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The Rita Panahi Show | 16 September · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On Skylands Australia. This is the Reader Pane Show.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita panehe Show. I'm
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Speaker 2: Cali Marcus filling in for RITA coming up tonight. Andrew
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Speaker 2: Hasty threatens to quit the Liberal front bench if the
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Speaker 2: party does not drop its net zero promise.
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Speaker 3: Nick Kata will join me for that and more.
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Speaker 2: Shortly, celebrities use the Emmys to grandstand on Palestine, will
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Speaker 2: break down what happened with Michael Loftus and Kosher Garda
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Speaker 2: will give us the latest updates on Charlie Kirk's alleged killer.
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Speaker 2: Alex Stein pays tribute to his dear friend, and we'll
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Speaker 2: get his reaction to another shameful chant from Bob Billin
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Speaker 2: at a concert and Lefties pay the prize for celebrating
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Speaker 2: the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 4: Dead.
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Speaker 2: But let's begin tonight with more trouble for the Liberals. First,
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Speaker 2: it dumped rising conservative stares into nampajmpro Price from its
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Speaker 2: front bench after she refused to voice support for Opposition
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Speaker 2: leader Susan Lee. Now Susan Lee is facing a revolt
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Speaker 2: from Shadow Home Affairs Minister Andrew Hasty, who has threatened
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Speaker 2: to quit the front bench if the Party doesn't drop
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Speaker 2: it's net zero pledge.
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Speaker 3: Here's what he told ABC Radio.
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Speaker 5: If Susan Lee, though supports net zero by twenty fifty,
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Speaker 5: where does that leave you?
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Speaker 1: That leaves me that a job.
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Speaker 5: I've mailed my colors to the mask Gary like, if
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Speaker 5: I go out with a tide in two and a
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Speaker 5: half years, that's great. My primary mission in politics is
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Speaker 5: to build a stronger, more secure, more competitive Australia. Energy
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Speaker 5: security is a vital input to that.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now for more on this is Menzies Research
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Speaker 2: Center Senior fellow Nick Cata.
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Speaker 3: Nick. Andrew Hasty is.
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Speaker 2: A politician, a rare one these days, who has conviction.
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Speaker 2: I don't doubt that he will see through on this
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Speaker 2: threat if the coalition, if the Liberals don't develop an
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Speaker 2: energy policy that doesn't include these net zero targets that
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Speaker 2: they currently have in place.
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Speaker 3: What do you think Susan Lee and the others and
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Speaker 3: the Party are going to make of it?
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Speaker 6: Well, you're right, he has integrity and he has authenticity,
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Speaker 6: which is something you can't make up.
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Speaker 1: Right ajeez.
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Speaker 6: They will know that Andrew ac is the sort of
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Speaker 6: guy who will continue with this. He's a man of
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Speaker 6: deep faith. He just believes deeply that you shouldn't lie.
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Speaker 6: And I think at the center of actually his objection
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Speaker 6: to the net zero twenty fifty policy, it's the same
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Speaker 6: rejection I've got. We shouldn't be promising the electorate something
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Speaker 6: that we actually have no idea how to do. Chris
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Speaker 6: Bowen doesn't know how to do it. Nobody in the
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Speaker 6: world has any idea how to do it, because nobody's
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Speaker 6: got beyond first base on reducing a mission.
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Speaker 1: So I think he's great integrity.
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Speaker 6: The only thing I would caution though, is I don't
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Speaker 6: think if they get to the point where they're going
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Speaker 6: to put out in the zero, they have to have
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Speaker 6: another convincing story to tell, and they have to be
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Speaker 6: able to make an effective attack on Chris Bowen and
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Speaker 6: point out the obvious that the higher the target, the
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Speaker 6: higher electricity builds. It's just a locked in, baked in
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Speaker 6: law in this area. And we can explain if the
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Speaker 6: Liberals can explain that story, well, I think this could
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Speaker 6: be an election winner, but it's a big gamble.
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Speaker 2: Well, they certainly failed to do that at the last election.
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Speaker 2: That's why we saw such a disastrous result. Meanwhile, Climate
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Speaker 2: Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen has declared the Albanese
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Speaker 2: governments push for even more ambitious net zero targets will
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Speaker 2: give Australians pride and its level of ambition. Following the
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Speaker 2: release of the National Climate Risk Assessment, The alarmist report
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Speaker 2: claims there will be a four hundred percent rise in
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Speaker 2: heat related deaths in Sydney if temperatures increase by three
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Speaker 2: degrees above pre industrial levels. It also claims close to
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Speaker 2: three million jobs will be lost by twenty sixty one
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Speaker 2: because of heat waves, a six hundred billion dollar heat
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Speaker 2: to property values, it says by twenty fifty, and flooding
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Speaker 2: risks to areas inhabited by more than one and a
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Speaker 2: half million Australians.
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Speaker 3: Nick scary numbers, indeed.
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Speaker 2: But does the government's need zero pledge fill you with pride?
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Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.
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Speaker 6: It fills you with fear, actually, caline, But doesn't this
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Speaker 6: just show the whole thing is just a virtue seating exercises.
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Speaker 6: We've said all along the object of this is to
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Speaker 6: make us have a warm in a glow and feel
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Speaker 6: good in ourselves because we can't see much else that
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Speaker 6: he's going to do it's certainly not going to make
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Speaker 6: a dent on the global emissions.
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Speaker 1: So I think he's just build the cap.
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Speaker 6: This is nothing but make us feel wonderful and good,
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Speaker 6: and that's crazy. That's no way to address public policy.
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Speaker 2: Well, people aren't going to be feeling very good when
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Speaker 2: they look at their electricity bills, and as I made
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Speaker 2: a dent in our impact on the environment, communications when
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Speaker 2: is to Anakin? Wells meanwhile, stood alongside EAY Safety Commissioner
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Speaker 2: Julie Inman Grant unveiling fresh details about the government's under
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Speaker 2: sixteen's social media ban, announcing tech titans must detect and
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Speaker 2: shut down children's accounts or risk fines of almost fifty
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Speaker 2: million dollars.
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Speaker 3: Here's the announcement this morning.
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Speaker 7: Government or digital idea can never be the sole or
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Speaker 7: final choice. There must always be alternatives. I believe that
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Speaker 7: over time facial age estimation, liveness tests and other forms
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Speaker 7: of aage assurance will become normalized.
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Speaker 2: Nick I've got to say is that the parent of
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Speaker 2: young kids, it does fill me with fear what harm
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Speaker 2: social media could do to them and the younger generation.
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Speaker 2: So I'm for this ban in principle, But do you
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Speaker 2: see the tech giants playing along with this.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's another question.
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Speaker 6: I agree with you fully that we should try and
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Speaker 6: protect children as best we can and harmful effects of
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Speaker 6: social media, but that's best done I think by parents,
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Speaker 6: and what I worry about this is just one of
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Speaker 6: those things. It's one of those bits where the government
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Speaker 6: doesn't get beyond first stage thinking. It thinks, well, we'll
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Speaker 6: do this, but it doesn't think through what the next
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Speaker 6: lot of consequences were You're going to be like, for instance,
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Speaker 6: the idea there's going to be facial recognition, there's going
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Speaker 6: to be a camera looking at us on our TV screens,
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Speaker 6: on our computer screens.
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Speaker 1: That fills me with horror.
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Speaker 6: Actually so no, I think it's one of those cases
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Speaker 6: where they're going to try something which is not going
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Speaker 6: to work. It's going to have all sorts of adverse
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Speaker 6: consequences and it won't achieve what it sets out to achieve,
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Speaker 6: which is the harm that you and I are both
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Speaker 6: concerned about.
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Speaker 3: But the parents, but parents.
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Speaker 2: I see your points about the potential consequences, But parents
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Speaker 2: have failed on this largely, haven't they. They don't seem
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Speaker 2: to have been able to rain in social media, or
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Speaker 2: perhaps they haven't understood fully the risks, So does it become.
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Speaker 6: The government's respond Sure, but I mean I agree that
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Speaker 6: parents don't pay enough attention to it. But one of
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Speaker 6: the obstacles to this is that the software companies Apple
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Speaker 6: Google have a whole lot of software which they could
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Speaker 6: make available so that parents can monitor their children's Internet
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Speaker 6: use much more effectively. They use it for employers, so
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Speaker 6: your employee can monitor your account better than you can,
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Speaker 6: as a parent, monitor your children's account, because that's the
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Speaker 6: way the software companies are set it up. And I
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Speaker 6: think we should be pushing them to act on that
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Speaker 6: as much as anything.
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Speaker 3: Okay, well, we'll see what happens with it all.
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Speaker 2: Victorian premieres Into Alan has said she will not be
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Speaker 2: deterred by the Albanesi government's international students cap pledging to
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Speaker 2: allow thousands more Chinese students into Victoria, even though one
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Speaker 2: in five foreign students in the state are already from China.
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Speaker 3: She made the announcement on the.
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Speaker 2: Second day of her trip to Beijing, where she has
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Speaker 2: also pitched Victoria's new China strategy to CCP leaders, with
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Speaker 2: a focus on education, agribusiness, tourism, medical technology, health research
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Speaker 2: and innovation. Nick, what do you make of the Victorian
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Speaker 2: premier seem to go out alone on this issue.
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Speaker 6: Well, it's a big part of the Victorian economy. There's
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Speaker 6: not much going for it. I mean, it's the biggest
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Speaker 6: exports sector is education. But because it has all sorts
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Speaker 6: of adverse consequences for the rest of the population. You
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Speaker 6: know that students tend to concentrate in the CBD area,
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Speaker 6: particularly the north of the CBD area. You basically the
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Speaker 6: whole character of the place changes. Number One, we have
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Speaker 6: the housing issue, which with well canvas and I think
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Speaker 6: what we haven't addressed is the fact that these are
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Speaker 6: de facto employment visas for a lot of these students.
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Speaker 6: They're not really so much interested in the education as
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Speaker 6: getting a foot in the door here so that they
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Speaker 6: can work here at least for a period with the
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Speaker 6: hope of getting permanent residency. It's not the way to
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Speaker 6: run an immigration policy. It's far too chaotic and demand
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Speaker 6: driven for that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I suppose not to imply that this is
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Speaker 2: an issue with every foreign student or every student from China,
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Speaker 2: but there is a risk of spying or intervention from
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Speaker 2: the CCP when it comes to students as well. We've
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Speaker 2: seen in certain like the Confucius Institute and education spaces
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Speaker 2: for example, what an impact that can have.
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Speaker 1: It's become part of the business model of universities.
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Speaker 6: They rely on it, so they're really not looking at
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Speaker 6: this objectively. They have a self interest in bringing in
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Speaker 6: more students, whatever the consequences for security, whatever the consequences
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Speaker 6: for the rest of the Australian students there the way,
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Speaker 6: it changes the nature.
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Speaker 1: Of the university.
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Speaker 6: And of course they don't care about the housing situation.
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Speaker 6: That's not the university's business. So it's a university is
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Speaker 6: making money out of this, with all the bad consequences
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Speaker 6: pushed to other people.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, good point.
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Speaker 2: Still in Victoria, it's been revealed more than thirteen hundred
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Speaker 2: weapons have now been surrendered in the first two weeks
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Speaker 2: of the state's machete amnesty program. Now that's on top
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Speaker 2: of the thirty four hundred surrendered by major retailers and
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Speaker 2: almost eleven thousands sees by police so far this year
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Speaker 2: after the state banned the weapons. Nick will this help
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Speaker 2: to solve the epidemic of violent crime.
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Speaker 3: They're big numbers, but it's terrific.
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Speaker 6: To see so many Victorians doing the right thing. But
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Speaker 6: the problem is your criminal population tend not to be
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Speaker 6: people who do the right thing. In fact, their whole
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Speaker 6: business model is not doing the right thing. So I
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Speaker 6: don't think this is going to make too much of
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Speaker 6: a dent, if a dent at all on the actual crime,
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Speaker 6: because these are people who carry out all sorts of
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Speaker 6: legal activities and possessing a machete is not going to
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Speaker 6: deter them.
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Speaker 1: What will deter them. We know what.
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Speaker 6: Works, tough policing, tough attitude from the courts, and if
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Speaker 6: necessarily increasing the size of the prisons, you want to
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Speaker 6: get crime off the streets, you put the criminals in prison.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And if they're not going to use a machete,
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Speaker 2: as we've seen in other instances, they're going to use
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Speaker 2: different types of weapons. They can't take them all out,
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Speaker 2: but the magistrates keep letting them out on bail, and
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Speaker 2: we see it keep happening exactly.
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Speaker 6: I mean, thank goodness for John Howard's gun laws. That's
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Speaker 6: all I can say. I mean, I think the machetes,
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Speaker 6: they go to machetes because they can't get guns, and
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Speaker 6: machetes are not nearly as harmful of guns, So thank
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Speaker 6: goodness for that. But at this stage, it really comes
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Speaker 6: down to tough policing and the Jacinta and Labor government
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Speaker 6: doesn't have an appetite for that.
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Speaker 1: In fact, has quite the opposite.
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Speaker 6: It believes on letting these people, are giving them a
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Speaker 6: second chance because they're I don't know, deprived backgrounds or something, yeah.
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Speaker 3: And putting the rest of the community at risk. Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: Pro Palestinians meanwhile, have vowed to follow the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: and target him wherever he goes. After Anthony Albanezi was
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Speaker 2: forced out of his elected office in Sydney's Inner West
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Speaker 2: due to continual protests. The protesters have been disturbing weekly
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Speaker 2: services at the Anglican church adjacent to the office, as
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Speaker 2: the New South Wales Opposition labeled the state's new anti
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Speaker 2: protest laws completely ineffective at preventing major disruption. Nick These
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Speaker 2: protesters really.
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Speaker 3: Are the lowest of the low.
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Speaker 2: They've even been bothering churchgoers who attend church services, funeral services.
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Speaker 2: But surely the answer isn't just to cave into them
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Speaker 2: by moving office. Surely the government and the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: should have done something about these things.
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Speaker 6: This is sort of symbolic of how ineffective at the
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Speaker 6: Albanezi has been that he can't do anything to stop
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Speaker 6: these people disrupting his own office. Surely it's time to
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Speaker 6: come out and say, look, we agree to the right
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Speaker 6: for peaceful protests, but these people are not peaceful.
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Speaker 1: Part of their tactic is the.
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Speaker 6: Bang drums shout quite aggressive and threatening chance somebody like me.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not Jewish, but I feel threatened when
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Speaker 6: you come into contact with them. It is time we
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Speaker 6: actually looked at this from the point of view everybody else,
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Speaker 6: not these really radical activists who are really the most
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Speaker 6: radical end of the people who support Palestine. And it's
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Speaker 6: just another way that the Prime Minister is just weak
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Speaker 6: and ineffective.
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Speaker 3: It's so right, it is symbolic.
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Speaker 2: He can't protect his own office, his own staff, he
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Speaker 2: has forced to move. How is he going to protect
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Speaker 2: the rest of us from his extremists? But finally, former
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Speaker 2: Neighbors staff Holly the Lance has supported controversial British activist
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Speaker 2: Tommy Robinson after he led a mass protest in the
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Speaker 2: UK calling for an end to mass migration, threats to
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Speaker 2: freedom of speech and grooming gangs. Nick Holly has become
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Speaker 2: more outspoken in recent years about her conservative political views
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Speaker 2: she's supported Trump. Such star support, though, would surely be
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Speaker 2: a big boost for this cause.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and Tommy Robinson has been a controversial figure. He's
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Speaker 6: not altogether squeaky clean. We know he's been convicted, but
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Speaker 6: I think yeah, in this case, she was joining with
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Speaker 6: him this mass outpouring of feeling from the British people
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Speaker 6: that they're just sick to death of not being ignored
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Speaker 6: on the question of immigration.
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Speaker 1: So good, honor.
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Speaker 6: I loved her quote, by the way, when she said everybody,
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Speaker 6: as they grow up becomes more right wing. Well, I
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Speaker 6: think that is absolutely a cast iron law, and those
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Speaker 6: who don't probably aren't haven't grown up yet.
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Speaker 3: No, that's very true.
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Speaker 2: I think that has proven to be true in many instances.
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Speaker 3: Nick Kita, thank you so much for your while.
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Speaker 2: The stars of the small screen came together yesterday to
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Speaker 2: pat themselves on the back at the annual Emmy Awards,
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Speaker 2: but as usual, they just couldn't help themselves when it
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Speaker 2: came to lauding their imagined moral superiority over the rest
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Speaker 2: of us. Hannah Einbeinder won Outstanding Supporting Actress for her
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Speaker 2: role in the brilliant comedy series Hacks, but showed in
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Speaker 2: real life. She's an unoriginal lefty boar.
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Speaker 7: I just want to say, finally, go birds and free Palestine,
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Speaker 7: thank you.
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Speaker 2: While her co star Megan Stoled her topped off a
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Speaker 2: terrible outfit with what looked like a post it on
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Speaker 2: her handbag reading ceasefire.
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Speaker 3: All these the labs.
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Speaker 2: Seem to forget no one cares what their political views are.
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Speaker 2: In the immortal words of Ricky Gervais.
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Speaker 8: If you do win an award tonight, don't use it
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Speaker 8: as a platform to make a political speech.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 8: You're in no position to lecture the public about anything.
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Speaker 1: You know nothing about the real world.
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Speaker 8: Most of you spend less time in school than Greta Thumburg.
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Speaker 9: So if you win, right, come up.
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Speaker 10: Except you lit an award, thank your agent and your god.
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Speaker 3: I'm off, okay, never gets old.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is US writer and comedian Michael loft Is. Michael,
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Speaker 2: thank you for your time. What was your take on
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Speaker 2: the Emes this year?
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Speaker 1: Oh, it's.
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Speaker 11: First of all, it's it's amusing that they even exist, right, Like,
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Speaker 11: knowing that the Emmys are still on, It's like it's
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Speaker 11: like driving by an abandoned building and then you see, oh,
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Speaker 11: the lights are on tonight. Somebody's in there like none
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Speaker 11: of this, None of this matters these people.
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Speaker 1: It's like watching five.
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Speaker 11: Year olds in their first like organized soccer game. They
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Speaker 11: think it's so important and their parents are gonna pad
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Speaker 11: him on the back, but it doesn't mean anything. All
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Speaker 11: they're doing is like with their little political, poorly thought
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Speaker 11: out protests, that they're turning off viewers, and they're running
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Speaker 11: out of viewers. They desperately need people to watch these shows,
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Speaker 11: and they're just making people want to turn it off.
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Speaker 2: I know, I don't get it, because why polarize and
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Speaker 2: alienate half your audience.
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Speaker 3: It puts me off.
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Speaker 2: It makes me not want to watch their films, their
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Speaker 2: TV shows, And I honestly don't care what their personal
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Speaker 2: beliefs are. Case in point, Hollywood star Javier Bardem. He
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Speaker 2: used his turn on the Red Carpet No not to
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Speaker 2: promote his acclaim series about the Menendez brothers, but to
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Speaker 2: drone on about again, what else Israel take a look?
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Speaker 7: And what we asked for is for commercial diplomatic blockade
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Speaker 7: and sanctions on Israel to stop the genocide free Boly state.
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Speaker 2: I mean, no one cares, Michael, You're on the Red
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Speaker 2: carpet to talk about what you're wearing, promote your your show,
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Speaker 2: and then get off.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, and and and huh if you're gonna protest, put
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Speaker 11: some thought like there's a there's this politician in the States,
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Speaker 11: Alexandria Okazio Cortes, and she wore a dress and it
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Speaker 11: said tax the rich right across her booty. Right now,
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Speaker 11: that's a protest. Have you are bardam? He just like
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Speaker 11: throws a scarf on and we're gonna take him seriously. No,
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Speaker 11: it's like the it's like the girl with the post
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Speaker 11: that note on her purse. Really, that's that's the best
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Speaker 11: you could do. Give it more than two minutes of thought.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was such an afterthought that the giant posted.
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Speaker 2: Who knows what she was thinking, But look, I.
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Speaker 3: Will give credit.
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Speaker 2: There was one celebrity to buck this anti Israel trend.
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Speaker 2: That was a Jewish influencer, Emily Austin. I hadn't really
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Speaker 2: heard of her before she carried a sea through purse
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Speaker 2: with a yellow ribbon for the hostages still being held
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Speaker 2: in guards. A lot of these celebrities think that they're
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Speaker 2: being courageous by standing up and talking about it. I
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Speaker 2: think it's actually more courageous. To be standing alone among
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Speaker 2: your morally bankrupt peers.
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Speaker 3: But look, that's my view. Let's move on.
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Speaker 2: Now to anti Trump author Stephen King, whose latest movie,
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Speaker 2: The Long Walk is officially a box office flop.
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Speaker 3: The adaptation has.
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Speaker 2: Recorded the lowest opening for a Stephen King movie in
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Speaker 2: thirty three years, coming in fourth in its opening weekend. Now,
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Speaker 2: this cinematic bombing comes days after King received massive backlash
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Speaker 2: for falsely claiming that Charlie Kirk had advocated stoning.
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Speaker 3: Gaze to death. He later apologized and deleted that tweet.
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Speaker 3: But Michael, this new film.
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Speaker 2: It has received good reviews from critics, and there was
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Speaker 2: some decent good word of mouth about it too.
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Speaker 3: I read. Do you think the political.
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Speaker 2: Backlash to Stephen King's comments led to people not wanting
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Speaker 2: to go and buy tickets?
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Speaker 12: Oh?
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Speaker 11: Absolutely, There's very little reason to to run out to
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Speaker 11: go see this Stephen King movie in the first place.
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Speaker 11: And then when he does such a horrible he takes
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Speaker 11: this quote out of context by Charlie Kirk like days
19:09
Speaker 11: before the movie opens, that they might as well have
19:12
Speaker 11: just called this movie Stephen King walking around the Titanic
19:16
Speaker 11: poking holes in it as the water comes on board.
19:20
Speaker 11: It was just about he came in fourth place. So
19:23
Speaker 11: I think Dalton Abbey people would rather watch a movie
19:27
Speaker 11: about old people talking than Stephen King's movie.
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Speaker 2: He Is he is starring in his own horror short
19:38
Speaker 2: show by his own making. It would seem like he
19:40
Speaker 2: has gone quite off the rail.
19:42
Speaker 3: I mean, he's been a.
19:44
Speaker 2: Very vocal anti trumpet for quite some time, so it's
19:51
Speaker 2: perhaps not completely unexpected that he would have gone in
19:55
Speaker 2: this direction with Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 11: He put out a he put out a video promoting
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Speaker 11: the movie. He was just talking into his phone that
20:04
Speaker 11: was scarier than anything he's written in the past twenty years.
20:08
Speaker 11: Stephen King's next movie should has been Stephen King Stands in.
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Speaker 1: Front of You.
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Speaker 2: Well, maybe that would have more people come to watch it,
20:17
Speaker 2: but I doubt it very much.
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Speaker 3: Michael Loft is such a pleasure to chat. Thanks for
20:21
Speaker 3: your time.
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Speaker 13: Have a great note still to come.
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Speaker 3: Left He's Losing It.
20:26
Speaker 2: Plus the latest updates on Charlie Kirk's alleged killer. Kosha
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Speaker 2: Gada joins me next and now it's time for Left
20:44
Speaker 2: He's Losing It. Hundreds of violence apologists have now faced
20:48
Speaker 2: the professional consequences of celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination. US teachers, doctors,
20:55
Speaker 2: and pilots have all been sacked, suspended, or had their
20:59
Speaker 2: employment to under review, but that hasn't stopped dim witted
21:03
Speaker 2: lefties from pursuing the same self destructive path.
21:08
Speaker 12: You hol me dead, you dead, you holp me dead.
21:15
Speaker 2: But it's a case of, as the kids sayf around
21:19
Speaker 2: and find out. Texan Governor Greg Abbott later tweeting the
21:23
Speaker 2: woman had been expelled from her college. Meanwhile, best selling
21:27
Speaker 2: author Jody Picot went off on an unhinged rant in
21:31
Speaker 2: a ridiculous attempt to gloss over the alleged shooter's leftist radicalization.
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Speaker 7: Shucker, the shooter was a cis white man from a
21:41
Speaker 7: Trump supporting family who was raised to love guns.
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Speaker 2: Seriously, Jody, maybe stick to the fiction in your airport novels. Meantime,
21:51
Speaker 2: XCNN host Don Lemon was trying his best to get
21:54
Speaker 2: the answers he wanted for his Man on the Street podcast,
21:58
Speaker 2: except this woman was having no bar of it.
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Speaker 1: What do you think would happened to Charlie Kirk?
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Speaker 13: It's just messed up, totally messed up.
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Speaker 8: You know, that was messed up like nobody deserved that
22:11
Speaker 8: he definitely didn't deserve that.
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Speaker 13: He was a good guy.
22:13
Speaker 1: You think he was a good guy.
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Speaker 8: I think he was, even though he says things that
22:16
Speaker 8: are anti women, black all that.
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Speaker 13: That's I can't judg him for that.
22:21
Speaker 2: And Lefty's favorite joy Read posted this bizarre video in
22:25
Speaker 2: which she appears to be drinking while staring into her
22:29
Speaker 2: laptop camera listening to an anti Kirk ballad.
22:34
Speaker 10: There's a F five.
22:39
Speaker 1: And a fascis forced.
22:44
Speaker 2: But honestly, what hope is there for young people when
22:47
Speaker 2: even little kids are being indoctrinated with such hatred?
22:52
Speaker 13: I have the news of her day.
22:57
Speaker 2: Uh second best news editor that okay, third.
23:03
Speaker 3: Is no, no, no, no, no, nobody died, my best
23:09
Speaker 3: friend's getting married, Taylor swept sick, and the mom just laughs.
23:16
Speaker 2: We blurred those kids' faces because I'd hope those girls
23:18
Speaker 2: grow up to regret being taught to say things like that.
23:22
Speaker 2: But here's what they risk becoming if they don't.
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Speaker 14: I've opened X to a bunch of little crying and
23:28
Speaker 14: winging about how political violence is never the answer. I'm
23:32
Speaker 14: sick of this idea that you can't meet violence with violence.
23:35
Speaker 14: If somebody was smacking you in the face, in the
23:38
Speaker 14: corner of a room, over and over. You're going to
23:40
Speaker 14: hit them back.
23:40
Speaker 3: You have to go not getting out of that unless
23:42
Speaker 3: you do.
23:43
Speaker 2: The lunacy shows no signs of abating. Now to the
23:48
Speaker 2: latest on the investigation into Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin, twenty
23:52
Speaker 2: two year old Tyler Robinson. The FBI has revealed it's
23:56
Speaker 2: found the suspects DNA on the roof where the fatal
24:00
Speaker 2: shot was allegedly fired from, and they've also discovered what
24:04
Speaker 2: appears to be a confession made by the accused in
24:07
Speaker 2: an online group chat where he wrote, Hey guys, I
24:10
Speaker 2: have bad news for you all.
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Speaker 3: It was me at UVU yesterday. Sorry for all of this.
24:17
Speaker 2: Joining me now for more on this is Guyanese contributor
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Speaker 2: Kosher Gada Kosher Great.
24:21
Speaker 3: To see you in Sydney.
24:23
Speaker 2: It would seem investigators are compiling some pretty compelling evidence
24:28
Speaker 2: against Tyler Robinson here. What do you make of these
24:32
Speaker 2: latest developments?
24:33
Speaker 12: Definitely they're building a case, clearly, the criminal case. Many
24:37
Speaker 12: people want the death penalty st which is on the
24:39
Speaker 12: books in Utah as well as federally. If they're able
24:41
Speaker 12: to bring a federal charge, which is still unclear. I
24:44
Speaker 12: think what's more interesting from these charts is who else
24:47
Speaker 12: was maybe an accomplice or an accessory or fomenting this
24:51
Speaker 12: kind of attitude. And the reason for that is now
24:54
Speaker 12: the president of the vice president, multiple people have signaled
24:56
Speaker 12: that this is actually an organized domestic terror group possibly
25:01
Speaker 12: where there's people agitators out there funding it, potentially grooming
25:06
Speaker 12: people or getting them motivated in these chat servers and
25:10
Speaker 12: other places. And is there a case to try and
25:13
Speaker 12: break that down the way you would a criminal enterprise
25:16
Speaker 12: like the mafia back in the day. So I think
25:17
Speaker 12: that's another thread that they're looking at that who are
25:20
Speaker 12: these other people he's confessing to, What do they know,
25:22
Speaker 12: when did they know it? What role have they played
25:24
Speaker 12: in addition to him the person who actually pulled the trigger.
25:27
Speaker 12: So I think a lot more to come on this,
25:28
Speaker 12: And if it spans wider and farther than just the
25:31
Speaker 12: one person who pulled the trigger, that I think is
25:33
Speaker 12: a pretty consequential outcome.
25:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, frightening to consider that there could have been others
25:39
Speaker 2: who were supporting him and helping to fund this. We're
25:42
Speaker 2: also learning more about his transgender roommate and boyfriend, Tyler
25:47
Speaker 2: Robinson's room boyfriend, that is a man who was transitioning
25:51
Speaker 2: to become a woman. One of his family members told
25:56
Speaker 2: Fox News that he hates Conservatives and Christians and that
26:00
Speaker 2: he hated his family. He was not raised that way,
26:04
Speaker 2: but he over the years has become really detached, being radicalized.
26:08
Speaker 2: He has obviously gotten progressively worse the last year or two,
26:13
Speaker 2: said the relative, adding he's always very angry. Now, this
26:16
Speaker 2: is all these comments are about the boyfriend, who we've
26:20
Speaker 2: seen in reports has been cooperating with the FBI, unlike
26:24
Speaker 2: Tyler Robinson. What are your thoughts on these comments from
26:29
Speaker 2: a family member.
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Speaker 13: It's so interesting.
26:30
Speaker 12: I feel like we're only scratching the surface with this,
26:32
Speaker 12: and there are so many sensational details emerging. The fact
26:35
Speaker 12: that first roll Tyler Robinson came from ostensibly a normal
26:40
Speaker 12: and middle class, pretty conservative religious family and then went
26:42
Speaker 12: off to college and completely went off the deep end.
26:45
Speaker 12: Then it emerges he's in a romantic relationship with his
26:47
Speaker 12: roommate who's a transsexual boyd trying to transition to female
26:53
Speaker 12: and also furry, which is a whole other subculture.
26:55
Speaker 3: We talk about that.
26:56
Speaker 12: Yesterday on air The Rabbit High Rabbital I never wanted
26:59
Speaker 12: to go down, and unfortunately I did, so you don't
27:02
Speaker 12: have to thank you.
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Speaker 13: So that's a whole other thing, and.
27:05
Speaker 3: Don't google for it.
27:08
Speaker 12: It just shows, you know, how weird this whole thing
27:10
Speaker 12: is and sad and dangerous obviously, And then the fact
27:13
Speaker 12: that the roommate is cooperating to me, I don't know,
27:16
Speaker 12: but I would pause it that it's for self preservation purposes,
27:19
Speaker 12: because if again he knew anything or was an accomplice
27:22
Speaker 12: of murder, then he potentially is in legal jeopardy as well.
27:24
Speaker 12: And maybe there's some sort of community deal or other
27:26
Speaker 12: things happening behind the scenes. I'm sure we'll find out,
27:28
Speaker 12: but this is just going from bizarre to more bizarre.
27:31
Speaker 12: And the juxtaposition against Charlie, this clean cut, all American
27:36
Speaker 12: Christian young man, married, beautiful wife, beautiful kids, and then
27:40
Speaker 12: these guys just look more and more bizarre on the
27:42
Speaker 12: other side. That is what I think the whole world
27:44
Speaker 12: is seeing, and it's really awakening something I think in
27:46
Speaker 12: people globally. That's beyond what I think anybody even expected.
27:50
Speaker 2: But as you pointed out, how did he go from
27:53
Speaker 2: this seemingly normal upbringing in a conservative religious family to
28:00
Speaker 2: far left ideology, at least that's what we're hearing and
28:03
Speaker 2: official sources. So it is fascinating to every parent's nightmare,
28:09
Speaker 2: worst name or how does that happen? I think parents
28:11
Speaker 2: are cross American around the world are really scared and
28:13
Speaker 2: wondering how can this happen and how can you avoid it?
28:16
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely. US Vice President J. D.
28:19
Speaker 2: Vance meanwhile, has paid tribute to his late friend Charlie Kirk,
28:23
Speaker 2: hosting a two hour memorial broadcast of The Charlie Kirk
28:26
Speaker 2: Show live from the White House.
28:28
Speaker 3: Here's some of what he had to say.
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Speaker 9: The entire administration is trying to do as much as
28:33
Speaker 9: possible to find everything that we can about what led
28:37
Speaker 9: to this, about how we got here, and of course
28:39
Speaker 9: ultimately how it assassin took Charlie's life. I wanted to
28:42
Speaker 9: zoom out with Steven a little bit and talk about
28:45
Speaker 9: all of the ways that we're trying to figure out
28:48
Speaker 9: how to prevent this festering violence that you see on
28:51
Speaker 9: the far left from becoming even more and more mainstream.
28:54
Speaker 2: And Vance also announced the Trump administration is preparing to
29:00
Speaker 2: unleash on non government organizations, left wing activists, and domestic
29:05
Speaker 2: terrorist networks. Advocating violence against conservatives Kosher.
29:10
Speaker 3: He didn't help back in this.
29:12
Speaker 13: He didn't.
29:12
Speaker 12: And that's what we were talking about earlier, that it's
29:14
Speaker 12: more than just one person. Yes, one person pull the trigger,
29:17
Speaker 12: but there's a whole pyramid, a structure underneath it, including
29:20
Speaker 12: funding with the NGOs and others overtly, colbertly, these other
29:24
Speaker 12: people who sort of at least narratively are in these
29:27
Speaker 12: chat rooms and egging each other on, calling openly calling
29:30
Speaker 12: for assassination of fellow Americans and all of that. He
29:33
Speaker 12: gets it, Stephen Miller gets it. And they are laying
29:36
Speaker 12: the groundwork and saying that they are going to treat
29:37
Speaker 12: this as a domestic terrorist organization. It's happened before in history,
29:41
Speaker 12: like the Weather Underground in nineteen seventies. Obviously, the mafia
29:44
Speaker 12: was a different thing. So there is a precedent for
29:47
Speaker 12: going after domestic terrorist organizations, and it starts with classifying
29:50
Speaker 12: them as such Antifa and everything else, and then actually
29:53
Speaker 12: methodically using the resources of the government trying to dismantle
29:56
Speaker 12: it and hold people accountable. So if that happens, that
29:59
Speaker 12: is one silver lining I think from this very tragic story.
30:03
Speaker 2: You cannot imagine that possibly happening under a Barden administration,
30:07
Speaker 2: they wouldn't be going after these far life groups.
30:09
Speaker 3: Now that is the case.
30:10
Speaker 12: Many people have been sort of thinking about this alternate reality.
30:14
Speaker 12: If Kamala Harris had won, and she came dangerously close
30:17
Speaker 12: to winning. As we know, the election was a landslide,
30:19
Speaker 12: but it was also close. These things can very quickly
30:21
Speaker 12: go in a different direction. And had this happened to
30:23
Speaker 12: Charlie Kirk under that administration, I think you'd see very different,
30:27
Speaker 12: very different outcomes. So that's another I don't want to
30:30
Speaker 12: call it a silver lining because it's such a horrible tragedy,
30:32
Speaker 12: but one thing that could have been worse that I
30:34
Speaker 12: think will be better.
30:35
Speaker 2: Well, America's top diplomat, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, has
30:39
Speaker 2: warned the United States will revoke the visas of people
30:43
Speaker 2: who celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
30:46
Speaker 3: Here he is, well, we were.
30:49
Speaker 1: Vote pieces of people.
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Speaker 15: I don't know we've revoked visas the people that is
30:51
Speaker 15: in the country.
30:52
Speaker 11: We've most certainly been denying pieces.
30:54
Speaker 3: I mean, think about it.
30:55
Speaker 15: I wanted you to think about this romomerapin you're out
30:57
Speaker 15: there celebrating a fascination in both blood of someone and
31:04
Speaker 15: then you want to come in. Why wouldn't want anybody
31:05
Speaker 15: like that in our country as a tourist, as anything.
31:07
Speaker 2: We don't want them here kosher? It seems like common
31:11
Speaker 2: sense to me. Why, I mean, if you're accepting people
31:14
Speaker 2: on character grounds, surely celebrating the assassination a political violence
31:20
Speaker 2: of someone who is just speaking at an event on
31:24
Speaker 2: a college campus shows that you are not a good
31:27
Speaker 2: character if you're celebrating that.
31:30
Speaker 13: And the point is, you're a guest.
31:31
Speaker 12: You're a guest in the country, if you're on a visa,
31:33
Speaker 12: even if you're on a green card, if you're a guest.
31:35
Speaker 12: And many Americans, I certainly speak for myself, and many
31:38
Speaker 12: of them support this, and they will say, get out.
31:40
Speaker 13: If this is how you feel, get out. We don't
31:42
Speaker 13: need you.
31:42
Speaker 12: We have enough of our own problems and our own people,
31:44
Speaker 12: many of whom have also been celebrating this, by the way,
31:46
Speaker 12: and are getting fired. And that's a whole other sort
31:49
Speaker 12: of current that's coming out from here, where people losing
31:52
Speaker 12: their jobs for openly putting the stuff on social media.
31:55
Speaker 12: But they're American citizens, So the greatest consequence is Okay,
31:58
Speaker 12: you get fired or canceled potentially if you're a foreigner.
32:01
Speaker 12: He has every right as Secretary of State to do that.
32:04
Speaker 12: He did it for a couple of students on the
32:06
Speaker 12: Columbia campus during the agitation that was happening there with
32:09
Speaker 12: the Gaza and anti Israel protests for example.
32:12
Speaker 13: It was controversial then as well.
32:14
Speaker 12: The only argument that the other side makes that there's
32:16
Speaker 12: some credibility to is is this a slippery slope where
32:20
Speaker 12: an appointed cabinet person secretary is able to decide the grounds?
32:26
Speaker 12: And okay, here it's common sense, but is it a
32:28
Speaker 12: slippery slope that you have them willing nearly canceling visas?
32:31
Speaker 12: But I think the counter point is if you're a
32:33
Speaker 12: guest in a country, show some respect. And if I
32:36
Speaker 12: were an immigrant or living in another country, like I
32:39
Speaker 12: wouldn't dare say something like this about somebody in Australia
32:41
Speaker 12: are as an example, as a guest here.
32:42
Speaker 2: You would think you would think that would be just
32:46
Speaker 2: widely appreciated by people. I mean, as you point out,
32:49
Speaker 2: and as we've shown on this show, especially on lefties
32:52
Speaker 2: losing it, and there are so many people who are
32:54
Speaker 2: American citizens who are celebrating this, so many on the left,
32:57
Speaker 2: which is so.
32:58
Speaker 3: Awful to see. Some are saying, well, this is free speech,
33:02
Speaker 3: they shouldn't be getting canceled. But I didn't think it's
33:04
Speaker 3: being canceled.
33:05
Speaker 2: They're not going to prison for it, right, But there
33:08
Speaker 2: are consequences, yes, professionally, especially absolutely, the.
33:12
Speaker 12: People crying for free speech didn't cry about it in
33:15
Speaker 12: twenty twenty when there was a mass purge on the
33:16
Speaker 12: other side for people who didn't want to use preferred
33:19
Speaker 12: pronouns or they.
33:20
Speaker 3: S thoughted it they started is a tool of the left.
33:23
Speaker 12: Absolutely, are questioning, you know, the efficacy of vaccines, are
33:26
Speaker 12: not wanting to take the vaccine. People were in mass
33:29
Speaker 12: numbers fired. This is just a little bit of that.
33:31
Speaker 12: And free speech means, correct, you're not being imprisoned, free
33:34
Speaker 12: your speech. They are free to post this vile hate
33:36
Speaker 12: on Facebook, but there are consequences professionally. Free speech is
33:39
Speaker 12: not guarantee employment protection basically, so that is happening.
33:42
Speaker 13: Students have gotten expelled.
33:44
Speaker 12: A lot of them are teachers and nurses, pilots, even
33:47
Speaker 12: military members, which is shocked people because you're involved.
33:51
Speaker 13: With the safety of other Americans.
33:53
Speaker 12: And if a pilot, for example, is that hateful or
33:55
Speaker 12: a kindergarten teacher, you're trusting your little one with.
33:58
Speaker 13: Is that hateful? That's a big deal.
34:00
Speaker 12: This is it's a big grassroots effort that's going out
34:02
Speaker 12: there where people are calling up employers and telling them,
34:05
Speaker 12: how do you stand by this employee of yours that
34:07
Speaker 12: did this? And they're getting fired in a way that
34:09
Speaker 12: five years ago I don't think would have happened. So
34:11
Speaker 12: it feels like there's just been a shift in the
34:13
Speaker 12: culture for the better.
34:14
Speaker 2: There's certainly there's this boycott campaign out there, somewhat uncomfortable
34:18
Speaker 2: with it sometimes, but.
34:20
Speaker 3: At least people are revealing who they are.
34:22
Speaker 2: That's what the Internet. We have the Internet to thank for.
34:25
Speaker 2: We can see what people really stand for. Speaking of
34:27
Speaker 2: Marco Rubio, he also warned that nations who recognize the
34:31
Speaker 2: Palestinian state are dragging out the deadly Gaza war and
34:35
Speaker 2: hurting the cause they think they are furthering. He made
34:38
Speaker 2: the remarks during a visit to the Middle East, where
34:41
Speaker 2: he's been meeting officials in Israel and Qatar. Koches some
34:45
Speaker 2: pointed remarks here ahead of Anthony Albanize's un visit. Obviously,
34:50
Speaker 2: our Prime minister has said we will recognize Palestine at
34:54
Speaker 2: that visit. What do you think this will mean again
34:59
Speaker 2: for the relations that we have with the US.
35:02
Speaker 12: It's obviously not helpful if he hasn't even gotten a
35:04
Speaker 12: meeting right now, and they're on different sides of this issue.
35:07
Speaker 12: The US actually is a little bit kind of on
35:09
Speaker 12: an island on this. A lot of European nations are
35:11
Speaker 12: recognizing and the tide seems to be shifting away from
35:14
Speaker 12: support for Israel in terms of the strength with which
35:17
Speaker 12: it's been that way before, and the US kind of
35:19
Speaker 12: is out there a little bit on their own. And
35:22
Speaker 12: it doesn't come without a cost because the younger part
35:24
Speaker 12: of the electorate even in the US is not actually
35:28
Speaker 12: that supportive of this, and this is one area where
35:30
Speaker 12: the Trump administration is maybe a little bit out of
35:32
Speaker 12: step with the younger voters that came in, where not
35:35
Speaker 12: that they're against Israel, but they just don't want the
35:37
Speaker 12: US exerting or using its money, troops, or influence at
35:41
Speaker 12: the UN know for it. But Trump has always been
35:44
Speaker 12: very strong on this issue, as is the Secretary of State,
35:47
Speaker 12: and they are very clear that that's their position. And
35:50
Speaker 12: I do think that he's going to exert pressure on
35:52
Speaker 12: other nations.
35:53
Speaker 13: That are not in that camp.
35:55
Speaker 12: Whether it's the NATO allies, whether it's possibly Australia over here,
35:59
Speaker 12: and that is just I think, but we're going to
36:00
Speaker 12: have to hash through.
36:01
Speaker 3: Yeah.
36:02
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad they've stood firm in the face of
36:04
Speaker 2: some of that maga protectionist But it's interesting to note though, Kocha,
36:10
Speaker 2: that you know, the Arab States themselves have been stronger
36:12
Speaker 2: than places like Australia and Europe and made places in
36:15
Speaker 2: Europe and actually calling.
36:16
Speaker 3: For hostages to be released. Yes, don't grow in that language.
36:19
Speaker 13: That is interesting, That is ironic.
36:21
Speaker 2: Look, Donald Trump has arrived in the UK for his
36:24
Speaker 2: second state visit. He is set to hold trade talks
36:27
Speaker 2: with British Prime Minister Kias Drama after being hosted by
36:31
Speaker 2: King Charles at Windsday Castle. Kosher, I think a lot
36:34
Speaker 2: of pomp and ceremonies on the cards here, But what
36:36
Speaker 2: else can we expect on this because.
36:38
Speaker 12: Definitely the pomp and ceremony, Milani is going to look
36:40
Speaker 12: great as always, There'll be a lot of fashion journalism
36:42
Speaker 12: coming out of it.
36:44
Speaker 13: He meets the cool royals William and Kate as well.
36:46
Speaker 12: Which does that for me when I look at that
36:48
Speaker 12: the big picture is I just have to laugh that
36:51
Speaker 12: Hitler is a bucking In Palace because that hitlarization that
36:54
Speaker 12: they tried to do such a pattist and it's so funny,
36:58
Speaker 12: like clearly none of them believed it because here he
37:00
Speaker 12: is second state visit with the monarchy.
37:02
Speaker 13: So that's just a broader point, I think.
37:04
Speaker 11: One.
37:05
Speaker 12: So the trade deal their biggest trade partners, and they'll
37:07
Speaker 12: hash out those details.
37:08
Speaker 13: And we've been through a little bit of the tariff.
37:10
Speaker 12: Lever with the UK, but it got solved pretty quickly
37:12
Speaker 12: and they got to framework pretty quickly. Another thing coming
37:16
Speaker 12: out as visit is they're going to be signing some
37:18
Speaker 12: kind of tech deal and I think the CEOs of
37:20
Speaker 12: open Ai and Nvidia are joining him on that trip.
37:24
Speaker 12: That one's interesting because jd Vance apparently played a role
37:27
Speaker 12: in negotiating the framework around it. And there's this fight
37:30
Speaker 12: where the UK is reportedly tightening the grip of censorship
37:34
Speaker 12: a little bit, and one tool in that is demanding
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Speaker 12: that the US platforms take down certain posts and they
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Speaker 12: deem as disinformation. US platforms don't want to do that
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Speaker 12: because it's against the policy and our free speech and
37:46
Speaker 12: England's to be honest heritage, and so I think that
37:50
Speaker 12: was a big sticking point, and it looks like they've
37:52
Speaker 12: negotiated something around that that we will not be doing
37:54
Speaker 12: that unless it's something explicitly dangerous. If it's an opinion,
37:58
Speaker 12: a dissenting opinion, we will not be taking it down.
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Speaker 12: Cannot find our companies global revenue on that. So I
38:03
Speaker 12: think that's something potentially meaningful. If they've made some headway
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Speaker 12: towards there, that would be good.
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Speaker 3: Well, we will keep an eye on that one. Koshagada,
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Speaker 3: thank you for your time. Great to shout us voice.
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Speaker 13: Oh, it was a pleasure still to come.
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Speaker 2: A dear friend of Charlie Kirk's pace tribute Alex Stein.
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Speaker 3: Is up next.
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Speaker 2: We've been speaking about the ongoing reaction to the assassination
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Speaker 2: of Charlie Kirk, and joining me now is someone who
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Speaker 2: knew him personally. Comedian and host of Primetime with Alex
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Speaker 2: Steine on Blaze TV. Alex, thanks for your time tonight
38:42
Speaker 2: and I'm so sorry for your loss. I wanted to
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Speaker 2: ask you about your relationship with Charlie. You've spoken before
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Speaker 2: about how incredible he was in helping to kick start
38:52
Speaker 2: your career. Tell us how you met and what sort
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Speaker 2: of impact he had on your life.
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Speaker 10: Well, you know, Charlie was a true champion for free speech.
39:04
Speaker 10: And I was very lucky that Charlie kind of you know,
39:08
Speaker 10: he took a liking to my viral videos and he
39:11
Speaker 10: gave me an opportunity to be a part of Turning
39:14
Speaker 10: Point USA. And you know, I'll be honest, during my time,
39:18
Speaker 10: you know, I'm still a Turning Point. I had some
39:21
Speaker 10: you know, minor controversies and very easily Charlie could have
39:24
Speaker 10: turned his back on me, and he did not. He
39:27
Speaker 10: stuck with me, and he gave me even more opportunities.
39:29
Speaker 10: So he was truly truly a champion of free speech.
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Speaker 10: And it's just such a tragedy for a person like
39:36
Speaker 10: Charlie to not be here anymore, because he was truly
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Speaker 10: the leader of the conservative movement, especially you know, the
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Speaker 10: youth and the you know, college aged people. He was
39:45
Speaker 10: like their leader. And without that, there's a huge void
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Speaker 10: that will not be able to be filled by one person.
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Speaker 10: Definitely not even close by me. I mean, I couldn't
39:54
Speaker 10: even hold a candle to Charlie Kirk. But it's just
39:59
Speaker 10: the world just significantly worse without him than it is
40:02
Speaker 10: with him.
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Speaker 2: Take me back to where you were when you found
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Speaker 2: out what happened. What was your reaction must have been
40:12
Speaker 2: an utter disbelief, But to some extent was you know,
40:17
Speaker 2: was the climate there that something like this could happen
40:20
Speaker 2: to a conservative figure there in the US?
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Speaker 13: Well?
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Speaker 10: To be honest, yeah, I mean, Charlie had you know,
40:28
Speaker 10: a high level security at all of his events. He
40:31
Speaker 10: was you know, talked about it pretty openly. And I'll
40:34
Speaker 10: tell you this much. If Charlie knew that there was
40:37
Speaker 10: a possibility that he would get shot and die on campus,
40:40
Speaker 10: if he knew that that was going to be his outcome,
40:42
Speaker 10: I know that he would still have chosen to go
40:46
Speaker 10: on college campuses and defend free speech because he cared
40:49
Speaker 10: about it that much. He truly, truly, you know, was
40:53
Speaker 10: willing to die for what he believed in, unlike most people.
40:57
Speaker 10: And that's why he's a martyr, because he.
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Speaker 1: Died for what he was.
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Speaker 10: I mean, he is literally a con a free speech
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Speaker 10: civil rights icon, and there's no debate in my mind
41:09
Speaker 10: whatsoever when I make that statement.
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Speaker 2: No, you talked about what a huge role he had
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Speaker 2: to play, especially among the younger generation, how no one
41:18
Speaker 2: can sort of fill that place. What do you think
41:20
Speaker 2: happens now to the conservative movement, especially among those younger voters.
41:28
Speaker 2: Will it continue? Will it get even stronger because of
41:30
Speaker 2: this event?
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Speaker 1: Well?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean right now, Turning Point has had an
41:36
Speaker 10: influx and support. Every single t shirt on their website
41:39
Speaker 10: has sold out, all of their events, The tickets have
41:41
Speaker 10: gone up, more people want to get involved. The request
41:44
Speaker 10: for chapters is up, you know, tenfold more than that.
41:48
Speaker 10: So obviously there is I guess, you know, a silver
41:52
Speaker 10: lining and the fact that now Charlie's legacy will even
41:54
Speaker 10: be bigger. But it's just not the same without Charlie,
41:58
Speaker 10: and I think point, I know, Turning Point will go on,
42:01
Speaker 10: but it's just kind of like just it just doesn't
42:04
Speaker 10: have the same energy without Charlie.
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Speaker 13: And that can be.
42:09
Speaker 10: Replaced by you know, a team of people, but it's
42:12
Speaker 10: still just not going to be the same.
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Speaker 14: Alex.
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Speaker 3: It is a very somber time.
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Speaker 2: But I do want to play a short clip from
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Speaker 2: your latest video with Charlie that is sure to make
42:21
Speaker 2: some viewers smile or laugh.
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Speaker 3: I hope this was only a month ago.
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Speaker 1: Have it watched.
42:27
Speaker 10: Mister Stein, Well, mister Stein, that's my government name. My
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Speaker 10: street name is Charlie Kirt, the world's greatest college debater.
42:34
Speaker 10: And I know you are a season debater, but I
42:38
Speaker 10: am the best. And I must say, Charlie, you are
42:41
Speaker 10: talking about immigration, and you're talking about deportations, mass deportations.
42:46
Speaker 10: But I must say that my housekeeper, Juanita has raised
42:50
Speaker 10: me since I was a little boy, and she's as
42:53
Speaker 10: legal as hell. She's not legal and legal illegal. So
42:56
Speaker 10: I want to say that, Charlie, why would you want
42:59
Speaker 10: to kick out my house because we need to protect
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Speaker 10: all big booty latinas. If you're a nine, you are fine,
43:06
Speaker 10: you get to stay. If you're an eight, we can
43:08
Speaker 10: have an immigration debate. If you're a six, you can
43:10
Speaker 10: kick bricks. But Charlie, let's protect my housekeeper. What does
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Speaker 10: wan Needa have to go? Charlie. But you said she's legal, right,
43:16
Speaker 10: she's illegal? Yes?
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Speaker 3: Illegal?
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Speaker 10: Eeg oh yeah, she's very illegal. No paper, sorry, they
43:20
Speaker 10: all gotta go. No, Charlie, I can't afford to pay
43:23
Speaker 10: a legal one. It's like fifty cents an hour for her.
43:25
Speaker 10: It's gonna break break your bank. Charlie, Please just let
43:29
Speaker 10: the ladies stay.
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Speaker 9: She's not no amnesty, no deportations, no exceptions, they're all gone.
43:33
Speaker 10: Okay, Well, I still want this debate. I love Charlie,
43:35
Speaker 10: we love it, We love you Charlie.
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Speaker 1: I want to have.
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Speaker 2: Charlie you rule. Thanks guys, thank you, Alex Alex.
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Speaker 3: It's such a good reminder.
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Speaker 2: While Charlie spent most of his time debating lefties fighting
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Speaker 2: for his values, he always seemed willing to laugh at himself,
43:53
Speaker 2: to laugh at the movement. And also, please give us
43:56
Speaker 2: an update on your housekeeper.
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Speaker 3: She's still with you.
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Speaker 10: Well, I can't say because we're all on the air,
44:03
Speaker 10: but let's just say we cannot.
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Speaker 1: I can't.
44:06
Speaker 10: I can't comment on that. But what I can't comment
44:08
Speaker 10: on Charlie is that this is what made Charlie Kirk
44:11
Speaker 10: so special, is that he actually had the ability of
44:14
Speaker 10: the ability to laugh at himself, to be self deprecating.
44:17
Speaker 10: When South Park made a whole entire episode about him,
44:20
Speaker 10: he loved that he laughed about that. Because he was young,
44:22
Speaker 10: he understands the culture and how you know, if you
44:25
Speaker 10: get teased, if nobody teases you, then really you're not relevant.
44:28
Speaker 10: So he understood that he put himself out there in
44:30
Speaker 10: the spotlight and that he was gonna get some jokes.
44:32
Speaker 10: And I used to play a character called Charlie Kirk
44:34
Speaker 10: where I was kind of like the you know, dollar
44:37
Speaker 10: store version of Charlie, and he thought that was hilarious.
44:39
Speaker 10: He would even respond to the clips. So Charlie had
44:42
Speaker 10: a great sense of humor. It wasn't all just doom
44:45
Speaker 10: and gloom. Really not much doom and gloom at all,
44:46
Speaker 10: But I'm saying it wasn't all debate. He actually had
44:49
Speaker 10: a sense of humor and really loved to let it loose.
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Speaker 10: I would say, I'm just kind of sad that the
44:54
Speaker 10: world didn't get to see more of the Charlie Kirk
44:57
Speaker 10: that was really laid back and joking around, even though
45:00
Speaker 10: people did know him that knew Charlie knew that he
45:03
Speaker 10: liked to chook around. It's just he's not really known
45:05
Speaker 10: for his sense of humor. He probably should have been more.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it is great to see that clip,
45:10
Speaker 2: as I said, and to see so many other clips
45:13
Speaker 2: come to light. I mean, my social media feeds are
45:16
Speaker 2: just filled with Charlie Kirk clips that I'd never seen before,
45:20
Speaker 2: and sometimes surprising exchanges that he had with people, you
45:25
Speaker 2: know that might be a young gay conservative person who
45:28
Speaker 2: might not have expected him to be as accepting of them.
45:31
Speaker 2: And I think people are learning that he isn't maybe
45:34
Speaker 2: as black and white as some of the critics may
45:36
Speaker 2: want him to see.
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Speaker 10: Oh, no way, Charlie was all about respect in unity
45:44
Speaker 10: and peace and love and reaching across the aisle. He
45:47
Speaker 10: didn't care about your color, he didn't care about your
45:50
Speaker 10: sexual orientation. He was the most inclusive guy. He was
45:54
Speaker 10: literally what the left tries to pretend to be. I mean,
45:56
Speaker 10: he actually wanted to engage in conversations that would be different,
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Speaker 10: cult that people would not agree on, instead of being
46:02
Speaker 10: in an echo chamber. So no, Charlie didn't have a
46:05
Speaker 10: racist bone in his body. And you see the people
46:07
Speaker 10: that are attacking Charlie Kirk, and you know people are
46:10
Speaker 10: going viral for it and losing their jobs. To be honest,
46:13
Speaker 10: Charlie would defend those people's rights to make fun of
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Speaker 10: him and tease him. And that's the difference. They wouldn't
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Speaker 10: do that for Charlie, And it shows you the type
46:22
Speaker 10: of integrity that he had.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so much irony there.
46:25
Speaker 2: And speaking of that controversial UK punk rap duo, Bob
46:29
Speaker 2: Villain has come on to buy again this time after
46:32
Speaker 2: the brand. The band's frontman Bobby Villain, celebrated Kirk's death
46:37
Speaker 2: while performing on stage.
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Speaker 13: I want to.
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Speaker 4: Dedicate this next one the pronouns.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's disgusting Alex. You can see the grin
47:12
Speaker 2: on his face as he's making those appalling comments. This
47:15
Speaker 2: was the same guy who was chanting death to the
47:19
Speaker 2: IDF who made that famous at Glastonbury. The band's upcoming
47:22
Speaker 2: concert has now been canceled in response to the widespread
47:26
Speaker 2: backlash they've received, but Villain has now uploaded a rather
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Speaker 2: unconvincing video to exclaiming actually he wasn't celebrating Kirk's death.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, real quick, At no point during yesterday's show was
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Speaker 8: Charlie Kirk's death celebrated. At no point whatsoever did we
47:45
Speaker 8: celebrate Charlie Kirk's death. I did call him a piece
47:49
Speaker 8: of that much is true, But at no point was
47:53
Speaker 8: his death celebrated. If it was, go find me a quote,
47:57
Speaker 8: Go find me something that proves that we was celebrating
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Speaker 8: his death. You're not going to find it because it
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Speaker 8: didn't happen.
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Speaker 2: We just found the quote, the grab showing how you
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Speaker 2: celebrated it and grinned on stage, But Alex, we all
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Speaker 2: saw this. But this is what happens all the time
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Speaker 2: on the hot lift. They say these things and they
48:18
Speaker 2: try to cover it up.
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Speaker 10: No, you're exactly right. But listen, Charlie has no idea
48:25
Speaker 10: who Bob Villain is. And Charlie could care less and
48:28
Speaker 10: I don't really know for that matter, who Bob Villain is.
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Speaker 10: And like I said before, Charlie would defend that guy's
48:34
Speaker 10: right to say it. And you see that the Attorney General,
48:37
Speaker 10: Pam Bondi is suppos they're going to put in hate
48:39
Speaker 10: speech laws. Charlie Kirk was adamantly against all hate speech laws.
48:44
Speaker 10: He was a free free speech absolutist. So once again,
48:49
Speaker 10: Bob Villain, the guy's an idiot. He's not talented. All
48:51
Speaker 10: he can do is get clicks by basically saying controversial stuff.
48:55
Speaker 10: I mean, that's what he is. He's a provocateur and
48:57
Speaker 10: not necessarily an artist. And so I know Charlie wouldn't
49:00
Speaker 10: have lost you know, a minute of sleep of his opinion.
49:03
Speaker 10: So you know, at the end of the day, Charlie
49:06
Speaker 10: also wouldn't want these guys to get canceled for you know,
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Speaker 10: what they say online or you know, in public.
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Speaker 2: He was a much bigger man than many of them.
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Speaker 2: Alex Sign, thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: That's it for me. Up next is Newsnight. Good night,