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Episode 111 - Backdrops in Backlots Heels S1E4 · My Third Place Pod

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Arrow premiered on The CW Network on October 12, 2012.
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Initially, I wasn't a fan. For me, it was too soon to
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release a Green Arrow TV show that had nothing to do with
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Justin Hartley, the actor that I come to know as Oliver Queen.
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The Green Arrow. My Green Arrow on the hit show
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Smallville, which had just ended the year before.
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So when I watched the episode for the very first time, I
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immediately thought I was going to like this too much back story
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of a new character and a new actor that had knew nothing
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about. I took a pass on it in 2012.
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I took a pass on almost everything, actually.
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I was still dealing with being fired from a job that I was at
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for eight years and was still dealing with depression.
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So instead, I went back to watching comfort shows.
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Everything that I watched before I watched them again.
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Smallville, Buffy, Angel. Glee went through Hill until
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they decided it was time to watch new shows that had already
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ended their first season run and found out they got a second
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season. Dean Wolf Elementary.
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Baby Daddy don't trust the Bee in Apt 23.
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Yeah, those arrow on the other hand, again passed.
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OK, maybe not. Maybe.
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I decided to give it a little go when I found out Grant Gustin
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from the show Glee was going to play Barry Allen on Arrow.
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Yes, The Flash, the fastest man alive.
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Smallville didn't start adding their hero guests until later in
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the season, so I thought this was too soon.
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Perhaps this guy Arrow already wanted to build his Justice
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League. And yet I still haven't seen a
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Supergirl or Superman yet. And then I was told to watch the
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show. I wanted to watch that episode
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that Barry is going to be in. So I didn't figure.
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Let's start from the beginning. When I tell you that I was bored
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from the first season, they made this guy out to be Batman for
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some reason. Well, in my eye I gave it a
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chance. Anyways, still looked up to see
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what else this guy played and I haven't seen him in anything
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since. Fast forward to when The Flash
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gets greenlit his own show. I'm on board from the start.
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I guess this makes me a fan of the Arrow verse.
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I hated that term. Who was this guy Stephen Amell
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and why was he all over my superhero screens?
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And where is my other Arrow? My other Arrow?
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Justin Hartley will soon get star in a lot of shows that
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since been cancelled. A long running soap opera, some
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voice acting from some of my favorite shows and DC movies,
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and finally we show up on my screen again in 2016 on This Is
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Us initially when I first saw that hey, it's Arrow, but this
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isn't us, this is 2023 and this was last week from an article on
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CNN. Stephen Amel is clarifying his
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comments about the current actors strike.
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Amel, who came to fame on Arrow and is currently starring on
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heels on Stars, was asked about the actors strike over the
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weekend during an appearance at Galaxicon in Raleigh, NC.
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I support my union, I do, and I stand with them, he says in a
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video shared on social media. But I do not support striking.
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I don't, he added. I think that is a reductive
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negotiating tactic and I find the entire thing incredibly
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frustrating and I think that the thinking as it pertains to shows
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like the show that I'm on that premiered last night healed.
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I think it's myopic. A male subsequently clarified
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his remarks in a statement shared on Instagram last
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Tuesday, August 1st, 2023. Understandably, there has been a
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lot of reaction to the comments I made this weekend about our
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strike. His post began to ensure there
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is no misunderstanding about my sauce and intentions.
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I'm providing what I actually said in clarity context to
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ensure my feelings aren't unintentionally misinterpreted.
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We all know sound bites can be taken out of context and I have
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too much respect for my fellow union members to clarify the
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record, A Milton further explains his position on the
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strike. I understand fundamentally why
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we're here. My off the cuff youth of the
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word support is clearly contradictory to my true
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feelings and my pathetic statement that I stand with my
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union, he wrote. Of course I don't like striking.
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Nobody does. But we have to do what we have
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to do. In terms of referring to the
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strike as a reductive negotiating tactic he found
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frustrating, Mel wrote. I am out, but I certainly don't
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think these issues are simple. Our leadership has an incredibly
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complicated job and I'm grateful for all that they do, this
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statement continued. From intellectual perspective, I
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understand why we are striking, but that doesn't mean it is
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emotionally frustrating on many levels.
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For all and involved, SAGAFTRA represents about 160,000
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currently on strike against major film and television
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studios over contract terms related to compensation,
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artificial intelligence, protections and other issues.
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The strike commands on July 14th.
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Writers in the industry have been on strike since May 2.
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CNN has reached out to representatives for SAG after in
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a mail for further comment. Hello again and welcome.
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This is from under the Apron I had to I know I was talking
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about This Is Us. Hey, a little while ago, great
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show. Check that one out.
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I saw the tweets everyone made. They hate the guy now, but I
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love the heal show. So I'm going to continue to talk
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about the show but not about the guy.
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Kind of like respect the art and not the artist.
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On a little positive note though, I went to go to check
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what the cast of Arrow is doing now and I couldn't even make it
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past the girl that played for Leslie Smoke, Emily Beth
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records. I liked her on the show, so I
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had to check what she's into now.
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Turns out she is set to star in a movie alongside the wrestlers
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Charlotte Flair and Lib Morgan. What What It says here?
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The feature is based on the 2009 book Queen of the Rings, Sex,
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Muscles, Diamonds, and the Making of an American Legend by
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Pulitzer Prize winning author Jeff Lean.
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Paradise City writer Ash Adelson is on board to write and direct
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the feature, with Amy Schuf missing in America and as
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Robbins Tesla executive producing.
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Legendary wrestling announcer Jim Ross is working behind the
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scenes on this film as well. Queen of the Ring is a Biograph
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is a biography about the iconic Mildred Burke who Rickers will
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portray it the film the longest reigning champion of female
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wrestling. The story follows just how
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petite Miss Westerner used her beauty and Bron to dominate
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America's both masculine sport from the mid 1930s to the mid
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1950s. Charlotte flair Lib Morgan will
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portray fellow wrestler June Byers and Clara Mortenson
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respectively. So Full Circle Cinema reported
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that in May of this year. So I went to IMDb to check out
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the cast and this is what I found out.
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Lib will no longer be playing Mortenson.
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Instead it will now be a wrestler.
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Tony Storm and I couldn't find anything on June Byers or if
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Charlotte Player is still in the movie.
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Others to be in the roles, of course, are Josh Lucas, who will
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play Billy Wolf. Adam Demo, who will play
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Gorgeous George. Francesca Eastwood will play a
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younger version of Mae Young. Marie Agaropoulos, who played
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Octavia on the hit TV show The 100, who will play Elvira
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Snodgrass. Demaris Lewis will play
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Babswingo. Ash Vilson will play Vince
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McMahon. Senior Jim Cornett will play an
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N.W.A commissioner. And last but not least, Trinity
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notes Alright So Heels Season One, Episode 4, Cutting Promos.
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Cutting promos means performing the talking segments of a
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wrestling event as opposed to wrestling itself, with promo
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being short for promotion. It aired on September 5th, 2021,
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directed by Jessica Lowry, again written by Daria Bosington.
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The subnosis of the show. After a house fire forces, Jack
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and his family move in with Carol and Ace, the two brothers
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put the differences aside, their heads together to generate a DWL
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promo to further grow the league's fan base.
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So let's start with what happened.
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So at the end of that episode, last week's episode, you heard
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the commotion that was going on with Wild Bill.
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He went to Willie and told her like he fucked up.
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You saw videos. It went viral of what he did.
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You saw voice messages of him telling Willie, not even him
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telling Willie, but the fact that he was arguing while stuff
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was going on. So here we start off with this
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days ago while Bill attends a board meeting to discuss the new
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redesign title belt. One of the young execs is
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holding a title belt that glows and says they are still waiting
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for the bot to sign off and the redesign logo, which will go in
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the center. He explains that if fans sit in
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the Nobles seats, the current belts are really hard to see,
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but this revised and improvised title belt is highly visible.
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Another young executive tells him the dynamic redesigned lands
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them and premium placement in stores, toy stores no less.
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Bill is an impressed as a belt now resembles a kids toy to
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adding that if it needs sound effects, make it beep and boop
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and shit. The young exec sitting on board
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and says it's perfect. Kids will love playing with it
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even more. A Bill puts his cup of coffee
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down and tell everyone that yes, that's all it is.
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A toy. A toy.
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He fractures his squall for a toy.
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He got two knee replacements for a toy.
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He watched a lot of friends die in a effing gutter chasing it
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down. He scares the young exec and his
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boss Maria Sovetto, played by Sharon Connolly, tells them to
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Please remember this is an office and not a ring.
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Bill tells Maria that this is all a ring.
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Maria whispers to Bill that as a former champion, they need to
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him to get behind us. Bill says this belt looks like a
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piece of shit. However, he will reluctantly
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endorse the belt as it's what the company asked of him.
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They all leave the conference room and while Bill stares at a
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glowing belt after the meeting, he catches a plane to Cleveland.
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During the flight, he becomes so intoxicated with six tiny
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bottles of Old Fashioned, he gets up to grab his luggage from
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the overhead and takes it to the bathroom, grabbing maybe six or
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more tiny bottles of full fashion.
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He watched inside the bathroom and possibly minutes later he is
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checked up on by a steward. He asked the bathroom.
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He exits the bathroom naked, with nothing more than a hat on
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his head, his robe, and the glowing belt around his waist
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for the other Flyers to record. As he's yelling and screaming.
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This is what he thinks of their toy belt.
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You corporate cunt. He continues to go to the back
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of the plane naked while the stewardess gets on the phone and
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calls for an air marshal. This scene actually happened in
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real life. For those that know where this
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is going, yes I'm going there. For those that are new here,
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either you've seen this play out undocumentary form on dark side
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or ring or just heard of it throughout the year.
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This is taking from the wrestling Wikipedia site.
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On May 5th, 2002 a number of the wrestlers and management members
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flew from Great Britain to the United States following the end
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of a European Tour which concluded with a British
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pay-per-view event, Insurrection 2002 on the now infamous flight
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dubbed the Plane Ride from Hell. There were a number of incidents
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involving the the management and wrestlers that were later
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attributed to the heavy drinking on the flight, partially because
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the flight was delayed for an hour before takeoff.
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This part of the incident while Bill exposing himself to
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everybody in the plane, is similar to that of what Nature
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Boy Rick Flair did the 16th time World Champion allegedly
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disfrobe during the flight and then rerobed with nothing on
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underneath. Flair would go on to be named in
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a sexual harassment lawsuit from Sport Jet flight attendant after
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costing accosting 2 female flight attendants.
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While partially nude present day Jack rushes to Thomas room at
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the sound of the smoke detector. One of Thomas outlets have
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caught fire and it quickly spreads, forcing Stacy and
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Thomas to leave the house as Jack extinguishes the flame.
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Meanwhile, Bill has been staying with Willie ever since the plane
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incident. Willie's husband Ted, played by
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Larry Clark, prepares pancakes for breakfast, where Wild Bill
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shows him the viral video of himself on the plane with his
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natural blessing, out for everyone to see.
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They're joined by Willie's daughter Robin, played by
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Margaret Morris, real life daughter of Mary McCormack, who
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asked if he left anything for breakfast for her and he
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laughed. Ted asked what the casualty
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would Bill suspension or a fine. Bill says Bossy just wants them
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to lay low until she sorts things out.
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Ted says he imagines Post 911. He has some US Marshal issues.
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Here. Bill makes fun of test usage of
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post 911 being a timely reference.
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And why not just say post Watergate a post Berlin Wall.
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While Bill says the only thing he did was raid a beverage cart
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and his viral video put the league back in the spotlight.
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Bad publicity is good publicity. Willie chimes in with but
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calling your boss to see where it's not so much.
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Robin joins in on the conversation and ask him to see
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where the cock word or the cunt word both William Depp Ted
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reprimanded Robin saying they say the C word because it's
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impolite to say the actual word, while Bill explains to Robin
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that both C words are actual representation of his bosses who
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are corporate assholes who constantly dismissed the input
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of Mavericks likes himself, icons who built a global
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enterprise and who now must watch it be destroyed by
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ruthless lust for money, Cock word and cunt word.
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A lot of them. Ted is Ted is in the background,
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growing like this man has been in his home for 5 minutes.
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He's already frustrated with him, Bill tells Robin.
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Don't be afraid of words or people.
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The fire department reveals that the squirrels chewed through the
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house wiring, which will cost more than they have to repair
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with no type of emergency cushion.
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Stacy is contemplating getting a job, but Jack asked that she
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hold off as he has a meeting with Eddie Earl, who could be
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potentially invested interested in investing the DWL.
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In the meantime, they'll be staying with Mama Carol at the
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Dome. Rooster Apocalypse and Diego are
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playing cards and discussing bedroom habits well as crystal
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cut Bobby pins hair into a mullet.
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He questioned. Ace ever said sorry for what he
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said to Crystal the other night, but he isn't the sorry type.
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Crystal replied When she finishes his cut, Diego steps up
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and ask her if she could cut his hair but he's short on cash.
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But he says he has this $20.00 gift card for tgi Friday's.
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Bobby asked Crystal to stop by his trailer before she leaves as
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he has something to run by her. The boys make fun of Bobby
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trying to run game on Crystal. He leaves and Diego asked her
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Crystal sings had Bobby has sliced.
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He don't trust that mullet. Crystal asked Diego.
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What about that beer of his? As promised, Crystal stopped by
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Bobby's trailer, which he got from his grandfather.
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Bob reveals that he likes to write mostly rap lyrics be also
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started for graphic novels. He then looks to Crystal for
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answers on Who is Bobby Pin, meaning he hardly understands
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his own character. Willie wants to continue his
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story with Ace, but she says that his gimmick sucks.
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So you want Crystal's help with generating a new gimmick, one he
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can inhibit. Crystal corrects him by saying
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Inhabit. Bobby doesn't know the different
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friends, so Crystal tells him the definition.
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One prevents you from doing the thing that you want, inhibit the
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other you become this thing you want Inhabit.
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Bobby says English is an amazing language, while Crystal laughs
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and says she does crossword puzzles.
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Bobby tells Crystal he's a cure about his ideas and.
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And if he tells Jack, then Jack is not going to give him a push.
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Crystal tells him not to oversink about Jack, or will or
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won't do. Bobby asked Crystal to help him
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think of something badass, and he's asking her because he
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thinks she's badass and people respect her.
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He plays her new song he's been working on, but she isn't
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convinced that the rap route is right for Bobby.
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Oh come on, don't tell me Forgot his answers music already.
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Don't worry, he made a remix. Here it is.
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Happy listening. Next scene, Jack and Willie
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approached Eddie and Annie Earl with a PowerPoint in hopes that
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he'll continue to sponsor them with more money.
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However, Eddie doesn't feel as though investing further would
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be wise. Supporting the DWL is good for
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his pawn shop, but it doesn't help with his secondhand car
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business, which could use the growth but the DWL doesn't have
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to reach. His biggest problem is in the
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name. Every show is the house show and
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no one outside of stuff he cares.
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The DWL has little to no chance of expanding.
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Jack is enraged after the meeting, but Willie calms him
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and prevents Jax from getting the better him, their only
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chance to prove Eddie wrong. In the meantime, Willie tells
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Jack to worry about his fire fiasco while she deals with
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Bill, who she used to be in a relationship with.
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Things that end well between Willie and Bill, so hopefully
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her allowing him to stay as a way to move past it.
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And with Bill down on his luck, he may be willing to promote to
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WL, though Jack wants nothing to do with him.
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Next scene while Bill calls his manager.
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I didn't hear her name so I went to go look it up.
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It is Paula Portis who was being played by Carrie O'Malley, wife
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of Michael O'Malley, who plays Charlie Gulley on the show.
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Paula is at the dentist and tell him to play nice until
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renegotiations are done. He tell her she's his manager.
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He gave her something to manage. She asked him if she wants her
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to manage his Dick and how to keep it in his pants.
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She warns him that his behavior is toxic and that he needs to go
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to rehab. Is a legitimate gesture that
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they may respond to with some compassion, while Bill is to do
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nothing until she says otherwise.
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They hang up but a little extra funny on Paula's part as she
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tells the dental nurse. Is that what they're called?
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Nurse. Dental assistant?
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Dental nurse. All right, Paula tells her she
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knows it's a dental cleaning, but can she also get some
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laughing gas? The dental technician stops what
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she's doing and gives Paula this weird stare.
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Next scene is the Piggly Wiki shopping center.
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Yes is called the Piggly Wiggly. Stacy, Carroll and Thomas go
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grocery shopping and discuss the possibility of Stacy getting a
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job, which Carol never considered it as she was
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constantly designing, cutting and sewing wrestling costume for
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her husband and boys who she dedicated her entire life to.
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It's the life of a mom, so she's hot.
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Stacy questioned why Carol never worked.
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Carol explains that raising kids it's a full time job if you're
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doing it right and if anyone agree disagrees with her, then
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they are wrong. She says she thought she would
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be living elsewhere, but things turned out differently.
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Before the scene ends, Carol asked Stacy to grab a bag of
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Pillsbury flower, but Stacy says she has a coupon for another
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kind of flower. Carol react just like any senior
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citizen would at this stage of her life.
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She finds something that works for her and she sticks with it.
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So Pillsbury for her. Stacy smiles at her son and
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grabs a Pillsbury flower bag. Next scenes, Crystal schedules a
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picture of what she believes could be Bobby's new costume.
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His new name should be Bobby 85, as he already has the mullet to
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match. The 85 refers to the golden age
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of wrestling, when wrestlers had wild long hair and more
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importantly, mullet. Crystal tells him it's
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nostalgia. People want to remember how good
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shit used to be, and that is what Bobby, 85, would represent.
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Bobby says he may need to stop eating too much because Crystal
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drew his abs a little too good. Crystal assures him he looks
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good. They high five.
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I love this innocent little flirty thing they have going.
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It's innocent. It really is innocent.
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Especially after the last episode where Ace just pushed
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her off and treated her like shit.
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So Bobby is trying to, like, look for a friend.
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He's not from around Buffy. You heard him in his little
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entrance music. He's from Texas.
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Ace heads to the bar, where he visits an old friend, Trisha,
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who works there as a bartender, Trisha, played by Elizabeth
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Posey, who's been on, oh, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and
26:44
Euphoria. And it's also the cousin of 1,
26:48
Tyler Posey, who you know him best as Scott McCall on the hit
26:52
TV show Teen Wolf. Yeah, we're going full circle
26:56
here. And you know, wrestling has more
26:59
than one world family and so does Hollywood Treasure, who's
27:04
looking like a hot ass smoke show wearing short shorts and
27:07
what looks like a bandana around her chest, a red bandana looking
27:11
strappy top. What do y'all call that Lady?
27:17
OK, her and Ace flirt for a minute, gets him a beer and 24
27:21
wings, and tells him that Bill is boosing and blowing Oxy in
27:25
the bathroom. Ace doesn't want to take
27:28
chances. We need to ask Trisha for those
27:30
wings to go. She tells him that she gets off
27:33
in an hour if he wants to stick around and flirt with her for
27:35
some more and they can hang out. After a doesn't know what to do,
27:41
Building joins Ace at the bar, claiming that he's only in town
27:44
for a little while until heading back to headquarters.
27:47
Ace tells Bill that everyone saw his video.
27:49
Bill says it helped build his brand.
27:51
Just ask the smoke show over there, who probably seen it.
27:55
Trisha quickly turns around and quips that he needs a shade a
27:59
trim down there. He says they don't call him a
28:01
Wild Bill for nothing. He gots untamed pubes and it I
28:05
can't with this guy. Trisha laughs and walks away.
28:09
Bill turns to A's and tells him he would eat a mile of her shed
28:12
just to lick where it came out. Oh my God, jeez, even the A's is
28:18
uncomfortable. He asked how long Bill is in
28:22
town for. Bill says any day now,
28:24
headquarters will call him and ask him to come back up and get
28:28
a new assignment. Ace intends to leave, but while
28:31
Bill convinces him to stay and play pool against two other
28:33
patrons, during which Bill messes up a shot and the two
28:37
different players begin to chuckle.
28:40
Bill ask if he wants to know the trick.
28:42
Ace asked to what? Bill then goes on a tangent.
28:47
Every day, 100 things happen to make me want to spit.
28:51
Fucking people and all their bullshit, their untested
28:55
manhood. It makes me want to step on a
28:57
frog, hear crunch and ooze. No time for a final feeble
29:02
Ribbit. The regular folks, they got the
29:05
lot of shit that go puke out the black flies.
29:13
But I use it. I soak it up.
29:16
That's my superpower. He then takes off his dress
29:19
shirt, tells Ace to pay attention as he goes over to
29:21
instigate a fight with the opposing players to prove the
29:23
point to Ace that he's the best at what he does.
29:28
He believed as an ace to the same as Tom.
29:32
Should Ace find a way to tap into that while Bill promised
29:35
him that riches will flow, I kind of think I have an idea why
29:41
Tom did what he did. He was not such a nice guy
29:44
outside the ring to other people, but when he got into the
29:47
ring, he was the best heal or face.
29:50
It was like a superpower. He tapped into it.
29:53
Bill mentioned something in the scene that him and Tom would do,
29:56
hustle the patrons and make him feel bad, like Bill just did.
30:01
So maybe he was done with that. That's where the mental health
30:03
problem persisted. He was a sheddy father to Ace
30:07
when he was young, but good to everyone, their faces, and then
30:10
an asshole again. Like in that first episode when
30:14
Ace told that girl that Tom said she probably ate the dog.
30:19
I don't think he wanted to be an asshole anymore because Ace is
30:22
having such a hard time tapping into that supposed superpower.
30:25
How much of it did Tom tap into, and how much of it is Jack
30:29
tapping into it? Later that night, Ace arrived
30:33
home to find Jack, Stacy, Thomas, and Carol awaiting his
30:37
arrival. They have dinner, they form a
30:40
prayer circle, and Tom is thus the prayer.
30:44
When Thomas ends the prayer with blessing his grandpa Spade,
30:49
Carol informs him that Tom is in hell, which is where people who
30:53
kill themselves go. Jack and Ace then excuse
30:56
themselves that they're no longer hungry after Carol's
30:58
Tangent, which Stacy was forced to end.
31:03
Crystal and Bobby go for ice cream, and Bobby sings her for
31:05
helping him come up with a new gimmick.
31:07
He tells her about his parents and how they wanted him to stay
31:10
the course, and he jokingly tells her that sometimes he
31:14
wished life was like Mario Kart, where he can see the map of the
31:17
course in the corner, and this way he can see where he's going.
31:22
From that metaphor, Lauren Crystal reveals she would always
31:26
play as Toad and Bobby reveals he would always play as Didi
31:30
Kong. Not gonna lie, I was a big
31:32
Bowser fan. If you're going to be an asshole
31:35
and Drew Blue Shells anyways, might as well do it as Bowser.
31:39
What was your character? Who did you always play?
31:42
As in the Mario Kart racing? Bobby thinks Bobby thanks
31:50
Crystal once again for helping him.
31:52
She admits when Bobby asked her to come to his trailer, she
31:55
thought he was going to make a move on her.
31:57
He says the only move he can do is the moonwalk.
32:01
Two kids then run up and ask for a photo with Bobby.
32:05
They asked for one with Crystal also, but she tells them she can
32:07
do it at the Dome. And then she watched it as Bobby
32:10
take a selfie, doing big muscle poses with them and laughing
32:13
along. Crystal remarks that he's going
32:15
to be a great face, whereas Ace on your hand wasn't so good with
32:20
turning on a smile. Ace has given up his room to
32:26
Thomas, who can't sleep. As he's thinking about what his
32:29
grandma said about Grandpa Spade being on fire, Ace comforts
32:32
Thomas, telling him that Grandpa Ace isn't on fire and that no
32:36
one knows what happens after that.
32:38
Thomas tells Ace that Grandma said it's in the Bible.
32:42
Ace tells Thomas that she should reread it.
32:45
Thomas asked Ace if he should tell her that Ace says
32:48
absolutely not a good idea. In the future, He advises,
32:52
Thomas just nod whenever someone says that they do know, as is
32:56
the way to end the conversation, that he doesn't want to be keep
32:58
having. Thomas says that, then ask who
33:01
cleaned up Grandpa Spade after he was found.
33:04
Ace revealed that Jack did and that he did a good job.
33:08
Thomas asked if Jack cried when he cleaned him up.
33:12
Ace says he was with Grandma and that she's so sad.
33:15
Thomas says that she seems mad. Ace then tells comments that
33:19
sometimes that's the way sad comes out.
33:22
He goes on to say that Grandpa Spade took his own life because
33:24
his spirit got broken. Hoping to cheer Tom is up, Ace
33:29
gives him a Georgia Bulldog blanket.
33:31
After his got destroyed in the fire, Ace goes downstairs the
33:38
basement. Jack thanks Ace for giving up
33:40
his bed for Thomas while Ace sleeps in the basement with
33:43
Jack, who is watching ODWL footage.
33:47
Jack tells Ace how he recently cut a promo challenging the
33:50
rock. Yes, the rock.
33:53
The rock rock. He hoped it would get shared on
33:56
social media, but it didn't quite work out that way.
33:59
A says. Kind of like the nerdy kid who
34:01
invited Taylor Swift to go to the prom with him, right?
34:04
Jack says yes. A says.
34:06
How cheesy. The old footage of Wild Bill and
34:10
Tom Space doing old promos. Where Jack quips.
34:13
It was only innovative, they were innovators.
34:16
Now has been done to Death A's remarks how Gully's promos are
34:20
more cinematic, but Jack isn't interested in his input.
34:24
Shutting Ace down? Leave him the question if you
34:26
have to be an asshole to be a heel?
34:28
Jack asked if Ace is really asking or is he calling him an
34:32
asshole? Jack explains that one is not
34:34
relying on the other to be a heel.
34:37
He simply needs to be able to take the heat and separate work
34:40
from life. Jack then gives Ace a chance to
34:43
help with the promo while Bill gets a call from his boss Maria,
34:49
who reveals that he's been let go from the company.
34:51
He says that Jack just about the most insincere thing he heard in
34:55
his life and pouts as he crosses his arms in the bathroom.
35:17
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The next day, Crystal's catching a potential costume for herself
37:49
with the Duffy championship being held up high in the air.
37:53
Bobby arrives at Crystal's with his costume and is excited that
37:57
she has trampoline that is perfect for practicing how to
38:01
Russell. He gets to the bathroom to try
38:03
on the costume. Bobby tells Crystal that he
38:06
intends to tell Jack and Willie that she helped his gimmick.
38:10
That Crystal insists that he doesn't, as she's just a ballet
38:14
and she needs to fly low for the time being.
38:17
While Bobby will respect her wishes, to him, she's more than
38:20
a valet. She's super smart and talented.
38:24
Yeah, the people at the top may not see it, but they do.
38:28
If anything, she deserves to push.
38:31
Bobby puts on a white, very mint coat and poses for Crystal with
38:35
his white and pink trunk that read Bobby 85 on his behind.
38:40
Crystal then comes to realization that he should just
38:42
stick to being Bobby Pin, who is a good guy by her account.
38:46
They both then get a text from Jack that they're shooting a
38:51
promo. The DWL films their first promo
38:55
at the gas station, where Crystal works as a cashier of
38:58
role that she maintains even the promo as Bobby's blindsided by
39:02
A's fresh off his heel Turn A says when you look what the cat
39:07
puked out of her gizzard, a fight breaks out between the two
39:12
and around a lot. They both end up off the bed of
39:15
a truck which is going inside the car wash and they continue
39:19
to fight each other as a camera catcher.
39:20
Their squabble which ends with Jack knocking them both to the
39:23
ground and telling them both if they gotta score the settle they
39:27
gotta do it in the ring and whoever wins gets a shot at the
39:29
DWL championship. The camera zooms in and on the
39:33
belt that Jack has around his waist and he yells cut.
39:39
After shooting the promo, Willie asked Bobby.
39:41
That's his new gimmick. Bobby says yes, he's just a
39:44
regular guy. Jack approves and says he's the
39:47
man of the people. A says he could do that promo
39:51
again if he they want. Crystal says they're paying her
39:53
to close down for an hour, so why not?
39:56
A's asked Jack if he if cats have gizzards.
40:00
Rooster says hell no cats don't have gizzards.
40:03
It's him. Diego and Puck make fun of him,
40:06
but tell him to blow his dry his hair.
40:08
And puts the moves on. Jack laughs and tells Ace that
40:12
it sounds good. Keep it in.
40:14
After a few more takes and recordings for another hour, Ace
40:17
pulls Crystal to the side and says that she did great.
40:21
He asked if she wants to celebrate their first automatic
40:23
promo, but she asked to get back to work.
40:28
Ace practically pushed her to the side and told her he's not
40:30
with her anymore. So plus after Ace takes Crystal
40:34
to the side you saw the look on the boys faces, especially when
40:37
Rooster looked at Bobby. It's almost as if Rooster knows
40:41
Bobby is flirting with Crystal and something is going on there.
40:44
And the fact that 8th is trying to talk to her again and then
40:49
after a sleep she seems unsure of him and annoyed that he never
40:53
apologized to her for being an asshole in the last episode.
40:57
He leaves and she goes back to hanging out with the boys,
40:59
especially the way Bobby looks at her when she goes to him next
41:06
thing. Stacy, apologize to Carol for
41:08
what happened the other night at dinner.
41:10
She's presumably under a lot of stress with Tom's death
41:13
anniversary coming up, but Carol would prefer not to talk about
41:16
it. Though Stacy wants to know how
41:19
she feels as she and Carol have never really talked much despite
41:22
Stacy and Jack haven't been married for nine years.
41:26
Stacy asked. Stacy tells Carol she ever needs
41:29
to talk about anything. She is there.
41:32
We again get into the mental health aspect of the show.
41:34
Her husband and alive himself, and he left her without doing
41:37
much. So how does she feel?
41:40
Carol reveals that Tom let her never let her drive, not even to
41:44
the store, and when she gets into the car now she barely
41:47
knows what to do. She's that really scared and
41:51
just lets a take her everywhere. She occasionally thinks about
41:55
that and gets so angry, which is why she sometimes says things.
41:59
She finds that anger is more useful than grief.
42:02
Stacy says she understands and felt.
42:05
Carol says that no one can step into her loss for her and the
42:08
reason why talking about the past makes her so mad.
42:13
Carol snaps out of her transit, tells Stacy she better get
42:15
going. I'm sure she's going to be late.
42:17
Stacy hugs Carol, which is what she probably needed.
42:20
As Stacy walks away, Carol lets out a huge sigh of relief.
42:27
Willie finds while Bill peeing in the lake later the night,
42:30
where he reveals to her that he was fired.
42:33
He overheard Ted and Robin talking about the promo and
42:36
questions why didn't come to him, but Jack doesn't want to be
42:40
anywhere near Bill. He accuses Jack of being the
42:43
reasons Tom killed himself. Willie gives Bill an ugly stare
42:49
while Bill is drunk again and he's talking.
42:51
So of course he asked Willie if he fucked up his business
42:55
relationship with Jack like he fucked up his whole life up.
42:58
He sees her looking down her nose at him.
43:00
He tells her he tells Willie her life.
43:04
He know that. Perfect.
43:06
He then goes Willie into a fight, calling Ted a Weiner,
43:10
asking if Ted knows Bill used to tag his wife and still allows
43:14
him in his home, and saying that it's too bad he wasn't around to
43:18
pay for Robin's abortion. In the fit of rage, Willie
43:22
attacks Bill and he stopped her from hitting him, but it acts
43:24
like he's about to punch her and fix it.
43:27
He tells her she didn't move and laughed.
43:30
She's taken hits before. If this was a relationship, then
43:33
Bill must have a beautifully before she walks away heading to
43:37
the House, Will Bill says. This is why she's the greatest.
43:42
The following morning, Ted has grown all thrown out all of
43:46
Bill's belongings outside the house and onto the driveway,
43:49
telling him that he can book a hotel by an Interstate where
43:52
they have rooms, free practice and all the syrup he can eat.
43:58
Later that night, AIDS arrived at Crystal's to find Bobby and
44:03
Crystal jumping on the trampoline outside of her
44:05
trailer, though he remains hidden behind the parked cars,
44:08
acting like a jealous ex and lurking as Crystal gets on top
44:12
of Bobby and pins him. Later that night, on his way to
44:15
the car, he asked Crystal when she would like to get some ice
44:19
cream, but she doesn't think it would be a good idea for them to
44:23
be seen too often in public, considering that she's aces
44:26
valet and he's aces rival. He arrived at his truck that's
44:31
covered at his car, been keyed, though he isn't too upset.
44:37
Surprisingly, Crystal looks around to see if he was around
44:40
looking, but she might have an idea who it might have been.
44:45
Next scene is in the back porch drinking a beer and looking out
44:49
into the distance at the mass he just made.
44:54
Carol joins AIDS and tells him not to wallow in his foul mood
44:57
as his father did the same before taking his own life.
45:01
Ace tells Carol his dad was mixed up and checked out.
45:04
While he may have taken his own life, Ace says that his father
45:08
isn't in hell. He didn't tells his mom that
45:10
Judas betrayed the Lord. His dad wasn't Judas.
45:13
He sure God must have known that he didn't reveal so often.
45:17
He hears the gunshots in his head despite it being nearly a
45:20
year since his death. Ace can stop sleep.
45:25
Ace can't sleep without playing music as he geared the gunshots.
45:28
When it's too quiet, Carol tells him to separate himself from the
45:32
sadness, but Ace would rather listen to it and sort through
45:36
it. He noticed that his mother
45:38
stopped smiling along before his dad killed himself and suggests
45:42
that she look into why that is. Maybe she'll be happy again.
45:47
Stacy calls Jack and ask about his day.
45:50
She then tells him that she got a part time job at the grocery
45:52
store. Stacy thinks back to Carol and
45:55
she doesn't want suing costumes for the WL to be the only thing
45:58
she is good at A Stacy also wants to go back to school
46:02
eventually, but in the meantime she needs something to occupy
46:05
her time so Jack supports her in her attempt to find happiness.
46:12
Next scene, Ace has to sex with Trisha after he tells her about
46:17
how his dad used to always tell him to hold it together.
46:21
However, she doesn't seem much interested in what he has to say
46:24
and ask if he wants to go again. He says yes and they do.
46:28
Black Eye by Uncle Tupelo plays through the ending for the
46:31
episode, and we see Jack visit Wild Bill at his hotel room to
46:35
tell him to leave Ace alone. But when he finds him at the ice
46:39
machine in complete misery, Jack simply leaves.
46:44
Bill spends another night getting drunk.
46:47
He gets onto the roof of the motel, jumps up and down and
46:50
yells for the camera, zooms out to reveal all the lights being
46:53
turned on from all the commotion.
46:57
Plus him yelling this. Oh yeah, this young girl.
47:03
Wow. Bill Hancock and I am here.
47:14
What the fuck? Yeah, yeah.
47:19
Who won't supply, Who won't supply?
47:28
And the scene face the black to play the credits.
47:31
There's no point in doing the rating system when I'm the only
47:34
one doing them. So I'll just tell you what, I
47:37
saw the episode instead of my take on three specific scenes.
47:43
First, while Bill's very centric arc of working for a major
47:47
company, getting drunk, and still not accepting rehab as his
47:50
major problem, because he has a major problem and he's not
47:54
admitting it, he gets fired and then continues to take out on
47:57
the people around him. Willie told Jack that his sex
48:00
was good, but there was something going on on there.
48:03
And that's something else you saw when while Bill fake punch
48:06
Willie and he thought she didn't move.
48:09
My take on that is that they were in an abusive relationship,
48:12
and that's how it ended as well. Jack told A's not to take the
48:17
heel aspects of his post ona home, and this is what he meant
48:20
by that. Wild Bill acting like a heel
48:25
even as he was drunk. Second, Ace drove up to crystals
48:30
with his music blaring and neither Crystal or Bobby hurt
48:33
any of it while they were playing around with trampoline.
48:36
Weird. And if Ace was the one that
48:38
keyed Bobby's car, you're telling me they couldn't hear
48:40
it? 8th even slammed it over to his
48:43
car so he too has a lot of to work on.
48:47
If something doesn't go his way, he just moves along.
48:50
Crystal told Bobby they don't they shouldn't hang around with
48:53
each other because they would look right.
48:56
Saying that she's a valet of a heel and Bobby is a face.
48:59
This again reminds me of that time I saw Jim Duggan, a face
49:02
and the Iron Sheik. The biggest heel were Rd.
49:05
tripping and was stopped by the police for smoking weed
49:07
together. And 3rd Jack trying to keep it
49:12
together throughout this whole episode.
49:13
His argument with Eddie and Annie Earl about being sponsored
49:17
and getting back up for his website.
49:19
His house being on fire, moving to his mom's house for a bit and
49:23
still having to work while his own mom thinks that his dad's
49:26
burning in hell for what he did to himself.
49:28
Also making sure while Bill never comes around his family or
49:31
any of his people again, he's a protector.
49:34
He you can tell right away he's trying to protect his family.
49:39
The fire. He doesn't want to hear his mom
49:42
say that his dad's in hell. He leaves, and again with Wild
49:46
Bill, like he if Wild Bill wasn't out there looking like in
49:52
complete misery, he probably would have told him something or
49:56
punched him in the face. It was a great episode.
50:01
I enjoyed it, watched it various times.
50:04
I loved the fun aspect of shooting the promo and it's
50:06
where everyone had fun doing it. So there's that.
50:11
I hope you enjoyed it also, but that's going to do it for this
50:15
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