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Speaker 1: At first glance, they lead entirely normal lives, but in
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Speaker 1: reality they are women killers, men who murder women. In
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Speaker 1: the United States, Ted Bundy, a charming single man who
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Speaker 1: buries his victims in the woods.
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Speaker 2: I'll plead not guilty right now.
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Speaker 1: In South Africa, Moses Sitaul. He promises women jobs and
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Speaker 1: success and kills them.
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Speaker 2: This whole aread here we're scattered with bodies.
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Speaker 1: And in Canada, Robert Picton at his farm he throws
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Speaker 1: wild parties with a deadly climax.
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Speaker 3: They found thousands and thousands of DNA human DNA, and.
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Speaker 1: There are still more women killers. Their deeds are among
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Speaker 1: the greatest crimes of all time. The Green River in
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Speaker 1: the northwestern United States a beloved vacation destination for families
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Speaker 1: from nearby Seattle, But in the summer of nineteen eighty two,
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Speaker 1: the idyllic river transforms into a grave. While on a
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Speaker 1: bicycle ride, two children find a strangled girl under the bridge.
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Speaker 1: She is just sixteen years old. Sue Peters is one
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Speaker 1: of the lead detectives on the Green River case. She
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Speaker 1: realizes rather quickly that all this is just the beginning
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Speaker 1: of something bigger.
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Speaker 4: As my partner and I were walking along the shoreline,
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Speaker 4: heading down towards the river. Along this bank, we discovered
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Speaker 4: another female's body deep in.
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Speaker 1: The brush again, a sixteen year old girl. She's been
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Speaker 1: missing for three days. And then Detective Peters finds even
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Speaker 1: more female corpses.
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Speaker 4: Finding three bodies in one day made us realize that
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Speaker 4: we had a very serious problem and probably a serial
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Speaker 4: killer on our hands in our local area.
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Speaker 1: The bodies all are of runaways or prostitutes. No one
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Speaker 1: suspects that a seemingly harmless family man is behind the murders.
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Speaker 1: His name Gary Ridgeway, and he has a signature all
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Speaker 1: his own.
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Speaker 3: The murders of a serial killer will often get special
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Speaker 3: components to them that are unique to that case.
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Speaker 5: In his victims, Ridgeway put rocks into their vaginas, presumably
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Speaker 5: in a way to sort of keep someone else out
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Speaker 5: for his later desires, his later attempts, his later commissions
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Speaker 5: of necrophilia.
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Speaker 1: Sue Peter still suspects none of this. First search parties
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Speaker 1: comb the entire river basin. They discover the blouse of
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Speaker 1: one of the victims and sperm residue which they freeze
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Speaker 1: today helpful pieces of evidence. But in the mid nineteen eighties,
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Speaker 1: the police have no chance of catching the culprit this way.
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Speaker 3: The police in those early times didn't have a technique
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Speaker 3: for linking individuals, so certainly.
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Speaker 6: Remember going back to that time frame, our ability of
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Speaker 6: actually collecting and analyzing trace amounts of evidence was on
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Speaker 6: you know, didn't really exist.
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Speaker 1: A half year and seven female corpses later, the inhabitants
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Speaker 1: in and around Seattle are frightened who will be the
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Speaker 1: next victim. For the time being, there's only one thing
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Speaker 1: Sue Peter's and her colleagues can do. Keep a broad
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Speaker 1: area along the river's course under surveillance. But the killer
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Speaker 1: reacts and chooses a new scene for his crimes. The
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Speaker 1: detectives find the next body twenty kilometers away from the river.
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Speaker 4: The new strategy was that he drove out to the
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Speaker 4: outskirts of King County and dumped the bodies of the
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Speaker 4: victims in the forested area.
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Speaker 1: Like this, the murderer is careful in choosing the locations
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Speaker 1: where he leaves the bodies. The corpses are supposed to
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Speaker 1: remain undiscovered for several days. Only this way can he
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Speaker 1: indulge his sick impulses.
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Speaker 5: He would re visits crime scenes just to go back
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Speaker 5: and have sex with his victims again.
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Speaker 7: It could have been for different reasons. On the one
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Speaker 7: hander could have been because he doesn't want to yet
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Speaker 7: go out and find a new victim, so it's a
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Speaker 7: second choice substitute.
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Speaker 8: To relive the event.
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Speaker 7: Or he could have had some general sexual preference for
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Speaker 7: engaging with sexual behavior with deceased people.
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Speaker 1: The killer is willing to drive further and further the
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Speaker 1: chance of catching him in the act fades. Just about
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Speaker 1: all the victims were prostitutes, so detectives Suit Peters and
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Speaker 1: her team search for suspects along Pacific Highway South Seattle's
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Speaker 1: street walking scene in the eighties.
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Speaker 7: They are very easy to be targeted because of that
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Speaker 7: lifestyle that they're involved in.
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Speaker 3: They were available on the highway that he went up
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Speaker 3: on down in his truck. He would see them there.
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Speaker 3: He knew they were there, and once they were off
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Speaker 3: the street, he knew that he had them secure.
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Speaker 1: The number of victims continues to rise pressure on the
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Speaker 1: detective's months, but Ridgway's cover is good.
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Speaker 6: So often, like many serial killers, the reason that they're
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Speaker 6: successful is that they blend into society, much like Gary
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Speaker 6: Ridgway did.
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Speaker 3: He was a man who was a church going family
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Speaker 3: man who had some difficulties in his private life, but
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Speaker 3: held down a job and was, to all intents and purposes,
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Speaker 3: quite normal.
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Speaker 1: After a few months, the police work with the street
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Speaker 1: walker's pays off. A pimp reports the prostitute, Marley Marvar missing.
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Speaker 1: She's eighteen years old. She had gotten in a pickup
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Speaker 1: truck and was never seen again. The owner of the truck,
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Speaker 1: Gary Ridgeway, for the first time the Green River Killer,
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Speaker 1: comes to the attention of Sue Peters.
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Speaker 4: Mister Ridgway told the police that uninvolved in the incident
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Speaker 4: and did not pick up any girl on the highway. Remember,
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Speaker 4: the officer knew Gary Ridgeway from school, so it didn't
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Speaker 4: do much.
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Speaker 1: Shortly thereafter, the police formed the Green River Task Force.
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Speaker 1: They discover a shoe print size eleven and another remote
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Speaker 1: crime scene. The killer must know the area. A few
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Speaker 1: months later, Ridgeway again comes to the attention of police.
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Speaker 1: He offers an undercover policewoman money for sex. There's no
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Speaker 1: evidence that he's also the killer. That the noose is
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Speaker 1: tightening around his neck.
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Speaker 4: Gary Ridgeway ended up picking up another girl that he
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Speaker 4: was going to date and they went to a wooded area.
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Speaker 4: The girl ended up biting his privates and they got
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Speaker 4: into a scuffle and she was able to get away.
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Speaker 1: Detectives question Ridgeway, but he stays as cool as ice
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Speaker 1: and even insists on taking a lie detect to test.
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Speaker 3: A polygraph test is a test for certain physiological reactions.
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Speaker 3: If you don't have any guilt, you're not going to
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Speaker 3: get the increase in your heart rate or your breathing
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Speaker 3: that would be associated with normal guilt.
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Speaker 1: Sue Peter's task force puts Ridgeway at the top of
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Speaker 1: their list of suspects, but she can't prove anything.
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Speaker 4: This was Gary Ridgway's house back in the nineteen eighties
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Speaker 4: time period, and he would actually bring women back here
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Speaker 4: that he was dating and ended up murdering them there.
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Speaker 1: Then, two years and about thirty bodies later, the series
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Speaker 1: of murders seems to stop. Sue Peters and her team
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Speaker 1: find a few more dead women, but none who are
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Speaker 1: being killed recently. The police search Ridgway's house in nineteen
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Speaker 1: eighty seven. They even call in the FBI, but the
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Speaker 1: killer leads an inconspicuous life.
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Speaker 4: He was in our radar several times, but there wasn't
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Speaker 4: enough evidence to arrest him.
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Speaker 1: In the following years, detectives find ten more bodies but
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Speaker 1: no evidence until a brown new method of investigation changes everything,
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Speaker 1: DNA analysis.
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Speaker 3: The analysis of DNA is now an incredibly powerful tool
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Speaker 3: for the police, not just for modern cases, but for
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Speaker 3: cold cases, for cases where there is material still left
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Speaker 3: in unsolved crimes.
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Speaker 1: This gives investigators a new chance. They compare Ridgeway's saliva
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Speaker 1: sample with old pieces of evidence a match. They arrest
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Speaker 1: him in the parking lot where he works. At first,
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Speaker 1: Ridgeway seems to admit to the murders.
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Speaker 9: Presently out of the influence of any drugs, alcohol or medications.
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Speaker 1: No, how do you plead to the charge of aggravated
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Speaker 1: murder for the death of Almah A Smith?
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Speaker 10: Guilty?
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Speaker 1: But he only admits to six murders. Ridgway wants to
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Speaker 1: avoid the death penalty. Only when the police guarantee this
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Speaker 1: does he speak. The killer shows no remorse whatsoever for
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Speaker 1: the women he has killed.
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Speaker 5: When you have so many victims like Ridgeway, I think
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Speaker 5: it's impossible not to argue that there was a level
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Speaker 5: of objectification going on here where he was seeing the
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Speaker 5: woman the victims as objects, as objects specifically for his
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Speaker 5: sexual desire, for sexual purposes and nothing else.
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Speaker 7: He might even enjoy the fact that he gets the
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Speaker 7: attention from a trial because now he's again the center stage.
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Speaker 7: He gets to see the pictures of what he's done,
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Speaker 7: He gets to hear about the suffering of his victims,
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Speaker 7: and that again might be a secondary pleasure for him
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Speaker 7: to go through that process.
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Speaker 1: Also, investigators accept the deal and Gary reach Way admits
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Speaker 1: to more murders once he refers to forty eight victims
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Speaker 1: once to seventy one.
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Speaker 4: I believe most definitely there still are some bodies in
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Speaker 4: the forest. There have been a lot of women that
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Speaker 4: are still missing in King County and their remains have
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Speaker 4: never been recovered.
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Speaker 1: Ultimately, the court convicts Gary Hridgeway for the murder of
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Speaker 1: forty nine women. Thanks to his deal, the killer has
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Speaker 1: managed to avoid the death penalty, but the Green River
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Speaker 1: killer will remain behind bars for the rest of his life.
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Speaker 1: For Sue Peters, this sentence is the end of a
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Speaker 1: twenty year chase.
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Speaker 4: It was a relief to me and knowing that Gary
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Speaker 4: Ridgeway would never heard any of the ladies in our
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Speaker 4: community again.
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Speaker 1: For people around Seattle, a new chapter in life begins,
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Speaker 1: a life without fear of Gary Ridgeway. But there are
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Speaker 1: more of them. Women killers. Generally, they cause widespread fear
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Speaker 1: and panic for years, and their acts are among the
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Speaker 1: worst crimes of all time. South Africa, Johannesburg, nineteen ninety
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Speaker 1: five people are in an uproar. The reason forty rapes
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Speaker 1: and thirty eight murders in only one year.
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Speaker 2: This whole area here was scattered with bodies. And it's
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Speaker 2: the place you weren't for getto the.
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Speaker 1: Victims or young women.
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Speaker 7: What some victims he would do is allow them to
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Speaker 7: pass out and then stop straining them so they would
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Speaker 7: revive by themselves, and then continue to strangle them.
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Speaker 1: Their killer Moses sit holder, I say, I'm back. How
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Speaker 1: do investigators catch the brutal woman killer? At a Ridgeville,
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Speaker 1: a township north of Johannesburg, The inhabitants are largely Black
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Speaker 1: African and poor. In July nineteen ninety four, Captain vinol
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Speaker 1: Vinhula is called to a nearby field. What he sees
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Speaker 1: here is truly shocking, even for an experienced investigator.
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Speaker 2: We found a female deceased did by Manuel's sangulation. We
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Speaker 2: also saw that pants were taken off, thinking that most
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Speaker 2: probacy was as well. It saddens one a person when
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Speaker 2: you find a body, not knowing why that person was killed.
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Speaker 1: The young woman is the first victim of the thirty
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Speaker 1: year old killer Moses Citole, and he's just begun from
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Speaker 1: now on. Investigators find a new victim every month, all
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Speaker 1: of them female, Black African and between nineteen and thirty
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Speaker 1: years of age.
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Speaker 7: Stranglation is seen to be the most common method, at
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Speaker 7: least in South Africa. It's a very personal and very
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Speaker 7: close way of killing the victims.
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Speaker 6: The overarching goal for most of these guys is the
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Speaker 6: issue of controlling and power for them, controlling their victims,
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Speaker 6: controlling their lives, controlling their destinies.
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Speaker 7: And I think that was the case with Stole, because
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Speaker 7: what some victims he would do is allow them to
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Speaker 7: pass out and then stop strangling them so they would
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Speaker 7: revive by themselves, and then continue to strangle them.
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Speaker 1: Each woman dies according to the exact same.
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Speaker 2: Pattern that indicated to us that I see a killer
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Speaker 2: was busy in this area and we had to get
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Speaker 2: hold of him and apprehend him as quick as possible
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Speaker 2: before more.
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Speaker 10: Victims. Was part of his crime.
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Speaker 1: Investigators have an initial profile. They know that the killer
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Speaker 1: strangles the women and his victims are poor. They search
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Speaker 1: for more evidence in the victims millieure, but no one
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Speaker 1: has noticed anything.
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Speaker 3: For the police investigation. It must be very frustrating to
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Speaker 3: know there is a killer, to have so much information
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Speaker 3: but not to be able to identify the one person.
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Speaker 7: And a fresh victim, said as it may be, can
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Speaker 7: often give you that little piece of information that's going
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Speaker 7: to lead you to actually solve in the case, but.
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Speaker 1: The police do not want it to come to that.
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Speaker 1: The mid nineteen nineties or a boom period in South Africa,
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Speaker 1: many unemployed women move from the town into the city
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Speaker 1: in order to earn money from family members. Captain Vin
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Speaker 1: Huler knows that the women always go missing during the day,
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Speaker 1: mostly in busy places. Investigators suspect that the killer offers
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Speaker 1: the women a job, thus luring them into his trap.
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Speaker 8: He was very charming.
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Speaker 7: He was a very good, smooth talker, very believable, quite
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Speaker 7: a good looking guy. So most people that he approached
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Speaker 7: didn't sense him as a threat.
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Speaker 1: The women never come back.
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Speaker 2: I believed in him because of their innocence, and that's
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Speaker 2: the reason why they followed him and they got killed.
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Speaker 2: It's terrible, it's grison. It's not the way that anybody
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Speaker 2: wants to die.
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Speaker 1: A little later, more murdered women in nearby Cleveland. First
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Speaker 1: it was one body every month. Now the killer strikes
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Speaker 1: more often, first every two weeks, then every week, and
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Speaker 1: soon two times a week.
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Speaker 3: All serial killers fantasize about the perfect murder, the murder
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Speaker 3: that fulfills all of their fantasies. But if you don't
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Speaker 3: achieve your perfect murder, then there's a desire to do
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Speaker 3: it again.
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Speaker 1: By July nineteen ninety five, one year after the first murder,
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Speaker 1: Moses Sitoler has strangled eighteen young women to death. The
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Speaker 1: police decide to go public with this story, and indeed,
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Speaker 1: shortly thereafter comes a crucial call. After the murders in
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Speaker 1: Alteridgeville and Cleveland, the civilian reports several bodies in Boksburg.
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Speaker 1: Sithold gets the name the ABC killer. In September nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety five, Captain Vinhuler arrives at the worst crime scene
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Speaker 1: of the investigation so far, only twenty kilometers away from
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Speaker 1: johannes Burg.
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Speaker 2: This whole area here we're scattered with bodies and It's
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Speaker 2: a place you won't forget in your life. It lets
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Speaker 2: you feel like cry for some of that that lost
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Speaker 2: the laves and then living in other people in a
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Speaker 2: person for giving a job or promising a job to
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Speaker 2: assist to get a job and then end up did.
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Speaker 1: Vin Hula finds the bodies of fourteen women, all strangled.
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Speaker 8: So it's very very difficult.
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Speaker 3: A lot of pressure was on and Nelson Mandela himself
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Speaker 3: came to one of the townships to ask the people
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Speaker 3: in the township to help the police to solve the crime.
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Speaker 1: The Black African community stages increasingly frequent protests and demands
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Speaker 1: that the murders get finally solved. Captain Binhula wants justice
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Speaker 1: for the people, and indeed he finds a crucial piece
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Speaker 1: of evidence when researching one of the victims. Trifina is
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Speaker 1: a social worker in the Kids Haven Youth Center and
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Speaker 1: mentions a job offer the day before.
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Speaker 2: A friend of one of the deceased ladies were found here.
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Speaker 2: We interviewed the lady and she provided us with the
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Speaker 2: name of Moses Itoi. We managed to get a photo
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Speaker 2: of him and through his records to identify and.
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Speaker 1: The photo of Moses Sitoli appears in the press. Nation
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Speaker 1: the police search intensively and try to find out more
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Speaker 1: about the alleged killer. Moses Sitoule grew up the fourth
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Speaker 1: child in a poor family. As a young boy, he
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Speaker 1: is abused by his mother and his stepsister, traumatizing experiences
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Speaker 1: which the woman killer never forgets, as he himself later says.
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Speaker 5: And I thought to myself, the fuck does this woman
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Speaker 5: know what she's doing?
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Speaker 10: In behind?
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Speaker 1: She's making the crap. When his father dies, Moses Sitole
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Speaker 1: is sent to a juvenile home twice. He runs away
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Speaker 1: and goes back to his own house that no one
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Speaker 1: wants him there anymore.
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Speaker 6: It's true, they can't do anything for Moses. He had
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Speaker 6: a very difficult childhood. He had a very domineering mother.
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Speaker 7: He felt that woman from literally from birth, had rejected him,
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Speaker 7: punished him. Here, he says, there was a false allegation
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Speaker 7: and conviction for her, and was then that he decided
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Speaker 7: I'm going to go.
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Speaker 8: Out and wasn't murdered woman.
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Speaker 1: The young man must make it on his own in
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Speaker 1: a time in which violence reigns on the streets. Stole
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Speaker 1: quickly notices that many women find him attractive.
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Speaker 7: And totally she must think quite I'm okay, hands up it.
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Speaker 1: But insight unless I tell, I'll show. Summer nineteen ninety five,
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Speaker 1: after over a year of killing, Sitole gets over confident.
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Speaker 1: He calls a newspaper and brags about the murders.
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Speaker 6: I think clearly for Moses to totally that the issue
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Speaker 6: of being known for these crimes, it increases his self
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Speaker 6: worth in his own eyes.
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Speaker 1: But the killer makes a crucial mistake. He gives away
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Speaker 1: information about his location during the telephone call.
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Speaker 2: Some of my black members were placed at a factory
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Speaker 2: to have observation for him. Were as whites, were further away,
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Speaker 2: because if you see us as whites, he would have
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Speaker 2: been suspicious. He did pitch my members dead approaching. When
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Speaker 2: he saw them, he started running away. They followed him.
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Speaker 2: He turned around, took out a machette and started acting
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Speaker 2: to them. Then he got shot in the stomach, arrested,
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Speaker 2: and then transported to hospital.
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Speaker 10: It was the best of our lives. Wis factory. We
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Speaker 10: now we have no more.
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Speaker 2: Murders can't take place anymore. He was inside.
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Speaker 1: Sito is finally in custody. He is indicted five days
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Speaker 1: after his arrest. The trial lasts one year. Little by little,
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Speaker 1: peace is restored to the population. Even though no one
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Speaker 1: knows how many women the killer truly has on his conscience.
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Speaker 10: I will say the total lot is counted. Understand it's
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Speaker 10: not It's a quod lesson for.
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Speaker 2: Lady samscut.
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Speaker 1: And you take note.
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Speaker 5: Can be serious with life, so.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, please.
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Speaker 1: On October the twenty first, nineteen ninety six, the court
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Speaker 1: finds Morses Sitola guilty of thirty eight murders and forty,
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Speaker 1: sentencing him to two four hundred and ten years in prison.
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Speaker 1: For Captain Vinhuler, it is the end of a chase
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Speaker 1: that lasted much too long, but was ultimately successful and
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Speaker 1: gives the relatives at least some satisfaction. But there are
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Speaker 1: also women killers who are active over a period of
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Speaker 1: many years. Their deeds are among the worst crimes of
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Speaker 1: all time.
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Speaker 2: I'm staying with the man I know best right now.
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Speaker 11: That's me.
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Speaker 1: Vancouver. A man kills dozens of women over six years.
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Speaker 1: It's the largest criminal investigation in Canada's history. Robert Picton
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Speaker 1: the Butcher of Canada.
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Speaker 6: The farm becomes a horror show.
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Speaker 3: They found thousands and thousands of DNA human.
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Speaker 1: DNA Detective Laurimoshnhur devotes his entire career to hunting the killer.
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Speaker 11: My first concern was, you know, did we have Was
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Speaker 11: he digging underground bunkers? Was he keeping women alive down there?
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Speaker 1: The case that rucks Canada to the core and even
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Speaker 1: today has not lost its grip. How could it all happen? Vancouver,
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. Detective Laurimoshenhur has only recently begun working
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Speaker 1: in the homicide division. His assignment is to find women
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Speaker 1: who have been reported missing.
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Speaker 11: So was my second day on the job investigating Vancouver's
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Speaker 11: missing women, and I got a tip, which was a
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Speaker 11: call to crime stoppers, and it said that a man
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Speaker 11: in Roberton who lived on a farm could be responsible
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Speaker 11: for the missing women. So right away I was excited
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Speaker 11: and I thought, this is the kind of tip that
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Speaker 11: I'm looking for.
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Speaker 1: The name Robert picton the first lead, but there are
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Speaker 1: hundreds of Pictons around Vancouver. So Detective Laurie Maschender tries
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Speaker 1: to find out more about the victims.
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Speaker 11: I wanted to find out first of all, how many
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Speaker 11: women we were actually dealing with, and were there women
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Speaker 11: missing that we weren't aware of. And I also make
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Speaker 11: contact with all of the family members on each file
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Speaker 11: who have reported them missing.
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Speaker 1: What Shenher discovers is striking. Seventeen of the missing women
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Speaker 1: come from the city's red light district and drug neighborhood,
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Speaker 1: the first lead. While Detective Shenher searches for clues, more
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Speaker 1: and more women fall into the hands of Robert Picton.
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Speaker 1: The farmer regularly engages prostitutes. His tastes are extreme, and
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Speaker 1: he knows that prostitutes are easy. Pray.
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Speaker 3: They weren't really concerned with this group of the population.
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Speaker 3: They may have noticed it, but it was another prostitutor.
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Speaker 6: She probably wasn't murdered. She's just moved on to some
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Speaker 6: other place.
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Speaker 1: The detective Laurie Machine here believes that there is more
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Speaker 1: behind the disappearances.
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Speaker 11: You know, it was really difficult to get people to
27:39
Speaker 11: believe that something sinister might have happened to them. I
27:44
Speaker 11: suspected strongly it was a serial killer. For the number
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Speaker 11: one reason, we weren't finding anybodies. We were not finding bodies.
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Speaker 1: The detective tries to prove that a woman killer is
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Speaker 1: at work, but even Detective Shenhair doesn't really know what
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Speaker 1: Picton does exactly on a regular basis. The farmer takes
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Speaker 1: the prostitutes home with him. He throws wild parties at
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Speaker 1: his pig farm that go to dawn. Hardly any of
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Speaker 1: the girls leave the place alive. Meanwhile, Detective Lorima Shenhair
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Speaker 1: searches for evidence to support his theory. He wants to
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Speaker 1: locate the anonymous caller, and he's successful. Shenhair manages to
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Speaker 1: trace the number. After weeks of convincing, the man who
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Speaker 1: calls himself Bill his Cocks, agrees to meet at a Starbucks.
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Speaker 11: We're tak him to a Starbuck. I went in and
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Speaker 11: got a coffee and we sat in the car and talked.
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Speaker 11: He didn't want to be seen with the police, and
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Speaker 11: he told that he had a friend who'd seen bloody
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Speaker 11: clothing and bags in the Picton trailer and women's ID
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Speaker 11: and that this woman thought that this this stuff belonged
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Speaker 11: to potentially some of the missing women from Vancouver.
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Speaker 1: The informant is scared and disappears again right away, but
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Speaker 1: his information leads Shin Heir to a pig farm in
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Speaker 1: Port Coquitlam. It belongs to the biggest and richest farmer
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Speaker 1: in the region, Robert Picton, a man with powerful friends.
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Speaker 11: I drove around the property on the outside to have
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Speaker 11: a look around. And it was really obvious to me
29:51
Speaker 11: that it was not a very welcoming place. And you know,
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Speaker 11: I have expected some guy to come couch with a
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Speaker 11: shotgun and rack the shot gun at me or something.
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Speaker 11: It was really inhospitable.
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Speaker 1: Schnher quickly discovers that Picton's home is more than your
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Speaker 1: average farm. Once a week, the farm of those very
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Speaker 1: special parties, so called piggy Palace good times parties.
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Speaker 3: He was able to buy friendship with drugs and with alcohol,
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Speaker 3: and all of these things combined together to make him
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Speaker 3: feel a much better.
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Speaker 1: Person that Picton's farm. Government officials party together with Hell's
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Speaker 1: angels and prostitutes.
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Speaker 11: I think there were two types of parties. There were
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Speaker 11: the sort of above board community parties where you would
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Speaker 11: see local politicians, police officers, other people in government. But
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Speaker 11: there were also sex parties and a lot of drugs,
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Speaker 11: a lot of alcohol, and you know, I think a
30:58
Speaker 11: lot of times the things that happened at those parties
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Speaker 11: weren't necessarily things that everybody was consenting to.
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Speaker 1: Shn Hare is certain the powerful party guests are the
31:09
Speaker 1: reason that no one is talking. Even his requests for
31:13
Speaker 1: a search warrant are rejected again and again.
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Speaker 11: Trying to find somebody who was willing to talk and
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Speaker 11: go on the record. You know, there were even people
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Speaker 11: who worked for the RCMP who knew various people who
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Speaker 11: were coming to these parties, but they didn't want to
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Speaker 11: talk about it.
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Speaker 1: The detective tries to find out more about the mysterious
31:32
Speaker 1: farmer who seems to be protected from on high.
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Speaker 5: Ora Picton is the kind of person who you would
31:39
Speaker 5: describe as a social outcast. He was made fun of
31:42
Speaker 5: his school, and he lived on a farm with pigs,
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Speaker 5: and his best friends were alleged to be the animals.
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Speaker 1: The farm has been in the Picton family for generations.
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Speaker 1: As a child, Robert Picton already slaughtered and butchered pigs regularly.
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Speaker 3: His one real skill, the thing that he actually excelled in,
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Speaker 3: was butchering animals.
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Speaker 1: Early on, the Future Killer learns from his mother human
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Speaker 1: beings are only animals.
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Speaker 3: His mother was a very dominant, tyrannical lady who clearly
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Speaker 3: was the prime force in his childhood parer.
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Speaker 1: When Picton's mother dies, the Butcher of Canada gives free
32:28
Speaker 1: reign to his impulses.
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Speaker 5: The satisfaction and sense of control that he was missing.
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Speaker 5: He was getting this from his interaction with prostitutes and
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Speaker 5: his killing of prostitutes.
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Speaker 6: It was really a win win situation. One he gets
32:42
Speaker 6: these victims, he gets to enjoy them, kill them with them,
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Speaker 6: engage with them, and then when he's done, he doesn't
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Speaker 6: have to worry about Okay, now what do I do
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Speaker 6: with the body? I have to transport at someplace and
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Speaker 6: dump it right here. He had a ready made way
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Speaker 6: to get rid of the victims.
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Speaker 1: Picton feeds the bodies to his pigs, a story so
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Speaker 1: incredible that no one is willing to believe it. Meanwhile,
33:09
Speaker 1: thirty women from around Vancouver have gone missing. Detective schen
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Speaker 1: Hair Despairs has nightmares, can't let go. Then the case
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Speaker 1: has taken away from him.
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Speaker 11: When my Spirits made the decision to pass the file on,
33:24
Speaker 11: I really felt two different ways.
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Speaker 10: I felt.
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Speaker 11: On the one hand, I felt like a failure because
33:29
Speaker 11: I was sobernt out and I've been wearing so many hats.
33:33
Speaker 11: I felt there is a possibility I'd made mistakes and
33:37
Speaker 11: that I'd missed things. And I felt maybe somebody who
33:39
Speaker 11: came in with fresh eyes might see something that I
33:42
Speaker 11: didn't see.
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Speaker 1: But little happens for a whole year. Women continue to
33:48
Speaker 1: go missing until a civilian reports something suspicious and encounters
33:54
Speaker 1: a policeman who knows nothing at all about Picton's connections.
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Speaker 3: A guy driving a truck had been up to his farm,
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Speaker 3: had seen many weapons at the farm and mentioned this
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Speaker 3: to the police, and the police then decided that they
34:12
Speaker 3: would go and have a look and see what was
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Speaker 3: going on at the farm.
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Speaker 6: When they finally do focus on them that the farm
34:19
Speaker 6: becomes a horror show.
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Speaker 1: Police find not only non registered weapons, but also an
34:26
Speaker 1: asthma inhala bearing the name of one of the missing women.
34:30
Speaker 1: The decisive term for an entire year, the official search
34:35
Speaker 1: the property, dig the whole thing up.
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Speaker 6: You know, in this dirty, sloppy, messy, stinky pig farm.
34:43
Speaker 6: You're now trying to find literally one hundred plus victims.
34:48
Speaker 6: Within that very very difficult.
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Speaker 3: Task, they found thousands and thousands of DNA human DNA.
34:58
Speaker 1: For Lauri Mashen. Here this is ultimately a kind of success,
35:03
Speaker 1: but mostly it is just a punch in the gut.
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Speaker 11: If we could have searched this area when we first
35:11
Speaker 11: got the Lynn Ellison tip, there's no question in my
35:15
Speaker 11: mind we would have saved between thirteen and seventeen women.
35:19
Speaker 1: Even today, it's not entirely clear how many women Robert
35:23
Speaker 1: Pitton lured to his farm and killed. He himself said
35:27
Speaker 1: that his girl was the Big five zero fifty murders.
35:31
Speaker 1: The sentence comes five years later, life in prison for
35:36
Speaker 1: only six proven murders for Detective Shenhir, A frustrating sentence
35:41
Speaker 1: that has come far too late.
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Speaker 11: What small bit of vindication I felt, you know, was
35:48
Speaker 11: in being because I was right and I knew all
35:51
Speaker 11: along that it was him. It was completely overshadowed by
35:55
Speaker 11: that sense of devastation, And you know, it's hard to
36:00
Speaker 11: explain a feel what it feels like to say I
36:03
Speaker 11: was in shock for something that I expected every day
36:06
Speaker 11: was going to happen.
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Speaker 1: Kickton is finally behind bars, but after this case, Detective
36:12
Speaker 1: shn Hair loses his faith in justice and he quits
36:18
Speaker 1: in the United States. Arguably the worst woman killer of
36:22
Speaker 1: all commits his monstrous deeds. Ted Bundy, I'll plead not
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Speaker 1: guilty right now. For a long time, even one of
36:30
Speaker 1: America's top investigators cannot stop him.
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Speaker 10: I believe he didn't have a conscious about what he
36:37
Speaker 10: was doing.
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Speaker 1: A charming killer who slays his victims and buries them
36:41
Speaker 1: in the woods, and smile means death for more than
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Speaker 1: thirty women. Well, how do investigators manage to catch this
36:56
Speaker 1: woman killer? Summer nineteen seventy four, at some amish lake
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Speaker 1: near Seattle, people are enjoying the weekend. One of them
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Speaker 1: an attractive, friendly man with his arm in a sling,
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Speaker 1: Ted Bundy.
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Speaker 5: A classic psychopath is someone who is quite intelligent, who
37:22
Speaker 5: is charming, who has easy acts.
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Speaker 8: To victims, blurring the unsuspecting victims.
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Speaker 7: Just as much about power and control as is your
37:30
Speaker 7: physical domination.
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Speaker 8: While you're busy assault in killing.
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Speaker 1: Appers, Ted Bundy asks young women for help with his
37:36
Speaker 1: boat and lures them to the river bank, and he
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Speaker 1: beats the girls to death. Detective Robert Keppel is one
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Speaker 1: of the most famous investigators in the US. The hunt
37:50
Speaker 1: for Ted Bundy marks his life to this day.
37:54
Speaker 10: He appeared to be the good looking guy that.
38:00
Speaker 9: Buddy's girlfriend would want a date, and some of the
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Speaker 9: women that he chose were just outstanding.
38:09
Speaker 1: Bundy strikes twice on this day. First he carries off
38:13
Speaker 1: twenty three year old Jannis A. Mott, and then he
38:16
Speaker 1: flirts with nineteen year old Denise marine Noslund.
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Speaker 6: And then boom, he would change that personality like a chameleon.
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Speaker 6: He would be the very nice, accommodating, friendly, good looking guy,
38:34
Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden he would turn into
38:36
Speaker 6: this monster.
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Speaker 1: For Bundy, it's about more than just killing.
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Speaker 9: Whereas a man who liked to have sex with dead bodies,
38:49
Speaker 9: so he was always talking about that. When I met
38:54
Speaker 9: with him the three times that I've interviewed him, he
38:57
Speaker 9: was very comfortable in talking about necrophilia.
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Speaker 7: It could be a way that he doesn't have to
39:02
Speaker 7: go out and get a new victim, yet he still
39:05
Speaker 7: prolongs the pleasure from that particular victim, although in a
39:08
Speaker 7: very gruesome manner.
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Speaker 5: These are all indicative of a person who does not
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Speaker 5: feel at all for what this person, or what used
39:17
Speaker 5: to be a person, might have gone through.
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Speaker 1: The families are desperate and report both girls missing. Two
39:27
Speaker 1: months later, a hunter finds human bones in the mountains,
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Speaker 1: only a few kilometers away from Sammamish Lake. Robert Keppel's
39:42
Speaker 1: hunt for Ted Bundy begins here and.
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Speaker 9: We were there for approximately a week, collecting bones that
39:49
Speaker 9: we found throughout the hillside.
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Speaker 10: Well.
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Speaker 9: We expanded our team from two of us to seven.
39:58
Speaker 9: We had one skull that we found where there were
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Speaker 9: skull fractures, so we knew what happened to that.
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Speaker 10: Lady.
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Speaker 1: Keppel immediately thinks of the missing girls, want the nazzleumt
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Speaker 1: but the bones alone don't bring him any further.
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Speaker 6: This was in the seventies. We weren't really engaged in
40:17
Speaker 6: that kind of forensic analysis. There wasn't any type of
40:21
Speaker 6: DNA analysis. We weren't even aware of DNA analysis.
40:25
Speaker 1: After days of searching, a first success, Kippel's team finds
40:30
Speaker 1: tufts of hair.
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Speaker 9: The one with the head damage had black hair, and
40:37
Speaker 9: there were blonde hair there along an animal trail. And
40:41
Speaker 9: what we did was get samples of their hair from
40:45
Speaker 9: their room, from their hair brushes from their bathrooms, and
40:50
Speaker 9: the blonde hair belonged to genocide.
40:55
Speaker 1: Who is the killer? The clue leads detective Keppel to
40:59
Speaker 1: see a university. Female students have been disappearing here recently,
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Speaker 1: almost all of them long haired and attractive.
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Speaker 6: A lot of the victims that he selected later on
41:16
Speaker 6: matched basically physically the description of this girlfriend that dumped him.
41:23
Speaker 5: He was trying to live out this interaction between him
41:26
Speaker 5: and his ex girlfriend, but in a way where he
41:28
Speaker 5: was in charge. He decided when it ended, and he
41:30
Speaker 5: decided the ultimate outcome.
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Speaker 1: Initially, the investigation comes to nothing. Then Robert Keppel and
41:38
Speaker 1: his team find the remains of eighteen year old Susan Ramcourt.
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Speaker 1: Friends of the university till of a young man on
41:48
Speaker 1: campus with his arm in a sling who approaches women,
41:52
Speaker 1: and it quickly grips college campuses. Security staff guard the students,
41:59
Speaker 1: and then the nightmare appears to be over. No more
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Speaker 1: mysterious man with his arm in a sling, no more
42:06
Speaker 1: missing women. See Hottle seems safe again, but Ted Dundy
42:12
Speaker 1: doesn't stop. He chooses a new hunting ground. Soon there
42:17
Speaker 1: are murders in the states of Oregon, Idaho, Utah, and Colorado.
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Speaker 3: He moved state, He moved to a place where he
42:28
Speaker 3: was unknown, and began again in the same manner.
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Speaker 6: Really, his victim selection type should have been something that
42:36
Speaker 6: jurisdictions keyed in on, but agencies in Washington didn't know
42:41
Speaker 6: what agencies in Utah were doing.
42:44
Speaker 1: Twenty four murders later, Bundy finally gets tripped up in
42:48
Speaker 1: a vehicle inspection. The policeman knows his description and arrests him.
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Speaker 7: Ted Bundy you know, when he studied at university for
42:55
Speaker 7: a period, he was very good looking, very well spoken.
42:58
Speaker 7: People just didn't expect that this would be the guy
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Speaker 7: committing his very boutle actes.
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Speaker 1: And the evidence is thin, no clues either of the
43:06
Speaker 1: university or in his former student residence. Nevertheless, the court
43:10
Speaker 1: indicts Bundy for murder. He decides to represent himself.
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Speaker 10: He was not a lawyer.
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Speaker 9: He had not graduated from university in law school at all.
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Speaker 10: He took law classes, that's all.
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Speaker 1: Bundy flees before the verdict is rendered. He's then quickly
43:33
Speaker 1: caught and breaks out again for Detective Robert Keppel. It's
43:39
Speaker 1: a bitter setback.
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Speaker 9: I was just amazed that they would allow him to
43:48
Speaker 9: escape twice. First time was one thing, the second time
43:54
Speaker 9: no excuse for.
43:57
Speaker 10: But that was Colorado authorities. They weren't that smart.
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Speaker 1: And the woman Killer makes it to Florida. There he
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Speaker 1: kills the students Liza Levy and Margaret Bowman and attacks
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Speaker 1: five girls with a wooden bludgeon.
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Speaker 3: He needed to kill someone, but he didn't have the
44:18
Speaker 3: time to plan his routes, and so it had to
44:21
Speaker 3: be a blitz attack to achieve what he wanted.
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Speaker 1: In Seattle. Robert Keppel reads in the newspaper about the
44:28
Speaker 1: murders in Florida, and he's sure it must be Bundy.
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Speaker 9: I did call her and reminded them of who he was,
44:39
Speaker 9: but the problem was they didn't care.
44:42
Speaker 10: Thanks for the information, and hung up the phone.
44:47
Speaker 1: Two weeks later, Bundy kills a child for the first time.
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Speaker 6: A twelve year old girl. I think for him was
44:55
Speaker 6: at a point when his world essentially was falling apart.
44:59
Speaker 6: He wasn't ted Bundy. The offending ted Bundy from earlier
45:03
Speaker 6: in his career.
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Speaker 1: Bundy gets snoppy again. He stopped by police and he's arrested.
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Speaker 10: Represent yourself. You're gonna get another attorney.
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Speaker 2: I'm staying with the man I know best right now,
45:18
Speaker 2: and that's me.
45:20
Speaker 1: But there's still no solid evidence. The case is entirely circumstantial.
45:28
Speaker 1: The killer is self assured.
45:33
Speaker 2: Mister b told me that you told him there you
45:35
Speaker 2: were going to get me.
45:36
Speaker 3: He said he was gonna get me.
45:37
Speaker 2: Okay, you've got the indictment. It's all you're gonna get.
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Speaker 8: Let's read it.
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Speaker 10: Let's go, Theodore Robert Bundy.
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Speaker 4: You were charged indictment two counts burglary and the two
45:49
Speaker 4: counts murder in the first degree, three counts attempted murder.
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Speaker 8: In the first degree. I'll plead not guilty right now.
45:57
Speaker 1: The no students believes he can know, overwhelmed the court
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Speaker 1: and the jewelry with his charm.
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Speaker 10: Right my name is.
46:11
Speaker 5: To commit a crime and then to believe that you're
46:14
Speaker 5: the best person, you're the most qualified person to defend yourself.
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Speaker 5: That's a level of arrogance that goes far beyond what
46:20
Speaker 5: most people would be willing to accept. But for a
46:23
Speaker 5: psychopathic narcissist, of course, you are your first choice.
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Speaker 1: It's Bundy's final decision. The court sentences him to death
46:32
Speaker 1: by electric chair. Before his execution, Bundy tries to stall
46:39
Speaker 1: by promising to confess more murders. Detective Robert Keppel sets
46:45
Speaker 1: off immediately for Florida.
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Speaker 10: Well, he wasn't in very good shape.
46:52
Speaker 9: He was sweating, he's out of breath.
46:58
Speaker 10: He had a lot of worry in his mind.
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Speaker 9: He did not want to talk about anything other than
47:10
Speaker 9: what he wanted to talk about.
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Speaker 3: He was always playing a game. He was always fishing
47:16
Speaker 3: and wanting to get some advantage. And the decision was
47:19
Speaker 3: that this was Ted Bundy playing games, and so they
47:23
Speaker 3: said no, thank you, You're to be executed.
47:27
Speaker 1: Ultimately, Bundy confesses to thirty murders. Investigators believe it was
47:33
Speaker 1: twice as many. After nine years on death row, the
47:39
Speaker 1: sentences finally carried out. The terror that Bundy spread is
47:44
Speaker 1: definitely over, and women are once again safe from the
47:50
Speaker 1: man who was arguably the USA's worst killer in killers,
48:01
Speaker 1: They've all murdered dozens of women brutally and paid for it.
48:08
Speaker 1: Three of them are now spending life behind bars, and
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Speaker 1: Ted Bundy is finally history.