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THIS GAY WEEK: Turkey Cracks Down, Japan Opens Up — LGBTQ Rights Head in Opposite Directions · The Karel Show

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Speaker 4: It is time for a special half hour edition.
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Speaker 5: Of This Gay Week, including professional baseball teams are canceling games?
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Speaker 5: Why what the hell is going on in Turkey? We'll
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Speaker 5: talk about that. Will Margaret Thatcher's policy come under review?
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Speaker 4: Finally? Yes? And so much more?
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Speaker 5: All right, it is This Gay Week with the at
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Speaker 5: the Correl Show with Scott Jacobson for the good Man Project,
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Speaker 5: normally in Canada, but now he is in Ukraine. Uh,
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Speaker 5: And we do this every week to entertain you all
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Speaker 5: and tell you what's going on in the world of gayness,
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Speaker 5: one of us being gay, the other being gay adjacent.
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Speaker 5: I'll let you figure out which one is which. But
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Speaker 5: he'd be a cuter gay than me. You'd be a
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Speaker 5: bigger hit in the gay community than I am. Actually,
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Speaker 5: but hey, that is correct. Yeah, no, I believe me.
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Speaker 5: I know I'm gay. I know I know these things.
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Speaker 5: All right, let's kick right into it. There's a couple
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Speaker 5: of things going on and I know that. I'll let
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Speaker 5: you I'll let you lead and I'll give you my
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Speaker 5: comments on the stories, but I did want to start
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Speaker 5: with this. We have touched upon this on a couple
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Speaker 5: of weeks now, and I'm starting to see an alarming
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Speaker 5: trend on social media of gays and lesbian gay men
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Speaker 5: mostly who are out there saying I don't want to
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Speaker 5: be part of the alphabet anymore. I don't I don't
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Speaker 5: have anything in common with trans people. You know, I
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Speaker 5: don't have anything in common with queer people. I don't
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Speaker 5: even know what intersecty is or you know, blah blah blah.
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Speaker 5: I would just like to go on record here with
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Speaker 5: you and everyone else is saying, shut the fuck up.
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Speaker 5: The reason that we have all banded together, which escapes
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Speaker 5: your young, warped little gen X gen Z gen y minds,
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Speaker 5: millennial minds, is that there's power in numbers. If gays
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Speaker 5: are a small percentage of the population, we need a
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Speaker 5: group in order to have a voice, to have a
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Speaker 5: voting block, in order to have economic power, and that
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Speaker 5: means we have to have allies. When gays became gays
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Speaker 5: and lesbians, I have nothing in common with lesbians. I
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Speaker 5: don't have plat and I don't have cats, and yet
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Speaker 5: we were a larger voting block with lesbians on our side.
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Speaker 5: The same thing with the trans community. We are a
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Speaker 5: voting block, we are an economic block, and we are
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Speaker 5: stronger together, which is why the marginalized communities of sexuality.
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Speaker 5: There's many marginalized communities, but the marginalized communities that deal
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Speaker 5: with sexual orientation or sexuality have banded together. And that's
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Speaker 5: because we're all in the same boat. And we need
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Speaker 5: a larger voice in politics and a larger voice in
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Speaker 5: corporate America. And we're not going to get that if
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Speaker 5: all the letters are off fractioned on their own. So
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Speaker 5: for those of you that don't think we need the
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Speaker 5: T in LGBT, you don't know crap about your history.
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Speaker 5: For those of you that don't think you out don't
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Speaker 5: have anything in common with trans people, or with lesbians
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Speaker 5: or with by people, then you've never met any. So,
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Speaker 5: as far as I'm concerned, that is an infuriating argument.
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Speaker 5: It's an infurigating, infuriating group of stories. And I say,
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Speaker 5: any gay person that is out there talking this shit
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Speaker 5: needs to shut up and do some history lessons. But
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Speaker 5: that's just me. That's just me, all right. Now to
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Speaker 5: the story as at hand. Pick your play roulette, pick one,
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Speaker 5: let's talk.
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Speaker 3: I think we should go with yours first. I think
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Speaker 3: it's a perfectly fine story. So sf Gate by Alex Simon,
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Speaker 3: Sports editor, noting that San Francisco Giants saga has been
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Speaker 3: lingering in the indie team forfeits Pride game over player protests.
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Speaker 4: The title reads, Yes. Now.
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Speaker 5: The saga, by the way with the Giants is that
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Speaker 5: the Giants having a Pride night, and several of their
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Speaker 5: players objected, didn't want to wear the costumes. Blah blah
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Speaker 5: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Uh, And so
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Speaker 5: there was drama and the Giants had to do things
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Speaker 5: and and so now another team was going to have
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Speaker 5: a Pride night, the York Revolution, it's called uh, And
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Speaker 5: they were going to have a Pride Night and they
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Speaker 5: were gonna wear rainbow colored outfits and everything. Several of
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Speaker 5: the players decided to be homophobes and say, we don't
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Speaker 5: want to do it. We don't want to do it.
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Speaker 5: So instead of having the game and not having the
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Speaker 5: Pride night, they canceled the game. They said, you know what,
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Speaker 5: and and I say, good for the for the the
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Speaker 5: franchise because instead of compromising or instead of you know whatever,
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Speaker 5: they said, no, our values are we support the gay
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Speaker 5: and lesbian community, and if you players don't want to
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Speaker 5: support the community, then we're not going to let you play.
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Speaker 4: We just won't even have the game.
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Speaker 5: So I support what they did when several of their
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Speaker 5: players refused to wear the scheduled Pride Night jersey, and
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Speaker 5: the club decided that hosting the event is more important
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Speaker 5: than forcing players to wear jerseys they are not comfortable
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Speaker 5: with and playing the game as a result. Out of
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Speaker 5: respect for the Pride community and the York community as
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Speaker 5: a whole, the York Revolution has decided that the game
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Speaker 5: on Thursday, June eighteenth, which is tonight, yesterday, actually yesterday evening,
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Speaker 5: will be forfeited and that Pride Night will continue on
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Speaker 5: as the featured elements of the evening at the Wellspan Park.
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Speaker 1: No time to fear.
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Speaker 5: And I say good for this team. They still had
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Speaker 5: the pride night. They just said to the players, Hey,
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Speaker 5: you don't want to play, then guess what. You're not
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Speaker 5: gonna play. We'll forfeit the game. You'll lose the game.
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Speaker 4: Uh. Now, the Revolution and the Blue Crabs.
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Speaker 5: Who they were going to play? Which if your name
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Speaker 5: is the Blue Crabs, how could you be anti gay?
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Speaker 3: Uh?
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Speaker 5: Play in the Atlantic League of Professional Baseball are not
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Speaker 5: affiliated with any major league clubs. But this is some
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Speaker 5: of the drama. The Dodgers had a pride night. Some
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Speaker 5: of their players objected, didn't want to play, didn't want
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Speaker 5: to wear the outfits, and some decided to wear Bible
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Speaker 5: versus on their baseball caps. And when the when the teams?
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Speaker 4: Uh?
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Speaker 5: They when the team in San Francisco and the team
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Speaker 5: in LA decided that they were going to find any
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Speaker 5: players that did that. Several Christian organizations and Christian stars
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Speaker 5: came forward and said they would pay the fines of
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Speaker 5: those players because their homophobia knows no bounds either. But
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Speaker 5: congratulations to the Revolution. At least they still had the
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Speaker 5: pride night. Even though they didn't have the game, so
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Speaker 5: the players lost out, but not the gay people, so
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Speaker 5: good for them. I don't know how in Canada do they,
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Speaker 5: like do your sports team celebrate pride at all?
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Speaker 3: I don't think much bones are made about it one
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Speaker 3: way or the other. A do weekly series with the
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Speaker 3: Color from New York's currently traveling, and we've done it
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Speaker 3: for at least a half a year now, and every
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Speaker 3: time there's more prominent stories around anti Semitic violence than
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Speaker 3: anti gay rhetoric or activities particular on sports. That doesn't
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Speaker 3: tend to come up as much.
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Speaker 5: I mean because obviously, look, I've never understood pride, Knight
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Speaker 5: should baseball this and that. I'm not a sports fan,
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Speaker 5: and while I know there are gay and lesbian sports fans,
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Speaker 5: I don't know many. However, for some reason, softball and
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Speaker 5: baseball seems to be like a sport the gays play.
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Speaker 5: There's tons of gay softball teams, so I can see
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Speaker 5: gays going to a baseball thing, you know. I mean,
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Speaker 5: I thought we would be attracted to things like I
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Speaker 5: don't know, WWE or some you know, half naked men
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Speaker 5: and speedos, but but they they there is a large
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Speaker 5: group of gay men and women that like, you know baseball. Now,
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Speaker 5: the communications director, someone high ranking in the Dodgers, is
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Speaker 5: actually a friend of mine. He used to be the
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Speaker 5: program director at KBC Radio uh and and he is
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Speaker 5: gay and his husband and he got married on the
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Speaker 5: field at Dodger Stadium because they you know, he's high
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Speaker 5: ranking there in their in their ranks, and so I
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Speaker 5: know they they have many pro gay people they're working
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Speaker 5: in the Dodgers. I know the Dodgers try to be
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Speaker 5: pro gay, but their history with it is kind of bad.
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Speaker 5: They canceled an event with the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence
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Speaker 5: and got flack for that a few years back. So
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Speaker 5: the Dodgers have been iffy on gay rights. The Giants,
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Speaker 5: you would think, the San Francisco Giants. Hello, you're in
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Speaker 5: San Francisco and you're called the Giants. That attracts gay
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Speaker 5: people right there, you know, So you would think there
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Speaker 5: wouldn't be any of their players that were homophobic, But
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Speaker 5: obviously there are. I'm religious phobic. So they want to
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Speaker 5: go out there and spread their religion and keep that
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Speaker 5: off the field. But this is happening. Look, Pride Month
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Speaker 5: is under attack from politicians who are passing you know,
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Speaker 5: family month, their nuclear family month from sports teams who
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Speaker 5: are now allowing their players to rebel. And it's directly
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Speaker 5: related to Donald Trump and the anti trans, anti gay
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Speaker 5: rhetoric that Donald Trump and his ilk are putting out there.
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Speaker 5: But this month, we need pride more than ever, and
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Speaker 5: it appears to be being canceled more than ever. So
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Speaker 5: that's I haven't from gay people. I just read an
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Speaker 5: editorial at Salon from a gay guy who thinks that
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Speaker 5: Pride doesn't include him because he's not quote a typical gay.
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Speaker 5: I'm like, does this young queen even know what the
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Speaker 5: hell he's talking about?
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Speaker 4: And he doesn't.
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Speaker 5: He just did a two thousand word essay and I
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Speaker 5: read the entire thing and I thought, this man, he's
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Speaker 5: blowing about his ass. He doesn't know a thing. Oh
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Speaker 5: but pride is now become a commodity and it's not
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Speaker 5: a protest, and yes, it's commercial now, but that doesn't
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Speaker 5: mean it's not a protest, and it doesn't mean that
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Speaker 5: it's not needed. So anyway, next story, the principle.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, motivation all right.
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Speaker 3: Next next one, Human Rights watches in morning that Turkey
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Speaker 3: uh is reviving proposals to criminalize LGBT expression, restriction from
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Speaker 3: in care, race surgical eligibility two twenty five, require sterilization,
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Speaker 3: and penalize providers. Human Rights Watch has been saying that
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Speaker 3: this visure's of violate privacy, health, legal recognition, equality, and
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Speaker 3: international human rights obligations. Turkey is one of those in
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Speaker 3: between countries, and we're seeing some significant repression coming out
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Speaker 3: of them. What are your thoughts on these and does
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Speaker 3: this buck any trend that well?
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Speaker 5: As Hungary is going in the opposite direction getting rid
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Speaker 5: of their anti gay laws here, we have Turkey going
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Speaker 5: in the exact opposite direction. So it's sort of a
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Speaker 5: yin and a yang. We're winning over here, we're.
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Speaker 4: Losing over here, which is fine.
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Speaker 5: First of all, Turkish prisons are synonymous with gay sex.
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Speaker 5: I saw the movie Midnight Express, So I don't know
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Speaker 5: what they're all up in arms about over in Turkey.
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Speaker 5: And your country is called Turkey for the love of God,
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Speaker 5: you know, gobble gobble hello, But anyway, you would think
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Speaker 5: they'd be welcome. Name of gays, we gobble. But it's
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Speaker 5: it's religion, okay, And it's it's religion that's been entrenched
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Speaker 5: for thousands, you know, of years, which is odd because
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Speaker 5: Turkey back before you know, when we let's go back
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Speaker 5: to Istanbul if you'd like, or Constantinople or whatever.
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Speaker 4: But Turkey used to be a very liberal, very.
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Speaker 5: Arts centered country, you know, in ancient history and was
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Speaker 5: very accepting. It's only of late that Turkey has decided
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Speaker 5: to go the other direction. Uh, And that is because
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Speaker 5: of the influenced religion. Religion is having on their politics.
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Speaker 5: Also the countries that Turkey allies itself with and their policies. Remember,
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Speaker 5: you know Turkey, sometimes they're friends with Russia, sometimes they're not.
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Speaker 5: But we know that Russia's anti gay, h you know,
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Speaker 5: Turkey and China. So it's not just what's going on
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Speaker 5: inside of Turkey, it's what do the leader have to
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Speaker 5: gain geo politically by being anti gay. So if by
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Speaker 5: being anti gay Turkey gains political allies, they'll do it.
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Speaker 5: It's sad and if you're gay and you live in Turkey,
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Speaker 5: leave But that's the way it is right now. And yes,
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Speaker 5: everything that the Human Rights Watch has said it's true.
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Speaker 5: In other words, it will do all of those things.
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Speaker 5: It will cause harm, it will cause damage, it will
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Speaker 5: cause but the Turkish government doesn't care you know, and
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Speaker 5: then the question is going to become are the courts
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Speaker 5: going to enforce these laws?
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Speaker 4: Are they going to mandate sterilization? You know?
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Speaker 5: How how far is this going to go? But it's
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Speaker 5: going in the wrong direction. And if I were gay,
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Speaker 5: I'd think twice about living in Turkey right now.
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Speaker 4: I just would. I would take my money.
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Speaker 5: And but there are some who seeing that, we always
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Speaker 5: talk about this, and I flippantly say, why don't they
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Speaker 5: get out? As you know, I'm trapped in America. I
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Speaker 5: can't leave. I don't have the money to leave the
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Speaker 5: United States. I have a couple hundred dollars if I
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Speaker 5: sell my house, that's not enough to go start a
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Speaker 5: life anew somewhere. So I relate that if you're gay
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Speaker 5: in Turkey, what are you going to do? I mean,
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Speaker 5: because you can't leave. I get it. The sad statement
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Speaker 5: is that you're going to suffer right now until you're
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Speaker 5: able to rally enough people and until it is politically, well,
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Speaker 5: until there's an advantage politically for them to change their rules.
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Speaker 5: Right now, there isn't. They're headed in a very conservative direction.
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Speaker 5: They're happy to be headed in that direction. They're getting
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Speaker 5: support from other nations to go in that direction. So
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Speaker 5: they're going in that direction. When the money pendulum swings
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Speaker 5: and suddenly it's more profitable for Turkey to welcome gays,
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Speaker 5: they will. But until it's profitable and until some of
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Speaker 5: their allies do it, they're going to keep making anti
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Speaker 5: gay loss.
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Speaker 3: Another effectors both as now so think are important. Typically,
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Speaker 3: a lot of these countries they don't share audiological governance systems.
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Speaker 3: North Korea necrocratic, Russia, autocratic, China, communist, ron Islamic, theocratic
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Speaker 3: with a bit of plasers public Turkey Islamic. A primary
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Speaker 3: key factor in all those things that unite them are
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Speaker 3: powerful men who don't have necessary term limits, or they
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Speaker 3: get the term limits extended, and so they can really
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Speaker 3: impose these policies over a longer period of time. That's
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Speaker 3: part one, Part two. A lot of these domination based
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Speaker 3: systems come associated with rigid gender identities. Yeah, so any
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Speaker 3: deviancy is then punished, and this.
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Speaker 4: Which is ridiculous.
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Speaker 5: I've never understood why governments concern themselves with sexuality or
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Speaker 5: sexual orientation. I will never understand that they have other bits. Look,
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Speaker 5: Turkey has bigger fish to fry than who's dork and
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Speaker 5: who I mean, you know, basically a lot of them
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Speaker 5: live in mud huts. The economy is not great. One
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Speaker 5: of their biggest exports is hazel nuts, believe it or not,
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Speaker 5: and those crops are failing, so economically they're not doing well.
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Speaker 5: They have child labor picking the hazel nuts, which is
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Speaker 5: why vegans are protesting against hazel nuts. I'm not I
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Speaker 5: love nutella, well, vegan nutellah, but you know they're using
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Speaker 5: child labor to pick this, so they have child labor
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Speaker 5: issues there. They have a lot of issues in Turkey
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Speaker 5: that they could be addressing to help their people.
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Speaker 4: This is not one of them.
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Speaker 5: I mean, in May, they they they literally prosecuted a
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Speaker 5: singer in May. He was acquitted, but he stood trial
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Speaker 5: for a song that he's saying that alleged same sex desire,
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Speaker 5: and they arrested the guy and he had to go
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Speaker 5: to court.
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Speaker 4: They acquitted him.
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Speaker 5: I guess it wasn't a good song, but you know,
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Speaker 5: it certainly wasn't I'm too sexy for my shirt. But
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Speaker 5: you know, they as a singer they had, you know,
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Speaker 5: they put a singer on trial, so right now it's
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Speaker 5: bad to be gay in Turkey. I hope that some
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Speaker 5: of the people there seek asylum in other countries and
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Speaker 5: can get out any way they can until it gets better.
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Speaker 3: Do you want to pick the next two on me too?
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Speaker 6: Oh?
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Speaker 4: You go, it's technically your segment. So I like this
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Speaker 4: one of Pink News.
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Speaker 3: Ah, we're recording out a petition seeking a public choir
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Speaker 3: into section twenty eight. Yes, Margaret Thatchers, we're HARKing way
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Speaker 3: back anti LGBT law thinking schools.
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Speaker 5: Hey watch it, dude. I remember when they when they
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Speaker 5: put that in place. I was in my twenties.
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Speaker 3: You're still in your twenties.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, boy George, Boy George had a lot.
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Speaker 4: Boy George had a.
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Speaker 5: Lot to say about Section twenty eight back when he was,
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Speaker 5: you know, twenty, because he was in his twenties.
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Speaker 4: As well.
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Speaker 5: Part of Boy George and Lee Boweries, who boy George
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Speaker 5: copied entire persona, was to flip off Margaret Thatcher. The
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Speaker 5: roof of punk music are in the youth rebellion to
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Speaker 5: Margaret Thatcher and section twenty eight.
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Speaker 4: So we owe a lot to the anger.
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Speaker 5: That came about after Section twenty eight and because it
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Speaker 5: was such a ridiculous law, which we report here on
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Speaker 5: laws in other countries that were like this law. Section
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Speaker 5: twenty eight said you couldn't promote LGBTQ causes.
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Speaker 4: They wanted books removed from schools. You know. It was
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Speaker 4: basically a gay band.
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Speaker 5: And the backlash to Section twenty eight has now made
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Speaker 5: the UK one of the best places in the world
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Speaker 5: for gays. So I don't want to say they kind
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Speaker 5: of owe that to Margaret Thatcher being such an ass,
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Speaker 5: but because she went so far to the right. Now
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Speaker 5: in the UK, gay rights are very much to the left,
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Speaker 5: and so, you know, again a pendulum. She swung it
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Speaker 5: this way and then it swung back this way. But
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Speaker 5: I think it's great that they're going to do an
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Speaker 5: inquisition into it because it really damaged.
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Speaker 4: People over there.
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Speaker 5: Kids were harmed, people were violence was perpetrated, benefits were denied.
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Speaker 5: You know, bad things happened under section twenty eight, and
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Speaker 5: there should be some sort of repercussion for that. She's
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Speaker 5: long gone, but others aren't.
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Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah, set fired at that true roof.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well it was.
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Speaker 5: Remember it went from eighty eight from when I was
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Speaker 5: twenty six years old until two thousand and three. It
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Speaker 5: was only repealed twenty three years ago.
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Speaker 4: So that's yes, I believe it was Tony Blair. Yes.
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Speaker 5: Students then were not able to get supported schools, staff
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Speaker 5: were forced to hide their identity fearing they'd be sacked.
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Speaker 4: I mean it was bad. It was a witch hunt.
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Speaker 4: Next one sure, okay.
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Speaker 5: Oh by the way, Scotland repealed it in two thousand
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Speaker 5: before the UK.
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Speaker 4: Go Scotland, Yeah, go Scott.
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Speaker 3: I've always held that Scottish people with their accent are
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Speaker 3: the best storytellers.
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Speaker 5: I will tell you right now. There's a scott guy
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Speaker 5: on Apple Fitness Plus main Dan. Oh my god, Oh
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Speaker 5: my god. I'd moved to Scotland just to marry him.
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Speaker 3: So The Guardian has reported or described as sole Pride
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Speaker 3: sore during tens of thousands, despite LGBTT plus protections, religious
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Speaker 3: opposition and continued exclusion from Soul Plaza, participate celebrated visibility
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Speaker 3: much to support legal progress while urging lawmakers and companies
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Speaker 3: to stop ignoring queer Koreans publicly.
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Speaker 5: Well and the mayor of Seoul said he can't support homosexuality.
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Speaker 5: He said that holding pride at the city's main square
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Speaker 5: is not desirable, but the organizers of the event said,
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Speaker 5: just stop pretending. We don't exist. We're here work, we
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Speaker 5: get used to uh. And so they turned out in probe,
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Speaker 5: tens of thousands.
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Speaker 4: Of people board into central Soul to celebrate.
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Speaker 5: And I don't see why he doesn't like that. That's
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Speaker 5: a shit ton of money just got bored into Soul
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Speaker 5: in first dollars and hotels and food and everything else lubricant.
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Speaker 5: Uh so you know, I mean.
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Speaker 1: State no is show.
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Speaker 5: So they couldn't have it in the town square, but
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Speaker 5: they did have it at a festival ground in another location. Uh,
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Speaker 5: they had university clubs, Diplomatic missions, including the British Embassy
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Speaker 5: came and days earlier a Soul court had offered a
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Speaker 5: rare step forward for these people, ruling that a same
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Speaker 5: sex couple who had their lives and finances constituted a
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Speaker 5: protected legal union, even as same sex marriage is not
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Speaker 5: legally recognized in South Korea, which is odd because South
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Speaker 5: Korea is progressive it is, and it's odd that this
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Speaker 5: is still. Of course, it's the Asian world, and there
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Speaker 5: are two places where it's really tough to be gay,
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Speaker 5: the Asian world and the Muslim world, and those two
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Speaker 5: worlds overlap. A lot of South Asians and such are Muslim,
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Speaker 5: and so there's a heavy Muslim and believe it or not, Buddhist,
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Speaker 5: who are supposed to be all non mio horng gay
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Speaker 5: kill and all of that, there have not been that
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Speaker 5: accepting of gay people.
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Speaker 4: They are now, you know, the Dali Lama.
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Speaker 5: Has sort of evolved, but he wasn't always so pro gay,
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Speaker 5: which is odd for a group of people who wear.
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Speaker 4: Orange dresses that they wouldn't, you know.
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Speaker 5: But so in Southeast Asia and Korea and other places,
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Speaker 5: it's still rough. It's well, it's a rough every where,
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Speaker 5: but it's rough in South Korea, and it shouldn't be
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Speaker 5: because they're very progressive there.
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Speaker 3: Should add, we don't necessarily have the strength of numbers
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Speaker 3: with regards to the religious in South Korea because as
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Speaker 3: one of the largest atheist, no no religious affiliation populations
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Speaker 3: in the world. And so it's.
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Speaker 5: It's yeah, but it's still the Protestants there, who are
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Speaker 5: only one fifth of the of the population, who are
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Speaker 5: the ones that are the most vocal in their opposition
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Speaker 5: to pride. So interesting, so the Protestants are the ones
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Speaker 5: who are causing the problem. And even though there are
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Speaker 5: only one fifth of the population, they're allowed one fifth
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Speaker 5: and others listen.
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Speaker 4: Next right, uh huh.
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Speaker 3: Them reports that the Trump administration is going to restore
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Speaker 3: nine eight eighths specialized LGBTQ plus youth crisis land by
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Speaker 3: year's end after eliminating it official site congressional direction, but
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Speaker 3: advocates remained skeptical as implementation clashes with federal policies denying
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Speaker 3: transgender recognition and in collusion. So we're seeing again, as
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Speaker 3: you're noting international pendulum swings, we're also noting domestic.
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Speaker 5: No, if they're allowing this, it's because they're afraid of
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Speaker 5: getting sued or they're afraid of a court compelling them
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Speaker 5: to do it. They would not do it out of
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Speaker 5: the goodness of their heart or because it's the right
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Speaker 5: thing to do. The Trump administration wouldn't know the right
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Speaker 5: thing to do if it jumped up and bit them
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Speaker 5: in the ass.
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Speaker 3: So that it's not the Christian's love for us that
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Speaker 3: prevents them from burning us at the stake, it's the
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Speaker 3: impotence of their love.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 5: So this was based on a lawsuit, and you know,
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Speaker 5: instead of you know, fighting the lawsuit, they decided to
24:50
Speaker 5: let's go ahead and do it. And also a lot
24:53
Speaker 5: of them are running and dead kids aren't a good
24:56
Speaker 5: platform to run on, So you know, I mean, I
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Speaker 5: mean truly, the HHS spokesperson said, working with the nine
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Speaker 5: eight eight network administrator Vibrant Emotional Health to reactivate PRESS
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Speaker 5: three operations. It was Press three if You're gay by
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Speaker 5: the end of the year. The spokesperson described the effort
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Speaker 5: as part of Congress's Fiscal year twenty twenty six directive
25:16
Speaker 5: to restore the services. So Congress had to tell them
25:19
Speaker 5: to do it, and Congress already had the money allocated,
25:23
Speaker 5: so they're like, do it. This was not something they
25:26
Speaker 5: wanted to do, but a bipartisan group of lawmakers obtained
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Speaker 5: earlier by the advocate the Substance Abuse and Mental Health
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Speaker 5: Service Administration set on behalf of the HHS Robert Kennedy
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Speaker 5: Junior that is evaluating how to restore the nine eight
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Speaker 5: eight lifeline Specialized Services for LGBTQ youth, commonly known as
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Speaker 5: PRESS three, following Congress's direction, and I believe that Congress
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Speaker 5: put a caveat in there. I'd have to double check
25:52
Speaker 5: in the story where the other funding was tied to this.
25:56
Speaker 5: So if they didn't do this, they weren't going to
25:58
Speaker 5: get other money. So they said, oh, fuck it, we'll
26:00
Speaker 5: just do it to get this money. So but believe
26:03
Speaker 5: me if they were forced to buy Congress and it
26:06
Speaker 5: was over money, but they did it. However, don't get
26:10
Speaker 5: too happy, because the agency said that restoration would need
26:12
Speaker 5: to comply with Donald Trump's executive order, which requires federal
26:16
Speaker 5: agencies to recognize only two genders and reject federal recognition
26:21
Speaker 5: of transgendered identity. So how are you going to set
26:24
Speaker 5: up a not a press three option for people who
26:27
Speaker 5: are trans and questioning if you can't talk to them
26:30
Speaker 5: about being trans in questioning. So again, this will probably
26:34
Speaker 5: end up in court.
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Speaker 4: We'll see. But you know, but good for Congress legislative
26:41
Speaker 4: to raise people.
26:42
Speaker 5: Well yeah, I mean, at least, look, Congress is pretty
26:45
Speaker 5: useless at this point, but at least Congress could not
26:48
Speaker 5: have been clearer. The Trump administration must restore the nine
26:50
Speaker 5: eight eight lifeline.
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Speaker 4: They must.
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Speaker 5: Congress did not leave them, you know, they said the
26:56
Speaker 5: president cannot executive orders, cannot override FED law, and Congress
27:01
Speaker 5: already settled this question. So Congress already set up this hotline.
27:06
Speaker 5: They already said it was going to be for trans people,
27:08
Speaker 5: gay people, by people, and his executive order can't override that,
27:11
Speaker 5: which I'm sure he's pissed about.
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Speaker 4: Next.
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Speaker 3: Next, good news from UCA News talking about faith leaders
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Speaker 3: welcoming Japan's first National LGBT Awareness Plan. Cabinet approved framework
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Speaker 3: calling for training, research, public education, consultation systems, will affirming
27:35
Speaker 3: unjust discrimination is unacceptable across businesses, governments, schools, local communities
27:42
Speaker 3: and workplaces nationwide.
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Speaker 5: Did you see the Buddhist monk in the story that
27:47
Speaker 5: was interviewed declined to give his name. The Buddhist leader
27:52
Speaker 5: cautioned that changing social attitudes would take time. Okay, I
27:56
Speaker 5: applaud Japan for this, I do. It's just kind of
27:59
Speaker 5: insulting as a gay man that you have to actually
28:05
Speaker 5: counsel people and tell people how not to discriminate against gays.
28:11
Speaker 5: I mean, it seems pretty simple. Just treat everybody like
28:15
Speaker 5: you want to be treated fairly, period, end of story.
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Speaker 4: So it's kind of odd to me.
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Speaker 5: That the national Cabinet's decision to adopt a plan aim
28:26
Speaker 5: to promoting public understanding of gay people and other sexual minorities.
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Speaker 4: What is there to understand?
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Speaker 5: You know, we're human, and instead of going when people
28:37
Speaker 5: of the opposite gender, we go with the people of
28:39
Speaker 5: the same gender.
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Speaker 4: That's not hard to understand.
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Speaker 5: So I don't I get it, and good for them,
28:47
Speaker 5: But I think all across the globe we make far
28:50
Speaker 5: too much about.
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Speaker 4: The complex issue of day. It's not hard.
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Speaker 5: Treat us like you treat anyone else. There you go,
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Speaker 5: that's it.
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Speaker 4: If I could peat anybody.
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Speaker 3: Yet also footnote it don't have to understand something.
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Speaker 4: So parts well, we'll end with that.
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