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EP184 - Friday The 13th Part IV - The Final Chapter (Thirsty For Gore) · Thirsty For More - Movie Review

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  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 2: Really, Oh no, oh no, no, no, no no, I
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  Speaker 2: can't afford it a computer, but it's happening. I think
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  Speaker 2: it is. Oh no, oh no, why not just become memes? Dude?
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  Speaker 3: Get like, yeah, all right, well, hello everyone, welcome to
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  Speaker 3: Thirsty for Gore.
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  Speaker 2: Oh of course, I'm your host, Milane, and I am GOALX.
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  Speaker 2: Nice to meet you. Oh my god, it's Thirsty for Gore.
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  Speaker 2: I have never ever been thirsty. Yeah, totally. I'm pretty
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  Speaker 2: thirsty for Gore as well. Dude, dude, oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: Friday the Thirteenth, Part four, part time the final chapter, dude,
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  Speaker 2: the final chapter. And boy was at the final movie
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  Speaker 2: that was ever made of that? I mean, yeah, dude,
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  Speaker 2: you like, of course, man, Jason's cool, and I was
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  Speaker 2: very excited about this one. We start, of course, in
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  Speaker 2: like the most famous of Victory Labs, all three parts
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  Speaker 2: condensed into one cold open. Yeah at this point like
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  Speaker 2: cold open laurified in U like staple lorified. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: can't have one next movie without having previous movie in it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, except this one does the thing of like, well,
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  Speaker 3: we need a whole bunch of other things to explain
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  Speaker 3: what happened to Jason we get the restating around the campfire.
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  Speaker 3: Jason didn't actually die, they didn't find the boy.
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  Speaker 2: They never found.
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  Speaker 3: Legend has it Jason's mom got killed in front of
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  Speaker 3: him actually when he was in his twenties, I guess, but.
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  Speaker 2: A child still in a child body and then grows
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  Speaker 2: up really fast, really fast, and change his bodies in
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  Speaker 2: several different movies. Yeah percent both uh Lilt both Gate
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  Speaker 2: Gate uh and Yeah Lil Lilt and and like thickness.
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  Speaker 2: This is the the thing, thinks Jason. We've had not
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  Speaker 2: like spelled like Jack to Jason, but not bloated either.
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  Speaker 2: Not he's eventually he gets so bloated it goes over
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  Speaker 2: the Yeah, well, okay, so that this is the part
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  Speaker 2: that I was kind of confused about. And it's never
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  Speaker 2: clear I don't think in this movie unless you know
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  Speaker 2: something that I don't know. Is he dead? Is he
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  Speaker 2: dead at the end of part three? And is he
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  Speaker 2: dead at the end of part four? Part time? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's the thing, dude, Like you don't know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like he's got so far like maybe
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  Speaker 2: just really magic healing powers. Yeah, he's wolverining a little bit. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's an X man. That's why people hate him, because
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  Speaker 2: it's because he's different. He's gay. It's true, that's what
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  Speaker 2: he's He's the other in society. Dude. Yeah, whatever that
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  Speaker 2: other is he is, he's whatever representation reflected back. But
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  Speaker 2: I think, I mean, it's it's rich for that kind
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  Speaker 2: of stuff, dude. It could be. It could be. This
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  Speaker 2: movie is really interesting because it kind of like it
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  Speaker 2: takes some bold swings in the sense of leaning into
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  Speaker 2: what it feels like genuinely to be like a dopey
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  Speaker 2: sex written like tsosterone so dick monster, like like what
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  Speaker 2: Dan Savage says, like just like like being like fuck,
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  Speaker 2: I have to fuck yeah, and like I get it.
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  Speaker 3: I get it too, I get it too. It is
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  Speaker 3: it does start to verge on self parody this one
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  Speaker 3: in a way that's interesting because the third one does
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  Speaker 3: this thing also where it's like, well, we're referencing fangoria,
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  Speaker 3: we're referencing that we're a cultural icon now, and it
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  Speaker 3: is getting into the point where.
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  Speaker 2: It's rocky four ing, it's rocky flooring. Yeah, it is
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  Speaker 2: rocky for it's struggling under the weight of its own lore,
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  Speaker 2: but not struggling. I would say, like it's it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of like like Rocky four. It's like very triumphantly victory lapping,
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  Speaker 2: and it's like we're gonna yeah, yeah, yeah, Part one
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  Speaker 2: through three will do that. That's fine, but here's like,
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  Speaker 2: why don't we start a new chapter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, That's kind of what I like about it is
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  Speaker 3: that let's stop focusing so much on Justson. Just yeah,
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  Speaker 3: totally just they totally do focus on just Jason.
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  Speaker 2: And then this one it's a lot of you're doomed.
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  Speaker 2: You're all people warned us. It's true, it's true. It's
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  Speaker 2: kind of like, well, we told you, and now you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna watch all these people die. Yeah, and we're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna watch all these people die. It. It kind
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  Speaker 2: of it became about the thing, and it's cool that like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, he's in a hospital dead at the beginning,
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  Speaker 2: well okay, okay, winning it's.
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  Speaker 3: Actually is actually them picking up the body and stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and also all these police being around, no police which
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  Speaker 3: we recognize in this small town, and.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, I mean, you know what. It took
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  Speaker 2: three bikers and sevent teenagers, but they stopped him. They
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  Speaker 2: killed him. Yeah, he's dead. We we don't have to
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  Speaker 2: chase this guy anymore. This guy this black and this
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  Speaker 2: this the guy who's been in a bunch of movies
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  Speaker 2: that we've seen. Yeah, this like weird, like like gaunt
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  Speaker 2: cop guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah totally No, he's a paramedic, but they take him
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  Speaker 3: the body and it.
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  Speaker 2: Feels like she's gonna be the big character. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: totally it's full Danny wall rude and full anymore, like
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  Speaker 2: because they focus in on her reactions of like.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like almost like oh, it's a mystery that she's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be in.
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  Speaker 2: And it was actually interesting some of the overacting and
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  Speaker 2: like it's almost like pantomime.
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  Speaker 3: It is almost like pantomime. It's like a joke version
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  Speaker 3: of the other.
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  Speaker 2: Movies and the pantomim Yeah, the guy, the guy who's.
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  Speaker 3: One of the morticians who wants to fuck the other
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  Speaker 3: mortician nurse lady so and he's like, uh, yeah, let's
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  Speaker 3: go fuck, and she's like no, you're gross, but that
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  Speaker 3: she's like, well, I mean yeah, dude, like you were
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  Speaker 3: gonna fuck.
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  Speaker 2: And then Jason from like what the.
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  Speaker 3: Though, like, I mean yeah, dude, we're gonna absolutely yeah, But.
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  Speaker 2: They did make her seem like insanely insanely hot and
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  Speaker 2: cold in a way that I feel like an in
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  Speaker 2: cel writer was writing, I don't know, they're just like that.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes they want it, other times they don't want it. Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 2: And then he's like watching these like aerobics class ass shaking.
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  Speaker 2: That's just like this isn't anything.
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  Speaker 3: It's hilarious and it's ass shaking, but it's just like
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  Speaker 3: the top but it's just.
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean it's it would be the equivalent
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  Speaker 2: of like he had his phone open watching tworking videos.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, totally, but tworking videos exist. I feel
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  Speaker 3: like this was specifically shot for this.
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  Speaker 2: Of course it was due. It was very mister he's hot.
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  Speaker 2: No one's gonna get that reference absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: And then she's like looking for him, and then he
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  Speaker 3: goes to kiss her. She's like, I don't want to,
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  Speaker 3: even though I do, and then the dead hand of
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  Speaker 3: Jason comes out and he touches her while they're watching, Like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, what's what is cool and interesting about this.
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  Speaker 2: Whole part the self referential Jason's on the news, Jason's on.
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  Speaker 3: The news, but also that kind of commentary on like yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we love watching poor nos and we love watching gross
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  Speaker 3: shit where it's like, oh, some some people died. We
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  Speaker 3: there was a murder, you know, so like people.
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  Speaker 2: Love this kind of fake news. They love the fakes,
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  Speaker 2: they love the fake news, and then they.
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  Speaker 3: Just start like almost fucking basically, and she gets really
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  Speaker 3: mad when she almost gets touched and she's like, why
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  Speaker 3: do I even want to fuck this gross guy?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's like she should have put that guy
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  Speaker 2: on ice, she's so yeah, and then like Jason's alive.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, Yeah, Jason is just alive and just alive and
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  Speaker 3: the door slightly opens to his freezer thing while he's
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  Speaker 3: watching shaking ass videos. Yeah, and then he fucking murders him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, how does he murder him? He takes a song
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  Speaker 2: and saws his neck and then twists his head off
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  Speaker 2: Tom SAVIGNI, yeah, dude, back back force and then he
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  Speaker 2: grabs her face and oh yeah and then like cuts
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  Speaker 2: over body. Yeah. Yeah, like definitely the yeah, definitely the
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  Speaker 2: chattist of OFE. Like for sure, Jason was very much
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  Speaker 2: like can you film.
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  Speaker 3: We get introduced to Corey Feldman's mom and sister and
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  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna bother learning their name.
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  Speaker 2: Tris Trish the Dish, Trish the dish, and of course
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  Speaker 2: we've propped a later and we're gonna have to and
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  Speaker 2: what's his name?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, Corey Feldman putting that mask on that and imply
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  Speaker 3: that he, like, I guess made this man this intrication.
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  Speaker 2: Tommy just has like like thom Savini's entire do you
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  Speaker 2: think Tommy is dude? Tom is tom Savini? Dude, he
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  Speaker 2: put himself in the movie. They put himself in the
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  Speaker 2: movie as a young Cody. He was a great active
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  Speaker 2: I met him when he was a young boy. Was terrible.
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  Speaker 2: What the parents did terrible? What Michael did you know?
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  Speaker 2: Michael didn't actually do anything to me. Did you ever
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  Speaker 2: see it? Dude? Did you ever see that video? You
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  Speaker 2: can this isn't the tree Sancho. Let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 2: Did you ever did you ever see that video of
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  Speaker 2: Red Dursty? Like we're the losers?
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  Speaker 3: Man like like self referentual knows what he is and
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  Speaker 3: and Corey Filman is like totally misses the point and
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  Speaker 3: he's just like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, yeah, I don't know, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, Like he doesn't want to answer, But Corey,
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  Speaker 2: Cody is nobody's loser. Corey Tommy is the coolest fun.
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  Speaker 2: He is a cool character. Something that did bother me
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  Speaker 2: about this movie, though, is the fact that I wanted
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  Speaker 2: more of this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jason Lancaster, I sing and play guitar and go radio.
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  Speaker 1: Nice to meet.
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  Speaker 2: You, No, no, no, Tommy Magic.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted more Tommy, and I wanted a little just
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  Speaker 3: a little bit less like Chrispin Glover or the other guys,
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  Speaker 3: because I feel like Tommy and their sister Trish and
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  Speaker 3: the mom are like ripe for some kind of.
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  Speaker 2: It's a bloated storyline.
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  Speaker 3: Is it is a bloated storyline, as bloated as his
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  Speaker 3: corpse scats.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what, I think that you're not looking
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  Speaker 2: at it backchlorified. I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at it fourth dimensionally, are you I am?
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  Speaker 3: I am well, because I will say this is the
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  Speaker 3: most fourth dimensional Crispin Glover performance. It's his most normal
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  Speaker 3: where he's just like where he hasn't gone in, He
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  Speaker 3: hasn't like a stretched out the words.
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  Speaker 2: It's just I just want to fuck man. You're a
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  Speaker 2: fucking dead fuck you loser. Yeah, dude, listen, your old
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  Speaker 2: man a loser. You're a dead fuck loser.
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  Speaker 3: He kind of plays the kind of plays a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of a chat in this dude for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Versus what's his name? Nikki? Is the other guy's name, Scott?
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  Speaker 2: Who is the true fucking loser, which is so he
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: feels like such a low loser. He's kind of got
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of the arc of what was our
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  Speaker 2: boy from the last movie who got Jason his mask? Oh? Lenny, Yeah, totally, No,
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  Speaker 2: not Lenny, Sherry, not Sherry. What was his name Shelley, Shelley, Yeah. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: he's got some Shelley vibes, like because he's like he
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  Speaker 2: but he's bullying his friend who just got dumped, and
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  Speaker 2: he's trying to make him feel low for it. And
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  Speaker 2: he's like, that's a woman you should have taken care of,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like like she should have taken care of her.
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  Speaker 2: And and he's like, what do you mean, I did
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  Speaker 2: take care of him? I did. I did take care
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  Speaker 2: of him totally. And he's like, you want me to
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  Speaker 2: on her, let me let me consult my computer. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: computer says, you're fucking looser with the limp.
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  Speaker 3: Dick, And then and then they stop in front of
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  Speaker 3: Pamela Warhees's grave, which for some reason is right on
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  Speaker 3: the street and they're like literally.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, and.
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  Speaker 3: Then this poor fat girl, this poor queer fat girl
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  Speaker 3: who's like, I need.
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  Speaker 2: A ride somewhere getting treated in society.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: Dude, they're they're like they're like Canadian and then they
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  Speaker 3: drive away and.
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  Speaker 2: She has a back sign that says fuck you. But
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  Speaker 2: I loved her weird pantomime performance because she's kind of
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  Speaker 2: like do you sits down and then like gets like
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  Speaker 2: stabbed so brutally through the neck, and she squeezes the
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  Speaker 2: banana that she's eating out and like she kind of
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  Speaker 2: like sloppily ate the banana like she like had it.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, but I did. I did that. People are discussed,
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  Speaker 2: but I didn't think it was like she deserved to die.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think, well, I there's definitely some of that
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  Speaker 2: in the movie, but because they do reference people's weight
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  Speaker 2: a lot in the movie weirdly, like the guy like
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  Speaker 2: watches the like softest cord like twenties flapperborn, He's like like,
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  Speaker 2: look at these pigs. He's like, Jesus, dude, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if you're not saying it in a potential way, like yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I just felt I don't know, uh, it kind of
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  Speaker 2: like wanted to do that, but it I also sexualized
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  Speaker 2: her in a way that didn't see like that seemed
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  Speaker 2: like non judgmental of like eating this sloppy banana and
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  Speaker 2: then squeezing the dick of the banana, dick of the banana.
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  Speaker 3: The new teens get to the house which is the
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  Speaker 3: next door neighbor of Corey Feldman, Trish the Dish and mom.
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  Speaker 2: They call her Trish the Dish, Yeah, and.
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  Speaker 3: They're all like the mom is like sort of like hmm,
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  Speaker 3: there's kids over there, and Corey Feldman immediately is like,
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  Speaker 3: I want to see.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Corey felt is like I got a bo this
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  Speaker 2: age where like when you're like twelve years old and
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: you're like d like literally like, it's interesting that they
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: show this kind of like horniness for the first time
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  Speaker 2: in these movies of like a preteen and it almost
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  Speaker 2: is like kind of catering the audience down to it
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  Speaker 2: knows that likes are gonna watch it. Totally. It totally does.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's like, yeah, older kids smoke weed and fuck,
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  Speaker 2: but you you're just a boner loser. Yeah, tell me
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  Speaker 2: you just got boners all the time. Look at you,
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  Speaker 2: don't you? Look at you? Your boner loser, like gat
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  Speaker 2: me the boner.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah no, but like, what's weird about it watching it
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  Speaker 3: now is the amount of groomer panic about fucking dumb
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  Speaker 3: Disney movies. And then like look like knowing that these
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  Speaker 3: fucking losers who make those kinds of uh like jokes,
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  Speaker 3: they watch these movies they want they want to see
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  Speaker 3: boobies and and porno stuff in regular movies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and and like of course, of course
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  Speaker 2: preteens are gonna want to see boobies, and this is
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: a movie all about boobies. This one especially is about
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  Speaker 2: booby absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, the mom like knows that he saw and
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  Speaker 3: like puts like yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Which some some some parents love knowing the children are
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  Speaker 2: little horn dogs for one, for one minute, my daughter,
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  Speaker 2: I hear bear him jerking off all the time. It's disgusting.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: He's got boners, he had boners. He's like Greg from Succession,
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of a loser at first, but then
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  Speaker 2: slightly less a loser later. And when he meets it
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: they them at college, he's going to drop his father
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  Speaker 2: like a tenant sectatus. Do you think so? Maybe I
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: hope so, I hope maybe Baron will be like cool
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: he'll he'll get a septum piercing dude and like dye
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: his hair. Oh dude, that'd be amazing. I would love
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: that he would start wearing like jinkos. What's a Jinko's
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: like a racial slur. Jinkos are iconic, like big pants.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: They're the new they're the new metal metal pants. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're called jinkos. I don't know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's for a reason, dude, because then fucking jinko's.
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  Speaker 2: I was one. I know you were a fucking jink Yeah.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: It does straight up sell like a slur. Though, right,
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  Speaker 2: look at these fucking jinks sounds for what though? It's
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's a combination of consonants that sounds very
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  Speaker 2: like aggressive. We don't take took the jinkos around here,
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  Speaker 2: I think because you're saying it kind of like.
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  Speaker 3: No, dude, No, you're looking at me. It's sounding disappointed
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  Speaker 3: on the bike.
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  Speaker 2: Because you're like, oh, my brother acting like this again.
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  Speaker 2: The audience, let's let's continue. I don't give a fuck
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  Speaker 2: about the audience. Clearly we don't give them content. What's it?
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  Speaker 3: Chrispin Glover and dickless fucking friend loser me two twins
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: because Twin Sesta is the next step of this series.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Uh, they're like, oh man, oh man, Twins Die is
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  Speaker 2: the most American one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the most like what people think of it's
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  Speaker 3: the rock, It's the Rambo two of the Jason's because
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  Speaker 3: nobody thinks of the first three.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody thinks the three.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: In a Shakari, who are just really really awesome dudes.
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  Speaker 1: Like we've we've been grown down with them so hard
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  Speaker 1: on this tour. And then a Data remember who is
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: also from Florida. You know, like we kind of grew
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  Speaker 1: up in the same same sort of scenes and everything,
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  Speaker 1: so it's like they're all just awesome dudes as well.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's really really just a lot of fun to hang
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  Speaker 1: out with. You know. I haven't really got got rock
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  Speaker 1: starred by anybody yet, so pretty stope.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is this is what I can't
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  Speaker 2: believe that Bruce Gamers Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I love the Bruce Gais Yeah, because we always knew
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: that Bruce Willis had that, but like figuring it out
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: on the podcast to be like how do we imitate
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Bruce Willis?
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean because he's just got a musical
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: kind of voice. You know, he does have a musical
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: kind of voic.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: As it's almost it's almost reminiscent of there's some Marty
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: in there.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, duc doc, Yeah, exactly innocent Bruce Willis, because
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Bruce Willis has like a like says things with a
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: question mark. Sometimes he does, We've got dead dead fish
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: and uh what does he keep calling him? He keeps
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: calling him, yeah, fucking loser.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: He's like, they all go skinny dipping with the twins,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: and there's so much nudity.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: It's amazing. It is amazing. Crispin Glover is hesitant to
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: take his clothes off because he doesn't want people to
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: see his giant dead dead fish or like what what
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: does he keep saying? He calls him a dead fuck
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: dead fuck. Yeah, that's it.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: But they all get get naked and fucking ah Man
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: sancheng Corey Feldman is he she like, and his sister
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: come down and she's like, you're.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Too young for that.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go skinny dipping later with this random dude
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: that I meet later who's the sibling's rubbed the knob.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I know you want to say signs to me because
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: the way you're saying in your body. Language is all
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: about I can see it. You want to say something
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: to me, I can always say something, and it always
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be the mother in lawder you hate.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I don't hate you. That's not what I'm gonna say.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: You don't hate me. He's the sibling of yeah, yeah,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: you know, the one with the curly hair who's in
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: the part two. Oh okay, yeah, she's part two.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, and using his skills as a computer nerd,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: he tries to fix the car when it breaks down.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, so he's like he's like, hold Corey Feldman.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: He's like, hold on, I can fix the car. Wait,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I need is a screwdriver. And then like the gnobe
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: comes and he's like, get the fuck out of the way, kid,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I'm way better at man. He's not like that, but
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: he's kind of like he is like nice, but he's
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: like kind of aggressive, like he takes charge aggressively. That's
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: what every little boy loves. A Jason Hunter dude. Yeah,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: totally a brave Jason Hunter. And like, yeah, he's supposed
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: to be Jason like too, because they keep kind of
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: scaring us with him in a way like they show
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: his feet in the way that they show Jason's feet.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: He's supposed to be tall. He's got a knof he's.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Got and lady wants to She totally wants to him,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: and it's great.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: And she does. She has no time for that other
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: group of juveniles because that includes fucking Crisp and Glover,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: who is hot in this movie. Yeah he is. He's
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: definitely like a very hot dude. They're all they're all
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: they're all hot kids, you know, and they're all together
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: and they want to fuck each other. Absolutely, they all
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: want to just like an American kid should, any red
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: blooded red blooded Speaking.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Of red blooded American kids, he takes Rob the uh
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: what's his name, fuck, Corey Feldman takes Rob the Knob
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: upstairs to show him Tom Savini's masks.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, look, I've got these like hoses. He's
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: got like developed hoses and like makes the like three.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Dimensional like movable mandible like putry that you need like chords,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: And there's.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: No way this kid, even though heavily implies like they've
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: just got a lot of money, dude, because from the divorce,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: this is like the death like a tech billionaire. He's
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: a dotcom billionaire.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Oh Man And the next scene with Crispin Glover's erratic
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: dancing his first foray anti shamanic acting.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Dude, Dude, like this like performance is like he has
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: never been He's never ever been like directable, you know,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: like the only time he was directable was in this.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: This was the first period where he was like willing
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: to like allow like he was willing to not be
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: shramantic about it. Dude. The shamanic actors, dude are.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Nick Cage, yeah, Joaquin yeah, Crispin.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's another one in.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Here that's in that vein as well. I forget who,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: but like there's a bunch of them that you're like, whoa, dude,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: this is awesome. These types of performances is what I want.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's because it's cool because it's
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: like a bold choice, like to dance like that, like
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: no one has ever danced before in to like choose
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: to like it's the only thing I can compare it to.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: And everyone makes fun of her for it. But Jojo
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Siwa and that like like erratic arm dance, do you
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about? She does she does like
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: a like a like it's like a jerking, jolty step,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: and I'm doing it as I as I describe it,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: and like jetting her arms out awkwardly in like like
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: a baby kind of fashion, while like like head banging
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: in place amazing, and and your body's supposed to be
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: like super rigid as you do. People have done like lane,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: people have done like it is very like, yeah, people
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: have people have done like versions. But what's so amazing
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: about this Crisp and Glover dance is it's so difficult
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: to actually recreate. Yeah, totally. It's fully like a hymn dance. Yeah. Yeah,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: because you like to dance with me, you can't do
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: any other impression. But it has. It has to sound
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: a bit panicked. But I like how gentle you make it. Yeah,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: a bit panicked, it has, it has to be gentle. Yeah.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: And then like this was a little bit weird because
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: it like makes them a little bit too in love
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: with each other immediately. But Trisha sends out back in
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: the forest where he's been staying because he's he's gotting Jason,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: because he's got magazine articles.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Dude, he's got newspaper. We don't even read the newspaper.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: He's definitely using this extra newspaper as toilet paper as
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: he vagrant. He like fucking he is like this like vagrant,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: scary guy who like this woman should not be messing with.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: He seems like a scary dude, a little bit, a
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: little bit crazy. He seems like he's like. She's like,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: you know, you could come take a shower if you
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: need to, Like, she definitely mentions the shower to him.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, mentions the shower for several reasons. One, you're
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: a hot dude, but you smell, dude, your dick smells.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I can smell it. I can smell your dick.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Cheese hands, dude, he totally does have dick cheese hands.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: The twins are like hitting on a bunch of the
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: different dudes.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: And like breaking up to make others jealous. Well, we
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: didn't talk about the like like slut conbo that they
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: have earlier on the like to two ladies, which I
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: kind of thought was cool. Well, like, do you remember
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: when like the girlfriend of the guy the relationship that
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: gets broken up by one of the twins has a
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: conversation with the blonde and they're like they're like, oh,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: you know, well you have a reputation, right the blonde
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: is like or she's not blonde, she's like dirty blonde.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: She's like, you have a reputation. She's like, oh, well,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: my reputation just carried over from from middle school, you
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: know how boys are sort of things. Yeah, totally, it's interesting.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: This is some of the horniness in a weird way,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: which is like interesting to give these two women talking
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: like that moment.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, and this like odd sort of understanding that
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: the writers don't seem to understand how creepy it is.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Totally. You know, it's weird oblivious the distance between the filmmate.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: But the writing of something so real for women, so
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: bizarre totally because.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: It's almost like you had to create this like insane
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: horror and torture of women to get close to like
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: a point about masculine violence towards women, you know what
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Or just like not even violence, just like perversion, just
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: like a or.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Like sexual agency. Yeah, and like you know, it's kind
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: of like it's dangerous to have sexual agency because then
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: you'll be in a forest somewhere and a guy will
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: murder you, you know what I mean. So it's like
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: it does sort of start to take on a moralistic
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: tone just because of the repetitiveness. But like the movie
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: still never really judging no, no, it ever directly like
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: judging the characters.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: It does a pretty good job at still making them
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: horny teens, just a little bit more over the top
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: than the rest. As one of the jealoustines goes off
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: to skinny dip and wait for her her partner to.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Be like, oh no, come on, yeah, we've all been
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: in this situation before.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: She takes off all her clothes and is like waiting
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: for him in the misty waters of.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Crystal Lake and continues this trope of swimming to a
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: boat and going inside it, which like, is cool, but
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: it's a soft bottom boat and we know that because
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: she gets stabbed through the bottom of the boat and
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: totally by Jason, who's I guess now who's back, and
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: he's like, I'm gonna kill you. It's like weird because
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: like I would think that isn't he like traumatized from
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: the water. Should he not want to go into it? No?
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I think he feels like he owns the water. I
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: think he thinks he knows the water and there's a
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: comfort and safety. Maybe he can hold his breath a
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: long time because he's got like Wolverine regenerative totally, or
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: he already almost round, or he's dead. He's dead and
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: he doesn't need to breathe. I don't know. It's very
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: it's getting to rude force Jason, where like he is
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: more impenetrable in this movie than in any of the
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: other And again the other ones, he would like he'd
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: like react like this, he had to react. He's just
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: like he reacts once. But but it's getting less. It's
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: getting more dead eyed Jason, and he's getting more dead eyed.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: And then as the boyfriend goes out.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: To look for his girlfriend, who he emotionally cheated on
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: with one of the twins, the emotional cheating twins.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: He was just on annoying cheating. He's rubbed a knob.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: He's on annoying cheating.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: She's like, well, I mean Crispin's really attractive now.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like, I'll take the second best one. He's like, hey,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: didn't you like the other guy before? And she's like,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: well I like you no, yeah, and like and he's like, okay.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: When I was a kid one time in daycare, this
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: this kid said to me, Hey, I'm only your friend
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: when other friends aren't around, and then the teacher overheard him.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Then she was like, well, that's not very nice. And
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I was like, no, no, it's okay. I need friends,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: please please. I wanted to protect you. You didn't know that.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: You know, I knew she was trying to protect me.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: I just didn't think I was worthy of the protection.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Pretty depressing, but he goes off to swim on the
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: on the and he sees that his girlfriend is now
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: dead part in part because he cheated it on her
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: and gets his come up and by getting stabbed in
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: the dick.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Uh, gets like pulled in the dick. And then he's
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: almost like it's almost like it's it is his dick.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah it is. Yeah, it's almost like exactly. And then, Uh,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: you're the biggest fucking chat in this movie. You're almost cheated.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Then he's like, Rob the Knob goes out with a machete,
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Uh to hear what the screaming is all about?
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh, And it wasn't machette. It wasn't a chet day. Yeah. Yeah.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: And Rob and Knob is so weirdly panicked and ineffectual.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: He's stinky. He's like he's just this like the crazed
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: brother of like one of the previous characters from a
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: different movie. Kind of insane, dude, Like.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: It's kind of cool. It is cool because like that's.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: The bloat that I'm talking about, is that, like there's.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Ideas here where you've got one family with the mask
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: making kid who will get to there's a parallel between
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: him and Jason.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: There's a crazed lunatic who's trying to find his sister.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Jason comes back to life for the first time, or
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: does he, and then a new set of kids. So
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: there's like so many storylines that could have been whittled
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: down into like just us storyline with some peripheral characters.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I'm you need a body count though, that's the thing.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's what they were thinking about and all.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: And he's got to kill the most people, yeah, and
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: the most people that we like. But to be fair, though, dude,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: like this movie does for its bloat, it does a
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: really good job of setting up all of the characters.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: It does do a good job, and it does do
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: a good job of making them somewhat more character based.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Like this is the scene where Chrispin Glover is like
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: having sex with the lady in the bed breaks and
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: there's like a cute moment there and then the like
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: doofy loser who finds the like thirty sixteen millimeter pornos
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: that he like sets up the projector to watch.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, it was Flapper era pornos. He
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: like he was just like flap into fap into flap flappens.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: But the funny thing is is that there is more
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: of this kind of inserting self reference of what teenagers watch,
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: what kids watch, and what people.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: And they want to find pixelated showtime porn. Well pixelated,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: we want to find fuzzy porno that we need to adjust.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: They see the hardcore ship yet to do the adjusting thing.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: And like there were like those golden hours where like
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: you got like clear vision of some late night pornos.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Of course on cable television. We're talking about we we
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: we we go back to a time with cathered gray
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: TVs and for sure videotaping things. But yeah, it definitely
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: is like like somebody at a projector or something, you know,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: you have you found a way to found pornos. Yeah, totally.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: And like this is interesting because the twin sister doesn't
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: engage in twin sest, but is like, I'm so satisfied
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: by Chrispin Glover, I don't need my twin at all.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: And she's like, go the fuck home, fucking person.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: It was so so weird and like it seems like
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: also kind of in keeping with someone who would steal
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: a boyfriend in front of yeah the person totally. But
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: then but then when when they're all watching the pornos
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: and she leaves, she's like, take a brain jacket. He
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: fucking Jason fucking stabs the girl that throws the body
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: onto the house and it stabs into the wall of
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: the house. Yeah, it kills her, audacious dude. Yeah. And
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: then the two other teens are like She's like.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Because they're sleeping in in a bunk bedroom and they
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: weren't supposed to be together, and.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: She's like, well he's hot.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: So she's like, I'm gonna go upstairs. Do you mind
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: sleeping on the bottom bunk? And he's like, well, do
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: you want to sleep on the top? Do you or
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: she goes do you mind if I sleep on the
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: bottom And she's he's like, do you want me to
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: sleep on top? And she's like no, no, give me
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: a second, Give me.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: A few minutes to get ready, and she goes and
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: gets ready, and yeah, it's like it's she's she's kind
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: of like taken her sexual she wants to like she's
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: made a decision about tonight's opportunity.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Speaking of making a decision, the mom makes a decision,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Corey Feldman's mom makes a decision to go outside. We
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: don't see her death. We don't see her ever again
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: actually in which I was taking So they're not even
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: gonna have a mom mom where I like the corpse
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: falls out of the closet.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Mom totally we needed a scene like that. But like
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: does the mom die? Does she ever come back? I
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe she comes back. She maybe she goes back.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes the Star Trek leaves things ambiguous so that
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: it can pick it up later and be like this
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: is what we always meant to do, This was what
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: we wrote about this. Yeah, So I don't know. I
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: think that the mom is was a cool character. I
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: was sad to see her gone. She just kind of
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: like mysteriously disappears, like they do put some intrigue around it.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because they set up like they set up looking
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: for the mom with Corey Feldman and the sister.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Who joined them, Yeah, exactly, and and Rob the nob
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: basically gets found by her, oh in the tent, and
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: he chops the tent. Yeah, he like slices the tent.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, are you trying to do kill me?
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: And he's like, who have a crazy lunatic? What do
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: you think?
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, I'm just a different kind of crazed lunatic.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: But that's that said to me an interesting parallel, because
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: what you could have done, what you could have done
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: is mysteriously people are dying. He's a vagrant who comes
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: to town. We don't know Jason's still alive because he's
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: murdered his way out of the hospital. Somebody stole the
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: body or whatever. So like, maybe the cops look for
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: that guy because he's some fucking vagrant loser, right, and
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: then they start chasing him, and then more bodies show up,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: and more cops bodies show.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: But then there's not enough opportunity for it to be
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: horned up teens though.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: That that's true, but you like, you don't necessarily need
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: to horn up teens all the time. But got three
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: movies of horned up teams.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: But that's kind of the whole point. Yeah, it's becoming
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: the point because that's the thing. So this is what's
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: interesting now about the self glorification is like it's it's
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: it is kind of like stallone in many ways because
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: it like the bloat of it becomes the like lore,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: it becomes like no, no, it's cool because he's a guy.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Then he made it, and then you know, he kept
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: making it. You know, he just kept making it and
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: like and like I feel like Jason is our anti
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: hero dude, Like we just want to see him succeed
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: in life, and like we want horned up teenagers for
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: him to like as like a sacrifice to this guy.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Speaking of succeeding Chrispin Glover, Crispin Helen Glover at this point.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: At this point is like after that dance, he adopted
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: the Hellian am I a dead fuck? And she's like
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: what never heard that expression? Uh? No, you were fine? No,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: She's like I was fine. I was fine. He's really
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: happy about being fine. Like she's like, in fact, I
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: want to fuck again in kind of a way where
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, I don't know, it was fine, dude,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: it was yeah, totally, it was. You're cute. Let's would
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: bang again. I would bang again, it would do. No
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: women had orgasms, So now the orgasm app has made smaller,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: maybe to fifty percent because there's so many fucking little losers. Yeah,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: totally one hundred percent. That's what the society would have
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: you believed, dude of the eighties.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: This part was Crispin's most outrageous performance. When he's asking
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: for the corkscrew and he's.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Like, damn, damn, where is the corkscrew? Where is the corkscrew?
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: And then the corkscrew stabs into his hand and Jason, Jason,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Jason's being kind of like Freddy. This this was Freddy coincidentally,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: this is the same year the first Freddy came out.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: And he like he pokes him in the hand like
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: in a way, like you know, he's using props to
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: reference things, like he's becoming referential Jason. Yeah, he's it's
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: not above him to be like, I've got a cork
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: screw right here, screw you. Yeah, without saying a word, dude. Absolutely. Uh.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: And then does Jason ever talk? I feel like talking
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Jason would jump the shark. I don't think so. I
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: don't remember him talking.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I feel like he makes like grunting sounds more and
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: speaking of sounds, Jason climbs up the house as the
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: other twin looks out the window to see where her
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: sister is, and she sees that the two bikes are
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: still there, the twin bikes, and.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Like, were these real bodies falling out of like two
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: story houses onto cars? It was crazy? It was crazy.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Dude did a really good job. They did a really
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: good job. And this is where we find out that
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Rob the Knob is fucking psycho. Like it's a little
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: bit weird and scary. I would be scared if I was.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I was tish. What do you mean what like of
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: of Rob? Yeah, dude, it would be. He's scary. He's
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: a scary dude. He becomes less like I'm just as unhinged. Yeah,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: what is he? He's he's in a forest with magazine
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: articles because of his sister, like two years ago. What's
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: going on? Dude? Like, I mean, I get it, Like
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I would be upset if somebody kills you too, But
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I would go to a forest, dude,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I mean I would expect you to go to a forest.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: I would expect you to ride your bicycle next to
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: my next to my bus where I'm being jailed. Oh,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: I would of course do that, but like, yeah, I
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: would of course ride my bicycle side faster than a
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: bus two one thousand faster than a buzz Yeah, dude, amazing.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: The pornos stop and the guy watching them is so
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: high and I'm laughing so much. This is what high
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: people are, Like what high people are? Hey, I don't
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: know if you know, this is what high And I'm like, okay,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: it was kind of funny though. It was kind of
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: funny because it's it's laurified. It's like outrageous performance laurified.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, totally. It's teens now, like Danty Buldroote teens.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: These movies be like I'm so weird, like everyone making
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: the most insane choices. Yeah, as the two other teens
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: are having sex in a shower and she sees a
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: very very sexy see very sexy. This was also the
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: sexiest of the movies, so definitely, I was like, holy shit. Yeah,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: they're just like literally almost pornos. They're basically was like
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: so many movies.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: And she gets immediately act in the chest and now
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Corey Feldman and Tish the Dish have become main characters.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: This is where I was like why, I was like
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: a little bit like.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: You didn't need the other stuff.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Not that you didn't need the other stuff, it's just
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: that the focus is a little bit too messy, and
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: like if you're not having a final girl within the group,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: the final girl or the final boy, the final psycho
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: vagrant vagabond that you meet needs to somehow connect with
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: the group. That's that's it.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Tried to make too many people SCHWARTZI you know what
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, and like you need one Schwartzy at the
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: end exactly. And yeah, so I think that, yeah, because
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: of that, it does feel messy. But like I then again,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: when I think about all the characters, like I'm loving retelling,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: and I'm loving like you know, like I'm loving thinking
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: about the characters and their stories.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. The phone doesn't work. They want to call
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: the police, but Jason, with his disgusting nails, breaks off
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: the phone like ripped gross nail.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Jason is gross. Where You're just like, no, what was
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: the name of this Jason, dude? Just Jason. He was
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: John Wayne's stunt double. How did you guess? Ted White?
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Ted White? The best Jason apparently according to two Kays, Yeah,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: which we'll see. I don't know. I don't know. I
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: don't know if I would even say he's the best
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: of the ones we've seen so far. I disagree, Yeah,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I disagree with him a lot. I think the third
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Jason is the best case dude. No, actually, I think
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: long hair Jason is the part two Jason with sliced
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: face Jason. Yeah. Man, I love that they keep the
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: scars yea. And they like of the on the face
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: and like they like add to like the cut, and
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: like the way his face looks, and we'll talk about that.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: I can't believe. I can't believe that he was Is
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: he unmasked in every movie? Is every movie like this
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: is the unmasking part? Do the unmaskings get lurified? I
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Actually, that's a good question. I don't remember them enough
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: to be like, yeah, yeah, Trish and Rob go to
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: the next to the house next door, which is the
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: connecting point between them.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: But still it feels.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: A little bit like I need more of the connection
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: to be like, yeah, it's.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: They didn't even like they didn't even like have a
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: lot of interaction between the characters. It was just they met,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: and there was this allure of like, this is what
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: I thought found interesting in this movie, This kind of
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: like allure of of like the privileges of like late teenagehood,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: of like the freedom to get to like smoke pot
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: and fuck and like drink and you know, like go
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: to a cabin, you know. But like so like it
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: kind of felt like they were trying to keep Trish
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: and Ascension Millennium away from that, Like they were trying
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: to keep Tommy like Tommy a kid, you know, and
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: like he just wants to jerk off to it. He
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to necessarily like go be a part of it.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: And Jason could relate to that way more than actually
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: fucking it. That's an interesting point. It does feel like
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: almost like the movie is happening around a kid, and
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: the in interpretation of this movie is through the kid's eyes. Yeah,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: and this is why the fourth one is so much
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: more outrageous and why it's maybe the most beloved, because
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: it kind of plays to those kids sensibilities totally. Why
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: does the dog jump out the window? What's the dog's name? Again?
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: The dog's name was something like that sounded more like
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: a human name, And then they kept saying Tommy and
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: then this other name, and I was like, who's but
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: I know the kids Tommy. That's why I was like, no, no,
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: the kid's Tommy. Yeah, Harrison, is it something Garrison? Maybe
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: it's weird, weird, weird. I don't we was watching it
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: with me for a vine. She was like, who's Garrison?
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean the dog was a danimul room dude.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: And then they have their their fight in the basement.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Trish comes down to try and like it's just basement now,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: uh and uh oh man, the way the fucking rob
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: the knob dies and it just like brutally like slamming
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: the fucking machete into him.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: And then like Trish is amazing because she come she
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: comes back up and grabs the knife and it goes
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: back down and it's like, whoa dude, You're like, this
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: is a fucking scary man. Yeah, but like she comes out,
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: it's a little bit get away from her, you bitch,
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: which I was like, this is kind of awesome that
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: instead of like running from the thing, you're going back.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: And then she doesn't see him and he breaks.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Through the floor and she like y, she kind of
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: like pursues j Yeah, it's kind of cool. It is cool.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: When does she chop his handed half? Who chops his
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: hand in half? She does? And butcher's knife.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like she sees some of the bodies, she
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: sees a twin, she sees Crispin.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: The in his hands. He's crucified on to the door
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: and they do a cool move where when she opens
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: the door his head tilts down. Yeah.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: And then Jason, when he goes through the hands that
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: I thought that was great, dude.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: The rip through the hands is iconic, dude.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Because she breaks through the window of the kitchen to
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: run away, and she like locks herself into her home
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: with with uh ascension millennium and fucking Jason just.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Throws rob the knob through the window. Dude. I was like,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: holy shit. And and he's like the throwing through windows
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: is also very Jason laurified. I love, I love someone
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: being thrown through a window. Motion. Throwing through a window
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: is always fun.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: And then he grabs the kid and you're like, oh
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: my god, is he gonna kill fucking it's very Feldman.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: He's very stalker Jason in this. It's it's very there's
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: a menace that's like out of control in this one. Yeah,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: it seems like he's like unstoppable in a way that
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: we haven't seen Jason before. Totally. It's hypered it up
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: for sure. Totally every movie does it. Yeah, and do
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: you think do you think it's successfully hypered it up?
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Match books for my honor detailing, I had print it,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: print it, I had print it up. I think it
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: did it? Did it? Definitely did? Yeah? Okay, so where
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: where are we in the movie? They run upstairs to
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: hide in Corey Feldman's like room, and they like blockaded,
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: and Jason fucking breaks through and she slams the TV
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: on Jason's head. Jason was on TV, dude, it was
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: he chops through. He like weird hears Johnny's he chops
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: through the fucking thing. Yeah, yeah, he totally uh And yeah,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: like a lot of referential Jason in this, like very
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: very not afraid to reference Jason, but like to making
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: it so iconic.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: And like the fact that he's like not dead and
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: she tries to get away with him, and it's like
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: in that wide shot he tries to like slash her
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: with an axe and Corey Felton's like no, no, and
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Jason's like kind of confused.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love the confused Jason. Dude, we'll
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: talk about confused Jason, like by pornography, by confusion pornography, Jason, Jason, Well,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. The weird,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: weird thing that happens in this movie, dude, and amazing
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: that happened. She runs the other house again, and I
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: love the that she turns around and Jason just standing
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: there the looming lumin because he does he does loom
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: a lot more in this movie. He becomes more ghostly, he.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: More ghostly, and then she fucking jumps up the dude.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: That was so insane, man, Trista Dish. Yeah, she's the
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: most formidable foe. Really fucking cool. Yeah, she survives and
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: like flying out windows and ship. She'll need surgery, but
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: she'll be fine. And then he comes out, He walks
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: out menacingly, and fucking Corey Feldman is cutting his hair off. Okay,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: so the most insane decision of all time. This is
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: the kind of thing that if you hear described, you're like, wait,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: what happens, But like when you're watching it, you're like,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: it's it's cool because I because at first you're like,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: why the fuck is this kid? They reference that he
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: needs a haircut earlier, by the way, which we didn't say,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: but and he's got his signature like Bob hair.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: What I really loved is when she comes back. She
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: tell before she leaves to get Jason away from him,
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: she's like.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Run, liked she says, run like hell.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Like hell, And then fucking is she comes back and
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: she's she hears him and she's like, why why didn't
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: you leave? Like in an exasperate in kind of a
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: hilarious way, but in totally a way that would be like,
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: oh my god, dude, I told you.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: No. I loved I love that because the payoff of
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: what's happening is so interesting. But he's like become like
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: they kind of fast track a little bit of like
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: he's found the articles and he's read all of his
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: like magazine clippings.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: It would have been cool if you brought us the Knob,
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: And then he finds out about Rob the Knob, first
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: finds the articles, becomes obsessed with Jason, is like figuring
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: out a way to like find Jason or something.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: No, just make the kid obsessed with Jason that's that's
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Ok yeah, where it's like he's like thinks Rob the
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: Knob is cool and then become wants to become like him,
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: but then becomes inadvertently obsessed with Jason.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Right, and so okay, but they do do that. They
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: do kind of do that through the movie. It's like
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: like in a way where it's like, oh, they just well,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: like you said, they fast track it well, and him
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: going back takes on a different meaning once we know
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: what's happened at the end, which we'll get to. And
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: then the shaving, I'd like, it was so weird, and
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: then he purposely left like patches of like long hair
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: because he wanted to look like Jason. He wanted to
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: look like little kid Jason. And they bring back part
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: one in a weird way of like the kid lore
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: because like, I don't know, it's always so inexplicable that
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: he's a kid in the first one and then suddenly
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: an adult. Yeah totally, but they kind of try the
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: tooth with that by making this kid Jason. Yeah exactly.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Uh And as Jason comes in, she fucking slices between
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: his uh.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Finger and his middle finger. Yeah. That like and the
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: the like the hand, the total recall hand dude, him
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: moving that he does as it's like falling apart. It's
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: so tom Savidi being like, look, how goofy I made.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Just wait to see Jason's face. He's the goopy is
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: And then she he grabs her down and she's like
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: he's like punching her in the face and uh. And
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: then he comes down and he's.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: Like cool, balding dude, a little bit of scratches on
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: his head from the shaving, uh.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: And like him being like, Jason, do you recognize me?
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: Jason?
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: And like they made he made himself up a little bit,
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: gave himself a little bit of bess Era to like
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: like make himself more deadly dead looking. Weird weird choice.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Weird choice, like imagine pitching it though. And then the
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: kid Tommy who's supposed to be the audience, gets obsessed
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: with Jason and wants to be Jason, which is it's
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: kind of like referencing itself of like how kids want
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: to be Jason totally like for Halloween. Yeah yeah, yeah totally.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Because then what happens is she smacks the mask off
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: his face and now he's like getting a little bit
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: puffy we a little he does he look to you like?
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: They were also referencing another movie that another iconic movie
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: that Corey Feldon was in, Hey You Go. Did they
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: make him look more like a little bit a little bit? Yeah?
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: I I.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, yeah, I think so. I feel like I
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: don't know if it's the same year though, is it?
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: No, it's later. Goonies was eighty two.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: No, Goonies is eighty five and this was eighty four,
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: So maybe they goonied.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Maybe goonyed this movie. We all know who goonied well man.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: But I love I love the fact that he goes
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: crazy and he's just like she slashes him in the head,
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Jason in the head, and then when the head falls
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: and then the knife.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude. I filmed my first reaction of
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: this to Kys. Can I play it for you? Sure?
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Because I was like, man, you have to hear this
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: first reaction of this. I mean, yeah, dude, like the
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: like because it would if you fell on the handle
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: of the knife, it would push out through to the
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: other side. That's me reacting to Tommy being going fucking
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: insane that I've lived the camera on to myself. Jason
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: goes to stay alive one more time and to and
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Tommy freaks out and is like and murders him even more. Uh,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: and it kind of yeah, it is kind of a commentary,
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: meta commentary on like what are we doing to the children?
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Kids want to be Jason now? Yeah, and yeah he
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: does want to be Jason. We all want to be
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: And it's kind of cool the way that this plays
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: out because like he gets some kind of like insaneane
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: like superhuman strength Tommy does, and he starts just like
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: chopping Jason's head with the machete in like like a
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: crazy fever, like like we just like it freeze frames
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: onto his head and then like explodes into white. Yeah,
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: it's crazy. It's like a nothing like we've ever seen
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: an adjacent movie.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: It's nothing like we've ever seen yeah. Uh And but
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: still keeping within the lore, final girl survives. She gets
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: to a hospital. Doctor says she's crazy, yeah, and that.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: She'll needs surgery. Yeah, she's damaged. Goods now, sweetheart. And
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: also this idea that like, well you can obviously see
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: him and like we get this final scene of Corey
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: Feldman opening his eyes after like hugging his sister and
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: like loving her. Uh and he opens his eyes and
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: you know, menacing Jason Way. It freeze frames and goes
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: to white again and that's the end. So we get like,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: at this point, Jason is so laurified, it's so sawified
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: that it knows it's going to get the sequel. So
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: it's like, it's like, Jason.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: We got a set up, Corey Feldman get in the
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: fifth one.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Dude. But what's awesome? I mean, that's amazing. What's what's
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: also incredible? Tommy trilogy? Dude? Did you see did you
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: see at the beginning of the movie. I don't know
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: if you noticed this, but there's originally I think two
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: writers of the first one and then in this one,
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, based on the character, and they include
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: the other writers of the other movies because they do
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: laurify it because they're like, oh, yeah, these guys make
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Jason as well. Yeah no, and they're saying, we're sticking
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: to this story. We like this story to stick the way.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: I really really enjoyed it. Yeah, it's it's so this
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: is like the fan favorite. This is the fan favorite.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: We both see. Why do you how do you feel
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: about that? As as it like a we're becoming. I
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: think I'm becoming a Jason guy. Now. I don't know
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: if you are. I still need to be sold a
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: little more.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: My experience with Jason is like, Okay, the first one
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: has the twist, third one has the mask.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: I have good memories. I saw Jason three with you
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: at the Paradise the last year it was opened. That
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: was fun. That was like one of the first three
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: D movies I ever saw. Like that wasn't like like
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: that was film for film for that. And then you know,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: like ten is the best one, Like ten is still
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: the one I've seen the most because it was on
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: TMN all the time, and David cronenbergs, well, it's the
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: most Canadian of it's the most Vancouver. Yeah, I mean, listen,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: I I like this one. I like this one a lot.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: I think this is probably my favorite we've seen so far.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: I think I bought the little kidness of it, you know,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: like I was. I felt, I think you need to
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: let yourself go in it a little bit more because
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: it's it's it is. It's not meant to be taken seriously, dude,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: It's meant to be taken in a way where it's
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: like No, we're in on this with you. We know
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: how silly this is. We know the parts of this
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: that you like, and we're going to keep making them.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: We're going to keep making them. We're going to do
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: it in a way that you don't even expect. And like,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: I think that's what's like exciting about it. It becomes
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: about the lore, right, Yeah.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: But where my disappointment is because what I'll do, like
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: I'll give it. I'm going to give it as a movie,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: probably like a seven point five, because.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: I liked it.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: I liked a lot of it, and I think that
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: it's a good movie. I enjoyed watching it.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: I think that I prefer.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: A Jason that is more involved. I want Jason that's
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: more involved. I want it to be about him.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: You know, as I'm listening to you like talk about this,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: I do think that in any ways, the third one
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: is the best one. I do too. I think the
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: third one is it's been It's like I think, like
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: I think this one wants to do the third one better. Yeah,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: but the third one is better. I think the third
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: one as just a movie is better. Yeah.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: And they get progressively more and more, they get better
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: as they go along. And then this is my first
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: sort of like it's a bit of a stumble. It's
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: a good movie.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: It's better than I mean, it's better than some of
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: the Saw movies in terms of like listen, I can't
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: really fault this one though, Like, yeah, no, it delivers levels,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: and I think it like it goes above and beyond
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: in a way that like I think you'll only be
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: able to appreciate later. Yeah, I think so too.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: That's why I'm like hemming and hawing, because like I
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: don't know if I'm gonna see a Jason get stabbed
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: in the head and then the head falls down and
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: the knife goes.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Down even further.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: Because that was such a like they laughed so much
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: on set or they were like, oh.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: My god, it worked. It fucking worked. It looks How
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: did it look to It looks so good? Yeah it is.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: Oh man, It's like when I shoot a thing with
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: you and I'm like, oh my god, it looks so good.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that. I think that, like it's it's
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: not going to get like after part four. It's part five,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, and a part five
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: of a thing is already like people are going to
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: make fun of you, and you're not going to be
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: taken serious, especially if you call this one the final chapter.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna be taken seriously and like and that's okay,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: But you just need to kind of live with that,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: and you need to like lean into that, and you
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: need to make it about that, right, Yeah, you need
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: to make it about what it means to the culture.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Like this is now something that people look forward to
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: the next one coming out, you know, like next Halloween whatever. Yeah,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: totally exactly, next Friday the thirteenth, exactly. Yeah. Also the
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: just abandonment of like, well, Friday the thirteenth, Friday the
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: thirteenth has nothing to do with with it's just like, oh,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: it has bad luck associated with it, and then just
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: like oh, well it's I guess it's just about Jason.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Now you know he was born on Friday the thirteenth.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: It's about his birthday. It's about Jason. The whole series
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: is about Jason. That's why you can't have a Friday
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: without him. Yeah, it's Friday, dude, It's Frida fright. Exactly.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: Got to get thirteen Friday exactly, thirteen reasons why, thirteen
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: reasons Friday thirteen Reasons Friday, and this is the most
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: thirteen Reasons of them.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: Dude, Oh, we should have totally called this season thirteen
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: Reasons Friday.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: It's an interesting It's an interesting Laura. I find it
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: so fascinating that I'm so sold on it and I'm
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: so excited for the next ones. But you're having like
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: a harder time, Like it almost seems like you're not
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: like like you're enjoying them, but like, I don't know,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: it feels like you're a little bit like I don't
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: know what's What's what I'm trying to do.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm trying to get I'm trying to get into
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to get into two states of mind, enjoying
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: them as I go along, but also like critiquing them
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: as movies, because you know, it's just like I can't
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: hide the fact that I'm like, well, I kind of.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: Enjoyed the third one more, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: not because I don't enjoy a lot of the stuff,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: whether it be or yeah, audacious kills or but like
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: I I do miss a little bit of like, well
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: it's about Jason, you know, yeah, well yeah, and and
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: even even I don't know if I buy Jason showing
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: up to himself as a child, you know what I mean, Like,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know if if Jason seeing himself as a
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: bald child is gonna like evoke the same kind of
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: reaction from him that's seeing his dead.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: Mom will that's true, but also it's just it's generally
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: just a really cool idea.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: That brich Mechler's cool idea exactly, the idea that you're
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: gonna use this emotional core to reference both the first
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: one with the kid Jason, You're gonna reference the second
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: one where Jason taught, like the woman puts on the shirt,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: is that the second one or the third one? That's
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: the second one?
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like that's all cool, that's all really great.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: It just needs a better setup. I need more character
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: development from the kid.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, from Tommy. From Tommy, Yeah,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: where it's like, oh, that's why I suggested the like, oh,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: maybe he gets obsessed with the guy, and well I
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: feel like gonna like Tommy's about to get laurified, you know,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: like I think Tommy's in the next few movies. Maybe
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see, do you not know? I don't know.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: I don't remember any of them. Oh okay, I think
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: we're entering what's often referred to as the Tommy trilogyne awesome,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: so we can look forward to that. But like, do
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: you like, what are you what are your expectations? Like,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: do you have like I mean, there's gotta be some voodoo. Dude.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: What's cool though? Is what's Oh, it's fine, it's fine.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: What's cool is that what you said isn't hasn't been
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: true yet. He's only he's only been at Camp Crystal
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Lakes so far. He's not been anywhere else other than
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: Camp Crystal Lake. Dude, like in the vicinity of where
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: he lives, he hasn't What did I say? You said
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: that he like travels around. I mean like he's gonna
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: get into space.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: What I mean by travel around is like Camp Crystal
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: Lake is what what people like this? This is like
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: near the lake.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: But it's like in the town, you know what I mean.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: It's not like like these aren't teens that have gone
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: to Crystal Lake again, These are like teens in a
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: house right in a house next to this other house.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: Right, So I'm like, wait, wait what you know what
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: Whereas like Crystal Lake, those like arc type things that
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: they've made for for people just kind of associate those
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: things with Jason, you know what I mean. But he
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: does he goes around, you know, he's just like he's
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: like a vagrant, you know.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: What I mean, Jason, and he comes back, but he
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: goes to the hospital. The power of the movies continuing
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: exactly where the other movies leave off is gives it
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: kind of a thing. It gives it a locomotion that
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: like is like you're like, oh, he's now on a spree.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: He's on a spree because he's he's been set off
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: and like it's not stopped for him, like he's just
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: continuing his spree and they just need extra movies to
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: tell his story. Yeah. Absolutely, So that's what makes it
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: cool is that his story continues. Yeah, totally totally. And
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: then it matters more about what his kill count is.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: I remember kill count's being talked about as in referred
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: in reference to Freddy, and I'm like, Freddie's not a
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: kill count guy, Like, it doesn't matter how many people
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: Freddy's killed. Freddie is more about the terror he brings, yeah,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: and Jason is about the kill count. Jason is about
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: the number. He's the numbers guy. He's all about the numbers.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: He's got the biggest audiences. He's killed the most people. WHOA,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: why did you make that face? Nothing, I'm just reckoning
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: a little bit with my laptop with what with my laptop?
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Oh fuck, I'm so sorry. Oh that's okay, it's fine. Yeah.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: So how many machetes would you give it? That?
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: Also give it a seven point five? Yeah, like I miss,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: I miss because it's not quite bloated Jason, and it's
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: not quite like, not quite fully formed Jason is always
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: great because you're seeing like baby steps, yeah, but not
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: a bloated Jason where the mask is like sunken in
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: to the skin.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: You love it, I love it.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: I love it where where the meat of the veil
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: if you feel like you could, it's like wet under
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: there and and like like a goop would be like oh.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: There's definitely like a film both on the mask and
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: on Jason used to the face. That's the Jason I want.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: You want? You want the film Jason? You want like
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: a goop being a little sliced off. Yeah yeah, okay, Well,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: I mean I hope we get some of that, dude,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: And I like this, Jason. I think he was, like
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: he's brought on the idea of like like can't be
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: stopped train Jason, and I did believe it body wise
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: and the way it was shot and cut. And he's
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: running too, there's running scary, scary of a man. Yeah,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: scary Jason, dude. Yeah. Yeah, it's less farmer Jason. It totally,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: it's less like hillbilly Jason. Yeah, he's he's he's done some,
• 1:11:19
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• 1:12:02
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• 1:12:04
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• 1:12:08
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• 1:12:14
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• 1:12:16
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• 1:12:22
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