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Best of Chuck in the Morning 8-11 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 2: Now we're not a long time for the action never stopped?
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  Speaker 2: Are you writing this style? Something completed? This is Chuck
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  Speaker 2: in the Morning. You people are beyond. Let's go, let's
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  Speaker 2: get the game off. Hey, good to be what do you?
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, great morning. It is a Tuesday and we
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  Speaker 2: are going to rock the chasma today. It is Chuck Powell.
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  Speaker 2: That is Ashley Ryan. You're at six a m.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's early. I know your plans they did
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  Speaker 1: not include me.
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  Speaker 2: But here we go four hours together where we will
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  Speaker 2: spoon and talk sports and feed each other dippin' dots.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio show.
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  Speaker 2: It is Chuck in the Mornings, and we get things
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  Speaker 2: back here in the studio here today. Good to see
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  Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan.
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  Speaker 4: Nice to see you as well. I mean, it does
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  Speaker 4: get tiring staring at a black box.
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  Speaker 1: It gets tiring staring at a field of grass.
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  Speaker 4: It really does like you you're out in nature and
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  Speaker 4: there's other people. No, there's not, but like you see people. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: because you see the guy that's mowing the lawn, and
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  Speaker 4: you see the coach that's walking around.
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  Speaker 2: You see something doing that's something to envy. Is the
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  Speaker 2: annoying ass people mowing the lawn in front of you
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  Speaker 2: see other humans. That's my only point. I don't Uh, yeah, well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad to be back. Maybe you'd like to be
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  Speaker 2: out there, maybe we should have switched, but I'm glad
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  Speaker 2: to be back in the studio. It's wonderful to be
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  Speaker 2: with you here on this Tuesday morning. And uh and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of going through this like transition. I've grown
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  Speaker 2: my beard out to the point where I kind of
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  Speaker 2: always admired that that guy that had the that just
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  Speaker 2: went for the really cool sculpted silver beard. Okay, and
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  Speaker 2: I let's face it, that's my only color option at
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  Speaker 2: this point and for the.
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  Speaker 1: Rest of my life. But I think it does look cool.
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  Speaker 2: And I've always like stopped short because it starts getting
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  Speaker 2: raggedy and then I like, just I'm gonna shave it off.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want it to look raggedy. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to look homeless.
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  Speaker 2: The idea behind this was to look cooler, and now
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  Speaker 2: now I just look like, you know, look like I'm
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  Speaker 2: asking for a sandwich outside the you know, the bus station. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And so I got it to the point where I
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  Speaker 2: think it's on the verge of being what I needed
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  Speaker 2: to be.
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  Speaker 1: But I gotta put like stuff in it.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, if anyone who has a sculpted beard, they put.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff in it, you got to put stuff in it, yep.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know what kind of stuff to put
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  Speaker 2: in it. And I also have to battle the fact
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  Speaker 2: that I live with a weirdo and like any kind
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  Speaker 2: of like aroma, synthetic aroma, or scent she's allergic to.
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  Speaker 2: So I got that facing me. So I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I'll just maybe there's a well
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  Speaker 2: in the backyard somewhere in Woodenville that like springs forth
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  Speaker 2: beard sculpting juice.
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  Speaker 4: Fairly certain that's exactly how it works, like a geyser.
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  Speaker 2: Like I just gotta, I gotta.
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  Speaker 1: I guess you know what, Now that I talked.
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  Speaker 2: Through this and I appreciate it, I'm gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: dig in every backyard in Woodenville.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, might as well start somewhere, start at start,
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  Speaker 4: find like a really nice fancy house and dig in
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  Speaker 4: their backyard first until.
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  Speaker 2: An organic natural gel geyser springs forth and someone's backyard
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  Speaker 2: that I can use to sculpt my new raggedy beard.
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  Speaker 4: That's the only way that any silver fox sculpts his beard.
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  Speaker 4: No one goes to the storm buys gel these days, right.
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  Speaker 2: Right right, yeah, you know, And I don't even it's
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  Speaker 2: interesting you bring up that term. I don't even.
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  Speaker 1: It's not even about looking foxy, it really isn't. I'm
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  Speaker 1: way past that. It's more of just like.
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  Speaker 2: Could I grow one of those beards that are kind
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  Speaker 2: of cool? And I don't know. So here I am,
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  Speaker 2: you know, kind of usually on the at the point
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  Speaker 2: where I shave it off, And that's kind of where
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  Speaker 2: I'm wearing the hat YouTube, because when you have the
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  Speaker 2: raggedy and then you don't have the when you're you know,
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  Speaker 2: when you're not perfectly shorn on top, the hat sort
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  Speaker 2: of balances it out.
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  Speaker 1: Otherwise. I love raggedy raggedy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh and we can't have that. I'm always love to call.
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  Speaker 1: You Andy, yeah, double raggedy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, good to have you with us, So welcome
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  Speaker 2: into the show. As we start four hours together here
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  Speaker 2: on this Tuesday, we will tell you what's on tap
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  Speaker 2: for our Tuesday show coming up here in a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: But as we begin a brand new program, well we
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  Speaker 2: still have the same manager. Our major League Baseball team
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  Speaker 2: has not made a change at the managerial position, not
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  Speaker 2: that I expected them to. I really didn't think they
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  Speaker 2: would use their day off to make that change, even
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  Speaker 2: though I've been calling for it for a number of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: And so we go to New York to take on
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  Speaker 2: the Yankees starting tonight. I'm sure they're already there, and
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  Speaker 2: then Houston in the biggest series of the season to
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  Speaker 2: this point, and then they close it out against Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 1: So this is the toughest.
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  Speaker 2: Road trip of the entire season, and certainly to date,
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  Speaker 2: the most important road trip of the entire season. And
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  Speaker 2: they haven't exactly played well on the road. So can
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  Speaker 2: they find a gel geyser somewhat.
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  Speaker 5: Fingers crossing it a jel geyser.
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  Speaker 2: Somewhere between there and New York? Will they dig in
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  Speaker 2: every backyard in the Bronx to try to find a
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  Speaker 2: el geiser because this team needs to gel and Dan
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  Speaker 2: Wilson's been unable to get that done.
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  Speaker 1: So here we go.
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  Speaker 2: We get ready for the stretch run facing a major deficit.
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  Speaker 2: Both the Rangers and the Astros won again last night,
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  Speaker 2: and Dan Wilson is the guy that's going to be
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  Speaker 2: charged with pulling this team together and getting them to
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  Speaker 2: play good baseball for the first time this season.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what we're up against starting tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Devish wrote a recent article, and Ryan does a
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  Speaker 2: great job about Dan Wilson and how they're going to
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  Speaker 2: stick it out through the end of the season and
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  Speaker 2: then maybe assess things at the end of the season,
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  Speaker 2: and some of the things that were pointed out about
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  Speaker 2: why they would keep him. There was some suggestion that
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  Speaker 2: they just can't do that to a legend, and that
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  Speaker 2: of course rubs a lot of Mariners fans the wrong way.
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  Speaker 2: Then why did you hire a legend in the first
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  Speaker 2: place if that was going to handcuff you.
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  Speaker 1: You do this all the time as an organization.
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  Speaker 2: Valid Another argument was, and this is one I've made
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  Speaker 2: on behalf of Dan Wilson, the players really like him.
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  Speaker 2: They really do.
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  Speaker 1: And I've said this all along. Players really like him.
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  Speaker 2: And this goes well beyond well before I should say
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  Speaker 2: he ever became the manager, when he was just an
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  Speaker 2: advisor and showed up at every spring training. There was
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  Speaker 2: a real kinship and it's one of the reasons that
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  Speaker 2: he got hired. And that you know that that steady
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  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson that irritates us because he never seems to
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  Speaker 2: get hot or tempered or anything of that nature. That
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  Speaker 2: works well apparently with this group of players. But from
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  Speaker 2: what standpoint, I would argue, it works well to remain likable.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean it works well to get the most
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  Speaker 2: out of the players. Correct. And I heard Logan say
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  Speaker 2: that he'd like to challenge anyone that thought Dan Wilson
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  Speaker 2: should be fired, and Logan as one of the nicest
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  Speaker 2: human beings you'll ever meet.
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  Speaker 1: So I would challenge Logan that.
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  Speaker 2: I am one of those guys that once your friend
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  Speaker 2: removed from his managerial position, because he should not be
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  Speaker 2: your friend, he is your boss. And I don't think
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  Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert needs that extra kick in the pants. As
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  Speaker 2: nice as he is, as waltery as he is, there
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  Speaker 2: is an engine that runs hot every time Logan Gilbert
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  Speaker 2: takes the mound, and that's what we're looking for. He
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  Speaker 2: doesn't need it. He doesn't need the extra kick in
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  Speaker 2: the pants some guys do. And if your entire reason
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  Speaker 2: for being kept in your job as everybody likes you,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that that's effective, not in this role,
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  Speaker 2: and certainly hasn't been this season, And so what you
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  Speaker 2: might view as a positive might very well be the
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  Speaker 2: thing that's dragged this team down. Where is the manager
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  Speaker 2: that isn't everybody's friend? I get it, he protects everybody
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  Speaker 2: in his postgame press conferences, and that's fine too, they're boring.
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  Speaker 1: Who cares?
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  Speaker 2: Who cares if we don't have good sound bites to
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  Speaker 2: play for you after every Mariner game? Who cares if
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  Speaker 2: the manager's not sharing how he really feels about certain
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  Speaker 2: players performances or efforts from the day before. Fans don't
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  Speaker 2: really need to know how Dan Wilson feels about that
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  Speaker 2: as long as it's happening behind the scenes, as long
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  Speaker 2: as behind the scenes not every game is Hey, you
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  Speaker 2: know what you guys, gave it your best. That was
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  Speaker 2: a tough one.
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  Speaker 5: Oh if he walks into the locker room, another tough
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  Speaker 5: one tonight, guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get him tomorrow. Hey, wait to fight till
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  Speaker 2: the end? Yeah, as long as that's and I have
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  Speaker 2: no idea, And frankly, even the guys that cover the
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  Speaker 2: beat don't really know exactly how frustration anger is community
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  Speaker 2: catered to the players on the roster. But I'll say
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  Speaker 2: I will say that spoke volumes to me. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Logan's sitting there trying to defend his manager. We'd have
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  Speaker 2: a real problem if that happened. He's trying to defend
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  Speaker 2: his manager, and sounds like a lot of guys are
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  Speaker 2: on that front. But the words you used don't suggest
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  Speaker 2: to me that you have the right relationship. You have
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  Speaker 2: a good relationship that that much is clear, and that
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  Speaker 2: can go a long way until your being until you're
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  Speaker 2: taking it for granted, I don't think that's the right
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  Speaker 2: relationship between a manager and a group of players. Is
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  Speaker 2: that everybody has your back because he never comes down
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  Speaker 2: hard on you.
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  Speaker 4: Well yeah, and talking about how he would come to
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  Speaker 4: help out before he got the managerial job and they
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  Speaker 4: all loved him. Well, that's that's perfect for that, m
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  Speaker 4: that's where you want him. Yes, yeah, ah, look, guys,
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  Speaker 4: Dan's here. This is so great. Oh hey buddy, how
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  Speaker 4: you been missed?
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  Speaker 2: You Like? That's great? Was just driving me up a wall, Dan,
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  Speaker 2: and then Dan talks you down from the lest exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And he's your pal, your friend, your confident.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can go to him and say like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: when you played and you had this, that's a great thing.
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  Speaker 4: But as far as the manager goes, I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: just keep thinking about Logan saying, you know, I I'd
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  Speaker 4: be really mad or I'd have a you know, I'd
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  Speaker 4: have a problem with anyone that wanted him to lose
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  Speaker 4: his job.
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  Speaker 1: Quote he's a really good guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's what he said. Yes, and he is a
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  Speaker 2: really good guy. No one's disputing the there is. But
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  Speaker 2: my my thing that I keep thinking over and over and.
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  Speaker 1: Over marry my aunt.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, who wouldn't.
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  Speaker 5: If well, his wife might not.
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  Speaker 4: But my my question is like I lost my I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 4: you're good.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, it was just.
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  Speaker 5: I don't remember what I was gonna say.
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  Speaker 1: I threw you off.
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  Speaker 2: It was really fine.
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  Speaker 5: I just was thinking, like, ill come, it'll.
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  Speaker 2: Come back, all right. Well I got plenty to say,
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  Speaker 2: so you think of it, you come back around. But yes,
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  Speaker 2: and then there's the other aspect, and there is something too,
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  Speaker 2: like for example, I'll give you an example, Philadelphia Phillies
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  Speaker 2: thought Rob Thompson was a really good guy, and Rob
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  Speaker 2: Thompson at one point saved the Philadelphia Phillies earlier in
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  Speaker 2: their franchise history. For whatever reason, Joe Girardi was rubbing
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  Speaker 2: the players the wrong way, and so they went with
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  Speaker 2: Rob Thompson, who everybody liked, and that change stimulated something
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  Speaker 2: in them. I think Dan taking over for Scott, who
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  Speaker 2: was not really liked in the locker room by a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the guys. He had his guys, but there
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of guys that weren't his guys. But
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  Speaker 2: just that simple change over shook something up. It's not
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  Speaker 2: that Dan came in and pressed all the right buttons
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  Speaker 2: x'es and o's. It's not that Dan came in and
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  Speaker 2: had a secret recipe for winning. No, it was a change.
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  Speaker 2: It altered things. It shook people up. We got someone
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  Speaker 2: fired for how bad we were playing, and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of us on us and he's had our back a lot,
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  Speaker 2: because Scott Servis had their back a lot.
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  Speaker 1: And now we have to.
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  Speaker 2: Confront the fact that somebody got fired because we weren't
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  Speaker 2: playing well enough. And lo and behold a different voice,
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  Speaker 2: a little shake up. They almost rallied and made it
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  Speaker 2: to the playoffs. And frankly, I think back to that
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  Speaker 2: year and we were talking about maybe Scott Servis should
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  Speaker 2: be let go prior to that, And had he been
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  Speaker 2: let go prior to August twenty second and you missed
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  Speaker 2: by one game, maybe you do make the playoffs. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: that new voice would have kicked this team into higher gear.
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  Speaker 2: Earlier in the year. Well, the Philadelphia Affilies did that
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  Speaker 2: same thing and it worked like a charm with Rob
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  Speaker 2: Thompson until this year when it wasn't working and they
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  Speaker 2: needed a new voice.
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  Speaker 1: And Don Mattingly.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't have a sterling history as one of the great
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  Speaker 2: managers of all time, one of the great first basemen
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  Speaker 2: of all time, but not one of the great managers
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  Speaker 2: of all time, but he certainly is carries respect in
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  Speaker 2: the sport. So Don Mattingly takes over and what happens.
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  Speaker 2: They immediately started winning. And for those that argue Dan
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  Speaker 2: Wilson's a puppet and he has to use analytics, and
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  Speaker 2: if he didn't have to use analytics so much, he
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  Speaker 2: could manage the game without consequence. He could just do
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  Speaker 2: what he wants to do. As an old school guy.
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  Speaker 2: The Boston Red Sox and the Philadelphia Fellies fired their managers,
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  Speaker 2: same front office, same players, and same use of analytics.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't change their use of analytics. And I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: tell you this, there's no way that if you fired
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  Speaker 2: Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollander, that you're not gonna hire
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  Speaker 2: people who are really heavy into analytics.
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  Speaker 1: Give it up, give.
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  Speaker 2: Up the ghost. That's not gonna happen. And it's not
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  Speaker 2: what's keeping Dan Wilson from being a good manager. You
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  Speaker 2: have to use the numbers in today's game. The Red
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  Speaker 2: Sox kept using the numbers in this kept using those
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  Speaker 2: same numbers. They turned their season around because there was
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  Speaker 2: a different voice. And I don't I'm not sitting you're
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  Speaker 2: telling you that it's one hundred percent fool proof that's
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  Speaker 2: going to happen. But I am giving you two examples
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  Speaker 2: of why it did turn around, two examples of managers
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  Speaker 2: that did turn things around. And I'm not even sure
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  Speaker 2: Don Mattingley's a better manager than Rob Thompson. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sure that Tracy in Boston's a better manager than Alex Cora.
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  Speaker 1: But it shook them up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it gave.
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  Speaker 1: Them a different voice and they didn't change anything else.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't change personnel, they didn't change the analytics team
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  Speaker 2: that they use. They just gave them a different voice.
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  Speaker 2: And there are two examples of teams with a lot
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  Speaker 2: of talent who had a belief that they were going
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  Speaker 2: to make the playoffs at the beginning of the year,
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  Speaker 2: just like we did. So they had the talent, they
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  Speaker 2: had the roster, and because they made that managerial decision.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why it occurs. It shouldn't feel, it
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't be this way, but it happens. It happens quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit if you have a team with a playoff
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  Speaker 2: talent roster. And I think if we would have made
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  Speaker 2: this decision when I said too coming out of the
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  Speaker 2: All Star Break, that we would be looking at a
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  Speaker 2: different record and a different situation heading to Yankee Stadium tonight. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And if if he is their best friend or their
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  Speaker 4: great friend, or the good guy and all of these things,
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  Speaker 4: you should want him to stay as your manager. And
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  Speaker 4: you're hearing all the stuff that people are saying, and
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  Speaker 4: you're knowing you're underperforming, and you're knowing that if you
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  Speaker 4: don't perform.
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  Speaker 2: He'd be the one to go.
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  Speaker 4: They're not going to fire the players, right, Yeah, So
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  Speaker 4: you'd think if I would think, Okay, I really don't
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  Speaker 4: want them to fire him, but I got to show
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  Speaker 4: him how I got to show this organization how much
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  Speaker 4: we want Dan here.
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  Speaker 2: We've got to play better. But you are not.
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  Speaker 4: And that is a result of a lot of things,
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  Speaker 4: but one of them being your manager.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just I mean, I do think, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You could you You're right, they could. They could fire
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  Speaker 4: him and he could go great. They could fire him
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  Speaker 4: and it could go poorly. You don't know, but I
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  Speaker 4: gotta try to sell it something. Yeah, exactly, you're making
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  Speaker 4: an effort in saying like, okay, guys, this isn't working.
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  Speaker 2: Something's got to change.
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  Speaker 1: It's no longer early. That is such music to people saying, Oh, they're.
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  Speaker 2: So happy you finally said it. I mean, there's time
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  Speaker 2: to come back from this deficit. So there is time
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  Speaker 2: to come back from the deficit. But we have a
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: large enough sample size that this team's just not responding
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: to whatever leadership they're being given. And I just happen
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: to believe, and no one's going to talk me out
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: of it, that this team has the talent to be
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: a playoff team. And challenge for the World Series, but
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: we have not seen it perform well all season long.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Mostly the same team from a year ago that made
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: the American League Championship roster, so we also know that
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: they can act in a cohesive way as well. But
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: this season we have seen no ability to repeat good performances,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: and we have seen no ability to dig out of
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: slumps from the offense. It's been bad from the beginning
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: of the year till now. Yeah, and this organization is
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: deciding we're going to ride with the horses that brought
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: us here.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: And that's there's two ways of looking at that.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: They are the horses you've rode all year along, but
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: they are also the horses that have led you to
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: this trough of murky, crappy water that we are now
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: drinking from with the flies buzzy, yeah, flies buzzing around.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I think they should have made the change weeks ago.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I still think that they should have made the change yesterday.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Like I said, that change from Service to Wilson happened
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: on the twenty second of August.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: We're still eleven day shy of that.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I still think there's time to make this change and
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: save this season. And I think they are a desperate
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: organization that really put a lot and this team being
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: the team that they've been waiting for for a decade
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: in the Depoto era to finally break this World Series
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: drought here in Seattle. And look at them, seven games
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: under five hundred, and you want to stick with the
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: same horses. I don't quite get it.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: I hope it works. I guess that's the plan. Is
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: just cross your fingers and hope it works.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I guess. I sure hope having my good buddy Dan
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: around is just the thing. As long as we're patient,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: friendship wins. I sure hope that somewhere there's somebody that's
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: doing lectures on inspiring lectures somewhere Tony Robbins or somebody
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: that has changed his message to stick with friendship.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Good guys always win.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: But I don't believe it. I don't buy it, not
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: for a second. This team's grossly underperformed this year, and
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: somebody's got to be held responsible for it, and to me,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: it starts with the manager, and it's not all his fault,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: but somebody is in charge of getting good players to
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: play good baseball and we haven't seen it happen all
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: season long. All right, we'll talk more about a little
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: later on in the show. Let's find out what's on
• 20:01
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• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I'm Mariners at Yankees tonight, first pitch, four oh five.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: There is something special.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Though, there really is, whether you're struggling or not about
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: playing and some of the great cathedrals in this sport
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: against some of the great organizations, you know, classic or
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: blue blood programs. There's just a little extra special watching
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: games when your favorite teams at Yankee Stadium or at
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Wrigley Field or at Fenway Park.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: And we at least have that to.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Look forward to. Right, We've got that Brian wu will
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: get the start for us. Great planning put him on
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: the road against a lefty dominating lineup where he has
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: a seven ERA on the road this year, and they'll
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: start a left hander Ryan Weathers, And I don't think
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: that's by accident. Terrek Scruball made his Dodger home debut
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: last night. Did not pitch all that well, only made
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: it five innings and barely did. Gave up three runs
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: and did not get the win, but the Dodgers did
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: rally for the victory. Paul Sewald was released by the
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Arizona Diamondbacks yesterday. And I'm going to beat you to
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: your question. Yes, sign him. Yeah, And I know he's
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: had a bad year, but Pete Woodworth is his whisperer,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: so let's he saved.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: His career once before.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Again. Desperate, We're desperate at this point. Let's find a
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: veteran reliever that knows how to get people out. I'm
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: all about it. Seahawks training camp game week this week.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: They'll take on the Dallas Cowboys on Saturday. The preseason
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: officially begins this Thursday, with several games being played in
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: the National Football League. Terry and Arnold Jedarian Price also
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: continue to be big stories. Will the Seahawks sign Arnold
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: We're going to talk more about that at six thirty.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Jedarian Price doesn't look like he's gonna play this Saturday,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: and that's disappointing. And of course we're gonna find out
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: all sorts of gnitty gritty information tonight about the team,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: because Hard Knocks Episode two will air this evening. Husky's
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Camp continues in the Boweing Classic is this weekend. More
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: on both of those things later on in the show,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: but coming up next, let's talk to some Seahawks football.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Our big topic yesterday was Terry and Arnold. Will the
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: champs ignore red flags and sign the troubled Detroit corner?
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: We'll discuss at next Sports Radio ninety three point three
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: KJRFM hight seven o'clock hour. Welcome in. It is Chuck Powell,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan. We are in studio today. Great to have
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: you with us here on this Tuesday game week for
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks. More on that in a moment with
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider, who will and it says
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: seven oh five, And I do want to make sure
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: that I'm clear about our new segment at eight o'clock
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: which we're introducing today, which we wanted to call Mirror Mirror,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: but I guess Disney thinks we should call.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: It Magic mixors and movies being different.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: It's Resney, It's Disney. How he's having to be difficult.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, we're going to make it look like our's Magic Kingdom.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Anyway, Magic Mirror, I do want if I wasn't clear,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I want a reason to keep Dan Wilson. Okay, that's
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: what you're coming up with today. Tell me, tell me
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: the reason to keep Dan Wilson going forward, and we'll
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: cover that in Magic Mirror coming up at eight o'clock.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: You can send a text, you can send us a
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: message on the old YouTube, which I'm still getting used to.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: And then we also have the talkback feature, which we
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: love to showcase. Hell might even take some calls at
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: eight o'clock. Who knows. But first ever, Magic Mirror is
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: coming your way. I just lived down all of the
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: comparisons to Magic Mic just a couple of days ago,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: did you No, Yeah, now they're going to start all
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: over again.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: Man, I'm sorry, that's a rough time for you.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: We can't all have the body of Channing Tatum, I know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: and the face of a silver Fox.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: They just shout down the street, is that Magic Mike.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, No, I'm just Chuck Powell, guys, just
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: an overweight old man, Just Chuck Powell. All right, let's
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: get to the headlines for you before we bring Greg
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: on and he exposes me for not being compared to
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Magic Mike because.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: He's all about the truth.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: That guy Mariners at Yankees tonight at four oh five,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: first pitch, it will be Brian woo versus Ryan weathers.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: It's as if they planned it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: I don't think they didn't. I don't think they planned
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: against it.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: We'll say that, Yeah, this wasn't supposed to be this way,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: But here we go on the most important nine game
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: stretch of the entire season against some of the best
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: competition that we're going to face, including the Houston Astros.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: We absolutely have to win.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they road trip's going to start on the
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: road and a haven for left handed hitters and a
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: lineup that has seven lefties actually eight when you count
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: their one switch hitter, and we're throwing our worst road
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: starter to start the most important nine game streak of
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: the entire year. Andy gets to play twice on the road. Yeah,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: which is great.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh, not exactly ideal.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: They'll be throwing Ryan Weather's a left hander, struggled with
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: those He'll be pitching tonight for the New York Yankees.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Paul Seawald was released by the Arizona Diamondbacks yesterday, and
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: before you ask, yes, we should get him. And I
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: don't know if he's got anything left, but Paul Seawald
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: seven years ago didn't think he had anything left. And
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: the guy that got him out of it, the guy
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: that raised him up, he Woodworth, who we still have.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: So yes, let's go get Paul Seawold and Adam to
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: this group.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Seahawks training camp.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: We obviously are not out there today, but they are
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: preparing for game week. This Saturday, they'll take on the
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. Terry and Arnold still remains an option, but
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: he is. They didn't leave let him leave the building,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: unlike Mike McDonald, who they didn't let leave the building.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: He has left the building. He is talking with other teams.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: The New Orleans Saints have We're mentioned prominently yesterday, but
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks certainly kicking the tires on Terry and Arnold,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: who right now could be facing prison. You know, depends
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: on how that story unfolds. Jadarian Price, he is hurt,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: doesn't look like he's gonna play in the preseason opener.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: We'll ask Greg more about that coming up here in
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Preseason officially opens on Thursday, though in
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: the National Football League, even though the Seahawks do not
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: play until Saturday, and do not miss the Boeing Classic
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• 27:01
  Speaker 2: They started twenty dollars and kids get in free. All right,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: let's talk to Greg.
• 27:06
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• 27:29
  Speaker 2: From Martin, Greg, Good morning, what is the practice schedule today?
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: We're not out there, but they're still practicing today.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: Yes, yes, this afternoon. Okay, close practice to fans. No
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: fans there, but you know the beat writers will be
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: out there.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: I don't know why they kept the radios out there, man,
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: because I'm trying to do two jobs at once. I'll
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: actually be broadcasting from there again.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, you will be. You know there there is
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: an element and I understand it that they people just
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: get sick of me, Greg, So that could be part
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, that's it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: It's not you nailed you. You're not alone.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's talk about Jadarian Price some. I mean,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: at this stage, any chance he's gonna debut Saturday, I can't.
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: Imagine, Chuck, you miss his third straight practice yesterday, upper
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: leg soreness, this kind of tongue in cheek, Mike McDonald said, Saturday.
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: Just there's no reason in August the fifteenth to push
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: something like that and make it a month long thing
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: instead of a couple of days or so. But we'll
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: see how if he comes back to practice at all
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: the next couple of days. They I looked down at
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: one point during practice yesterday at my roster and looked
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: up at the running backs, and it's saying, it's George Ilani,
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: Emmanuel Wilson, and a bunch of guys that have never
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: played NFL game, including guys they just signed a fullback
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: they just signed last week, a two hundred and thirty
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: five pounds running back they just signed last week, TJ Harden.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: There it's going to be a pote pirie of guys
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: during the preseason games that haven't played NFL before Is.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: There maybe a dark horse in all of this? I mean,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: if ever there was a camp for somebody buried on
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: the depth chart to sort of turn heads, I would
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: think this is it at the running back position here
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: in Seattle. Is there a dark horse making a move
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: at all?
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: Well, it was Jacarti Wright and then he injured his
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: lower look taking ankle or lower leg last week and
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: hasn't practiced since. He's missed the last four or five practices.
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: Lelis Jones, who was on the practice squad last year,
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: was in fact elevated for the Super Bowl, was on
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: the field in uniform, didn't play. He's still here. They
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: converted him to wide receiver to begin camp, but then
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: when the injuries pile running back, they put in back
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: at running back. He's been getting time a little bit
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: with the ones. They're so thin. We mentioned Emmanuel Wilson
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: yesterday from green Bay to seven yard back from green
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: Bay that's signed a one year deal. He's moved up
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: in prominence with price out. He's getting time with the ones.
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: McDonald says he likes how he's the physicality back that
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: they really don't have. Otherwise they signed this t J.
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: Harden who's two hundred and thirty five pounds that we've
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: yet to see him do too much because he just
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: got here. But Wilson has been the ben A benefactor
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: and he's now become a short yardage back, powerback option
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: that probably they weren't thinking about when they were going
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: through Jenarian Price and George Howani as their options at back.
• 30:42
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• 30:54
  Speaker 2: most every day here at seven h five during the
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: football season and certainly something to talk about every day.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Terry and Arnold seems to be the juicy topic right
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: now surrounding the organization. Mike McDonald addressed it yesterday. What
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: did we hear from the head coach?
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: I was surprised Chuck how expansive he was when I
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: asked him. I thought he'd say, we look at everything,
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: we're in on everything, we'll see, but he did. He
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: said that we had a tryout, which is more than
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: was originally reported. They The original port was that he
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: had a second visit with the Seahawks. Well, in fact,
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: they had him on the field working out, and McDonald
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: said it was a really good tryout. He said that
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: I enjoyed meeting him, getting to know him a little bit,
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: called him by name Terry On referenced cent Terrion. There
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: is some familiarity there, he mentioned, and was asked about
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: Carl Scott. We talked yesterday, the Seahawks defensive back. I
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: think we talked about that recruited him. Arnold to Alabama
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: out of high school in Tallahassee, Florida in twenty nineteen
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: and twenty the last years that Scott was at Alabama.
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: Then he left, Scott did to be the Minnesota Vikings
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: defensive backs coach, and so he never coached Arnold at
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: Alabama into becoming a first round draft pick. But he
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: knows and he has been in his living room with
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: his family and in Tallahassee, so he knows him better
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: than anybody else in Seahawks do, and they've talked to
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: him as well. MacDonald also said that those they've talked
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: to that are in Arnold's corner have given the Seahawks
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: a lot of information, and those are people that the
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: Seahawks really trust. So this summation of all of this
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: is there. Like we said yesterday, they're trying to be
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: the first in line if Arnold's exonerated from all of this,
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: and that's a big if he's got an arraignment hearing
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: this week in Tampa where he wo enter a plea
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: most likely not guilty, so he can remain free and
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: do these shopping visits to teams. There's some conflicting reports
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: whether the visit with the Saints you mentioned was yesterday
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: or today or what have you, but it's supposed to
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: be this week. Houston, Texans, New York Jets have inquired,
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: according to his agent, Nicole Lynn, and she's trying to
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: get a market for him. And it's a really odd
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: situation to try to drum up a market for a
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: guy who could be facing life in prison. I asked
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: MacDonald if the Seahawks in their investigation of Arnold's case
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: have gotten any read on whether there is a possibility
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: that he would be able to play the entire season
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: if everything went his way in this, and he said,
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: we're still working through that. We don't know that for sure,
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: but They're trying to be in the front of the line,
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: be the team that's met with him the most, that
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: he likes the most in case he gets exonerated, and
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: if he does, I would think Chuck that he's not
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: going to command much more than maybe a one year
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: near minimum salary contract. He's still only twenty three years old,
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: which is why, as we said yesterday, the football always wins.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: We'll see what happens with his case, but the Seahawks
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: want to be there.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Well, that was gonna be my next question.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Is this just a case of talent always wins or
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: can we just cling to the idea that maybe this
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: story and they've already learned this is not nearly as
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: bad as it reads.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: Well, that's the inference from McDonald. He said that they
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: have heard Arnold's side of the story. The inference man,
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: the fact that we're still interested means we like what
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: we hear from that side of the story. And as
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: we said, that makes the Seahawks. It has to make
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: the Seahawks think he's going to be exonerated, or else
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: they wouldn't be going this far down the path. It's
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: one thing to kick the tires and have been in
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: for a free agent visit. It's another to have him
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: in again and have him in a tryout. I mean,
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: let's say, it's not very convenient for anybody to fly
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: out to Seattle unless it's something that's decently possible. And
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: now he's been here twice. So we asked him about
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: the culture and what McDonald has created and is the
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: fear of protecting that in this case, and he said,
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: we're still working through that. So they just want to
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: what their lot in. They want to make sure that
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: they're at the front of the line if he gets exonerated,
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: because then anyone can sign him, of course, and then
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: it would be a frenzy.
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: And the Seas want to say he remember us our
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: Seahawks Ininsida, Greg Belt joining us here on this Tuesday
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: morning talking some Seahwks football as we do most every
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: day during the football season here on the morning show.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the secondary. I mean, Terry and Arnold
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: if added could obviously take somebody's roster spot. And I'm
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: wondering how all this is going to shake out. I mean,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: you and I talked about AJ Finley, you wrote about
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: him over the weekend. I heard you do a segment
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: on him yesterday with Jess So obviously he's creating some buzzd.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Anthony Bell was creating buzz I watched Julian Neil do
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: a workout in front of me yesterday. That is one
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: good looking athlete, and you know he's going to find
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: a spot considering the high draft pick they picked used
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: to pick him. You got Bud Clark there as well.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would imagine that this thing's getting overcrowded,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: that that secondary room where who might it squeeze out.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: When this process comes to an end.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: Well, Noah had beenogamy the eighth years veteran corner was
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: playing nickel first team nicol yesterday. Bud Clark has taken
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: some of the Anthony Bell's reps as the big nickel
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: Delon Warry type hybrid in the first team defense. In
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: the last week or so, Bell's actually lost some ground,
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: even though he had a return for interception for a
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: touchdown off of Jalen Milroe yesterday and a big to
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: do and ran the link to the field and defense
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: and celebrate with him all that neim I preach. It
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: is someone that they started with as the fifth cornerback
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: to begin training camp. He looked like the heir to
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: Wreak Woolan in the alternating of three starters and two
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: spots between Woolan, Job and Witherspoon last year, well hiss.
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: Pritchett was in that starter camp, but now Monogamy he's
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: been doing that more Pritchet less and the fact that
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: they are entertaining the possibility of adding Terry On Arnold
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: tells me they're not happy with Pritchett. They didn't say that.
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: McDonald said he loves that, and he loves Pritchet. He
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: loves the competition there. But they're always shopping. They always
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: want to be shopping, and if they're trying to they
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: must not be set, and they aren't because they have
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: a veteran challenging Pritchett as well. In Monogamy, McDonald says
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: he really trusts and loves the cornerbacks that he has.
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: But they're still shopping, which tells me there's still ways
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: to go there. We'll see if Pritchett ends up getting
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: the job. If nothing happens, or if they don't sign Arnold,
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: that's probably where they would land. But ignongmy I think,
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: is going to make the team for special teams and
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: the veteran presence they need back there.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: This is something that I'm sure you're going to cover
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: later in the week, so I'm probably caught catching you
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: off guard with it a little bit. But just from
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: a person that's covered football for a long time and
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: have seen offensive coordinators get introduced, Brian Flurs never called
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: plays before. He's gonna get his opportunity this Saturday. And
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: yet he's gonna be up against You can only call
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: a certain small percentage of the playbook. He's not gonna
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: want to expose too much. So how how will do
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: you think that will work? How much or how much
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: is Mike gonna let Brian Flurry? Uh, you know, not
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: exposed too much of the playbook, but also let him
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: start getting used to calling plays before the games actually count.
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: Not much, And I think I mean the practices. It's
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: not in a game obviously, but they use the walkie talkies.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: It goes into the quarterbacks ear and ear piece, micro
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: or speaker, so he's doing the mechanics of the play
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: calling now. There is a difference. If he we don't
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: know this yet. I haven't asked him if he's going
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: to be up in the press boxer on the sidelines,
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: but if he's in the press box, that's a different deal.
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: Kobiak was on the field. A lot of coordinators these
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: days want to be on the field because they want
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: to be able to reach out of touch and talk
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: to them face to face with their quarterbacks, and the
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: emotions of in the field of the game is so
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: much different down there. So we'll determine that. We'll start
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: determining that on Saturday to see where he is Flurry is.
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: But other than those mechanics, I don't know that it's
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: going to be two different But you're right a good
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: point about the play calling. They're not going to show anything.
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: They're not going to show the three type. If I
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: saw four tight ends on the field yesterday, three of
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: them split out wide, and I mean Eric Salbert, a
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: tenth year career special teams guy, was split out wide
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: as a fliker. They're going to have a lot of
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: tight end motion. You're going to see much of that
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: at all in the preseason. I wouldn't think we'll see.
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: It's also a good point to say if Fluri's never
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: done this before, the only time he's been a coordinator
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: at any level was twenty years ago at Sacred Heart
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: University in Connecticut, and that was on defense. So they
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: did a little bit of a dice roll here to
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: take a Super Bowl winning offense and hand it over
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: to someone who's never done this before. This may take
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: a few weeks into the season for him to get comfortable.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: All right, What else?
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: What else we got in that notebook that we want
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: to share that I haven't asked well?
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: Jackson sventhn jigmit every day is just I mean yesterday
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: he had a one handed catch by spinning around. He
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: had a sixty fifty seven yard touchdown when he went
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: on an outside release on Devin Witherspoon and stayed away
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: from the jam and just used his body leveraged to
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: stay outside a perfect throw from Sam Donald. He had
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: another really savvy play in the middle of his zone
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: coveries where instead of just taking his route where it
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: looked like he was intended to go, he just stopped
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: between the safety and the corner back and it was
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: an easy twenty five yard catch because he just found
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: the spot and Darnald knew he was going to do
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: it instead of continuing his break. Just the savviness, the
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: body control. He looks like He's so different assertiveness wise
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: in this offense compared to this time last year when
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: they had just traded DK Metcalf, So that impressiveness continues.
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: Jake Bobo came back to practice. You mentioned Julian Neal
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: coming back to practice yesterday, the first time they've practiced
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: in two weeks. They only did individual drills. They haven't
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: yet gotten back to full go eleven on eleven. Those
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: are two guys they probably would play but may not
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: play because of the injury situation Saturday night. And then
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: the other thing to remember about this preseason game Saturday,
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: it is going to be non starters. It's going to
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: be the reserves and guys trying to make the roster spots.
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: The only real time, and so far in the three
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: years i've covered Mike McDonald, the only real time the
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: starters do anything of substance during the preseason as that
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: joint practice. That's why McDonald has it. And the joint practice,
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: all of a sudden is next week, next Friday, about
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: ten days from now in Nashville. That'll be when the
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: good ones versus ones, and that probably will be the
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: only time the starters do much this preseason.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: All right, what do you got planned for the show.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Don't take magic Mirror. It's already been taken.
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: Uh so No, really?
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I got a brand new I got a
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: brand new feature. Sorry about it. Greg, Well, if I
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: hear you're going to do a magic mirror segment, I'm
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: going to beat you to the punch.
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: As soon as you said magic mirror, I thought of
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: Justin Timberlake and the old Saturday in the Life skit.
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: Those of you may have known what I'm talking about,
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: the mirror.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: I think that was called the Crank in the Box.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I think is what that segment was called.
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: You remember what I'm talking about.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: That was a great Christmas gift.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: A J.
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: Finley. I actually sat down with him after practice yesterday
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: and we talked a lot about not just his rehabilitation
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: twelve months ago, blown out his knee. He's a brand
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: new father. He had maybe two months ago. He married
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: his college sweetheart. He has a really good story about
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: how he met his college sweetheart at the University of Mississippi.
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: And here from him at eleven o'clock. Oh good, We'll
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: talk about this Terry on our old case. Because it
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: is not a Mike McDonald interest, it is counter to
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: what we've come to know in the culture, right I agree?
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: All right, Greg, thank you. We'll listen at ten o'clock, sir,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: all right, thanks all right, Greg Bell our Seahawks insider
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: joining us thanks to the Emerald. Queen Casino right here
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: on Chuck in the morning, so she'll be with us
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: all fall. All right, coming up next on our show,
• 43:31
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• 43:34
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• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Chuck and Ashley with you coming up at eight o'clock.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: By the way, brand new feature.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, we talked to our people and they were
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: all about calling it Mirror Mirror. We had t shirts
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: printed up, we got a most major motion picture that's
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: getting ready to come out, and then we had to
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: change into the last second to Magic Mirror because of Disney.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: But a brand new segment I'm introducing here at eight o'clock.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: We'll see how it goes. But the idea about it
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: is that I think I have been a pretty good
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: spokesman for those that want Dan Wilson out as a manager,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: and so I want to hear from those that want
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: to give me reasons for why he should stay that's
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: what I'm looking for. I want to be the fairest
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: of them all. Don't you see magic Mirror on the wall.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: So at eight o'clock, I'm asking for your texts, your
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: YouTube responses, your talkbacks at ninety three three khr dot com. Hell,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I might even put a phone call
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: or two in there into the conversation as well. We
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: debut Magic Mirror coming up at eight o'clock. And again,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for a concise one thing. I don't want
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: a mountain of things. I want us to go one
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: step at a time with this one thing. Give me
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: one reason why the anti Dan Wilson people are wrong
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: on this and why he should stay. So that's what
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I want to hear at eight o'clock.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: I look forward to seeing if people can come up
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: with reasons.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, okay, I'm sure we've got some. Right, We've
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: got some okay, good, good, good good.
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: And there, look, there's an argument there. There's certainly an
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: argument there. I think there's an absolute argument there. But
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: I just I want to go through it point by point.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: In the meantime, understand that sometimes I get a little grumpy,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: and I understand Ashley. Why I do I think something
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: changed in COVID. I really do something changed about me.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's necessarily just age, but I think
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: we do tend to get grumpy as we get older,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: that's for sure. But now I know I'm not the
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: only one. I am convinced people are just grumpier just
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: across the board. I really am. I'm going to give
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: you a great example because I came to work today
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: and I wasn't in a terribly foul mood. I was
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: excited about being back in the studio. And there have
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: been times where it doesn't matter what somebody does on
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: the road, I'm gonna be angry with them. I mean,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: they could be just driving perfectly reasonably in the right
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: appropriate lane, but if it's stopping me from getting where
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: I want to go, I'm angry. That's just grumpy right there.
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: Like the semi truck I was behind today.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: You're doing your job.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: I understand you're supposed to be slower, but why do
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: I have to go twenty two miles an hour behind you?
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: So I show up to work actually in a good mood,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing Ashley, looking forward to doing the
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: show in the studio. We got a lot of good topics.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: I'm introducing magic mirror today. We got all this stuff
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: going on, and I get in the elevator with someone
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: I've never before. And he's a younger man, so he
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: didn't even have this excuse to use in his back
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: pocket of being older. And he was number one irritated
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: that I was there.
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: Oh how dare you be in an elevator number two?
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: He pressed the button and it was like, that's my elevator.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: He kind of carried that, and then he literally made
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: a noise and shook his head when he saw that
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I pressed four because he wanted to go to two,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: not that that was going to stop him from where
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: he was going. He stopped first, but he was annoyed
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: that I had pressed the button. And I wasn't even
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: angry with this younger man. He wasn't a young man,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: but he was younger than I was. I wasn't even angry.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: You know why. I just chalked it up to, man,
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: it's not just me. This is actually a good moment
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: for me. I thought I was just becoming grumpier. I
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: think the whole world has become grumpier because there is
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: no reason why this person should be this angry over
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: those little trifling things, and yet he is, and he
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: just made my day. Grumpy, younger man, it's not just
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: a you problems me, A lot of people not me.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I think everybody's grumpier these days, I.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Would agree, And I think it's because everything's more expensive,
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: and everybody's in more of a hurry, and.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, all these things.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: It's just like you just end up being more irritated
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: in life than you were.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: It sounds like time is precious, but everyone's.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: In a hurry, and then you're just you know, go go, go, go,
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: going all the time, and we don't have as much
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: time anymore to just sit and smell the roses.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: This guy seemed to I mean his behavior, and I
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: don't think I was reading into it because I was
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: in a perfectly good mood.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I was not in a foul mood.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: He was in a foul mood, but his behavior was
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: suggesting like it is so early, I'm tired. Why am
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: I in here? Why is there another human being awake?
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah right now? Why on earth is he riding my elevator?
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: And why is he making me feel like I'm stopping
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: him from getting to his floor on time.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: Af that guy, Yeah, he shouldn't push his floor till
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: after I get out.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Right, don't make me feel like I'm delaying you.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I'm angry.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I I know like I already had a
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: little bit of an edge to me, as you might
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: have told over the years. Already had a little edge
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: But I know that like COVID made me grumpier because
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: COVID made me like view the world through the eyes
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: of a sick person. I live with someone who's not
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: altogether well in a lot of different ways, but she's
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: not well. So I had to like people that now
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: sneeze without covering their mouth or cough without that now
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: bothers me where I don't think that it did before.
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: I think that bothers a lot more people than it
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: used to.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: COVID. Yeah, I think COVID did that to us. So
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: that's just one example. Driving, I don't know. I think
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be angry at everybody on the road
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: except myself, and I'm probably making a lot of mistakes
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: that are making others angry. I think I'm perfect as
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: a driver, but I don't know. I can't get rid
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: of that grumpy bug. But man, when you get done
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: driving and then you get into work and you got
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: a guy that got angry with you three times on
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: an elevator that you don't even know, it dawns on you.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: It's not just me.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, everybody is a grumpy son.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: Of a You know, what, do you ever do the
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: thing where like, you leave work and you go to
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: the grocery store or you go to get something and
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: the place is crowded, and you're like, do these.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: People not have to work?
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: Why are you all here? Like I do I have
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: weird hours?
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: How is it that you all have weird hours? A
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: thousand percent get jobs? And the amount of times that
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: I get grumpy and I don't say anything, I just
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: want you know, I don't say anything, and I certainly
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: don't do anything. Yeah, But the amount of times I
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: get frustrated with little old women, you know, how many
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: times that I have to like your mom is probably
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: frustrating somebody else right now in a store somewhere or
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: on the road somewhere. But the amount of times in
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: a grocery store that I am angry at a sweet
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: little old woman for being on the wrong side of
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: the aisle or in front of the peanuts or whatever
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: the case might be, and having no clue anyone else
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: is there.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I really got to check myself. I have to walk away, like.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Would you stop getting angry at little old women? And
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: then thirteen seconds later I'll be angry with another little old.
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: Woman they got I mean, you know what they had
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: it coming.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Damn you with all your sweetness to your grandchildren.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: Life away from my peanuts.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the golden age, my sweet delayed peanut wanting ass.
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: Yes, you're not your fault.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Ah, I know I am. But here's the thing. This
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: is what I learned this morning, and it made this
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: grumpy man very happy. You're all grumpier. Yeah, I think
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: we're all grumpier. Even you get grumpy about things that
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised you're grumpy at. And then and that kind
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: of catches me off. Card But then I got to remember, well, you,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I myself get grumpy at things that Ashley doesn't think
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: I should be grumpy about. And and yet I do
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: get grumpy, and I think she gets grumpy with me.
• 52:30
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to call it mirror mirror even day last
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Soul thought it was mirror mirror.
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: I know, right, he read the book, clearly didn't watch
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: the movie.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: But magic mirror is what Disney ended up calling it
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: in Snow White, and the idea behind it is to
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: prove to you that I am the fairest of them all.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: And there are three different definitions for fair. As it
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: turns out, there is beauty that's not the one that
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: is attributed to me, right. There is pale of skin
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: that could be.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: Contributed, especially on YouTube it makes us popook so pale.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: But the one I'm referring to is just that version
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: of fair. I want to prove that I am the
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: fairest of them all when it comes to these some
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: of these types of conversations, especially when I have some
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: bold ass takes that not everybody can possibly agree with.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: But we have an article out from Ryan Davish here
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: this morning, Great job again by Ryan Divish, and he says,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: don't expect the Mariners to let go of Dan Wilson.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Part of that reason it was inferred is because of
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: his legendary status within the organization. Part of his reason.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Part of the reason is that the players just love
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: playing for him, and so they believe that they can
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: fix it under Dan's leadership, and so the organization does
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: not want to upset that apple cart. As you know,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: I have announced that I think Dan Wilson should go,
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: and I announced that the first day out of the
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: All Star break that was our show that Monday ended
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: up being a thing that week. And I certainly have
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: not seeing this team perform like I was wrong. They
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: certainly haven't stepped up and had their managers back if
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: they want him to lead them to greatness. All they've
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: done is played poorer in the second half of the season.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to stand by all of my arguments
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: and reasons for why I think Dan Wilson should not
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: be the manager of this team tonight and going forward
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: to try to get them out of these aduldrums and
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: give ourselves a chance of pulling off this comeback here
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: with the remaining forty five games of the season. But
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Magic Mirror is about you telling me why Dan Wilson
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: should stay. I want to be fair and I don't
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: want a big mountain of reasons. We have time to
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: rifle through a few of your correspondences by just giving
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: me a reason why Dan Wilson should stay. So I've
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: been asking for texts, I've been asking for YouTube responses,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: I've been asking for talkbacks all morning long for this
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: very segment. So Ashley, let's get to them.
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: All right, We're gonna start with the talkback.
• 56:58
  Speaker 8: Okay, Baseball's a game of in tangibles, like you can't
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: just go up to the plate and try extra hard,
• 57:04
  Speaker 8: and you know that's not necessarily going.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: To fix anything or work out.
• 57:07
  Speaker 8: But I see terminating Dan Wilson as just some intangible effect,
• 57:14
  Speaker 8: like maybe it galvanizes the team, maybe it has some change.
• 57:18
  Speaker 8: Isn't the constant really to Poto and kind of the
• 57:21
  Speaker 8: approach his offense has been terrible far before Dan Wilson ever, all.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Right, he ran out of time.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: But look, I like that argument very level, had a
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: very very sound argument, And I think there are two
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: things for me to react to in that You're right,
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: it is just an intangible You don't know what the
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: next manager, what kind of effect he could have on
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: this team, and maybe it'll be a grossly negative effect,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: maybe the team falls apart. But at this stage I
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: think that you have to make that desperate move to
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: shake things up. And maybe there is no reason behind
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: why the Philadelphia Filmies became instantly better the moment they
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: fired a really likable, successful manager and Rob Thompson, a
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: guy that saved them from Joe Girardi at one point
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: a few years ago and turned them into a winner.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: But this year, when they started the season and they
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: felt as if we have a playoff roster and we're
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: not anywhere close to playing that way, they made the
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: change early and it improved instantly. And Lombohold, here are
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Phillies right there in the playoffs, right there
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: in the playoff position, and with Christopher Sanchez, Zach Wheeler
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: and Jesus Lozardo, they're going to be very dangerous for
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers to try and take out the Boston Red
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Sox did the same thing. They got rid of Alex Korra.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: You could argue, well, isn't that just trying to change
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: an intangible effect? And yet it worked and they've got
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: the same analytics using the same analytics. They didn't change
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: out general managers, they didn't change out analytics teams, they
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: didn't change out their nerdoramas. They went with the same players,
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: the same organizational philosophy, and they changed the manager. And
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: maybe it is just an intangible thing that you really
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: can't know what kind of impact it's going to have,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: but they felt they were desperate and had to do
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: something to shake things up. I feel the Mariners are
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: in the exact same boat right now.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: And I can see the I mean we talked about
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: it earlier, the nervousness or the uncertainty of how the
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: team will react when it happens. Yeah, there's always that risk.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: I understand that. What would you say to that talk back?
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: Second part though, isn't the one constant Jerry Depoto.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Well my reaction to that is, I think Jerry Depoto
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: has made a lot of mistakes, and I think he,
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: as an executive, has learned from those mistakes and made
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: changes over the years to his own approach. The offensive
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: hitting approach I criticized for a great number of years,
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: as Ashley Knows, as Bucky Knows, as anders Hurst on
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: My Stove podcast knows.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: Get the hell out of the way.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: You don't know offense, and I felt he and Justin
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: were way too hands on with that. But at the
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: beginning of last season, and Jerry admitted this in a
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: press conference, he stepped away from it. I mean, certainly
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: he's got to say on how things are done, and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know how loud that say is.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: But when Kevin.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Seitzer and Edgar Martinez were put together, there was this
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: and they stated it like, I'm going to back off
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: of this. We're going to hand the offense over to
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: those two guys and the approach at the plate. Certainly,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: analytics still play a part in that. But if Jerry
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Depoto got fired tomorrow, they're going to replace him with
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: a guy that embraces analytics. Nobody's not going to do that,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: maybe not as much, but it's still going to be
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: part of the process. And this ties into what I
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: just said about the Red Sox and the Astros. They
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: didn't change their organizational philosophies. They didn't change midstream their
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: general manager, the guy making the decisions. They changed a
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: manager and a couple of coaches to shake things up
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: to get the player's attention. And maybe it was just
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: an intangible roll of the dice, but it worked. And
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: it's because they were both in desperate situations. The Red
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: Sox had the worst record in baseball at the time.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: They've got like a nine hundred winning percentage since that time.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: I would like that. I don't know why it works,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: but this goes all the way back to trader Jack
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: McKeon taking over the world champion Miami Marlins twenty five
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: years ago. Just an old grumpy fart and he rolled
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: in there, though an old grumpy fart, had the right
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: things to say to the group of players to get
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: them turned around, and they won the World Series for
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: goodness sake that year. So there's enough evidence that it
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: does work. And we can discuss Jerry in another edition
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: of Magic Mirror down the line. As a matter of fact,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: I look forward to it.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: But let's get back to Dan all right from the
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: two oh six what about roster construction. With cal, Julio
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: and Naylor struggling, there's no combination of hitters on this
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: team that could save this team from being dead last
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: in runs scored.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: That's not Dan's fault.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, how is that roster construction? I mean, you just
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: said it yourself. Josh Naylor, cal Raley, and Julio Rodriguez
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: aren't hitting. Take the three best hitters away from any
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: team and let's see how they perform. Take cam Andaro
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Diaz and name the third guy away from the Tampa
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Bay Rays and see how much they plummet, like roster
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: construction to me. To me, it's cheap. To me, it's
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: un This is about being the fairest of them all.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: To me, it is unfair to say at the beginning
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: of the year I believe in the roster and then
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: when individual players don't perform, then I'm going to say, well,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: this roster stinks, right, and maybe I'm wrong. I'm bullish
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: about this. I think the roster was fine coming into
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: this season. It had Vegas making us the favorite to
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: win the American League. It had national analysts everywhere saying
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: the Mariners should win the American League. It had local
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: people that have been critical of the Mariners over the years,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: saying the Mariners should win the American League. Roster construction,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: to me is was the roster set up to win
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: And that's where again we get into the Jerry thing.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm not saying it has nothing to do
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: that I personally like Jerry or Justin over Dan might
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: be the opposite is true, it is. I believed in
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: the roster when the season began, and I still think
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: it's a roster worthy of getting things done. Now, I'll
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: say this, I'll say this. They this team seems to
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: only have the ability to win one way, and that
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: is to hit home runs. It's the only way we
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: can runs. And maybe a lot of that does fall
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: on roster construction, But I would also say a lot
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: of that falls on Dan Wilson. Why don't we do
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: anything else but wait around for the three run homer. Yeah,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: And I have been very clear about this. I blame
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: the players the most. I don't blame Dan the most.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: I blame the players the most. Right, they're underperforming, they
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: are underperforming. But when it's a collective, when it's the
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: entire group, I'm gonna blame the manager and the coaches
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: more than I'm gonna blame the team that put the
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: roster together. When I believe in the roster. Maybe I'm wrong,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna be a hypocrite about it. I
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: believe in the roster. I don't think that the roster
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: is the problem. This roster should have been good enough
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: to run away with the American League West. Jim Bowden
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: just told this to us two weeks before the trading deadline.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: He said, the Mariners don't have to add anything before
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: the deadline, and they should still run away with the
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: American League West.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 6: He did.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: I heard that with my own two years. So I'm
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: not going to blame roster construction for the way that
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: this team underperformed this year. And I'm not solely blaming
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: it on Dan and the coaching staff. I'm blaming it
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: on the players underperforming. But who gets more held responsible
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: for a group of players underperforming? Is it the guy
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: that put them together or is it the guy that's
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: around them every day and his job is to get
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: that group of players to play their best.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: I would think it's that guy from the four two five.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: My one and only reason would to keep Dan would
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: be with the current roster, in future players and prospects.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: It would show that we will stick together the good
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: and the bad. Show that we commit a third manager
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: in three years. Would make it harder if we pretend
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: that the front office will spend to re sign or
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: have a free agent want to come here knowing we
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: just recycle if it's not working. Now, I'm not saying
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: I agree with or I disagree with firing Dan, but
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: that would be my one reason.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: To keep him continuity. Yes, tell it to the NBA, NHL.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they just they not care about coaches.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: They will plow it over.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: Yes. I don't necessarily buy that, as you might guess.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: This sort of to me goes to what the player
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: said in Ryan's article. We just really like him. Well,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: I don't want you to be friends with your manager.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: That doesn't impress me. I get that you like him.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Everybody in the organization likes him, and he's earned being
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: liked through the way that he conducts himself as a
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: human being. But your manager should not be your friend first,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: he should be your boss. And if you see him
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: as a friend instead of somebody whose job is to
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: get the most out of you, if you look to
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: him like man, and that's a guy that I would
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: help have, help me move. That's a guy I'm gonna
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: call if ever I need a drive home from the
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: bar and I've had one too many. That's a nice
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: attribute to have in your manager, but it's not what
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: I want you to say about your manager. What I
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: want you to say about your manager is that's the
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: guy that got the most out of me. It's just
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: like when we were in grade school and you didn't
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: want the teacher in the fifth grade that you heard
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: was tough, and then you ended up getting that teacher
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: in the fifth grade who was tough, and now you
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: look back on it, even though you were scared on
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: day number one of school that he was going to
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: be tough, and you're like, that's one of my favorite
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: teachers of all time. That's what a manager's gotta be.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Not your friend. Yeah, it's the guy that gets the
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: most out of your circle. The players on this roster
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: who this year we feel the most was gotten out
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: of them, three of them on the entire Foster Hancock
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: young hand zone for Randy, Yeah, even then, did you
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: get the most out of him? Why did we have
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: so many incidents of him being laxadaisical. Yeah, but often
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: been very good, very good. Yeah, all right.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: Else, We've gotten this from a couple of people, So
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: I feel this one is an important one to ask you. Okay,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: we get rid of Dan, who do we replace him with?
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: That would be my one. That's their one hesitation for
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: why they wouldn't want Dan fired, because who's the other option?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean in house, it's Maniacta. That's the obvious.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: He has managerial experience and he knows the team. I
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: don't believe in Maniacta. Again. Again, I like him a lot,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: but I don't I don't necessarily believe that's the right choice.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: Could you go.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: With someone out of what for this? At this point?
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: You could go Alex kra He's available out there. I mean,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: he's the guy they got rid of though in Boston
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: and have gone on a streak without him. He also
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: has astros ties, which might bother some people. There's Bruce
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Bochie types. There's some veterans out there that might be
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: interested in the job. And I have heard I've heard
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of people say, well, not a lot of people.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: A couple people say that nobody wants to manage for
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Jerry to Poto, even if around the league no one
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: likes Jerry to Poto and no one believes in Mariners ownership.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: There's not a manager out there that doesn't look at
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: this pitching staff and this young nucleus with Kate Anderson
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: and Ryan Sloan coming and Emerson and Young up the middle,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: and Arroyo and Montees on the way, and an entire
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: starting rotation under club control right now, which is one
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: of the best in baseball. Like Ben Johnson passed two
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: full head coaching cycles in the National Football League and
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: chose for the Chicago Bears, Why well, it certainly wasn't
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: for ownership. That might be the worst ownership group in
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: the National Football League, routinely panned and by people that
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: you know, and I'm not going to throw them under
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: the bus. People don't want to play for the mccaskeys
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: in Chicago. But the hottest offensive coordinator over a three
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: year span waited till he had the quarterback to play
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: for in Caleb Williams, and he went to the Chicago
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: Bears without hesitance.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I see.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Kevin Cash would manage here. We might have to trade
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: for him, and he embraces analytics. I just want to
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: warn you more so than Dan Wilson does, more so
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: than Jerry Depoto does. But that guy is fantastic. Steven Vote,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: I've heard will manage here. They want to manage here.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm doing in the offseason. That's who I'm
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: going at. But we're talking about whether or not he
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: should stay the manager now.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, yeah, And I think that that would be
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: a lot of people says is to get rid of
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: him and just have someone in house.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: And then there was See.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: The problem is this, there's a lot of people that
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: are still doing the Jerry thing.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: We'll get to the Jerry park everything.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: Oh you want this one?
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Well no, I'm saying, yeah, we'll get there.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: We'll do the Jerry one on this same thing.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: But as what I'm saying about Jerry making a dent
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: at all, I realized that there are a lot of
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: people that have had their pants on fire for Jerry
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: to Poto now for seven eight years. I mean I
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: even saw a tweet or a text this morning or
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: tweet this morning saying that we went through a ten
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: year rebuild. What the f are you talking about? It
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: was a two year rebuild were two years and you
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: went from competitive to rebuilding for two years. One of
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: those was a shortened year, and then had a winning
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: record by the third year, and we're a playoff team
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: by the fourth.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: What the hell are you talking about?
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: It seems like every year lasts for us.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: I think some people came in so hard on Jerry
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: that they have to hate Jerry. And you attach so
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: many things to Jerry, like how could you be angry
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: at Jerry because the PR staff has a Jimothy Knight?
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: I know, because that stuff doesn't make sense.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: Nobody can separate those things.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: I will say that the one thing we're seeing a
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: lot of is well, Jerry wants a yes man, so
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: he's only going to hire someone who's gonna agree with everything.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so glad this point came up. I'm so
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: glad this point, this point had to come up. Dan
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Wilson makes the lineup and Dan Wilson makes the end
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: game decisions. Does the front office influence him before every game? Yes,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: just like every front office in Major League Baseball does.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: There are no old school managers that don't that get
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: away without meeting with the Nerderama and the big stat
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: packet and they all have conversations. There's a meeting between
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: Pete Woodworth, cal Rawley, the starting pitcher, and Dan Wilson
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: before every single game, and that's information on high that
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: is coming down that they discuss. Every organization does this now.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: And then the other thing that I would say about this,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: if that really is just a yes man, First of all,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: Scott's service will punch in the face if he thought
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: you thought he was just a yes man for eight
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: years here. But if Dan Wilson really just took the
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: job because he wanted the job and he just says
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: whatever you say, Jerry, shame on Dan Wilson. Do you
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: think I think higher of Dan Wilson If I'm to
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: believe that rhetoric that he only does what Jerry tells
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: him to do, I think so much less of Dan Wilson,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: and I'm critical enough of him. But if that really
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: is true, that he just gets a speech before because
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: he's not sitting down there on a phone, he's not
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: sitting down there looking at his watch. There's no communication
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: in the game. So if he spends every game just well,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: this is what Jerry wants me to do, then I
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: don't think any higher of Dan Wilson. I think far
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: less of Dan. Dan the man be a man, But
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that's true. I think Jerry and Justin
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: are very influential on the decisions that are made on
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: a day to day basis. I don't argue that, and
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: maybe too much so still to this day. But I
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: also believe because I've been told by all three parties
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: and the rest of you are just making this up.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: You haven't asked Justin Hollander to his face. I've asked
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: him on the air and off the air, who makes
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: the lineup decisions? Who makes the in game decisions? And
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: he laughs and he says, the lineup is Dan's and
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: there is no way that we are discussing with him
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: in game decisions. He laughs about it. Now, if you
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: want to believe that he's lying to me, then go
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: ahead and do it. I know I've done one thing
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: more than any of you out there that are making
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: this suggestion. You've never asked Justin, Jerry or Dan this question.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: I have, So maybe they're lying to me and I'm naive,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: but I have asked it of the three pillars in
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: the organization, and they all tell me Dan makes the lineup.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: Dan's in game decisions all influenced on high by the
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: Nerderama led by Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollander. I am
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: not denying that they don't influence Dan's in game decisions,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: but once they've had their say before the game, it's
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: Dan's call for the rest of the game.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much clear I can make them.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: Oh that was clear? All right?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: Great stuff?
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah that was fun. I mean I had fun. I
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: liked it.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 5: I like it when our listeners participate too.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, and the more we
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: do it, the more I want to hear from you.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: We'll open up the phone lines in the future, and
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: I promise next week, because we're going to do it
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: again next week, I will make it all about Jerry.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: That's my promise. There goes.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: Since we couldn't have.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: As a discussion about Dan without bringing up Jerry and.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: I guess that makes sense.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it does because a lot of I mean, they
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: are very intertwined.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: All right. Coming up next, Mike McDonald his thoughts on
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: Tarry and Arnold. Are the Seahawks really interested in this guy?
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: It sounds like they are. Sports Radio ninety three point three.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: KJRFM really happy with Magic Mirror. I thought it was great.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, people are very excited for the Jerry segment next week.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: Oh we're gonna do Yeah, you might have to.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: Make it more than one segment next week. I'm just
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: warning you entire hour.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: There you go, We'll do a tire hour. There you go.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: Come up with a bunch of magic songs, a bunch
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: of mirror songs.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: You can do, Machick.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: You can do anything that you desire.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's true. Thanks America.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: You want to know why? Tell me why, Chuck, Because
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: you're the one that can put out the fire.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: With your sister Golden hair. Just gonna go through a
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: different America.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, let's just jump to another one.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Ashley a Chuck with you. And look, Greg
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: Bell and I clearly don't agree about baseball. But one
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: thing we do agree about is this Terryan Arnold thing.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: And not that you know, we're entire I mean, I'm
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: not gonna speak on bathhem. Not that there's not a
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: scenario out there that maybe some of the information is
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: grossly misrepresented. Maybe maybe the authorities have no case. Maybe
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: Terry and Arnold is a victim of mistaken identity like
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: apparently the victims were. I'm not closing myself off to
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: any kind of possibility out there of the future, and
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: I'm also not closing myself off the possibility that it's
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: still not within John Schneider to say talent comes first.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: I got a chance to get a first round young
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: cornerback for league minimum salary, and I think our PR
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: team can spin it. You forgave me for Frank Clark,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: You'll forgive me for Terry and Arnold. I think there's
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: probably that little bit of a rascal in John Schneider
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: that just might not be able to resist if he
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: gets a chance to get a talent like Terry and
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: Arnold for league minimum. Where Greg and I agree is
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: it just doesn't feel like a Mike McDonald thing. It
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: doesn't feel like something Mike McDonald would go along with.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: I've seen John do it. But since Mike McDonald came
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: into town the last couple of years, man, it just
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: feels like character has been a much played a much
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: bigger role in who the Seahawks bring into this organization,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: be it draft pick, free agent, trade acquisition, and so
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: it is surprising that they're kicking the tires when this
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: story is so sensational and so potentially wrought with just disaster.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: But Mike McDonald is in, he's got his hand in
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: the middle on this. Here. He was yesterday talking about
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: Terry and Arnold after practice.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 9: Well, it's enough right now to we had him in
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 9: for a great visit, a great tryout. It's not you know,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 9: it's a situation where there's there's some there's other things
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 9: that are surrounding it as well. We're aware of that,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 9: but uh, we're we're working through the situation right now.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 9: You know, there's but uh, there's a great visit. I
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 9: really I really enjoyed medium and uh I think I
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 9: think he enjoyed being here.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: So we'll see where it goes a little bit. Evaluate
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: situations like that where there's a stuff going on and
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: Sat I told.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 6: You you worked really hard to build and just make
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 6: sure you cantet glass.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 9: Well, we're going to do our due diligence. And there's
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 9: a lot of people in Terryon's corner that that we
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 9: respect on in terms of the type of guy is.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 9: So we're gonna work through all that and I think
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 9: we I trust our people to make the decision for us,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 9: and we also think this is a great place to
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 9: come work too, and that if it can be the
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 9: best verson themselves if given the opportunity.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: So kind of works both ways. Mike McDonald yesterday whatever,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: Mike kind of backed something you can't help.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: But Okay, I guess, I guess I'm all the ears.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not. You're not not at all. Doesn't sound like
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan tech guy, No, and it's not.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to convict him before he's
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: been found guilty of this situation. But that is a
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: lot of drama that I don't think you need. You're
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: you're You've already got people gunning for you this year.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: You are the defending Super Bowl champions. You don't need
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: to add something that's going to be a distraction. And
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: on top of that, before this legal issue, we have
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: heard that he's not the best teammate. What have we
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: done with people who weren't the best teammates or who
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: caused issues or outbursts on the field? Reek Wolla no
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: longer here, Dk Metcalf no longer here. He doesn't tolerate it.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: So I don't know why this guy would be a fit.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: I can't figure it.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: Out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: I mean the Lions walked away fast.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if anyone would have had the reason to like
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: as much as they had invested to say, Okay, can
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: we let the process play itself out? Yes?
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: And no one would blame them for that.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: Right I wouldn't.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, can we let the process play itself out and
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: then we'll make the best decision for the organization. They
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: cut him like immediately, and I don't think they would
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: have done that if they believed his story. And my
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: guess is they don't believe his story because they know
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: his character, right, So I mean I'm reading a lot
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: into that. No, but yeah, I'm supposed to be the
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: fairest of them all and that feels a little unfair
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: right there.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: But that is my read of the situation.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, Dan Campbell's a football bite off knee caps.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're losing our grip on our status as
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl contender. They would be I think the last
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: team that will want to give up on a third year,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: first round pick cornerback, especially when their secondary has gotten
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: devastated each of the last two years and probably kept
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: them from getting to the Bowl.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: And here are the Lions. As soon as they heard
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: the story.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: The next day you are out, and then all of
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: the other stories about his character started to come out
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, and that's what you have to think,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: right in that situation.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 5: If they if he is a.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: Team leader, if he is the glue in the locker room,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: if he is all of these things that are important
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: to their team's success, they wouldn't have been so quick
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: to dismiss him. But you start hearing those stories after,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: and I think you think to yourself, Okay, so take
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: away the legal stuff. Do we want a guy on
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: our team that would be dropped so quickly? And now
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: we're hearing all these things that he's not that great
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: in the locker room? Why would we want that regardless
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: of his legal issues.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: Huh. I think you and Greg and I are all
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: on the same page. It just doesn't feel Mike mcdonaldy,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: and I want you as an organization to be as
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: Mike mcdonaldy as possible. Yes, please, it works.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's done well for.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: Us, But he is at least he is at least
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: even if he doesn't even if he doesn't, isn't sure
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: he likes it. He's smart enough to say other people
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: in the organization, this guy might end up on our
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: team depends on what we hear how this thing unfolds,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: And I'm certainly not going to say we don't have
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: room in our organization for a guy like this, So
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: that seems to be the approach that Mike's taking. Also
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: would like to point out Hawk blogger, you were being
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: very nosy. Uh and baby, I think you should get
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: fined for crying in the middle of Mike McDonald's.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: Press and stuff.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: We don't let Bob Condota do that. If he started
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: crying in the middle of a press conference, Why would
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: we let that baby.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: It's a very valid question. You're just being fair, You're
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: asking fair questions exactly.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: Bob Candota is a professional. That's why he's been on
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: the beat for so long. That's why he's so good
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: at his job. He just started crying in the middle
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: of Mike McDonald's answers. How long would he have his job?
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: Think about that, baby?
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: Not very long time.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: Next time you want to ruin a piece of audio,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: you better want to check yourself, all right, Coming on
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: next a preview of tonight series at Yankee Stadium.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM. All right,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: great morning to you.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday to you all, Ashley, Ryan Chuck Powell with
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: you as we roll into our fourth and final hour
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: here on this Tuesday.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: But it is one of our favorite hours, and it's because.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Ryan Heay now joins his former Mariner just in town
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: home run derbying this past weekend, and he's got a
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: lot of problems for us to solve here in regards
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: to Mariners Baseball. So we're leaning pretty heavily on you,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: big guy.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 10: I thought you provide the problems, I provide the solutions.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, You're gonna have to solve it all.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 10: That's what's happening now.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna create a lot of problems and then you
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: solve them all, and then we can all feel better
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: about things.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 10: We're going no notes today, no stats. We're just gonna
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 10: go straight the eye test and we're just gonna hash
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 10: this out Chuck old step old fashion right, all right.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: Well, I can't wait to dive into it, but I
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: do want to ask, was it fair to bring a
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: pitching change in the middle of your home run derby
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: round on Friday and have to face Jane Paston just
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: because Jay Bunior likes showmanship? Define fair I'll answer that no,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: was he has he even pitched batting practice ever before
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: in his life?
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 10: Did you get the pitches you were looking for? You know, Chuck,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 10: I'll answer it like this. There was a moment during
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 10: that day on Friday, when I landed in Seattle. I
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 10: had a choice. I had a choice where I can
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 10: make the Homer Derby about myself and my ego to win,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 10: which I believe I did for a lot of my
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 10: life as a professional athlete, or I could choose to
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 10: see the bigger picture of what this was actually about.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 10: And fortunately for me, I saw that bigger picture during
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 10: the game because I got an opportunity to experience what
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 10: t Mobile Park feels like as a fan for the
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 10: first time ever. I got to sit in the stands,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 10: I had got a walk around the concourse full of Mariners,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 10: fands that love this organization, this city so much. I
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 10: had a chance to experience that for the first time ever.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 10: From that perspective, and then all of a sudden hit me,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 10: this was never about me. Whether it's James pack Cent
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 10: or Felix Hernandez or Randy Johnson throwing me batting practice,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 10: this wasn't about me. This was about entertainment. This was
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 10: about connection, This was about enjoying the moment. And I
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 10: did all of those things. I connected with superstars, I
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 10: connected with fans, and I felt like the Mariner was
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 10: put on a tremendous show. And I promise you, I
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 10: promise you, at some point, if I'm able to do
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 10: that home in Derby again, I will bring my own
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 10: my own BP pitcher.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, if I put out an over under a fourteen
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: and a half for year round against Danny Farquhar, do
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: we get over that or do we get under under?
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 10: Danny Farquhark throws like power cutters low and away from
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 10: Righty's and my Cameron, Mike Cameron came back and was like, Dude,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 10: that dude's throwing cutters low and away. I can't get
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 10: that ball in the air. He hit a couple like
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 10: line drives in the right center gap and I was like,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 10: that's what you made a career man, that's why you're
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 10: here this weekend off of the home runs.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: All right, So I bring your home picture the next
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: time and we'll see a different result.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: I don't have any doubt about that.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: I don't because I you know, I was expecting you
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: to dominate, and I think that you would under the
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: right circumstances.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 10: That's it went fast, like I gets sped up on
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 10: you quick in there, like in the two minute time frame,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 10: my legs were shot by about ninety seconds in. I
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 10: felt like I felt like there's a lot of things
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 10: that I just wasn't prepared for in that regard where
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 10: you just kind of had to swing as hard as
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 10: a can and hope you can hit it, kind of
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 10: like when I played Najor League Baseball. To be honest, man,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 10: swing hard in case you hit it.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this, there have been actual home run
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: Derbys where all stars in the prime of their career
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: that have take batting practice every day didn't hit a
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: single one, and we had a picture hit three on
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: Friday night.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 10: So I Smith put on a show, put.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: On a great show, including yourself, so fat well done,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: Well done. All right, let's talk about the Mariners. Man.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: You're a you're a player on this team and you
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: can't score runs, and it's no longer early and you're
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: seven under five hundred, and the Astros and Rangers are
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: playing really good baseball now, so it's not going to
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: be easy to track them down. What's what were the
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: conversations Sunday? What's the plane ride to New York? Like, uh, yesterday,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: Where would the mind of a Mariner player be based
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: on current circumstances.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 10: That's a long flight across the country from Seattle to
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 10: New York. And usually the plane is where like the
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 10: most fun has had by the players, because especially you
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 10: go into an away city with an off day the
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 10: next day, it's a chance to play cards, you gamble
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 10: a little bit, you have some drinks, you're able to
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 10: kind of banter with the group. Uh, kind of take
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 10: a load off a little bit and enjoy the moment.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 10: My guess is that's what happened, because they're all in
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 10: this together, the good and the bad. So I hope
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 10: that that provided some connection. I remember there were seasons
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 10: when I even wasn't with the Mariners on at the a's,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 10: Like we would have cross country flights, and there were
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 10: veterans would step up and make sure that we all
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 10: had fun on there and connected because the wins and
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 10: losses can be frustrating, and it's a long season and
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 10: these are the dog days of summer, like we're getting
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 10: to the middle of August here, creeping up to it
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 10: last six weeks of regular season, you've already played so
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 10: much baseball. Unfortunately, your numbers at this point of the
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 10: season are pretty much set. You can increase some of
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 10: the power production, but most of your numbers are set
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 10: for the year. Your focus shifts to all about the team,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 10: everything we can do to win here, and then all
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 10: of a sudden, everything you do which isn't good enough.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 10: A team like the Rays comes in in the red hot.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 10: And if you saw the Rays game on Monday night
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 10: against the Sacramento Athletics, like they were down six to
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 10: two and they came back and scored eight or nine
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 10: runs in an inning, Like that's a team that's just
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 10: built different right now. The Mariners can be that they
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 10: haven't been that, but they can't be that. It's just
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 10: a lot of things, and it's a lot of pressure
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 10: on the pitching staff, which has been there all year,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 10: but the offensive production it's a broken record at this point.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 10: They're having a really hard time stringing innings together. They're
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 10: having a really hard time leaving the yard ruinners on base,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 10: and it's just it's one of those things where you're like,
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 10: there's got to be an answer. That's clear, but it's
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 10: it's not. Unfortunately, what's wrong?
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: I mean you've did this for a living. I mean
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: you tried to solve this impossible riddle for years of
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: your life and you know how difficult it is. And
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: yet I think you're with me. I think the pieces
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: are there to have a successful offense. But for four
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: and a half months, it's been terrible. So what's wrong?
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: As you lay your eyes on it? You're there in
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: the ballpark, You've called games. If you could, if you
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: were asked, Hey, Ryan, go in there and add something
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: to this conversation, what would you contribute to this to
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: get it going around?
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 10: There's not much more than I could contribute that wasn't
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 10: presented this weekend with the amount of you know, Mariner's
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 10: royalty that was walking through those halls, those clubhouses, on
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 10: the field all week and long, like, there was plenty
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 10: of energy provided for that team, and I felt like
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 10: there was moments when it was it showed up on
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 10: the field, but it just wasn't everyone. What my diagnosis
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 10: is is there's a lot of individuals on this team
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 10: trying to solve their own problems, and not enough people
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 10: that are taking teams for the taking of bats for
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 10: the team, and it's hard to take it back for
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 10: the team when you don't feel like yourself as a hitter,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 10: because you essentially feel lost, you don't know who you are,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 10: and you step in the box, your approaches all over
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 10: the place. You don't have the confidence in your swing
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 10: to get to the pitches you normally can. You're taking
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 10: selfish at bats unintentionally, Chuck, unintentionally, because you're trying to
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 10: figure your own problems out instead of the ability of, like,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 10: what does this team need to do today to beat
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 10: this picture on the mound. It doesn't seem to be
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 10: that one through nine unison togetherness on a daily basis
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 10: where it's like, hey, guys, this is what we need
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 10: to do to execute and win today. And I'm sure
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 10: those conversations happen on a daily basis, Chuck, Yeah, in
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 10: the batting cage and the meetings they have on a
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 10: daily basis and offense, like those conversations happen. But there's
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 10: a lot of players that have underperformed this season, which
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 10: means they're stuck inside of like that Mason jar and
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 10: they completely forgot what makes them special as a player,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 10: and they're trying to chase that former version of themselves,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 10: and they have no idea how to be the best
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 10: version right here, right now.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: That's a great answer when it comes to being able
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: to adjust on the fly. I mean they're obviously their
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: identity is we at home runs and we pitch well.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 10: Sure, but.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: To have any other ability to score runs doesn't seem
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: to exist, and it doesn't seem like the manager presses
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: those buttons to try to make you score runs. Differently,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: maybe we don't have the skill set as a roster.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but it does feel
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: ryan like if we don't hit two or three home
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: runs or don't hit that three run homer, there's really
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: no chance to score runs. Can you adjust on the fly?
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: Can you fix that? Can you figure out mid season
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: how to be more productive when you're not going deep?
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 10: My optimism wants to say yes, But my realism of
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 10: being a player is it's really hard. It's a tall order,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 10: and to have the coaching staff or the manager step
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 10: in and start making decisions for your bats or with
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 10: your bats for you as a major leaguer now brings
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 10: in different emotions that you're trying to suppress as you're
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 10: standing in the batter's box, meaning your ego, your personal career,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 10: your personal stats, the next contract. You're trying to play
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 10: for a roster spot with this team or another team
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 10: next year. There's so many factors of being a W
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 10: two employee in the Major League Baseball, but it's operating
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 10: essentially as an independent contractor. You're essentially a ten ninety
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 10: nine that has a W two over you, but there's
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 10: nothing guaranteed. There's some guys that have contracts, but a
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 10: lot of them don't. So at that point, you're trying
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 10: to make sure you're going to be valuable enough for
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 10: a team or for this team next year, so you
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 10: have a job while also trying to make the best
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 10: out of this season. And I think the guys that
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 10: are contracted long term this on this season and this team,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 10: they've underperformed and they know that and they feel that pressure,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 10: and unfortunately that pressure ends up growing internally for those
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 10: superstars that are underperforming and gets dispersed to others around them.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 10: I feel like I got to pick up cal Rawly
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 10: Slack and I can't hit sixty home runs, So how
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 10: am I gonna ever live up to that?
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: Ryan Heay is with us former Mariner part of a
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: Mariner's TV crew this year and joins us every Tuesday
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: at nine o'clock to talk some Mariner baseball. Give me
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: the number one reason why it is the right decision
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: to stick with Dan Wilson here down the stretch.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 10: He understands how hard it is, and I feel like
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 10: at this point of the season to be really tough
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 10: to make a change, a managerial change. And then number
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 10: one reason being is whoever replaces him, you're not going
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 10: to find the guy, have the opportunity to vet the
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 10: guy to know that he's the long term solution for
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 10: this club. So you essentially would just be making the
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 10: move to make the move to allow a voice already
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 10: internal to have more of a say, And if that
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 10: was the truth, then that voice would already be speaking
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 10: or would already be impacting or changing things. In my opinion,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 10: if they were going to make that decision, it would
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 10: have happened sooner. I think this is Dan Wilson's team
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 10: for the rest of the season. What they do after
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 10: the season is completely up to them. And the sad
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 10: part for me though, is I've seen people, good, good
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 10: people lose jobs over underperforming and when the expectations are
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 10: this high, whether they deserve that blame or not. You
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 10: see it happen because it's easier to replace one person
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 10: that is an entire roster.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: We'll make you a little uncomfortable. Then give me the
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: thing about Dan Wilson that you feel he should be
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: better at that that's been a problem this upcoming year.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: I don't want you to just come across as you know, hey,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: we got to stick with Dan former player, player allegiance.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: Give me something about Dan that you feel has been
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: an issue if anything this up this past season.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 10: It's a hard question, Chuck. I know it's a really
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 10: hard question. I know what my answer is. How I
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 10: say it matters a lot.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 10: I think we all see the postgame interviews, right, Yeah,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 10: and they tend to blend together the pretty similar.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: Pretty much the same thing, every game.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 10: Same thing. So my hope, because I don't know this
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 10: for certain, I'm not in those those rooms and what
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 10: the conversations are with the players, I hope that there
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 10: is more matter of fact in truth spoken behind closed doors,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 10: and I hope that there's more accountability to what is
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 10: actually true and happening behind closed doors. It may be
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 10: and it may not be working. I don't know that,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 10: but I do hope that there is at least the
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 10: truth being spoken from manager to player or coaches to
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 10: players about what's happening right now throughout the course of
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 10: the season. And I hope that he's not relaying the
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 10: same message that he is to the media that he
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 10: is to the team.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, I agree. I just said that a
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: little bit earlier in the show, said something very very
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: very similar to that, because I mean, players want their
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: manager to have their backs. They don't want them to
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: ever throw them under the bus in the media. And
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: I'll say Dan Wilson he's one hundred percent of that.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, two and a half years of him being
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: the manager of this team, I don't think he's ever
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: come even close to throwing a player under the bus.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: And I know that goes a long way with players, but.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 10: That was getting praised all weekend long by Mariner's legends,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 10: like his ability to have a player's back. No idea
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 10: how far that goes with the player manager relationship.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: All right, so you were around the team. I'm sure
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: you had a few conversations. I'm not sure how deeply
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: you probed, but do you get the sense that they
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: are on the side of we're gonna fix this, or
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: do you think some doubt has crept into this roster.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 10: I think there's belief, no doubt. I think there's plenty
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 10: of belief, and I think more than anything, there's trust
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 10: amongst player to player in this clubhouse, mostly because they've
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 10: they've proven themselves. There's not really an unproven player on
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 10: this roster. There are young players that haven't had years
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 10: and years of success Majoric level, but at Schunk glimpses
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 10: of why they're there and why they deserve to be there.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 10: I honestly believe that they're waiting for that moment for
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 10: it to click, and they've felt that moment this season,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 10: not for a long stretch, but for enough of a
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 10: stretch where it's like, man, when that version of this
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 10: team shows up, we can beat anybody. But there's also
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 10: been a lot of weekends where they play against the
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 10: upper echelon team in the AL East, the AL Central,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 10: some of these teams in middle of the pack where
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 10: they just don't show up at all, and it's frustrating.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 10: But I do sense that there's a lot of belief
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 10: from player to player in this clubhouse, and they do.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 10: They do believe that it can come together. And I
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 10: think there's time. At what points is there not enough time?
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 10: I think this is a lot to do with how
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 10: the al has performed as a whole the season, the
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 10: fact that there even is an opportunity, with how the
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 10: wild Card race looks like it's gonna come down to
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 10: the wire, like no matter what happens over this next
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 10: nine game plus road trip, like it's gonna come down
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 10: to the wire, and I think it's gonna be really entertaining.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 10: And how the Mariners respond the last couple of weeks
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 10: of the season, last month of the season is going
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 10: to determine a lot of that.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium fun. Intimidating What is.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: It like to hit there as a major league hitter
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: or is it just the same as any other park
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: and you block it up.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 10: No, there's an extra pep in your step when you
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 10: play Yankee Sadium. My first time ever was in twenty seventeen.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 10: It was my first full season, but I played seventy
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 10: five plus games a year prior. And Ed Sprague, who's
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 10: a legend World Series champion of the Blue Jays, he
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 10: was working with the A's at the time, and I
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 10: saw him in Oakland the weekend after we played yank
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 10: A Sad and he goes. Was that your first time
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 10: playing in New York? I was like, yeah, he goes Man,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 10: you had a different pep in your step playing there.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 10: It's just like you just feel like you're floating the
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 10: entire time. Like you get to go out early. All
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 10: the memorials they can have in the you know, the
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 10: slabs they have in center field to go see the
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 10: names that have walked through. Not that stadium particular, but
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 10: that organization.
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  Speaker 2: It just it just feels.
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  Speaker 10: Different and it provides a lot of extra energy, especially
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  Speaker 10: this time of the year.
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  Speaker 2: You pissed them off. They call you games.
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  Speaker 10: Oh they said some things that the radio. I don't
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  Speaker 10: think you can get to your bleet button fast enough
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  Speaker 10: if I was able to repeat them, But like it was,
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  Speaker 10: I love that stuff, man. I loved when the fans
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  Speaker 10: would get personal and chirp you with me. It was
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  Speaker 10: always New York and Boston the right there on top
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  Speaker 10: of you, and they had some choice words. New York though,
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  Speaker 10: Like they showed up in BP and they'd be chirping
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  Speaker 10: at you in batting tracks. I'm like guys, the game's
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  Speaker 10: that for two hours? Can I like it? At least
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  Speaker 10: get get loose and locked in a little bit before
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  Speaker 10: you start, you know, telling me that my mother is
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  Speaker 10: that you know what, like, just relax a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Ed Sprague, I mean, did you guys have similar games?
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  Speaker 2: If I remember? Is that fair to say that you
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  Speaker 2: and Edstriin?
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  Speaker 10: I was nowhere near the player that Ed Sprague was
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  Speaker 10: nowhere near. But he was a tremendous He was a
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  Speaker 10: tremendous mentor to me and taught me like layers of
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  Speaker 10: this game that were so deep in the onion that
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  Speaker 10: I hadn't gotten to yet mentally, and he helped me unlock.
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  Speaker 10: And he's a big reason why my twenty sixteen you
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  Speaker 10: know season happened the way that it did. I had
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  Speaker 10: such a chip on my shoulder. I was mad at
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  Speaker 10: the world, and he helped me organize that frustration to
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  Speaker 10: provide some purpose to what my pregame work like, my
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  Speaker 10: postgame reflection looked like. And I absolutely took my game
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  Speaker 10: to another level that year.
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  Speaker 6: See.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, even Ryan gets grumpy. I had a conversation with
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  Speaker 2: her earlier. I think that everybody's just grumpy, grumpier than
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  Speaker 2: what they used to be. What's something that makes let's
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  Speaker 2: close it out with this. What's something all outside of sports,
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  Speaker 2: outside of baseball, that makes Ryan Healey grumpy? The grocery
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  Speaker 2: store traffic, whatever the case may be. Give me something
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  Speaker 2: that makes you grumpy.
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  Speaker 10: It's not often other people. I've gotten pretty good at
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  Speaker 10: like letting people just do what they got to do.
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  Speaker 10: If if someone cuts me off on the on my
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  Speaker 10: way to work, like they value their time, Yeah, the
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  Speaker 10: valuable time. They're more Russian, I am.
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  Speaker 4: That's okay, But what about if they cut you off
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  Speaker 4: and then they flip you off for it, Like that's.
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  Speaker 10: On them even then, even though it's like, you know what,
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  Speaker 10: they must be going some through, going through something harder
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  Speaker 10: than I am right now.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, it's just I think, so.
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  Speaker 10: Listen, they might be, But even if they are, can
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  Speaker 10: I change them? I don't have control over them, So
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  Speaker 10: I gotta let it go. But what makes me really
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 10: really grumpy? Chock cat really grumpy? Missing my morning routine?
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  Speaker 10: I had a day last week. It was my daughter's
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  Speaker 10: second day of school. My son we were taking him
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  Speaker 10: to his school for like the introduction, and my forgot
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  Speaker 10: to set my alarm completely on me. So I woke
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  Speaker 10: up at seven am. My wife walks in and goes, hey,
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  Speaker 10: do you mean to sleep in? I was like, oh no,
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  Speaker 10: So now I wake up just reacting to a four
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  Speaker 10: to two year old and my wife who is a
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 10: little emotional about her baby boy going to school. So
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  Speaker 10: now I'm I'm absorbing and reacting to everyone's emotions instead
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 10: of waking up early to regulate mine. And that made
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  Speaker 10: me really grumpy. And it wasn't until about noon that
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  Speaker 10: day when I finally realized, oh, this is all my fault. Cool,
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  Speaker 10: now I gotta fix it.
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  Speaker 2: Good process, Good process there, all right, man, Great to
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  Speaker 2: have you on as always, and we'll talk to you
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  Speaker 2: again next week.
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  Speaker 10: See you guys, have some fun.
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  Speaker 2: The fantastic never grumpy Ryan Heay joining us right here
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  Speaker 2: have it in front of me for I thought I
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  Speaker 2: thought that was it, but I didn't want to say it.
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  Speaker 2: And then it not be it. I think you wanted
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: to test me. Yeah, I just kind of got caught there.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, do I know, like, have you ever done
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: that with a person's name? Like really struggle with like
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: the Kirsten, Kristen, Christina, you know, that whole family. So
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: I'll see a Kristin, I'm like, oh man, it was
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: is it Kristin or Kirsten?
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  Speaker 1: And I struggle with.
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  Speaker 2: That a lot. So I just end up not even
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: saying the name.
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  Speaker 5: That's fair, just be like, hey, you knew that or
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  Speaker 5: is that just me?
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  Speaker 2: I get that, and then I'm hoping somebody else mentions
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: it so then I can pick it up the mare
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: for the rest of the night. But I always struggle
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: with that same thing with Griffin and Griffith. I always
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: struggle with those two. All right, Coming up next, some
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