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Michael Wann | Synchro-Mystic Detectives, Sifting Mundanity, and Mastering Your Reality · My Family Thinks I'm Crazy

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[SPEAKER_01]: But every time I do, my family thinks I'm crazy The whole world, you opposed alien to dating To run in the water, this way is disgusting You wouldn't have to come out these things They think I'm crazy, I know I'm stupid, any more than you Oh, I'm crazy, I'm going night and night control this I'm crazy, babies, if these many new ways But every thing's so crazy
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to my family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Think some crazy podcast on your host, Mystic Mark.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And joining us today is the Suss-Gohana Alchemist himself, our good friend Michael Juan, who returns to talk all about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What he's been up to, then follow along on his YouTube channel Susquan Alchemy because he's got a ton of great new content there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So go and follow along and enjoy this conversation with our returning friend, like Juan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're talking about the bins and so if you don't know what the bins are I don't know it's just goodwill that does this or not, but it's their first like
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[SPEAKER_02]: when goodwill receives all the different donations they receive before it's like sorted and priced and cleaned.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all congregated in these like central distribution areas and there's usually like one per city.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you get to buy shit by the pound.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So goodwill, in my opinion, has completely like it's, it's kind of found this like new niche where it is retail and then also like, what do you call those?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can not concern, what do you call the shops like goodwill, salvation army, it's all the top of the earth?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thrift.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like retail and thrift.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so by the retail like you're starting to carry like new new things and and all the thrift stuff's more expensive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In my opinion, goodwill socks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the bins, there's magic at the bins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so all of the stuff that's donated for a city goes to this one place and they're putting these bins into the buy it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can buy it by the pound
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[SPEAKER_02]: but you have to go through a lot of shit and and my experience being to a couple of bins, I think I've been I've been to a bins in Philadelphia and I've been to the bins in my amy and it's like it's a mad house in there with like the people like people are kind of like everyone's there they realize like this is where I'm going to get the best stuff for pennies with the dollar so there's a lot of that there's no order and you have to sort through a bunch of stuff
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now what what I said before we started recording here is that I've realized within myself my own limitations like I think of myself is is fairly disciplined and I've got good focus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I can't do the bins like after 10 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I'm done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is just like too much for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I've gone there with people who are just like, no, I can do this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they come out, they'll spend two or three hours and they'll come out with maybe six things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like the mode like it's the most.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's frigging like poetry and motion to watch that, but I can't do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like just the whole thing with the bins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't mind paying a little bit more to have at least someone sorted through it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's my experience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you have the capability of finding a painting for gold in the bins, well then that's a, it's a real, it's a real gold mod.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's it's case by case because, uh, you know, the ones you're describing Miami Philadelphia, those are like packed to the gills.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go to one that's very, we'll call it competitive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You'll have that experience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you mean by competitive in the bins market?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious to hear this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know if every location does the same thing, but the one I go to when the bin empties or when they're ready to pull the bin to the back, there's a space that clears up and everybody who's waiting to see the new stuff lines up around the empty space, they push the bins into the empty space.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, it's shoulder to shoulder even at the place.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't puke just hearing about this and I love the excitement of like drifting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't imagine like waiting for that been to like show up shoulder to shoulder next to someone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why that does and people who you know they're very like I said competitive about it because they maybe that's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's what it is which which which which like turns it off for me because it's like I don't want to be in that space when I'm when I'm like pulling in the goal
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well big cities to me are already like that in many aspects, so but if you go to a smaller city and you find a bins chances are you might find a little more breathing room like I've been to the one in Providence and I mean there was barely anyone there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: more life can be lived in that situation, because yeah, I know what you mean.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It kind of takes over like this mentality of like, oh, I got to find something and there's other people looking to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have to be, you know, very prodigious about this and then you fill up your cart, you know, want to waste the space in your cart with stuff that, you know, so my girlfriend and
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we have a good time going there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We always leave with at least one car full and make our money back off of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if I could go to like the scenario that you talked about where it's like not many people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I can handle it a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, but I want to hop on to a statement which you said because
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's significant and that was about like the urban environment or city environment being competitive and that is the that is like a foundational truth of all city environments is that it
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[SPEAKER_02]: forces of false competition on everyone is only so many apartments there's only so many parking spots there are only so many tables that are restaurant like you know everything and what that does is it pulls out I mean I was saying this but also before we were
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh, before we start to record about how it takes me about a week when I go to a new place to kind of get acclimated to a new routine because I'm so influenced by the overall the the energy or the atmosphere of where I am.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think I'm unique that way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think all human beings are that way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What might be unique is I'm just very aware that that happens to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what will happen eventually is you will merge, you as an individual always merge with with your sort of environment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You love if you are a city dweller like that that competition that excitement that sort of like that pulse, you know, the the pulse is there because it's like, you know, you put a little bit of pressure on your neck, you're going to start to feel a little bit of a pulse and it's got a cool like you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you would like that sort of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not saying it's not necessarily like, it can be a pleasurable experience being in the city, but what I am trying, what I want to pull out on this little tidbit is just like a recognition, a mapping of like what's always happening
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[SPEAKER_02]: in our human experience as we're moving through, you know, whatever this realm may be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's always true, but in light of
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[SPEAKER_02]: where we are right now collectively, what's being projected on the news, being projected on everyone like that truth about what I say with the city is true for the entire sort of cultural landscape which is like we're all being affected by the pressure or the energy or the atmosphere in which we're sharing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's definitely ratcheting up, I mean, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll pause right there to give you a moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, you know, to go back to the original example, there's a lot of synchronicity and potential for you to find really unexpected things at the bins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the same is true for a city, I'd imagine, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_00]: the few times I have spent time in cities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's full of experiences I never expected to have, because they're chaotic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a chaotic place, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's all sorts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so yeah, that in that sense, I do enjoy some aspect of the bins, but I've never been to Philadelphia's bins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or Miami's for that matter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'd like to see how, you know, the more competitive ones are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I already feel like I get a little hot headed at the one I go to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, you know, not that crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The parking lot's always full.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's, it's as busy as it can be, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, um, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, so,
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[SPEAKER_02]: was talking this guy and he was telling me about this other guy who I haven't met yet who is like building this like real big fancy house and in his neighborhood run you know run and so he said the guy who's building the house who you know is real successful and whatever field he's like successful and his taking a year off and what he's doing
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[SPEAKER_02]: is he's traveling the world trying to go on as many roller coasters as he can in 365 days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So completely like discount the idea of whether or not you think that's something you would want to do or you think it's valuable like way for someone to spend their time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What I do, what I want to kind of point out on this and I'm tying it to what you're just saying about like the bins, like you know, I'd like to go and see the Philadelphia bins and I'm like
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[SPEAKER_02]: normalize to a lifestyle, which I've been living, it's like, you can't really escape it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you said about the city, it's like you can't, like we're here, like we don't know where here is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You just, the only thing anyone can say for certain is that we're here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And as soon as someone starts telling you what here it's, oh, this is a simulation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this is a prison planet by the R-cons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this is a, this is Dojo Earth, where you're gonna go, like all the different things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now one really knows, and what we know about here is when you start to really believe something, well then it begins to be coming, it comes true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you choose to go and do whatever you want or choose to look at the story anyway you'd like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's up to each individual.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the only thing we can all agree upon are at least the foundation for understanding this experience is beginning with the one truth which is like we know we're here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that if we know we're here, then you're like, what the fuck am I gonna do?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what should begin to, there are a couple of things that are going on all the time while you're here, but one of them is that the culture, the paradigm here is always doing whatever it can to make everyone participate in their game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and that game is like, they've got the monopoly on that game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, literally, like, this is how it works for human beings here is that you need to have money in order to survive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was to live here, to live here, without getting arrested, all that sort of shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was once upon a time you didn't need that, and it's been slowly like kind of dissipating.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You could say the furthest extreme would have been like during the nomadic period when people were nomadic, and that was probably much more recent than what a lot of people give.
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[SPEAKER_02]: think about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you could see how it's gone from maybe no magic to like, you know, there used to be like an entire culture of hobos and drifters and trampes and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then that's kind of like dissipated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're at a point right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you can't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I, I, one of the things which,
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[SPEAKER_02]: But which always like, oh, it just, like, it rubs me, like, just like out of, out of, um, principle the wrong way about St. Petersburg is you can't go to the beach for free, like you can, but every place you have to pay money to park, so you need to get, figure out a way to get there without having to drive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's just an example of like, well, you got to play the game, like, that's the game
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[SPEAKER_02]: So going back to the point, go back to the roller coaster, go back to the binst thing, it's like, okay, you need to realize it's like, well, what are the rules?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are the rules of being here?
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[SPEAKER_02]: How does it work?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then where do you find and where do you find your
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where do you find what your path is gonna be?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's always been true, that's always been true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it is becoming, I think, more and more of a necessity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: as like the shit gets like a little bit crazier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you and I've been talking about this for as long as we've been talking about things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But what what I've been noticing is it's like there's this like it's it's this drip.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's always right around the corner, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's always right around the corner and things are changing, but there's rarely like a
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[SPEAKER_02]: big change.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's these small changes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if you look back five years from now, if you look back ten years ago, you can see how much life has changed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we can, and so standing in this present moment, looking at all the stuff which is being told to you about which is happening in the world, seeing the things that you really do know are happening, which is like all the inflation and all of that sort of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: if you are not at least becoming open to finding a way in which this, you know, whatever this place is, like, works for you and whether that be, well, you know what, I'm gonna make my life's mission to go on all the roller coasters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can, it 365 days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that happens to be an option for a gentleman who like, you know, spent 20 years building a business.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or you could be like, I don't need to spend 20 years building a business.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what they want me to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My time is right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to go into the bins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go and support myself and live a life of synchronistic adventure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because that's basically all you're going to do here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: framed up around like the thing which is like most interesting and accessible to you and your actual lived experience which you know could be like bins and you were talking about like going to the um... bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- bruh- br
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[SPEAKER_02]: I admire it even more so than anything else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I admire watching this path on fold for you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going into this detail right now is because I want to just map out to the listeners and maybe to you, Mark, because you might not be thinking that this is what you're doing, but it is what you are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a way to meet this crazy time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if you don't begin to do that,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe the big thing happens and maybe we're invaded by whoever's going to invade us or maybe they're going to turn off the oil or maybe they're going to turn off the electricity or maybe like all the good stuff happens too, maybe maybe they're going to give you free electricity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So now you can go and pump up your electric car and go to your job, you know, it's off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know what the future is going to hold.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But what we do know is like, I can make my decisions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was saying this to you earlier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm broken it down to 100 days, 100 days at a time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's as far forward as I think that you could really plan in this current climate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I say that a lot with a deep understanding of people who are probably in their 20s.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I've got two young sons, one who's starting as freshman year in college, the other who's a junior.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I share with them my perspective and they're kind of like, you know, the world is working for them right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so they're like, I kind of like doing this, Dad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But, um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know in the back their mind they're also being told every single thing that previous generations have gone to college for to prepare them for their job in the future.
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[SPEAKER_02]: None of that is going to be the future.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be completely changed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're a 20-year-old person and you're looking at your life in front of you, it's hard to envision something, like in the same way that the previous generations were able to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that's both like a hurdle or a difficulty, but then it's also like an immense freedom as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't imagine how difficult that is to be raised with one foot in one world and then raising kids whose feet are entirely in another world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like you, you have one foot in your past and one foot in this now time and there they have no, you know, other than what you've given them, no concept of the past.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a lot of young people only know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the internet and the modern age now, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's kind of baffling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder myself being born in the 90s, like my generation is going to be some kind of like, you know, hold over in the 21st, you know, century of people who still remember the 20th century at some point in time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's kind of trips me out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Very much so, one of the things which I have, I've witnessed and it seems to be like common.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For when I say young people, I'm like, I'm just mean anyone under 25.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They love to hear stories of what it was like when I was 13.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What it was like being 13 in the 80s.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They'd like to hear those sort of stories because of kind of like what you're saying
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I, I, I have a, I've skin in the game, obviously, um, thinking about the younger generations because I've got children.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so a lot of my, my, my mind does,
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[SPEAKER_02]: does go there, and I'm going to even begin with the millennials.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you can go, if you starting with baby boomers and you're going to look at Gen X and millennials and then after that, I just, you know, I don't even know what the names are anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just think about what was the technology that was ubiquitous at the time that they were seven years old.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's a key marker because it's changing so fast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: prepared and ill-prepared for all of the changes which are being forced upon people who live in culture and and realists so so this is where I want to go so with the young people so one of the things I'm noticing is like on certain levels
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're incredibly helpless, I don't want to say stupid, but it's like they don't know how to do things that all the previous generations like new how to do like just like the regular stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's because of the changing of the values of in like parenting for each of the generations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, so this was going to go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I see like the younger people like all these things that they just don't know how to do and just like his very overwhelming in some ways like they seem immensely stupid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But then on the flip side, you talk to a lot of them and they have insights and knowledge about other stuff Which I think I was just like discovering was a topic at age 45 and they're like already experts in age 15 So there's this like there's this thing which is happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's this thing which is happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the you could say the same thing like not going it breaking up
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[SPEAKER_02]: breaking up by age, by generation, but you could just go and say, like, male and female, like gender right now, like looking at how that is changing as well, like the regardless of how anyone feels about, like the different sides of gender debates right now, what you can say
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[SPEAKER_02]: The human being with the penis today is different than the human being with the penis 50 years ago, 75 years ago and 100 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And same is true with the person with the vagina.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the reason I say that is like, I'm going to just give two examples.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like one is just like the long-term effect of all of like the gender-bending chemicals and hormones that have been put in everything since like the 1930s.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like all what is it called?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the, the, is it, which is one like all of the receipts?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The B, is that B, P, H, or something?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I forget the name of whatever the chemical is, but it's the one which like they put in the tadpoles and the tadpoles start out as boys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: or vice versa.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's been in the collective system for four or five generations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: everyone's affected by it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then at the same time, they have tweaked social ideology as it relates to like what it means to be a man and what it means to be a woman.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so regardless of where someone is personally, like collectively we've all changed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've all changed right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so one of the things which I recognize is like there's a lot more
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[SPEAKER_02]: This discussion is always been around, like in the 80s or the 90s, there was a best-seller book called Menor from Mars and Women are from Venus, because the topic was just as prevalent back then as it is now, which is like why men and women seemingly don't understand and get a law.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so one of the things which we see in all of the age groups right now is just as kind
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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, how men show up or how women show up and it's this amalgamation of like 50 years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the point I'm trying to make is like everything, whether it's like generational, your age, or whether it is like gender, like everything is in this weird kind of like more fee stage right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no go and back to how things used to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's only this way forward.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I have that in mind, so when I look at the younger generation, it's like, like, it's a lot of the stuff they don't know how to do, it's like, it's because it's obsolete.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't really need to know how to do that in some ways.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you don't know how to change your tire, well, in a couple of years, you probably won't be driving cars anyway, you would never own a car, so you never need to change your tire to begin with.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like you can see these things are happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's going somewhere, it's going somewhere, and then tying this into what I was talking about a moment ago is like finding your spot right now, because we don't know what it's gonna look like in a hundred days, what it's gonna look like in a thousand days, and just being in that space,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You still got to have fun, you still got to do, you're still going to do your regular life, but that you need, if you're not cultivating, if you're not cultivating, something that makes sense for you outside of how you are being conditioned to cultivate your life, well then you're just going to end up like wherever this, this, this, this, this, this
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
27:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's why a lot of people listen to podcasts like these is because they see the writing on the wall.
27:36
[SPEAKER_00]: They maybe feel like they've been led a certain direction and they want to backtrack and find something authentic, find media that's not taking them down the wrong path or just trying to extort them to buy something, right?
27:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is kind of hard for the course here's
27:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, what I hope we're doing is, or at least what I strive to do is lay maps.
28:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And what I mean by that is because I've been I've been in this game and what I mean by that is like I used to be I was born by the system I I participated in the system I was rewarded by the system and then I started moving off of the system and I've gone down like you know I've
28:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I've learned a lot just through experiences, you know, you learn a lot by like making bad choices as they say, and it's like that's how you get wisdom by making bad, you know, that's how you get good judgment by by making bad choices, like that's how you learn it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so what I've come to realize is that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: the maps that we are given, you know, and I mean my map is a metaphorical map, like the lay of the land, this is what's going on.
28:58
[SPEAKER_02]: There always, the ones which I had followed had always been very, very slanted.
29:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why I said in the beginning, it's like, you got to start with the truth, was we don't understand what this place is.
29:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And almost every single map, which is given, which is told to people, people like what you're saying, like people listen to the show, because you know, they're tired of like hearing all this bullshit and like hopefully that listening to this will be inspired by something which might not seem to be his bullshit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the way, at least I'm trying to address that, is to lay out as, as, as, you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: accurate of a map, because a map is never going to be fully accurate of the territory as possible.
29:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And to do that, you have to begin with the fact that we don't know what this place is, because most maps begin with the opposite assumption that the map maker knows what or at least has a belief which they're fully committed to.
30:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that's what's kind of like fun.
30:07
[SPEAKER_02]: You hear it, like I've done many, many times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You hear someone talk, you hear an interesting idea, you're like, wow, I'm inspired.
30:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me go and play with this for a little bit.
30:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me investigate this and they were, you know, you know, Samo Bolshin is all the other stuff.
30:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And so at least how I would frame up what's going on right now, particularly in this conversation is
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[SPEAKER_02]: as it's becoming more and more acute the I mean what what I think is very clear what what's being very acutely clear is that the lifestyle on earth is changing drastically rapidly now and we're in that place and.
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[SPEAKER_02]: in order to move through it for people who want to know how to how to meet this, because realistically it's only thing what you got to do.
31:01
[SPEAKER_02]: So, only thing you got to do is like how you can meet all the crazy shit which is going on, it's like you need to have a good map.
31:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And you need to know what makes a good map different than a bad map.
31:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And at the end of the day, the most important map everyone needs to use is the map of how do they get out of their own inner prison.
31:22
[SPEAKER_02]: The easy map is the outer map, because it's real easy to see the bullshit which is being pushed upon people.
31:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Now
31:34
[SPEAKER_00]: With the lifestyle you've been leading, you mentioned before, we started recording, you felt like hundred days in a location was starting to feel like a good rhythm.
31:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it easier to sort of stay above what you just described when you're living in this sort of, you know, hundred days per place kind of, well, I guess we'd call it a little bit easier than what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, in your experience, you know, considering the life you lived compared to the more nomadic life you're living now, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's different because the environment is different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, this was never a plan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I never really laid out a plan and said, this is what I'm gonna do.
32:34
[SPEAKER_02]: But I can look back and kind of see what has happened and kind of figure out what I have done.
32:44
[SPEAKER_02]: What I've done is I have slowly and kind of drastically
32:55
[SPEAKER_02]: disconnected myself from as many things as I possibly can without like disappearing like disconnected myself emotionally or psychologically.
33:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll give you an example when you're talking about the bins in your cart.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if I go, if I, I do this, this is just like one of the techniques I like to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it helps me do the sort of thing which, which I'm the point I'm trying to make is like, I'll say that I will only have seven things in my cart out once.
33:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So that means if you're going through like a place and like, let's say like a bins location.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you see something you like and you already got seven, you're like, I got to get rid of something.
33:41
[SPEAKER_02]: and it forces you, it forces you to like really, really, to really like know what you want.
33:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, you've got limited space.
33:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, what that does is it allows you to become free.
34:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the old adage, like your possessions will eventually possess you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's a real truth.
34:05
[SPEAKER_02]: But if we take it away from just possessions and we look at it more so into the bigger picture of what is possessing someone who has been formed by a culture and a culture which is changing.
34:25
[SPEAKER_02]: The more you are connected to those initial way you were connected to culture, as culture changes, the more it will pull you along.
34:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I don't exactly like, I have no interest in like living alone, in a mountain top, and like, you know, being a stone age farmer, like I'm, that's not, that's not my, my way,
34:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoy being kind of in the mix, but what I've done is I've been able to sever a lot of the emotional psychological attachments and by doing that it enables me to move more freely throughout, you know, this time.
35:21
[SPEAKER_02]: the most difficult ones, I mean, obviously you're going to be my children, um, I mean, this is a anyone who
35:29
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, anyone who is a parent who has, you know, no longer lives at home with your children because like a divorce or you and your partner like split up, you know, you know, that that's a really, really difficult thing to go through and, you know, I went through that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: in a way, I had to, I had to make sense of it and it makes sense of it in my mind.
35:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And part of it is like, you know, how do I go through, how, how I've made sense to me is like, had I stayed and continued the trajectory which I would have been on in order to continue to live in that home, I would not have unfolded
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[SPEAKER_02]: and I value who, you know, what I've become.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I probably would have been a happy story.
36:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And the father I would have been to those boys would not have been the father who I could be, or who I am following the path which I've taken.
36:48
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was like in many ways like a lose loop, no matter what it's gonna hurt, no matter what it's gonna hurt.
36:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that recognizing that's a truth in these particular times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you've got to put back, if you're like, I'm only gonna have seven things in my cart, and it's like, oh, I really like, I got eight things and I love them all.
37:08
[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna hurt when you're gonna put one back, but it's like that is the sort of,
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is the sort of like discipline skill, ability, which is going to be necessary as to navigate all of the changes which are being forced, particularly if you've got eyes to see that I don't want to go down the trajectory which it's taking me.
37:36
[SPEAKER_02]: you're going to have to realize that some point you're going to have to get some sort of emotional psychological.
37:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to quite say calluses, but maybe some ways it is, you know, it's got to get tough, like a tough skin.
37:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's one more thing I want to say before I pause for you, which is I made a distinction for the millennial generation.
37:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And the moreays of raising the millennials when they were, you know, anyone, I'm going to say anyone who's born after like 87, like, it was different than being raised prior to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the ways it has been different is that generation was really like for the first time, um, ever like what they want and their preferences matter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like previous generations, like if you're a kid, like you get whatever you get, like you'd be lucky if you get to choose what color popsicle, you get to eat.
38:39
[SPEAKER_02]: My, what the red one, too bad, you're eating the purple one.
38:42
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all we got.
38:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to hear a friggin' word out of your mouth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that would be like normal.
38:46
[SPEAKER_02]: So the millennial generation grew up when they could do a certain type of manufacturing where they could make all this stuff just for you.
38:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and so like a real easy way of seeing that is like Starbucks used to not be a thing, but in the 90s Starbucks became a thing, and at one point like Starbucks was like the greatest thing in Slice Bread, and when Starbucks started coming like everywhere, like in every part of America, and it became normal that I could have a drink and they could do like the number of pumps and all of that, like that's an example of like your preferences matter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: like it conditioned and this is why it's so important to understand how human consciousness works in order to then, if you can see it like how human consciousness works universally, you can then go and see where your blind spots are and when you see your blind spots, that's when you have an actual map of what your inner prison looks like.
39:49
[SPEAKER_02]: But the millennial generation was raised.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were conditioned in a time where it's like, you get to have all the stuff the way you want.
40:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Like when they who turned 16, like there were manufacturers of new cars that could easily make like color combinations of interiors and ex-teriors.
40:10
[SPEAKER_02]: That was never possible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there was a very, very like universally accepted marketing strategy for this is how we're going to sell to the millennials.
40:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this was all of the big advertising and marketing strategies understood that and it was to feed the like we're going to make it just for you the way you like.
40:34
[SPEAKER_02]: The reason why that matters now is if you're 30 years old, if you're 35 years old, you have been conditioned to always think that what you like matters.
40:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is like, that's a tough thing when you have to go and say, I'm only going to have seven things in my car.
40:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I want all the stuff that matters.
40:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm not saying this
41:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying this in a way is part of being able to begin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You ask me the question about the saw began with the 100 days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In order to free yourself up,
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[SPEAKER_02]: to meet this time and what may be coming is you need to be able to make decisions and you need to be able to let things go and you need to be able to let things go and know it's gonna kind of hurt and it might actually be easier particularly if you fit into that millennial generation to realize like my entire, I didn't ask for this but my entire generation has been set up that like
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[SPEAKER_02]: having to not get my way is particularly hard in a way that previous generations did not have.
41:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's gotten more and more, it's gotten more and more,
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[SPEAKER_02]: intense with each additional generation and I would even say this like I look at the the youngest generations like what's coming like they want like it's only the other generation because they've already been so conditioned in their mind in their in their neural pathways that they can't even see the writing on the wall.
42:23
[SPEAKER_02]: So the fact that you still can feel like what it's
42:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like beforehand and, and I can feel that it, that I don't, that I still want to get what I want, but I'm not getting what I want.
42:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that is, that's actually like a good sensory feedback of like, okay, this is where where I still need to go or grow, develop a muscle there.
42:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're living in a world that wants to, you know, create the sort of conditions for our feeling in a culture, not a world.
43:05
[SPEAKER_02]: This world doesn't work that way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This culture works that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the culture sets us up with these conditions that leave you exploitable.
43:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like anything you can imagine they can make money off of there's a path to make money off of it.
43:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm talking specifically about health in the sense that being 31 years old and getting older and a lot of the people in my family
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[SPEAKER_00]: couple decades older than me are starting their past way or get, you know, to that point in life, right?
43:45
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's becoming more and more apparent, some of the real reasons why my family thinks I'm crazy and my opposition to, you know, certain health modalities.
43:59
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like,
44:01
[SPEAKER_00]: people don't realize until it's too late that they're being exploited and they're best.
44:09
[SPEAKER_02]: So keep this in mind.
44:11
[SPEAKER_02]: The entire human consciousness is an exploit of is completely open for exploitation.
44:17
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know who designed us, I don't know who designed us, but just the very nature of how the subconscious works.
44:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it is designed to be exploited.
44:29
[SPEAKER_02]: so that that's not necessarily like a good thing or bad thing but we recognize that and I also want to say this we don't know what the story is like if this turns out to all be like one big fake like fun house and it's so that you get to go and develop skills like that's a story that may be true and like okay that makes sense.
44:47
[SPEAKER_02]: or it could be like, no, this is the Arkham prison plan.
44:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And it don't go into the light, don't go into the light, no matter what, you know, at least now you develop the muscles that you know how to say, no to that fucking Arkham, when you see it and the God damn light, you don't know, we don't know.
45:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's like, when we begin, so this is part of the map, when you recognize like exploitation is like being open to exploitation is part of being the human experience.
45:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you just recognize that's part of it.
45:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
45:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know if this necessarily a segue, but I wanted to ask you about the 250th anniversary star gate, and we're talking about, you know, the sort of different generations of people, but 250 years of history in this country.
45:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it was quite a while ago, Mike, but
45:45
[SPEAKER_02]: YouTube most recent video.
45:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I want to, well, so to be fair, I think that was about like 80 days, 80 days since I've put that out.
45:56
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not too fresh as to what it was, but we can go back to that.
46:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to, I want to complete the thread we just were on because it's kind of fun.
46:05
[SPEAKER_02]: What I want to go and bring up right now.
46:08
[SPEAKER_02]: because like I'm talking like, I mean, I'm listening to myself talk.
46:10
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the funny thing about the Zoom.
46:12
[SPEAKER_02]: You can see yourself talk and I'm like, listen to myself.
46:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, sound like you're frigging pastor, like up on a pulpit, like, this is, you know.
46:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I've got that energy.
46:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm kind of laughing at myself.
46:23
[SPEAKER_02]: So, so let me like bring this down to like the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
46:31
[SPEAKER_02]: the rubber meets the road, if you will, like, you know, all right, I missed a preach man, what you do with all this in this time, like how do you meet it?
46:39
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is what I do on a day-to-day basis, at least this one I've been doing here, since I've been in St. Pete.
46:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I indicated to you that I ride my bike on this, like, really,
46:51
[SPEAKER_02]: popular city park and so it's this trail that that hugs the the it's a paved trail that hugs the Tampa Bay and it eventually goes like to appear about a mile into the into the bay and it is typically always packed with people
47:14
[SPEAKER_02]: and there are like people who are exercising, people are walking, their babies, they're like people in like like skateboards, one wheelers, all sorts of different things.
47:26
[SPEAKER_02]: It's some filled with beautiful people in place to to see and be seen.
47:32
[SPEAKER_02]: So I play this game when I go there and it's like
47:37
[SPEAKER_02]: the game is it's a game for me and what I mean by that is like it's fun and I kind of have rules for it but it's also training and holy shit, look at that rackin.
47:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Just ran by a window?
47:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's a tree on the other side of the window, which I'm facing, and it's just clogged up the tray.
48:01
[SPEAKER_02]: It's cool.
48:01
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you know, four in the afternoon.
48:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's cool.
48:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Animals or animal interactions are some of my favorites.
48:07
[SPEAKER_02]: That wasn't really an interaction.
48:08
[SPEAKER_02]: That was just a witness.
48:11
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yes, it's a game, but it's really training.
48:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And in my opinion, what I'm doing is training me
48:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And so this falls back on this old adage, you know, take it for what it's worth, which is how you do one thing is how you do everything.
48:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And so if you can recognize that within yourself, you'd be like, okay, well, let me do one thing very, very specifically, because this is how I wanna do everything.
48:44
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is how I play the game.
48:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've talked about this before, like how I like to ride a bike with no hands, right?
48:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've gotten really good at it.
48:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And what I do is, and so the game for me is, can I ride to the end of the pier?
49:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I stop at the end of the pier, and then ride back with putting my hands on the handlebars,
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[SPEAKER_02]: as few times as possible, like the ideal would be to not put my hands on the handlebars at all.
49:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I would put my hands on the handlebars because I've got a handbrake and so I would need to do that for a handbrake.
49:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And so there are
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the goal, like it's an ideal, like I'm not actually trying to do that, but that's what I'm striving towards, and then the second layer of the game is I try to be as graceful as I possibly can on the bicycle.
49:46
[SPEAKER_02]: okay and so that's like being able to move the bike and where this really comes into play is like on turns because there's a lot of turns like sometimes some really sharp turns so to be able to make a sharp turn with no hands it's not like that difficult it's but like it's a skill and
50:05
[SPEAKER_02]: and so you have that going on.
50:07
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, how graceful can I be?
50:11
[SPEAKER_02]: But then you add in the element, the randomness of like people are all around.
50:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this is crowded and depending upon the time of day, it could be more crowded or less crowded.
50:23
[SPEAKER_02]: So it requires an immense amount
50:33
[SPEAKER_02]: because you don't want to crash, you don't want to bump into someone, you don't want to run over a baby.
50:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are places where you are like right up on the bed, like when the, like on the, on the, like a sidewalk, it's maybe like wider than a typical sidewalk, but on one side of the sidewalk is an eight foot drop down into the bay into the water.
50:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's like you're aware that you don't have your hands on your bike.
50:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And so like you're, so you're doing this in a literal, balanced state.
51:02
[SPEAKER_02]: and you're moving forward and you're like, you're trying to like meet life, meet all the different things.
51:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes you've got to put on good breaks because you don't want to crash into the baby.
51:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes you're like, I think I can make this.
51:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I can weave in between these people.
51:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like every single moment is like a real,
51:22
[SPEAKER_02]: is a real moment, a real time sort of like, decision.
51:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, am I going to go for it?
51:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Or am I going to put my hands on the break?
51:30
[SPEAKER_02]: As you see, people are coming and growing.
51:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Do I think this person has any idea that there's someone behind them, and they might just like step to the left?
51:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, all of this stuff has to be processed at the same time.
51:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And so my goal is to be as graceful.
51:47
[SPEAKER_02]: and is invisible as possible.
51:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm also very aware that like most people don't see me, like most people are in their own world.
51:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And you begin to become very aware of like who's clueless to their surroundings and who's aware of their surroundings, who I make eye contact with, who I don't.
52:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you start to, this is what I do.
52:09
[SPEAKER_02]: like I start like I'm like directing traffic.
52:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm directing like energy traffic with my fingers.
52:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's all.
52:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I see the line I want to take.
52:18
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like I need to go around this one person to the right and then I gotta go the other way like you're like slaloming.
52:24
[SPEAKER_02]: You're riding your bike with no hands through crowded people and you're doing it like as gracefully as you can and you're like guiding it.
52:37
[SPEAKER_02]: And so what it's training for, what's actually happening is you're putting into your nervous system.
52:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And here's the one thing.
52:46
[SPEAKER_02]: You can only do this well at a inner, like you have to be relaxed in your body.
52:54
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't be uptight.
52:56
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't be uptight.
52:58
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is one of the truths I would say in the map of the human consciousness,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Every single thing that a human being does improves, but with the more at ease or relaxed they are, there's not a single thing that we do.
53:16
[SPEAKER_02]: They're they're they're they're a couple they're a couple exceptions like if you want to go and tighten your fascia So then you could release it that's the only time that I could think of we're being as tense in your body Actually like benefits, but that's in order to go deeper in your relaxation in order to do this bike riding with no hands You've got to be relaxed
53:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's like, as I'm so the way I see all of the things that pop up, like that's life.
53:46
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I can only see like what is going to be the next obstacle of a general idea of the path which I'm taking, but it's filled with all of this kind of spontaneity and novelty, and every time is a little bit different.
54:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like,
54:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I go through these moves like there's this one turn which I make and it's always a difficult turn and if there are people around it's even more difficult and like sometimes I got it and sometimes I don't sometimes it's within my own hands sometimes it's not.
54:19
[SPEAKER_02]: But when I pull it off like you get this kind of like you know you get this like a spike if you will and it's like I'll do a brief celebration This is how I'll celebrate myself like I'll just kind of like like I'll like you know that's me clapping for myself no one else
54:35
[SPEAKER_02]: See is what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a completely the only ones who know are me and the universe me and God and maybe a child I've noticed a children pay more attention than adults and like that is developing a skill Because that's what going through like life really is when you're particular when you are when you're trailblazing when you're literally cutting your own trail is like and and for me
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the way I want to do it is how graceful can I be, how poetic, how artistic can I be, how much fun, and how how can I hold myself like it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And to me, the more that I can do that, because as you do one thing, you do everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The more easy, the more easy, the more joyful the dance of like moving through this time as the paradigm slash culture is changing and there's only so much an individual can actually do about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's useful to have a connection semantically, you know, we talk about when you mentioned like the exploitational, you know, pitfall of the human subconscious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: what you just described sounds like an attempt at subconscious mastery, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's a certain level of durability you retain from training your subconscious like that and yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: True with everything, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, particularly anything which requires skill, particularly like of any sort of, I mean, this is have a
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[SPEAKER_02]: So two things that share the story for one is inspiration to like other people are like oh that kind of sounds cool and like that I might not want to ride a bike, but I can do something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can come up with a game as well in a way Which I am trying to go and create some level of internal mastery in order for me to better and I can only do this if I have an internal map and I understand kind of like what my own
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[SPEAKER_02]: what my own blind spots are, what my own tendencies are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And like, this is an ancient practice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like what the Cheagolars do, this is what like your modern martial artists do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like all that sort of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I am so I would say like it's no different than when you were creating like those seat, like the scene, like the SE and like these are all like playful ways of, of meeting, of, of meeting the reality of being here in creative ways that have actual real tangible
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just got a little flashback there when you mentioned the scene.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, still available for people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's in the episode description.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to learn about what the synchromistic exploration of the ever expanding now is all about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and it's funny, you know, we talk about this so much, it feels like, you know, old hat, but the synchronicity, I mean, it's real.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think somewhere along the way, I just started living it more and more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes it's not always accessible to the podcast in the sense that like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't always record all this stuff on the podcast like I could when I was first recognizing it, you know, now it's like it's sometimes it's just, it's gone beyond that in some ways.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, just like
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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like it's, it gets too personal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gone beyond the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like into more other realms of my life that maybe aren't for the podcast because the audience just probably is an interest in for the most part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the personal goings on day to day, but where it's relatable, sure, I'll bring it up on the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think it's just something particularly with the flea markets and with the bins and with finding and reselling things it just fits right in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is, and there's certain areas which are just very fertile for this type of interaction with life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So anything which is used, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The flea markets, newsbook stores, bins, anytime there's like, anytime where there's
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[SPEAKER_02]: that's where that potentiality for finding a connection which would have been invisible had you stayed in a structured space.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's always a dance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is why they say order out a chaos because that's order and chaos is this realm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's that dance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I know it doesn't necessarily relate to where we've been through this conversation, but your latest video made me want to bring up the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I watch it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I watch parts of it just enough to kind of understand.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I get to feel alright because you're going to have to give me a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and I mean, it was in July, so I get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was for the 250th anniversary of the country and how they did the whole UFC event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, did I record that before after they did that after I believe after, okay, all right, after the after like the huge upset.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not sure I didn't watch the fight nor have I really kept up with UFC much lately, but I just thought it was interesting that you made a connection to star gates and project rainbow.
1:01:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And my recent podcast episode, we were talking about essentially like it's not star
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[SPEAKER_00]: it was channeled by an anonymous sleeping author and the first thousand pages of the book are kind of hard to get through because the first thousand are difficult to get through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because it's like as if to put yourselves in, put yourself in the position of like, do you have a copy of this said book?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's right here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... will you tell me what year was copy written uh... well it's been the original the first printing yeah nineteen fifty five nineteen fifty five and who is the publisher it's published by a foundation named uh... epitomously so it's the urion chair foundation publishes the rancher book
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[SPEAKER_02]: So how does, like, is that book like the, the quote unquote, the Bible, the foundation of that foundation or group?
1:05:28
[SPEAKER_00]: To say it's the Bible, you, you've done read it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And some thousand pages to get the first thousand pages are to get to of course have never read.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm familiar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there was a time I know I definitely researched it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the, the maybe you know that the Bible's included in it, okay, the full Bible is in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It gives you the universe's perspective on the events of the Bible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is like if the government of the universe wrote a book and they had to get all the bureaucratic stuff out of the way first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the 1,000 first,000 pages is a lot of bureaucratic stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How does that book get published?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this foundation was set up because the author was having basically issue sleeping and his wife called the psychiatrist and the psychiatrist realized that the man was having a very rare.
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[SPEAKER_00]: form of possession and that there was a psychiatrist, yeah, made made a, made a, a religious, a religious, um, uh, the story enough for it to be fleshed apart like this, but the way the way a sounds like it paned out is that,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like an Edgar Casey type of thing where a channeled something in his sleep, he didn't really want anything to do with it, but the psychiatrist alerted people who were interested and they took this guy and basically, you know, with his permission recorded all this information that whatever was speaking through him had to offer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they recorded this, you know, a couple
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like a group effort with the participating author, if you will, or maybe the guy being possessed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, that was in the 1910s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a 10 year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was kind of common at the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like as you said, Edgar Casey, there was like, that was if you look at a lot of the books that were
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[SPEAKER_02]: first published during that time period, you get a feel for like what people were into.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But go, so go on, I didn't mean to off track you, but I always like to know the background story of the stuff.
1:07:48
[SPEAKER_02]: So you were making a link between the UFC 250 and that book.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there was some sort of connection.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I wanted to see, I wanted to see what came to mind for you when I brought it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a few months ago because this year, ancient book is so full of like thought-provoking little tidbits, almost like unintentionally, like just a little off handed details will make you like scratch your head like, what is this supposed to mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, can you give me one example of one of these just like little tidbits?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess, yeah, I could.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're putting anything highlighted in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious about one thing that's spoke to you, and then I get, and then I'll have an understanding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have anything highlighted, but essentially the, the person that we know through our mythology as Satan or Lucifer, two separate guys, and Lucifer was basically like the assistant
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[SPEAKER_00]: in more bureaucratic terms, maybe we would think of it as like the soul of the planet, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not the president of the planet, but that's how this book describes it as like a president.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they basically say that they were like, screw the system.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to start our own thing on Earth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to now follow the rules as the angels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, so it's that story that we know about the rebellion and the kind of nostic thing, but then they come in and they say that like Jesus, who's the President of all the aliens, this is the tidbit that I thought was funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The President of all the aliens crossed the entire intergalactic, you know, human consortium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, well, I got to go to Earth or Urancia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what the rest of the universe calls our planet according to this book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the New Testament.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like we get the New Testament's perspective on this event, but this book's like, no, no, no, this guy's actually like, of the president of all the aliens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he deals with a lot more than just your planet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we know you guys love Jesus Christ and he's like your superstar, but like he's like middle management to us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's the
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[SPEAKER_02]: he's like, you know, the son are you are these your own metaphors of like middle management and president.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm I'm filling those.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
1:10:21
[SPEAKER_02]: That's good.
1:10:22
[SPEAKER_02]: That's really good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, they have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, so you said that there's the.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got Lucifer who was the guy to the assistant or vice-president to Caligastia, who's the president of the earth of the soul of the earth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
1:10:43
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you mentioned Satan was Satan involved?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Satan's like, Lucifer is the assistant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the same's actually loose for his assistant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, very bureaucratic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're structured.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're structured.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, archaeo hierarchy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, let's say that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but it's like bureaucratic in the, like I structure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I'm thinking bureaucratic because it's like the early 20th century, you can kind of read into that to like the way they saw the world in the early 20th
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[SPEAKER_00]: before globalism, like pre-globalism, kind of thought about nationalism and such.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's like that structure applied to the universe in a way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, so I want to hear where you want to go with this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You said that there were some similarities then with the video.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just put out some can you go a little bit deeper with the the synchronicity is you're the connections besides it's just being the president of your rate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What is it called your rancher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Your rancher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: there there are none that i'm aware of i just wanted to bring the book to your attention in case in case there was something that came to mind for you um but it's a it's a fascinating book and it's i mean really well detail like it for something that's channeled material it doesn't read like other channeled material that i've read it almost feels like a UFO dropped in encyclopedia
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[SPEAKER_00]: on the Earth by accident and like, you know, that's sort of the sense I get about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'm idolizing it a little bit, but does it speak to you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, when I found it 10 or so years ago, it did, and then I met two guys who's podcast is kind of devoted to the subject and they sparked the interest back up again, but it's it's, you know, very thorough, it goes into great detail about things that I would imagine the average reader at the time probably wasn't very interested in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and the author never wanted to be known.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just one of these examples of a book where it doesn't seem like there's any lucrative aspect to it that would make you think that this is just sensational writing to stir up some book sales.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's really not a sensational as it can be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't have any of the bells and whistles that usually come along with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I don't know how genuine it is, but it gives you this impression that the earth is just one kind of system that got warped out of whack by these like Lucifer Satan Caligastia trio and some aliens basically tried to correct it got lost in time Jesus found out came and tried to help us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the aliens came to help us right and they lost in time and then Jesus went to go and and fix those folks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there is the so quarter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it is a thousand pages.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I know there's got to be a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: According to this book, Adam and Eve weren't just like a couple.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were like a whole like Star Trek kind of like group.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they were like a whole group of people called the Adam and Eve's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And their job was to like recreate themselves on Earth, but in this very specific way where they never actually fornicated with the, you know, human species that was on Earth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had to do it in a certain way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They broke those protocols.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the universe government was like, well, you guys are quarantine now.
1:14:40
[SPEAKER_00]: You screwed up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You broke the rules.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it sounds a lot like again, like a modern retelling of what we hear from the Bible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the watches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like a more sci-fi version of what we get from the Bible basically.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Essentially that, but yeah, they were supposed to create a hybrid and instead women here are so fucking dangerous that not only do they fuck up all the men here, but aliens can't even fucking deal with them.
1:15:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or we've got a reputation intergalactically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ladies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's one angle that I was hoping to get from you, Mike.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's, uh, so if someone, so this podcast that we just talked about the guys who are like into it, um, how, how is there like a direction for someone who like resonates with that book for like where points you to go?
1:15:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Like how do you take this information and apply it in a tangible way?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The book is free for anyone to read if they want to go to the website, but I guess the mission of the, in the sense that like, you know, some religions their mission is like personal enlightenment salvation, this kind of thing, right?
1:16:11
[SPEAKER_00]: That's, I guess that's how I'm taking your question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like the salvation aspect of the rancher book is like, it's like sci-fi Christianity in some ways, but the idea is like, if we all believe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that Michael, the angel, president, so on, you know, underneath God there, if we believe the, you know, so and so or whatever, we can actually create a situation where they'll come back to the planet and set up this heavenly order again, and this rebellion will be squashed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing is, the whole universe is free will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the angels can't come in intervene, unless the humans all agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's part of why say in Lucifer, they are keeping us all stupid and devolved is because they don't want God and the Michael and all the universal government to come in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, rain order on this planet, they like the chaos, they want the freedom, they want the degradation and the the devolution.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that and that's part of it too is apparently the angels won't tell any of the other planets about us because they don't want the rebellion to spread.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's no
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are the secret like the dirty little secret like you hear these stories like you know like like deep in West Virginia and you got like brother and sister and they got a baby and the baby comes out with 15 fingers grown out of its neck and then they're like we're just gonna take this little special baby and we're gonna keep the baby in the back and no one's gonna know about it but us and it's like one of these like family secrets that they don't want anyone else to know about
1:17:56
[SPEAKER_02]: We are that in the celestial realm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're the friggin' freaks.
1:18:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that, that I can get behind.
1:18:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.
1:18:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
1:18:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there's, you know, again, this is a very poor job of representing the year.
1:18:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is the best job in the world.
1:18:16
[SPEAKER_02]: You're doing like I think I completely understand it the way you're telling me this is what what pops in my mind I'm like this reminds me of this email I once got about like some dude who's got like a million dollars in a bank in Africa and he's like if I Wanted to just go and like help him like get that money back then he would give me a reward But I would need to give him access to my bank so that he could get he could go and and get his money back That's what this sounds like
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, if you guys go and you believe this enough, we're going to come back, we're going to come back, but we, but you all got to get enough people to believe this and we're going to fix the problem.
1:18:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, but this is where like where I said in the beginning, like, maybe this is an accurate description of what's going on.
1:19:02
[SPEAKER_02]: It could be.
1:19:04
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and then like, how does that, how does this.
1:19:08
[SPEAKER_02]: How does this reconcile with, like, Rudolf Steiner's teachings of what's the, what's the, what's the, his version of Satan, his name is like he's the, what is his name?
1:19:21
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, are among and so like that type of story and then how does that relate to dionetics and Scientology and like those stories and maybe, I mean, it's possible all of those are like different like kind of tellings of the same truth.
1:19:37
[SPEAKER_02]: That could be true.
1:19:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
1:19:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, like a lot of this like one of the, I'm not saying this is accurate or not, but I've been more and more willing to play with this idea because it at least seems to answer a question for me, which is like, yeah, AI has always been here, like it's always been an AI world and like a lot of the stuff where you like where the hell did this come from, like who the hell wrote a thousand pages overnight, like I know AI can do that.
1:20:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Who the hell wrote the thousand pages of our tax code?
1:20:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that sounds like the sort of thing AI would go in, right?
1:20:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Who the hell wrote the Bible?
1:20:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that sounds like the sort of thing.
1:20:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying that's the case.
1:20:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying like, when you can begin, I think this is a very valuable skill for all people who are in the position that we find ourselves right now, like me and you and like the listeners, which is if you don't need to make a decision,
1:20:38
[SPEAKER_02]: don't make a decision.
1:20:40
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you're going to have to make a decision, but you don't have to make it immediately, hold out or making that decision as long as you can.
1:20:48
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it would certainly be nice to understand what exactly this realm is that we're here to know the story.
1:20:59
[SPEAKER_02]: But I can't make that decision.
1:21:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I can't know that answer.
1:21:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I can make the decision of what I choose to accept his truth.
1:21:10
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're layers to this.
1:21:11
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're levels.
1:21:13
[SPEAKER_02]: They're levels, so you can accept something to play with his true and not fully be committed to it.
1:21:25
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the things which you'll see which makes human beings insane, you know, for lack of a better word, is they put their faith in something that has holes in it, something that can be deconstructed, and they've put so much faith in that that they
1:21:56
[SPEAKER_02]: that is one of the things which human beings do and you can understand why they're doing it.
1:22:08
[SPEAKER_02]: My sense is like, like what I think is interesting what you're sharing with me is like this spoke to you.
1:22:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's a lot of things which I think your total bullshit which speak to me and like I can work with it, play with it in a way which is beneficial.
1:22:27
[SPEAKER_02]: that's kind of like how this lay-ins for me and it was probably like really cut net cutting edge like I think I saw 1910 when I just put up the Wikipedia page and this guy is the
1:22:41
[SPEAKER_02]: is it was either his brothers cousin is the guy Kellogg from like the Kellogg's, the Kellogg's, serial family.
1:22:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you're familiar with Kellogg's, like that guy started off with like, it was all, it was all, um,
1:23:00
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, to improve the human experience, to improve all of our decrepit behavior, I believe cornflakes were invented to stop masturbation.
1:23:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty certain Kellogg is the guy that normalized circumcision for Gentiles.
1:23:22
[SPEAKER_02]: another one of the, you know, if we cut off the most sensitive part of the most sensitive piece of the male body, well, then that will reduce the likelihood that, like, Johnny stops jerking it in the corner.
1:23:34
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's, it's, they're, they're connected.
1:23:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It's from that same sort of era that doesn't necessarily mean anything because I'm connected to a lot of things, which I don't think I'm like part of their movement.
1:23:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Or like, like, my, my story overlaps,
1:23:50
[SPEAKER_02]: that kind of jumps out in my mind.
1:23:52
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'd like a T-shirt, I would like a T-shirt with a picture of an alien on it.
1:24:02
[SPEAKER_00]: That says President Williams and it's actually Jesus Christ.
1:24:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's a lot of that, like isn't that kind of like, you know, when they go deeper into Mormonism or the church of Latter day Saints, like the relationship between, I think, like Jesus and and and Lucifer brothers and if a human being like does whatever they're supposed to do good enough on earth, well then they get like their own planet and maybe that is how it works.
1:24:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
1:24:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.
1:24:36
[SPEAKER_02]: this is what this if if all of this was that serious we give all of this was that serious and we could why wouldn't that be universally known like why would the if it was so important this is at least the way how I navigate some of the stuff if this was so accurate if this was accurate and was important and self-evident within why would there be
1:25:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So like the, I ultimately have faith.
1:25:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So we all have to have faith in something.
1:25:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone has to have faith.
1:25:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Every single human being, you, whether you're aware of where you have your faith,
1:25:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, that may be the case, but we all have our faith built on something and my faith is built upon like, like, like, like, this is exactly the way it's, it should be like there's nothing wrong here it may not be harmonious it may not be enjoyable, but, but
1:25:35
[SPEAKER_02]: It's right.
1:25:36
[SPEAKER_02]: The fact that the human consciousness is filled with like exploitative blind spots, like I don't think that's a problem.
1:25:43
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like that is a fact of how things are.
1:25:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And so when I hear a story, which always says, like this is the right way and you have to do it that way, you have to do it this way or have this belief or accept something without knowing it to be true.
1:26:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't ever take that too seriously because the truth of the matter is I've been put in a place where I do not have the skills to know if that is accurate or not and you're telling me that it's so important.
1:26:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like I just don't think that's how this place works.
1:26:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a story which a man would tell me.
1:26:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:26:28
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the wisdom you gain over the years being the suspect of like spending all the time like going down a lot of fun paths and going back to the thing if I don't need to make I could be wrong.
1:26:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I could like what I said to you could be an inaccurate way of of moving forward through this realm.
1:26:50
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why like I why I say like if I don't need to make that decision.
1:26:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm going to hold off for making that decision because it doesn't, there's, there's no need for me to make that decision right now.
1:27:02
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
1:27:03
[SPEAKER_02]: If I had seven items in my card at the bins and I saw something that I wanted more like I have to make the decision in that moment of what I'm going to get rid of.
1:27:13
[SPEAKER_02]: But some of the other decisions I don't need to make decisions right now.
1:27:17
[SPEAKER_02]: This is like when I talk about like with mapping.
1:27:22
[SPEAKER_02]: is like, that's a piece of the map because we have been conditioned by how we've been indoctrinated to think that a lot of decisions need to be made that don't need to be made.
1:27:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Like our culture is very much, um, and our indoctrination is very much based upon the power of like
1:27:49
[SPEAKER_02]: of putting someone in an uncomfortable situation to make a decision.
1:27:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Remember I said, like everything we do, like as human beings improves, when we are at greater levels of easement.
1:28:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And so when you find yourself in positions that
1:28:08
[SPEAKER_02]: increase your discomfort, your internal tension and it is good policy to be able to to become at ease with internal tension.
1:28:18
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a truth to that, but a lot of times whenever you see something which is trying to create tension or something, you know, it's a good indication that that might not be the path to go or that that may not be something to put too much
1:28:39
[SPEAKER_02]: If you can play it, that's why scene is so fucking cool is because it makes it playful.
1:28:46
[SPEAKER_02]: There is something that does happen like
1:28:50
[SPEAKER_02]: So I told you that bike riding situation.
1:28:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm creating a very, very, very tense situation.
1:28:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm riding with no fucking hands.
1:29:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't hear anything because I got headphones on.
1:29:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I probably smoked a little bit of cannabis before I start.
1:29:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, there are people all around.
1:29:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that should be tension-filled.
1:29:13
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm trying to find easement within it.
1:29:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what's so cool about the bike is like the only way you could ride the bike is to be in physical relaxation.
1:29:25
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you go, like if you're drawn to these sort of things that are kind of like fringy and quote unquote, like mentally dangerous, like if you could do that in a way
1:29:41
[SPEAKER_02]: that it doesn't necessarily have where it's playful, where you can move in and out of it, where you don't have any skin in the game, well then you could still like go ahead and play with it.
1:29:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got this guy who I'm kind of friends with and real kind of like his identity is built around his spiritual,
1:30:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's really into a lot like he's, you know, gone to India and spent time in an ashram studying at the foot of a guru and he's gone to this place.
1:30:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Like a lot of different types of belief systems and he's definitely has a lot of good experience and then he shares a lot of it.
1:30:26
[SPEAKER_02]: That seems to be, that seems to be his take.
1:30:31
[SPEAKER_02]: young guy I think he's probably like 30 and and I like to watch him like it's it's it's fun for me to see that and he's just recently picked up um Christianity it's just picked up Christianity and he is 100% like fully vested in it and um and he's speaking with authority and his authority comes from
1:30:58
[SPEAKER_02]: like listen I've like checked all these different things I've like you know with an open heart I've gone and I've checked out all these different belief systems and I've come and I've realized like nothing nothing speaks to me more than like you know the the Christian church and the Christian teachings and now he's like he's kind of like preaching and he's he's telling
1:31:24
[SPEAKER_02]: What I've noticed, in terms of watching him, is that the lightness, like not being heavy, that's what I mean by lightness, has gone away, like he has lost his ability to move in and out of all of these different narratives, all of these different stories, that there's no way of knowing what is accurate or not.
1:31:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And to me, from my observational lens, and I say this in a discernment lens and not a judgment lens.
1:31:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Judgment means that you added value to it.
1:32:02
[SPEAKER_02]: To certain it is, you're just calling it as it is.
1:32:05
[SPEAKER_02]: He's, you know, because he's lost that lightness with it because he's lost that playfulness with that, because he's lost that suddenly now it matters.
1:32:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like it, it, the magic he had with it, you know, and that's just how it is for right now, you know, we'll see what he's talking about in six weeks.
1:32:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that, it seems to me like this is where he is, I'll be curious to see if he gets stuck there.
1:32:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be curious to see how this unfolds.
1:32:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe somebody I can have on the podcast.
1:32:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I love feeding people to you like I interact with like I always have this interaction with a lot of different people like I would say one of the one of the things I and which I enjoy the most about you know being me is I get to meet a lot really really interesting people and I want
1:33:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to give them a platform where they can tell stories and share their experiences because we're all just trying to figure this fucking thing out.
1:33:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I love feeding things to people to you and I would love to be able to do that.
1:33:18
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.
1:33:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I was kind of, we'll talk about that offline because I don't know, I don't think this guy listens to this show.
1:33:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm wondering if you'd be able to figure out that I was talking about them that way.
1:33:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought I was speaking under the air of anonymity, but you know,
1:33:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It is what I feel.
1:33:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I like it.
1:33:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Towards the end, so they'd have to be pretty diligent to listen to my show for the first time and make it all the way to the end, maybe somebody.
1:33:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Some people do that.
1:33:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Me, I like to dip my toes in and that usually takes a few episodes before I'm really hooked and I'm like, I'll listen to...
1:33:59
[SPEAKER_02]: you'll listen to a whole thing.
1:34:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:34:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:34:03
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
1:34:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So I've got like a, I've got maybe about 10 minutes left.
1:34:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to open the floor to you, Mark.
1:34:11
[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to like ask or say anything specifically, as it relates to that anything you saw in the
1:34:17
[SPEAKER_02]: video, or any of the titles of any of the other videos, because I think I put out really, really good material for the first part of this year, but it's heavy.
1:34:28
[SPEAKER_02]: It's an hour, maybe sometimes two hours long and not everyone can can is going to go and listen to it, just like what you were saying.
1:34:36
[SPEAKER_02]: So anything you want to bring up or ask, uh, you know what I'm talking about?
1:34:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure if you've covered this yet because I haven't watched all of the videos you put out towards the beginning of this year up to the summer.
1:34:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And I concur for all the fans of Mike one.
1:34:58
[SPEAKER_00]: This is some, uh, what do the kids say?
1:35:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, O.G.
1:35:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Mike, why is O.G.
1:35:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Susquana alchemy material coming back?
1:35:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's definitely like a retro Susquana alchemy vibe going on in the past few videos.
1:35:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I really don't know what that means.
1:35:17
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what carries.
1:35:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Throw back to you.
1:35:19
[SPEAKER_00]: How you did it?
1:35:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I understand what you mean by OG.
1:35:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying I don't know what I did to be OG and what I'm doing now, which is like, like, that's what I don't know what it means.
1:35:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Or you're giving or as the kids say,
1:35:34
[SPEAKER_02]: But how am I replicating what I used to?
1:35:37
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm blind to is what did I used to be like?
1:35:41
[SPEAKER_02]: And then how is this like that?
1:35:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, you don't need to answer that.
1:35:44
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that's a curious observation.
1:35:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so this I want to put in front of you and we all know anyone who's a fan of your work knows that the Kobe Bryant death date was a big event for many reasons for your research and your life.
1:36:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So were you familiar at all with the artist Oliver Tree maybe before he yeah I saw this happen like this was bring me up to speed with like the details of that case.
1:36:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, according to a guest in that case, like we're, we're detectives.
1:36:20
[SPEAKER_02]: We're like two colleagues.
1:36:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're figuring this out.
1:36:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me just, we're going to bring you right back to this.
1:36:26
[SPEAKER_02]: So on my truck, I've got my like logo.
1:36:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got this like 2003.
1:36:32
[SPEAKER_02]: white, ubiquitous, forward-rangeer, and I have a magnet on there of my Susquehanna Alchemy logo, and I drive around, I think it's really pretty cool.
1:36:42
[SPEAKER_02]: But what I originally wanted to do, what I originally designed to make a magnet was Susquehanna Alchemy Detective Services, and it was like, get image of me with like a Sherlock Holmes had a cartoon image and a magnifying glass.
1:36:59
[SPEAKER_02]: But I decided to check this out, it's illegal to call yourself a detective agency, if you're not actually like, if you're not licensed to do so.
1:37:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the only reason why I did not do that, but it was like my fantasy.
1:37:15
[SPEAKER_02]: So now you and I get to play that, that like detective, like that.
1:37:18
[SPEAKER_02]: That was the game before we go back.
1:37:23
[SPEAKER_02]: The only thing I ever thought of as a child for a profession I wanted to do, like they used to ask at all the time, like what do you want to do when you grow up?
1:37:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And for the most part, I was like shut up old person, but like eventually, I said that because I didn't have an answer, because there'd be kids, we're like, I want to be a doctor, I want to be this.
1:37:43
[SPEAKER_02]: But I want to say probably around fifth grade, I was like, oh my god.
1:37:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to be a detective and for like Christmas, like my parents fought me like all of these like true crime detective stuff totally inappropriate shit to give like an 11 year old like all these like like pictures of like dead bodies and shit.
1:38:00
[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, there is a possibility that when I was like 13 years old when I wanted to be a detective, I had a massive head injury and I went into a coma state.
1:38:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And all of this is just my coma state, which we're having right now.
1:38:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And my colonel state is fed by the fact that I wanted to be a detective.
1:38:20
[SPEAKER_02]: So you and I talking right now, and as I said, we're on this case, is like tapping into my desire to always be this detective.
1:38:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I feel like that's what we're doing.
1:38:30
[SPEAKER_02]: We're like solving something.
1:38:32
[SPEAKER_02]: So that being said, tell me about the tree guy.
1:38:34
[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, I'll tell you what I know.
1:38:37
[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, I guess, a pretty big YouTube, known through web platforms as a musical artist.
1:38:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And he died in somewhere in South America.
1:38:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Did he die like parachuting or maybe bungee jumping, maybe in Brazil?
1:38:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And there was something with Kobe Bryant.
1:38:58
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what I know.
1:39:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So he also died in a helicopter.
1:39:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And the helicopter crash.
1:39:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:39:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And is he Griffin who was on the show recently?
1:39:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Gave us a statistic.
1:39:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember which number off the top of my head, but it was some number of
1:39:20
[SPEAKER_00]: These are weeks or whatever from the Kobe Bryant helicopter crash and it felt significant.
1:39:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember for it was in it was it had a resonator like there were there were attributes that like added to it being of how they're connected.
1:39:40
[SPEAKER_00]: All right so the other side of it is that
1:39:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Oliver Tree, as you mentioned, was famous from being an online personality, TikTok.
1:39:54
[SPEAKER_00]: He kind of was one of the first musicians to really capitalize on TikTok in a successful way and figured out how to use TikTok to his advantage as a musician.
1:40:06
[SPEAKER_02]: What does that even mean?
1:40:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he made money?
1:40:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like he, because it's such a limited platform with 60 seconds, a lot of artists were apprehensive to, you know, use it, whereas he, ah, he found how he found a way to make those 60 seconds.
1:40:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I never was a fan of his music, but there are a few songs of his that I recognize when I went back up to go, I've heard this before this is a good song.
1:40:43
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, he's got talent, but it was interesting because as soon as he goes independent, of course, something like this happens.
1:40:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And around the same time, he's going independent and starting his own label or what have you.
1:40:59
[SPEAKER_00]: creating these videos for Spanish-speaking audiences, warning children about pizza gate, and putting videos out for English-speaking audiences telling them he's going to Antarctica to investigate the ice wall.
1:41:12
[SPEAKER_00]: He really was seemingly choreographing his own death, like, and that is making
1:41:24
[SPEAKER_00]: did he fake his own death and that's why he was putting all this stuff out before this helicopter crash and he's got a song that talks about dying and falling from the sky.
1:41:35
[SPEAKER_00]: So like yeah, there's a lot of me on the bone there and I just thought I'd bring it up for you because I know I know the Kobe Bryant thing was big for you and you're one of the few synchromistic sleuths that can
1:41:54
[SPEAKER_02]: like you on the well done very well done all right so here's another possibility of what this place is so this places like it's funhouse like fun like actual fun and there are people that figured out like
1:42:11
[SPEAKER_02]: how to be here forever, like how to keep on coming back to the video game and then their whole bunch of us that haven't figured out how to do it yet and so the people who have figured it out, they're kind of like coming back and they're goofing on us.
1:42:23
[SPEAKER_02]: But they're they're they're they're given clues like they're not trying to be jerks, but they're like they're they're and so this could be that.
1:42:30
[SPEAKER_02]: So when you bring up the fake your own death, I think about that all the time.
1:42:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I think about that like as a possibility, I don't know if that's the case.
1:42:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And it does sound like talking about pizza gate and Antarctica and, you know, that's just very tropey for it's true.
1:42:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I mean, that's like, if it were 2016, right?
1:43:00
[SPEAKER_02]: But I recognize it is still valid in certain circles
1:43:09
[SPEAKER_02]: one of the things which from my perspective, I see a lot is that it's almost like is is a cotton eddy when water like just like spins round and round like in a river or creek it just gets kind of stuck there.
1:43:24
[SPEAKER_02]: So I see like a lot of
1:43:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Eddie behavior in like people they'll get they'll get stuck somewhere where I said before like my friend who like wow he went he used to have this looseness and this playfulness with his investigation and now it's heavy and so that's like an Eddie heavy Eddie wow that would be the name of a really
1:43:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, right now, I don't think any of it, I'm a question to a greater degree if any of it is other than just a bunch of fucking like Wizard of Oz bullshit.
1:44:27
[SPEAKER_02]: When you're eight, and you get, like, is it highlights, you know, highlights magazine is?
1:44:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Remember it's like being the dentist's office and they would have like this picture.
1:44:40
[SPEAKER_02]: And in that picture is hidden, like all of these like, you know, there's like a glove and you gotta find the glove and you circle all of that.
1:44:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And like there's a point in your life here like, this is freaking awesome.
1:44:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And then like you usually hit like maybe 11 and you're like, this is the, you've outgrown it.
1:44:58
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, this is silly.
1:44:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't even believe this captured my intention.
1:45:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that with a lot of the stuff nowadays, which is being put out there.
1:45:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like almost like,
1:45:10
[SPEAKER_02]: too much.
1:45:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And this could be like, there are many reasons why it's gotten gotten to that level, at least for me, but I don't think it's just me observing it.
1:45:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think that the market has become saturated if you will.
1:45:31
[SPEAKER_02]: This kind of feels like that.
1:45:33
[SPEAKER_02]: It kind of feels like that, but I
1:45:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's not throw the baby out with the bath water with the story.
1:45:44
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the sensationalism of lake.
1:45:49
[SPEAKER_02]: This guy was on to something.
1:45:50
[SPEAKER_02]: He was going to release the pizza gate.
1:45:53
[SPEAKER_02]: He was going to finally, like, you know, like, that's what they said about, like, well, was a Chris Cornell, all the people, all of the celebrities who are dead with the red rope.
1:46:03
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like the day before they were going to release like the human trafficking.
1:46:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, anyone fucking knows about human trafficking?
1:46:09
[SPEAKER_02]: If they were to tell them people, no one would have given a fuck.
1:46:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the head of the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the
1:46:29
[SPEAKER_02]: What's to come next?
1:46:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but that feels to me like part of the story, but I am intrigued by the whole Kobe Bryant thing.
1:46:40
[SPEAKER_02]: And you are right, like the helicopter crash for a death like that's going to resonate with the uniqueness of all helicopter crashes and Kobe Bryant is definitely
1:46:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, one of the most notorious of the helicopter crashes would be curious to know what you said your friend was an IV.
1:47:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he like, is he, is he, what, what, is he like, I remember seeing that really quite briefly because I would want to go and lean into that a little bit more heavily because if we're going to go and detect this, like, that's where I'd want to go with it.
1:47:16
[SPEAKER_02]: But, but, um, I don't know, there might be something fun there, but that being said,
1:47:31
[SPEAKER_02]: as like Kobe Bryant stuff, his like entered my feed to a greater, greater level.
1:47:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Like my appreciation of whatever whomever Kobe Bryant was, like I definitely think Kobe Bryant is definitely definitely on the list of potential like, yeah, this guy figured it out.
1:47:52
[SPEAKER_02]: He came here, fake this death and he's like coming back and he's like he's he's he's he's he's he's he's goofing everyone.
1:48:00
[SPEAKER_02]: There are people who look at the same sort of scenario and they'll be like, no, these are the fallen angels and they're doing this and they're sucking your life force.
1:48:06
[SPEAKER_02]: But yes, they are goofing.
1:48:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so I'm talking about the same thing.
1:48:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I'm going to go that far with the conclusion.
1:48:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't, I don't need to make that decision.
1:48:15
[SPEAKER_02]: But I definitely think that that's a good possibility that there are those that are cut that are,
1:48:23
[SPEAKER_02]: faking deaths never dying.
1:48:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I do think that if you come to the skill set of where you figured out that like you can control your body from the source code level, like that's what controlled immortality in this realm would be.
1:48:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't think that anyone needs to eat.
1:48:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that I think sickness is all just, like, people really do get sick.
1:48:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I get sick sometimes.
1:48:51
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's all part of the indoctrination program.
1:48:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that would make sense.
1:48:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm not saying this the case.
1:48:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just open to this as being one of the possibilities is that as one's figures out how this realm works, that's why maps are so important.
1:49:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you get to become one of those people who gets to fake their own death and come back and forth and gets to play characters and does something ridiculous, like, like, yeah, let's become TikTok famous now.
1:49:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, again, I don't know if that's what's happening but that's one of the stories I'm at least open to.
1:49:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:49:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:49:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Your ranch, yeah, maybe not so much,
1:49:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that seems to be part of like I don't like I don't have a problem with any of that stuff.
1:49:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
1:49:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I mean, I don't have a problem either and I don't have a problem with you having a problem with it if you did have a problem with it.
1:49:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So.
1:49:54
[SPEAKER_00]: But I do I do want to say.
1:49:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Your handbook for the apocalypse.
1:50:01
[SPEAKER_00]: We were kind of like detectives on that show and 100% So, you know...
1:50:06
[SPEAKER_02]: There were six years ahead of them curve.
1:50:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say we're more apocalyptic down than ever!
1:50:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's I mean, maybe that's just next time you're on the show.
1:50:14
[SPEAKER_00]: We just call it the, you know, apocalyptic detectives or something like that.
1:50:18
[SPEAKER_00]: We come up with some kind of title like that and just roll with it because I do like I do like the idea of us getting to the bottom of some of these cases, figuring things out and catching that would be a set up of a show.
1:50:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
1:50:34
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll put this out there right now.
1:50:38
[SPEAKER_02]: We open this up to listeners and they give us cases.
1:50:43
[SPEAKER_02]: They put us on a case.
1:50:44
[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly it.
1:50:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And now because the thing which I don't want to do is have to decide what we're going to go and investigate.
1:50:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to give you something to investigate and we can go and and that would be fun.
1:50:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyone listening to this?
1:50:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Send us some good stuff.
1:51:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't send us stuff with obvious answers or solutions.
1:51:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Send us some good stuff.
1:51:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Unsolve mysteries, conspiracies.
1:51:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Unsolve mysteries.
1:51:11
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to solve some frigid mysteries.
1:51:13
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have some people come and after us because we're solving mysteries.
1:51:16
[SPEAKER_02]: They thought wouldn't remain unsolved.
1:51:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, how can you come after a man who doesn't exist?
1:51:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll play their mark.
1:51:29
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be a lot of that on our new show.
1:51:31
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, all right.
1:51:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's something we could have a lot of fun with.
1:51:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got 100 days with good internet connection.
1:51:37
[SPEAKER_02]: So I can guarantee that I can guarantee that are we wrapping up right now?
1:51:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and we'll probably do another episode next month.
1:51:47
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, if that was great, and I want to say to all the listeners, like hit me up if you need any of your own internal mapping done.
1:51:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, this is the way how I make my way through this realm.
1:52:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So let me know what you're interested in and we'll see what we can do.
1:52:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Michael worked with you one on one.
1:52:07
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a great mine.
1:52:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely someone you want in your corner no matter what you're going through in life So don't be shy hit him up at Sussfohana alchemy on Instagram your YouTube channel has He may I was probably the best but to direct them to your oh I think that's on your YouTube channel, right?
1:52:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it is.
1:52:29
[SPEAKER_00]: If it's not, people can get in touch with me for his email, Mike, what's your email?
1:52:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Just tell people now.
1:52:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
1:52:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's best to see it written, but MKWA and at Comcast.net.
1:52:43
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just.
1:52:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Purely coincidence that it's called MK Ultra and my email is MK-1, like that's just straight up coincidence.
1:52:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I came up with the email when Comcast still was like a like a like a domain name which was in use.
1:52:58
[SPEAKER_02]: It still works, but it's just coincidence that the seemingly very, very expert knowledgeable MK Ultra investigators email is MK-1.
1:53:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you'll find out the answer to that on the next episode of you think some crazy or the synchromistic detectives will see we'll see.
1:53:22
[SPEAKER_02]: The synchromistic apocalyptic detectives.
1:53:24
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
1:53:25
[SPEAKER_00]: AK sad.
1:53:29
[SPEAKER_00]: See, well, you could put the M in there, mad, we're sad and mad, mad, but anyways, Mike, you're the best, always great to have you on the show.
1:53:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Follow up with Mike folks and until next episode, we'll see you wherever we see you until then, immerse yourself in the moment, wherever you are in the now.
1:54:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And that does it folks.
1:54:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for tuning in to this episode with our returning friend Michael one who I could have sworn I've done more than two episodes with him this year and I was right.
1:54:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I've done three episodes with him this year but only two have been posted well maybe there was one in January as well so maybe three have been posted.
1:54:29
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's an extra one that I found from March that I definitely didn't post and I will be posting it very soon.
1:54:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe I posted the video of this episode, but for whatever reason I did not post this episode's audio.
1:54:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll be coming out soon.
1:54:48
[SPEAKER_00]: along with other great new episodes with new guests.
1:54:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I look forward to that and we'll see you on the next episode.
1:54:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Until then, thank you for tuning in to this episode of My Family Thinks of Crazy Podcast and the merch yourself in the moment wherever you are in the now.