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- smiley: gonna play the music later. Trying to find it. There it is. There it is. goodness. PropJosh: shit. shit. It's to be Tuesday. 7evenThirty: Yeah. smiley: I think I'll keep all that. PropJosh: Ha ha ha. smiley: We won't we won't fix that in post. This was just PropJosh: It went perfectly. 7evenThirty: Yeah. PropJosh: So when we talk about this time on this two be Tuesday. 7evenThirty: Good man Part three. smiley: A good man three. Man. PropJosh: The trilogy. It made it to a trilogy. smiley: Yes. Yes. We see it. We see Kamal Smith pop up. we watch. That's ta that's kind of what we do. So I mean, you know, I didn't know it was out until Marcus dropped it. Yeah, he dropped it in the group chat. And 7evenThirty: Is it like that? PropJosh: I do, man. I can't Marcus was posting about it. Yeah, I didn't know yeah, I didn't know it was out at all. smiley: he was like, first five seconds of the movie. Your fault, Marcus. 7evenThirty: So it's my fault. What's funny PropJosh: Ha ha ha. 7evenThirty: is I didn't even finish this movie. PropJosh: So that's gonna be fun. smiley: my goodness. Yeah. Yeah. We're here to talk about PropJosh: it's not smiley: it. We're not gonna walk through the whole movie, but we'll talk about it and we'll spoil it for Marcus. So if you haven't watched, listen to our other podcast episodes about Good Man One and Two. Do we do one and two? Yeah. PropJosh: Yes. 7evenThirty: Yes. smiley: So one and two. so we gotta PropJosh: So that's why we have to finish off the trilogy. smiley: do finish off the trilogy by talking about three. I was like, nah. Let's not talk about it. I told Marcus, I said, 7evenThirty: Ha ha ha. PropJosh: But we talked about the first two. smiley: You don't gotta watch this. goodness. PropJosh: I finished it. I I enjoyed it, but it is slow. 7evenThirty: Just will commit to to to finishing what what he says, even if it's torturous. smiley: Josh does that, you know? That's a thing that Josh does though. Josh is a committed person, you know. He sticks with it to the end. To the bitter end. PropJosh: To the bitter end, except for my marriage. So anyway smiley: Ha ha! Well, you can say he got to the bitter end. Not the way this movie PropJosh: Well yeah, it was a bitter in indeed. smiley: ends, though. It didn't get to that type of ending. He ended Okay, PropJosh: If I stayed in my marriage who would have been in that ending. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. smiley: all right. All right. Two B Tuesday. Let's talk about it. All right, so yeah, we'll probably drop a couple of clips. 7evenThirty: This is Josh's lawyer. smiley: Yes. PropJosh: Ha ha ha. smiley: goodness. PropJosh: Fun fact though, fun fact. All right, so I re listened to the sec to good man two. smiley: Yeah. 7evenThirty: Okay. PropJosh: That is the origin of our lawyers. 7evenThirty: Wait, so did you just happen to smiley: Is that is that when we first talked about it? PropJosh: Yeah, that's what we that's the origin of our lawyers was was the last podcast. Was they 7evenThirty: That's what that's when we first hired our lawyers. smiley: For good man two. PropJosh: start jumping into our podcast. smiley: man. What was the context of that? I can't remember. We gotta listen to it. Okay. PropJosh: You have to re-listen to it, but I remember we was 7evenThirty: How you know that was the first one? PropJosh: yeah, we were talking about because we said it a lot in the way it built up. We were talking about like we didn't want to say nothing incriminating because we was talking about 7evenThirty: Ha ha ha. PropJosh: how how Ethan would how it'd been better for him to get away with the murder if he did this way. And it was like we were like, This is our yeah, we shouldn't be talking like this. this is my lawyer. smiley: man. Okay. That's a running gag now. Yeah. Wow. PropJosh: And we said it a lot, so I was like, I'm pretty sure that was the first time we used it. Yeah. That was two years ago. So the last movie was two years ago. smiley: Okay. I didn't know I didn't think. I don't know if we said it at the end, but I'm like, I didn't we kind of thought it was gonna be a new one 'cause it it it ended in a way that was like it kind of like it wasn't a conclusion. So there was like if something PropJosh: Yeah. smiley: more could happen. But we don't know what it was. PropJosh: Yeah, w we definitely said that at the end of the podcast. We said that smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: we don't know what's going on with his best friend and with his brother and stuff like that. We was like we and I kept saying, we're gonna probably find out in the third one. And we do. So I was like, it's right, but it just took smiley: Yeah. Yeah. Yep. 7evenThirty: So PropJosh: two years to get come to the third one up. 7evenThirty: It's been that long, so remind me what happened to the brother 'cause d didn't the brother like help him do something in the second movie or something? PropJosh: So the brother he owns a like crematorium and 7evenThirty: That's right. PropJosh: s so he allowed him to burn to you know burn the victims or whatever, hide the victims' 7evenThirty: Yeah. PropJosh: bodies, which was which was what's her name? Ari Chaos and Chaos's family. smiley: That was at the end of the second one. PropJosh: That's with the beginning of the second one. And then the end of the smiley: Begin second one. 7evenThirty: Yeah. PropJosh: end of the second one was the his the three cops and smiley: yeah. PropJosh: Ari's mom were in that building and it caught on fire and stuff and Ethan's like, I don't know what happened. But he didn't say smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: they were the three cops. He just said that it was three bodies and he said that somebody probably broke in. Yeah, he said somebody broke in and and s and tried to set the building on fire and they end up smiley: Right. They were like it 'cause it was his building. That's right, I remember that now. Yeah. An arson. Yeah. Yep. PropJosh: being caught up in there. smiley: That was a lie, that was so stupid. That PropJosh: So that's the excuse he made, yeah. smiley: was a stupid, stupid excuse. 7evenThirty: What actually happened though? smiley: He burned them up. PropJosh: Well he 7evenThirty: I'm saying like h didn't he like superpower smiley: He tortured them in the basement. 7evenThirty: the cops? How did he overpower three cops? I guess. smiley: Well he kinda wasn't like one at a time. PropJosh: Yeah, it was one a time. He caught the 'cause there was the two cops investigating. He was dating one of and he found out that she had that she was married, so he got her and he got the the her her partner and had them tied up. And then when her husband came up there, he tried to get her husband to torture them with him, but he wouldn't do that. So Ethan ended up killing the husband and then killing the two cops. smiley: So PropJosh: Ha ha ha! smiley: So there were three cops though? PropJosh: Yes, there were three 'cause the the husband was a ex cop. smiley: okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it. Okay. So yep. All right. Well, this movie PropJosh: Yeah, if you remember. It's been two years. But in the movie yeah, in the movie it's two weeks later. smiley: Two weeks later. Okay. So we can tell part three is two weeks after 7evenThirty: Wait, part three is two weeks later from part two. All right. PropJosh: Yes. smiley: after the first after the second one. So PropJosh: Yes. smiley: yeah. Tell us what you 7evenThirty: Let's get in it. smiley: remember. Yeah, tell us what you remember about and why you stopped watching it, Marcus. 7evenThirty: so in the beginning, I remember the first scene was him having sex with some woman. And then right afterwards she was like, Yeah, you the best I ever had, or whatever, because he's always gotta be that guy in these movies and like PropJosh: my gosh. There's gonna be something there's smiley: my you even see the other PropJosh: gonna be something said later. I gotta I'm definitely gonna jump in. my gosh. smiley: part. 7evenThirty: Yeah. So she I guess she reveals that she's married, right? PropJosh: Yeah. smiley: Yeah, I think he knew though, right? 7evenThirty: And then he's like PropJosh: Yeah, he did. 7evenThirty: And then so he's like, Yeah, smiley: He knew she was married, but she talked about it. Yeah. 7evenThirty: you you women ain't shit. Y'all be cheating on y'all husbands. And then like he like choked her out. Right? smiley: Yeah, he finds out PropJosh: Yeah. smiley: about a app. She was like, Yeah, it's thanks to thanks to you and discreetly. Or the app. Yeah, the app. It's like PropJosh: Discreet yeah, discreetly. 7evenThirty: Discreetly. Yeah. Discreetly. Yeah. smiley: what app you talking about? 'Cause that for they just all have a pillow talk, like, yeah, 7evenThirty: Yeah. smiley: yeah, yeah, you good, you you know. But I'm I'm glad I don't I deal with my husband thanks to you and discreet the app. What app? Discreetly. What's that? You use the app. And then 7evenThirty: Yeah. Yeah. smiley: he uses that as vengeance. And then after he s chokes her out, he looks 7evenThirty: But what what smiley: at the app and he's like, This is World is despicable. And so Yeah. 7evenThirty: Yeah. And then it comes on with this intro PropJosh: I kind of like the intro. 7evenThirty: that's clearly AI. PropJosh: I know it's AI. 'Cause 7evenThirty: Yeah. PropJosh: I was like, they up the graphics. this is AI. 7evenThirty: Right. Yeah. smiley: I mean, the introduction, you know, it was a good I think that was a great way to start this movie. I think I wouldn't expect it another way, honestly. 7evenThirty: Yeah. smiley: I think that was the best way because it got your attention pretty quick. You kind of get the idea of like, okay, yeah, he's still crazy. I mean, you didn't think he wasn't, but like, you know, 7evenThirty: Course. I mean smiley: he's he's got and you also can see that he's like he's got a vendetta against women that cheat because he got cheated on a couple of times. But it's kinda like He knew sh did out 'cause I mean in the in the it's I thought it's like, did he know she was married when he was with her? 'Cause he kinda like it look it seemed like he didn't know. But he knew. 7evenThirty: He he reacted as if he didn't know. smiley: Right. PropJosh: Well, it I'm wondering is if it's supposed to be the same woman at the end of the second movie. 'Cause at the end of the second movie he was flirting with like a reporter or somebody and then smiley: okay. PropJosh: and she had like a wedding ring and he was like kinda and she and she was like, that's that's nothing and stuff and he was like, Mm and then went off. smiley: I do remember that. Yeah. Yeah, I remember that part. That's possible. 7evenThirty: so maybe it could it it is the same lady? smiley: Yeah. No, not necessarily. But it could be. Especially if it's two weeks. PropJosh: I don't know if it is, but it's it definitely showed you where the direction of where the movie series was going. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Yeah. Especially the fact that Ethan is sloppy as fuck when it comes to killing people. And so 7evenThirty: Yeah, he is. He is, yeah. PropJosh: and he just his body count is just getting bigger and bigger. And it's like he don't know what to do with all these bodies. So 'cause we he 'cause the well smiley: We'll make a list. Yeah. What did he do? The the bodies from 7evenThirty: Right. smiley: the f second movie burnt up in in the fire and they talk about it. They PropJosh: Yes, in the fire. To the point where they don't 7evenThirty: Is this the movie PropJosh: know where they were. 7evenThirty: where no no I'm I'm getting another tube movie confused with this. But the the o the only other thing I remember was he went to his therapist, right? He's talking to his therapist at the beginning PropJosh: Yes, 7evenThirty: and I remember then we catch up with his friend and he he gives up he says I'm quitting the business because they smiley: Yep. 7evenThirty: they buy like they're like in the high like high end real estate, commercial real estate business, right? And so they smiley: Mm-hmm. Yep. PropJosh: Right. Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: got like this thirty million dollar deal or something and he's deciding PropJosh: Yeah. smiley: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: to quit and his friend doesn't understand why and he's like, Well, you know, who's gonna run who's gonna run these projects? Who's gonna run it? He's like, yo, you could do it. I remember all that. And then smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Okay. smiley: That's it. 7evenThirty: I think he joins the app, right? smiley: Yeah, he does. PropJosh: Yeah, he goes off into the country, basically, his extra house smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: out in the country. 7evenThirty: All right, so right then at that point, I don't I think that's smiley: Yeah, Rod's the rest. 7evenThirty: what what cuts off. Yeah. smiley: Yeah, that makes sense. PropJosh: ho ho ho ho ho cool. 7evenThirty: Ha ha ha ha. smiley: I mean, the reason why it's like it's PropJosh: Ha ha ha. smiley: it's pretty drawn out a lot in this, and so it's kinda like it stretches now. They do do show a little bit of like backstory of like how he I think his mom or dad or parents, I didn't understand like his processing of his like grief that he dealt with. PropJosh: my gosh, we gotta play that scene. smiley: The scene of his p the flashback scene? PropJosh: Yeah, yeah. smiley: Okay. Why? PropJosh: the kid actors. smiley: my goodness. Okay. 7evenThirty: I do r I do also remember a scene where he hugged his brother, he caught up with his brother or something. smiley: Yeah, yeah. 7evenThirty: Is that shortly PropJosh: So, 7evenThirty: after what I remember? PropJosh: yeah, so this is what happened. After talking to his therapist, because his regular therapist wasn't there. And so he talked to a new therapist and he was upset about it. But he 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: 'cause he had to start over and tell her what's going on with him. And so the new therapist told him like he could start journaling things. yeah, 7evenThirty: Yeah, okay, I remembered it. I remember it. Yeah. PropJosh: but he could just do it through just recorded or whatever. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: And yeah, I guess while he's in therapy, maybe that's when he talked to about maybe that's when the flashback happened about his mom. smiley: Yeah, this is he's he's at therapy when the flashback happens, so we can play that here. PropJosh: okay. And so he talks about that his mom left them with his dad smiley: Yeah. PropJosh: because his dad was cheating lot. And it just kinda smiley: Yep. So we'll we'll play a little bit of this. PropJosh: Yeah. smiley: Oop. Oop. 7evenThirty: Mm. What? smiley: They own a playground if you listen in. 7evenThirty: Yeah. smiley: okay. PropJosh: No mama please. the the dad kinda looked like Courtney a little bit. 7evenThirty: Yeah. smiley: Kinda does. PropJosh: That's my first thought. I was like, wait a minute, Courtney. Anyway. smiley: Hmm. PropJosh: So he goes to his brother when you saw him hugging with his brother. That's when he went to his brother saying he's going to the house in the country, because only him and his best friend know about yeah, smiley: Knows about it. Yeah. PropJosh: just in case somebody comes asking questions and stuff. smiley: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: Okay. PropJosh: yeah. Because he's sloppy. smiley: So yeah, we'll yeah, he's crazy. So we just we just we'll talk a little bit. I think I didn't like the the cop, not only is he sloppy, but there's also stupid cops. It's like I feel like the cops should have been found him out because he's so sloppy. They do show a scene with the cops and they're like, you know. PropJosh: Now the cop scene, I liked it, but at the same time, it's a giant asshole in the plot with the cop scene. And they shouldn't 7evenThirty: Okay. smiley: What's the whole? PropJosh: have did this. All right. So the cop, I like the like the cop chief or whatever. He was telling him, you know, he's they're suspecting Ethan. Like, yeah, this is definitely Ethan and the and the the brand new detective. He's like, Yeah, I'm gonna get on it and stuff. And and the chief is all like, Well, you gotta take so and so with you. He's like, No, I can handle it on my own. I can do this on my own, chief. No You bring so and so with you. Okay, fine. I'll go get so and smiley: No, no. So he's PropJosh: so. smiley: well, no, so it wasn't that. So he actually said, like, he said, either you take him, if you better do you better do it, PropJosh: Or g give so and so the case. smiley: he'll give you the case. But he's like, if he doesn't get the case, well, you better do a good job. I think that's kind of how it ended. Yeah. So he kind of like he PropJosh: is that what happened? Cause smiley: convinced him. He said, I could do it on my own, Chief. Like, trust me. He's like, Well, you better do a good job. And that was kind of how it ended. But like, it was definitely PropJosh: 'cause we never see so and so, the other person he's talking about. smiley: They definitely had another movie though, because that was a whole nother movie. 7evenThirty: Like a buddy cop movie. smiley: A bunny cop movie. It was a buddy cop movie because he's all just as fresh PropJosh: Put me on a case. smiley: Yeah, he's he was going radio in the case, you know, or you know, rookie cop just trying to just trying to do his own thing. And he's like, No, no, I can do this on my own. And he's all he's all a brilliant genius that just knows how to solve everything in an instant. 'Cause that's the thing. That's the gimmick. That's the gimmick for the other movie. 7evenThirty: Right. Mm-hmm. PropJosh: You wanna make a spinoff, that's what it is. Yeah. You gonna team up with the rookie cop from the rookie cop from what's her name? smiley: It's called it's called genius cop, that's what it's called Yeah. I'll be the genius cop, I'll be the genius cop, rookie dude 7evenThirty: So Kamal Smith if if you do a spinoff of this, Jason's gotta be in the movie somewhere. It it'd be it'd be funny if you if you were the same news reporter that you were in the other movies. smiley: that's funny. I am I am on a 2D movie. Yeah, PropJosh: yeah, yeah, in Carlton's movie. 7evenThirty: Yeah. smiley: that's true. goodness. PropJosh: Yeah, me too. I play a DJ. smiley: So but yeah, so yeah, that's so yeah, we already said about the stuff that he did. So let's talk about his killings because I think this is where it's like, you know, he's it's drawn out a lot to like he's trying to show the movie's trying to show how crazy Ethan is. But it it kind of starts off with this idea that he's like this vigilante. So you kind of see that he's do he has his vendetta against cheaters. So he joins this app called Discreetly so that he can find the cheaters, the women who 'cause it's it's a whole app that gets you to cheat on your husband. That's kinda how he says it. And so, you know, he 7evenThirty: Right. smiley: ends up down on the app and then meeting people in the app to basically be a serial killer that kills that's kind of where the plot you think the plot is going in that direction. 7evenThirty: Right. Yeah, 'cause th the app is just the app is made for smiley: Josh is is smirking. 7evenThirty: married people who want to step out and have some fun discreetly. Mm hmm. smiley: who want to cheat discreetly. So yep. Why are you smirking, Josh? Did you did you join the app? okay. PropJosh: Sorry, I'm just I'm thinking about a couple of C's that's coming up, that's all. I was just thinking 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: about some C's that's No, no, no, they're later. 7evenThirty: I'm ready to hear these scenes he grinned about. smiley: Go ahead, talk about it. We I mean, we ain't here all day. PropJosh: They're much later, that's why. But yeah, yeah. 7evenThirty: Are you gonna bring it up so where I can see? All smiley: Well, yeah, I pull I'll pull up 7evenThirty: right. smiley: the scenes when we need to talk about but it's a commercial break right now. PropJosh: Yeah, well 'cause 'cause there's a couple of scenes I'm just like laughing about. But yeah, maybe you should bring up 7evenThirty: You already smile. smiley: I know. Just talk about it. Just talk about it. The movie 'cause I mean it's it's a two hour movie. It could have been thirty minutes. You know what I mean? Like we know he ends up tying up people at the end in a basement. That's his thing. So like Yes, you asked. Yes. And torturing them. Yes. PropJosh: That's what his thing is. 7evenThirty: Didn't I text you that I said does does he end up tying people up something and torturing somebody? smiley: Mm-hmm. That's what he does. That's PropJosh: That's yeah, that's the formula. smiley: the thing. So we already know that's gonna happen. So let's just talk about how he kills the people that he kills over the next couple of yeah. PropJosh: Well, the first person, the first victim, shows up 'cause, you know, of course it was a long time we get to it 'cause there's a lot of, you know, background. There's a lot of the detective trying to find Ethan. He he questions his Ethan's best friend Mal Matthew, and then he smiley: Got us at the the office. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah. Then he questions Ethan's brother, James. And Ethan well Ethan goes by the name Malcolm. smiley: questions his brother. Yep. Mac Malcolm and James. Malcolm. PropJosh: on the on the site. I know that's why I was like, wait a minute. smiley: Yeah he does. He does. He does. 7evenThirty: that's hilarious. Ha ha ha. smiley: So there's a Matthew, there's a Malcolm and there's a James in this in this movie. So yeah. All right. All right. Tomorrow if you're listening, you probably are listening. PropJosh: Yes, there's a there's literally a Malcolm and James and a Matthew in all in this movie. 7evenThirty: Alright, so wait, so who's playing Yo, that is crazy, Malcolm and Jane. Who's playing the detective? Marcus Woods. PropJosh: I don't know that actor. smiley: At all. 7evenThirty: Marcus Woods. Okay. smiley: Yeah, I didn't recognize him, but so the first people that he kills, he ends up they ref there's a return. There's a return. PropJosh: that's right. Yes, yes smiley: I'll show a little bit of this, so Marcus can see. But there is a turn return of his ex wife and his best friend from the was that from the first movie? Yeah. 7evenThirty: Yep. Yeah, who was fucking in the first movie caught him a cheap. PropJosh: Yeah, from the first movie. Yeah, he found them. smiley: Yeah. So yep. PropJosh: And he confronts them in being crazy like he is, but then okay, okay. 7evenThirty: Yeah, yeah. I did see this part. I went 'cause you remember earlier smiley: Okay, yeah. 7evenThirty: today I tried to finish this movie again and then I I got I s I remember getting to about this part. Yeah, yeah. And he he's so stupid. He like choked him out or so. He like beat his ass. smiley: Yeah. So you saw you saw his first kill. Yeah, okay. Yes. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So they yeah, there's a we'll we'll we'll play a little bit of Yep, there it is. He's he's he's he's he's there. A kill though. He he's playing the crazy role well though. Like that's the thing. I think he's having fun. PropJosh: He does, he does. smiley: Honestly, he's definitely having fun with that role. PropJosh: One hundred percent. smiley: A hundred percent. Like, I feel like that's his that's just like how crazy can you be? That's the whole point of this movie though. The whole point of this movie is just trying to see how crazy 7evenThirty: Turn it down. smiley: he's gonna be. PropJosh: I actually believed him in that part. smiley: yeah. 7evenThirty: You believed who in their part? PropJosh: I believe Ethan also this part right here. smiley: Why did he want him to hit him? PropJosh: Cause he thought he was normal. He thought he would get over it after he hits him. smiley: Yeah. He he didn't realize he was a serial killer. PropJosh: Mm. smiley: This is this is like Okay. We'll stop here. 7evenThirty: Yeah, we'd play like two minutes of this movie alright. smiley: Yeah, we did talk about it already. So Yep. PropJosh: Yeah, that's the main part I wanted to see. So yeah, he keeps going. 7evenThirty: Yeah. What what what I also smiley: We see it. 7evenThirty: find interesting is that nobody can ever throw a lick toward Ethan. Nobody ever fights him back. It's he just smiley: He's super powered, man. Yeah. Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: overpowers everybody. He hit him he hit PropJosh: He's super powerful. Not even Superman could beat Ethan. 7evenThirty: him one time and he went down. And that was it. You know. smiley: Yep. Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Well, I mean he got all that anger in him, so I could believe that, you know. I think you know. smiley: Yeah, it was it was he was angry. So he definitely used that to his his superpower advantage. PropJosh: Yeah. So he could probably take someone down if he was, you know. That's but that's why he grabbed a weapon. Yeah. And then he kills the the ex wife as well. smiley: So that's his first kill. So he kills. Mm-hmm. And they cut that pretty quick. PropJosh: Which we did say when we was talking about the second movie. How come he hasn't killed them? So I guess that movie answers it like, yeah, he went back smiley: Mm. Yeah. PropJosh: and found them and and did that. But I did believe him when he's was talking about he's talking to his therapist about forgiveness and I thought he was gonna be like, I forgive you, then leave. But then also of course I smiley: Did you really think that? You actually thought, this is a different type of movie. It's gonna go different. Exactly. And so he is a good man, after all. 7evenThirty: wow, the movies this is a short movie. Turns out he was a good man. PropJosh: 'Cause the music changed and he was all it changed. It's like, you know, but I forgive you. And then he hugs and then they leave. And then it says the good man 7evenThirty: A good man. This is a movie fifteen minutes long. smiley: Yup. PropJosh: So he actually gets to 7evenThirty: Good man three. PropJosh: the house in the country, smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: and gets on the app and then he meets a girl on through the app and he goes by the name Malcolm. And smiley: Yeah. PropJosh: yeah, she shows up just spilling her business to him because he's I guess I forgot if he was asking her questions or she's just volunteering that information. But I know he started asking more and more questions because he was trying to find out about why she was on the app. Maybe he asked her why smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: she was on the app. And she said Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was down. Yeah. She was like, Whatever your name is, I'm down. We gonna fuck or what? And he's like, Well smiley: Well, she was just ready. She was down for what she you know, she was just down to do what she was gonna do. And so Right. Yeah. PropJosh: let me talk to you a little bit and stuff and and she mentioned that she smiley: Meet me down in the in the sunroom. PropJosh: Yeah. smiley: Leave me downstairs, I'm gonna bring you a meal in the sunroom. 7evenThirty: the sunroom. Wait, wait, wait, wait. He brought her to the sunroom. smiley: To have tea. 7evenThirty: Yeah. I'm assuming PropJosh: Did you see 7evenThirty: he killed her. smiley: Yeah. PropJosh: No, he just he just let her, you know. Just hung out with her and talked. No. smiley: Yep. They just had a nice 7evenThirty: I do remember him mentioning the sunroom, man, I really didn't make it through this movie. My attention was just all over the place. smiley: they just had a nice you didn't. You didn't. There was a there was another character. PropJosh: That's it right there, yep. smiley: there was another character that 7evenThirty: Yeah, okay. smiley: that they were showing that was like dealing with her own marital problems that was like a side plot. So but that was happening that was happening throughout. That was happening throughout. PropJosh: Yeah, we'll get to her. We'll we'll get to I was gonna mention her, definitely, 'cause she's a very important character at the same time. smiley: So it was kind of one of those things where it's like you weren't invested in, you kind of was like, What is going on with them? And like, why is it so long and drawn out? and so that was one of those things. But yeah, so so we this is where he was like, Okay, yeah, he's he's trying to be a vigilante, right? That's his thing. Like he's trying to find women who don't appreciate their husbands and kill them. So that's what he does. PropJosh: Yeah. Cause from his point of view, he's making it sound like all these a whole bunch of women are cheating on their husbands and these husbands are just all good men, not doing anything wrong. It's just smiley: Good men. Yep. Mm-hmm. PropJosh: they're just all being done wrong by all these women. So it's definitely a little one sided the way he's thinking. Cause he's not blaming any guy at all. He's not saying these g you know. smiley: Yep. No. PropJosh: It's like these guys 'cause like 'cause the woman that he was talking to in this She said she worked two jobs and her husband got fired from his job and then, you know, she got to be the breadwinner. And so now she's got a smiley: No. PropJosh: she so she's 7evenThirty: Ha ha ha. PropJosh: neglecting him or whatever. Yeah, 'cause yeah, 'cause he's a deadbeat. So she's like, Well, I'm gonna go fuck and stuff since he's a deadbeat. Which is weird because the first woman he killed in this movie, it was the other way around. The husband was was busy and stuff, and she was not she didn't have a job, so she was like, Well, he's too busy for me, so I'm gonna go fuck somebody. So it's like so from his point of view, it's like no matter what the guy, the innocent poor man does, the women always cheat and mess up all these good men like me. All these good men that deserve, you know. 7evenThirty: Right, right. Right. He just got it said in his mind smiley: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: that the men ain't doing nail kind of wrong and PropJosh: Right, right. 7evenThirty: the women are just evil and deserve to be taken out. PropJosh: Yeah. So he's a lady killer. smiley: So yeah, yeah. That's his what star keel in the movie? PropJosh: Yeah fourth. I mean I mean if you count the X smiley: yeah, the first one. Yeah. So he killed that first girl, two the wife, right. 7evenThirty: Hm. We gotta count that. smiley: The first girl killed the e ex-best friend and ex-wife, and then the girl on the discreetly. that he met off there. Four people and no, like PropJosh: Yes. Yes. And he's not doing and he's not burning them he's not putting their bodies away or nothing. 7evenThirty: Okay, so he's killed four people. smiley: nothing. And the and he has a detective. 7evenThirty: He's just leaving there. PropJosh: I'm just leaving. smiley: He has the best detective that the the chief officer said, You're the best detective I got. And he's looking for he already knows his full name and has everything he has on him about all these murders. And he's looking for him. 7evenThirty: And still ain't got this motherfucker yet. PropJosh: We can't find them. smiley: And he's in the process of killing people back to back to back to back. And 7evenThirty: Leaving a whole trail. smiley: just a trail of blood. Yeah. He just walked away. Yeah. They were in a PropJosh: Well, I don't know what he did with the first girl 'cause the they don't nobody mentions the first girl. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. smiley: hotel. She probably just still in a hotel. PropJosh: that makes sense then. Okay, well easy kill. smiley: I mean the they didn't the cleaning people didn't find the body, you know what I mean? Like, come on. Yeah, that's what that's what happens. PropJosh: I guess he paid with cash and they didn't know it was Ethan. Probably might be a different name. Yeah. smiley: He went under the name Malcolm. PropJosh: Well, you can't do that twice if he's Yeah, you went under the name Josh. smiley: Wanna name Josh, actually. You want to name Josh. 7evenThirty: He went under the name James's father. smiley: Yep. So so yeah, PropJosh: So the yeah, so the person we always gonna talk about that we you mentioned earlier is this lady. smiley: Right. PropJosh: I forgot her name. I gotta look up her name, but she is in a terrible marriage. smiley: Yep. PropJosh: 'Cause her husband comes home and he's all like on the phone with another woman clearly. He's like smiley: Yeah, yeah. PropJosh: clearly cheating. 7evenThirty: See, my attention was coming back and forth because I do remember this. And yeah, and I and I recognize the guy cause he was on the wrong one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I remember a smiley: You remember a little bit of that? You remember a little of that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. He was in the wrong one. Mm hmm. PropJosh: He was the wrong one. Yeah, he yeah. So 7evenThirty: scene with him treating his woman poorly. Okay. smiley: So you yeah. Yep, that's you remember that part. Yep. 7evenThirty: Okay. smiley: Why was it so hard for you to pay attention, Marcus? 7evenThirty: Partly because it was so drawn out smiley: Yeah. 7evenThirty: and it was like, what what what the fuck are y'all doing with this? smiley: Yeah. 7evenThirty: And so I just partially it was really predictable. smiley: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: and compared to the first one where you smiley: Yeah. 7evenThirty: I think I s I said something we would we were chatting earlier. I was like, d this the this kind of movie to me. I don't know. I'll say I'll save that thought for the final thought. But I'll write my final thought down. But yeah, I mean it's it my smiley: Okay. All right. All right. Yeah. 7evenThirty: final thought kinda will explain why my attention was back and forth on this movie. Okay. smiley: got it. I'll share some of my theories of what I would have liked to see in this movie at as we talk about the conclusion. Yeah, we'll talk about the conclusion 'cause I would 7evenThirty: Yes, please share it. Yes. Okay. PropJosh: Mm-hmm. smiley: like to see different things. 7evenThirty: Yes. smiley: But I mean it was just it was it was the pace was just a little bit like redundant. And they were repeating a few things over and over again. And so I think that's where 7evenThirty: Right. smiley: it was like, okay, like what you got going on. So the second kill. Mm-hmm. PropJosh: I did have the thought I did have the thought in this movie that this should probably be the last one. smiley: Yeah. PropJosh: That's I was kinda thinking that, so sorry, what smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: you were saying though. smiley: No, I was just saying the pace was moving forward and it was like because you got you got three main kind of scen scenes. You got the detective looking for him, you got Ethan killing people, and then you have the side plot, Sierra and her and her family. She has a best friend who she confides in, and a husband. Yeah, PropJosh: Sierra. That was yeah. Yeah, her husband, Shamar. Yeah, her best friend name is London. Yeah. smiley: so they just kind of had that scene, which is not connected directly to anything until about halfway to the movie. PropJosh: All actors that we've seen before, these are all actors we've seen multiple times. smiley: Yeah. So I think it is like 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. yeah, yeah. Absolutely. smiley: it's about fifty seven minutes into the movie, I think, when we see Kamal. 7evenThirty: Thought you were gonna say it's about fifty seven minutes too long. PropJosh: Ha ha ha! smiley: Ha ha ha PropJosh: think this movie is slower because that's why I w had the smiley: no, so he is so he texts, I'm looking back. He t he does send a he sends her a mess. So her friend encourages her to get on that app, I think. And so that's when like he ends up he ends up texting her PropJosh: Yeah, yeah, they have a conversation 'cause like well so what happens is smiley: within 35, no, 40 minutes. So that's when he first texts her. That's before PropJosh: okay, okay. smiley: he killed the other girl. So he is so there is like a little hint of, you know, hey, that this girl's connected to him some kind of way. So that's 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. smiley: a that was decent. But if you're halfway paying attention, then you missed it because it isn't, there's no audio to it. It's just you gotta look. And he's texting the phone. 7evenThirty: Wait, what did I miss? smiley: He texts the girl that is in a in a bad PropJosh: Sierra. smiley: Sierra. He texts her on the discreetly app. And like early on, when she's right 7evenThirty: Okay. Mm-hmm. smiley: after she talks to her friend, her friend's like, Hey, join this app. It's like, Why are you making me join an app to cheat on my husband? It's like, you need to be, you need to have some fun, you know? 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. smiley: and so she ends up getting on the app and then. I think his name is Malcolm on the app or whatever, and he ends up texting her PropJosh: Yeah. smiley: and then that's kinda all we see. They just kinda go back and forth and and so 7evenThirty: Okay. PropJosh: Yes, you explained it. That's what I was gonna explain. smiley: Yeah. Okay. PropJosh: So so Sierra does come out there, you know, after they message each other back and forth, and Sierra actually shows up. smiley: Right. PropJosh: after we have some scenes with her and her husband, and he's an asshole. He's a hardcore cheater. He's the kind of cheater that don't give a shit about her. He's practically gonna fuck a girl in front of her, the way he's acting. smiley: Right. Yeah. Right. And don't and don't care don't care to let her know he don't even like he's not necessarily saying right. But he's not necessarily saying that he's cheating on her, but he's obviously saying I'm I'll do what I want, whatever, you know. That stuff. 7evenThirty: Right. And you better not PropJosh: Right. 7evenThirty: do the same cause the scene I remember was her being like, PropJosh: Yeah, he said that, yep. 7evenThirty: you know, well, I'm gonna go have my fun and if you so shameless about yours, then I'm I oughta be able to do the same thing. Then he like grabbed her up and like, You better not ever fucking cheat on me. Give my pussy away. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. smiley: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was y he does PropJosh: Yep. Yep. That's my pussy. smiley: say that. I think those are I think those are exact words. I think those are exact words. So yeah, this 7evenThirty: Yeah. smiley: explain explain kind of the the moment that they meet 7evenThirty: The T shirt. smiley: in person, Josh. that I think that's I think that's important. That's the most important part of the movie. It's about halfway through the movie. yes, literally. That's PropJosh: it's halfway? wow, it took that long? smiley: why that's why I say it. PropJosh: Yeah, it was you're right, you're right. It was a lot of wow, it took an hour. smiley: They first meet within 59 minutes. They should have 7evenThirty: Too long. smiley: like if this movie, like I would have liked them to meet earlier on. Yeah, like earlier PropJosh: Thirty minutes in or twenty minutes in? smiley: on. As soon as she joined the app, as soon as he joined the app, they should have been one of the first people he met. And then he met another person. Like it should have showed a little bit of that. But I think they I understand why they did it like that. Cause it was kind of like PropJosh: I think they wanted to build up yeah. 7evenThirty: So this smiley: this is after he kills the first girl that he meets on the app. 7evenThirty: Right. smiley: So you kind of think, PropJosh: Obviously, yeah. smiley: maybe he's about to kill her. That's what you kind of think. If you're watching and paying attention. PropJosh: Right. I think what it is we had to get to know Sierra and see that Sierra was actually a really sweet woman, a really good person for a change. smiley: Right. She just so it's showing the behind the scenes of like the character. So everybody's on the app and ain't just like evil, you know, hating their husband. Some are dealing with, you know, actual problems in a marriage. And so she's just trying to find some kind of, you know, community and connection. And so PropJosh: Yeah. smiley: but yeah. When the 7evenThirty: And this is Sierra. Okay. PropJosh: Yep. smiley: party was did they already yeah, yeah, yeah. That that's that happens after this scene. So you did you probably stop watching at this point 'cause it's halfway through. Well maybe you were watching 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. smiley: this. You could have been watching this. PropJosh: No 7evenThirty: I don't I don't remember this part, smiley: But what happens what happens in this scene, Josh? PropJosh: well after they talk a little bit and she's ready, she's like, Yeah, let's go, let's do it. So Ethan takes her upstairs and they they about to fuck. and the I 7evenThirty: Ha ha. PropJosh: I kinda wanna describe it right before it happens, but like why well yeah, yeah, she's get she gets naked. they don't show it though, they just show it from the back, unfortunately. No. But anyway. But anyway. smiley: Josh. PropJosh: they get on the bed and like he reaches for a knife behind the pillow. But then she stops and she's like, I can't do this. And then he let go of the knife and and it's like, Why not? It's like she's I can't, I can't, this is my I can't cheat on my husband. I just can't do it. I'm not I'm I'm not I'm not this. And so she ended leaving. So this is yeah, he grabs the knife. smiley: wasn't this on didn't they do this? Well, didn't they do this on on what's that movie? you know the classic movie in the nineties, the classic one. PropJosh: basic instinct. smiley: Basic instinct. Yeah, that's the one. They did that. That was like she was 7evenThirty: No, I thought she killed the guy though. smiley: Well yeah. No, she took the knife and killed them. That's kinda how it was. Like 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. smiley: they're why they were having sex. That's what I mean. 7evenThirty: Yeah, it was like the first scene. smiley: Like, yeah, she grabs the knife. PropJosh: Yeah, that was the first scene. And then they faked you out and showed it the scene again later and she was smiley: Yeah. PropJosh: about to and didn't that's that's what you're thinking of with basic instinct. 7evenThirty: okay. smiley: Well, I was just remembering 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. smiley: the knife coming from you know, pulling the knife from the bed. But yeah, so she so when she stops she stops and he's like I'm not gonna kill her anymore. 7evenThirty: That's why he decides not to kill her because they're only worth killing if they go through with penetration. smiley: Yep. PropJosh: Well, kinda, but it's more like with the stuff that she was saying, 'cause she was like, I can't do this. I'm only doing this 'cause my husband was trying to cheat on me and stuff and 7evenThirty: That's what I'm saying. And she stopped the penetration from happening. smiley: Mm-hmm. In the heat of the moment. PropJosh: I guess. But he sees he sees that she's a good person, that she's not really wanting to do 7evenThirty: Mm. PropJosh: this. Like she's kinda smiley: So PropJosh: she's kinda doing this out of revenge and and just can't really she can't be as bad as her husband. And so she smiley: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: And that's what PropJosh: leaves. 7evenThirty: show him that she a good woman. smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Right, right. And Ethan's like and so he 7evenThirty: Mm. PropJosh: kinda call you know, he calls for it. So the scene now I want you to pull up, Jason. smiley: Okay. PropJosh: is afterwards was when she talks to her friend London about smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: yes, this part when she said she had to leave. Yes, yes, when she smiley: So we want to hear the conversation of her interpreting the moment? Okay. PropJosh: yes, 'cause Marcus didn't see the scene and this scene made me laugh. 7evenThirty: I remember a little bit of this. smiley: okay. PropJosh: You remember when they first said it? 'Cause they she said it at first. Yeah, we have play it from here. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. smiley: Yeah. PropJosh: Ha. smiley: goodness. He is the strongest, most irresistible. 7evenThirty: man smiley: Yep. PropJosh: Ha ha ha! 7evenThirty: that's funny. PropJosh: Hahaha 7evenThirty: That's funny as hell. smiley: Like how you gonna just leave this man? He was right there ready to do it. Just leave him. How dare you? Yes. PropJosh: Sexy ass man. 7evenThirty: He fine as hell, it's the sexiest nick I ever seen. smiley: Yup. 7evenThirty: Who is this man? smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: I've never seen a man so sexy before. And you left him? smiley: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: That's such animal magnetism. my smiley: Yeah. 7evenThirty: God. smiley: That is definitely a thing that he does often as a writer. PropJosh: I'm so sorry. He definitely does that. 7evenThirty: He does that often. He casts himself as smiley: Yes. 7evenThirty: as that guy all the time. It's hilarious. smiley: As that guy. As that guy. PropJosh: Every time he's be they be people be like the casting director be like, Hey, Mr. Smith, we got Michael B. Jordan right outside. smiley: goodness. man. PropJosh: No, we don't need Michael B. Jordan. smiley: boy. PropJosh: Ha ha ha. 7evenThirty: my god. PropJosh: my gosh. That's why that's 7evenThirty: Woo. PropJosh: why we had to play that scene. I'm sorry. smiley: Yeah. Mm-hmm. So yeah. Well, now we can get to the end. Cause I mean, it's pretty much it's another it's basically another my goodness. 7evenThirty: man, that's funny. We got Lance Gods somebody. PropJosh: We got Michael we got Michael Ely out here. 7evenThirty: Ha ha ha. smiley: Wow. PropJosh: No, I'm not using those guys. 7evenThirty: Snatches glasses off shit is funny. Man, now I s now I understand. PropJosh: So the smiley: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. That was important. This is a so so she ends up 7evenThirty: So irresistible. smiley: going she ends up going back to him and he says to her, you know, you didn't you yeah, you didn't talk. PropJosh: wants to talk. Yeah, you should pause it. you should you spoiled it. smiley: I mean you know it's gonna happen. Yes, yes, PropJosh: I but no describe 'cause we talked about it on the phone. Tell Marcus what happens. smiley: yes. So basically she's like going over to talk and it's like, you know, I'm a good woman 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. smiley: and everything, and then he's like, That's why I I re respect you, you know, you just wanna sleep around, you don't want to do any of that stuff. You know, you're a good woman and I appreciate that. I've been looking for some it's hard to find somebody that actually cares and has morals and values and things like that. That you just, you know, you marry, you wanna you know, want to stay commitment, committed, and that I respect that, you know. a lot 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. smiley: of people don't a lot of people don't do that anymore. Yeah, you know, so she's like, Yeah, that's why that's why I I don't ever want PropJosh: go and cheat on their husbands and you don't do that. smiley: to cheat on my husband. I just wanna be I just wanna be a good woman 'cause I'm a good woman. Yeah, you are a good woman. A good, faithful woman. God fearing, church going, loving. PropJosh: Good, faithful, God fearing, church going woman. smiley: loving, faithful, committed woman. And then the very next scene, PropJosh: Good hearted woman. smiley: the very next 7evenThirty: Was them having sex. smiley: scene is them having sex. It's a it's pretty much, 7evenThirty: A a hard cut to them having sex. smiley: you know, it's like there it is. So I was like, wow, okay. PropJosh: Right, it's like, well, okay, she's not a good woman anymore. smiley: So she yeah. So yeah, 7evenThirty: Right, now she deserves smiley: they they 7evenThirty: to be killed. smiley: Well no, he ac so he doesn't. PropJosh: But he doesn't treat her like that. smiley: So like he that's interesting. So he doesn't he which is true, right? 7evenThirty: Mm. smiley: If based off of his based off of his logic, she actually did cheat. She actually did cheat. 7evenThirty: His own logic. Right. She cheated, now he gotta kill her, right? smiley: So and he know nothing. Mm hmm. No, he fell in love. PropJosh: Right, that's what I thought was gonna happen, but he didn't. It's like he sees he still sees her as a good yeah, he fell in love with her, he sees her as a good woman. I guess it's because he got her to cheat instead of her doing it 7evenThirty: B b w right. PropJosh: on her own. 7evenThirty: Right because because he figured that she was a good woman, now she's good enough for him to have sex with. PropJosh: Yeah. Yep. smiley: Without murder. 7evenThirty: But his call by his call. Yeah. smiley: Yeah. This is probably it. PropJosh: Right, right. 'Cause I didn't think you actually didn't think he was gonna have sex with her. smiley: Is this the scene that you remember, Marcus? Because you probably did. I think you might have seen this. Okay. okay. So the husband is calls 7evenThirty: No, I didn't see this scene. PropJosh: No, I don't think he's yeah. smiley: her calls her home and she got home from you know from doing the stuff with which is stuff that he said earlier. Yep. Yep. 7evenThirty: Mm. smiley: So we see that he does he does his thing and let's let's just skip to the very ending because we're almost done. PropJosh: Well I wanna well keep playing it. Well yeah. Play it when he says yeah, this part. What he just said. Rewind it just smiley: I'm muted. PropJosh: ten seconds. This part, yes. Yeah, yeah, keep playing it, keep yeah. smiley: All right. What? What's he know about that? Course you are. PropJosh: Ha ha. 7evenThirty: Ha ha ha. smiley: He's scrolling there looking for looking for PropJosh: I know. smiley: yeah, he's on there looking for somebody to do something with 'cause he's on discreetly. And then he seeks her. So so yeah, he's obviously no good. Yeah. He 'cause he was on there looking for PropJosh: So that's yeah. That that's what I was yeah, that part. We found her on there. 'Cause I'm on there. He admitted that he's on there. Right, right. Like he and he admitted. smiley: something. So Yeah. 7evenThirty: Ha ha ha. PropJosh: Yeah, then he yep. Then he yep, abuses her. smiley: He does that. He abuses her. So yeah, that's that happens. 7evenThirty: Mm. smiley: So yeah, we're PropJosh: And throws her out the house. smiley: Yeah. PropJosh: Cause she did cheat on him in all fairness. smiley: All fairness. He was on he was on the discreetly app looking to be discreet, obviously, because he had a profile. He was looking and searching. And 7evenThirty: Right. smiley: so it was something that, you know, he'd do or every Saturday night, apparently. And so or every night. So yeah. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah. smiley: So she goes back to Ethan Malcolm. Yeah, PropJosh: Malcolm to Malcolm, yeah. smiley: because she don't know he's Ethan yet. PropJosh: Right. He just goes by Malcolm. smiley: Why did he have to he get why did he have to change his name? 7evenThirty: Yeah, why was that necessary? PropJosh: 'cause it's discreetly. It's discreetly and plus like if they smiley: But he's not married. 7evenThirty: Just to be anon that's just his anonymous name. smiley: Well, he does have he is a well known, but he has a face on a billboards. PropJosh: Well, but he drove far away enough where the people probably wouldn't recognize him. And plus he could say, that's somebody that looked like me you know, that could be the case. Even though you're right. smiley: I guess. goodness. Yeah, whatever. 7evenThirty: I don't know, his face if you put such a handsome face on a billboard, you gonna remember that motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? Everybody in the whole state oughta know who that is. smiley: The most handsome person in the planet. There's only one person that looks like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Everyone in the county will recognize that face. smiley: So, all right. Let's just talk about how it ends. I'm ready for the end now. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. PropJosh: I mean, thousands of women get wet just looking at the sign. 7evenThirty: Just woo. What the the the bridges may become slippery when wet. PropJosh: They gotta put a sign that says slippery when wet right underneath his sign. Right afterward, yeah. 7evenThirty: Yeah, right underneath that billboard. Accidentis? Gotta put the accident sign right next to his. smiley: Wow. Okay. All right. Stop it. Stop it. my goodness, y'all. PropJosh: Okay. 7evenThirty: Yeah, man. smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Yeah. So Sierra goes over to Malcolm, to 7evenThirty: Malcolm, right? PropJosh: Malcolm's house, and tells him what happens and he's takes care of her, she stays there. And that's where the movie is drawn out again because it's a lot of scenes of them just being a couple. 7evenThirty: Like a like smiley: Yeah. 7evenThirty: montages. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a montage of them just while yeah. smiley: Mm. Yeah, so he's just there 'cause this that's a hour and fifteen minutes into when he 7evenThirty: Do they play like AI music and stuff in between the montage? 'Cause they love doing that on these movies. smiley: Mm. PropJosh: I think they do, yeah. Yeah, I know, right? smiley: Yep. So there's a I think he's talked to the husband at one point. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah, 'cause the husband does call her phone. Yeah, yeah, 'cause she smiley: Yeah. PropJosh: goes to bed that night and the husband calls her phone and and and Ethan answers the phone and was like and smiley: Yeah. PropJosh: they you know and he kinda like talks to or whatever, like, Hey, you ain't g you know, she's with me, nigga, and all that stuff, you know. Yeah, yeah, pretty much. 7evenThirty: Yeah, piss and contest. Yeah. smiley: Mm-hmm. Yep. So the the detective is searching, asking everybody questions. He goes to the office. He was like he asks James about what's happening with Ethan. He's a murderer. Wait, no way. You know? 7evenThirty: Yeah. smiley: they have a family PropJosh: yeah, that's right. So this time 'cause it's it's almost a repeat of the scenes earlier with the detective, except this time the detective mentions that we found two dead bodies 7evenThirty: Mm. PropJosh: and it was of Ethan's ex wife and ex best friend. And that's what James reacts like, Yeah. And it smiley: Right, so I actually did find him. no. So PropJosh: and he also 7evenThirty: Okay. PropJosh: says this to Matthew as well. And and Matthew's smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: like, you know, Matthew 'cause Matthew doesn't know Matt doesn't know anything. smiley: So I think the only the only twist in this movie, because there's not really a surprise at all. I think the only twist 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. smiley: in the movie happens when you see the husband. I'll, you know, I'll PropJosh: well before you get to that, before you get to that, there's a reason. Yeah, before you get 7evenThirty: Mm-mm. PropJosh: to that. So what happens is Sierra goes to Ethan and says, I need to leave. I and she's all crying and serious and stuff. He's What's wrong? He's like, you know, she's like, it's getting worse. Like my husband is threatening to kill me. Like, if I don't go back to him now, he smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: will kill me. He's saying he's going to kill me. And Ethan's like, No, don't worry about it. Don't, you know, don't, you know, I'll I'll, you know, take care of things and stuff like that. smiley: I'll help you get your stuff. PropJosh: Yeah, I'll get your stuff that we you know, cause she yeah, 'cause 'cause the husband threw out Sierra's clothes out in the yard and stuff like that. And like he's getting extra crazy 'cause she's been gone for like two weeks at this point. Like there's been some time going by. smiley: Mm-hmm. Yes. PropJosh: And so then you can get to the surprise. smiley: It's the only one surprise and it wasn't a big it wasn't a big surprise. It was like, 7evenThirty: Which is what? smiley: no, what? I can't believe it. So the husband is, you know, at the house PropJosh: Yeah, that's when she was crying about yeah. 7evenThirty: Mm. smiley: and he ends up, you know, he got his new baby thing coming through. He's like, Yeah, baby good, come through. And look who it is, it's the best friend the whole time. And so they've been together the whole time. Surprise. 7evenThirty: Okay. smiley: Yep. Yep. So it wasn't a surprise. Like it was like it was one of those things that was like, yeah. Like when I saw I was like, of course she's with him. Like who else who else will he be with? That's why I f I told PropJosh: If you've watched a Tubi movie Yeah that's right on time. I know, I know. I wasn't I didn't gasp. I was like, well, yeah. makes 7evenThirty: Right. smiley: I think I told you Mark that it wasn't any twist. But I was like, yeah, there is a sub I 7evenThirty: Right. smiley: forgot about that one. There that's the one. yeah, that was that. PropJosh: It would be more surprised if it was like a dude, if it was like if it was Ethan's best friend Matt or something. smiley: That would have been that would have been a surprise. man, but yeah, so PropJosh: That would have been a surprise. smiley: Ethan's at the door and he's he's getting the stuff. And so, you know, this is gonna where PropJosh: How you know it was Ethan at the door? smiley: we know. PropJosh: yeah, and he sprays him. yeah, yeah. That spray. What was that spray, Jason? Because he sprays these people and they immediately f smiley: Yeah, he's Yep. I think it was like pepper spray or something. PropJosh: pepper spray? Don't do what they were doing. He sprayed these people and they were like gone, 7evenThirty: Ha ha ha. PropJosh: and that was it. It's like he sprayed right. It was like it was like knockout juice with the spray. You gonna show it? Yeah. smiley: Yeah, they were out with light bulb. Yep. Yeah, it was knockout juice. That's what it was. Yeah, I'm trying to get to the part. So Marcus can see it. Here it is. But yeah, that's about PropJosh: 'Cause I think he yeah. You can unmute it. smiley: I mean, we're about 30 minutes left for the movie, so he's about to do his classic, you know, what he's gonna have. Yep. So so who he's gonna tie? So he immediately sprays it knocks them out. PropJosh: Right, his classic good man stuff, yeah. Of course. look, the one spray that's all he did. One spray 7evenThirty: Type people up and thing. PropJosh: with one spray. One spritz. That smiley: One little spritz. It's probably a pepper spray or mace or something. PropJosh: is not pepper spray. Cause he knocks him out. 7evenThirty: Yeah, pepper spray, he would have been coughing himself. PropJosh: Right. This is not and dude's the same to her. It's yeah, it's magic juice. He so there's a scene there's a smiley: Mm-hmm. That's a magic juice. 7evenThirty: What kinda what kind of spray is it? PropJosh: deleted scene where he goes to Doctor Strange's place, apparently. 7evenThirty: Right. PropJosh: Doctor Stranjures up this potion. I know, right? smiley: Well we already know he has super strength. So he has super strength, he has magic potion, and he's the fairest maid of them of of them all, you know 7evenThirty: Yeah. PropJosh: Maybe that's what the other magic juice did. It made a all the women see him. smiley: made everybody see him differently. It was the fairest of them all. So yeah. PropJosh: As the 7evenThirty: Ha ha ha. smiley: so he does a crazy thing of like, I got a surprise for you. I'm gonna show you something. And she reacts as interesting. Like she sees that it's the husband and he was like, I found, I found, I found your husband and you know, I found the person he was sleeping with. Yeah. He didn't know, he didn't know that was he didn't know it was a best friend. He just said, I just found some random girl PropJosh: And some floosy that he was about to fuck. That's clearly your husband, Shamar. Yeah. You're right. He don't know much about her best friend at all. smiley: And so she's like, that's my best friend. What? my goodness. And so she's ready to beat them all up, you know, and they still knocked out. PropJosh: Desperate. Yep. Dun dun dun and she starts hitting yeah, attacking. But she's still knocked out from the knockout juice. That's why I was like pepper spray smiley: Yep. So so yeah. PropJosh: doesn't do that. They're they and they are knocked out for hours, by the way. They don't wake up till much later. smiley: Yeah, enough to g him to individually carry them, 'cause he's super strong. So he individually carried You know. 7evenThirty: Right, dead weight. Just carrying their dead weight, including this other PropJosh: Ha ha ha. 7evenThirty: guy who's taller than him. smiley: Yep. So but he has superpower. We just PropJosh: Right. I forgot about that. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. smiley: acknowledge that as the case because that's the only thing that makes sense. We know that from the first movie. So PropJosh: Yes. smiley: all right. The end. So yes, 7evenThirty: Hm. Question mark, question mark? smiley: yes. So just tell us how it ends, Josh. Well I'm gonna go through every detail. PropJosh: but yeah, she she well sh No, we don't, definitely not. But he basically says, I you know, wrapped I wrapped this up just for you. I did this for you. And she's like, No, that's not, this is crazy. You're crazy. He's like, I'm not crazy, I'm not crazy. And then he I think he used a super 7evenThirty: Goes crazy. PropJosh: yeah, of course he goes crazy. He's in the midst of being crazy. So he used the smiley: Yeah. He don't like to be called crazy. PropJosh: the knockout juice on her as well. smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: And then yeah, she'll be tied up. yeah, Malcolm, get off me. yeah, this is I like this part. smiley: What do you like about it? PropJosh: you'll see. We he says something that's his catchphrase. Right before he sp this part. smiley: This is a good man. What? PropJosh: Yeah it's I forgot he monologues. smiley: What's the what's the what's the PropJosh: there it is. This this part. This is what he says, this part. 'Cause he said that to the 'cause he said Super strong, I know. smiley: Ethan yeah, yeah, that's right. That's that makes sense. It's a magic potion. It's a magic potion. 7evenThirty: Wow, that spray is very magical. smiley: Yeah. And listen, we don't got we can spend, you PropJosh: It's one little s smiley: know, an hour and a half talking about a bunch of other stuff, but we don't need to spend a second explaining what that spray is. PropJosh: Ha ha ha. 7evenThirty: Ha ha ha. smiley: We got we got a time crunch to to deal with it. So we don't gotta PropJosh: Yeah. smiley: spend an extra second. It's not only worried about it. Don't ask questions. It it he sprays PropJosh: So smiley: and people and they knocked out. End of story. So 7evenThirty: More questions you ask, the less sense it'll make. PropJosh: Right. So for this part, so the scene that we skipped, well, I kind of mentioned a little bit where the detective visits his best friend and tells him about the two dead bodies and stuff. After the detective leaves, Matt he calls Ethan. He's been trying to reach Ethan and haven't yeah, well that's his brother James. but he'll answer he'll answer the phone for James. Yeah, J smiley: It's James the brother and Matt's the 7evenThirty: Yes. PropJosh: Matt's the best friend. smiley: Okay. PropJosh: So but he doesn't answer the phone for Matt. So because he kept going to voicemail and Matt's like, Ethan, I'm coming out there, you know. I I know w if you are where you are think where I think you are, I'm gonna come out there. So that's what his best friend says. Right, right. Cause smiley: 'Cause he knows where it is. Yeah, he knows where he's at. PropJosh: only the brother and the best friend know where Ethan smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: is at the moment. But yeah, the brother knows what's going on. But he hears London moan moaning in the background while he after he called him. That's what James hears or whatever. Yeah, smiley: The brother does. Mm-hmm. PropJosh: yeah, brother. And so he's like, What's going on? So he's So James is contemplating about calling the police because the detective kind of gave a really convincing argument like, Hey, your brother's the one that's in trouble, not you. But if you are helping him, smiley: complicit or telling yeah. PropJosh: yeah, we will y this might not be so good for you, but if you smiley: And the brother the brother is a actual good man. He has a wife and kids. They show the scene of him playing with his children in the backgrounds like, Daddy, come back and play with us. I'll be back there, children. So he actually 7evenThirty: Hmm. smiley: has a normal family. And so he has to figure something PropJosh: Yeah, so he's smiley: out. PropJosh: he actually got something to lose. So smiley: Yeah. PropJosh: yeah, he doesn't wanna so he's complain you know, but and he does you know, like yeah, he's a good person. He knows Ethan is up to no good. So he's like, I got you know, I don't know what to do. So he's contemplating calling the police. And then we don't see the brother smiley: So I was a little dis PropJosh: for a while. smiley: I was a little disappointed that the torture scene wasn't he didn't really like, you know, it wasn't they didn't really get tortured. 7evenThirty: Jason was disappointed that the torture scene wasn't torturous enough. smiley: It's it was like what what did he do? He's like he just he killed one person at first and you know, think he ends up doing something with a bat 'cause he tries to do something and nothing that happens there, right? PropJosh: Well, it's because they're trying to redo the first movie and it gets muddled every time 'cause you can't doing it the first time is catching lightning in a bottle. And then when you try to smiley: Yeah. PropJosh: mimic it, it's not it's gonna be as good. It's not gonna be the same. So yeah. smiley: No. That's what I was thinking that exactly. It's like that I feel like they were doing it's got the same beats, but it kinda it wasn't it wasn't a it wasn't a any twist of his of his crazy. He was crazy the whole movie. And so PropJosh: Right. 'Cause like the first movie, he literally walked in on on R and and Chaos fucking 7evenThirty: Right. PropJosh: in the midst in the middle of fucking. So yeah, that's why that that's what made that movie crazy. Yeah. smiley: Yeah. Yep. He clicks. Yeah, he's like, my goodness, he's crazy now. So like and that's where he clicked. PropJosh: So yeah, yeah, so yeah. He tried to tell his best friend to leave and his best friend didn't leave and then he walked in and then knocked him up knocked him out with a bat. 'Cause he ran out of magic juice. Couldn't use the knockout juice. smiley: He has now he has to deal with him. So so yeah. Right. So now he has four people he has to deal with. So long story short, he ends up getting somebody with a bat. He tries to get somebody to kill somebody else, and he ends up killing somebody with a bat. Nobody wants to kill each other. He ends up killing one person at a time. PropJosh: Well, this is what happened. You you definitely So this is what happened. I'm not gonna go into detail, 7evenThirty: What? PropJosh: but basically he's you know doing his monologue thing with all four people and he's like, Who should I kill first? And then he he you know, of course the best friend he kills the best not his best friend, he kills Sierra's best friend with a bat to to death or whatever. Then he says, like, Okay, the only other guilty person here is the husband. So Sierra, I'm not gonna kill you, but I'm gonna have you watch as my best friend kills your husband. So he unties Matt and is like, Matt, you know, and Matt and Matt's No, I don't want to do this, I don't want to do this. And he's Well, Matt, the only way you're gonna get out of here alive is if you do that. And so he unties Matt and has a knife for him, and so he can slice the throat of the husband. But Matt, of course, doesn't do that. He's a good person. So he actually tries to attack Ethan, but Ethan overpowers him. And Ethan s Right, there's no stopping Ethan. And so so Ethan slices his best friend's throat. smiley: Ethan is super strong. He's he's super strong, got agility. Yeah, so he's got super strength, super agility, quick we f reflexes, you 7evenThirty: Of course. Cause there's no stopping Ethan. Super intelligence. smiley: know. So yeah. So he's got quick reflexes and everything. Yeah, that's the only it's PropJosh: Which is a pretty graphic death scene for his best friend. 'Cause smiley: definitely the only the most graphic scene of all of them, actually. He probably he probably said it he probably said that PropJosh: Yeah, when he kills his best friend, 'cause when he kills l the girl, London, smiley: he wanted to die like that. He probably was like, you what, if you gonna take me out Let let me take me out with some with some graphics. PropJosh: Right. 'Cause with with the girl with 7evenThirty: You fit a play? PropJosh: with the best friend, he just yeah, we don't see her. Yeah, yeah, when he kills Yeah, and they don't smiley: The part where he Yeah, they just he just beat her with a bat. He beats her with a bat. 7evenThirty: Where he kills the best friend. PropJosh: even show her. Yeah. smiley: They don't even show her face or nothing. He just kinda blooded the tip of the bat. PropJosh: Yeah, just see blood on the bat. So yeah, you had to Yeah, so this yeah. smiley: So yeah, here it is. PropJosh: Yeah, you gotta see him actually fight 7evenThirty: Mm. smiley: It's a scapel. 7evenThirty: How did he get a scalp? smiley: He he that's one of his one of his torture you PropJosh: Ha ha ha ha. smiley: know, one of his torture devices. You see the table full of torture devices? 7evenThirty: okay. smiley: You got the power spray, the scissors, the the mallet, the gun, the PropJosh: Yeah. smiley: knife, duct tape, another knife. Another power spray, I think. 7evenThirty: I don't think we can play all this sound. PropJosh: Matt's bigger than him, right? smiley: Yeah. PropJosh: See? Can't stop powerful eat them. Yeah. 7evenThirty: He hit him one time and he's j he's just knocked out. He's just too strong. smiley: You saw how quick he was with the agility. 7evenThirty: No power. No overpower smiley: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: in here. PropJosh: and he blames Sierra for this. He's like, You did this, you did this and he kills his best friend. smiley: Which is stupid. His best friend. PropJosh: That they even know he was like that. smiley: Mm mm. Until today. See, that's the most graphic death scene of all movies. I feel like he definitely was like, Y'all, I've been in this movie. I need to go out like for real. Like, I ain't trying to, you know, like like don't I need you to see it. You know what I mean? Like for real. Like don't PropJosh: Right, yeah. Hey right, hey, if I was in a movie series like that, I'd be like, hey, kill me good. Like I wanna be like dead dead. 7evenThirty: Ha ha ha smiley: be don't be just be pull me off camera. Like show my body. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm ready to do this thing. So that was actually pretty good. I like PropJosh: Right. And then he just simply gets a gun and shoots the husband like twice. smiley: Yeah. PropJosh: And then he's ready to kill Sierra, but she she she basically was like, No, no, Ethan, it's fine. It's just me and you now. I'm gonna do whatever you say. I'm with you. I'm with you, baby. smiley: Yeah. PropJosh: It's it's me and you together. And Ethan's smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: like, Okay, he believes her. But smiley: Un ties her. PropJosh: yeah, he unties her and then she knees him in the balls. smiley: She runs. Yep. 7evenThirty: Okay. PropJosh: As she runs off. smiley: Yeah. PropJosh: And of course, like classic horror movie trope, she falls when she's running away. 7evenThirty: He ki he catches smiley: Files. 7evenThirty: up with her immediately 'cause he can teleport also. Yeah, the Jason smiley: Right. He has teleportation. PropJosh: Yeah, he can also teleport. You know, he 7evenThirty: like he got a Jason Voorhees smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Voorhees 7evenThirty: teleportation pal. PropJosh: Yep, he does. smiley: I always wonder like, what if the and we talked about this before? What if the villain actually gets what he wants? You know, like what if what if I'm talking 7evenThirty: Well this villain does get what he wants. smiley: about what if the girl actually said, Yeah, let's be with I'm gonna be with you together and then and then and he kissed and they actually end up being together. 7evenThirty: And they actually just become a couple like that. smiley: Yeah. PropJosh: That does happen in some horror movies. I can name a few. I can name a few that actually does happen. Saw, the one of the his victims becomes his like yeah. smiley: So he has enough time to wow over, grab a knife, and while she's running, she's been running full speed for the last hour. no, she's she decided to stop and PropJosh: Yeah, and she's hiding and stuff. smiley: hide. PropJosh: Well, she's tired. She she's just running around in his backyard. Meanwhile, James is on his way, he's calling the police and stuff, so smiley: he has a a back that's the country, so she ain't got nowhere to go. I got it. PropJosh: Yeah, yeah. smiley: So this is the ending. This is the last so describe what happens, Josh. PropJosh: Well, he grabs her again and she runs and she falls again or whatever, 'cause that got on my nerves. Like, stop falling. But you know, they have to. And then he's like monologuing again. It's like we could have been happy together and stuff. He has a knife and about to sh kill her, stab her, and then he gets shot from the back. Who shot him? Who shot him? We don't smiley: We don't know. We don't know. PropJosh: know who shot him. Who could have been? 7evenThirty: Could his brother have shot him? smiley: We'll see. PropJosh: We'll see. smiley: Maybe was it was it Matthew? Yep, James. PropJosh: turns around etu brute. His brother smiley: That's what he's looking like. He like, what? Why would you shoot me? You my brother. 7evenThirty: Mm. PropJosh: Yeah. smiley: You the only one that cared about me. PropJosh: I I I do like the character James. He's probably my favorite character in the movie because he actually reacts like a smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: real person. Because he's actually really upset that he had to shoot his own brother and he's like crying over him for real. Like, but you know, Ethan kind of talks to himself, I'm glad it was you. Like, I'm glad you the one that stopped me and stuff. And then he kind of jokes with him and said, Mom's gonna be real mad at you, and then he dies. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. smiley: That's exactly what he says. And laughs. Mob's gonna be real PropJosh: Yeah, he does. smiley: bad at you. Ha ha ha ha. PropJosh: James, I'm glad it was you. smiley: goodness. 7evenThirty: Wow. smiley: The end. PropJosh: Yeah. Then he sings to him. Something tells me. smiley: That's that's the background music. But yeah, he does feel the pain 7evenThirty: He really does. He really does. smiley: of of the emotions. I think that's the best way. I mean, we I think like you said, you knew it was gonna PropJosh: I forgot. smiley: end. We knew it was gonna end. And so it's kinda like in order for it not to be drawn out, I think the best way to do is him to have his just dessert. And so what it she's angry. And just PropJosh: Yeah, she goes up and finishes up the job. smiley: But yeah. So just to make sure he's dead. But yeah. the end, right? PropJosh: Not the end yet. The cops show up and they're 7evenThirty: Mm. PropJosh: at the you know, it's nighttime 'cause it's always the cop no, 'cause we got 'cause I got smiley: Deal not over? PropJosh: 'cause we gotta show Marcus the very last shot. 'Cause the very last shot maybe yell at the screen. The very The very last shot maybe smiley: goodness. We hear. We hear at this point. We hear. We hear. 7evenThirty: Yeah, but might as well. Might as well. PropJosh: yell at the T V. smiley: So They do the flashback of all the times he didn't kill people. PropJosh: Yeah, all the his all his murder sprees and stuff. Except for her. smiley: All the murders that he did. Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: That's not all of though. PropJosh: Yeah, Fancy Jones actually got away. smiley: She didn't 7evenThirty: yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Fancy Jones fine ass was smart as hell. PropJosh: Yeah, she saw he smiley: She didn't die. PropJosh: was crazy and he and she left and she lived. She's the only woman that he dated other than Sierra. smiley: Mm-hmm. She was the only survivor. Yeah. She knew. Yep, Sierra she was alive, so PropJosh: So yeah, they talk about they was like, There's smiley: So yeah. What do you want to talk about? PropJosh: a bunch of dead bodies in the house. Can you tell us what happened? And yeah, the detectives like, No, let me handle 7evenThirty: yeah, this detector. PropJosh: this. Let me handle it. James, look, man. Look, brother, look, man. I'm sorry, man. 7evenThirty: Ha ha. PropJosh: Who look, brother. What happened, brother? I'm I'm I'll talk to you earlier in the movie. What happened, man? He said, I don't know, man. My brother 7evenThirty: In the movie. PropJosh: de My All I know is my brother's dead. smiley: All I know is my brother's dead. PropJosh: Yeah, this part. So yeah, you can unmute this part and they show a big close up on Sierra. smiley: I mean she's not saying that. PropJosh: Yeah, but still. 7evenThirty: What? PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: What the hell was that? PropJosh: She smiled like 7evenThirty: Like, why? PropJosh: 'Cause that that's the movie hinting that now she's gonna be a serial killer. 7evenThirty: Are you you think so? PropJosh: That's what they were trying to do. That's why smiley: That's what it seemed like. PropJosh: she smiled. That's why she smiled randomly and she's all upset that she smiles like now it's my turn so they can have a spin-off series called A Good Woman. smiley: They may do that. 7evenThirty: you think so? First off, this movie PropJosh: That's what the that's w that's why I yelled at the T V. smiley: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: is ass. This movie is bad. PropJosh: Ha ha ha. smiley: Ha ha ha. 7evenThirty: It is trash. It is It is a terrible movie. On all fronts. smiley: Yeah. Mm-hmm. PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: Yeah. I mean it's it's it's no redeeming it. PropJosh: Which is weird because y'all gave cause we gave it's weird because we gave the second movie a sequel. smiley: The second one 7evenThirty: Did we? smiley: was a sequel. We PropJosh: Yeah. smiley: wanted more because I mean 7evenThirty: Remind me what happened in the second one for for me did I give it a sequel? PropJosh: Yeah. We all did. It was like we all gave it a sequel. smiley: We all did. We wanted him to do more of this stuff because he crazy. But like this is what I'm t 7evenThirty: I'm sorry, smiley: I'm gonna tell you what what should have happened because I'm like, I wanted a movie that wasn't just a carbon copy of the things that was drawn 7evenThirty: Thank you. Right. smiley: up, but couldn't it couldn't be a carbon copy because he was already crazy and he wasn't trying 7evenThirty: Right. smiley: to be not crazy. Cause I think the second one he was actually trying to not be crazy. He was actually trying to have a relationship, but he ended up snapping again. PropJosh: Yeah, smiley: So it's like this PropJosh: yeah. smiley: one, he didn't he w he snapped it the first five seconds of the movie. He was already snapped. So it wasn't like he was trying to be a good man. He was just fully PropJosh: That's what it was, yeah. He was fully yeah. smiley: so if you're gonna go in that direction, which is fine, right? If you want to do that full, full fledged vigilante, I think that I would have liked more vigilanteism, you know, and 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. smiley: make him more of a serial killer that PropJosh: Mm-hmm. smiley: was this is Jason Lawyer. he does not agree with idiot. He does not agree with actual serial killer. But I I had a thought. I was thinking like, what if he ended up finding 7evenThirty: But tell about your your theory though, J Jason. Well not your theory, but like your PropJosh: Ha ha ha. 7evenThirty: idea. smiley: Yeah, I thought that would have been good. Like if he was on his vigilanteism and he ends up meeting a girl and he ends up being a good she he ends up thinking she's a good woman, but it turns out that she actually already snapped and she's actually has her own vendetta that 7evenThirty: The table's turn. smiley: she's killing and she ends up can' kidnapping him and having him in a basement, you know? So that would have been if she had and she's even crazier than he is, that would have been 7evenThirty: Right, right, right. That would've been real good. Right. smiley: interesting. And that's kind of what Josh mentioned. That was what's the girl that does that? Please does that. She does that. So that would have been PropJosh: That was please, please. And I said that 7evenThirty: Please. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Please. PropJosh: when you I said that while you were saying that, they could 7evenThirty: I mean, they could have done a crossover. PropJosh: have that's what I was saying to Jason. Yep, that's what I said. They could literally had a crossover. smiley: That's exactly what y'all said. 7evenThirty: They could have had him meet they could have had him meet that bitch. Right, they could have had him meet her. And then And she out crazing him. smiley: That would have been if she was on a discreetly app and they both was vigilantes trying to find people. Ooh. That would have been interesting. PropJosh: Be because in the the the girl in pleas is a better character than Ethan in this movie because she's actually succeeding in what she's doing and doing a good job of it. And she's not just killing, she's torturing these guys. She keeps these guys in a basement for most of the movie. smiley: That would have been more interesting too. Yeah. Because I think that's what I was 7evenThirty: Yeah. smiley: also disappointed in the torture. Not that I mean, you know, it's no one was harmed for real. And I don't I'm not, you know this is this is this is this is Jason's 7evenThirty: Yeah. PropJosh: Yes, because that's how they film movies nowadays. They actually torture people for real. smiley: lawyer. He doesn't want people to be harmed. But I mean PropJosh: Mm-hmm. smiley: when I'm watching the tubi movie, I want to see the stuff. I want to see the gore. I want to see the the you know what I mean? Like it's a movie that I want to introduce so like all they show was a bloody bat. You know what I mean? And it's like you know, 7evenThirty: Yeah. Yep. smiley: that was kinda like anti commectant for me. That's all. PropJosh: Well, if I could do redo my ratings for the other movies, the first one is still a sequel. Second one is more of a replay, and this one's do over. That's how I would rank these movies. 7evenThirty: Can I can I redo my ratings? PropJosh: Yep, go ahead. smiley: All right. 7evenThirty: The first one is a wait, what we got? We got trash duo. What what smiley: Replay. Replaying sequel. PropJosh: Replay. 7evenThirty: the first one is a replay. The second PropJosh: Didn't really? 7evenThirty: one the second one I don't need a second or a third. 'Cause when I think about the second one, I don't remember the second one that much. I just remember he was tying up some more people in the basement. So, which tells me that for me to enjoy it as much as I did at the time. I was either really under the influence or something. smiley: Well. PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: Because like my like d to Josh point earlier, you got lightning in a bottle on the first one. smiley: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: So the first one could have just been Just like that. You know what I'm saying? It could have been, i if you're gonna do a second one, the second one should have been what Jason just proposed. You see what I'm saying? The second smiley: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: one should have been, you know, he's he's he's on this app now, he he's crazy, he's on this app, and then he meets somebody even crazier than him. PropJosh: But the second one was a build of basically the second one was the bridge of him be turning crazy, going from I killed a few people to I'm smiley: But he snapped in the first one. So he was like you were trying to see that he was trying to be normal. But he already snapped 'cause he's but he didn't kill them. Who did he kill in the first one? 7evenThirty: Right, he's already snapped in the first one. He killed everybody in the first PropJosh: Yeah, he killed his fiance and chaos and chaos's wife and chaos's son. smiley: Fiance, that's what is fiance chaos. Yeah. Yeah. 7evenThirty: And chaos. Yeah. smiley: Mm-hmm. That's right. 7evenThirty: So it's like you can't really after he done did all the shit he did in the first movie, you can't really take a character like that and redeem him. You see what I'm saying? Like you can't, he's already too, he's a psycho. You know what I'm saying? So instead of right, that's right, he killed three people. smiley: Right. Try to redeem. Yeah, it's like we don't believe that. You crazy. You killed a child. You killed a kid that was not about his own business. PropJosh: So he's already yeah, he's already crazy. Yeah. 7evenThirty: And so shit. smiley: Ha ha. 7evenThirty: He killed like four people. He killed he killed the his fiance. He killed chaos. He killed the kid and the mama, right? You can't redeem nobody like that. You can't redeem it. So does PropJosh: Right. So yeah, he killed four people. He killed four people in the second movie too. So yeah, four in the first movie, four in the smiley: That's right. That's right. PropJosh: second movie, and more in this movie. He killed way more in this one. 7evenThirty: That's why my point is you can't have a trilogy out of this shit. You you part two can't be, in my opinion, Kamal Smith. Part two is like now you're trying to convince me that he's honestly trying to be a good person now. Put all that murder behind him. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you might as well have gone in a direction that. smiley: Yeah. 7evenThirty: I feel like it might as well have gone in the d in the direction that it went on this movie, where no, I'm still crazy. I'm just going smiley: Right, just straight crazy. Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: all out and I'm a vigilante. But then like smiley: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: like Jason said, now he done ran into the chick from please or somebody somebody way crazier than him. And then he ends up smiley: A crazier. Yeah. Yeah, somebody like that. Yeah, crazier than him, yeah. PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: and then she ends up getting him, and then at the end she looks at the camera and smiles. smiley: Mm-hmm. That would have been interesting. PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: You see what I'm saying? And then that takes us into please part two or whatever. I think it smiley: Mm-hmm. Yep. PropJosh: Mm. 7evenThirty: already is a pleased part two or something, but I don't know. Yeah, may it could be. But PropJosh: is there? 'Cause I wanna see it. I don't think there is. We would heard about it. smiley: I don't know. Yeah. 7evenThirty: that could have led us in, you know what I'm saying? Like, 'cause she's smiley: Mm-hmm. I agree. 7evenThirty: I don't know, she's a more interesting character than Ethan to me. smiley: Yeah. Yep. Yep. So that's I mean, I don't have I don't I don't remember my rating. I don't really care to adjust it, but I'm just like this movie was Yeah, PropJosh: You said sequel as well. smiley: but I mean, you know, I want it I want it better for this. And so I watched it, I pulled the algorithm up, we watched it, we talking about it, we watch it again. So I mean, like it's getting its views, listen to 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. smiley: this, you check it out as you can, fast forward the parts you don't need to watch, you wanna watch, listen to our podcast, you know, it's fine. It's a movie. congratulations on dropping another one. You know what I'm saying? Like do your thing. So 7evenThirty: You know, you you know, you know what it is though? Just one more thought before we wrap it up. You know what I think separates this universe from, say, like the adopted universe, where we got these motherfuckers escaping the police and getting, you know, escaping from being you'd have been shot smiley: Yeah. PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: with a gunshot wound, but smiley: Yeah, yeah. 7evenThirty: somehow you made it out the building, can't nobody find your big ass. You smiley: Yeah, yeah. 7evenThirty: know what I'm saying? PropJosh: Ha ha ha. 7evenThirty: What I think separates those two universted universe doesn't take itself seriously at a at all. It knows it's ridiculous and campy, and it knows that there's no logical fucking explanation of why these kids should still be alive or why this dude should have been escaped smiley: Yeah. 7evenThirty: with a gunshot wound to the heart. smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: It was a 7evenThirty: You see what PropJosh: ch it was like the shoulder. That's how he got away with it. 7evenThirty: I'm saying? Close enough. Close enough. smiley: That was hard. That was hard. It's a bulletproof heart. 7evenThirty: And the thing is, it's cartoony from the beginning. You see what I'm saying? smiley: Mm-hmm. Yeah. PropJosh: Yeah. 7evenThirty: Whereas this universe really tries to take itself seriously. And then it's like, smiley: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: it just keeps going. And it's like, this that's ridiculous. You know, like it it it it it isn't the same type of Ridiculous. It doesn't I don't know, it don't have the same effect. smiley: That's true. PropJosh: Well, I had fun. I like these movies. They were fun for me. I mean, I admit it should've I admit smiley: Well, we're glad you had fun. it's on there. We talked about it. PropJosh: it should have been a little bit s shorter. It was drawn out, but I still had fun. 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. smiley: Glad you enjoyed it. Mark, do you regret not watching it? 7evenThirty: No PropJosh: Maybe you would enjoyed it more if you watched it. I don't know. I don't know. smiley: We feel like we smelled it. No, you've watched enough. 7evenThirty: But I mean, you know what though? I'm yeah, I watched I tried twice to finish it. And it just didn't smiley: Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: it didn't it didn't get me there fast enough, I tell you that much. Pause. It it didn't get me there fast enough. smiley: Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. Mm-hmm. 7evenThirty: because it was it was kind of drawn out. That's another difference between this and the and the whatcha call, they just get to the point faster, I think. smiley: Yeah. 7evenThirty: You know what I'm saying? PropJosh: Yeah, and those movies are shorter. Anytime I see a two be movie that's two hours, I'm like, Mm, they don't need to be two hours. You can do 7evenThirty: Right, much shorter. Two hours there smiley: we have. 7evenThirty: ain't nail tube movie that need to be two hours. I have yet to see one to be movie that that was two hours smiley: Right. An hour an hour and thirty 7evenThirty: that needed to be. smiley: no, hour ten minutes is probably the max that y'all need to be. PropJosh: Well, I'll say the max. 7evenThirty: Now PropJosh: I would say hour and thirty. Hour thirty would be the max. Yeah. 7evenThirty: ten, I would say an hour thirty five minutes. Yeah. Hour thirty, smiley: Hour thirty 7evenThirty: thirty five minutes. Yep. That's a good movie. Cause an hour ten is like you can't really do no. Yeah, hour fifteen, smiley: could be the max. But I mean a hour hour fifteen is a good solid Hour fifteen though is good. Hour fifteen is good though. Like that's a good enough. PropJosh: yeah, fifteen is yeah, that's a good Yeah, that that's real good. 7evenThirty: hour thirty, something like that. Right. That's what she said. PropJosh: Get in, get out. You know. It's that's simple, smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: but you don't need all that. Yep. Do you have your final thought though? You said you had your final thought earlier in smiley: Did you write? PropJosh: the episode. okay. 7evenThirty: That was my final thought. You just can't catch lightning smiley: okay. 7evenThirty: in a bottle twice, you know. It's it's the same, smiley: Mm. Yeah, that's good. 7evenThirty: it's the same thing. It's the Anchorman effect. You know what I'm saying? You can't do it twice. smiley: Hmm. Yeah. 7evenThirty: First one was really good though. like that was our tubi movie smiley: Mm-hmm. PropJosh: What about the movie 7evenThirty: of the year when the first one came out, wasn't it? Wasn't that like the top one of like twenty twenty three or PropJosh: I think it was, yeah. Yeah, it was. smiley: good man. I get see, I get 7evenThirty: whatever? PropJosh: Yeah, it was. It was. smiley: I do get a good man and the wrong one. Like I know I think I like the wrong 7evenThirty: A little bit confused. smiley: run better because that was the the way that you kind of like you don't know until he ends up being abusive. Like he's like, what? Like that's Nap. 7evenThirty: Yeah. It's a whole different movie. PropJosh: I don't know, man. The wrong one was all right, no, no, no, no, no. Let me stop you for a sec. Cause the wrong one is fucking smiley: You think the wild one wasn't better? PropJosh: ridiculous. No, I think the good man was better because smiley: That's why I loved it. PropJosh: it the first one was better because 7evenThirty: Good man was better. PropJosh: cause he snapped and it's like it because it started off as like a romance type movie and then he snaps and then do the torture thing and it throws everybody off guard with the wrong one. The way Yeah, so with the wrong one, it throws you off guard because his smiley: Yeah. The thirty last thirty minutes of the movie was not we didn't know it was a torture movie. 7evenThirty: Right. Right. PropJosh: it cause he becomes Superpoweredly abusive, evil, and the movie gets really stupid 7evenThirty: Out of nowhere. PropJosh: out of nowhere. He's literally 7evenThirty: Right. smiley: Which is why I liked it. I think that's why I liked it. PropJosh: cooking dinner and then she's I'm about to go with my friends, and he just turns he just snaps into a completely different person, starts beating her. 7evenThirty: Right. PropJosh: And then the movie had the nerve to put like, if you or someone you know is being abused, call this number. And it was like, What the fuck? smiley: yeah, the little mm hmm. Yeah, 7evenThirty: Right. Right. smiley: that's fair. 7evenThirty: Yep, yep. smiley: So I mean, you know, regardless, I like the I like the whole twist in the middle of the movie, like that the fact that the last thirty minutes was a it was a horror movie instead of a romantic comedy. that's how it shifted 7evenThirty: Mm-hmm. smiley: it shifted a romantic drama. But this movie stayed crazy that the end. 7evenThirty: And it was just funny how disrespectful chaos was. Yeah, and the first one, he was so disrespectful. That shit was hilarious. He was fucking her right in smiley: In the movie? Yeah. That was funny. Yeah, he was. He was. So PropJosh: Yes, he was the best character. 7evenThirty: front of him, but sorry. He knew he was coming back home so early. I just kept fucking. He kept going. smiley: Yeah. That's crazy. my goodness. Yep. PropJosh: Ha ha ha! Right. He kept going, he did not care. He smiley: He did. He absolutely did. 7evenThirty: He he he started going harder when he came in. He started fucking her even harder. smiley: That's the crazy. All right. Well, that's all we got, guys. Watch the movie. check it out. Check all three of them out at your own risk. Good night.