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EP 51: Building A 2026 NFL Draft Top 50 Big Board Vs. The ESPN Top 50 - Part 3 (Players 13-18) · 3 Guys, 6 Balls NFL Podcast

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3 lifelong friends, 6 trusty balls and endless NFL ticks.
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Welcome to three guys 6 balls NFL podcast.
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Welcome to episode 51 of three guys 6 balls NFL podcast.
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I'm your host Joel and I'm here with my two Co hosts Will and
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Avery. This week we're going to
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continue building our top 50 big board for the 2026 NFL draft by
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scouting players 13 through 18 on ESP NS top 50.
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But before we do that, I had a question that I wanted to ask
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you guys to get our show started.
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However, Will disrupted that plan and he said he needed two
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minutes at the start of the show to talk about something that he
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wanted to talk about. So I'm going to let Will go
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first. All right, two minutes.
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I hate this by the way, but go ahead. 2 minutes might be a bit
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much, but that's for a separate separate topic.
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So today is holy ceremonies for the Olympics and a huge shout
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out to Team USA Olympic hockey, both men and women's.
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Did you guys catch either of those games?
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I know you're not hockey fans, but I did not, man.
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I woke up at 5:00. AMI forget it already started.
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I didn't realize it was ending. Sheepers.
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Closing ceremony said I woke up at 5:00 AM Sunday morning today
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to catch that hockey game. Holy crap, both men and women
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beat Canada in overtime. 2 golds over Canada.
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I mean it's just so satisfying. Just a big shower to all the
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Olympic athletes. Team America won Team America
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World Police, that's for sure. S that's a separate thing to
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worry about that. So yeah, that was all just to
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charge the Team USA hockey. And if you have a chance to see
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some of the saves, Connor Hellerbuck as is the men's
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goalie and Aaron Frankel is the women's goalie.
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If you just catch some of the highlights from their games,
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they've Frankel went up two goals the entire Olympics, the
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entire tournament, only two goals.
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And then today had Carter Hellerbuck had 40 saves in just
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today's match. So just just throwing out there,
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I know it's not football, We are football podcast, but the hockey
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was hockey in today anyway. Three guys, 6 bucks.
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All right, well, let's get into the question that I had for you
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guys today, which is related to the NFL draft.
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So the question I wanted to ask is if you guys were an NFLGM,
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would you have a draft for need or a best player available draft
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strategy? Totally depends how bad is that
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need. It all also depends on where
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you're at with your team, if you're trying to rebuild or just
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find the the few missing pieces for your roster.
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I think in general, I like that the like maybe the top ten draft
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picks just pick the best, best available player because if
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you're the 10 worst teams, I just feel like at that point you
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just need talent regardless. But definitely towards the end
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of the first round, just those top teams, I feel like they
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should be looking for the best fit.
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I think it is pick back pick scenario.
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If you need a receiver and you're sitting at pick 20 and
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the top three receivers, 4 receivers already taken and the
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next one's not until like mid second, I'm not going to reach
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and take that next receiver. I'm just going to take best
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available or look to trade my pick.
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So I I think it is very pick dependence.
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Yeah, I think it is for the most part.
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But if I had to pick one, I would say I'm probably a best
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available type of guy. The reason why is because I've
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seen too many times where a team has had a certain need of the
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position and instead of drafting a player who is better, they
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reach for a guy who's not as good of a player but just fills
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the need and it ends up not working out.
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So like we look at quarterbacks, it happens with quarterbacks all
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the time, like JJ McCarthy, Anthony Richardson, Kenny
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Pickett. Teams will take a quarterback
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because they need a quarterback so bad that they'll just reach
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for one in the first round. When really what they should be
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doing is building the overall team and taking the best
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available player so that when they have the right quarterback,
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they already have the team in place.
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But instead they waste their pick on a lesser quarterback
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because they need a quarterback and then it just doesn't work
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out and it sets them back even more.
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So I am more of a best player available type of guy, but I do
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understand that it's kind of like a situation by situation
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type of thing as well. And as a as a fan, you want best
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player available every time unless they're an offensive
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line. Yes, you want best, flashiest
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player available as a fan. No one likes it.
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I mean, I'm sure there were some Patriots fans who are like, Oh
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yeah, Will Campbell #3 this fits our team great.
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But I'm sure there is a even larger amount that were what are
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we doing picking an offensive lineman?
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He doesn't, I mean, this is not what we want.
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And then he went on to have a wonderful.
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Season, except in the Super Bowl.
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Well, OK, one game, all right, he'll be fine.
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The most important game. Yeah, yeah.
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I think going off real quick, Will, the amount of times I've
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heard fans say, well, we just don't have a good line.
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Our line just sucks. We just don't have a good line.
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And then draft comes like we just got this guy I've never
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heard of. It's like, yeah, because
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offensive lineman aren't showing up on Sports Center, you know,
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So it's one of those things where, yeah, it's boring.
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You want something flashy, but the thing that you've been
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complaining about all year long, you know that's the guy you
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need. It's a really good point.
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It is 100%. You hear that all the time when
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their team sucks. Our offensive line is just so
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bad. Offensive line is just so bad.
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And then they get to the draft and then it's like why are we
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drafting an offensive lineman? This is so boring.
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I just waited the whole offseason for you guys to draft
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an offensive lineman in the first round.
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Yeah. All right, Well, let's get into
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our scouting for today. So, so far, we've scouted 12
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players. And on today's episode, we're
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going to scout players 13 through 18 on the ESPN Big
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Board. And then at the end of the
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episode, we'll add those players into our big board and rank them
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where we feel they should go. So just so you guys know who
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we're scouting today, those players are Washington wide
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receiver Denzel Boston, Oregon tight end Kenyan Civic, Miami
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edge Hakim Mesador, Utah offensive tackle Caleb Lomu,
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USCY wide receiver Makai Lemon, and LSU cornerback Mansour
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Dillane. So we'll get started with the
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number 13 player on ESPN's top 50, which is Washington wide
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receiver Denzel Boston. And I want to start this one by
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going over a player comp, but it's not my player comp.
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This is a player comp that comes from NFL.com and I wanted to see
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what you guys thought of this player comp.
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Sonfl.com lists Denzel Boston's player comp as Puka Nakua, so I
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wanted you guys to tell me if you agree or disagree with this
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player comparison and why. Man, I understand it.
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I guess I don't know if I agree with it.
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I hadn't really considered it, honestly.
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He's ready to do the work in the run, blocking.
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He doesn't drop the ball a lot. The thing I don't agree with is
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he's only had 650 yards after the catch in his entire career.
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He just doesn't have he doesn't have that after the balls in my
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hand play making ability that that you see from Puka.
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So I, I, I understand it on some aspects, but I don't and others.
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And then then against heavy competition against Oregon and
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Ohio State combined, he only had 51 yards in those two games.
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And that's again, is not what you're seeing out of out of a
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player like Puka. And also were talking about him
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straight into college, which if that's a player comp, I actually
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I probably don't know as much about him back then.
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If we're doing it for now, I don't see it for right now.
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Yeah, I think it's based off of, I mean, I would assume it's
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based off of when they came out of college, but if you look at
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Pukunukua's stats at BYU, they're actually not that good.
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I mean, they're like they're solid, but they're not like he's
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not getting like 1000 yards every year.
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So I don't know if BYU just didn't use them right or what.
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But when as soon as he stepped into the NFL, he's been awesome.
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So at first when I saw this, I was like, there's no way that
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this guy's poking Akua. But after watching his tape, I
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can see some similarities in their game.
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Like neither of them have elite speed, but they're both physical
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competitive receivers. They're both good at run
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blocking. So I can see how they're
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similar. I don't know if I would say that
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necessarily, that is the player comparison that I would give,
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but I could definitely see some similarities between him and
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Puka Nakua. It just it seems a little bit
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low effort like I mean, I guess Puka Nakua has been one of those
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guys that's been in the news more recently.
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I just just mainly like post season play, but I definitely
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think there's a lot better comparisons.
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I mean, Drake London I feel like would be a much better
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comparison, like size wise. I mean, so I it just seems a
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little weird to just go straight for puka Nikua especially.
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I mean their physicals aren't even the same.
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I don't even like I mean they're both receivers.
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So I guess there's that. They're both pretty good at what
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they do. They're both players who play
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football. Yeah, but it just, it doesn't
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seem like an accurate way to represent Boston receiver Denzel
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Washington. All right, well now we'll get
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into the actual scattering report part.
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So I think Denzel Boston is an elite red zone weapon because of
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his 64200 and 10 LB size. Over the last two seasons, he
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has 20 touchdowns, so quarterback can just throw it up
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to him and just let him use his size to make a play.
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He has an elite catch radius because of his size and he's
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very good at tracking the ball. So it makes things a lot easier
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on the quarterback because they don't have to throw a perfect
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pass. Obviously you want them to throw
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the perfect pass, but if they don't throw the perfect pass, he
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has the ability to still catch the ball because he has the size
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and the catch radius to do it. If you put the ball in his area,
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there's a good chance that he's going to come down with it.
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He reminds me of Mike Evans in this way, and I'm not saying
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that he is Mike Evans, but I just think that this specific
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skill that he has is similar to Mike Evans because you can just
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throw the ball up and just let him make a play.
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Also, I thought he had really good after the catch ability
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because he's not the fastest guy, he's not the shiftiest guy,
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but what I saw from him after the catch comes because of his
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size. I frequently saw him bouncing
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off tackles after the catch. I saw him dragging defenders for
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extra yards. I really like how he fights for
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extra yards before he goes down. And Washington often use him on
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screen passes where they would just get him the ball and just
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let him run through defenders. So I think he uses his size just
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overall very well. Whether it's catching a
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touchdown in the end zone, whether it's using his catch
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radius to catch a ball that's not thrown perfectly, or whether
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it's just after the catch breaking tackles and fighting
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for those extra yards. I think overall he uses his size
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very very well. He does feel a little bit like
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it's just somewhere in between, like he could play tight end if
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he wanted to, not as a blocking tight end, but he's got the just
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those physical traits, just that kind of hybrid look.
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I remember Oregon playing him. Just a very, very physical
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receiver, like Jill said and even on the scouting report,
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just pointing out that he's a great, great red zone threat.
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The ability to catch those contested balls, jump over to
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Fenders. Honestly looks like a very, very
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solid wide receiver. I think that as you mentioned
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here, physical blocker on the perimeter, I think he's great
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blocking and that's going to be huge because you see it from the
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top level guys right like like Puka Nukua, it's going back to
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him. That's what he did well this
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year. You saw it a lot on run plays.
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You see out there in front, you see Nukua setting the edge.
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They shift them in motion them in a lot get the crack on the
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linebacker and he's got the edge and they're running right off
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his butt. And so I, I think if, if teams
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are paying attention, they will utilize that as much as they
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can. The NFL is a copycat league.
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And so they're going to see something they like and they're
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going to copycat it with whoever they can.
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And so I think that actually helps to boost him up the draft
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board quite a bit. But getting off the line of
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scrimmage and getting up field more is is some pretty big areas
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of of improvement for him. I feel like that's kind of like
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the thing that every receiver that we've scouted so far has,
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like that's the thing they need to work on is getting off press
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coverage at the line of scrimmage against the physical
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coroner's. So far, I've noticed that with
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every single receiver that we've scouted.
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So it just seems to be a common theme there.
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I do want to bring this up and will you kind of mentioned it
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already, but something to note about Denzel Boston is how
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productive he was or how unproductive he was, I should
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say, when he went up against the better teams.
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So here's some notable games to use as examples for Denzel
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Boston. So three games from 2024.
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So against Indiana, he had four catches for 43 yards, 2 catches
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for 35 yards against against Penn State, and then he had
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three catches for 43 yards against Oregon.
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And then in 2025 he had three catches for 26 yards against
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Ohio State and then 4 catches for 25 yards against Oregon in
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2025 as well. He did have two touchdowns in
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that game, but still only four catches for 25 yards.
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So that is something to note with him.
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Why do you guys think that is? Why do you think his production
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dips when he goes against those better teams?
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It could just be game plan where they're trying to do something
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different, but also could be that they're these better teams
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are focusing more on the better athletes and so they're doubling
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them. They're they're shifting over.
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They're they're taking away nothing.
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Every team start trying to do this.
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Just some teams are just better at it.
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They're taking away the primary receiver.
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You can beat me somewhere else. So I agree with Will completely.
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I think I mean, especially in college, you see game plans
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shift dramatically when you're facing really tough defense,
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especially when you're both really good teams and every
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other game you've been playing has been middle of the road.
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You have the resources to take some of these X Factor players
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off the board or at least limit them.
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I think that it's probably the case here as well.
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I mean, I know Oregon is, you know, every time they play some
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big game, they've got their really great wide receivers that
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rarely get touches. In fact, I felt like most of the
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time Jamari Johnson is their backup tight end who will also
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be in the draft next year, got a large majority of touches
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because he was just a relatively unknown threat because every
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other player is being, you know, carefully watched.
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But I mean, even Denzel Boston, I mean, even in that game with
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four catches, 25 yards, I mean, he's still got 2 touchdowns.
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So it's one of those things where it's, you know,
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situational strategy and him being a really good red zone
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threat. I mean, they utilized him
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properly. They just weren't, you know,
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looking for him every, every down.
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All right, well, let's move on to the number 14 player on the
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ESPN Top 50 big board. We are all Oregon fans, so I
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think we're all a big fan of Oregon Titan Kenyan Siddiq, but
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there is no bigger fan than Avery.
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So I'm going to have Avery start with Kenyan Siddiq.
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Kenyan Sadiq is a baller. Dude's a straight up athlete.
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Every time he's on the field, every time he touches the ball,
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I mean, something awesome usually happens, whether he's
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hurtling someone, you know, you think he might be tackled, and
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then it turns out none of his limbs touch the ground.
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He ends up spinning out, getting an extra 10 to 15 yards.
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Every time he touches it, something amazing is happening.
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I know that he is a man among boys for the most part against
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most college competition. He reminds me a lot of Evan
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Ingram, both size wise and then also his play style.
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One thing here, areas of improvement.
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This is where I kind of diverge a little bit with Joel, but to
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only to a degree. Just that catch focus on throws
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above his numbers. I have noticed that a lot of the
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throws from Dante Moore, his quarterback, seemed to go a
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little bit over his head, which is unfortunate because of all
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the receivers. I mean like the amount of times
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that those Oregon receivers had to slow down to catch a ball was
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ridiculous. And the fact that it only
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happened to Kenyon was a little bit ironic.
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But my thing isn't necessarily catching above the numbers.
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My thing is landing properly, like there was two times in like
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immediate memory that he jumps up.
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I mean, a great like diving catch, but vertical diving and
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then ends up landing and he's just so big that it's like, hey,
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that cannot have, you know, felt good.
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That couldn't have been good. You know, I'm worried about him
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breaking a hip even at age 21. So I would say for the most
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part, it's really just keeping himself healthy.
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This is not a direct comparison. But just as far as injuries go,
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a little bit of Derrick Rose is how I've always kind of seen
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him. Again, they're not the same type
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of player. They're they don't even play the
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same sport. They're not the same size.
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But Derrick Rose was a victim of his own athleticism where just
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constant, constant explosive jumping from both knees.
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It was only a matter of time before just caught up with him.
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It was just unfortunate that it happened earlier than than you
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would like. I really hope that Canyon City
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paces himself at least as far as the physically risky plays.
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Maybe get a little bit more like, and not to the same degree
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as, oh, shoot, Lockett, Tyler Lockett, where he's just, you
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know, protecting himself a little bit more.
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Of course, by doing that, you do negate some of the explosive
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amazing plays that he does have. So it's really kind of up to him
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and and how he feels like he wants to spend his NFL career.
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But this guy's a monster. Yeah, I think the first thing
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that comes to mind when you look at Kenyan Sadiq, just looking at
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him, is that he's an absolute freak athlete.
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He's 63245. He's got a 41 1/2 inch vertical.
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He can power clean 365 lbs, bench 435 lbs.
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He can run A4540. The dude is just an absolute
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freak athlete and he uses every bit of that athleticism as a
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blocker and that's really where he excels is as a blocker.
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Or you can use him as a blocker a lot because he's so good at
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it. He's just very physical and
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impactful as a blocker. The only thing with this
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blocking I would say is that his technique needs some refinement,
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but I think that can be easily fixed at the NFL level.
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He's more of just a a good blocker because he is such a
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good athlete that he just uses athleticism to overpower the
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defenders instead of actually with the proper technique.
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But I think that isn't a pretty easy fix for him at the NFL
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level. I've got some real mixed
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feelings here. If you just stop at the
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statistics, he's not a first round pick.
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I mean he's just not. It's just straight numbers.
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But when you watch the tape, I mean he sorry, going back he had
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40 receiving yards a game and eight total touchdowns.
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Now they were all receiving touchdowns, 8 touchdowns, great,
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but 40 yards a game? You're not talking about that at
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any position where well, maybe running back, but but not tie
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end or receiver as oh, 40 yards a game.
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That's a first round pick, that's for sure.
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First round. Guy, but that's because Oregon
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used him as a blocker so much because he's so good at it.
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Yep, that that's where it's going next is that the table of
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tape says something different. If you watch the film, it says
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something completely different. Great body control and
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explosiveness. He gets moved all over the
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formation. They use them in the run
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blocking so much. If you watch Oregon play,
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they're very much and have been for a long time.
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They run the spread at least I still believe they run the
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spread, but they run like a shorter spread to where it's all
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I swing past like screens. All are running out of the
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spread. They don't push the ball that
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deep that frequently. Someone's going to disagree with
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that I'm sure. Well if you look at each
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percentages doesn't matter. He's got strong semi
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inconsistent hands. But when he has a ball in his
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hands, it's staying in there. He's too fast to keep watching
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for linebackers came up with him and he's too strong for DBS to
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to affect him. And and so like I said, Joel the
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getting getting the right leverage on the blocking, he
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needs some work, but that's just technique work.
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And so my real issue with him is that what you're going to get
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day one out of the boxes, Canadian city is not going to be
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equivalent to the value of the pick that he's going to go at.
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And people are talking like pick nine of the chiefs, some people
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are talking mid 20s. I think that the value you're
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going to get from him is not going to be equivalent to the
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value of pick. Yeah, Avery, I'm curious if you
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agree with that Avery because you compared him to Evan Ingram.
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So like if you knew Avery that you were getting an Evan Ingram
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type of guy with, let's just say the Bucks have pick 15, so let's
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say pick 15, would you be excited about that?
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If you're getting Evan Ingram at pick 15, would you be excited
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about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would.
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I feel like the ceiling's a little higher than Evan Ingram.
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To be fair, though, I do feel like tight ends are kind of like
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like you get like you get from your tight end how you want to
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use them. That's a horrible.
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I did not word that very well, but it's just one of those
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things where if. I mean, you look like with what
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Will said here, the stats like they don't, it doesn't tell the
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whole story. The other thing is you have
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another future NFL player, Jamari Johnson, that's also
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getting, I mean, if you look at his stats, it's probably like
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80% of what Kenyan got. So The thing is, is they're not
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necessarily, I mean, it's not like, I mean, if he played at
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some school where he is the only player getting drafted, like,
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yeah, he'd probably have twice as good as stats, you know,
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because they're going to a more often.
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And I do think that is valuable to see, especially when defenses
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know coming into a game this is their guy and we still can't
20:44
stop him. So that's that is something else
20:46
to look at. And that's usually how I'll
20:48
decipher, you know, higher stats like that is like, OK, this was
20:52
a known commodity coming into every game and he still got his
20:56
numbers. The big thing to me is just is
20:58
just the purely athleticism. I I just every time he touches
21:01
the ball, it's a highlight play. And that's something that I feel
21:04
like in the NFL right now. I mean, it's partially fan
21:08
service, I guess, some exciting offensive players, but I mean,
21:12
that's usually the difference between getting a first down and
21:14
not getting a first down, you know, breaking a play wide open
21:17
and that's that is what you get. So it'd be one thing if he was
21:20
just a sure bet, you know, always catching the balls, you
21:23
know, just just reliable. But he's more than reliable.
21:27
So for that, I think at 15, absolutely I would, I would pick
21:31
him. I mean I am biased too, but
21:34
still, I'd pick him. OK.
21:35
So follow up question for both of you guys, where would you put
21:38
Kenyan Sadiq compared to Brock Bowers, Tyler Warren and Colson
21:43
Loveland, because those were the three guys that were drafted in
21:46
the first round the last two years.
21:48
So where would you put Kenyan Sadiq compared to those three
21:51
guys as a tight end? I'd put him in the in the same
21:53
spot as Colson Loveland and Tyler Warren.
21:56
Honestly, I feel like, again, I feel like that is something
21:59
where it depends on your usage. You know, if you're a team
22:03
that's not using your tight ends that well or just you've got
22:07
better options than hey, maybe go with somebody else.
22:10
But I, I mean, I remember watching both Tyler Warren at
22:13
Penn State and Loveland at Michigan, and none of those guys
22:17
did anything more than Canyon City does, not as far as just
22:21
stats necessarily, but just as far as their physicals, their
22:24
ability to catch, their ability to create space and break
22:27
tackles. So, I mean, again, I'm not
22:31
saying that he's necessarily going to have a better rookie
22:33
year, one, because I don't know what team he's on.
22:36
And then two, I don't know how they're going to use him.
22:39
But it's, I mean, especially if they're using him to block a
22:41
little bit more than, yeah, I mean, you're not going to see as
22:43
many, you know, receptions in yards.
22:46
I think you're the frame size only right because Tyler.
22:48
Both Tyler Warren and Colston Loveland were 6, 465, right?
22:52
Yeah, yeah. Loveland.
22:54
Loveland's a skinny boy, though. And the one.
22:57
He was a year ago. One thing I've consistently
22:59
learned from Duke, watching scouting airports and doing all
23:02
that kind of stuff is that boy howdy does one inch make a huge
23:06
difference when it comes to scouting.
23:09
And we'll talk about that later. We'll talk about that later with
23:11
Makai Lemon for sure, because now I'm gonna have a molehill
23:15
there to me. But but I do, I do think I put
23:18
Sadiq under probably all three, four of them.
23:22
You said Bowers, Bowers, Loveland and Warrens.
23:25
Yeah, under all three of them. But again, it comes back to to
23:28
usage on his team. To go back to what you were
23:31
saying. Avery Jamari Johnson this year,
23:33
32 receptions, 510 yards. Sadiq got 51 catches, 560 yards.
23:38
So Sadiq was targeted more or had more touchdowns.
23:41
Jamar Johnson had three, Sadiq had eight.
23:43
He had to share too much time and that took away from him.
23:45
Whereas I don't think Loveland or Warren or Bowers had to share
23:49
same time. I mean, Bowers at Georgia,
23:51
that's all anybody would ever talk about down there.
23:54
So I put him under there, but it's probably just recently bias
23:57
or I guess unbiased. I guess maybe I've better.
24:00
I think that's fair. Will's take, honestly, I, I do
24:03
think that's fair. I, I don't think that Sadiq has
24:05
necessarily proven anything in college that he is better than
24:09
these other prospects. I just think that that big
24:11
playability is really what separates and in my mind adds
24:16
enough value to go over. I wouldn't put him over Bowers
24:20
just because Bowers has proven it year in and year out.
24:23
But yeah, I think that given the right team, he could be very
24:26
similar to Brock Bowers, though just a an absolute threat of a
24:30
receiving tight end who can also block very well.
24:33
Yeah, yeah. And just to go to one thing that
24:35
Will had kind of brought up with the scouting reports and how it
24:37
makes a difference for one inch versus this guy versus this guy.
24:41
It's like we talked about this last year with Harold Fan and
24:43
junior, right? He's not the typical size that
24:46
you want to tight end, but look at the rookie season he had.
24:48
He was very good for the Browns. So I don't necessarily think
24:52
that the size of Kenyan Sadiq makes any difference when
24:56
evaluating him as a player. I know we kind of talked about
24:58
it for Ruben Bayne too and how he doesn't have the arm length
25:01
and that type of stuff. But the reason why it's a factor
25:04
for Ruben Bayne is because his length.
25:06
Lack of length doesn't allow him to make tackles that he should
25:09
make. Like he misses a lot of tackles.
25:11
He actually missed over 15% of his tackles in every single
25:14
college season. So when it like in that case, it
25:16
does make a difference, but in the case of Kenyan Sadiq, I
25:18
don't think his size makes any difference when it comes to
25:21
evaluating the player. All right, so let's move on to
25:24
the number 15 player on ESP NS top 50 big board, which is Miami
25:28
Edge Akeem Mesador. I'm excited to talk about Akeem
25:31
Mesador because after watching his tape, I think he's actually
25:34
my favorite defensive player in this entire draft.
25:37
If you were to look up the definition of relentless motor,
25:40
you'd see the name Akeem Mesador next to it.
25:43
This guy is flying around the field 100 miles an hour on every
25:46
play, and especially when he's rushing the passer.
25:48
And I'm going to say something that I'll get a lot of hate for
25:50
and I do not care. Hakeem Mesedor is a better pass
25:54
rusher than Ruben Bane. Kim Mesador is a better pass
25:58
rusher than Ruben Bayne, and it's not just because he had
26:01
more sacks in Bay. Watch the tape and you'll see a
26:03
Kim Mesador consistently beating Ruben Bayne to the quarterback.
26:07
There are a number of plays where I watched a Kim Mesador
26:09
beat Ruben Bayne to the quarterback, and the only reason
26:12
Ruben Bayne was credited with a half sack on the play is because
26:15
the quarterback wasn't technically down yet when he got
26:17
there. But really, it was a Kim Mesador
26:19
that made the play. He's got an elite first step.
26:22
He's got active hands to get off blockers.
26:25
He's got an impressive change of direction and he's going 100
26:28
miles an hour until the play is over.
26:31
It's unfortunate because Akim Mizador won't be drafted in the
26:33
top half of the first round because he'll be a 25 year old
26:36
rookie, but I don't care. Akim Mizador might just be the
26:40
best pass rusher in this entire draft.
26:42
I absolutely love this guy. Will, I'm taking the I'm
26:45
thinking that you don't agree with me.
26:46
No, I was. I was trying to think of teams
26:48
in the back half of the first round that that I would be a
26:50
good fit. Because what you just told me
26:52
Jewel was well, right in between the lines of what you just said
26:56
is that he's very good but needs someone else to draw the
27:00
attention. Because better or not, Reuben
27:03
Bayne drew all the attention on that off on that defensive line.
27:07
He got the double teams, he got the chip help.
27:09
He got all that stuff on the opposite side because Reuben
27:12
Bayne was the name that drew the attention.
27:15
So, so the the backseat rusher Mesidor here was able to reap
27:20
all the benefits because Reuben Bain got all the attention,
27:24
which is great. I love that.
27:26
And, and but what did he do with that attention?
27:28
Was he made play after play after with with the lack of
27:31
attention? Was he made all the plays?
27:33
It's not like he didn't get the attention and it didn't make the
27:36
plays. He made-up for it.
27:39
He made that whole team better. Do you think that just because
27:41
of what I said, or do you think that because that's actually
27:44
what you think from scouting him?
27:46
But no, I actually have him right to hire the Reuben Bay as
27:48
well. But I just, I think that that
27:51
might be a part of it. Same, same, same thing.
27:53
We were just taking away from getting Sadiq with we're now
27:57
giving to Mesador. He had to share, share the
28:01
spotlight on that defensive line.
28:03
The problem was he wasn't as big of a name as Reuben Bayne.
28:06
And so they shifted all that to help the other side.
28:08
So I, I, I do, I also like Mesador a lot.
28:12
And I'm just going to kind of cut to the end here because I
28:14
think the only thing that's really being talked about was
28:17
was Mezdor is, oh, he'll be a 25 year old rookie.
28:20
That's a big old. Who cares though for me.
28:22
You sign. I don't care.
28:24
You get him in a a rookie contract that has a four year
28:27
guarantee 550 year team option. You keep him for that 50 year
28:31
team option. He is in a probably late first
28:35
round if not early second round contract so it's very team
28:38
favorable. By the time his first contract
28:40
over, he's 30 years old and now you don't have to re sign him.
28:44
You get you ask any company ever when they hire somebody they
28:47
want 5 good years out of somebody, that's all that they
28:50
can really hope for. After that we got our money
28:52
worth if we bring him in and train him for five good years, 5
28:56
elite past Russian years. I mean no team can complain
29:00
about that. All right, rookie deal and you
29:01
don't have to reside him because he's 30 years old.
29:04
I mean, come on, That's, that's, that's the dream.
29:06
I mean, I think because he is a little bit older and he does
29:09
have more experience, I think he steps into the NFL and is a day
29:14
one starter and he doesn't need to be a guy who needs to be
29:17
trained up as a pass rusher. I think he's an NFL ready pass
29:21
rusher right now and I think will based off of what you were
29:24
saying earlier, where he needs somebody on the other side to
29:26
have all the attention. The perfect fit for a key
29:29
mezzador would be the Detroit Lions.
29:31
Yep, at pick 17 with Aidan Hutchinson on the other side,
29:34
Hakeem Ezador would have a double digit sack season. 21
29:37
Pittsburgh if they're gonna take a quarterback and you're still
29:39
there. Yep, he's another good spot.
29:42
Yeah, yeah. Although the last thing they
29:44
need is more defense. They need to sure work out their
29:46
offense so. I agree with both of you.
29:48
Even the parts where you disagreed.
29:50
I still agree with that. No, I, I, I agree with Joel
29:53
completely, but also I, I, I, I, I'm glad Will brought that up
29:57
that, that, you know, because the line was being distracted by
30:03
other big bodies, it allowed him to go in and do work.
30:07
I mean, fortunately, defense, as in, you know, as well as offense
30:11
is a team sport. And so you know, it, if that's
30:13
what it requires some bigger body, someone else to, to
30:17
distract, draw a double team, you know, whatever to be able to
30:20
go in there. I mean, I agree with Joel.
30:23
The motor is insane. It is like he said, the
30:26
definition of relentless. Also, I think he is ready to
30:30
start day one. So I, I do think that he would
30:33
be a good 1-2 punch with some other, you know, good edge
30:37
rusher or even a, a big defensive tackle to take the
30:40
pressure off. Yeah, I mean, really the only
30:42
negative thing I have to say about him, aside from his age,
30:45
which people I don't care about but people will say is a
30:48
negative. The only other thing I have to
30:49
say about him on the negative side is that he sometimes does
30:53
lose his balance and loses his body control because he's going
30:56
so fast that his body just can't keep up with how fast he's
30:59
trying to move. Go watch the tape of Hakeem
31:02
Ezidor. This guy is moving so insanely
31:05
fast on every single play and he does not stop until the play is
31:08
over. Like it is insane how quickly he
31:11
gets off the ball, how fast he's moving throughout the entire
31:14
play. This guy just does not stop.
31:16
But sometimes his body just cannot keep up with him because
31:19
he is trying to go so fast. But that's really the only other
31:23
negative thing that I would have to say about him.
31:25
But he's my favorite defensive player in this entire draft.
31:28
Absolutely love him. I would like to see him do a
31:30
better job of converting his speed into power and our last
31:34
thing here an area of improvement is is lacks of
31:36
strength to be offensive. I'm with good anchors.
31:38
He he's got incredibly fast hands as well and he uses a two
31:42
hand swipe. He will go down with it or he'll
31:44
go or he tries to stay outside so he'll go well would be right
31:49
with it. He swipes hands away, but that's
31:51
that's just not always going to work.
31:52
Some of these, some of these elite tackles in the NFL are
31:55
just unbelievably fast at replacing their hands after
31:58
they've been swiped, or punching with one hand and then after the
32:01
swipe, punching with the other hand.
32:02
I want to see more of him converting his speed into power
32:05
and using that speed as power rather than just straight speed.
32:09
But yeah, that the high motor and the speed is going to make
32:12
every defensive coordinator just incredibly happy.
32:15
Absolutely. And we mentioned this with Ruben
32:18
Bayne, so I'll mention it again here because they both play for
32:20
Miami. Their defensive line coach is
32:22
Hall of Fame as Jason Taylor, so he has coached up these two guys
32:26
very, very well. Overall, I think Akim Mesador
32:29
is, I mean, we'll talk about it later too, but Akim Mesador is a
32:31
better player than Ruben Bayne in my opinion.
32:34
I just don't like Ruben Bayne that much, but I love Hakeem
32:37
Ezador. All right, so let's move on to
32:39
the number 16 player for ESPN, which is Utah offensive tackle
32:42
Caleb Lomu. So will you're up.
32:45
Yeah, I knew that was coming. I if if Caleb Lomu had a larger
32:51
frame, he would easily, easily be the number one tackle in this
32:54
draft. Just leaps, leaps and bounds
32:58
better than both Maui Noah and definitely Spencer Fanno.
33:02
I cannot believe Fanno's ahead of this guy.
33:04
Truly shocked me. He's 66, only 304 lbs, and I
33:09
know for the average human only 304 pounds is substantial, but
33:13
when you're talking offensive tackle, it's not.
33:16
He has the softest and fastest feat that I've seen an offensive
33:19
tackle have in a long time. And you think that's a bad thing
33:22
when you're trying to kick and slide and get your spot, you
33:25
don't want heavy stomp and dinosaur feet.
33:29
You want soft, fast feet. But he's also able to plant his
33:32
feet and said he could anchor, good punch and elite ability to
33:35
recover. Because he's got a smaller
33:37
frame, he gets pushed off balance a bit, but his ability
33:41
to recover and stay with the, the rusher is second to none.
33:46
I'm, I'm, I'm pretty sure he's got the best technique of the
33:49
three tackles that, that we've looked at so far.
33:51
Utah used him a lot as a pulling tackle.
33:54
He moved a lot. He wasn't hitting a lot of the
33:57
defensive lineman. They were running usually away
33:59
from him and so he'd pull and be the lead blocker.
34:02
So he was hitting all the second level guys, which played to his
34:05
strength immensely. Because he had a problem because
34:07
of it, again, because of his size, he had a problem moving
34:11
earth at the line of scrimmage. Great.
34:14
And pass rush couldn't possibly move a defensive lineman in a
34:16
run play to save his life it seemed like.
34:19
But using him on as a pulling tackle, Excuse me, I'm so used
34:22
to pulling yards, using him as a pulling tackle, getting
34:25
downfield. He was able to to block
34:27
linebackers, block safeties and he's fast enough to stay ahead
34:31
of the run. There's a play that I saw in so
34:35
many different scouting reports where he's 30 yards downfield
34:38
blocking his safety as his running back.
34:40
He's running right behind him and it ends up scoring A
34:42
touchdown. It was just incredible to see.
34:44
He's constantly looking for work, heads on the swivel as the
34:47
D line stunts in front of him. He waits in the last possible
34:50
second to make sure the pass off happens and he's picking up the
34:53
next guy with his again, quick feet and quick hands.
34:55
I think he will struggle in the in the league against as Rutgers
34:59
to use brute force like like Miles Garrett.
35:03
Everybody struggles against Miles Garrett, but against like
35:05
a Miles Garrett type where they're just using brute force
35:08
just to get through him because of his size.
35:10
I think he has first round talent and technique in a third
35:12
round buggy. Let me ask, what do you guys
35:15
think of Lomo compared to Fano? Oh Lomu is way better.
35:19
I don't. I truly don't understand how
35:22
everyone says oh final is the best and Lomu is the second
35:25
best. That is just not true.
35:28
Not true. It is a pure size thing.
35:30
That's it. You know, that's interesting
35:32
because I feel like as a podcast and tell me if I'm wrong here,
35:35
but we think that Mesador is better than Bain, but everybody
35:39
else thinks Bain is better than Mesador, and we think that Lomu
35:42
is better than Fano, but everybody else thinks Fano is
35:44
better than Lomu. We're the experts, so they need
35:47
to exactly they need to listen to us.
35:48
We also said Jackson's art was going to be really good.
35:50
And guess what happened? Yeah.
35:56
I mean, that was me who said that first, by the way.
35:59
So no. But there was two things with
36:05
Caleb Ooman that stood out to me and Will already mentioned one
36:07
of them, which was I was impressed with his ability to
36:10
find defenders when he's pulling and he's on the move, he quickly
36:12
located them where the defender was at and because of that, he
36:15
was able to open additional holes in the run game.
36:18
The second thing I was impressed with was his ability to expand
36:21
the pocket and pass protection. I didn't see him get pushed back
36:24
into the quarterback. He would either move his man
36:27
further out to give his quarterback more room, or he
36:29
would hold his ground and not let the pocket collapse.
36:32
And watching his tape made me even less of a fan of Fano.
36:35
Because when you watch Caleb Lomu, truly the only part of the
36:39
pocket that was clean was where Caleb Lomu was.
36:42
Everywhere else was an absolute mess.
36:44
And Will, you were correct last time when you said Utah's right
36:46
guard was absolutely terrible. I noticed how bad he was while I
36:50
was watching the left side of the line because the quarterback
36:52
was being pressured from the entire right side of the line
36:56
and not where Caleb Lomu was. So I really liked his ability to
37:00
read. He was so bad, so bad.
37:04
I really liked Caleb Lomu's ability to redirect pass rushers
37:07
with his hands and throw them off their pass rush plan.
37:10
I I really liked Caleb Lomu a lot more than Spencer Fano.
37:14
Just watching his tape, I think it was so much better than
37:16
Spencer Fano's. I agree.
37:19
I I didn't have as many thoughts on this guy, but I did know that
37:22
I'm like this guy. Why is this guy ranked lower
37:24
than Fano? That I'm just, I remember
37:26
because I then look at some of those plays from Lomu and then
37:30
locate Fano and be like, I mean, I know this is Lomu's highlight,
37:34
but jeez, this is this is near night and day.
37:39
So yeah, I completely agree. It's a full frame thing.
37:43
Yeah, one thing I want to bring up real quick too is just for an
37:45
area improvement. I think he needs to get better
37:48
with his ability to finish. Too many times I saw him let go
37:51
of defenders early because the ball carrier had either moved
37:54
away from his side or ran past him.
37:56
I just didn't see him give a full effort on blocks right up
38:00
to the whistle like you do with Fano or Maui Noah.
38:03
I think those guys block into the whistle.
38:05
I didn't see Caleb Lomu doing that.
38:07
I think he came off of his blocks early and although in the
38:10
plays that I watched, his defender didn't end up making
38:13
the play, they could potentially make the play.
38:15
Like when you're in the NFL against guys who are faster,
38:17
they're bigger, stronger, if you don't finish the block, there's
38:21
potential that those guys could end up making the play.
38:24
So I think that's something that Caleb Lomu needs to work on.
38:27
All right #17 the number 17 player on ESP NS Top 50 Big
38:30
Board is USC wide receiver Makai Lemon, my favorite player in
38:35
this entire draft. And so for this one, I asked you
38:38
guys to give me a player comp. And the reason I asked you to
38:41
give me a player comp for Makai Lemon is because I've had a
38:44
player comp for him for a couple weeks now, and I'm eager to
38:47
share it. But before I do, I want to know
38:49
if my comp is close to what you guys are thinking or if it's way
38:53
off. I want to know how badly the
38:55
Internet is going to roast me here.
38:57
So Avery, why don't you start? Give me your player comp for
39:00
Mackay Lemon. I initially had one and now I
39:03
kind of have two, like kind of a like a a hybrid.
39:08
At first I was kind of thinking of JSN, but then I was also kind
39:12
of looking at Godwin a little bit too.
39:15
And then looking at both of them, I'm like, honestly, he
39:17
seems like just something kind of in the middle here.
39:20
Just as far as just his ability to, I mean, just the reliability
39:24
of JSN, but also the strength of of Godwin.
39:29
Honestly, it looked literally like just somewhere in between
39:33
those two players. That's what I had.
39:35
I also wrote down JSN. Similar size come out of
39:38
college, similar questions, and we have here have to build up
39:41
speed to have an explosive first step.
39:43
Same thing come out of Ohio State For JSN.
39:46
I truly think it's kind of spot on.
39:48
He just always sits in the hole, finds the open spot, makes the
39:51
catches, they move forward. All right, so that makes me feel
39:54
a little bit better. I don't think my account for him
39:56
is as crazy as some people might think it is.
40:00
Watch. This be Aminara St.
40:02
Brown, and he told us not to go with him because he wanted to go
40:05
with him to make us look. Yeah.
40:07
Yeah, I did tell them not to choose Aminara St.
40:10
Brown because that's what everybody says his player comp
40:12
is, and I disagree. When I watch Mackay Lehman play,
40:16
I see Antonio Brown. He's not the biggest, he's not
40:20
the fastest, but he beats you anyway.
40:22
It's the elite body control. It's the ability to track the
40:25
ball. It's the aggressive style that
40:27
he plays with. He plays 10 times bigger than
40:29
his frame and he makes insane catches that he has absolutely
40:33
no business making. USC was so confident in his
40:37
ability to make catches, they would throw him fade routes in
40:40
the end zone like he has the size of DK Metcalf.
40:43
He's dangerous with the ball in his hands and I truly think that
40:46
Makai Lemon is the best receiver in this draft.
40:48
When I watch Makai Lemon play, I get the feeling that he is a
40:51
special player that I don't get when I watch Jordan Tyson,
40:54
Carnell Tate, or Denzel Boston. He does not care about his size.
40:58
He does not care what size you are.
41:00
He's not afraid to get hit. He's not afraid to do all The
41:02
Dirty work. He runs great routes and I'm
41:04
telling you guys, Makai Lemon is something special.
41:08
He's him. Is that what you're saying?
41:10
He's him. Makai Lemon him.
41:13
Excuse me? I mean, what do you guys think?
41:16
What do you guys think of that cop, Antonio Brown?
41:18
I like it, I can see that. Another thing too, another
41:22
reason why is because you watch highlights of Antonio Brown and
41:25
watch highlights of Makai Lemon. You'll see on there that there's
41:28
plays where Antonio Brown is just just doing that nasty stiff
41:32
arm to some of these guys to get him off of him.
41:34
And Antonio Brown is like 5-10, like 185 lbs.
41:38
He's a little bit lighter and slightly shorter than Makai
41:40
Lemon, but Makai Lemon is not a big guy and he's just finding
41:45
ways to get off of these defensive backs to get extra
41:48
yards. Like I saw him throw some nasty
41:50
stiff arms. This dude again, has no business
41:55
making some of these catches and he's making it look easy.
41:58
Like he's like he's not even trying and he just makes the
42:01
catch that he has absolutely no business making whatsoever.
42:05
This dude is not blessed physically but his mindset and
42:10
the way that he plays is insane. Would you say he's your Jackson
42:13
Dart of the Year? Yes, my favorite player in this
42:18
whole draft, Mackay Lemon, and it's not close.
42:21
The amount of times I heard people in scouting airports
42:24
whether it be PFF or any random YouTube like us say well if he
42:29
were 6 foot, well if he were 6 foot dude it's 511.
42:33
One inch. Yeah dude 511 1/2 I just truly
42:37
don't think that matters anymore.
42:39
You can be 511 and play bigger. I looked up how tall Cooper Cup
42:43
was because I legitimately thought he was five. 10511 dude
42:47
6 foot two. I would have guessed he was 3
42:50
inches shorter that he now not taking anything away from Cooper
42:53
cup, he just stature rise looks smaller.
42:57
I think we're at a point to where in the NFL that few inches
43:02
does not matter as much anymore. In the receiver position
43:06
specifically, your ability to gain separation and to get open
43:10
matters significantly more than your than your height, because
43:15
if you can be open and make the catch, who cares how tall you
43:19
are? I actually think he uses it to
43:21
his advantage more where he just sneaks in behind the defense or
43:24
sits in the holes of the zone rather than being a big body
43:27
like like a tet who's A6 four and you're going to see him
43:30
everywhere in the field. He stands literally as just
43:33
taller than everybody else. Yeah, I think the really where
43:35
his size comes into play is he does have a little bit of a
43:38
limited catch radius due to his size, but honestly, it doesn't
43:42
matter. He'll make the catch anyway.
43:44
If you give him the opportunity to make the catch, he's going to
43:47
make it anyway. And really the biggest thing I
43:49
think he needs to work on is the same thing that we mentioned
43:52
with Denzel Boston and every receiver we've scouted so far.
43:55
He struggles against physical corners at the line of
43:57
scrimmage. It's the same thing with every
44:00
receiver so far, at least the top ones in the draft because we
44:03
haven't got to the bottom ones yet.
44:04
But the same thing, he struggles against press coverage, physical
44:09
corners, at the line of scrimmage.
44:11
But outside of that, man, Mckelliman can do everything
44:13
that you could possibly want from the receiver.
44:15
Yeah, I think I, I, I mean, I agree.
44:17
I, I think his dependability, but also his ability to make,
44:21
make the big play, not even necessarily.
44:24
I mean, he, he also has that ability, you know, the yards
44:27
after catch, which is, you know, something that JSN doesn't have
44:31
as much of at least, you know, comparing, you know, college to,
44:34
you know, NFL, you know, fairly here, which is why I kind of
44:38
gave him that Chris Godwin comparison as well.
44:40
I, I was just curious if he had just if he's more injury prone
44:44
or where the real weaknesses here.
44:47
Because like Joel said, you know, Antonio Brown was a
44:50
bonafide superstar for a number of years.
44:53
And yeah, it was also undersized.
44:55
But it's just one of those things where, you know, being at
44:58
the right place at the right time, having the ability to go
45:01
and make the catch, having the courage to make that catch while
45:05
being pummeled is huge. So, yeah, I, I agree with Joy.
45:09
I think he's, you know, this, this dude could be a a superstar
45:13
for sure. I'm curious to see where you
45:14
guys have him ranked because I, I.
45:17
Where we have him ranked, comrade.
45:21
I absolutely love this guy. I absolutely love Mikaela.
45:24
And so I I'm excited to see where you guys have him ranked
45:29
versus some of these other guys that we've already talked about.
45:32
All right. But let's move on to the number
45:34
18 player on the ESPN Top 50 big board, which is LSU cornerback
45:38
Mansoor Dillane. Will, why don't you start us off
45:41
with this one? Tell us about Mansoor Dillane.
45:43
Man, I love this man Sword Dillane.
45:46
Sore. I think he's a good candidate to
45:50
go to the Rams, I really do. I don't think he makes it that
45:52
far. I would love it love it if he
45:55
did. Sorry.
45:58
I tried to make sure my stats and our stats match up here. 45
46:01
taps in the season, we've got 14 pass deflection, 2 receptions, A
46:05
completion percentage of just 26.1% against him on over 200
46:10
pass coverage snaps. Elite coverage instincts did not
46:13
allow a single touchdown in 2025, and only two.
46:18
And yeah, I was going to say and.
46:19
Only two receptions of over 20 yards.
46:22
Yeah, that is unbelievable. He would have more tackles and
46:26
more pass deflections if they didn't just quit throwing the
46:29
ball his way. They they, the opposing teams
46:34
just decided we're not going to go that way on to our against
46:38
against LSU. We will throw it to anybody else
46:41
but whoever 4 is on. And unfortunately he's your best
46:44
corner. So he's going up in the top five
46:46
receiver. And so it's just, it's just a
46:49
pure problem. He he is able to play at the
46:52
highest level on both man and zone and did and did as such.
46:55
In Virginia Tech they played all zone well mostly zone and LSU
47:00
they aggressively played man coverage and he was all ACC and
47:04
all SEC honors. I think all American at both
47:08
schools and so able to play at the highest level.
47:11
His speed is good but not great. Shorter arms may prove a problem
47:14
when going up against bigger receivers like an A.J.
47:17
Brown, who's both large and physical.
47:20
But as we have here, he does not back down from these receivers.
47:23
He goes at them. He is on them.
47:26
I love Mansard Elaine, I watched a lot of his film today and I
47:33
good stuff. I would love to see him on the
47:34
Rams. I would love to see.
47:36
Him really good. He reminded me a little bit of a
47:38
just a bigger honey badger. Just the aggressiveness in which
47:42
he attacks the ball just seemed just almost kind of downright
47:46
frightening, especially playing man, just having this guy on
47:50
you. You are on his island.
47:52
Yeah, it's super impressive. I am.
47:53
I am really curious. I'm always curious to see how
47:56
cornerbacks do making the transfer from, I guess the
47:59
transition from college to NFL just because, you know,
48:03
sometimes, I mean, for. I'm glad he left Virginia Tech
48:06
and went to the SEC just to kind of prove it's like, hey, I can
48:09
do this and the big boy league. I mean, even though the SEC is
48:13
kind of deteriorated a little bit past few years, but no, I, I
48:17
think it's still. Better than it's still better
48:19
than mostly everywhere else. Duke won the ACC title, by the
48:23
way. That's that's the ACC right now.
48:26
So they didn't. Think they were like 6 and four.
48:29
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No one even no one even was mad
48:32
about it either. Like that's how bad they were.
48:34
No one, even Duke fans are like, yeah, I mean, we, we don't need
48:37
to take another L Let's, let's let's end on a win here.
48:42
No, I, I, I think this guy is great.
48:44
I, I, I'd like just the this particularly the strength here,
48:47
attacks the football and finishes plays.
48:49
That's the biggest thing for me is, is just that ferocity of
48:52
going in, but then also finishing the play.
48:55
The, the number of times I've seen a cornerback go in strong
48:59
and then barely miss and just let that receiver, you know, run
49:04
for an extra 15 yards before the safety has to go get him.
49:07
I like this guy a lot. Yeah, I do, too.
49:09
I truly think that Mansur d'alene is going to be a
49:11
shutdown corner in the NFL. He's got really fluid movement
49:15
skills that allow him to mirror whatever their wide receivers
49:18
are doing, and he sticks with them through their breaks.
49:21
I also really liked how he just smothers the catch point of the
49:25
ball. So whether the ball is up, high,
49:26
down low on the chest, it doesn't matter.
49:29
Wherever the ball is intended to be, he is smothering that area
49:33
to prevent the wide receivers from making that catch.
49:35
So I truly do think that Delane will be a shutdown corner in the
49:39
NFL. One additional thing to note
49:41
here during the season didn't allow a touchdown to reception
49:45
to 20 plus yards. That was it.
49:47
Also 0 penalties all season, no one single penalty.
49:51
So it's not like he was caught cheating doing it.
49:53
Not and say he wasn't cheating. And by cheating I don't mean
49:56
like Spygate kind of that level of cheating.
50:00
I mean holding is technically cheating against rules but but
50:04
as they say it's only cheating if you get caught.
50:06
So not saying he wasn't doing it, he was just really good at
50:09
not getting caught and that's what you want.
50:11
You want the guys who were really skilled at cheating.
50:17
Evasive cheating. Yeah.
50:18
Yeah. Yeah.
50:20
All right. Well, if you guys don't have
50:22
anything else to add here or with any of these other players,
50:25
we will get into our rankings. So we're going to have 18 total
50:29
players on our big board this week.
50:32
So we will, I put the the current rankings in the chat for
50:36
you guys, so I'll read them off for everybody who's listening.
50:38
So our current rankings one through 12 are one Kale Downs, 2
50:43
Arville Reese, three Fernando Mendoza, 4 Francis Maui Noah, 5
50:48
Sonny Styles, 6 Jeremiah Love, 7 Colonel Tate, 8 Keldrick Falk, 9
50:53
Jordan Tyson, 10 David Bailey, 11 Ruben Bain Junior and 12
50:58
Spencer Funnel. So on the list, let's start from
51:00
the top and the bottom, then we'll kind of fill in the middle
51:03
from there. So are any of these players, do
51:05
you think, are they going in the top three?
51:07
No. Avery.
51:08
No. OK I agree.
51:11
So Caleb Downs, Arvo Reese and Fernando Mendoza are staying at
51:14
three or one 2-3. Do you think Spencer Fondo is
51:17
still the worst player on this list?
51:19
Yes. Yeah, OK.
51:23
You knew that was coming. Yes, I did because I think he's
51:26
the worst player on this list as well.
51:28
What about Reuben Bain? He's currently at 11.
51:30
Where would you guys put Reuben Bain in comparison to these
51:32
other guys that we just scouted? I have Reuben Bain ranked at #16
51:37
for me. Hey, that's why I have them too.
51:40
Who are the 17? I have Denzel Boston.
51:45
Same dog, same. Avery, do you have any issue
51:51
with that or do you agree? No, that, no, that sounds great.
51:55
That sounds great. I had no one breaking into my
51:58
top 8 this week. I think you'll disagree with
52:01
Makai Lemon, but I have no one currently breaking in my top 8.
52:04
OK, so Avery, where do you put Makai Lemon?
52:07
I had put him above Carnell Tate.
52:09
Honestly, I'd put him above Jeremiah Love.
52:12
Because I haven't met 4 but I'm really really high on McKay
52:15
Lyman so. I wouldn't want to I I can
52:20
understand and mostly agree with your pipe on him, but simply
52:24
because he's just a skill position player that I think.
52:29
I don't think McKay Lyman is going to be a better NFL
52:33
athlete, whatever we want to call it, than Sonny Styles.
52:37
I mean, I'm willing to move. It's an overall thing, so I'm
52:40
willing to move him around. That's just where I personally
52:42
put him. I can agree with above Jeremiah
52:44
Love, but I don't I don't think he cracks the top five.
52:47
I would agree with Will. I would put him at six and move
52:51
everyone down one position. OK, so you want to keep our
52:53
current top five of downs, Arise, Mendoza, Mauino and
52:56
Styles and then put him at six. OK, Yeah, I'm.
53:00
Cool with that. I'll be honest, I like where we
53:03
just put him. But if this guy, if Makai Lemon
53:08
was initially ranked by whatever professionals and we had him the
53:12
first time, like we had him in that first whatever top 6, I
53:16
could see him being higher. I think partly it's just because
53:20
we've already established so many other names that just
53:23
skyrocketing him up almost feels a little irresponsible.
53:28
That will just bring his ranking down.
53:30
I had him at 8, we're putting him at six. 4 There's a big
53:37
difference between 4:00 and 8:00.
53:39
Well, sure, 4 numbers. Literally how big it is.
53:45
OK, so since we moved Jeremiah Love down, do you want to keep
53:47
him at 7:00 or do you want to move him down more?
53:50
Because I think Delane should go at 7:00.
53:52
That's where I have Delane ranked.
53:53
I have him ranked at 7 and I have Love at eight.
53:57
I'm good with that. I have Delane so so I've got
54:00
Love Tate Falk at 789 and then Delane at 10.
54:05
But I'm I'm good with moving about.
54:06
I think he's a more refined football player than Kendrick
54:09
Falk. He's probably a better athlete
54:11
than Carnell Tate and everyone hates running backs.
54:17
I do, yeah. I'm just trying to do Avery
54:20
favor and just move the running back down as far as possible
54:22
without. Being like that, I'm always, I'm
54:25
always for that. Yeah, all.
54:28
Right. OK.
54:29
So you guys want to put Delane at 7:00?
54:31
We'll do it. Something I want to do, we're
54:33
going to do it. OK, do you want to move Jeremiah
54:36
Love down any further than 8? Mean personally I like Tate
54:40
above love, but I mean that might be splitting hairs to a
54:44
degree. I mean, we have them right next
54:46
to each other. We had them at 6:00 and 7:00
54:48
last week. Well, OK, I'm going to keep Love
54:50
at eight. We'll keep Tate at 9.
54:51
Where are you guys putting Kenya Sadiq?
54:53
I have him at 11. I could do that.
54:55
I could do 11. Right between. 11 solid.
54:58
Keltrick Falk and Jordan Tyson. OK.
55:00
Where do you guys have Mesedor? Where do you guys have mesedor
55:02
though? I have him at 15 right above
55:06
Reuben Bain. So you think David Bailey's
55:08
better? I do.
55:09
So I've got, let me just run through this real quick.
55:12
So 10 I've got Keltrick Falk, 11 Sadiq, 12 Jordan Tyson, 13 Lomu,
55:18
14 Bailey, 15 Mesador, 16 Bain, 17 Boston, 18 Fano.
55:25
I would put Mesador higher. I would too.
55:27
I think I'm. I'm fine with that.
55:28
I just, you know, ranked them. The only reason to move him down
55:34
is because he's 25 or he's he's going to be a 25 year old
55:37
rookie. That's the only reason that
55:39
people will move him down. Yeah, that whatever all.
55:44
Right. So do you guys want to keep
55:45
Faulk, put Faulk at 10? I need to see like a active live
55:50
list. It's in the chat even though
55:52
it's not complete. Does someone put it in there?
55:55
Oh, we'll put it in there. All 18.
55:57
Yeah, all 18. Oh, we'll put one through 9.
56:00
So the Reds are the yeah. I want to see.
56:02
I want to see the bottom part, yeah.
56:03
I don't know why I didn't pick up the last number, but Spencer
56:06
Finer doesn't deserve a number. We will eventually find a player
56:10
worse than him, but we have not done it yet.
56:14
Not yet. I have a feeling it might be
56:16
next week, but I don't know for sure yet.
56:18
I actually, I'll be honest, I would put Kenyan Sadiq down to
56:22
positions to 13, yeah. And then move the other two guys
56:25
up. I'm totally good with that.
56:28
OK, so put Sadiq at 13. So we got to fill in spaces
56:32
10/11/14 and 15 or 10:11, 12/14 and 15.
56:36
Do you guys think anybody on this list is better than Falk or
56:39
are we going to put him at 10? I like him at 10.
56:41
I'm cooled up. OK.
56:43
I have Mesador at 11 Avery. I would, I would like him to be
56:47
higher than he is right now on, on, on that tentative list right
56:50
there at 15. I agree.
56:52
I'm going. I'm going to move it up.
56:54
OK, so here's who we have left. We've got Mesador, Jordan Tyson,
56:57
David Bailey, Caleb Lomo. Personally, just because of the
57:00
injuries and moving Jordan Tyson down, I just keep moving him
57:03
down because of the injuries, Sure.
57:05
So if you guys are good with Mesador at 11, I would like to
57:08
put him there. All right.
57:09
Yeah. OK.
57:15
So then do you guys want to put Jordan Tyson at 12?
57:18
I feel like if anything, let's let's just nitpick this thing
57:21
right here. OK.
57:22
So Jordan Tyson at 12 and then at 15 we would have David Bailey
57:27
and 14 we would have Caleb Lomu. OK.
57:29
Is that what you guys want to stick with?
57:31
I like it for now, so just to recap.
57:33
Our top 18 on our big board right now.
57:36
One is Caleb Downs, 2 is Arvel Reese, 3 is Fernando Mendoza, 4
57:40
is Francis Maui Noah, 5 is Sonny Styles, 6 Makai Lemon, 7 Mensur
57:45
Delane, 8 Jeremiah Love, 9 Carnell Tate, 10 Keldrick Falk,
57:50
11 Aqui Mesodor, 12 Jordan Tyson, 13 Kenyan Sadiq, 14 Caleb
57:56
Lomu, 15 David Bailey, 16 Ruben Bayne, 17 Denzel Boston and 18
58:01
Spencer Fono. You guys good with that?
58:03
Yeah, I'm not great with the way that Jeremiah's mother spelled
58:07
his name, but I'm not going to lower him any lower.
58:11
You also mentioned that last year with Jackson Dart, so.
58:14
Yeah, that's the most Utah name I've ever seen.
58:17
And I know a lot of our listeners don't understand what
58:19
that means, but I promise you, it's it's accurate.
58:22
It's dead on accurate. OK, all right.
58:29
Well, if you guys don't have anything else and we're going to
58:32
wrap it up. So next week we will be scouting
58:34
the players that are ranked 19th through 24th on the ESPN Top 50
58:39
Big Board. But that's all we got time for
58:41
on our episode today. And as always, guys, don't
58:44
forget to keep your balls played with.
58:46
We'll see you next time. Bye now y'all.
58:48
Also, Mark Davis and Sarah Kyle still sucks.