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RHOA’s Drew Sidora Exclusive One On One · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,
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  Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most
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  Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten
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  Speaker 1: years of production experience. Twice a week on Reality with
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  Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the
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  Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit un
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  Speaker 1: forget about moments that we are still talking and tweeting about.
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  Speaker 2: Also as.
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  Speaker 3: What you're doing.
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  Speaker 4: Taking care of myself okay, yes, putting me first, that's
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  Speaker 4: the name of the game.
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  Speaker 1: I want to be able to lie because listen is
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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And the beauty of Reality with the King is I'm
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  Speaker 1: stepping into your reality.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm here, Yes, we are here, and I want
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  Speaker 3: to get in the booth.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yes, the song the mic is on. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I like it. Tour, have you on my stage?
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  Speaker 1: We're going on tour.
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  Speaker 2: We're going on tour.
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  Speaker 3: Before we get on.
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  Speaker 4: Tour, I okay, okay, we gotta spill the tea, all right,
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  Speaker 4: all right, because you know, music is like your baby,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, So it really matters out
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  Speaker 4: of all the work that I've done in my life.
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  Speaker 4: It really matters the most what people feel and and
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  Speaker 4: vibe and and think of my music and me as
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  Speaker 4: a musical artist.
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  Speaker 2: You know, this, by far was my scariest bike. You
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  Speaker 2: know venture I can say thus far in my whole career.
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  Speaker 5: Believe it or not, I've heard nothing you said because
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  Speaker 5: I'm distracted by your beauty.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, listen that lefore we did, We did that phase.
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  Speaker 2: You know what it is?
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  Speaker 1: I think I met you before, but your energy and
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  Speaker 1: your vibe is giving like not not that you weren't
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  Speaker 1: confident when I met you, but it's giving a certain
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  Speaker 1: level of.
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  Speaker 5: Calmness, serenity, happiness.
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  Speaker 3: You know what it is. It's giving freedom. I feel
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  Speaker 3: like you're free, you know what I'm saying. And and honey,
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  Speaker 3: you are beat to the gods.
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  Speaker 2: You are listening for you, I had to from head
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  Speaker 2: to toe.
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  Speaker 4: I called him the best glam okay that I know
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  Speaker 4: in all of Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: So did you pay them? Because they said, are we
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  Speaker 1: starting off?
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  Speaker 2: Listen? Nobody?
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  Speaker 3: I don't don't know.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, let's talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: Do you want to?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, let's talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody said, what are your former Okay? Uh huh, said
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  Speaker 1: that you did not pay him, and he's waiting for him.
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  Speaker 4: That one to be my face today, the one that
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  Speaker 4: be my face today, said.
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  Speaker 3: That is he?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was here, they saw him. Yeah, he'd be
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  Speaker 4: my face today. He was here for he bay for
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  Speaker 4: his job back.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes, are you hello, freedom on the beat? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: What's freedom on the beat today?
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  Speaker 3: Guys?
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  Speaker 2: And he did it for my assistants there, he did
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  Speaker 2: it for Oh. Oh okay, let's talk about it because
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  Speaker 2: what they say is a lot of things. But I
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  Speaker 2: am here with you to clear up the lies.
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  Speaker 4: It takes a lots of gag Carlos, no lies so ever.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, so the check cleared.
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  Speaker 2: The check always.
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  Speaker 4: Clears, honey, because my bland can tell you, my people.
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  Speaker 4: I really pride myself because I've been in businesses two
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  Speaker 4: thousand and five.
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  Speaker 2: I've been working since I was eight years old.
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  Speaker 3: In Hollywood twenty years.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we're gonna thank you, thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: My mom was my business manager growing up, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: she taught me and instilled in me like good work,
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  Speaker 4: habits and integrity, you know, and so paying people with
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  Speaker 4: my little business, you know, the.
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  Speaker 2: Little engine that could. I really am happy to be
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  Speaker 2: able to pay my invoices.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I didn't even he yet, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean, So it's okay.
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  Speaker 3: Also need to love about net thirty.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even do net thirty, don't.
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  Speaker 4: I just learned about net thirty and I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 4: hold on because my people like same day service, the
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  Speaker 4: zell and the wires and so now we've done like
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  Speaker 4: a three to five business days.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, that's good. I want a few.
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  Speaker 4: Voices on Christmas Eve and I'm like, I wasn't my kids,
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  Speaker 4: but I still send it because you know, I know
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  Speaker 4: how important it is for the house. So like, I
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  Speaker 4: really treat my people well. Like I have chefs. Everybody
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  Speaker 4: knows my chef.
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  Speaker 2: I've had her on my chef.
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  Speaker 4: I keep a chef, and I love to throw those
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  Speaker 4: appreciations in employee engagement, dinner's, lunches, pool parties, Like I
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  Speaker 4: really appreciate the people because I understand it takes a
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  Speaker 4: lot to show up, you know it does. It takes
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  Speaker 4: a team, and it's not just me operating it. So
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  Speaker 4: all those things you hear, I'm here to tell you
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  Speaker 4: don't believe it.
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  Speaker 3: Well no, but that's amazing. Why I am here.
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  Speaker 5: This has been two years in the making. I wanted
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  Speaker 5: to talk to you.
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  Speaker 1: Last season things can't work out logistically, and this year
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  Speaker 1: we get a chance to sit down and clear the air.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: I know that you know that.
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  Speaker 5: And it's funny because when I met you for the
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  Speaker 5: first time at Si Bashery fashion show and he was like, you.
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  Speaker 2: Don't like me? What do you mean, Drew. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying anything bad about you.
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  Speaker 3: You don't like me, I said, Drew, I actually like
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  Speaker 3: you a lot.
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  Speaker 5: But what I will say this season on the Real
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  Speaker 5: Housewives of Atlanta Season sixteen, it's an amazing season and
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  Speaker 5: we are being Drew Sidora.
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  Speaker 2: Oh thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Feel the difference with the audience reception of you this
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  Speaker 1: season than past seasons.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I try not to get caught up in
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  Speaker 4: that because I kind of just since I've come on
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  Speaker 4: the show, it's like I just let the cameras catch
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  Speaker 4: me where I am. I live my reality and I
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  Speaker 4: kind of leave it there, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, I hear things.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, people keep me in tune with what's going on,
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  Speaker 4: but I really don't know what the fans want, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I hear things. Of course I see a few things,
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  Speaker 4: but I really just try to stay in my truth
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  Speaker 4: and in my integrity, and I just feel like, for
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  Speaker 4: whatever reason, I've gotten some labels that just are not real,
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I wanted to.
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  Speaker 4: Sit down with you because you know, you may talk
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  Speaker 4: to people here and there and do your little interviews,
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  Speaker 4: but I felt like with you, what I appreciate is
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  Speaker 4: that you are able to humanize things, and I felt like,
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  Speaker 4: from the first time we talked, like you actually care,
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  Speaker 4: you know, And I just wanted to be able to
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  Speaker 4: have this moment to sit down to just clear up
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  Speaker 4: a lot of the misconceptions about me and just really
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  Speaker 4: give an opportunity unfiltered to talk about, you know, everything anything.
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  Speaker 2: I'm an open book, always have been.
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  Speaker 4: But sometimes what you see in the matter of a
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  Speaker 4: couple of minutes doesn't tell the full story.
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  Speaker 5: No, And as a producer, I know that I know them,
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  Speaker 5: know that. And listen, when you came on the show,
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  Speaker 5: we were all excited. We know you from the game
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  Speaker 5: you play Iconic t on T Boss Watkins and the
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  Speaker 5: TLC biopic on VH one.
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  Speaker 3: You had a long career.
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  Speaker 1: I love going on Twitter and seeing old movie clips
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  Speaker 1: of you. I know, right, you know what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of us are reminded that Juice Door
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  Speaker 1: has always been that girl. So when you got on
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  Speaker 1: the show, there was this, and we talked about this
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  Speaker 1: off camera a couple of years ago. There was this
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  Speaker 1: perception that, Okay, it's giving Tyler Perry movies.
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  Speaker 3: You know, is Drew acting?
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  Speaker 1: Is she not able to sit in the moment? And
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  Speaker 1: I remember talking to you about that, just us Chatty,
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  Speaker 1: and I want the world to know this. When I
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  Speaker 1: said that to you to your face, you did not
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  Speaker 1: understand it, and you were so caught off guard. You said, Carlos,
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  Speaker 1: do you really think I'm not being real? And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, it comes across a little acting, and you
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  Speaker 1: were so.
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  Speaker 5: Not upset by that's the wrong word, but you were
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  Speaker 5: perplexed by that comment. I want to talk to you
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  Speaker 5: about that because I said it on my podcast before, like.
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  Speaker 3: Is it acting?
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  Speaker 1: And your reaction to me was so real. So I
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about that. Why were you shocked by
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  Speaker 1: that response that I gave you?
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, I was shocked because, like I said, I never
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  Speaker 4: really get caught up in what the fans say, or
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  Speaker 4: I'm an actress, you know, if people didn't like me
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  Speaker 4: from this role or that's that role or the game,
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  Speaker 4: and it's like, okay, that's my work, and I kind
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  Speaker 4: of just leave it there and move on to the next.
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  Speaker 4: So with this, I'm like I chose to come on
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  Speaker 4: reality because it was not something I ever saw myself doing,
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  Speaker 4: but because I felt like people have seen me in
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  Speaker 4: these various roles but never seen me as like the
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  Speaker 4: human being that I am and seeing the good, the bad,
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  Speaker 4: the ugly.
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  Speaker 2: The struggle.
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  Speaker 4: And I felt like after COVID, you know, I was
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  Speaker 4: going through like a rupture to Achilles, and I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I want to just be more vulnerable, you know. I
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  Speaker 4: want to have an opportunity to connect with my family
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  Speaker 4: and just show me as more of like the mother,
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  Speaker 4: the wife, the sister, you know, all of the things
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  Speaker 4: that I am. So I was taking a bags. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: all I did was show my true self. I came
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  Speaker 4: on the show in an Achilles rupture, boot I didn't
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  Speaker 4: come on the show in alul Baton. I was literally
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  Speaker 4: at my lowest and so I really just let go
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  Speaker 4: of all of what people would expect me to appear.
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  Speaker 2: And was my most rawish self.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, and everything that I've shown has been my
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  Speaker 4: real life. So when you said it to me, I
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  Speaker 4: was like, wait what because there was never any thought
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  Speaker 4: that it wasn't, you know what I mean, real, because
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  Speaker 4: I was living and sitting in my truth to the
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  Speaker 4: point where I came on.
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  Speaker 2: The show really to show like black love, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Ralph and I talked about showing black love family believers.
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  Speaker 4: We showed my church, my mom had, you know. That
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  Speaker 4: was what we wanted, and where we ended up was
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  Speaker 4: completely opposite. It was the toxicity of our marriage and
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  Speaker 4: that's not what I wanted. So that was actually my
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  Speaker 4: worst nightmare, you know what I mean. But when people
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  Speaker 4: thought it was fake, I'm like, I wish it was us,
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  Speaker 4: you know, because this is not the reality I ever wanted.
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  Speaker 2: To show the world.
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  Speaker 5: And we are seeing that reality this season because what
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  Speaker 5: we did learn this past episode was you guys, you
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  Speaker 5: and Ralph met and then y'all were together within three months, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: engaged within or married in five months.
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  Speaker 3: You were pregnant with the eight months. Now, rap is fine,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna give you that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, cornbreads bad.
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  Speaker 3: He looks like a big snickers, like you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, York's out in the gym.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, so I understand the acceleration.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yep, period, I.
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  Speaker 3: Get it, I get it, I get I get it.
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  Speaker 5: But in hindsight, knowing what you're going through now and
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  Speaker 5: we'll get to that, do you feel like Ralph gas.
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  Speaker 3: Lit you the moment y'all met.
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  Speaker 2: Coming right out with it right.
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  Speaker 4: That?
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  Speaker 2: Hu? That has been my most recent Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Tis shoot, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 4: Child.
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  Speaker 1: We are just getting started. This is reality with the
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  Speaker 1: King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.
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  Speaker 4: This is why, you know, it did take me a
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  Speaker 4: while to have this sit down because back then when
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  Speaker 4: you asked me, I knew I couldn't even get through
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  Speaker 4: a sentence really, you know at that time to talk
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  Speaker 4: through like my feelings. I am in a much better space,
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  Speaker 4: but there are still.
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  Speaker 2: Wounds, you know, that need to be healed. And I think.
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  Speaker 4: Because we are on this show and I'm watching things
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  Speaker 4: in real time with everyone and I'm seeing his actions
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  Speaker 4: and his behavior, it is having me to ponder what
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  Speaker 4: you just asked, which is like was it ever real?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 4: Everything I thought is having me to consider, like, but
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  Speaker 4: was it ever loved you know? Did he ever respect
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  Speaker 4: Because someone that would go and have dinner with your
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  Speaker 4: ops right and sit there and bash you, And let's
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  Speaker 4: be honest, like, I'm still the mother of his kids.
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  Speaker 4: We have kids together, we were married for now ten years,
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  Speaker 4: so I'm like, someone that loves you and that respects
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  Speaker 4: you as even just the mother of your kids wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: behave this way. So then I just said to someone,
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  Speaker 4: I said, unless they never really loved you and they
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  Speaker 4: never really respected you, And that's where my training thought
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  Speaker 4: has been. Because for me, I've never set out to
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  Speaker 4: bash Ralph. You know, I have done nothing but tried
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  Speaker 4: to protect him for his actions and tried to gain
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  Speaker 4: understanding for his actions. And I mean, as you see
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  Speaker 4: this season, I'm not sitting around talking about Ralph talking
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  Speaker 4: about my healing. And it was very, very hurtful to
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  Speaker 4: see that scene with him, Porsha and Shamiyah.
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  Speaker 5: When you saw Shami and Porsha, yeah, me with your
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  Speaker 5: strange husband.
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  Speaker 3: What was your knee jerk reaction to that knowledge?
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  Speaker 1: Like did you find out before the episode aired on
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  Speaker 1: the trailer? Even yeah, or even if you did, was
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  Speaker 1: it a gut punched to you to watch it and
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  Speaker 1: to hear what he's what he said, like, walk me
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  Speaker 1: through that moment, because listen, I love Porschasia, and I
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  Speaker 1: said this on my podcast. I said, look, I gotta
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  Speaker 1: be honest. I didn't like I didn't like it. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't like I didn't like the scene. And I give
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  Speaker 1: my reasons why.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like here to regurgitate that I'm not married to
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  Speaker 5: Rap and I don't have kids by him.
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  Speaker 3: So I am curious to.
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  Speaker 5: Know what were you feeling the moment you watching me
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  Speaker 5: and Porsche meet with Ralph.
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  Speaker 4: So during filming, I heard that they filmed together, but
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  Speaker 4: it was like variations, Like it almost sounded like they
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  Speaker 4: ran into each other at a restaurant, and so it
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  Speaker 4: was kind of like, oh, yeah, they had some words
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  Speaker 4: and that was it. I didn't know it was like
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  Speaker 4: a plan to sit down situation. So when I watched it,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, wait a minute, this is giving like a
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  Speaker 4: full scene. You know, this is like everyone new and
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  Speaker 4: they are here together and they're happy to see each other,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm like wow, and I like what they did.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to cover it in a meeting of a podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Oh I see what you try to do there, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: but it landed flat because as we see today, there
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  Speaker 4: is no King and Queen's podcast. You know, we don't,
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  Speaker 4: we don't. We're not seeing the manifestation of that. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I haven't seen it and nothing, and the.
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  Speaker 2: Album is on a music in iTunes.
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  Speaker 4: I know Ralph in the Basement is on his YouTube,
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  Speaker 4: but this other podcast was SHEMI.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't seen any remnants of that.
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  Speaker 4: But they had this meeting and so let's say respectfully,
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  Speaker 4: it's a business meeting, all right, all right, but it
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  Speaker 4: went into discussion of Drew and that's where I felt disrespected.
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  Speaker 4: I felt, you know, from from Ralph being still technically
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  Speaker 4: legally married.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, you're.
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  Speaker 4: Volunteering information that was between you and I. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you're sitting here entertaining text messages that aren't real because
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  Speaker 4: we haven't seen them. You know, you're entertaining basically a
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  Speaker 4: try of a takedown of me, a destruction of me
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  Speaker 4: and my character and really everything I've built since the
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  Speaker 4: age of eight. You know, it's like, on top of
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  Speaker 4: what I've built for myself as an actress, as a mother,
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  Speaker 4: and then as a wife, you're trying to destroy that,
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  Speaker 4: and I just didn't think it was necessary. I didn't
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  Speaker 4: think it was necessary. And then he never told me,
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  Speaker 4: he never divulged anything to me. I literally found everything
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  Speaker 4: out on the show, and I just felt like, regardless
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  Speaker 4: of if our relationship and our marriage is not working out,
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  Speaker 4: there's still just a level of respect that you should
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  Speaker 4: have for the mother of your kids.
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  Speaker 1: I felt so sorry for you when and you allowed
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  Speaker 1: us the viewers to follow you go to court and
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  Speaker 1: the judge at the end of the day did not
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  Speaker 1: do something that you wanted, which is I believe was
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  Speaker 1: the sealing, the unsealing, and he was gloating, and you
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  Speaker 1: were so frustrated you cried.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember that in that moment, I said, and
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  Speaker 3: I like Ralph. I met Ralph. He's a cool guy.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Again, I'm watching the show, so I'm only basing off
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the show. I said to myself, Oh, Ralph don't like you.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, he don't Wow, he don't.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Like you, and he's determined to expose you. I got
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: that instantly that that was maybe a few episodes ago.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: So when I watched the scene and he brought up
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: tie and he's alleging that in the words of Lisa
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the cole Cloud that you and Tie are in a
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: lesbian a relationship.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Is that true?
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Well, what I can say is at the time when
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: all of this came out right, because to be honest,
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: I'm tired of hearing about it. It is like a
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: year old of information. It just wasn't the right time
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: to talk about it. Honestly, I think now today I
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: sit here and I say, like, what I went through
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: with Ralph over the ten years of marriage, no one
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: got to really see that pain and really see every
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: detail of what he did to me. And I can
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: promise you this, if a cardboard box would have came
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: and showed me some attention, I would have given it.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Ty was someone at that time that gave me attention
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: that I wasn't getting from my husband, And I said
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: it on the show. She was a really great friend
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: to me that like as simple as put left on
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: my jokes, understood, listen to me. And so to have
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: someone as your husband that's supposed to be your best friend,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: that you feel like you can talk to until anything too,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: I didn't have that before I ever met Ty. There
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: was so much that happened that at that point Ralph
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: had moved out of the bedroom. I was speaking with
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: a divorce attorney. He was asking for a divorce. We
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: were in conversations with a separation and yeah, Ty was
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: there and.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: A great friend flirting.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but like at the end of the day, we
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: both have said it was a great friendship. And I'll
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: still say to this day, we're friends. We're not enemies.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: But relationships come and go. Friendships come and go, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: it wasn't what he was making out to be as
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: far as he wanted this divorce.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I was fed up.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: There was infidelity, there was pain, there was hurt, and
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: I feel like he waited for a reason.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I've wait.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: He waited for reason, and I feel like that friendship
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: was that reason he hung on to and he's still
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: hanging on to. Because I had an open conversation with
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: him about time being a friend, he felt like it
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: was inappropriate, so we didn't talk anymore. You know, I
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: thought we were in a position to reconcile.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: And again I have been.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Met with him wanting an open relationship, him wanting to
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: have other women.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: He's not still been honest.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: I was waiting when portion Shamia asked, have you ever
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: cheated and Drew. I was waiting for him to be honest,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: and he got choked up and he just threw a no,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, Okay, if we could see it, we
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: can see that he wasn't being honest. But I was
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: waiting for him to be honest, because until he's honest
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: about what we've gone through, you can't continue to point
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: the finger and try to play victim as though you
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: were hurt when you already wanted the divorce, even dating
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: back to when we live in Chicago, he wanted the divorce.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: I only want to push you as far as you
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: want because I'm going to say this, and I'm not
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: labeling you. I want to respect the boundaries when it
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: comes to this topic, and you have my permission to
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: tell me to move on, and I respect it because
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: at the end of the day, again I'm not labeling you,
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: but what I will say is, as an oply gay man,
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: I am not comfortable ever trying to out somebody or
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: dig deep in terms of saying sex relationships, frenchis whatever.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: So I really want you to tell me respectfully when
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: to stop, okay, because I know you want to clear
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: the air, and I'm only going to ask you things,
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: and I want you to answer them if you want
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: to when it comes to you in tie the way
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: Rap made it seem like it was more than a friendship,
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: that you guys could have been lovers intimately.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: What do you have to say to that when you're talking.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Intimate kiss flirting, Yes, okay, a lot of flirting. I'm
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: not gonna say that there wasn't flirting. There was a
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: lot of conversation. There was a lot of group hangouts,
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: and for me, there were just certain things that I
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: wasn't comfortable with and not judging anybody for their sexual orientation.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: I just love my husband, you know, and so there
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: were certain levels.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Now I can't help if.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: You know Ty felt differently or how she felt, I
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: can't speak for her. But for me, I appreciated the friendship.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: I appreciated the conversation. I appreciated the fun I appreciated,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: you know, the distraction from what I was going through
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: and so much so. I mean, she was around, we
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: hung out publicly, so I wasn't worried about people seeing
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: us or people. But I didn't know it was going
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: to get to this extent to where he would say
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: the reason why he wanted to divorce was because of Tie,
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: because that wasn't actually true.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest with you when he said that
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: was the reason.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: When Ralph said the reason why we're divorc things because
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: of Tie, I felt that Rap wanted.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: To find a reason to bring up Tie. And it
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: goes back to what I saw a few episodes ago.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I just felt like Rap.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Is determined to embarrass you, and he wanted that to
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: come out the way it appeared.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: And what I will give you prompts on is when
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: he said it. They did do a flashback of but
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: seeing you do the film and everything is saying so
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: she listen to your credit, everything you're saying to me
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: you said on camera.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: They aired that that six second snippet.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: So, but that's why I felt the intention was to
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: embarrass you. I've been around time before she dated my
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: friend Mimi Foust. Tie is fine and yeah, I could
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: probably have me.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, and a couple of duds I talked
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: to you, let's not pretend yeah, they'll say yeah and
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: swagged out and is a really good person. And I
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: think that's why, even to this day we're still friends.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: You know, I would never say, oh, she's not a
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: good person, or minimize or you know.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Extreme our our friendship.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: It was just the intimidation that I feel Ralph felt,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: which I'm not gonna say. You know, I can't speak
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: for him, but I just feel like it was an
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: intimidation there, and I feel like he was looking and
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: grabbing on the straws of the reason why he could
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: depart this marriage and for what I endured. Listen, my
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: parents were married for sixty years until my father passed away.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: So I grew up desiring marriage, wanting marriage. All marriage
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: was forever because I didn't know anything different. So the
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: times that he asked for divorce or I found that
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: he was with other women, I didn't ever consider divorce.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I did it.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I fought for my marriage, I fought for my kids.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: I fought for my family. And I just feel like
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: he was always putting that word out there and his
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: behavior on the show, I felt like he showed the
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: most toxic side of him. Because, as you said, he's fine,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: he's nice, he's cool, he's charming. I mean, I married
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: him for those reasons. So he's an aquarius. He's Aquarius.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, and a few.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Mal Aquarius child, we'll talk got all blive.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna gag you.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: He carries the same birthday as my dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Get it now, Okay, I get it. I did it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: I've dated ballplayers, I've dated rappers, musicians, whatever, actors. But
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: him having the same worthday as my dad, I was like, wait,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: you know it had me to pay attention to him,
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: and I really thought I was marrying my father.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I did, so come no.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: I listen.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I feel your energy and I feel everything you're you're giving.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: This is the most burnable I've ever seen you be. Seriously,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: and if the audience was in this realm, they both
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: feel it. Till I just want you to know if
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: you're going to be okay, you're going to be okay.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: And and I don't want to make you cry again,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: but my my spirit's telling me tell you this.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Your father said you did the right thing.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: You did the right thing, and sometimes what happens in life,
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: you have to go through this turmoil so that you
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: won't ever go back. And I feel like, because you're
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: such a because I'm from the Midwest too.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Detroit folks, Chicago folks. We don't leave our relationship. We
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: just don't. We don't leave, we stay. We stay.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: We stay because we feel like with this tradition. And
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: I want you to know, your father is giving you
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: permission to leave. And the reason why you're going through
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: this hell on earth with rap is because everybody in
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: heaven who are your guarding angels, they want you to
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: know you can never go back, even when you have
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: those moments where you're crying yourself to sleep at night,
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: and I know you do, even when you're around the
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: kids and you sometimes wonder could I just do this
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: for the kids. I want you to know, I know,
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: I know, I feel it, I feel it. I want
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: you to know your father is giving you permission to
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: never go back, and you're going through this hell so
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: that it can be so disastrous that you know, deep
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: down inside you can ever go back to that marriage.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: And I'm not calling ral a disaster, So don't don't don't.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: Don't make that the headline, y'all. But I need you
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: to know my spirit is speaking to you and your
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: father is telling me to tell you are going to
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: be okay.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: You're gonna be okay, and you're gonna be okay financially too.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: You are that that was the last thing you want
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: to tell you financially gonna be good.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: They're gonna be good. They're gonna be good.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: What I would like to also address, speaking of finances,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: is you are working with porschas baby Daddy Dennis and.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: You made a comment.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: About girl, I will sell so much music they can
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: pay for Pollard's college to wish for college fund.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Of course, did not like that at all.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Child.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: She thought you brought her daughter too this situation.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I would like for you to clear up the air
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: in terms of what you meant by that comment.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Well, watching it back, what I did see was that
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Shemiah carried that conversation to Porsche and it wasn't taken
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: in the spirit that I said it. So that's first.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Porscha was like, well, that's not the way Shamiah delivered
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: it to me. The way Angela said it. She was like, Okay,
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: that's not so bad. So I want to go on
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: record saying what I said wasn't bad. And what I
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: was saying in that moment was because I keep getting
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: asked the same question why Dennis.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Why are you working with Dennis?
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: So when Shamia asked me that in that moment, I
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: was like, this is what Dennis himself said, which I
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: hope I get a flashback, because he said, out of
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: his own mouth, I'm doing this to build's legacy for
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: my daughter.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: He said it on camp.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: He did, and he continues to say it because I've
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: got text messages and he would stand here and tell
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: you that he is not just a hot dog man.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: You know, he is a serial entrepreneur, which Porscha has
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: said out of her mouth. And he said he believed
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: in I mean, we stood in this studio and he
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: literally was emotional because he said, I believe in you
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: so much. I know this is going to build wealth
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: and legacy for our kids. This is going to help
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: me put my daughter through college. So I was saying
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: that as a way to validate his reasoning and what
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: I believe as a blessing it would be for our families.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: I'm a mother, So no one was saying and it
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: wasn't braggadocious, but this is a blessing for all of us, you.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: This is why I'm doing it. This music is bigger
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: than me, and so that was the intention. And then
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: when she said, well, I think her college has been
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: paid for her, so well maybe some whatever it can do,
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's going to be able to do something.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: I'm not doing this to get back at Porsche. This
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: has nothing to do with porsia actually, and I'm not
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: doing it to be negative in any way. This is
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: something I think can be a blessing.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: When you saw that there's this narrative that you tried
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: to solicit sex from Denniz and you said something along
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: the lines allegedly you want to Dennis, and Dennis said
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: he's not trying to provide Dick. He's trying to provide
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: you know, tracks.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it's still girls head in head.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Let's say we love and hip hop after all. Well,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: so I want to know, were you ever attracted to Dennis?
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: Now have you not seen my husband? I like a
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: certain physique. I like biceps, not bellies. I really know,
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: if it's to tennis, I mean, but I mean the
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: physiques are different. That's what I'm saying that the physiques
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: are definitely different. No, yeah, okay, I'm just saying I
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: like my If you know, you know, and if you
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: see you see and if you know, it's different, it's different,
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: and so it's just unbelievable to me. It's like, are
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: we believing this? And I don't think people are believing it.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: I don't think you're believing it. Not only the fans
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: are buying it. I think that Larisia was brought here
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: to give a life and a story that she wasn't
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: able to deliver, and so that is the reason my
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: name is brought up in every scene, every episode, every moment,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: even in her confessionals.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: So that's just what we're seeing.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: And it's unfortunate because in my real life I'm dealing
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: with so much that when I come into this friend group,
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: it's just so.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Far from the truth. You know, you hear the music.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: What we were doing was real.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: You see the fruits of our labor, and it wasn't
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: easy and it was a journey, and people really got
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: behind it, and so much so portionally, I was a
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: fan of the music before cameras were what do you.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Mean she was? She and I had a conversation.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: She said this on I want to say episode one
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: and maybe episode two. She definitely said we had a conversation.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Dennis invited her to my birthday party. Why would Dennis
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: be inviting you to my birthday party if you had
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: no idea? So people gotta and I think the fans
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: are seeing it. The fans are really smart. Like I
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: can say this season, the people see it's what it
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: really is. And what it really is is that Porsche
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: and I had a conversation and I told her about
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: me working with Dennis. Let me back up, because when
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: she was missus Gubadia, I reached out to her multiple times,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: multiple times. I text her multiple times, I called her
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: multiple times. And what I know now about Portia is
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: she's just not a girl's girl and she's just not
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: a good friend. So in my reaching out to her,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: she was busy off living her princess African life, and
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: no one heard from Porsche. She wasn't showing up, she
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: wasn't around us. We didn't see her. We saw her
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: on Instagram. We saw the life on Instagram that she
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: was putting out there. So therefore that's what it was.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: And so I didn't get any return phone calls. It
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: was not reciprocated. It wasn't reciprocated. I'm reaching out, you're
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: not reaching out to me. When she heard about the divorce.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: She never reached out to me. When I heard about
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: her divorce, I immediately reached out to her. But at a
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: certain point in time, and I have the text messages.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: I was like, you need to call me, you know,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: And she said, well, let's go to eat. I said, listen.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: She wanted to know what are the new girls? Like,
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know about the new girls. I don't know anything,
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: but I need to see you. I need to talk
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: to you.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Oh not you trying to bait me.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: I need to talk to you because I felt like
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: it was something that was important to talk about. So
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: she called me. We had a conversation. She's like, yeah,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: I know, I know. I love the music. I love
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: what you and Dinnis were doing. We were in this
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: studio and Dennis will call her, hey girl. She knew
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: what we were doing, she knew were working on. Dennis
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: was like, she loves this track.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: She loves this track. What was Force's favorite track on
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: your album?
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: All of them?
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: Okay, she said, And she said the album is.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: A hit, so she loves the project as a whole.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Or she'll call me uh.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: Because she apologized for not making it to my birthday party.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: And she said, come hang out with me and Yandy.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Let's go out, girl. We need to talk and celebrate
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: with so much to celebrate, with so much talk about
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: with our divorces. And I was like, girl, I'm tired
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: because my birthday party was a lot and I'm about
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: to lay it down. And so when I saw her
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: ash MEA's birthday party, I'm like, let's do some shots,
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Like what's some girl. I was just so happy to
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: see my girl. So when she came at me, that's
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: why my mouth was open.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: And I didn't really you die was flabbergast, and.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I was so confused because I'm like.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: We definitely like talked a couple of times, and we've
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: already talked about this, you know, because as a friend,
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: I felt like.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: It was important to do so.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: So so the conversation had when it happened was on
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: her terms. But it definitely happened and there was no beef,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: there was no issue. There was no we need to
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: have a conversation, we need to have a sit down
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: because I'm feeling away.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: It was none of that.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: So that's why I was taken aback and I was
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: just like, I didn't doubt or not, because this energy
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: seemed to be for the camera.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: When you are watching this season and the fall, and
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: obviously we did see Shamia's birthday party, we saw what
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: happened in the first episode, and now we're seeing this
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: destruction between SMI and portious friendship.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I would like for you to clear the air on
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: this as well. Angela Oakley yours Chaitao sis.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I love it. Oh my god. I tried to get
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Angela on a few seasons ago. I tried to tell the.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Girls, we're trying to get Angela. I don't know us
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: season three. I was watching it back. I'm like, I
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: don't know us season three, but maybe with season six, okay,
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: but we.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Tried to get Angela. I'm gonna get calls about Angela Oakley.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's when she first started dating Charles. I
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: think of like two thousand and fifteen.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: No me about right.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but long story short, trying to get her on,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Like I remember us trying to get her.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: On, but I got dress.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: She's here now.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: She's a great job.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: So Angela revealed that you her as Shamia had dinner
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: one night and that allegedly Samia put out her pinky
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: her pinky finger and said what exactly what did she say?
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: We did all that. That's that's exactly what happened, so
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: all three. So it was like it was given, yeah,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: and then it was like you.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Activation, it was activated.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Well, Angela said she had her fingers crossed behind her
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: back because trust girls show listen.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: I pinky s were because Sami and I have known
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: each other and I feel like we have grown to
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: build what I would consider a friendship over the years.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: And they're like, I don't know you.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: I just met you yesterday, So I love an energy,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: but Shmi and.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: I have built a rapport and a friendship over the years.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: But it was like this wrestling with Shemiah is the
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: best way I could put it into words. It was
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: a wrestling and we had a cocktail or two and
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: she felt vulnerable and I feel like she felt comfortable
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: and she needed to get this out. And so she
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: was like, I need us to pinky swear because what
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: I'm about to tell you, I need to feel it
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: like I'm in a safe space. So we pinky swear,
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, what's wrong, you know? And she went
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: on to tell us that she felt like you know
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: she needed to be real and address the issues that
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: she has in a friendship with Portia. She went on
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: to say how she didn't want to come across as
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: though now she's got a peach and she's here and
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: now she's going to tear down her friend who helped
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: her to get.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: On on the show.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: She didn't want the fans to come for her in
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: that way, to feel like she's ungrateful or a bad friend.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: So I can tell you she was considering the fans
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: and the look of how we'll come across as we
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: see now she's talking, you know, because she's like, okay,
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: I'm in a good place. But then she was just like,
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: you know, this is Porsia's show. She's the HBI C
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: and I don't know if this is a good idea,
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: but this is the real And she went on to
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: say that you know, there's the friendship is not in
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: the place that everyone thinks that it's in. She was
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: hurt by the fact that Porsche didn't come to her wedding.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: She was hurt by the fact that Porscha did not
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: ever congratulate her for getting a peach, nor ever take
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: her out to celebrate her I would never know this.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: I would never know this, and I never would have
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: thought that that was the case because Instagram shows like
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: this great beautiful, you know, friendship.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: But there was a plethora of things that Amiya.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Said that I feel like, uh Shamiah needs to vocalize, right,
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: because that's her story, that's her pain, that's her journey.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: But she had a lot to say about how she
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: felt like Porscha was not a good friend to her
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: and that she has been a very loyal friend to Porsha.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: And we only encouraged her because myself and I've always
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: told Angela, I told Sonya and how I've lived on
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: this show is speak your truth and just be you,
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: and that's all I can say.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: And so we Encouragemia to do that.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: And I think with us now knowing this and Angela
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: speaking of Porsha, it was bound to come out, and
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: it did.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: It came out.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Do you think.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Samia is just tired of being the background singer in
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Force's life. Yeah.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: I think that Smia first and foremost is such a
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: humble spirit. She is such a pure soul. I just
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: love her. I just love who she is, and she's
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: so dynamic and she has so much energy, and she
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: just seems like she puts on a happy front, like
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna just be the life of the party, I'm
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: make everybody laugh, and she doesn't really get an opportunity
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: to open up about who she is and how she's
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: fittling because she's never been in a position to so
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: the friend of the show she became the friend in
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: real life. The cheerleader on the court was the cheerleader
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: that I think she was for a lot.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Of people, you know, but particularly Portia.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: So seeing her in this position, I felt like this
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: was her opportunity to exhale and release, release and exhale,
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: and I just felt for her because I know what
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: it feels like to be in a relationship friendship and
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: you feel like you can't really speak your truth, but
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: you want to clear the air. So hopefully you guys
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: can get to a better place. And you know, I
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: don't know if they will get to a better place.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: Of course, I don't wish breakups fallouts on anybody.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: It's so hard and it's heartbreaking.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: To see, but this was something she yeah, definitely was
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: at a breaking point and needed to get out.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Do you think for me is Porson's lap dog.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I stand on that. I stand on that.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: I said it. You'll see I said it.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: I said it a couple of times actually, I mean
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: cause it's just, you know, I believe that's who she is,
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: because again, you know, when you don't speak your truth,
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: what are you?
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: You know, if you, like I said, are barking up.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: A tree and not being your own tree, we don't
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: really know who you are. You know, you're you're under
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: someone else's shade, You're under someone else's genealogy, someone else's truth.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: She's been living under Portscha's shadow. And I just felt
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: like that is the best word. People said it before
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: me on this show. She was a lap dog, And
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: I say it for myself now because that's what I've seen.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: For her to come for me about something that portion
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: already spoke about is lap dog behavior. For her to
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: run back a very innocent conversation back to Portia and
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: take it in any negative light.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Is lap dog behavior.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: For her not to stand on business about what she
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: shared with Angela and I and sulk in the moment
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: and not stand and.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Arrive is lapt dog behavior. Yeah.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: And you know, I know a couple of puppies and
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: I have a couple of dog traits, so I can
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: identify you know what I mean. I mean, I'm just saying,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: I just you know, do.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: You have any doctrines?
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I think you're one. I gotta keep them on hand.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: I'll run it into all kind of the LULUs and animals,
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: the zoo and the jug all together.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Jesus.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: So when you went to Nashville, right, I love that
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Angela invite to you.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: You go in and long story short, you saw me
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: episode that when Porsche came to the table, it was.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Pokah, God nothing listen. I'll just be honest.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: It reminded me of like my days working on this
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: show because I know those girls so well that when
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: they would come to a dinner seat and give nothing,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well they mad at Now what happened?
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: So you learned that she found out that Dinis was
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: filming with you, and you left the trip early.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: You were like, I'm out of here.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: And then when you watch the episode, obviously you film
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: the entire season, so you knew what was going on.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: But I want to get your thoughts on this.
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: Being a married woman right a'lbeit a strange but still
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: a married woman who was married.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: For ten years when Porscha made that joke about she's
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: better leave me alone for fuck her husband, and you
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: saw media Kelly and Britt you know, laugh at it
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: and not saying anything.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: And the married women in that pool, it's Shmiah and
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: Brett right as a married warman yourself, if you were
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: in that pool with them and you heard portion make
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: that joke, as y'all I get bonds, whatever, would you
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: have done what the other girls did or would you
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: have said something?
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: Listen when Angela woke me up after she addressed the situation,
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: because I'll sleep it in my bunk bed comfortably. And
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: when she woke me up to tell me what had happened,
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, no, no, no, we got to
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: go outside. We got who said it and what did
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: they say? I wanted to address it, and she was like,
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: already I already addressed it. So for me, I obviously
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: believe in the institution of marriage so much that I
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: was like, even to the point where Angela has forgiven Porsche,
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: I'm still feeling a way about it because I'm like,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: when you make those high with threats about someone's husband,
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: that's not so easily forgivable to me. Filming with my
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: let's be clear, husband for me, is where she crossed
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: the line. I think husband's marriage it's sacred. You know,
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: you go before witnesses, your family, are friends, and before
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: God himself. I just think it sits a little different
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: outside of just the shade. You know, if you want
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: to talk about I made this innocent comment about your kids,
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: but you're talking about someone's husband, the father of her children.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: I think that's a new low for Portia and I
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: would have definitely addressed it, and I don't think that
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: I would have forgiven it so easily either.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: You think Angela for gave Portra too easily.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've told Angela that.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I believe in forgiveness, but I
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: believe in people proving themselves in their apologies too, because
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: words are empty when you don't back it up with
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: the action. So you know, that's just my thought. But again,
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: you know that's Angela's fight. But I was definitely hurting
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: for Angela, which is why I stayed even to be
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: there for her, and we talked almost every day after
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: that because I wanted to make sure mentally and emotionally
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: she was okay.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: You developed a great friendship. Speaking of friendships with Kenya,
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: you know, we saw and it's interesting because we kind of.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: Saw the development of your friendship with Kenya over the
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: course of the seasons, and you were there obviously during
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: the whole debacle at the hair salon. And I want
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: to get your thoughts on this because there are rumors
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: out there that you allegedly are the one who gave
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: Kenya those photos a brit I'm doing.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: So, I'm so very busy, aren't you. I mean, I
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: am dating this person and did it? And now when
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: did I go to Kinko's? Did I? Did I print
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: them in down Child? This is a lot.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: I'm tired like, this is a lot of just finger
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: pointing and King drew the scapegoat for other people's actions.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Kenya has gone on record, which, by the way, I
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: miss Kenya so much because coming from last season and
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: in this season, she was like my only friend that
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: I really built a genuine friendship with that I felt
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: comfortable even to share, you know, my business with and
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: my vulnerabilities with. So I do miss her. She and
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: I talk often still. However, the issue is Kenya didn't
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: tell anybody what she was up to. No one knew
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: that Kenya was looking up Britt and trying to find
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: things wherever she found them, But no, it was not me.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: I don't even know how to do that stuff.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: I've never seen Britt in any thing online like that,
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: although I've heard about it, but no, I've heard about
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: her having like, you know, porn videos.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: You know some of the girls.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: I've murdered a lot of the girls and murmured things online.
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: And she tried to scrub the internet and clean it
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: up the show prior to joining the show, and then
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: obviously once this was yeah the vault, she tried to
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: scrub it.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Kenya said that on her confessional. But Kenya, this was
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: a one woman show.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: And I really wish Kenya would have talked to me
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: about it because I would have strongly.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: That is Makay's alarm for his medicine. He said that
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: on my phone.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Why that song Lizzy is it juice?
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Here?
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Can you text? Uh?
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: Can you check my phone? Make sure the nanny was called?
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: And then also texts Miss Deborah, why Raddy?
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Can I get a drink of water? Make sure Makai
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: texts his medicine.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: For two days?
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: Listen, you know they fun fact fun fact, do you know,
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: Danny so I first seas it. You know it was prophetgate. Yes, Danny,
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: my assistant was, and Lizzy knows a perfect gate right
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: here that exposed LaToya, which, by the way out, that's
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: like one of my best friends. I'm not gonna my
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: kids were at our house for Easter. Yeah, Toya is.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: Actually we can know we can reschedule Cadillac. I want
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: to make sure we have as much time we can.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: It's always gonna be another Cadillac thing we can do.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: We scheduling April. We could do Cadillac another day.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: We could do it tomorrow if we can make it happen.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: I don't want to rush I know, please, I just
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: don't want.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: To rush this.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: We've taken two years to have this. I just yeah,
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: and I need to get this out.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Don't tell Dennis that.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: All right, Betty works. Betty works, and now we're good.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: We're good.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: Am I good, Walter good. I know she did, but no,
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: we're not pulling me. I love her, respect her, but respectfully. Yeah, well,
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: so apologies, you know.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Really lazy, but thirty twenty works.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Actually we can always listen.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm ready for you. Guys are Nomory speaking. Yeah, so.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Just carried juice?
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Do you think she ever sold it?
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: How was it?
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: The cat?
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: I right? Yes? Do you want come worry man? Listen
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: you're giving the actress and singer and now are you
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: coming from my career?
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Listen you are so I'm gonna say this to you.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: I have this is your best season. Is your best
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: season because you and Angela to me, came in not
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: not not not trying too hard, just like.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Kevin has eased in.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying in two different directions. What
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: you're giving this season is fantastic. And when you were
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: interrogating Britt, me, the gays, the bays, the women, the men,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: we were all like you are like an official meme
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: wow right now because you were asking the right questions.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on Britt in general? Do you
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: think see is somebody you would be friends with?
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: Honestly, Britt, I just I just don't see it for
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: her here. I think she's wor better maybe for like
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: a rags to riches type show, but housewives, nah nah nah,
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: I think that you know she.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: She just doesn't want to live in her truth.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: As we see all these allegations around her husband and
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: their marriage and then her and then you know, she's
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: just not that girl. You know, I think she's beautiful.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: I would never take that away from her. And I
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: thought that we could, you know, after our sit down,
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: but no, it's a no for me. I think that
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: she's just not a good fit for this circle of girls.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: I don't think she displays the integrity and the honesty
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: and the truthfulness.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: And she just has a lot going on in her
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: past and her and her husband her, you know what
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, Like they have a lot going on, and
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: I just.
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: Don't think that they are the most transparent. I think
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: they throw a lot of stones and hide their hand.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: And she's just very argumentative, you know what I mean,
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: Like she just comes across very angry. I think that
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: in the Kenya situation, threatening somebody with a weapon like
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: she did, it just I've never dealt with anything like that, you.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Know, coming to work and feeling like someone is just so.
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: Calm and comfortable throwing around pistol and weapons and the
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: threats that she did. And so I feel like, although
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: I've said a time time again, I don't agree with
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: how can you handled it? I just feel like there
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: needed to be a conversation, a reprimanding so to speak
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: about that behavior.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: Would you like to see Kenya return to the show, Yes,
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: so much so.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: I was inviting her the scenes with me, Like.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like, this is your real life, right,
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: so let's be honest, Carlos, Like, some people give me
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: a hard time about my life, but I show my
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: real life.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Other people talk about their life, they talk about it.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: I literally show my life. So for me, if you're
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: my friend, I'm like, why are you not coming with me?
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Come with me?
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: I'm fighting for my friend, which is why I kept
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: speaking of for her in her absence. I feel like
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: she hasn't deserves a place here, And I just feel
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: like what happened to the days that we talk about
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: it as grown women and sort out our differences, like
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: why all the babysitting and the getting involved and erasing
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: people from the group that really do deserve to be here.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: You have been on the show for like is it five?
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: This is my fourth season?
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: It's your fourth season. Who would you like to be
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: on a cast with?
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Like who is who is the drink cast that Drew
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Sodora would want to surround herself with.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's hard. Let's see. Definitely Kenya. You're
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: just talking about Kenya.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: Nini because when I think of Atlanta Housewives, I think
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: of Nini, and when I see Nini, I'm like Atlanta Housewives.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: So definitely Nini at this point. Remax, right, listen.
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, Sharana Scharen and I've had our moments, but
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: there were times where I was like, oh, hell'll just
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: come back, you know, and we have text and really
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: we have are texting.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: We have text. I'm not gonna text. We have a
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: text and through mutual friends we have communicated.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: There is you know, you know, I think just with
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: what we had going on at the time, it wasn't
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: so far gone that we couldn't be in the space
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: that we're in now. And I do respect who she
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: has been on the show, who she is, and I
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: miss our going back and forth.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna lie like I really you know,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: this is.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Yes seem so long ago last season's reunion because you
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: and her have first chair and the back and forth
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: between the two.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Of you were so funny. I was texting like I
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: am enjoying this, like it was so funny to me.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: So the fact that you can even say, like, look,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: we had our issues, but what I look back on,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: like what's great for the show, Like Charree's.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Great for the show.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Shari and I rode next to each other to
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: reunion and I'm sitting here helping her with Instagram social media.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: And we're talking and then we get a reunion.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, here we go.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: It has definitely been that that type of friendship for us.
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: But yeah, we text.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: I just worked with Candy and Todd. Yes, and Candy
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: and I have had a clearing and so I would
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: say Candy for sure.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: Angela of course. Yeah, I think that about And I
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: love Shemiah. You know, Shemiah, you know you are as
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: a hospital a friend, as a friend.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: Well you want Shamia to be a friend.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: I think that, you know, if Shemiah could show us
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: her full like I said, I have given you all
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: my husband and my strange husband, and so I just
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: feel like that's important for us to really get a
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: glimpse to her as a wife too, you know, as
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: a housewife.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: We want to see that. I think that's important.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so listen, you have been same as for
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: so many years although you're legally married, you are going
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: through a divorce.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: Are you dating anybody right now?
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: Is there any of your old celebrity men that you
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: would like to so, you know, Cirkle block, Well.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, spend the block.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: You have had a lot of attractive celebrity men on
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: your roster.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Really, yes, I know who was the most famous guy
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: you dated? Oh lord, I got.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Destroyed for one that I sort of kind of didn't mention.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Oh oh lord, we want to dig that back up.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, at the time, listen, he was not married,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: he was not dating.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: Okay, this was when we were very young, but the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: king of the NBA was someone and you can dig
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: up newspaper clippings and people wrote about us.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: My sister went online to set the record straight. You
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: know that is truth.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: But I did also date young Bird at the time
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: when he was younger. Now hit Maka and we are
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: still friends.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: I can say that I dated Michael B. Jordan.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: I never said that out loud publicly with people that
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: know no and biceps. Hello, listen, I'm just gonna say,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm Carlowska friend.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Let's said, and that's the truth. He was on well,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: he asked me to be his date to the NAACP Awards.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: And this is when he was on the soap opera
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: he was on and yeah, like my sister Allison, he
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: would come over and she would cook.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: For him and we went out.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: I met his mom and you know, it was great, Like, yes,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: that that is my past as you would say were
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, like I said,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: like my parents were married for sixty years, I wanted
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: someone that I felt compatible with outside of the names
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: and who they were. I was like, I want what
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: I see my parents having. I want that best friend.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: I want that person I'm attracted to as well as
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: I feel like we can build something together.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, but dating, I've went on a
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: couple of dates. Not gonna act like I haven't gone
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: a couple of dates.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: Celebrity man you know, owners of establishments.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Wow, really you really do?
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: Knowing I'm a journalist, yes, yes.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: I think all the above. Okay, yeah, all the above.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: It's been you know, just a quick little date and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: just like okay, but before I find myself going too far,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I gotta wrap this up because this one
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: he won't let me be great now he hosted women
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: on his social media and.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Leaves for weeks and weekends at a time, comes home.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: But for me, I feel like, until I wrap this up,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: it's just more messy, you know, and I don't feel
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: like I can be as available right now.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: What do you think it's been cute?
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: Listen? I will say this.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: Dating when you're either close to forty or after forty
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: in this day and age, it's listen. It's a little difficult,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: but I will say, I will say, there's some gems
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: out there, but you gotta you gotta listen.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: My advice to you is to explore other areas. You
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: I will say that for you, I got you, I follow, Okay,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: you follow, definitely.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: It I hed.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: I've never tried, but I don't know. Let's diversify, hadn't
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: he like your.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: Portfolio, diversify your portfolio of income of you know, incoming
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: manify your portfolio?
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: Is that gonna be joining a single?
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: So yeah?
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm more of an organic girly, like
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: if it happened and we need and we see and
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: we vibe at this point in our lives, it has
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: to be a natural thing. For me, I don't really
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: like the like flying dates and the setups. I'm like,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: if it happens, it happens. And I think right now,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: honestly with everything, y'all see that I'm dealing with this,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: like I don't really have the capacity to take anyone
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: serious right now, and I really need to get back
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: to a place where I trust again because being married
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: for ten years and having who you think is your
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: person that you trust and to realize you.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: That was Ops.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: Basically I look at him, it's almost the Ops. Now,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: how do I trust somebody again, you know, in that way.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: So I'm very guarded, very very guarded.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: Your album is so good, and I feel like you
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: and co Cooke Jones are like bringing R and B back,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: you know, in this, in this in its natural form.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: I listen to it a lot, and you, first of
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: all listen. I feel like, the world please.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: Buy this album, stream it whatever.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: But you can sing, you are a singer, but talk
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: to me about the album because if people listen to
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: or when people listen to her rather, you do share
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: a lot about what you're going through.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: But it's such a personal.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Album that I really want the world to really listen
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: to it to understand more about who drew sidor Ismen.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so talk to me about about this album and
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: why people should cop it.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: This album, like I.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: Said, it is bigger than me. Not only will you
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: listen to this album, but you will feel this album.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: It is a journey. So people say, well, what's your
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: favorite record?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: You know, and I'm like, for me, you can't take
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: one record because when you take out one record, it
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: doesn't tell the full story from where I was when
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: I recorded my first record, which was better on my
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: own in this studio, and just the progression of how
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: I felt.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: You can literally feel the heartbreak. You can feel the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: days that I was like could I rekindle this with
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: my husband?
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: You feel the days where I was like everybody f
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: him and I'm outside. You know, you feel the journey
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: of healing. And that's really what it was. People say
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: why didnnis?
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, why not?
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: You know, I got the music sent to my management,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: my management, and it was the music that got us
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: to this point. It wasn't about the person. You know,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: you never know who the vehicle's gonna be. And listen,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: Vincent Herbert signed me to death.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Jam.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: I was sign a slipping slide, I.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: Was signed a babyface. I mean I worked with so
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: many amazing producers.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: And yet nothing ever came out.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: When people say music is powerful, music is powerful. So
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: this wasn't about the perfect situation of the perfect person.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: It was about the music that was coming in my
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: inbox that I felt like was my therapy. It was
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: speaking to my heart and my spirit, and it was
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: what I needed in that season to get out to
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: help me to get to this place that you said
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: you see as freedom as a piece that I can
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: sit in because keeping that internalized it wasn't doing nothing
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: for me. It really wasn't, and I can admit that
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: at now there was things that I wasn't able to
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: talk about or express, and I felt like with this album,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: I said everything I needed to say, from the good,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: the bad, the ugly, the bloodswey and tears.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: I literally like cried on this album.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: And that's why I feel like it's connecting in a
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: way that's different from anything else I've done.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: And talk to me about that.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Boo God is good, Like I really I gotta.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: Give it to him because the response obviously coming out
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: debuting number four on the charts.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: I'm almost Golden streams A graduations generally aw thousand away.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: No, that's made during this climate.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: It is amazing to get a plaque, you know, I'll.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: Give my gold plaque, but the incoming calls that are
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: coming from major labels. So we got offers to go
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: out on tour, and now we have locked in a
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: tour this year literally this summer, this summerfall.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: I'll be on tour spring summer, Like I said, no spring,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: summer fall. Huh no, no, no, honey, small priet something.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: More than less.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Ten city tour. Yeah.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, you're doing good. I mean listen, the song
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: is the song? S excuse me, mar great, the album's great.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: You're going on tour. Yeah, you're back your acting bag.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I want to see more of you doing that to you.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: You've been great on Lifetime stuff that I've watched, and
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: you have fans in that industry too, and then you're
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: on a Listen, this season of The Real House Spots
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: of Atlanta is so good, and you are on the
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: most talked about reality show that's airing right now, and
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: you have a lot going on. We are in the
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: middle of the rest of the season padres Co, I'm back. Yes,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Phage's return to the show.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: You know, Phaedra is an og, so I always got
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: to respect an og. That's just how I operate. However,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: I know she didn't do a lot on marriage to medicine,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: and then she came on our show pretty much at
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: the end.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: But I'm hoping that we'll see her next year.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: What did she do when she came back, Well, she.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: Was trying to get to know everybody, so she gave
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: us faces, and she gave a lot of faces, you know,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: and some laughs.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: And yeah, so I can't say anything bad per se.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: You know, I can't say anything bad. I can't. And
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: we were pretty much done, you know what I mean.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: The work was done. So we'll see. We'll see season seventeen,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: sin Store.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: You are, you are something else.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Listen, ladies, jump tom Gays and days, give it up
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: for the beautiful.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: This has been worth it. The two years has been
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: worth it. I listen. I am so proud of you.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: I love you, and you listen, keep doing what you're doing,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Keep doing what you're doing. I can't wait to see
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: what you're going to bring at this upcoming reunion in
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: season seventeenth.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: Love you, love you so much. Oh God, it's been
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: so good.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: It's been so good.
• 1:11:42
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