it does is reaffirm in your mind how
24:58
Speaker 13: important the police are in our country on a pedestal
25:03
Speaker 13: that they should be because these are the finest Australians.
25:07
Speaker 13: That there are men and women who go to work
25:10
Speaker 13: every day whose lives are at risk. And this is
25:13
Speaker 13: what happens to them and those people that attack the
25:17
Speaker 13: Victoria police and the police around the country, and we
25:21
Speaker 13: see it most Sundays in Victoria. You know, shame on them.
25:24
Speaker 13: It's disgusting. These are these men and women are amongst
25:27
Speaker 13: the finest Australians we have.
25:29
Speaker 2: No I completely agree.
25:30
Speaker 3: It's just so sad and also so sad for the
25:33
Speaker 3: families of those.
25:34
Speaker 2: Two police officers who were killed. Now, let's turn to
25:38
Speaker 2: the economy.
25:38
Speaker 3: In our new figures today, headline annual inflation has increased
25:42
Speaker 3: to its highest in a year. It's risen from one
25:45
Speaker 3: point nine percent to two point eight percent, and this
25:49
Speaker 3: comes after electricity prices also increased thirteen percent in the
25:54
Speaker 3: year to July. Now, Richo, the government argues that inflation,
25:58
Speaker 3: you know, we heard Jim charm It's today, that just
26:00
Speaker 3: ticked up in July, and he says it's still below
26:04
Speaker 3: the Reserve Banks target band. But you know, still not
26:08
Speaker 3: great news.
26:09
Speaker 2: People are still doing it really tough. Life is so expensive.
26:14
Speaker 12: Yeah, I agree, it's not great news. I think it's
26:17
Speaker 12: good news, but not great news. But you know, I
26:21
Speaker 12: don't know exactly what Charmers is going to do here.
26:26
Speaker 12: You can't talk the economy around keeping tried that didn't work.
26:32
Speaker 12: You know, you have to do something, and I'll be
26:35
Speaker 12: fascinated to see what that's something is.
26:38
Speaker 3: But Richard, they're just going to increase taxes on retirees,
26:41
Speaker 3: aren't they.
26:42
Speaker 10: Well, I have not.
26:44
Speaker 12: I think you know, I've said this so many times.
26:50
Speaker 12: We have to leave SUPER alone. We have to leave
26:55
Speaker 12: the ability for people to plan their futures after they've
27:00
Speaker 12: stopped working.
27:02
Speaker 10: We have to just leave that.
27:04
Speaker 12: We can't interfere with it at all because everybody is
27:09
Speaker 12: entitled to some degree of certainty.
27:12
Speaker 3: And yet you know, SUPER is being taxed, and it
27:15
Speaker 3: looks like there will be a raft of other wealth taxes.
27:18
Speaker 3: We spoke about this on Monday Nights program. Michael, do
27:22
Speaker 3: you think the rising inflation is ultimately down to the
27:25
Speaker 3: federal government's energy policies.
27:28
Speaker 13: Well, it's partly responsible. I mean, the more renewable energy have,
27:32
Speaker 13: the higher the energy prices. That's a worldwide phenomena for
27:37
Speaker 13: all the reasons we know. And sooner or later these
27:39
Speaker 13: subsidies will run out, which means which is one of
27:41
Speaker 13: the reasons that inflation was higher because of the fact
27:44
Speaker 13: that some of these subsidies were delayed but when they
27:47
Speaker 13: run out at the end of the year, inflation's going
27:49
Speaker 13: to jump again, or Gym's going to have to pay
27:52
Speaker 13: more subsidies. Well, he can't keep doing that. I mean,
27:54
Speaker 13: the country's going broke. We're about to have one point
27:57
Speaker 13: two trillion dollars worth of debt. The French economy, Frances
28:00
Speaker 13: going broke, Britain's going broken a few years time. America's
28:03
Speaker 13: got thirty nine trillion dollars US dollars of debt. If
28:06
Speaker 13: they keep going the way they're going, they'll go broke.
28:09
Speaker 13: I mean, this is a worldwide phenomenon in the West
28:11
Speaker 13: that no government wants to tackle debt. Well, you know,
28:14
Speaker 13: sooner or later you'll get whacked by a big stick,
28:16
Speaker 13: and you know, governments will be forced to sack public servants,
28:19
Speaker 13: closed schools, hospitals, whatever. Throughout the Western world. The labor
28:23
Speaker 13: government Britain had to try and desperately cut benefits for
28:26
Speaker 13: disability pensioners, which they couldn't get through the parliament because
28:30
Speaker 13: they're going broke there. So you know, this is the problem.
28:34
Speaker 13: You can't subsidize your way to wealth, and that's exactly
28:36
Speaker 13: what Charmers is trying to do. And this is why
28:39
Speaker 13: debt's increasing so much. He doesn't have the capacity, the will,
28:42
Speaker 13: or the strength, or the experience or the political courage
28:45
Speaker 13: to take on debt. And that's the problem in Australia today.
28:49
Speaker 3: I mean, just very quickly, Rich, I mean, when you
28:51
Speaker 3: were sitting in cabinet meetings the spending and the debt
28:56
Speaker 3: levels were nothing like they are today.
28:58
Speaker 2: Does it just blow your mind?
29:01
Speaker 12: And it's actually pretty stagg greg, isn't it. I do
29:04
Speaker 12: remember where the debt levels were. I do remember sitting
29:09
Speaker 12: in the ERC and I'm stunned that we are where
29:13
Speaker 12: we are. It's just it's a very sad thing. Australia
29:18
Speaker 12: is better than that.
29:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should be better than that.
29:21
Speaker 3: But it seems both sides of politics have lost the
29:24
Speaker 3: appetite to actually tackle spending. I mean, and it's down
29:28
Speaker 3: to the fact that the public won't put up with
29:30
Speaker 3: any cuts. Maybe we need a politician who can argue
29:32
Speaker 3: the case better. I mean, the last Prime minister who
29:34
Speaker 3: tried to actually repair the budget was Tony Abbott with
29:38
Speaker 3: Joe Hockey, and again debt levels were nothing like the
29:41
Speaker 3: one trillion dollars that they're going to that the forecast
29:44
Speaker 3: to hit this financial year, right, Mane, I'm not happy.
29:47
Speaker 12: I might have to make a comeback. I think that's
29:50
Speaker 12: the only way through this.
29:52
Speaker 3: We'll vacuu in, rich O, We'll vacuu in, all right,
29:56
Speaker 3: Gray Richardson, Michael Kroger, great to see you. Let's return
30:00
Speaker 3: to the top story Iran's attacks. And I'm pleased to
30:03
Speaker 3: have live in studio tonight. Israel's special envoy for combating
30:07
Speaker 3: anti Semitism, Michail Kotta Winch. Michal, thank you very much
30:12
Speaker 3: for joining us and great to have you here in Australia.
30:14
Speaker 3: Nice to meet you in person. I've only interviewed you
30:17
Speaker 3: before over the screen. I want to get your reaction
30:20
Speaker 3: to the revelations by the Australian government yesterday that Iran
30:24
Speaker 3: is behind two terror attacks on Australian soil.
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Speaker 5: Look, this is devastating, Cherry, because it's a continuation of
30:31
Speaker 5: Iran actually engaging in transnational aggression, including great here in Australia.
30:37
Speaker 5: And we've known for a long time that across the West,
30:41
Speaker 5: Iran is actually engaged in exactly the kinds of anti
30:45
Speaker 5: Semitic acts that we saw right here in Melbourne, in Sydney,
30:48
Speaker 5: and I'll say in other countries around the world, in Canada,
30:51
Speaker 5: across Europe and otherwise Iran, and I'll say we have
30:55
Speaker 5: to differentiate the people of Iran from the criminal Islamic
30:59
Speaker 5: regime in Iran. And that is perhaps the point that
31:02
Speaker 5: we need to be making criminal Islamic regime in Iran,
31:06
Speaker 5: the tortures and executes the people of Iran, that continues
31:10
Speaker 5: to sponsor terror around the world, the likes of which
31:13
Speaker 5: we saw right here in Australia, that openly declares the
31:17
Speaker 5: intent to collapse the foundations of our democracies and destroy
31:20
Speaker 5: the West, the big devil being the United States, the
31:22
Speaker 5: little devil being Israel, and that of course fuels and
31:26
Speaker 5: funds the genocidal terror entities that has been raging war
31:31
Speaker 5: on the state of Israel on and since October the seventh,
31:33
Speaker 5: and that itself has attacked Israel on. So that is
31:37
Speaker 5: the regime. We have to be very clear about what
31:41
Speaker 5: it is that is threatening our shared civilization as the
31:45
Speaker 5: head of an axis of evil that this Islamic regime
31:48
Speaker 5: is including right here in Australia in a breach of sovereignty,
31:52
Speaker 5: in what should be out and outrage to every single Australian.
31:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just on that point.
31:57
Speaker 3: I mean, these were clearly attacks on two Jewish sides,
32:01
Speaker 3: anti Semitic attacks. But really, when you have a foreign
32:04
Speaker 3: government allchestrating attacks on Australian soil, this is an attack
32:09
Speaker 3: by Iran on Australia, isn't.
32:11
Speaker 5: It, And that is how it should be regarded. I'll
32:14
Speaker 5: say very clearly, Look, i am israel Special Envoy for
32:16
Speaker 5: Combating Antisemitism. For the last twenty two months of traveled
32:20
Speaker 5: around the world first to alert of a tsunami of
32:23
Speaker 5: anti semitism arise of hundreds of percentages, including acts right
32:28
Speaker 5: here that attacked Jews and Jewish institutions.
32:31
Speaker 2: And we have to also.
32:33
Speaker 5: Lay it out Zionists, because you need not be a
32:36
Speaker 5: Jew to be the target of this strain of anti semitism,
32:38
Speaker 5: that is anti Zionism. But that is not all that
32:41
Speaker 5: we have seen. What we've seen in the last twenty
32:43
Speaker 5: two months in the responses of governments, including responses of
32:47
Speaker 5: the government of this country, is the normalization of anti Semitism.
32:51
Speaker 5: It's becoming ambyond acceptable antisemitism and mirroring that is the
32:56
Speaker 5: normalization of terror and tyranny. That is what the world
33:01
Speaker 5: needs to be very clear on and the understanding that
33:04
Speaker 5: it is Iran that is threatening literally global peace, and
33:09
Speaker 5: that these antisemitic acts, including the two that have been
33:12
Speaker 5: clearly called out and for which the Iranian ambassador has
33:17
Speaker 5: been expelled, It's not just an ambassador that should be expelled,
33:21
Speaker 5: it's the criminal Islamic regime that should be expelled from
33:23
Speaker 5: the family of nations. I'll have all of our viewers
33:26
Speaker 5: know that on October the eighth, ironically, of course, the
33:29
Speaker 5: day after the attack two years ago, on October the seventh,
33:33
Speaker 5: twenty twenty three, Iran will again become a member of
33:37
Speaker 5: the Human of the UN Human Rights Council.
33:40
Speaker 2: I saw that today inexplicab.
33:42
Speaker 5: So the imperative to begin to connect the dots and
33:45
Speaker 5: to understand that we are fighting, as I said, a
33:48
Speaker 5: war of Barber's Month civilization. October the seventh, like September eleventh,
33:54
Speaker 5: was the attack of Barbara's Month civilization. It was not
33:57
Speaker 5: just an attack on israelis on Israel and the war
34:00
Speaker 5: that it waged that has been raging since, including today
34:03
Speaker 5: where sirens were heard, that has been completely ignored by
34:07
Speaker 5: many many parts in the West, is a part of
34:10
Speaker 5: the imperative that we have I.
34:11
Speaker 3: Mean you said you travel around the world, You've been
34:13
Speaker 3: to twenty two countries. I mean, we don't have an
34:16
Speaker 3: hour to talk about this.
34:17
Speaker 2: You've just got to admitte or sorry.
34:19
Speaker 3: But what have been the most effective strategies to deal
34:23
Speaker 3: with antisemitism?
34:25
Speaker 5: Look, as with everything else, in order to be able
34:27
Speaker 5: to combat something, we have to be able to identify it,
34:29
Speaker 5: and to identify it, we need to define it.
34:32
Speaker 2: There is a.
34:33
Speaker 5: Definition of antisemitism. The International Holocaust Rememborance aligns definition of antisemitism.
34:38
Speaker 5: It is a critical resource that enables to identify antisemitism
34:42
Speaker 5: in all of its strains. I said an ever mutating eight.
34:45
Speaker 5: I included anti Zionism as the modern mutated strain of
34:48
Speaker 5: antisemitism exactly. But we have to be able to identify
34:50
Speaker 5: all strains. We understand post COVID. If a virus mutates,
34:54
Speaker 5: we have to be able to identify all of its
34:56
Speaker 5: strains to combat it comprehensively. The International holocoust Rememberence Aligns
34:59
Speaker 5: to Finian enables to identify all examples of anti Semitism.
35:04
Speaker 5: There are eleven examples there, whether it's in academic spaces
35:06
Speaker 5: and educational spaces and cultural spaces and art spaces, in cities,
35:10
Speaker 5: in government, wherever it is, in international institutions. We mention
35:13
Speaker 5: the UN to be able to combat anti Semitism, we
35:16
Speaker 5: have to identify all of its strains, and allowing some
35:19
Speaker 5: strains to run rampant means we are not combating it.
35:21
Speaker 2: Are you meeting the government? Why are you here the
35:23
Speaker 2: federal government?
35:24
Speaker 5: I am I will be in Camper next week. I'll
35:26
Speaker 5: be speaking at a conference of anti Semitism, and I
35:28
Speaker 5: will drive home as I.
35:29
Speaker 2: Do everywhere, meeting any minister's I am meeting only.
35:32
Speaker 5: The leader of the opposition at the moment, and I
35:35
Speaker 5: very much hope only the.
35:36
Speaker 2: Leader of the opposition. Suasanly, you're not meeting anyone from
35:38
Speaker 2: the Albanezy government. Sorry to put you on the spot
35:40
Speaker 2: question the moment.
35:41
Speaker 5: I am sure that I'm open to meeting with anybody
35:45
Speaker 5: that will meet me as I do everywhere in the
35:47
Speaker 5: world meeting. I believe that the Israeli embassy is requested
35:49
Speaker 5: as many meetings as possible, and I will let's hope
35:52
Speaker 5: that continue to hope that they will happen.
35:54
Speaker 3: I need your advice, Michael, thank you very much for
35:56
Speaker 3: joining us.
35:57
Speaker 5: Thank you and thank you for the opportunity to engage
35:59
Speaker 5: in this topic that I do believe is not just
36:01
Speaker 5: an issue for Jews or for Israel, but in fact
36:03
Speaker 5: for Australia. As you have said, and as we signed
36:05
Speaker 5: the last few days.
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Speaker 3: Agreed, Well, thank you for your hard work on the topic.
36:10
Speaker 3: Now still to come. More and Around's attacks on Australia
36:12
Speaker 3: with Israeli Deputy Foreign Affairs Minister Sharen Haskell.
36:16
Speaker 2: That's later in the show.
36:17
Speaker 3: Plus is the alban easy government jeopardizing orcus Defense expert
36:21
Speaker 3: Peter Jennings is up next.
36:27
Speaker 2: Welcome Back with Deputy Prime Minister Richard.
36:30
Speaker 3: Miles secured last minute meetings with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth
36:34
Speaker 3: and Vice President Jadie Vance on his trip to Washington
36:37
Speaker 3: to discuss Johnny Minnow Strategic Analysis Australia Director Peter Jennings.
36:42
Speaker 2: Peter, so good to see you again.
36:44
Speaker 3: Look this, you'd assume must have been a big relief
36:47
Speaker 3: for Miles, because this was the reason for his visit,
36:50
Speaker 3: and yet the meetings weren't confirmed until last night.
36:56
Speaker 14: Yes, that's pretty ham fisted, isn't it. Charrion and I
36:59
Speaker 14: have to say that you know Miles first met heg
37:02
Speaker 14: Seth three months ago in Singapore at the Shangri La dialogue.
37:06
Speaker 14: That's where meg Seth said, we think Australia should be
37:08
Speaker 14: spending three and a half percent of GDP on defense.
37:13
Speaker 14: So Miles has had three months since that time to
37:16
Speaker 14: get his act in order and to find an opportunity
37:19
Speaker 14: to go and have a discussion with Hegseth. So why
37:22
Speaker 14: the panic, you know, why this hasty trip during a
37:26
Speaker 14: parliamentary sitting period to get over to DC to find
37:29
Speaker 14: that he doesn't actually have a substantive meeting lined up.
37:33
Speaker 14: I understand that really what they had was more a
37:35
Speaker 14: photo opportunity than a discussion. And then Miles cancels his
37:39
Speaker 14: press conference afterwards. Sharry, And one thing I can tell
37:42
Speaker 14: you about the Albanese government is they liked their press conferences.
37:45
Speaker 14: So canceling it says to me that whatever Myles heard
37:49
Speaker 14: it wasn't positive. And I presume he's coming back now
37:52
Speaker 14: to have some sort of crisis meeting with the national
37:54
Speaker 14: security team of the government to work out what they
37:57
Speaker 14: can do. I think the message that's going to come
37:59
Speaker 14: from the United States is they expect Australia to lift
38:02
Speaker 14: its game on defense and on ORCUS, and that's probably
38:06
Speaker 14: the message that was delivered to Marson pretty firm.
38:08
Speaker 2: Language, and especially if he met with JD. Vance.
38:12
Speaker 3: We've seen how jd Vance can deal with allies like
38:17
Speaker 3: Ukraine in that famous Oval Office meeting, so he wouldn't
38:20
Speaker 3: have minced his words in demanding that Australia does lift
38:23
Speaker 3: its spending. I mean, this is his whole persona or ideology.
38:28
Speaker 3: You know, he wanted the Europeans to pay more. He's
38:31
Speaker 3: very strong on this point. So I agree with your
38:34
Speaker 3: analysis that they would have held a press conference most
38:38
Speaker 3: likely if the Orcas issue was resolved. And to me,
38:43
Speaker 3: there is some concern about the US Australia alliance. I mean,
38:46
Speaker 3: particularly the Albanesi government's foreign policy is no longer aligned
38:50
Speaker 3: with Americas, and the Americans were not happy about his
38:54
Speaker 3: recent trip to China.
38:59
Speaker 14: So look, it's pretty clear that I don't think Miles
39:02
Speaker 14: expected to go over there and hear from Vance and
39:06
Speaker 14: hegseth that. In fact, unlike every other country in the world,
39:10
Speaker 14: the Americans thought Australia was doing a fantastic job spending
39:13
Speaker 14: two percent of gross domestic product on defense. I don't
39:16
Speaker 14: think Miles was going to hear that. And as you say,
39:19
Speaker 14: there are serious points of difference. They think we are
39:23
Speaker 14: dramatically underspending. They think that we're not doing enough to
39:26
Speaker 14: deliver the successful handover of nuclear submarine technology to the
39:31
Speaker 14: Australian Navy, and they think that we're not on the
39:34
Speaker 14: same page with regard to China that we see and
39:38
Speaker 14: talk about China in terms very differently to the United States.
39:43
Speaker 14: And in addition, of course, to recognition of Palestine. So
39:48
Speaker 14: there's a raft of issues where our government is now
39:51
Speaker 14: increasingly out of tune with what's happening in Washington, DC.
39:55
Speaker 14: That's all fine, as Anthony Albanezi says, where we can
39:58
Speaker 14: make our sovereign decisions about these things. But the Americans
40:02
Speaker 14: can also make their sovereign decisions about how effective or
40:05
Speaker 14: ineffective they think the defense relationship is with Australia. And
40:09
Speaker 14: I think that's where the tough messages would have been
40:11
Speaker 14: put to Richard Moss on this visit.
40:14
Speaker 3: Just before you go, we've seen that Around's foreign minister
40:17
Speaker 3: has vowed to retaliate after its ambassador was expelled and
40:22
Speaker 3: Australia suspended the consulate in Tehran or the embassy in Tehran.
40:27
Speaker 2: Peter, what do you take this to mean.
40:29
Speaker 3: Precisely a retaliation. I mean, how worried should we be
40:34
Speaker 3: about our safety here?
40:38
Speaker 14: I take it to mean that the Islamic Republic Guard's Core,
40:42
Speaker 14: which is the entity that's been prosecuting a strangulation strategy
40:46
Speaker 14: against Israel for twenty years and has been responsible for
40:50
Speaker 14: commissioning acts of terrorism all around the world, that they're
40:54
Speaker 14: not going away, and they've been discovered in commission of
40:59
Speaker 14: too in all likelihood more acts of terrorism in Australia.
41:04
Speaker 14: But I think their reaction to that is well, we're
41:07
Speaker 14: going to keep going and we're going to continue to
41:09
Speaker 14: see what havoc and disruption we can raise in Australia's Shari.
41:13
Speaker 14: So the government has an ASIO and the police have
41:17
Speaker 14: I think very successfully exposed the Iranians for what has
41:23
Speaker 14: happened on this occasion. But that doesn't mean to say
41:26
Speaker 14: that they're now going to give up in In fact, on
41:27
Speaker 14: the contrary, I think we should be raising our concerns
41:32
Speaker 14: because we've probably annoyed them now and they will feel
41:34
Speaker 14: that they will have to come back and retaliate in someone.
41:38
Speaker 2: It is a worry, all right.
41:39
Speaker 3: Peter Jennings always love having you on the show. Appreciate
41:41
Speaker 3: your time and.
41:43
Speaker 2: Still to come.
41:43
Speaker 3: Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister Sharan Haskell with Joan Nice to
41:47
Speaker 3: respond to those explosive revelations that Iran carried out terror
41:51
Speaker 3: attacks on our soil.
41:53
Speaker 2: She's next.
41:57
Speaker 3: Welcome back in joining me now is Israel's Deputy Foreign
42:00
Speaker 3: Affairs Minister Sharan Haskell.
42:02
Speaker 2: Sharan, great to see you again.
42:04
Speaker 3: Look, I reported earlier in the show a big exclusive
42:07
Speaker 3: that Israeli intelligence helped Australia during its investigation into how
42:14
Speaker 3: Iran orchestrated the terror attacks on our soil. Israeli intelligence
42:19
Speaker 3: provided a tip or lead. I verified this with confidential
42:23
Speaker 3: sources today. Can you tell us any information about the
42:27
Speaker 3: intelligence Israel was able to provide Australia, So.
42:32
Speaker 1: Charry, I cannot give you any information.
42:35
Speaker 2: I cannot confirm this.
42:37
Speaker 1: What I can tell you is that even though we've
42:41
Speaker 1: had challenges, obviously political challenges, and you know the last
42:45
Speaker 1: two years have been ups and downs on the government
42:48
Speaker 1: to government relationship, but our security relationship have stayed strong
42:53
Speaker 1: throughout the entire time as well. There is a very
42:57
Speaker 1: close security cooperation between Australia and between Israel. It's not
43:02
Speaker 1: about politics, it's about saving lives. It's really lives, Australian lives.
43:07
Speaker 1: You know, it's about creating stability and peace. It's a
43:12
Speaker 1: mutual goal that both countries have as Western democracies.
43:20
Speaker 3: Now, you know, Israel, sorry, Iran is obviously behind a
43:24
Speaker 3: lot of the terrorism that's been directed towards Israel since
43:28
Speaker 3: October seven and long before. But this is a shock
43:31
Speaker 3: to us to have Iran orchestrate the fire bombings of
43:35
Speaker 3: a synagogue and.
43:36
Speaker 2: A Kosher kitchen.
43:38
Speaker 3: You know, do you think it's extraordinary the regime has
43:41
Speaker 3: done this in Australia.
43:44
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised, but I definitely want to congratulate a
43:48
Speaker 1: Zo for a brilliant you know, operation investigation. This doesn't
43:53
Speaker 1: take me in a surprise. Obviously, We've seen how Iran
43:57
Speaker 1: operates all around the world America, Latin America, Africa, Asia,
44:03
Speaker 1: Middle East to Europe. So am I surprised, absolutely not.
44:08
Speaker 1: The IRGC is a terrorist regime. They are the biggest
44:12
Speaker 1: funder of terror around the world. Most of the terrorists
44:15
Speaker 1: attack leads to them all around the world. They are
44:19
Speaker 1: the one who are training arming radical groups, terrorist groups
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Speaker 1: like Isis, like bocohoram Al Schabbab, Chris Bala the hooties.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the same source and it is Iran.
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Speaker 1: The IRGC should have been listed a long time ago
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Speaker 1: as a terrorist organization and I call the rest of
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Speaker 1: countries all around the world to prescribe them as they should.
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Speaker 3: And our government has been under fire over that very
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Speaker 3: point today. Why it was so slow to list the IIGC. Scharan,
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Speaker 3: there's a breaking news tonight that Donald Trump is going
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Speaker 3: to hold a big meeting in the White House on
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Speaker 3: Wednesday to discuss a post war pl and for Gaza.
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Speaker 3: Whitcock confirm this, I believe in an interview with Fox News.
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Speaker 3: What is the current thinking around the governing of Gaza
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Speaker 3: when this war is over?
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Speaker 1: One dem has been working in the last two years
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Speaker 1: without our friends, the Americans and some Abrahamic countries, in
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Speaker 1: order to try and figure out what needs to happen
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Speaker 1: the day after. We don't share much about it because
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Speaker 1: every time someone bring even something small out of it,
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Speaker 1: someone else is trying to sabotage it. And that's why
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Speaker 1: it's been under the radar this entire time. What we
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Speaker 1: know and what we shared before in Prime Minister Natanialla
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Speaker 1: shared before, this has to be a government or a
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Speaker 1: civilian control that Hamas does not take part in it.
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Speaker 1: And for us also the Palestinian authority. Look, if tomorrow
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Speaker 1: there's elections in areas of jude and Sumarity territories with
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Speaker 1: the Palestine Authority, Hamas will win the vote. Every single
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Speaker 1: poll show that. And so literally, if you are giving
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Speaker 1: the control to the Palestinian Authority, it means that within
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Speaker 1: a year, two years, ten years, it will be back
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Speaker 1: in the hands of Hamas, and this is something that
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Speaker 1: we cannot accept. The main conversation that we need to
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Speaker 1: have is about an education, how to change the reality Israel.
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Speaker 1: One's peace, it's real, one's stability, that's all we want.
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Speaker 1: But with an entire population in Gaza that's been indoctrinated
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Speaker 1: by Hamas radicalized, it's very easy for Hamas to recruit
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Speaker 1: terrorists from that population. And so we have to have
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Speaker 1: an in depth discussion about the educations of children in Gaza,
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Speaker 1: about the education of Palestinians towards coexistence, tolerance, peace.
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Speaker 2: Not she had murdered.
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Speaker 1: Them, death and racism. You know the the in every
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Speaker 1: second house in Gaza, we found the book of Nazi,
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Speaker 1: book of Hitler mind. Come this is a population that
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Speaker 1: is idolizing Adolf Hitler, and so we have to have
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Speaker 1: an in depth conversation not about the process, about what
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Speaker 1: we wanted the end result and if we want ever
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Speaker 1: ever to be able to co exist together. We need
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Speaker 1: to deradicalize the Palestinian children.
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Speaker 3: And Jurand we've already got about twenty seconds. I just
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Speaker 3: want to quickly ask you, Donald Trump, put the time
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Speaker 3: praying for the rest of the wars as little as two.
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Speaker 2: To three weeks.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's not right. So this is going to
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Speaker 3: take another four so months.
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Speaker 1: Well, look, we need to make sure the Tramas that
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Speaker 1: we just armed Tramas. There are two main strongholds where
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Speaker 1: Hamas is still in control. We have already started operation
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Speaker 1: there and we are setting bigger operations.
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Speaker 2: So do we all take a longer end result?
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Speaker 1: We need to bring her hostages back and we need
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Speaker 1: to disarm from us.
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Speaker 3: All right, Sharane Haskell, thank you very much, really appreciate
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Speaker 3: your time. All right, stay with me, We'll be right
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Speaker 3: back after this quick break. So tomorrow and night have
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Speaker 3: got world famous influencer Montana Tucker on the show.
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Speaker 2: Here's just the snippet of what she has to.
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Speaker 15: Say, both my grandparents are Holocaust survivors, and the stories
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Speaker 15: that they told me, the stories that are in their
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Speaker 15: testimonies from the Show Foundation, are exactly the same as
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Speaker 15: what is happening right now today.
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Speaker 3: So don't miss tomorrow night at eight o'clock. And here's
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Speaker 3: Paul Maray