Latest / Best of Business / Stew Hamilton: Mercury Energy CEO on the company's recent drop in profitability
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- 0:17Speaker 2: Been a bit of a tough year for Mercury Energy.
- 0:19Speaker 2: The company has released its full year result today and
- 0:21Speaker 2: its operating profit was seven hundred and eighty six million dollars,
- 0:25Speaker 2: which is down ninety one million from the previous year,
- 0:27Speaker 2: but that pretty upbeat for the near future, predicting a
- 0:30Speaker 2: billion dollar operating profit for the current financial year. Ste
- 0:34Speaker 2: Hamilton is the chief executive and with.
- 0:36Speaker 3: Us now, Hey, Stu, Hey, heither, how are you well?
- 0:39Speaker 2: Thanks very much? Why the drop in profitability?
- 0:43Speaker 3: It's been a really tough last twelve months, really, particularly
- 0:46Speaker 3: because it's been the driest on record for us. So
- 0:48Speaker 3: when you look at a lot of our electricity generation
- 0:51Speaker 3: comes out of hydro off the Waykatta River. When we
- 0:54Speaker 3: have a very dry period, it means that it's really
- 0:57Speaker 3: tough for us to produce electricity and that obviously has
- 1:00Speaker 3: an impact all the way through to customers, both large
- 1:03Speaker 3: businesses and New Zealand households. And so we're working pretty
- 1:06Speaker 3: hard to try and improve and build that confidence.
- 1:09Speaker 2: And so why so confident that it's going to improve
- 1:11Speaker 2: in this financial year, so.
- 1:13Speaker 3: We're investing heavily and new power plants, So we're investing
- 1:16Speaker 3: about one billion dollars in new power plants at the moment.
- 1:19Speaker 3: That's from the top of the North to the bottom
- 1:21Speaker 3: of the South, and wind farms and also g therm
- 1:24Speaker 3: or so we see the significant pace of build coming
- 1:27Speaker 3: on stream and that's going to be good for New
- 1:29Speaker 3: Zealand in terms of providing an affordable and secure gred
- 1:32Speaker 3: as we go forward.
- 1:33Speaker 2: How much new generation are you building at the moment?
- 1:36Speaker 3: It's about one tier whatar hour, which to convert that,
- 1:38Speaker 3: it's about one hundred and fifty thousand homes equivalent and
- 1:42Speaker 3: it's about two percent of New Zealand's grid.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Okay, now, how do you feel about these new rules
- 1:46Speaker 2: we got from the Electricity Authority today?
- 1:49Speaker 3: Yeah, there are some components of it which are are
- 1:52Speaker 3: we're supportive of. We certainly support having more transparency in
- 1:56Speaker 3: the prices. But it's also important to understand that the
- 1:59Speaker 3: market that we have is actually globally very competitive. We're
- 2:02Speaker 3: consistently in the top five to seven in the world
- 2:04Speaker 3: and we have about fifty retail brands and so that's
- 2:08Speaker 3: double what you see in the UK. So our take
- 2:10Speaker 3: on it is that there is good retail competition, can
- 2:13Speaker 3: it be better? Use it can? And we're keen to
- 2:15Speaker 3: support the work that the EA ANDCOMM are doing.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Do you think that it's actually going to drive down
- 2:20Speaker 2: the price of electricity or drive it up? Because I
- 2:23Speaker 2: mean it seems to me if gentailers are having to
- 2:25Speaker 2: sell their power at a higher rate to themselves, then
- 2:28Speaker 2: it should actually push the electricity price up, shouldn't it.
- 2:31Speaker 3: Yeah, our take on it is that the integrated nature
- 2:34Speaker 3: of our businesses actually create quite a lot of synergies
- 2:37Speaker 3: that support things like the build rate, And so we
- 2:40Speaker 3: need to come back to work out what's the problem
- 2:42Speaker 3: we're actually trying to solve for New Zealander. And the
- 2:44Speaker 3: problem is we just don't have enough energy at the moment,
- 2:47Speaker 3: so we need to build more power plants and the
- 2:49Speaker 3: best way to do that is to use the generators
- 2:52Speaker 3: that we have to actually make sure we're building at
- 2:55Speaker 3: pace so we can actually ultimately bring those prices down.
- 2:57Speaker 2: Is it possible that the government is dithering on this
- 2:59Speaker 2: in order to give you guys the opportunity to get
- 3:02Speaker 2: that building going so that they don't actually have to intervene.
- 3:06Speaker 3: I guess. I mean there's different for speak on this right.
- 3:09Speaker 3: But what we can control is the rate that we're
- 3:11Speaker 3: building at, so we're building at pace, and the other
- 3:13Speaker 3: thing that we're doing is working across the sector to
- 3:16Speaker 3: look at. One thing is to make sure we've got
- 3:18Speaker 3: the power. The other is to have it when you
- 3:20Speaker 3: need it. And that's the work which we've actually been
- 3:22Speaker 3: doing with the likes of Huntly over the last few
- 3:24Speaker 3: months to actually work out how we provide this form
- 3:27Speaker 3: of firming so that when the rain's not falling and
- 3:30Speaker 3: the wind's not blowing, that we actually have some form
- 3:32Speaker 3: of power there to provide it through to households into businesses.
- 3:36Speaker 2: You what's your advice to residential gas customers. I mean,
- 3:39Speaker 2: if somebody is on gas at the minute, because you're
- 3:41Speaker 2: an expert on it, basically you're involved in it. If
- 3:43Speaker 2: somebody's on gas, if they're running the heater through gas,
- 3:45Speaker 2: should they be thinking about with the government talking about
- 3:47Speaker 2: potentially rational gas, should we be thinking about switching to electricity?
- 3:52Speaker 3: Yes, definitely, but the issue is whether people can afford
- 3:55Speaker 3: to do that. So there's definitely a strong drive at
- 3:57Speaker 3: the moment prices of gas are likely to keep going
- 4:00Speaker 3: up as the supply comes down, and so fundamentally the
- 4:03Speaker 3: right thing to be doing is to be switching to
- 4:04Speaker 3: electricity or away from fossil fuels in general. The challenge
- 4:09Speaker 3: for many is how we actually go about supporting that
- 4:12Speaker 3: transition to electrification. That's easiest when new houses are being built,
- 4:16Speaker 3: but certainly something we're looking at to support those that
- 4:19Speaker 3: need to transition for houses that are currently there.
- 4:21Speaker 2: Interesting stuff. Hey, thanks j you ste Hamilton, Mercury Energy
- 4:23Speaker 2: Chief executive.
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