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Chalk Talk on Patreon: DeFilippo Talks Working With Young QBs, Past Experience With Scot Loeffler, Training Camp · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The following is a shortened version of our Chalk Talk
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  Speaker 2: Blow every One and welcome again. It's Chalk Jocket's John D. Flippo,
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  the Super Bowl winning Eagles quarterbacks coach from twenty seventeen.
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  You went through the ring ceremony, yougles, just had it
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  last Friday. The ring is ridiculous. What do you remember
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  about it?
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  Speaker 3: I just remember how first class it was.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, the Eagles, mister Lorie blew my
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  I was in Minnesota at the time.
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  Speaker 3: I remind your audience.
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  Speaker 4: I left after that year ago, be the office corner
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  of the Vikings, and you know, they blew my wife
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  and I back, and and uh, it was just a
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  whole It was just a first class event all the
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  way and exactly how you would expect the Eagles to
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  to handle such a cool event. And it was really special.
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  Obviously it was the first one in franchise history.
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  Speaker 2: So John, as we look at it and going back,
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  we'll start with how otz are planned for quarterbacks coaches
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  and offense coordinators. So you've been both. What could you
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  tell us about developing a quarterback working with young quarterbacks?
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  But let's start with Carson Wentz. What was your job
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  and how did you prepare him in those OTAs?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, just to rewind, I mean Carson was
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  not slated to play. I mean we were going to
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  sit him beside behind Sam, and Sam had had a
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  really good spring, he really good spring, and we were
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  really excited for him to be our starter.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, my, my, my main job, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Was to make sure Carson, you know, stayed up to
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  speed with everything, and you know, obviously he'd had the
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  benefit of being in OTAs in that spring. But you know,
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  once you get the training camp, it's that's when the
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  I hate to use this verbot, but that's when the
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  bolts start flying a little bit. And sure, that's where
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  it's you know, it really matters, and you got to
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  get you're starting to get ready for a game and
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  who's going to make the team and all those things.
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  Speaker 3: So there's so many.
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  Speaker 4: More factors involved in training camp than there is in
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  OTA's which is a little bit more relaxed, I want
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  to say relaxed, but just a different feel. So we
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  want to make sure Carson was up to speed, you know,
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  with everything and little things like you know, staying after
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  and throwing the whole practice script of the reps he
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  didn't get, and and just making sure when he was
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  ready to go, he would be ready to go. Obviously
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  that that journey started a little sooner than later than
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  we all thought.
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  Speaker 2: How do you handle a veteran quarterback comparably to a
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  rookie like wentz in OTAs you know, it's.
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  Speaker 4: It's unique because when you have a rookie like Carson
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  is learning, I mean, you got to start from the
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  ground up with him and spend a little bit more
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  extra time where a guy like a Sam Bradford or
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  Carson Palmer, another veteran I worked with, like that. You
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  gotta find ways to challenge those guys' minds every day
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  when they show up so they don't think that they're
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  wasting time. Now, it was a little bit different for
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  Sam that year because he was learning a new offense
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  as well. So, but if you're if you're if it
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  was going into year three or year four in the
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  same offense with a veteran quarterback, you gotta find ways
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  to challenge them. And what I mean by that is, hey,
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  maybe we taking the odd overload pressure day, or we're
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  gonna talk double a's today and and and how we're
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  gonna handle that throughout the course of the year. And
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  that way, you have some things that are I don't
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  want nothing's ever set in stone until the clock hit zero,
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  but the play a game. But different things that ideas
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  that you might use during the season where it's a
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  little bit slower pace and it's not a you know,
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  a pace where you're just trying to fit everything in
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  before the next week. So you pick a topic of
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  the day, and like I said, it might be, hey,
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  this is that we're gonna be quarters coverage. What are
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  our best quarters beaters? Or we're best quarter quarter half beaters.
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  Let's talk cover two today. How are we gonna attack
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  cover two? Like and so that's how you try to
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  challenge a veteran where you know it's a rookie that
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  I've had a lot of them. It's it's literally they're
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  just trying to you know, one of the cadence.
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  Speaker 2: The install people bring up the install what does that?
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  How does that work.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know you try to.
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  Speaker 4: My thing is is it starts really for the rookies
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  right after the draft because you have your your your
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  rookie mini camp right then and and that's where they
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  get a dabble of the installation. And you know, teams
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  handle rookie minnie camp differently. Some bring in a bunch
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  of players and have real practice, Others just want to
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  get the individual down.
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  Speaker 3: Me.
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  Speaker 4: You know, personally, if I had a choice, I would
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  want real practice, especially if you have a rookie quarterback.
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  I mean you want him to break the huddle and
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  call the play in the huddle and extra play and
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  those things. And but teams handle that differently. And uh,
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  you know ours with Carson started right away, I mean
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  in rookie mini camp and we had I thought he
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  had a really good rookie mini camp and and it.
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  Speaker 3: Was just that first holding block.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get to you as an offensive coordinator, So how
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  does it differ between you being a quarterback coach over
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  the years an offensive coordinator in terms of game planning
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  and managing coaches? Like, is it way different than being
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  quarterbacks coach?
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  Speaker 3: Not even the same animal.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's you're responsible instead of being responsible
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  for three or four guys, you're responsible for thirty. You know,
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  you know and so, and you know you're you're setting
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  the tone for the whole offensive staff, and you know
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  you're you're relaying the head coach's message to your side
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  of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Question twenty fifteen, you were your your first time as
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  a coordinator. Okay, you know this is in. People followed
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  your career know that you did a brilliant job. It
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  helped get you an interview with the footy nine ers
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  as head coaching candidate. Right, you're going through this and
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  a guy that you interviewed, I do want to mention here.
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  I think Scott Leffler's the new Eagles quarterbacks coaches that.
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  Speaker 3: Cord I interviewed Scott. Scott is at the time.
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  Speaker 4: I'm ninety nine percent positive he was the offensive coordinator
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  Virginia Tech.
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  Speaker 3: Okay at the time, and.
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  Speaker 4: I had known Scott through the Great Vine and had
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  heard Scott speak a few times, and you know, was
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  really impressed with him, Like really, I thought he was
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  an impressive, really impressive guy. And so we interviewed Scott.
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  And Scott's from Cleveland. He's from Cleveland, So.
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  Speaker 3: This has been like coming home for him.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, grew up a Browns fan, the
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  whole deal, right, He freaking interviewed like a champ.
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  Speaker 3: He was once.
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  Speaker 2: He's a little bit older than Brady, I know. I
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  think they were around there at the same time.
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  Speaker 3: He was ready his back up at Michigan, right for
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  roommates and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, so you said he's very impressive. Yeah,
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  and you're known to coach Hart. That was what made
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  you one of the best in the league for many
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  years a quarterback coaching, because you you you're on your guys.
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  You cheat your big teacher, do you know, because you
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  I know you it was between what him and Kevin
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  O'Connell and you.
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  Speaker 3: Had Connel, right, Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 2: You obviously was down to those two guys.
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  Speaker 3: You like both, do you because you didn't coach with
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  lefflerd before?
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  Speaker 2: So how did you know how he coaches?
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  Speaker 3: I just been watching him.
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  Speaker 4: I'd heardhim speaking the clinic and watching him and listening
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  to him, and I knew that, you know, he was
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  the kind of guy that I thought would be really
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  good for our staff.
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  Speaker 3: And I just always had a ton of respect for Scott.
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  Speaker 2: Coach one of the things I love about training campus.
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  I watched coaches coach. I've seen you in Napa, California.
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  I've seen you coach in Many, Minnesota and that like
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  I don't know what you call it's like a campus, right,
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  was it an Egan or is it? I saw you
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  in Jacksonville. So you've been a coordinator, you know a
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  bunch of times obviously. So now we're in training camp, right,
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  So as a coordinator when you come in right, and
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  and with Cleveland specifically because you came in new you
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  were with the Raiders before that is the quarterbacks coach Minnesota.
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  You came in new because you were the Eagles quarterbacks
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  coach Jacksonville. You came in new because you were with
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  Minnesota the year before. Do you look at what so
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  you go and do with tape study?
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  Speaker 3: Right? Do you go back and watch the tape? Yeah
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  you do? Okay, Yeah, you also want you also want
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  to form your own opinions? Sure? Right?
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  Speaker 2: Do you look at their blocking schemes and what kind
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  of personnel and personal to.
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  Speaker 4: Me, like when you're going in brand new like that,
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  you look more personnel. What does this guy do well? Right?
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  Speaker 3: What do we do well? What were we deficient, you know,
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  and that's that's how you know what to do.
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  Speaker 2: So so as a offensive coordinator, what's the challenge like
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  to manage coaches? Because you were saying in another our
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  previous show here as a quarterbacks coach, you know, you
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  just work with four guys. Now you have to work
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  with ten to twelve position coaches and all these players.
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  What was your twenty fifteen let's talk about that as
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  a young coach, how did did you did you did
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  you know? Did you get mentored? Do you know how
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  to do this from other coaches over the years?
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  Speaker 3: Do you do it? I feel?
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  Speaker 4: And how you've experienced it? You know, it's it's it's
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  challenging at times, it really is. I mean, because you
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  know there's you got to find out, just like what
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  makes players tick, what makes coaches tick? And you know
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  there's certain coaches that come with an idea and if
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  you don't use it, there's they get a little butt hurt.
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  And there's some guys that if you don't use it
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  r id then they're like cool on to the next one,
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  and it's like they understand the maybe the usually the
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  guys that have been in that chair before, I understand
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  that you know, you know, I can use every one
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  of my ideas and that's okay. Sure, I'm not going
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  to tell you what stop I was at. But the
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  head coach says, hey, I think we're struggling a little.
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  Speaker 3: Bit in running back pass protection.
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  Speaker 4: And I said, I said, I agree with you, coach,
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  I said, I one d percent agree. I said, he goes,
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  can we do that drill we did the other day
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  an individual with the backs where they're squaring up the
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  linebackers and blocking them in the hole. I said absolutely.
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  So I go in into office staff meeting and I said, hey,
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  you know, can we do that to the run back coach?
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  Speaker 3: Can we do that again?
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  Speaker 4: And you know he's like, well, you know told me
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  what to do. I'm like, my guys, I'm like, okay,
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  just so you guys know, I'm not you can't and
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  as the coordinator, you can't be like, well, the head
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  coach told me that, you know, like you got to
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  protect the headman.
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  Speaker 3: Too, Like you know what I'm saying. Like, so there's
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  a there's a balancing act. You know that unless you've
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  been in that chair, you just don't no happens.
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  Speaker 2: Are there times where you're in a practice no matter
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  where you were. Maybe maybe we'll talk a little bit
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  about the Eagles right here in twenty seventeen, Go, holy bleep,
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  we might be honto something. These practices are so damn good,
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  Like we've really taken another level. We ever see that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 4: Knew I thought we'd be pretty good. You know, we
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  all thought pretty good. It was year two for Carson.
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  Thrown him in there, and he'd made some mistakes and
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  played good at times and struggled at times. And at sixteen,
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  right since sixteen, and you could make a case that
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  if Carson doesn't play his rookie year, he doesn't have
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  the season he had before he got hurt.
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  Speaker 3: Here two, I want to put all my chips on
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  the table and bet on that.
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  Speaker 2: Right, What do you think of joint practices?
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  Speaker 3: I love him? Why effort?
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  Speaker 4: It's you see it, it's there's there's a.
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  Speaker 3: Different couple, a lot of reasons. Okay, I'll go down
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  the list here. Sure.
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  Speaker 4: Number one as simple as this. You get to see
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  another color jersey in front of you, and some guys,
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  especially young some young guys, they freak out a little bit, man,
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  when they see another color jersey in front of them,
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  and you want to see if they forget every single
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  one of their techniques and fundamentals and all this. Number two,
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  if we were facing if like in Philly with Jim Schwartz,
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  we were a four down team. Me personally, like if
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  I would have gone against a three four team in
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  joint practice.
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  Speaker 3: Now you can work all your schemes against a different
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  fun you know what I'm saying. Sure, and it just
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  I love it. It's long.
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  Speaker 4: But here's the thing. The best joint practice I've ever
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  been a part of was when we was when I
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  was in Philly and we joint practiced with Miami. Adam
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  Gase was the head coach of the Dolphins and obviously
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  Coach Peterson was the head coach of the Eagles, and
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  the head coaches had a pact. If you fought in practice,
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  you got thrown out of practice and you didn't get
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  to play in the game.
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  Speaker 3: So we practiced against them on Wednesday, Thursday, we were
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  off Friday and.
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  Speaker 4: Scrimmaged and play the game on them I think at
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  home on Saturday, and so there was no fighting.
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  Speaker 3: There was. It was.
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  Speaker 4: Two days of the most productive practices that I've ever
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  been a part of.
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  Speaker 3: And I've seen some absolute meles.