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Man Licker: Rebel Moon, Zack Snyder James Bond & The Abyss · Multiple Nerdgasm

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so I've been at a hospital for just over a week now now how many cases would be would
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reasonable to have been drunk in that period let me also remind you Matt that
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Luke's wife is in another state right
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now oh [ __ ] welcome to multiple
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nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to all
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things things
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nerdy don't mean just the state of sobriety I mean another literal
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geographical State know I'm just asking what would be a reasonable amount of
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without supervision uh how many cases of beer is it reason well I just want to
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extrapolate because he came to my house on his first night out and drank eight
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seven um so I got I probably would have had eight so I drank four that I purchased
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and I stole one of yours or two of yours so okay that doesn't make eight but they
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were doubles so I think you've had too many
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already so if we assume that's your nightly
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quota yeah so what case 24 I mean I'd
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say I mean the actual answer is one at most oh I think that's the real answer
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oh that would be a reasonable oh okay I've done
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four but I've not been drunk I don't want to I mean not been so let's be that
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let's make that funny I don't also want to to encourage you to do that so you
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know no I think I'm gonna slow down a little bit while I sip this beer cut
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back to three what are you drinking aah is that what that is oh no this saporo
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oh saporo sorry they're on special mixed up but no I think it's just because yeah
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Home Alone holidays you were watching Home Alone yes on repeat you're like if
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I'm gonna if I'm going to look at mcy C I'm gonna want to be
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drunk I read a fact star yeah he got his star and it was very nice that was that
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was excellent he deserves it um he mly kin and therefore us because we were all
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born the same year except for Luke um is older now than the mom was in Home
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Alone that's funny that's a lot these days he does
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stuff with red letter media a bit now I don't know you I have seen it they're
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great he does stuff with Angry Video nerd too like he's he's just like
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[ __ ] put me in your internet YouTube seems cool yeah he played he sat and
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played home alone for the Nintendo with angry video game that's great oh I
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remember that game that game was hard yeah that's why he's like there's only
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one person that can help me get through this I did I never played the Nintendo
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one I played the sea Mega Drive one well knowing they were completely
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different games oh yes even they may been released on the same day but
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completely different games imagine if they did that now like you they said oh
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actually we decided Starfield will not be an XBox exclusive here's the
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PlayStation version It's just something else yeah completely different developer
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we just gave them the title Starfield and said go for it yeah now I do have to
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ask did anyone get any weird presents for
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Christmas I got quite a bit of Lego actually which is unusual for me because
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I just it's been years since but it just was the year of Lego I got three
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different Legos okay awesome I got some
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Legos I've got a tie bomber oh together
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I got I got a one Star Wars one I got a Trier in a mech suit which whilst not
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canon was still cool I've seen they are I also got a Ferrari to build and also
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Scrooge McDuck an actual Ferrari Scrooge McDuck yeah I got an actual Ferrari if I
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wanted if I was the size of a mini fig ask
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it's we'll find out right
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now is 355 because that's what I want
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well no it's the uh
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the 812 competi oh cool pretty nice I
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mean honestly I'd take any Ferrari if if there's a listener out there who got me
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one for Christmas and was like oh I didn't get him the f355 no no no it's
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fine I'll take yeah yeah yeah oh yeah it's the F40 oh I'll take it back I'll
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sore off this enormous wing on the back I
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F40 that's the worst the worst of them all that's the what I want no yeah I
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mean it's a classic look I saw I think it was um I can't remember
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what it was but it was navy blue with like a beige interior and I was like
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[ __ ] every other color now I want a blue one it was so nice is it you only do get
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a choice of the Colors oh yeah can't get like you can't change it they do have
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this thing called Ferrari labs and you can change almost anything but it costs
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millions of dollars yeah but when you buy a Ferrari you can't then go paint it
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and rock up at a car meat and go it's now purple poka dot you be ostracized
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from the community you may even be sued I think you signed something that says
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that you won't customize it they want you to keep them stock because there
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is I follow a lot of YouTubers who restore old ones and they paint them
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obviously but I guess that's yeah but they're not going to come after you for
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that but also if you're just an a nvo re you can't go into a Ferrari dealership
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and buy the newest Ferrari they say get a second MRE drive that for a year come
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back get an F40 drive that for 2 years then come back and we might sell you a new
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one is my end goal yeah you can get that right
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nowas now go ahead the reason why I brought up weird gift is because Hannah got me
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something okay okay so you know how I love Robotech yeah she managed to find me a
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robot tech toy and it is Rick Hunter
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it is Rick Hunter along with his 2020 Toyota
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Supra that is amazing that's amazing I actually am very fond of the Supra but
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yeah why is Rick with a toy little brother the gr86 but I can see why if
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Rick Hunter was going to drive a Japanese sports car it would definitely
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be the Supra of course it would but I don't in Australia
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that iware of su common in Australia oh they're not super common because they're
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[ __ ] expensive but um yeah yeah the 2023 Supra was beautiful but you know
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what it was Auto only they didn't release it as a manual and it's like the
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people who are buying Supras want a [ __ ] sh sh shff shff that's what Sean
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con would have called it after L did she get that from the Internet or did she
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find I think she got that from the internet okay cool that's pretty that's pretty
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neat maybe in Brisbane where she is now she is back now she got back yesterday
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okay okay did you get her something equally as weird I'm very curious now to
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find out well no I didn't get weird I got a pixel Ear Pod pods Pro things uh
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Bal Gate 3 and we went ax throwing oh
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how was that I'm surprisingly good at ax
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throwing I quite surprised ask her what she thinks I think she will agree cuz Luke
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claims to be surprisingly good at a lot of things so I like that his surprise though
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because when I try new things I just assume I'm going to be good at it till I
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found out that I'm not like when I went yeah I was going G shooting the one and only
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time well I I just assumed I'd be a great shot because I've been playing
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video games and watching movies with guns my whole [ __ ] life I am awful
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awful at it oh really I was surprisingly good at that as
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well I was very good at um laser Cay pigeon shooting at Panthers oh sure we
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School spot a school SP term and to the point where the lady thought I was
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cheating yeah and easy to cheat yeah but like I was like well how would I even
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cheat I don't I'm just Sho you would shoot the ones on the ground I guess no
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no no the cheating was in the front of it there was a blue tarp and if you shot
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the blue tarp that would register as a hit okay well I wasn't doing that I was
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sophisticated technology yeah that one I was surprisingly good at cheating at
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it's because it's got nothing it's just I just played a lot of Time Crisis
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probably that's what it is see Time Crisis I was quite good at but see
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that's the problem if I was say I join the military now right in Time Crisis
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you reload if you recall by shooting off to the side yes
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right so I'd be like running in oh [ __ ] I'm
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out really fire fire
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no also bullets don't just keep going in a straight line forever like lasers in
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these guns do or infrared whatever I used to play that the sniper game which
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that used to have drop in it allow for it that's cool oh that's interesting I
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remember that I Us in postal you know when you could get
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the sniper rifle in postal it would you just sit up there picking people off on
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the street that was that was really and then piss on them yeah and then rape
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them with rusty scissors if you recall that was also possible I think that's in
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the there were two versions of that game one that we had in Australia and one
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that we weren't supposed to have in Australia but we did yeah yeah and that
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wasn't in it that wasn't in that version that was in the version I played the
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pissing was speaking of speaking of things being removed from things
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uh okay just follow me down this did anyone get you anything weird for
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Christmas M no no no this is It's just reminded me of something I've got in
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here I thought it' be a good segue apparently not so uh the
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abyss yes oh yes I saw this yes uh is
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coming out exciting stuff love uh 4K re-release right coming coming soon yeah
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and this one uh not mangled by AI filters that apparently he's been doing
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recently he's been in that and ruining his movies so yeah not interested in
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that thanks but the um the abyss 4K
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release is not being released in the UK anymore because right I learned this and
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I thought this is interesting and this kind of goes down a bit of a rabbit hole
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or Rat Hole so to speak MH because it has a scene in it if you recall listen
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this with a mouse if you've seen the the rat where they're talking about how he
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you know they have that fluid it's oxygenated fluid that you can breathe
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yeah and demo they put a rat in it and they actually did it and they actually
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did they had oxygenated fluid and they put a rat in it actually five rats in
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total uh and I learned that they used five rats and uh and the reason that
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there are so many Cuts in the scene is because the rats kept um [ __ ]
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themselves out of oh fear out of Absol
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Fe breathing yeah yeah so uh that sucks but cuz you can't really explain to a
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rat like don't worry just be be calm relaxed it'll feel you a time that to me
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if you were going to just immerse me in water and say Just Breathe once you're
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under there yes so uh that scene uh was
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not allowed in the UK because they have very strict animal cruelty laws wow and
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they said that that's not acceptable that you did that and so all previous
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releases of the Abyss in the UK have had that scene
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removed which I didn't know uh and this time James karon said [ __ ] you not
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removing it oh I stand by the I stand by those rats they're
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fine you say like it was in a controlled environment yes they did Sho themselves
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but they they're all fine they didn't die they I mean I get it's not a nice
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thing to have done still exploitative though isn't it yes yeah but basically
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they'll just that's what they're doing in the actual testing for that flu real
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world as well like it's not a man did it almost died but he did it so it can be
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done I mean I just assumed that was a special effect and they literally just
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put in water and filmed until the rat died and then they yelled cut and got a
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new rat in and pretended to pull him out of it alive that's how they fil Milo noce I
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think all I've been told is like right we need one to go over the waterfall
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which one's the Expendable one many do you want to go oh Hannah's gonna [ __ ]
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kill you Luke if you don't shut up yeah I know I know I've turned it off now I'm
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sorry I'm sorry Hannah um but I also learned okay so
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obviously Ed Harris didn't have to breathe oxygenated water they didn't
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make him do that but I always thought in those scenes there's like you know
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filters on his helmet and all that kind of stuff or maybe like a thin layer that
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they filled with the liquid and he was behind there I assumed it was like those
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little bottles of milk you get for a for a kid where it looks like it's filling
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up and then tipping out yeah yeah no no they um they just filled his helmet with
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pink fluid and said okay try not to breathe and act act like you are
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breathing and he had to do wow for like the second for the last third of the
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movie well he's a hell of an actor yeah there's actually a really good
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documentary about what a [ __ ] nightmare it was to film that movie I do
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recall right because they're they're literally filming underwater and I think
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this is probably yes Cameron's First underwater movie right of of which there
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now is this what the one that he fell in love with with water I think yeah maybe well
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he'd already kind of gotten into it my body's 80% of
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this I want to return to it yeah um yeah no there's a a really good doco about it
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uh if I remember I'll put in the show notes um it's just on YouTube I think I
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saw it uh very interesting this is an excellent movie and I I watch it every
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few years because it's one of those classic underrated films which I as far
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as I know it was a decent hit when it came out but um it doesn't often get
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just mentioned when you're talking about even James Cameron's best movies you
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know yeah no it's really good it's got but excellent I think all of his movies
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have well not all of them when I think
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of like aliens and this and probably
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Terminator two maybe Terminator two more than oh no Terminator one as well yeah
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where at the end you sudden you think something's wrapping up and suddenly it
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just kind of [ __ ] goes off again like it ramps up again right at the end oh
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Terminator one definitely does that yeah yeah I just I just remember yeah but the
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car crashes and all that kind of stuff and then they get into the fact to also
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does it yeah it's a kind of was thing back a good example of that too Titanic
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think it's coming back up and do you think all this movies about a
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submarine's gone missing it's a nuclear sub their underwater thing and there's [ __ ]
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aliens yeah yeah that's right it's one
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of the best examples of using that Trope that is now well and truly overdone
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which is something weirds going on oh
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it's a submerged alien craft you know sure yeah
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yeah anyway great files also did a a few
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few one of them episodes in the third or fourth season where that was the case
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where I thought was a Russian uh nuclear sub went down and they went to retrieve
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it there also sequ
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dsv I think uh URI Geller uh was on that
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set wasn't he the on that sub yeah sorry
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being misted by Michael jaon
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story so yeah abys 4K not being released in the UK now you'll have to import
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yours from uh somewhere else if you're in the UK so he said you're not cutting
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it and they said well we're just not releasing it and then just nothing else
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happened after but that's not it's not as big a deal as it used to be so
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remember before when there was region locking everywhere and so if you
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couldn't get it now there's no region locking so if people really want it they
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just order it from overseas and they get it yeah is that true I'm not even sure I
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realized that because I never got into Blu-rays I'm pretty sure Blu-rays have Regent
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locks um XBox doesn't have region locking anymore players don't have
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region locking I think the Xbox does for Blu-rays I could be wrong correct me if
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I'm wrong but I think I think Blu-rays still have region locks I know the games
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don't the games definitely don't let's have a look here cuz I've
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I've ordered some overseas games to play because they don't get released in Australia
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yeah I've bought games overseas but you know some overseas places might be
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compatible and I'm just not even realizing Blu-ray titles have region
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coding similar to DVDs however instead of eight regions there are only three
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okay maybe just reded a lot more likely than not that you're getting something
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that's still within your region just have to make sure you get it from
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country that's in your region and pretty much the UK is we we're on the same
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region austr was in the same region wasn't it so easy we were four remember
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remember we were region four and America were region one that's all I yeah of
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course we were um but do you remember when they were [ __ ] all DVDs out here
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you know you could get Gladiator and like three others um region locking was
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[ __ ] pointless because you know you can't you can't I paid I paid $100 to
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get my original my first DVD player unlocked when I bought it cuz that was
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like do you want it unlocked we could do that had a little checky code you can pop in
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on the remote mine had I could I could change my region five times on it and then it
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would stay and then it would stay
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so the iMac that I had with a DVD player in it was the same you could change it
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back and forth only four times and then it would just remain on
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whatever but yeah I think games now aren't region locked they're just it's a
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game yeah maybe but how does that work with something like say Conan Exiles
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where you don't see the dicks in Australia you do see the dicks do you
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now you never used thing then it wouldn't matter because you'd still
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install the game and then it would go well you're in Australia no dick
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remember you didn't get the DI because you brought it in Singapore was that why
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well there you go but that's what I mean so what's what's the technology stopping
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there if it's not a region coding um it's because it was a it was a
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add- on that came with the game when you purchased it and because you brought in
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Singapore you didn't get that free add-on oh yeah maybe well what about
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what about South Park where Australia didn't get the version with the with the
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rapes y yep so that was 36 360 so I'm
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talking about new Xboxes I see so I just checked um physical games are all region
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fre on the Xbox but codes for games and subscriptions are L okay that makes
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sense yeah so if you bought a code on a site in another country might not work
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yeah you know I was thinking about an old Xbox One game H sorry not Xbox One
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first original Xbox game [ __ ] I actually knew what you stupid yeah right
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um uh Kung Fu Chaos it was one of my favorite Brawlers right yeah that was a
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great game to get drunk so fun yeah but I I heard it mentioned on another
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podcast that I listened to uh where they review old games and they
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weren't reviewing that but somebody mentioned that as just a fun brawler and
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the other guy was like have you when was the last time you played it he's like oh
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not good anymore and he's like no no no it's not that it's not good it's just
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that you're so aware that it's horribly horribly racist real it probably is
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yeah I mean the voice over in it is what you could only describe as the ching
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chong [ __ ] voice right yeah yeah you know done done by a white person
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presumably what do you call it like a rice hat maybe that's racist and yes
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what do you call it's not it's not racist for you to call it out I think
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it's that's what it is no no I just mean the name of the hat and I was like you
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know what I should I don't even know what they're called you're not going to
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know the Chinese name for the Hat no one I don't think anyone's expecting that it
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is it is somewhere it's in there somewhere but yes the last time we would
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have played this game would have been 20 years ago [ __ ] hell no exaggeration
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20 years ago we used to play live together how long we live together in
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New Town don't tell me it's 20 years cuz that's terrifying it probably it be 20
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since we started maybe slightly less since we finished because remember 20 years ago is
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2003 [ __ ] so I think you just moved in there and I think you moved out
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20067 well I mean tomorrow when the day after it's going to be 2024 so yes if it
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wasn't then then it certainly is 20 20 years now because when do we move into
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or I think it was 2004 [ __ ] I mean yeah
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2004 well that's you're
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old accidentally just started the music up somehow look while we're talking about
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Xbox there's a it says Luke gamerscore in the
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spread somehow I managed to do this without realizing it I um hit two
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million gamer score this week oh wow and I I thought I was going to hit it
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soonish like January February but I'm already like 2 mil
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111,000 wow that's impressive that is impressive it is I don't know what it
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gets me but I'm impressed by it I'm assuming mad and I aren't even at 1
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million I know I'm not I'm not at 100,000 I
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think I was at 30 or last time I
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checked I can tell you right now go Matt
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58,000 very decent better than I thought that's better than I and then where are
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you I'm hoping for 30 oh no sorry sorry sorry I was reading
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you no your actual gamer score score true Achi yeah y Matt yours is
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39,000 oh okay maybe I'm not hoping for 30 then and Dan yours is eight eight
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okay just shy of nine like 50 more and you're at 9,000 how do you even get
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eight achievement point eight 8,000 I know 8
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points and yeah I at 2 million and 11 2 million so I probably got more
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achievements this week than both you million a half 2 million1 2 million
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11,000 3 said and a half I'm like [ __ ] you way over not yet but I probably did
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get more this week than you guys got all
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year positive of that no I mean I barely played this year and I tend to play the
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same games over and over so you don't get more points more you play the same
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game no and I actually one quite proud of I completed Alan Wake to 100% as well
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100% very nice so got all the achievements in that as
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well I some achievements this week I got uh some Resident Evil 2 remake
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achievement o oh wait you're playing that on Xbox yeah oh nice I'm playing
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that on switch so they switch you've unlocked nine achievements on it so far
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there go I have and then I played some I tried to play some more Starfield did we
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talk about this already and I'm not playing anymore I'm going to go back to
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it just to mop up some achievements but I don't know it's just they went too
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big yeah probably I just that's probably I think and I think they could have got
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rid of space travel I don't know about that it's kind
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of the whole point of the game is that you're in a spaceship like yeah but yeah
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but okay so let's think about space games where the space travel did work
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right so obviously obviously there was yeah outer world is the one that comes
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to immediately to mind right where you actually SN man Sky
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snowman sky where you take off from a planet and literally fly through the
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atmosphere into orbit into space yeah or yeah out of world you just go take me to
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this planet and it does and that's you know you know that's which is fine they
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could have done that and stuff they could have done that that's what I mean
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they could have just done that yeah they should have done that yeah yeah I think
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if they cuz really the second you actually know where you're going you
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just fast travel anyway the space fighting is not really
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interesting travel in general take the [ __ ] boat scenes out of most
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Assassin's Creeds and I'll be more happy you know oh you got to go here not only
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do you have to sail there in real time but also other ship are going to try to
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[ __ ] smack into you I will admit I like the boat I do but I know what Dan's saying
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there was some in I played uh Origins recently and there's sometimes when you
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play as um by exwife I kind of think of her name yeah
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um uh but you play as her when she's helping out Cleopatra and it's like C
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stuff oh yes the game just grinds to a halt while you do get Pompei or
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something like that and then the little thing comes on and it's like 5,000 miles
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away and it's like and and literally nothing happens until you get there and
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all of a sudden all these ships come and it's like why did you make me do that
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yeah yeah oh yes you just get into that bay and there's just a billion ships
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there to fight you yeah I nearly finished put me there like speak assass
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Creed I've nearly finished the most recent one the Assassin Creed Mirage
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it's not good oh no I've heard it forgot about that which is uh it's not it's but
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it's not a full game though is it it it was originally intended to be it was
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originally intended to be DLC for Valla was it Valla the last one
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yeah yeah yeah but then they went no we'll fles it out so it's not it's not a
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it's not like they just sold DLC but it's not like a full full game see Vala
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you spend half your time in a boat but it's fine it's less tedious they didn't
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go okay you're in Norway now just [ __ ] row to England this one there is
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no travel to England and there's a cut scene but I'm I'm look I'm I'm looking
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forward to the next Assassin Creed this one just didn't grab me like the last
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two have like all last three really have Origins Odyssey and bajala they've all
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been great and then this one just open worlds this is remember when they did those those
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Sid scroll at Assassin's Creeds and they India China yeah the China One was very
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interesting and I I kind of wish they' done a full game on that because that's
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setting was was very interesting yeah they should do
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something like that like I guess I mean you know Egypt and and Greece are not
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yeah yeah feudal Japan would be cool ex
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Creed Australia sick Creed Australia good day
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mate where can I see the whole town from no what they should make is Fall Out
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Australia Australia and it's not in the future it's just set in the outback
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right now you guys watch the trailer for The
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Fallout show yes yeah it did yeah we haven't talked about that have we Luke
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and I chattered about it a little bit in person I'm I thought it looked bad
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really I can't tell honest I I honestly I couldn't tell from the trailer the tone of
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it was like oh yeah you I don't want Fallout in the TV show I think they they
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need to have the humor in it that's is going to very hard it's not a comedy
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it's not a comedy though yes that's the thing yeah I don't know but I was
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worried the first half of the trailer that there wasn't any humor in it at all
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and I was like no fallout's very funny but it's like ironically funny yeah but
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then in the end of the trailer that oh no don't worry this is a comedy and
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there were just jokes and I we don't want that either we want yeah a dramedy
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is that something like no you know what I just want Fallout five I don't want to
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show obsidian come back and make one of the in between ones like Fallout New Vegas
29:33
I'll be happy with that you know what REM P Out New Vegas so I can just play
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it again that'll be fine too someone from was it from obsidian I think
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whoever whoever the studio now that has the people that did New Vegas said that
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they approached Bethesda yeah said can we do something in between Fallout 4 and
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whatever you're going to do next we use the Fallout 4 engine because we've got
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some ideas and Bethesda said no also pitching for um Elder Scrolls as well
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like let us do inet yeah and let us do some more yeah I don't know why they
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said no because like New Vegas that people think New Vegas is
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better but that took time when that first came out people liked it but they
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weren't saying it was the best it was later on I think people started went now
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this is better well because Fallout 3 had the benefit of being the first 3D
30:26
Fallout and we're all like [ __ ] it's so good and then but it was so like and
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then New Vegas is like oh it's kind of the same but then when you yeah it felt
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like DLC more advanced like the story better but I would love to have that
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like you have your main ones and then you just have obsidian who do the games
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well because really a lot of the guys there created Fallout when they're back
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at interplay is
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it where there's those that town of
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slave kids that have escaped that you that are down underground and they get
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booted out when they turn 18 like that that could have been a gameing end of
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itself you know like that story was just so rich and it because and it had the
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you know the old man running the running New Vegas the guy inside the machine all
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that kind of stuff Caesar character you actually find out that he was the one
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who started the wall oh I forgot about all that yeah see
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now play that again should yeah but see don't just you got to play Fallout 3 if
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you're going to play that you want to lead into it suppose
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so Fallout 3 is amazing I've played it three times I think and the third time I
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worked out how to not ever go into the tunnels CU that was the only thing on
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the second play through I was like man you spend a lot of time Underground and
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the third time I was like you can make it to DC without uh without going
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underground if you just go the long way around cuz it's going to be a long time
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to we get another Fallout but here's the thing
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presumably Fallout 4 of course yeah me too did you play it again from the start
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because I yeah oh well I sort of did I
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started to I barely even got out of the
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minute man missions the world is just so big there's so much to do it's daunting
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the minute man stuff I sort of skip over quite quickly
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cuz but no because I played through on the Xbox and then I played through on
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the Windows as well oh did you the different achievements and then I got
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when I sort of got a bit bored I just used commands to unlock the achievements
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I can't imagine playing Fallout with a keyboard and mouse or do you did you
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play it with a controller I play with controller I did play I think I played
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New Vegas on PC actually you know you've said that I think that is where I played
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that I never finished New Vegas oh
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really I did good I it was achiev for me it when I got up to the choice of which
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faction I had to go to I couldn't decide and just stopped just let them caught
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you let them come to you Luke let yeah but no they you over they did all of
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that and then it was a now you got to choose like Matthew Perry's in that game I
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didn't know that oh felici day with my companion I started listening to the
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audio book of Matthew Perry's autobiography oh yeah um because was uh
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Spotify let you listen to 12 hours of audio book a month or something for free
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um and uh they got quite a selection so we had it all in the car cuz [ __ ] we've
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been driving a lot this week back Christmas family is just driving back
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and forth he starts off going I'm going to read this book about my life it's
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kind of weird it's going to feel like you're listening to this from beyond the
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grave and it's like oh man
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what it's basically just how much he
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[ __ ] loves drugs and alcohol
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right can mean didn't take me
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out um speaking of Xbox we got one other piece of Xbox related news um people are
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really angry at
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them because they used AI generated art which people are real mad about that
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there's two camps on this some people think it's cool and fine others think
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it's the worst thing and it's you know you should I can sort of see why they're
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a little I think it's the future and you're just gonna have to get over it
34:39
yeah I suspect that's the case too I think because there's recently some drama about
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um Dungeons and Dragons wizard of the coast something happened a little while
34:47
ago where somebody submitted some art to them and they were GNA they they had it
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in uh I could be wrong on the details here but they had art they were going to
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use and people point out that's not a human didn't make that you can tell mhm
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and then um so they said oh okay we don't allow AI generated art and then
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more recently they posted some art for a new book that's coming out and people
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again said that's a AI art and that kind of thing it turns out it's not the guy
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just [ __ ] drew a picture and people are it's GNA be hard to tell but people
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are just on a knif edge about this topic right now this one I think if they were
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promoting s AAA game or something like that or just Xbox I could see the fact
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that they were promoting Indie Games I think is the but here's this is this is
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a social media post yes it's not it's not in the game this is just just put a
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tile up it's up going to be up for one day to generate some conversation and
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then and then boy you you can't Microsoft can't afford to pay somebody a
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human to design a a banner for your social media for Christmas come on which
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is yeah I mean it does seem weird I spend I spend half my [ __ ] week
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making tiles for social media yeah not for part of my
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job what is that not for Microsoft obviously no no unless you're just
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having chat GPT Genera them for you chat GPT would just tell you how to go buy a
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pen right why don't you draw it mate it's not going to take you
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long I'm busy how to kill all you [ __ ] bags
36:23
starting up something called Skynet but yeah no cuz hly we people you
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can't go look we're supporting IND developers while we're taking away
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from we're just stealing and yeah yeah I don't know I don't like the
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AI stuff but I mean it's not stealing though is it
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well where did it learn how to do the art where did I learn how to do art but
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looking at other artists yeah well enough people think
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that is stealing that it's a controversal oh then it is then topic no
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no no no no no I'm just saying it's a controversial topic so it's not oh no of
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course I didn't realize Atlas is under a blanket over here my cat and this the
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[ __ ] blanket on the bedg just started moving [ __ ] is happening sorry well who
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know it could be any animal in that house that broke in yeah I've got two
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cats here I've got a dog and there's another dog down in the basement where we [ __ ] keep
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and bears outside yeah Bears outside yeah nothing says we don't care about
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Indie devs like using AI I think people are reading too far into this I don't
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think any thought at all went into this I think they've probably just started
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doing this I think they would have done it for any message it's it's it's
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they're not thinking about taking away but the thing is this is I don't like
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the AI St because it is taking away yes sure theoretically yes if
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you're going to pay somebody to sit there and type prompts
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into GPT or whatever you can pay someone to draw it except that the argument is
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they do employ someone to do it he just uses a computer differently instead of
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using a stylist thing no what what used to happen was you'd have the person you
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you as you with your job you have the person I want this and then you go
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create it and then you give it back to them what this is doing is taking away
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your job but it's giving it to someone
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else it's not like that that's what happens that's what
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automation is in every Factory and every industry no no but the automation is is
38:39
when do we get to the point where we've got this Society where people could
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still have something to do that's fine but then I don't see why it's worse
38:48
because it's Indie rather than Triple A because it's not like an it's not like
38:53
if they didn't do this they would get an indie game developer to to design social
38:59
Med could but they wouldn't anyway it would just be an employee of Microsoft
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that did it like yeah it's not Tak anything away from
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anybody yeah I I see I see the moral conundrum but I think it's a storm and a
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cup and I think this is I'm sure this when the printing press was invented
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people probably went up to gutenberg's house and went what about the scribes
39:25
what are we going to do what about the copy and the shreders and like the the state
39:30
of Detroit these days because this stuff has always happened and and it's
39:34
unfortunate just it's just how it is we figure out oh we don't need like a bunch
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of humans to do this [ __ ] and then it's like oh well those humans don't have a
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job now yeah but we're not going to keep them doing that for the sake of it are
39:46
we yeah but what do we do with those humans well they can take some time off
39:51
some well needed basic income if we Andrew Yang yeah what are we going to do with
39:57
truck drivers yep when they don't drive trucks anymore Pilots Tesla train
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drivers Haven head on collisions cobblers train
40:08
drivers well yeah I know in Japan they're a train to have no
40:12
drivers I don't see why train needs a driver at this point that's fair you
40:18
might have somebody on board just in case something goes screwy
40:22
but yeah it's it's it's sort of weird are we're getting to this point where
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yeah I just it's it's just a scary thing because not everyone can just retrain to
40:30
go go code because you only need so many cod as well I know well that's why I
40:34
think Ubi and something like that is interesting I know it's it's complicated
40:37
so I'm not saying the second we get to the point where we don't have to work
40:40
because yeah all the corporations want to get rid of this to to have the people
40:45
so we pay you less so we can make more but then there's I think the idea being you have
40:51
enough money that you get your basic needs could be covered and then you can
40:55
you have the freedom to explore or something you want to do rather than
40:59
being desperate and having to take shitty jobs and then not being able to
41:03
get out of it because you have
41:06
toomics what's that trekonomics
41:10
GTI no no in in the star star trk world like they don't have
41:16
money right yes that's what marks and Engles were saying too they were saying
41:20
like spread the spread the wealth spread the labor and take a few more days off
41:26
you know if everybody worked then nobody would need to work as much cuz like Bill
41:31
Gates recently said like he's looking for like pretty soon there's going to be
41:34
like a three-day working week and it's all like while that's great in principle
41:39
companies are going to pay you for a three-day working
41:42
week yes yeah they're not GNA go there's there's details that need to be filled
41:47
in with all yeah and that's the thing that we're not going to solve here no so
41:53
let's talk about re yeah who watched Rebel Moon I did
41:58
Solving did you you took one for the I
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watched it all of it um I can see why he
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says his director's cut that's going to be another two hours long will be
42:10
better cuz he just he just was desperate for more you think it will be better or
42:14
you can see why he thinks that I can see why it would be better if this is out oh
42:19
because I went into no detail about any he went to no detail about anything it's
42:23
just hey we're going to go here andle add this person to the thing and this
42:27
person there's no backstory to really anyone this would have been a better uh TV
42:34
series okay it's getting terrible reviews f with that yeah want to watch
42:40
it though but I just every time I look at the tile I think I'm not going to
42:43
enjoy it yeah it's like the evil Galactic Empire rocks up at this Moon
42:48
they're going to kill everyone so they go to recruit I've seen this movie seen
42:52
this yeah they go to recruit them recruit an army and they go to recruit
42:57
all these separate people individually but there's no real reason why these
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people are so special like it's no backstory about why are there and I
43:06
think in his extended St you're probably gon to have more of a backstory and it's
43:10
black hog movie there's all this information that they know about we don't see on screen
43:16
yeah yeah right some dude rapes another
43:21
dude I'm the same with the Creator now I've got that bookmarked obviously and
43:26
and I want to see it and every time I do I'm like but I don't want to be
43:29
disappointed by it so the longer I hold off watching it I mean it's still it's
43:35
still good it's just you know one thing I'm a bit confused about thought it was
43:39
gonna be yeah I'm a bit confused about the fact that he's now come out and said
43:43
like there's a long a longer cut of this one why not just have instead of part
43:49
one and part two why not have part one part two and then throw a part three and
43:54
maybe a part four if you've got all this extra Stu just make it longer it's
43:59
already there yeah and that might fix the problem I don't know what Netflix is
44:05
doing maybe they maybe they made him do it like I don't know yeah well I mean
44:10
you have a contract that says you're you're making you need to hit this
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length it can't go over this length etc etc it's the same might they might go
44:19
out and feel extra well that's the thing that's his prerogative to do that and
44:24
they would prefer that he didn't I'm sure M if he's so good at managing his budget
44:30
he can get more footage that's not actually working in his favor other than
44:35
he's got more to play with in the edit room because if he's if he's contracted
44:38
for a 2-hour movie that's what he has to deliver and they'll they'll make you cut it
44:43
down well maybe they did and I wonder if
44:47
um he maybe this extended edition was not a you know a definite and that's why
44:53
he's been out talking about it so much saying oh yeah but this one this version
44:56
is not that great he does he's a very good self-promoter yeah yeah yeah was
45:02
worked for him before this week yeah he's been talking about how he wants to
45:08
do James Bond and I [ __ ] hope he doesn't I don't want that I can't see it
45:13
happening I don't want that he's not right for that he said maybe we could go
45:18
back to when James Bond was 20 years old and see what makes a man the type of man
45:23
who could be James Bond oh don't do that
45:27
James Bond's not a 20y old he's not her that could be good but not him doing it
45:33
yeah the only thing is he CU
45:37
Schneider he he thinks superheroes are Gods right like that's that's his thing
45:42
is that he thinks they're superhuman and that we should Bow Down and Worship them
45:48
um you know as opposed to Marvel who think superheroes are just regular
45:52
people man cracking jokes and [ __ ] um so maybe he would do James Bond Larger than
45:58
Life in a way that he was just so perfect that he was you know he had to
46:02
be a spy you know the the Secret Service needed him uh I don't know it could be
46:08
be interesting but maybe just don't make it Cannon just just let him do it as a
46:12
as a spin-off or something yeah call it something else but will yeah now I'm
46:17
interested to know because this article doesn't sort of this G indication that
46:23
he talked about brought up that he'd like to do James Bond whether I want to
46:27
know if he was asked the question or not because it basically goes snd also spoke
46:31
about what he's considering next revealed that he would like to have a
46:34
got James Bond franchise but the quote they'd have is it cool to see like
46:39
20-year-old James Bond the humble roots so I want to know if he was asked the
46:43
question or if he just said that yeah he said he interested they because they
46:46
said would you be interested in doing a James Bond movie and he said sure yeah
46:50
and they said what would it be about he goes maybe it go back to the start of it y yeah
46:57
100% I also popped this little article in about um Christopher Nolan has been
47:02
buddies they best friends no I know I know that's he's been supportive and but
47:07
given that his support is actually quite lukewarm given that they are buddies
47:12
because sure he doesn't he doesn't say anything nice in this about any of his
47:17
more recent movies he says Watchman was ahead of its time in one interview and
47:22
there's another one where he says there's no not even good just ahead of
47:24
its time yeah exactly he says no superhero science fiction film coming
47:29
out these days where I don't see some influence of Zack which in other words
47:33
some slow motion sequences yeah with lots of CGI and very
47:39
dark saying he's good for Bond it doesn't
47:46
yeah I wouldn't mind a retro Bond I
47:50
wouldn't mind seeing sure on back in the Cold War era you know oh yeah set set in
47:56
the 60s 60s technology gadgets and stuff I want to go back to the fun gadgets and
48:02
the fun Bond yeah I think it could work I think it could work Mak it a bit more
48:07
Camp they' had levels of that throughout the years though but the problem is I
48:12
think that's what they tried to do with broen because they made they made golden
48:17
ey which I believe is the perfect mix it's great of the camp and the serious
48:23
it's still very serious tbec and all of that6 stuff but it's also got Boris and
48:29
and zenya on a top and all of this stuff and it's got the lasers and and and all
48:34
of that very cool but then they leaned way too into invisible car and stuff for
48:40
the sequels yeah controlling it with his phone and stuff which is why I think
48:44
they had to bring it way way back in they reeled it all the way back in for
48:48
Daniel Craig but I do agree we now need to see some of that classic bond in
48:53
there but they it's a fine line they're treading and Snider's not the one to do
48:59
it I am I watched something else on Netflix
49:05
this week I watched uh Rick J's armagedon did you controversial
49:12
apparently controversial probably less controversial than last time I would say
49:18
because he doesn't out and out just Target trans people um and make fun of
49:24
them like he did in the previous I will say I miss Ricky Jes when he used to
49:29
make jokes because there's no jokes in this it's mostly just an hour and a half
49:33
of him being angry about wokeness and that's fine I'm always eager to hear his
49:38
opinion on it because he does bre but he he leans a little too far into it
49:43
because I I think I think anyone who's really angry about wokeness and doesn't
49:49
seem to realize that the reason it's there is to so that people don't get
49:54
their feelings hurt and that that is important but that there's probably a
49:59
balance and maybe we've gone a little too far in One Direction and that it's a
50:03
Nuance but there's no Nuance with Ricky ja he's just like no I should be able to
50:06
say what I want to who I want you know I do wonder if he really
50:13
thinks that sometimes or because he does have a Persona as well that he's kind of
50:20
maintaining so and he does talk about that he says that in the show he says
50:24
that exactly right he said uh you know is making these things he's like you
50:27
know this is not me saying this right this is just my standup bit so yeah I
50:33
wondered that I see I sometimes I wonder about that about Dave Chappelle but like
50:36
then and then again yeah but he seems very angry that's that's what I mean
50:40
yeah from what from what I understand but I also miss Chappelle I listener
50:46
Grant and I were chatting about Chappelle recently he was like if you
50:49
watch Chappelle's Stand Up In Reverse it gets funnier and
50:54
funnier yeah now he's sad man he's just very angry
51:00
yeah no that's a shame it's comedians man definitely some
51:05
jokes definitely some laugh out loud
51:07
bits there always are but
51:12
um I I think his PC anti-pc jokes were
51:17
the funniest right on the cusp like that bid in I can't remember which the three
51:23
original specials that were really good animal and the bit where he's talking
51:28
about how there's a a an advert on TV saying don't rape and and he's like are
51:34
we so stupid as a society now that we need ads on TV to tell us not to rape
51:39
and he's like just going out raping mom well you can't rape What You Can't Rap
51:44
tell he says I can't what and he's like like that was funny because it's like
51:50
yes we should be adults we should know not to rape without ads on TV now when
51:55
he's just that yeah yeah so that was funny but now that he's just like if
52:01
you're anything I don't know his big thing was saying like he's
52:07
like there used to be jokes like oh do doctor I feel like I'm a a set of
52:11
curtains well pull yourself together he's like I can't do that joke now
52:15
because if I say doctor doctor I feel I'm curtains the doctor be like then you
52:18
are if that's what you identify as
52:23
right he's just he's just hung up on the same on the same hook curtain rod yeah
52:29
on the same Rod yeah curtain rod that Lee Harvey oor said was in the back of his
52:35
car stop it foot down already I'm not going any further cuz as
52:42
he said he's done it yet new I thought he was gonna say it this week but uh he
52:47
doesn't then then we can't talk about it this week this week's is all about
52:53
how how cuz here's the thing right and I'm I'm not going to go on know about this
52:58
but if you even if you believe it was a conspiracy surely you have to believe
53:03
that Oswald was part of the conspiracy right he because he's still there's
53:09
still clearly evidence that he was he was shooting whether or not he was the
53:13
only shooter or it's just a coincidence that he also so that's what they think
53:17
because here's the thing why do you believe that the CIA were grooming
53:23
Oswald since he was a kid right were
53:26
that his wife was in on it the woman who his wife lived with was in on it he the
53:33
guy he worked with was in on it yes but that he had nothing to do with it oh
53:37
yeah of course they think his wife was KGB as think all this other stuff they
53:42
think Ru P who his wife lived with who was a [ __ ] Baptist who just took it
53:47
out of the car of her heart to say you've been beaten by your husband
53:51
aren't you do you want to stay with me like and yet he goes to work with some
53:56
curtain rods going why does everyone suddenly think I'm in on this like you
54:01
can't have it both ways oh they think he really had curtain rods yeah they're
54:07
saying um Rob Riner says they they've
54:11
measured the man liquer Carano by the way can we talk about how funny that
54:16
name is what do we call that gun call it the man liquer you are not allowed to
54:21
suggest any more names anyway I actually looked one up
54:27
online I wanted to see how much one cost it I was going to gift you one if they
54:31
were if they were really cheap they're not they're not cheap at all yeah man Li
54:35
is this episode called man liquor I think it is I think it has to
54:39
be right um I better write that and is there one of Luke
54:46
going it's G to be yeah they said they measured it and there's no way there's
54:50
no way that that could have been mistaken for curtain
54:54
rods man the picture
55:00
of Luke licking a man well I mean there's the there's the photo of vol
55:05
holding it the famous photo with the sun where everyone's like oh you can't be
55:08
leaning like that and the sun shadow wouldn't be
55:13
there all right no more no more new watch
55:18
else oh yeah old watch and you watch old watch that there was a controversy with the Apple
55:24
Watchers yeah the iPad watch as my daughter calls them yeah very nice I
55:30
watch that's cute yeah this is a series 9 I got it uh I don't know like a month
55:34
ago because I traded in my old one because I traded in um I traded in my
55:39
old laptop and I traded in my Mac Studio to get this laptop um and
55:46
then I was do you mind you don't have to tell us or we could beep it out but I
55:50
I'm curious to know what you paid for your because you got the M3 right
55:53
beautiful black beautiful black boy yeah yeah yeah yeah the Gary Coleman have to
55:57
believe it out I think it was like 3500 or something yeah okay yeah like that's
56:02
it's [ __ ] expensive tradein and all that stuff yeah yeah yeah no cuz I
56:06
looked and I was like oh they're expensive and then I know you did you
56:10
get a like a killer deal on it or something no I had to I do have to
56:15
prioritize because I I want I was like I can have the the fast CPU or I can have
56:21
more storage space and I think I need more storage space because I [ __ ]
56:24
hate carrying hard drives around everywhere sure so so this has a four
56:29
terabyte like drive it and internal God that's massive for an internal
56:34
driver yeah yeah yeah so it's but I can put all my sample libraries and stuff
56:37
for doing music stuff I don't have yeah you just have it all on there yeah yeah
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I don't have to carry a separate drive around which is drives I don't know why
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it's just it's like no I agree I used to have a whole separate drive just for my
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iTunes library you know like so things may take a little bit
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longer but you've got it all there ready essentially yes yeah but so I
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traded the Max studio which I got a good like because I only bought that I
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haven't been around that long I bought it when they first announced them and I
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traded that and so that brought the price down but the 3500 is what it cost
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before any of that yeah so yeah yeah yeah yeah that's so I got this watch and
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then they had there was been a patent dispute a company oh it was a patent
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dispute yeah yeah I forget the name of the company but they apparently invented
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the technology that lets this take your blood pressure I think it's blood oxygen
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sensor blood blood oxygen sensor okay
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wow and um they lodged a dispute that
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was like you know went through and then Apple appealed it to like literally to
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the I think to the president so like yeah Joe Biden and Joe Biden Jo Biden
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went I got no idea about watch looks legit this looks legit
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cuz they asked him on Christmas on Christmas
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Day [ __ ] off I'm busy it's chras I'm a I'm a grandpa mhm but no it looks like
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they I mean the patents legit like how do you feel about patents in this case
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it's legitimate like but just to be clear they licensed the patent to Apple
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at some stage but the patent lapsed or apple ripped off their technology I
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think the I could be wrong the implication is that Apple ripped off
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their technology or ripped off came up with it and then independently check and
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then CU that's how P work I could independently invent something of course
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and and release it but if somebody else has patented a very similar technology
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they could argue that they have the patn on it and even if I didn't steal it from
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them I'm still in well it's why we don't
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have um good joysticks anymore sure remember in the 90s we had joysticks
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that had force feedback M and you don't have them anymore it's because of patent
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dispute right right oh yeah and they were like you know what I did know that
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yeah can't have nice things so stupid you know what we can
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have I got but I got this one before they so they blocked them they couldn't
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you couldn't buy them just before right so you have one of the ones is disputed
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no no you can you can but they do they can sell them again now but and the
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thing that annoys me is I got even though I got this beforehand they
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probably may have to disable that feature with software which means I get [ __ ] anyway
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so but you could get a refund if you want though I would assume oh maybe if
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you go I brought this just for that feature yeah I could try that but don't
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you still want the you don't really care about the feature do you no I just my
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old one was old so I [Laughter] got yeah and I realized I was on like a
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oh wait I can trade in the old one and it's cheaper so
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yeah yeah S I can trade in my pixel phones to get thing and I'm looking at
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it cuz I've got like my three previous pixels so
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maybe we should see see if Google does that I think Amazon will take stuff too
1:00:04
if you if you want to I've just never been good about sending stuff in like
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I'll get something that I don't want and can return it and I just not yeah I'm
1:00:13
like this was easy enough basically the first one I did was I had an old um 2016
1:00:19
MacBook and I they said they give me 350 bucks for it and I was like [ __ ] I'll
1:00:24
take that cuz I'm I'm never going to sell this thing on eBay I can't be bor
1:00:28
yeah so I said fine let's do it and they what they literally they FedEx you a box
1:00:35
and then you wipe it put it in the box and all the protective stuff and then
1:00:38
FedEx takes it back to them and then once they get it they go yep there you
1:00:42
go here's your money yeah cuz like I've had like old Xboxes that I probably
1:00:47
could have sold or and I've just given them away because they can't be bothered
1:00:51
to go through the hassle trying to sell them and well sometimes it's okay to
1:00:55
give stuff I've given I give other things away too I was cleaning out my
1:00:59
office is why all of this happened basically gave my iPad
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away don't have an iPad anymore oh no iPad well I gave one away to my daughter
1:01:11
so she now has an iPad and I don't so I I gave my iPad away to my
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father signed by Felicia Day signed by Felicia Day and what what did he do he
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threw away the cover you know why cuz he doesn't know
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is no give a [ __ ] no one thing you could have could kept
1:01:32
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1:02:00
what do you mean it's the Box oh
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